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Hemming and Hawing
by The Hemmings
Pro trail runners Tabor and Eli Hemming pull back the curtain on life in the mountains: racing highs, training lows, and everything wildly unexpected in between. Honest, unfiltered, and sometimes completely off track, this is the laid-back trail running podcast you'll look forward to every week.
Episodes
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Ep 33. Running Vs. Hiking Uphills, Speed Block for 50ks, Gravel Racing
Happy Sunday and welcome to episode 33! This week, we dive into some training discussions around running versus hiking uphills, where to put/prioritize speed in a 50k training block and then share a little of what we've been up to post UTMB. Enjoy! Contact Us: Coaching Email:...
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Ep. 32 Why We Sh*t the Bed At UTMB Week and More
We sit down together this week and recap our races at UTMB week, what went right, what went wrong and how we are going to move forward after bad races. Thanks for listening! Contact Us: Coaching Email: [email protected] Instagrams: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming Youtube: @TheHemmingsRun
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Ep. 31 HR Caps in Races, How to Structure Training Camps in a Build, Pre-UTMB Week Thoughts
For Episode 31, we dive into our thoughts on heart rate in races, how we recommend utilizing training camps in a race build and also talk about our lead ups into UTMB week. Enjoy and thanks for listening. Contact Us: Coaching Email: [email protected] Instagrams: @eli_hemming…
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Ep. 30 How to Mentally Prepare For Races, Fueling for the Regular Runner, Sierre-Zinal Recap
For this week's episode, we discuss how we mentally prepare for races and what we do when they get hard, fueling recommendations for the regular racers/runners, and then do a recap on our time race and crewing Sierre-Zinal! Contact Us: Coaching Email: [email protected] Instagrams:...
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Ep. 29 NeverSummer 60k, How Fast Cows Run, Races vs. Races
For this episode, we are back after a week away and dive into what we've been up to lately! Big training, fun racing and lots of nonsense in between! Saddle up and enjoy the ride! Contact Us: Coaching Email: [email protected] Instagrams: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming Youtube: @TheHemmingsRun
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Ep. 28 Eli's CCC Training and How We Are Differing, HardRock Talk...
In this week's episode, we talk about the decision behind Eli signing up for CCC, how our training is looking different, raw Hard Rock 100 reactions and more!
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Ep. 27 Western States Recap, Next Races, Ranch Work
For this week's episode, we recap our time out at Western States, how Broken Arrow shaped the next races on our race calendar and then dive into listener questions about coffee, ranch work, and more! Hope you enjoy!
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Ep. 26 Broken Arrow Debrief and Not Quitting the Sport
Coming at you from Olympic Valley, CA for our first traveling podcast! This week we dive into our races/experiences at Broken Arrow, discussing our goals, tactics, fueling and more. Have a great week!
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Ep 25. GoPro Games, Pre-Race Nerves, Baby Cows and More!
Coming to you with episode 25 this week! We sit down and debrief our races at GoPro Mountain Games in Vail CO, talk about how we deal with pre-race nerves and then talk baby cows because why not! Enjoy! Contact Us: Coaching email: [email protected] Instagrams: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming...
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Ep 24. RothRock Recap, How We Stay Motivated, New Training Partner...
We are back! This week, we sit down and recap our races at RothRock by UTMB, answer a listener question about how we get/stay motivated and then share exciting news about getting another runner in our town. Hope you enjoy! Contact Us: coaching email: [email protected] instagrams:...
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Ep 23. Why Racing More Is Better, Eli's Diagnosis, and unhinged cow facts
In our lastest episode, we sit down together and discuss what we've been up to, answers to Eli's medical mysteries, and then go full steam into why we think racing more is better...plus a possible cow fact at the end to keep you coming back. Enjoy! Contact Us: Coaching Email:...
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Ep 22. Desert Rats Recap, Protein Shakes Mid Ultra, Athlete On A Budget
On episode 22, we go into how Desert Rats races went and why we've been on a little podcast hiatus. We then talk about calving season and life on the ranch...rounding out answering some listerner questions. Contact Us: Coaching Email: [email protected] Instagram: @eli_hemming…
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Ep. 21 How to Train for 50ks, Strength Training for Trail Running, And Other Coaching Opinions
In this episode, we tackle more listener questions that pertain to training for 50k races, how we implement strength training into our athlete's and our training, and then just continue to talk through additional coaching opinions. Have a hoppy Easter! Kinesis Strength App We Use Kinesis Discount...
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Ep 19..or 20: Training Zones, Preparing for Technical Races Without Technical Terrain, National Western Stockshow...
This week we dive into questions that focus on finding your training zones, how to prepare for technical races when you don't have the terrain available, and talk about calving, national western stockshow and more! Contact us: Coaching Email: [email protected] Instagram: @eli_hemming...
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Ep. 18 How To Balance Cycling and Running in Training, Our Week Of Training...
For episode 18, we discuss our week of training and then answer "Barn Talk" questions around cycling and running! Thanks for listening and have a great week! Contact Us: Email: [email protected] Instagrams: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming YouTube: @TheHemmingsRun
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Ep. 17 Volume Vs. Intensity, Are Rest Days Necessary, Ranch Shenanigans
On this episode, we switch it up a bit and divide more into the training/coaching side of our lives. We discuss our opinions on the importance and distribution of training intensity and volume, tackle the topic of rest days in athlete's schedule, and as always have to throw in some ranch talk to...
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Ep. 16 Health Updates, USATF Controversy , Kilian's Triple...
On this episode, we talk about our health updates and how we are individually healing from Black Canyon, the controversial weekend at USATF 1/2 marathon championships, Kilian Jornet's race calendar announcement and a whole lot of other tangents mixed in! Thanks for listening! Contact Us: Email:...
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What really happened at Black Canyon 100k
Join along as we discuss the slight dumpster fire of a race at the Black Canyon 100k. We talk about what went wrong, what went right, what we plan on doing about it, and a lot of random things in between. Contact us: Instagram: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming Email: [email protected] Youtube:...
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Ep. 14 Unfiltered Opinions on the Boulder Boys/Ben Dhiman Beef, Favorite Workouts and Questions Answered about Bicarb, Ketones...
On this episode, we jump into the chat about the lastest comments made about trail races and why we don't agree, share what our favorite workouts are and why, and lastly answer some listener questions on our use of ketones, bicarb and other supplements. Enjoy the banter! Contact us: Instagram:...
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Ep. 13 Why Hardrock Shouldn't Change, Black Canyon Training Talk, Cow Questions
We sit down together for episode 13 and discuss our thoughts on Hardrock lottery/entry hypotheticals, how training for the upcoming Black Canyon 100k is going and lastly we answer some listener questions about our favorite...cows! Enjoy! Contact us: Instagram: @eli_hemming @tabor_hemming Email:...
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Ep. 12 Joshua Tree Traverse Recap, Bicarb Bar and Other Musings
In this week's espisode, we do a recap of our Joshua Tree Traverse adventure and how we are using it in our Black Canyon 100k prep. Then we dive into bicarb and the bar that just came out plus a lot of other musings along the way. Female Shoe Reviewers: @womensgearindex Contact Us: Email:...
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Ep. 11 2025 Training Reflections and Changes Going Forward, Wildlife Encounters, and Shoe Rotation
We are back! After taking a little sabbatical over the Christmas week, we are here to chat all things 2025. We dive into our 2026 training and how we overhauled it after learning some big lessons from our approach in 2025. Then we answer some listener questions about wildlife encounters and…
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Ep 10. Special Guest Andrew Wise (Trail Runner/Park Ranger/Ski Patroller)
This week we sit down with our close friend and training partner Andrew Wise. In this espisode we discuss how he balances being a National Park Ranger and Ski Patroller while also training to podium at high profile trail races. We, additionally, get his perspective on Michelino Sunseri's pardon....
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Ep. 9 Is Altitude Training Dead, Kilian's Fat Consumption During WSER, Renaming Ultras
This week we sit down and discuss whether or not we think training at altitude is no longer the hype for endurance athletes, how Kilian's fat consumption possiblity helped his durability in Western States, and why we think ultras should get some updated names. Plus throwing in a listerner…
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Ep. 8 Dales Picks, How We Train in the Winter, TROY Picks
We sit down this week to discuss the announcement of Dales picks for HardRock 100, the ways the we train in the winter and how that differs from our summer training, and finally our TROY picks for the year and who we put on our list. Contact us at: Instagram: @tabor_hemming @eli_hemming Email:...
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Ep. 7 Turkey Trot Recap, North American Final (we should have one), and Cow Questions Answered
Join us as we talk about our turkey trot over the Thanksgiving holiday, why the TNF 50 miler concept/race should make a return (looking at you Big Alta) and then taking some time to answer some bovine related questions! Trail Waves Substack Jeff Colt's Substack Contact Us…
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Ep. 6: Chris Myers -- Our First Guest Episode
This week on the podcast, we welcome our first ever guest, Chris Myers. We dive into Chris's Western States success, if he is going back again in 2026, and a lot more! Contact us! Email: [email protected] Instagram: @Tabor_Hemming @Eli_Hemming Youtube: www.youtube.com/@TheHemmingsrun
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Ep. 5 World Records, Trump Pardons Trail Runner, Enhanced Games, and Elite Runner Privileges
On Epsiode 5 of Hemming and Hawing, we sit down together and discuss the records broken at Tunnel Hill over the weekend, share out thoughts on Trump's pardon of elite trail runner in our community, opinions on the enhanced games and more. Plus we answer a listener question about race entries and...
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Ep 4. Weekend Down in Boulder, Zach Bitter Going Hi-Carb, and What Our Training Looks Like
This week we bring you a weekend recap of our time down in Boulder, CO, answer a listener question about Zach Bitter (famously known for being low-carb) going hi-carb, and then we round it out discussing what are training looks like right now and how it has evolved. Contact us! Email:...
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Ep 3. Javelina Recap, CTS vs. Evoke Training Methodologies, Olympic Marathoner Coming to the Trails
Join us this week as we do a run down of Javelina Hundred results and how close our predictions were, our unfiltered thoughts on CTS Coach Cliff Pittman's article on muscluar endurance, Olympic Marathoner Molly Seidel's official annoucment of her transition to trail and then just some extra...
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Javelina Predictions, Kilian's 14er Legitmacy Debate, Our Next Race and More!
Join us this week as we dive into our predictions for the Javelina Jundred, unpack Kilian's wild 14er mission (and why he might not have tagged every summit in Colorado), and chat about Courtney's marathon season — including what we think she has planned for CIM (is she eyeing that OTQ time?). We...
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We started a podcast! + End of the season recap
Welcome to the very first episode of Hemming and Hawing! In this episode, Tabor and Eli (the Hemmings) do their best not to get too sidetracked as they share why they decided to start a podcast. They also catch up on where they've been and what they've been up to during their break from social...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Pro trail runners Tabor and Eli Hemming pull back the curtain on life in the mountains: racing highs, training lows, and everything wildly unexpected in between. Honest, unfiltered, and sometimes completely off track, this is the laid-back trail running podcast you'll look forward to every week.
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