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It's About Payroll

Brian Escobar and Walter William Duncan III are the hosts of It’s About Payroll. Collectively, they have over 4 decades of experience in the payroll industry. This podcast was created with the intent of sharing their knowledge and attracting new talent to the payroll industry.ItsAboutPayroll.ioYou can access their LinkedIn profiles.https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/escobarbrianhttps://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/william-duncan-477051187

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    True Payroll Crime Stories: Shady Business in the Sunshine State

    What happens when the person processing your payroll is the fraudster? In this episode of It's About Payroll, Brian and Walt break down a jaw-dropping real case out of Miami — a payroll manager at an orthopedic practice who allegedly stole over $1.5 million by increasing her own salary, issuing herself unauthorized bonuses as large as $25K, and racking up $400K+ in personal charges on the company credit card. Oh, and it went undetected for more than two years. This isn't just a crime story. It's a masterclass in what happens when internal controls don't exist. In this episode: 🔍 How she allegedly set herself up as the account owner — giving herself God-mode access 🚨 The control failures that made $1.5M disappear without anyone noticing 📋 A NEW segment: Payroll Crime Prevention Scenarios (multiple choice — test yourself!) 💡 Brian's Payroll Fitness Tip: How to build a payroll dashboard that catches anomalies before they become felonies ✅ Lessons for employers, small business owners, and payroll service providers The real takeaway: No honest payroll professional should be placed in a system where their work is never independently reviewed. Trust is not a control. 🎓 Interested in leveling up your payroll career? Check out our Certified Payroll Technician (CPT) course — cohort 1 is already underway! 📲 Subscribe, like, share, and tell a friend to tell a friend. 💬 Got a topic or guest you want us to cover? Drop it in the comments. Links: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/Bcx9MFYjZE0 https://local12.com/news/nation-world/payroll-manager-stole-million-millions-doctors-office-doctor-back-neck-orthopedic-authorized-unauthorized-paymaster-administrative-access-discovered-arrest-fraud-steal-stealing-poor-miami

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    AI Is Coming for Payroll, but Not How You Think

    In Episode 207, Brian Escobar and Walt Duncan examine one of the biggest questions facing the payroll profession: Is artificial intelligence an adversary, an ally, or simply the newest tool in the payroll toolbox? The conversation explores how AI could reshape payroll departments by answering employee questions, detecting anomalies, researching compliance requirements, supporting tax-notice processing, and automating routine work. Brian and Walt agree that AI is unlikely to eliminate payroll professionals completely, but it will reduce certain processing and data-entry roles while increasing the value of strategic leaders who can interpret information, investigate trends, and connect payroll results to the business. They also emphasize that AI cannot own compliance liability. Payroll professionals must verify AI-generated information using federal, state, and local government sources rather than presenting “AI said so” as support. The episode also examines payroll fraud controls, post-approval payroll changes, direct deposit, daily pay, unlimited PTO, and where payroll should sit within an organization. Listeners will gain a practical understanding of how to use AI responsibly while preparing for a future in which payroll professionals operate more like pilots managing increasingly automated systems.

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    Jim O'Connor's Playbook for Fixing America's Broken Benefits System

    In this explosive episode of It's About Payroll, we sit down with Jim O'Connor, President & Founder of Premier Health USA, to expose the hidden truths behind America's healthcare benefits crisis — and what employers, employees, and payroll professionals can do RIGHT NOW to fight back. 💥 What you'll learn in this episode: ✅ Why America's benefits system gets a D (and what it would take to earn an A) ✅ The "Insurance Hamster Wheel" trapping employers with the Big Four carriers ✅ How level funded & partially self-insured plans can get your money BACK at the end of the year ✅ The #1 mistake employers make when selecting benefits (hint: they never ask their employees) ✅ Why the paycheck is the most powerful benefits communication tool you're not using ✅ How payroll and benefits teams can team up for a home run ✅ What employee benefits will look like by 2030 ✅ Jim's surprising take on what employees STILL want — same as they did 40 years ago 💡 Whether you're a payroll professional, HR leader, small business owner, or benefits consultant — this episode will change how you think about healthcare, compensation strategy, and the future of work. 🔗 Connect with Jim O'Connor & Premier Health USA: 🌐 Website: www.premierhealth-usa.com 📧 Email: [email protected] 🌐LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joconnorpremierhealthusa/ 📲 Enjoyed this episode? Do us a favor: 👍 LIKE this video 🔔 SUBSCRIBE & hit the bell so you never miss an episode 📤 SHARE with a payroll pro, HR leader, or business owner who needs to hear this https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll, itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/RkVPNtuyAbg 💬 Drop your thoughts in the COMMENTS — what grade would YOU give America's benefits system? 🎙️ It's About Payroll — the podcast where payroll professionals, business leaders, and HR innovators come together to make sense of the workforce landscape. Quote of the Day 💬 "Every meaningful breakthrough in life begins with a long season of unnoticed work." — Robin Sharma #employeebenefits #payroll #healthinsurance #hrstrategy #smallbusiness #LevelFundedPlans #healthcarecosts #payrollpodcast #BenefitsStrategy #humanresources #workplacebenefits #JimOConnor #PremierHealthUSA #ItsAboutPayroll #openenrollment #affordablecareact #employeeretention #hrleadership #businessgrowth #healthcarebenefits

  4. 212

    Payroll: The Past, Present & Future

    Is payroll still just a back-office function? Not anymore. In this episode, Walt and Brian break down how payroll has transformed from a purely administrative role into a strategic, compliance-driven, employee-experience powerhouse — and where it's headed next. 🔑 What We Cover: How payroll evolved from processing checks to influencing company strategy The real story behind payroll cutoffs (and why we need to stop using the term loosely) Earned wage access: perk or expectation? Is biweekly pay becoming obsolete? AI in payroll — error detection, anomaly flags, and what AI still can't replace The payroll "offensive lineman" analogy that hits different Lightning round: Payroll hot takes — will paper checks disappear? Should payroll have a C-suite seat? 💡 Key Takeaways: Payroll professionals are increasingly being pulled into executive-level conversations around compliance, data governance, and employee experience Nearly 80% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck — pay speed is now a strategic priority AI will enhance payroll, but human oversight and compliance expertise remain irreplaceable Bad data = bad results, no matter how smart the AI 📚 Mentioned in This Episode: Andy Valentine (previous episode) Max van der Glees Bussink & "The Payroll Pivot" by Nick Day Celery (AI payroll error detection), Paycom, iSolve, Career Learning, Nerd Outfitters (Troy) CPT (Certified Payroll Technician) Course — first cohort launching June 1st! & more! 🎓 CPT Course Now Open! Learn to process payroll inside a real payroll system before you ever get a job. Cohort 1 starts June 1st. On-demand version coming soon. Free Payroll Nerd T-shirt or hoodie included! 📖 Get the Book: Digital version on sale for just $2.99! https://www.amazon.com/-/es/About-Payroll-Your-Blueprint-Start/dp/B0GPK85YYM itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/rSFw18ZZqQo https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll 🎙️ It's About Payroll is the podcast for payroll professionals at every stage — from first job to C-suite conversations. Subscribe, share, and tell a friend to tell a friend. #Payroll #PayrollProfessional #HumanResources #EarnedWageAccess #AIinPayroll #PayrollTech #FinancialWellness #PayrollCertification #HRTech #ItsAboutPayroll #PayrollNerd #CPT #PayrollCompliance #FutureOfWork #PayrollLeadership

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    What Every Payroll Leader Must Know About Global Payments

    In this episode of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt sit down with Andy Valentine, Key Account Director at Ebury, to talk about the often-overlooked side of payroll: making sure people actually receive their money. Andy explains that payroll accuracy is only half the battle. Once gross-to-net is calculated, companies still have to manage payment timing, banking data, foreign exchange, local payment rails, compliance checks, and global banking relationships. The conversation covers why global payments fail, including incorrect beneficiary data, correspondent banking delays, country-specific payment requirements, and anti-money laundering compliance reviews. Andy also explains the importance of penny testing, payroll calendars, finance approvals, and working backward from payday to avoid missed payments. Listeners will also hear about FX risk, dormant cash sitting in local accounts, payroll leakage, stablecoin, AI, fraud risks, and the growing need for payroll, finance, and treasury to work as one team. The big takeaway: payroll is not complete until employees are actually paid.

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    Season 16 in Review

    Brian and Walt are back with a (much-anticipated) Season 16 review! In this episode, the hosts reflect on what made this season groundbreaking — from game-changing guests to major milestones for the Payroll Universe brand. In this episode: Word of the season: "Groundbreaking" vs. "Impactful" — and why both fit The biggest surprise: just how many payroll-adjacent businesses are shaping the industry The episode that changed everything: Trent from CotaPay and the death of payroll cutoff times Melissa Walker (Sounder Benefits) and how employers can actually save money on benefits Brian Smith (Top to Bottom Solutions) and the myth that benefits only cost you money Behind the scenes: what goes into prepping each season that listeners never see How the podcast has personally changed both hosts Book updates: It's About Payroll has a new cover and formatting, and Walt's Bruised But Not Broken is a must-read The Certified Payroll Technician (CPT) course launch on iSolved This or That: Hip-Hop Edition 🎤 Resources mentioned: It's About Payroll (book) – digital copy on sale for $2.99 Bruised But Not Broken by Walt CotaPay | Sounder Benefits | Top to Bottom Solutions | Payroll Like a Boss Certified Payroll Technician (CPT) course – payrolluniverse.com 🔔 Subscribe, like, and share with a payroll pro who needs this! https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/kkZ1a4uSx1g #itsaboutpayroll #payrollpodcast #payrollprofessional #season16 #PayrollUniverse #cpt #payrolltips #HRPayroll #smallbusiness #PayrollNerd

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    The Payroll Career Arc: Entry Level to Executive — What No One Tells You

    🔥 Is your payroll career stuck on autopilot? In this episode of It's About Payroll, Brian and Walt break down the real payroll career arc — from entry-level grind to strategic leadership — and the stage nobody talks about: the waiting period. Whether you're just starting out, feeling stagnant, or ready to level up, this episode is your roadmap. In this episode, we cover: ✅ The 4 stages of the payroll career journey ✅ Entry-level mistakes that hold payroll pros back ✅ How to move from "task-heavy" to strategic payroll leadership ✅ The dangerous waiting period — and how to survive it ✅ Why more money doesn't always mean less stress at the top ✅ The difference between being a payroll manager vs. a payroll LEADER ✅ AI layoffs in 2026: What 100,000+ tech job cuts mean for payroll pros ✅ Why 53% of employees would leave over ONE payroll mistake ✅ "I Should Have Known Better" — payroll war stories you'll relate to 💡 Key Insight: Payroll accuracy isn't just an operational issue — it's a retention strategy. One mistake can trigger turnover. 🎓 New Course dropping soon! Learn payroll inside a live payroll system. Perfect for career changers and new grads. 🔔 Subscribe for weekly payroll industry insights, career tips, and real talk from payroll professionals who've been in the trenches. 👍 Like | 💬 Comment | 📤 Share with a payroll pro who needs to hear this https://youtu.be/oTALfUt0KVo itsaboutpayroll.io #Payroll #PayrollCareers #HumanResources #HR #PayrollManager #CareerGrowth #PayrollProfessional #AILayoffs #PayrollTips #ItIsAboutPayroll #PayrollLeadership #CareerDevelopment #WorkplaceStrategy

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    Payroll Like a Boss: The Movement Begins

    In Episode 204 of It’s About Payroll, Brian welcomes two powerhouse voices in payroll leadership: John Bernatovicz, founder of Willory, author, keynote speaker, podcast host, and HR/payroll leader, and Tammy Gillenwater, CPP, senior consultant at Willory, speaker, and advocate for the payroll profession. Together, John and Tammy discuss their upcoming book, Payroll Like a Boss, scheduled for release on April 28, 2026, during Global Payroll Week. The conversation explores how payroll professionals often feel invisible, why payroll must be seen as a strategic business function, and how leaders can develop payroll teams beyond gross-to-net processing and tax compliance. Tammy shares her journey of “falling into payroll” and later realizing it was a true career, while John explains how the “Like a Boss” concept grew from HR leadership into a payroll movement. Listeners will gain encouragement, practical perspective, and a renewed understanding of payroll’s role in business strategy, workforce planning, compliance, technology, and organizational impact.

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    Why Are So Many Payroll Pros Open to Work?

    In Episode 202 of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt unpack a growing trend they are seeing across the profession: more HR and payroll professionals publicly sharing that they are open to work. They connect that observation to a softer 2026 labor market, slower hiring, longer job searches, and the pressure companies are feeling to stay lean. The conversation explores how payroll teams are being asked to do more with fewer people, why some senior professionals may be more vulnerable in tighter markets, and how automation is changing payroll roles without eliminating the work itself. The episode also dives into what makes payroll professionals more marketable today, including education, certifications, multi-state compliance knowledge, and a willingness to learn how AI can support the job. Brian and Walt also share the thinking behind PayQuest, their app designed to reduce spreadsheet chaos, improve accountability, and create cleaner audit trails for payroll-related payment requests. Listeners will walk away with perspective on the payroll job market, the future of the profession, and practical ideas for staying relevant in a changing environment.

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    All Roads Lead to Payroll: 201 Episodes and a Book Later

    It's About Payroll – Episode 201 | Book Release, Payroll Myths & Economic Uncertainty 🎙️ We hit 201 episodes AND dropped a book — and we're not slowing down! In this milestone episode, Brian and Walt celebrate the release of It's About Payroll, share insider tips for self-publishing on Amazon KDP (including why you should buy your own ISBN numbers), and dive deep into what payroll really means for employees, companies, and the economy. 📌 In This Episode: 📚 Book release update + KDP self-publishing tips (ISBN numbers explained) 💸 Financial fitness: How to avoid subscription traps and sneaky renewal charges 🧾 Busting the biggest payroll misconceptions ("You must be good with numbers!") 🏈 Why payroll pros are the safeties of your organization 🌍 How economic uncertainty, inflation, and rising fuel costs hit payroll teams first ⚖️ The big debate: Technical accuracy vs. human communication — which matters more? 🏢 Compliance function vs. strategic leadership — where does payroll belong? 💡 Whether you're a seasoned payroll professional, an HR leader, or just curious about what payroll actually involves — this episode is packed with real talk, industry insights, and lessons learned from 200+ episodes in the game. 🔗 Get the Book: It's About Payroll — available now on Amazon 📖 Also check out Walt's book: Bruised But Not Broken Links: https://www.itsaboutpayroll.io/payrolluniversemedia https://youtu.be/T-dTJm2Nvic https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll itsaboutpayroll.io 🔔 Subscribe for weekly episodes on payroll, HR, and financial wellness 👍 Like this video if you found it valuable 💬 Comment below: Do you think payroll should report to Finance or HR? #Payroll #PayrollPodcast #HRProfessionals #PayrollTips #FinancialWellness #ItsAboutPayroll #KDPPublishing #EconomicUncertainty #PayrollCompliance #HumanResources #Podcast #CareerAdvice #PayrollLife #SmallBusiness #Entrepreneurship

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    Episode 200 Just Changed the Future of Payroll!

    In Episode 200 of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Will celebrate a major milestone while sharing several big announcements tied to the future of Payroll Universe. The conversation centers on the recent launch of their book, which they describe as an empowering introduction to payroll careers for new grads, career pivoters, and even seasoned professionals looking for renewed perspective. They also discuss feedback from payroll leader Tasia Walker, who praised the book’s practical content, case studies, and potential to become a meaningful contribution to payroll education. The episode also introduces PayQuest, an app designed to reduce spreadsheet chaos, improve workflow accountability, and streamline fragmented payroll request processes. On top of that, they preview Payla the Panda’s growing role as a lighthearted mascot and educational game character, built to make payroll learning more engaging. Finally, they unveil the upcoming CPT, or Certified Payroll Technician program, a six-week introductory course created to help people break into payroll faster and address the industry’s need for new talent.

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    $80K Payroll Theft: How a New Jersey City Employee Got Caught (+ Our Book Launch!)

    🎙️ It's About Payroll Episode 199: True Payroll Crime Story & Book Announcement 📚 Big news! We announce our new book "It's About Payroll: Your Blueprint to Start, Grow and Lead from Entry Level to Leadership" – created to change the narrative that people just "fall into" payroll. This is a career path worth choosing intentionally! In This Episode: ✅ Book announcement & why the payroll industry needs career resources ✅ True payroll crime story: NJ clerk sentenced to 3 years for $80K timesheet fraud ✅ Key payroll control lessons: spreadsheet risks, segregation of duties, and audit discipline ✅ Why payroll leadership matters more than ever ✅ Inflation impact: $100K today = $60K in 2006 purchasing power ✅ Fun rapid-fire questions: movies, food, gaming & more Quotes of the Episode: "On the other side of impossible is greatness." – Brian "Faith and fear both demand you to believe in something you cannot see. You choose." – Bob Proctor 🔗 Important Links: 📖 Podcast Page: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll 🌐 Main Website: https://www.itsaboutpayroll.io 📱 Payroll Universe Media: https://www.itsaboutpayroll.io/payrolluniversemedia 📱 YouTube Link: https://youtu.be/oydrqnefC6E 💬 Got payroll questions or topics? Drop them in the comments! 👍 Like | 🔔 Subscribe | 📢 Share with someone exploring career options! ItsAboutPayroll #PayrollCareer #payrollleadership #BookAnnouncement #payrollpodcast #careerdevelopment #books #reading #career

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    Belonging Isn’t Soft, It’s Measurable

    In Episode 198 of It’s About Payroll, Brian Escobar and Walt Duncan III welcome Christopher Bylone, founder of Innovation Unbiased and host of I Know I Belong When, for a practical conversation on pay equity, belonging, and the role data plays in both. Christopher explains that pay equity is often misunderstood as only a men-versus-women issue, when in reality it must also account for race, ethnicity, disability, tenure, job level, and equivalent work. He breaks down concepts like pay transparency, the “unexplained gender pay gap,” and why companies can create inequity through new hires, promotions, and poor compensation practices. The conversation also expands beyond compensation into culture. Christopher argues that belonging can and should be measured through attrition, engagement, promotion patterns, and employee trust. One of the biggest takeaways: organizations should stop relying only on exit interviews and begin doing stay interviews regularly. For payroll, HR, and business leaders, this episode connects data, employee experience, and accountability in a way that is practical, human, and immediately actionable.

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    Hayley Paterson: Why Payroll Is Your Secret Profit Generator

    Join us for an incredible conversation with Hayley Paterson, founder of The Payroll Guide and author of "The Value of Payroll"! Hayley shares her mission to transform how businesses view payroll—from a mundane transaction to a strategic business asset. In this episode, we dive deep into: ✅ Hayley's journey from accidentally falling into payroll to becoming a leading voice in the industry ✅ The Three Ps of Payroll: Process, People, and Profit—and why they matter ✅ Real payroll crime stories and lessons learned from embezzlement cases ✅ Why payroll deserves a seat at the leadership table ✅ How to shift from seeing payroll as a cost to viewing it as an investment ✅ Practical systems and habits to prevent payroll chaos ✅ Advice for new payroll professionals on avoiding perfectionism while maintaining excellence Hayley brings both boots-on-the-ground experience and big-picture leadership insights that every payroll professional and business owner needs to hear. Whether you're new to payroll or a seasoned pro, this episode is packed with wisdom, practical frameworks, and inspiration. 📖 Get Hayley's book: "The Value of Payroll" https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-value-of-payroll-hayley-paterson/1147355300 https://www.amazon.com/Value-Payroll-Turning-biggest-asset/dp/1068447605 🔗 Connect with Hayley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayleypaterson/ #Payroll #PayrollProfessionals #TheValueOfPayroll #HayleyPaterson #PayrollStrategy #BusinessStrategy #PayrollLeadership #PayrollPodcast #PayrollCommunity #HRPayroll #PayrollCompliance #PayrollTips #SmallBusinessPayroll #PayrollManagement #PayrollExperts #PayrollIndustry #PayrollEducation #PayrollBook #ThreePs #ProcessPeopleProfit #PayrollGuide https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/Y88aNvzTXG4

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    One Question Changed Everything! Terrence Wright

    Episode 196 of It’s About Payroll features Terrence Wright, founder of Wright People Solutions and a people-first HR leader with 20+ years of experience, including leadership roles supporting global brands like Google, Synchrony, and GE Capital. Terrence shares his origin story starting as a fifth-grade teacher until a parent challenged him with a simple question: “What are you doing here?” which pushed him to pivot into HR. The conversation blends payroll news with HR strategy, from NFL referee compensation and “jock tax” concepts to big operational numbers like USPS payroll spending. Terrence explains how he helps organizations move from “policing” HR to true partnership through assessment, design, activation, and ongoing support bringing enterprise-level people strategy to small and mid-sized businesses. Listeners walk away with practical insights on hiring, onboarding, culture vs skills, workforce expectations (flexibility and growth paths), and how AI can boost productivity if leaders train teams to use it well.

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    Jennie Wallace Reveals the Silent Risks Lurking in Your Payroll Data & Process

    Payroll isn't just about cutting checks—it's one of the riskiest areas in your organization. In this episode, we sit down with Jennie Wallace, CPA, CISA, CGMA, and founder of Melody Advisory Services, to uncover the hidden risks that could land you in serious trouble. Jennie shares real stories of payroll chaos, from reports with mismatched headcounts to the dangers of under-resourced teams managing highly regulated processes. Learn why "efficiency without controls is just faster chaos" and how to build audit-ready operations that actually work. Key Topics: ✅ Why payroll is where you go to jail (seriously) ✅ The difference between process problems and control problems ✅ How to right-size controls without creating red tape ✅ The power of audit trails and cross-functional collaboration ✅ Why every payroll pro needs a champion, not just a mentor Connect with Jennie Wallace: 🌐 melodyadvisory.com 📧 [email protected] 💼 LinkedIn: Jennie Wallace #podcast #PayrollRisk #JennieWallace #payrollcompliance #riskmanagement #processimprovement #internalaudit #PayrollProfessionals #HRPayroll #PayrollData #AuditTrails #PayrollControls #ItsAboutPayroll #payrolltips #PayrollExperts #risk #expert https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/BJ9gAdVuQIQ

  17. 199

    Section 125 Isn’t New… So Why Are So Few Using It Like This?

    In Episode 194 of It's About Payroll, hosts Brian and Walt welcome two guests Brian Smith Jr and Eric Boling for a “two for the price of one” conversation focused on payroll-driven savings and employee support. The discussion centers on a payroll-integrated strategy built on a Section 125 plan (a long-standing tax provision) that can increase employee take-home pay while creating savings for employers without adding net cost. Guests explain why this approach resonates in today’s competitive environment: payroll providers and business leaders need more than “same old” services to retain clients and talent. They also break down what employees value most (cash in their pocket), highlight real-world benefit features (like no-cost prescriptions and mental health support), and discuss earned wage access and identity theft awareness as timely leadership topics.

  18. 198

    The Future of Benefits: Smarter Systems & Better Humans w/ Melissa Walker

    What if benefits weren’t just a cost center—but your biggest competitive advantage? In Episode 193, we’re joined by Melissa Walker, Co-Founder & VP of Brokerage at Sounder Benefits, to break down how AI + innovation + human connection are reshaping healthcare benefits for modern companies. Melissa went from working inside major insurance carriers to building a brokerage that brings enterprise-level strategy to small and mid-size businesses—without the complexity. We talk real results, real strategy, and what it takes to make benefits actually work for employers and employees. Why only 1 in 4 Americans understand basic health insurance terms How AI took a 25% renewal increase down to 9% while improving coverage Why the “once-a-year renewal broker” model is dying The benefits + payroll connection (and how to stop deduction errors) Level-funded vs fully insured: when it’s time to rethink your plan The truth about the Affordable Care Act — helped or hurt? How to tell if your broker is driving value—or just quoting plans Why planning before renewal season is the new power move What tech actually reduces payroll/benefits mistakes How modern benefits help attract and retain younger talent The future of payroll: becoming payroll pilots, not just processors Payroll pros, HR leaders, benefits admins, CFOs, business owners—and anyone tired of watching premiums rise while employee understanding drops. Melissa is licensed in all 50 states with 15+ years across both brokerage and carrier sides. Her mission: make healthcare more affordable, accessible, and less confusing through strategy + proprietary tech. 📲 Connect with Melissa LinkedIn: Melissa Walker Sounder Benefits: sounderbenefits.com Email: [email protected] 🎙️ About It’s About Payroll A show where payroll professionals, HR leaders, and innovators share real talk on payroll, benefits, workforce operations—and what’s next.

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    Season 15 in Review an a bonus payroll true crime tangent

    In this Season 15 Review episode of It’s About Payroll, Brian Escobar and Walter dive into the biggest conversations, lessons, and surprises from the season — and uncover some eye-opening payroll realities along the way. The episode kicks off with a look at major news impacting payroll professionals, including minimum wage increases across multiple states starting January 1, with more coming later in 2026 in states like Alaska, Florida, and Oregon. The hosts also break down Amazon Business Prime’s new partnership perks, offering payroll, HR, accounting, and cybersecurity benefits through Gusto, QuickBooks, and CrowdStrike — saving businesses an average of $1,000 annually. The heart of the episode revisits Season 15’s most popular topics: payroll disasters, implementation failures, true payroll crime stories, and compliance breakdowns that cost companies millions. Brian and Walt highlight a recurring theme across all episodes — most payroll fraud lasts 16–18 months before detection, often due to lack of internal controls and oversight. From time theft and wage theft to insider data breaches, the hosts make one thing clear: payroll is no longer just processing checks — it’s protecting the business.

  20. 196

    The Death of Payroll Cutoff Times: Payroll in Minutes, Not Days!

    In Episode 191 of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt sit down with Trent Sorbe, Chief Payments Officer at First International Bank & Trust and leader of Kotapay, one of the nation’s largest ACH and electronic payments originators supporting more than 100,000 payroll clients nationwide. With over 33 years in financial services, Trent shares his journey from the FDIC to fintech founder to payments executive and offers a powerful look into how real-time payments, modern funding models, and “windowless payroll” are reshaping the industry. Trent explains how payroll is undergoing a generational shift as longtime professionals retire and technology becomes the new gateway for attracting talent. He outlines why traditional ACH cutoffs, banking hours, and multi-day payroll windows are becoming obsolete and how real-time funding can compress a payroll event from days into minutes. The conversation dives deep into risk management, small-business payroll access, earned wage access challenges, regulatory complexity across 50 states, and why payroll must evolve into a real-time financial services experience. This episode is a must-listen for payroll leaders, processors, and technology providers preparing for the next era of payroll.

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    Payroll’s Next Generation: Finding Your Tribe & Thriving with Jon Schausten

    Join us for an insightful conversation with payroll industry expert Jon Schausten, CPP, as we dive into the evolving world of payroll. 🔑 In this episode, we tackle the big questions: * What happens as seasoned payrollers age out? * How do you find your payroll tribe as a newer payroll pro? * What does it take to truly succeed in this ever-changing industry? Whether you’re a payroll veteran, just starting out, or looking to build your network, this episode is packed with practical advice, inspiring stories, and actionable tips. Jon shares his legendary payroll journey, the importance of community, and strategies for thriving in payroll’s next era. Don’t miss out on this must-listen episode for anyone passionate about payroll, career growth, and professional community! 👍 Like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes and industry insights. https://youtu.be/DyaH-NjNltg https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payrollitsaboutpayroll.io

  22. 194

    10 Payroll Disasters—and How to FIX Them Before They Cost You $$$

    In this holiday-themed episode of It’s About Payroll, hosts Brian and Walt dive into common payroll challenges and real-world solutions—all while sprinkling in humor, seasonal cheer, and industry insights. They kick things off with a discussion on automating manual processes, noting that many organizations still rely on spreadsheets, paper timesheets, and even fax machines. The conversation shifts to the importance of system integration across HRIS, timekeeping, payroll, and benefits to reduce errors and boost efficiency. Walt shares timely pay news, including RSUs and how vesting impacts tax obligations—often causing unexpected tax bills for employees if not planned properly. Brian highlights new research from Deel revealing stark PTO usage differences between European and North American workers, exposing cultural gaps around taking time off and the pitfalls of unlimited PTO. The core of the episode: ten realistic payroll crisis scenarios—from system outages to misclassification—and practical contingency strategies. The hosts emphasize communication, backup workflows, and proactive planning as key to preventing costly payroll errors. The episode delivers tactical advice payroll pros can apply immediately.

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    True Payroll Crime Stories - Inside Job: The $17 Million Vault Caper

    This week, we explore the incredible true story of David Ghantt, a trusted vault supervisor at Loomis Fargo & Co. who masterminded a $17.3 million inside job in 1997. With the help of former co-worker Kelly Campbell and a crew of unlikely accomplices, Ghantt pulled off one of the largest cash thefts in U.S. history. Discover how a model employee became the architect of a legendary heist, the role of personal relationships in the crime, and the lessons organizations can learn about trust, internal controls, and payroll security. 🎧 Listen to Episode 188 now and join the conversation about payroll fraud prevention and the human stories behind the headlines. https://youtu.be/a_KHgQ5xhDE  https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-your-paycheck  https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll,   itsaboutpayroll.io  itsaboutyourpaycheck.com  Payroll #TrueCrime #InternalControls #FraudPrevention #Podcast #Leadership #LoomisFargo #TruePayrollCrimeStorieshttps://www.oxygen.com/true-crime-buzz/how-did-david-ghantt-kelly-campbell-steve-chambers-steal-more-than-17m

  24. 192

    Payroll Cowboys: Wrangling W-2s, Taxes & Year-End Chaos

    In this cowboy-themed year-end special of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walter saddle up to ride through the biggest payroll updates every pro must prepare for as 2025 closes and 2026 approaches. They kick off with news around the economy — including U.S. foreclosure filings rising nearly 20% year-over-year and property insurance premiums spiking 70% over five years — highlighting why accurate payroll matters more than ever to employee stability. The conversation turns to technology, including AI agents already being deployed in Amazon Connect and even the IRS, sparking discussion around the future of payroll automation. Then comes the main rodeo: year-end tasks, W-2 rules, 10-form e-file thresholds, penalties ($60, $130, $330+, and up to millions for large filers), Social Security verification tools, and common W-2 mistakes. The hosts break down the OB3 Bill, tip & overtime deductions (up to $25K for tips; $12.5K single / $25K joint for OT), new guidance, and what employers should and should NOT do. They wrap up with retirement updates including 401(k) limit increases and Secure 2.0 catch-up provisions. A practical, funny, relatable year-end run-through for payroll folks everywhere.

  25. 191

    Holiday Mashup: Payroll, Pay Cycles & Pie

    🎙️ Welcome to a special holiday mashup episode of "It's About Payroll"! 🎉 In this episode, your hosts dive into a festive mix of payroll hot topics and holiday fun. We break down the real impact of off-cycle payrolls—are they a customer service win or a business headache? We debate whether payroll should stand alone as its own department and if it deserves a seat in the C-suite. Plus, we explore the pros and cons of Earned Wage Access (EWA): is it a true benefit, a bandaid, or a risk for financial fragility? You’ll also get actionable insights for payroll pros, lively debates, and a rapid-fire holiday food edition of "This or That." Whether you’re a payroll nerd, HR leader, or just here for the laughs and gratitude, there’s something for everyone. ⏩ Topics Covered: Off-cycle payrolls: pain points & solutions Earned Wage Access: necessity or overdependence? Should payroll be its own department? Payroll’s place in the C-suite Holiday food debates & gratitude moments 👍 Like, comment, and subscribe for more payroll insights and industry conversations! https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll itsaboutpayroll.io https://youtu.be/fYAbuK7rzo4

  26. 190

    Why All Roads Lead to Payroll and Workday Knows It

    In this episode of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt sit down with Trista Yerkich-Faul, an 18-year Certified Payroll Professional and former Workday HCM consultant with deep expertise bridging payroll operations and HR technology . Trista breaks down one of the industry’s biggest misconceptions: that Workday is only for large enterprises. She explains how Workday Go, a streamlined deployment methodology, now enables small and midsize businesses to go live in as little as 60 days at roughly 10–15% of historical deployment costs . She also reveals why 25% of companies switch payroll providers every year, often due to poor service and tech fatigue, and how Workday’s single-code-line architecture eliminates file transfers, manual prorations, and reconciliation headaches that plague other systems . Trista highlights plug-and-play package solutions—like the Payroll Transparency Dashboard, which can reduce HR ticket volume by up to 60%—making Workday even more accessible for lean teams . Listeners walk away with a clear picture of how Workday supports growth, reduces prep time from days to hours, and provides long-term stability that helps businesses avoid repeated system overhauls.

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    Paychecks, Purpose, and Plant-Based Living with Tabitha Brown

    Welcome to a special reposting of Episode 89! In this inspiring conversation, we sit down with the incredible Tabitha Brown—America’s mom, actress, author, and social media sensation. Tabitha shares her journey from humble beginnings in Eden, North Carolina, to becoming a beacon of positivity, wellness, and authenticity for millions. In this episode, Tabitha opens up about: - The importance of trust and transparency in business and life. - How she manages her finances and empowers her team. - Lessons learned from her family and her rise to success. - The value of budgeting, giving, and staying true to yourself. - Navigating the entertainment industry and supporting the next generation. Whether you’re here for motivation, business insights, or just some good vibes, Tabitha’s wisdom and warmth will leave you inspired. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more amazing conversations! https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll https://youtu.be/FFwa_Cork8E

  28. 188

    From Chaos to Control: Lessons from a Payroll Powerhouse

    In this episode of It’s About Payroll, hosts Brian Escobar and Walter Duncan sit down with industry powerhouse Jenny Lee, a seasoned payroll and HCM expert known for driving transformation through process optimization and collaboration. Jenny shares her journey from hands-on practitioner to strategic leader, revealing what truly makes a payroll implementation succeed—or fail. From the debate between best-in-breed vs. all-in-one systems to the common pitfalls of joining midstream projects, Jenny emphasizes the importance of communication, stakeholder engagement, and post-go-live accuracy. The trio also explores how AI and automation are reshaping the field, but not replacing the human expertise required for compliance and quality. Witty, insightful, and refreshingly candid, this episode gives listeners an insider’s view into the evolving payroll landscape and the mindset it takes to thrive. Whether you’re a payroll veteran or new to the profession, Jenny’s advice will leave you inspired to lead smarter and implement better.

  29. 187

    Redefining How the World Gets Paid: Aron Alexander of Runa

    Join us for an inspiring episode of "It's About Payroll" as we sit down with Aron Alexander, founder and CEO of Runa, the company reimagining how money moves across the globe. Discover how Aron’s journey from helping out in his family’s retail business led to building one of the most innovative payment infrastructures in the world. In this episode, we dive into: The evolution of Runa from WeGift and the power of rebranding How Runa is transforming payroll, rewards, and global payouts for businesses and gig workers The challenges and opportunities of building a global payment network Trends in payment preferences for independent workers and businesses Lessons in resilience, leadership, and scaling a startup—even through near-death moments The importance of purpose, people, and product in startup success Aron’s unique background as a paratrooper and how it shaped his leadership style Whether you’re interested in FinTech, payroll innovation, or entrepreneurial journeys, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration. Links:🔗 Learn more about Runa: https://runa.com📧 Contact Aron: [email protected]://bizky.ai/blog/the-future-of-global-payroll-trends-to-watch-in-2026/ https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/tax-pros-anxiously-await-guidance-on-new-overtime-deduction/?elq_mid=73157&elq_cid=56659880&elq_ename=CP-Newsstand-Newsletter-Template-2025%20October%2030&cid=NA&email=brian%40payrolluniverse.com&sfdccampaignid=NA&chl=Em&utm_medium=email&utm_source=eloqua&utm_campaign=30%20October%202025%20Checkpoint-Newsstand-Newsletter&utm_content=NA https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll, itsaboutpayroll.io Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes on the future of payroll and business innovation! #payroll #fintech #entrepreneurship #Runa #podcast #businessinnovation

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    Payroll Under Pressure: Lessons from Season 14’s Powerhouse Guests

    In this Season 14 Review of It’s About Payroll, hosts Brian Escobar and Walter Duncan reflect on one of their most dynamic seasons yet—packed with powerhouse guests, innovation talk, and real-world payroll insights. They open by reframing mindset and language, stressing how positivity and intentional speech shape success. The duo then dives into financial fitness for payroll pros, revealing practical ways to cut costs—like reducing check shipping and optimizing onboarding for direct deposits. The conversation shifts to the growing role of AI in payroll, sparked by a Paycom ad and expanded into deeper questions about automation, auditing, and the evolving role of payroll professionals. They also review a “Layoff Survival Guide” from Newsday, offering tangible advice on preparedness, emotional recovery, and resilience in uncertain times. Wrapping up, Brian and Walt celebrate their guest lineup—from global leaders like Max van der Klis-Busink and Kira Rubiano to payroll innovators redefining the profession. This is a motivating, future-focused reflection designed to inspire every payroll pro to grow, adapt, and lead.

  31. 185

    Payroll with Purpose: Attracting the Next Generation

    Join us for an inspiring episode of "It's About Payroll" as we sit down with Troy Markusson, a seasoned payroll leader and mentor, to discuss the future of payroll and how to attract the next generation of professionals to this essential field. In this episode, Troy shares his journey from college intern to payroll innovator, his passion for making payroll "cool," and the importance of purpose, compassion, and curiosity in building a successful payroll career. We dive into the biggest changes in payroll, the skills that matter most today, and how technology and mentorship are shaping the industry. Whether you're a payroll veteran, new to the field, or just curious about what makes payroll so impactful, this conversation is packed with insights, real-world stories, and practical advice for anyone looking to grow in their career. https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll,   itsaboutpayroll.io  https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-markusson/ https://youtu.be/hH_PjjvUQlg

  32. 184

    From Comics to Payroll: How Jim Kohl Turned Creativity into Leadership

    In Episode 179 of It’s About Payroll, hosts Brian Escobar and Walter Duncan III sit down with Jim Kohl, a payroll leader whose career bridges compliance, creativity, and comic-book storytelling. Jim shares his origin story—from English major and stand-up comic to Paychex trainee and, eventually, one of the first employees at Check Technologies, where he helped pioneer embedded payroll. Together they explore how this new model integrates gross-to-net calculations, tax filing, and payouts directly into SaaS platforms—redefining what it means to “run payroll.” The trio also dive into current payroll news, from the IRS furlough to a shocking comic-book restoration scandal and a 75,000-ghost-employee fraud in Zimbabwe. Jim’s perspective blends humor with hard lessons about compliance, community, and building teams from the ground up. Whether you’re a payroll veteran or new to the field, this episode shows why payroll isn’t just numbers—it’s people, process, and passion.

  33. 183

    The Future of Tipped Workers

    🚨 Is the tip system broken? 🚨 From underpaid service staff to gender & racial wage gaps, the truth about tipped pay isn’t pretty — and it could all be changing soon. Episode 178 of It’s About Payroll exposes the real numbers, the hidden biases, and why the future of tipped work might be headed for a total shake-up. 💡 If you’ve ever left a tip — or relied on one — you need to hear this. 🎧 Listen now! #earnings #PaycheckTruth #WageEquality #paytransparency #tips

  34. 182

    Mind. Body. Payroll. - Kira’s Powerful Journey

    Global payroll leader Kira Rubiano returns to It’s About Payroll—but this time, the conversation goes far beyond payroll. Kira opens up about her courageous battle with breast cancer, her path to remission, and the lessons she’s bringing back into leadership, consulting, and community. From early detection to empathetic leadership, this episode blends professional insights with powerful personal resilience. A must-listen for payroll pros, HR leaders, and anyone seeking inspiration.

  35. 181

    Brent Skinner on Payroll, Technology, and the Future of Work

    In this episode, we dive deep into the future of payroll, automation, and the impact of AI on the world of work with special guest Brent Skinner—renowned HCM and HR tech analyst, podcast host, and industry thought leader. Join us as we explore: What “autonomous payroll” really means and how close we are to letting AI run the show The evolving role of payroll professionals in an automated world Why “payroll pilots” (humans) are still essential, even as technology advances The importance of adapting, learning, and controlling the narrative around AI in payroll Real-world insights, stories, and a few laughs about branding, learning, and the future of work Whether you’re an HR pro, payroll specialist, business leader, or just curious about how technology is changing the workplace, this conversation is packed with practical advice and big-picture thinking. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes on the future of work, technology, and leadership! Connect with us: Podcast:[https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payrol] https://youtu.be/zBS3iZXl0q4 Guest: Brent Skinner (LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentskinner/) #payroll #ai #futureofwork #automation #hrtech #podcast

  36. 180

    Why 78% of Americans Say Leadership is Broken—and How to Fix It

    In this episode of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt welcome leadership expert William Davis, author of How to Lead Without Just Managing. With decades of experience in corporate, consulting, and retail leadership, William brings practical insights on what makes leaders truly effective. The conversation dives into today’s leadership crisis, where 78% of Americans believe organizations are failing. William explains why trust—not just respect—is the foundation of leadership, and how empathy and emotional intelligence are essential “power skills” for guiding teams. He shares stories from his career at Bank of America and beyond, illustrating how leaders can inspire by putting their teams first, building genuine relationships, and leading with authenticity. Listeners will also learn how to spot hidden leadership potential, avoid toxic traits, and lead effectively—even without a formal title. Whether you’re an executive, HR leader, or emerging professional, this episode provides actionable tools for building stronger teams and reshaping leadership in today’s workplace.

  37. 179

    On the Clock: Dean Matthews on Time Tracking, Payroll, and People-First Leadership

    Get ready for an inspiring deep dive into the world of payroll, time tracking, and people-first leadership! In this episode of "It's About Payroll," we sit down with Dean Matthews, visionary CEO and founder of On the Clock—a leading time tracking solution trusted by over 15,000 businesses. Dean shares his journey from self-taught developer to SaaS leader, revealing how he built On the Clock from the ground up and transformed it into a powerhouse for payroll professionals and small business owners. Discover how Dean’s passion for innovation, transparency, and servant leadership has shaped his company’s culture and product. We explore: • The biggest payroll and time tracking challenges facing businesses today • How automation and AI are changing the payroll landscape • Practical tips for financial fitness and saving money in your organization • The importance of compliance, transparency, and customer-driven innovation • Dean’s advice for aspiring tech leaders and entrepreneurs. Plus, don’t miss our fun “This or That” segment, where Dean and the hosts reveal their favorite foods, leadership philosophies, and more! If you’re a payroll pro, business owner, or just love stories of innovation and leadership, this episode is for you. Like, subscribe, and join the conversation in the comments! 🔗 Learn more about On the Clock: https://www.ontheclock.com🔗 Connect with Dean Matthews on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanmatthews/ https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll,   itsaboutpayroll.io   https://youtu.be/OHgJqTX4w6M  Payroll #Leadership #SaaS #TimeTracking #Podcast #OnTheClock #BusinessInnovation

  38. 178

    Overpaid and Under Arrest: The $400K Receptionist Saga

    In this gripping It’s About Your Paycheck true-crime episode, we unravel the unbelievable payroll fiasco at Palm Beach Equine Clinic, where a receptionist was mistakenly paid a veterinarian’s $400K salary for nearly a year. Key Points Covered: The Error: A third-party payroll provider assigned the wrong salary, and internal controls failed at every level—no alerts, no audits, no red flags caught. The Fallout: The employee spent over half the funds on luxury goods, Zelle transfers, and even sent $100K overseas. She later returned $200K, but only after being investigated. The Legal Side: She now faces first-degree felony charges for grand theft and money laundering, raising debates about intent vs. negligence. The Bigger Lesson: Employers, payroll vendors, and employees all share responsibility. Lack of oversight, absent variance checks, and poor communication created the perfect storm. Pro Tips for Payroll & HR: Build automated alerts, conduct variance audits, review W-2 data for anomalies, and always reconcile payroll with actual employee roles and pay rates. This case isn’t just a shocking headline—it’s a wake-up call for every business. Trust but verify, because payroll mistakes don’t just cost money… they can cost careers and freedom.

  39. 177

    From Free Willy to The Payroll Support Network: Jody’s Unexpected Career Journey

    In this lively episode of It’s About Payroll, Brian and Walt welcome UK payroll veteran and Payroll Support Network (PSN) co-founder, Jody Cox. With over 20 years of experience, Jody shares her career journey from finance into payroll leadership, including building a payroll function that supported over 11,000 employees. She reveals how PSN started as a mentoring connection that grew into a thriving community of thousands of payroll professionals, offering support, laughter, and learning across industries. The conversation takes fun turns as Jody shares her dream of being a marine biologist (inspired by Free Willy), her secret TV appearance on a car show, and the not-so-glamorous moment of losing her phone to the sea. Together, they bust myths about payroll (“it’s not just about numbers”), discuss building safe spaces for payroll professionals to be heard, and highlight how payroll accuracy directly impacts employee trust. This episode celebrates the launch of Payroll Support Network US, a collaboration between PSN and It’s About Payroll, marking the beginning of a truly global payroll family.

  40. 176

    White Glove HR: Empowering People, Powering Business with Sanders Offner

    🎙️ Welcome to Episode 171 of the It's About Payroll podcast! This week, hosts Brian and Walt sit down with Sanders Offner, President of Crescent and Impact HR, to explore the evolving world of HR and payroll for small to mid-size businesses. Sanders shares his journey from starting in a closet to leading a company known for white-glove service, operational expertise, and people-first leadership. In this episode, you'll learn: Why payroll accuracy is critical for business success How HR outsourcing can empower your team and boost retention The importance of blending technology with human service for a seamless HR experience Strategies for proactive compliance and risk mitigation The future of HR and payroll in the age of AI Sanders also discusses the value of building trust with clients, the real cost of employee turnover, and how Crescent HR’s approach stands out in a crowded industry. Whether you’re an HR professional, payroll pro, or business leader, this episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiration. 🔗 Learn more about Crescent HR: https://crescenthr.com 👍 Like, comment, and subscribe for more payroll and HR expertise every week! https://youtu.be/67l8VYar83A https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-your-paycheck  https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll,   itsaboutpayroll.io  itsaboutyourpaycheck.com  https://crescent-hr.com/

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    From Payroll Panic to Growth Magic: How to Never Miss Payday Again

    In this powerful episode of It’s About Payroll and It’s About Your Paycheck, Brian and Walt sit down with Marshall Leitz, a seasoned lending expert with over 35 years in commercial finance. Marshall specializes in helping fast-growing businesses unlock working capital through receivables, inventory, and equipment financing—without sacrificing equity. Marshall breaks down the difference between dilutive vs. non-dilutive capital, explains how asset-based lending works in practice, and shares real client success stories—including a healthcare staffing company that grew revenues 400% during COVID while never missing payroll. He also dispels the myth that “no” from one bank means the end of the road, stressing the importance of finding lenders aligned with your goals. Whether you’re an entrepreneur, payroll leader, or business owner, this episode offers invaluable insights into preserving equity, scaling sustainably, and solving cash flow challenges before they derail growth.

  42. 174

    Inside Rain’s Mission to Make Every Day Payday

    ✅ Summary – In this episode of It’s About Payroll, hosts Brian and Walter welcome Aaron Martin and Shohan from Rain, a leading Earned Wage Access (EWA) company on a mission to end payday lending and improve financial wellness. Aaron shares how lessons from his father shaped his approach to saving, while Shohan recounts his own experience escaping payday loan cycles. They explain how Rain provides employees with instant access to earned wages, free financial coaching, and educational tools to promote long-term stability. The discussion covers real-world impacts such as reduced 401k loans, improved retention, and fewer employee call-outs. They also highlight Rain’s seamless integrations with major payroll systems and their vision for a future without traditional pay cycles. This episode is packed with insights for payroll pros, HR leaders, and business owners looking to boost financial wellness in their organizations. rainapp.com

  43. 173

    Dr. V on Allyship, Inclusion, and Your Role in Culture Change

    🎙️ In It’s About Payroll Episode 168, we’re honored to welcome Dr. Victoria Mattingly (Dr. V)—an organizational psychologist, global keynote speaker, and founder of Mattingly Solutions. From allyship and mental health to data-driven DEI, Dr. V delivers powerful insights rooted in both lived experience and psychological science. Her mission? To make inclusion actionable and allyship a shared responsibility. ✨ In this episode, Dr. V unpacks: How payroll and HR can lead the way in inclusion and equity Barriers to psychological safety (and how to break them down) The power of data in advancing DEI strategy Supporting visible and invisible differences at work Her own journey through cancer, alopecia, and mental health recovery—and how it shapes the way she helps leaders lead with empathy. 🎧 Tune in to hear how we can move from intention to impact in our workplaces—one payroll policy, leadership behavior, and conversation at a time. _______________________________________________ PAYROLL & HR PEEPS, YOUR SUPPORT IS NEEDED! 🎉 Dr. V is thrilled to invite you to celebrate an important milestone with her. The official launch date of the book "Act Like an Ally & Work With an Ally" is Tuesday, September 9th. The book will be sold at a discounted price for one week, so plan to take advantage and buy it between 9/9 and 9/16. We will also be celebrating the book launch with a big party! Whether you’re in Pittsburgh or somewhere else in the world, there’s a way for you to join the fun. For Pittsburgh-area friends: Join Dr. V in person at Alloy 26📍 100 South Commons, Suite #102, Pittsburgh, PA 15212📅 Thursday, September 18, 2025⏰ 5:00–7:00 PM EST✅Register here: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/dr-victoria-mattinglys-allyship-book-launch-party-tickets-1527498893309 What to Expect: with workplace inclusion and allyship champions A peek behind the scenes of the book publishing process Signed copies of Act Like an Ally, Work With an Ally available for purchase For those not in Pittsburgh: Join us virtually and hear Dr. V talk about the book and answer questions📍 Zoom (link provided with EventBrite registration)📅 Thursday, September 18, 2025⏰ 6:00-6:30 PM EST ✅Register here: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/dr-victoria-mattinglys-allyship-book-launch-party-tickets-1527498893309 https://mattinglysolutions.com https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-your-paycheck https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll https://itsaboutpayroll.io http://itsaboutyourpaycheck.com https://youtu.be/bsl5GfrQvg8 Resources for News/Around the Payhorn https://www.selectsoftwarereviews.com/blog/employee-wellness-statistics

  44. 172

    Why Top Companies Listen to John Lee on Cross-Border Payroll

    🎙️ Episode 167 of It’s About Payroll is here, and we’re going global—literally. We sat down with John Lee, CEO and Co-Founder of Work From Anywhere, to unpack the real challenges behind remote work across borders—and how smart payroll strategy is the key to making it work. 🧭 From managing permanent establishment risk and multi-country tax compliance, to addressing payroll and social security challenges in a world where teams are distributed across time zones—John breaks it all down. 🛠️ We explored: Common mistakes companies make when letting employees work abroad Real-world horror stories around tax exposure How WFA’s platform automates global compliance for payroll teams The evolving role of payroll in the rise of remote work, “workations,” and digital nomadism What leaders must start doing today to future-proof their payroll strategy ✨ With a background in global finance, 60+ countries lived in, and six languages under his belt—John brings rare insight into what it takes to pay people properly, anywhere in the world. 🎧Don’t miss this one if you: Support a distributed team Work in payroll, HR, or finance Are figuring out your company’s remote work strategy 🔗 Listen to Episode 167: Work From Anywhere, Pay From Anywhere now — available on all major podcast platforms. #Payroll #RemoteWork #WorkFromAnywhere #GlobalCompliance #DigitalNomads #PayrollPodcast #ItsAboutPayroll #HRTech #futureofwork #TaxCompliance #globalmobility wfa.team - Click to find out more about Work From Anywhere https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-your-paycheck https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll, itsaboutpayroll.io itsaboutyourpaycheck.com https://youtu.be/BWek0fLntqI

  45. 171

    Payroll Is Beautifully Complex – Max Explains Why!

    🎧 EPISODE 166: The Global Payroll Playbook with Max van der Klis-Busink Podcast: It’s About Payroll Hosts: Brian Escobar & Walt Tynes This week, we’re honored to welcome Max van der Klis-Busink — global payroll leader, award-winning author of The Global Payroll Manager’s Playbook, and founder of Passion for Payroll & The Payroll Comedian. Max shares his journey from dreaming about global payroll in Amsterdam to launching a book now sold in over 35 countries—with 100% of proceeds going to help kids access sports. 🎙️ In this episode: Why payroll is beautifully complex The power of structure in chaotic payroll worlds Leadership traits every payroll pro needs now Debunking the “one global vendor” myth How AI can (and should) empower frontline payroll teams What’s next for Max in his payroll comedy journey 📌 Quote of the day: “Every day is Day Zero.” If you’re in payroll, HR, finance—or even just pay curious—this is a must-listen conversation. ✅ Subscribe, rate, and share the episode! #PayrollPodcast #ItsAboutPayroll #MaxVanDerKlisBusink #PayrollLeadership #FutureOfWork #GlobalPayroll #PayrollBook #HRTech #ThePayrollComedian

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    Driven to Succeed: Trucking Payroll

    Trucking payroll isn’t just complex—it’s a moving target. In this episode, we sit down with Michael Ritzema, President and Founder of Superior Trucking Payroll Service, to talk about the unique challenges and solutions in the world of transportation compensation. From per diem strategies and IRS Form 945 to misclassification pitfalls and garnishment headaches, Michael shares hard-earned insights from years on the road supporting carriers. We also dig into how automation is shifting the landscape, what new fleets often get wrong, and where the industry is headed next. If you’re in trucking or just love a good payroll puzzle, this episode delivers. **Website:** [truckingpayroll.com](https://truckingpayroll.com) **Social Media:** - LinkedIn: [Michael Ritzema](https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelritzema) - YouTube: [Trucking Payroll](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw0yXxR3fTjxoPoxtI2kOhA) - TikTok: [Trucking Payroll](https://www.tiktok.com/@truckingpayroll) - Instagram: [Trucking Payroll](https://www.instagram.com/truckingpayroll) - Twitter: [Trucking Payroll](https://twitter.com/truckingpayroll)

  47. 169

    The Future of Payroll Is Personal — A Conversation with Michael Steen

    In this episode of It’s About Payroll, we welcome Michael Steen, Client Solutions Director at Payroll Minds, for a powerful and insightful conversation on the intersection of payroll, leadership, and humanity. Michael shares his nontraditional journey from crisis intervention and mental health to global payroll consulting, and how compassion, personal branding, and listening are his keys to success. We dive into: What the future of payroll could—and should—look like Why AI hasn’t quite arrived (yet) in payroll processing The power of showing up authentically in a sales-driven world The importance of building a personal brand on LinkedIn Real talk on burnout, balance, and leading with kindness If you’re a payroll professional, HR leader, or just someone who values thoughtful leadership and industry disruption, this episode is for you.

  48. 168

    Season in Review

    In this episode, we hit pause to look back and talk through: ✅ What really stood out to us this season ✅ The challenges we navigated behind the scenes ✅ Powerful lessons learned along the way ✅ And most importantly—the amazing guests who brought their wisdom, energy, and heart to every conversation. From compliance curves to pay transparency, global payroll trends to financial wellness tips, these seasons have been full of insights and impact. 🙌 Whether you're a payroll pro or just trying to better understand your paycheck, we’ve got something for you. 🎙️ Tune in to hear our takeaways, favorite moments, and what’s next for both shows. 👉 https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-payroll, https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/its-about-your-paycheck, itsaboutpayroll.io, itsaboutyourpaycheck.com. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250623026106/en/Dallas-YMCA-Unleashes-Workforce-Efficiency-Saves-600-Hours-a-Year-with-AI-First-UKG-Suite https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2180/economics/economic-impact-of-war/ To all our listeners, guests, and supporters—THANK YOU. You help make these conversations real, relevant, and resonant.

  49. 167

    Talking HR ROLL! with Tiana Neal

    In this episode of It’s About Payroll, we’re joined by the brilliant Tiana Neal—a dynamic leader in global payroll and benefits operations, founder of Transcenders Consulting Group, and host of The Human Roll podcast. With deep expertise at the crossroads of compliance, care, and technology, Tiana brings a refreshing and insightful perspective to the evolving relationship between HR and Payroll. Together, we dive into the essential (and sometimes messy) collaboration between HR and Payroll—from recruiting and onboarding to time tracking, benefits, compliance, and system integration. Tiana unpacks the common pitfalls organizations face, shares strategies for aligning people, systems, and processes, and weighs in on the hotly debated question: Should Payroll report to HR, Finance… or stand alone? wrkdefined.com https://youtu.be/cLwt4pVh8fQ itsaboutpayroll.io

  50. 166

    Blockchain vs. The Buck – A Payroll Perspective

    In Episode 161 of It’s About Payroll, we dive deep into the growing conversation around cryptocurrency and fiat currency—and how both could shape the future of payroll. We explore three major areas of debate: 🔹 Decentralization vs. Centralized Control 🔹 Inflation Resistance vs. Economic Flexibility 🔹 Transparency vs. Regulatory Protection From the transparency and autonomy offered by blockchain, to the economic stability and legal safeguards built into the U.S. dollar system, this episode unpacks how each side stacks up when it comes to paying people fairly, securely, and sustainably. As digital currencies continue to evolve, payroll professionals need to understand the opportunities and the risks. Could decentralized finance revolutionize how we pay employees? Or is the traditional system still the most reliable anchor in times of economic uncertainty? Tune in for an insightful debate and practical payroll takeaways from both sides of the coin. Links & References  wrkdefined.com  itsaboutpayroll.io  https://youtu.be/loISEZr38UU

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Brian Escobar and Walter William Duncan III are the hosts of It’s About Payroll. Collectively, they have over 4 decades of experience in the payroll industry. This podcast was created with the intent of sharing their knowledge and attracting new talent to the payroll industry.ItsAboutPayroll.ioYou can access their LinkedIn profiles.https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/escobarbrianhttps://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/william-duncan-477051187

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Frequently Asked Questions

How many episodes does It's About Payroll have?

It's About Payroll currently has 50 episodes available on PodParley. New episodes are automatically indexed when they're published to the podcast feed.

What is It's About Payroll about?

Brian Escobar and Walter William Duncan III are the hosts of It’s About Payroll. Collectively, they have over 4 decades of experience in the payroll industry. This podcast was created with the intent of sharing their knowledge and attracting new talent to the payroll industry.ItsAboutPayroll.ioYou...

How often does It's About Payroll release new episodes?

It's About Payroll has 50 episodes. Check the episode list to see recent publication dates and frequency.

Where can I listen to It's About Payroll?

You can listen to It's About Payroll on PodParley by clicking any episode. We provide an embedded audio player for direct listening, and you can also subscribe via your preferred podcast app using the RSS feed.

Who hosts It's About Payroll?

It's About Payroll is created and hosted by WRKdefined.
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