Jesus the Legend

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Jesus the Legend

Welcome to Jesus the Legend! Join us as we celebrate the Good News of Jesus, and discover how His love changes everything. From diving deep into Scripture to personal testimonies, each episode explores the profound message of Jesus. Whether you're new to the faith or have been a follower for years, Jesus the Legend is here to celebrate the Truth that Jesus is the greatest news the world has ever known. "If I acted crazy, I did it for God; if I acted overly serious, I did it for you. Christ’s love has moved me to such extremes. His love has the first and last word in everything we do." MSG

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    Episode 65: “Seek Him. Make good choices. And have fun.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m really excited about this episode for a couple reasons… One - because I think there are some practical things we can do in our walk with Jesus that will keep us on track. And Two - I have had several confirmations really close together to do this episode. Several nudges. Several moments that I felt like, “Okay Lord, I hear you.” So I’m thinking someone may be encouraged by this… and even if it’s just one person, as I keep saying - it’s worth it.  On the other hand, some of you may think this is the most underwhelming episode ever because the conclusions I’ve come to are less than astonishing. So buckle up and let’s see how this goes. Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 64: Bill Vanderbush (Part 2 of 2) - “The Sound of Your Blood.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend… I’m really excited to let you know that we have Bill Vanderbush with us today, and we’re diving into some powerful and refreshing truths about Jesus and the heart of God.Bill is a third-generation minister, author, and speaker with over 25 years of pastoral experience. Growing up on the mission field and traveling the world, he developed a deep passion for introducing people to the resurrection power of Jesus Christ and empowering believers to live in the fullness of their identity in Him.His books explore mystical spirituality defined in Christ, the radical simplicity of the gospel, and the transformative fire of the Holy Spirit. Notable works include The Sound of Your Blood, The Fire is Not Optional and The Forgotten Way.Together with his wife Traci (who’s also an Author & Speaker), Bill travels extensively, speaking at conferences and gatherings to ignite faith and help others "invade the impossible." He currently resides in the Austin, Texas area.Again, thanks for joining in… let’s jump right in.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 63: Bill Vanderbush (Part 1 of 2) - “The Sound of Your Blood.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend… I’m really excited to let you know that we have Bill Vanderbush with us today, and we’re diving into some powerful and refreshing truths about Jesus and the heart of God.Bill is a third-generation minister, author, and speaker with over 25 years of pastoral experience. Growing up on the mission field and traveling the world, he developed a deep passion for introducing people to the resurrection power of Jesus Christ and empowering believers to live in the fullness of their identity in Him.His books explore mystical spirituality defined in Christ, the radical simplicity of the gospel, and the transformative fire of the Holy Spirit. Notable works include The Sound of Your Blood, The Fire is Not Optional and The Forgotten Way.Together with his wife Traci (who’s also an Author & Speaker), Bill travels extensively, speaking at conferences and gatherings to ignite faith and help others "invade the impossible." He currently resides in the Austin, Texas area.Again, thanks for joining in… let’s jump right in.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 62: David Artman (Part 2 of 2) - “Stump the Universalist: Hell Edition.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I am so happy to say that we have David Artman back with us!David is a husband, banjo player, minister, and one of the leading voices in the world of Christian universalism. After more than 30 years in pastoral ministry, he’s now focusing on podcasting and engaging in the bigger spiritual conversations happening today.He’s the author of Grace Saves All: The Necessity of Christian Universalism where he makes the case that God’s grace ultimately redeems all people—not as a stretch of Scripture, but as its most beautiful fulfillment. Through his podcast, Grace Saves All – Christianity and Universal Salvation, he explores the depth of God’s love with theologians, pastors, and seekers alike.I’ve had David on the show before, and he’s just a great guy who’s genuinely passionate about sharing the good news that God’s grace is bigger than we’ve often imagined, and that His mercy truly endures forever.This time, though, we’re mixing things up a bit. Today we’re going to play a game I like to call “Stump the Universalist.” I’ll be stepping into the role of someone who believes in eternal conscious torment (which, to be clear, I definitely don’t—not even a little), and I’ll throw some commonly used Scriptures his way. Then we’ll let David walk us through how he understands them.It should make for a really fun—and helpful - conversation.So settle in and let’s see if we can put the Christian Universalist on the spot…Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 61: David Artman (Part 1 of 2) - “Stump the Universalist: Hell Edition.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I am so happy to say that we have David Artman back with us!David is a husband, banjo player, minister, and one of the leading voices in the world of Christian universalism. After more than 30 years in pastoral ministry, he’s now focusing on podcasting and engaging in the bigger spiritual conversations happening today.He’s the author of Grace Saves All: The Necessity of Christian Universalism where he makes the case that God’s grace ultimately redeems all people—not as a stretch of Scripture, but as its most beautiful fulfillment. Through his podcast, Grace Saves All – Christianity and Universal Salvation, he explores the depth of God’s love with theologians, pastors, and seekers alike.I’ve had David on the show before, and he’s just a great guy who’s genuinely passionate about sharing the good news that God’s grace is bigger than we’ve often imagined, and that His mercy truly endures forever.This time, though, we’re mixing things up a bit. Today we’re going to play a game I like to call “Stump the Universalist.” I’ll be stepping into the role of someone who believes in eternal conscious torment (which, to be clear, I definitely don’t—not even a little), and I’ll throw some commonly used Scriptures his way. Then we’ll let David walk us through how he understands them.It should make for a really fun—and helpful - conversation.So settle in and let’s see if we can put the Christian Universalist on the spot…Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 60: “Keith Giles & Stuart Delony (Part 2 of 2) - Rapture or Crapture - Truth or Fantasy?”

    Hey everyone, welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really glad you’re here.Today’s conversation is one I’ve been looking forward to for a while because I think this is going to be a really honest and hope-filled chat PLUS I’ve got a couple of great guests joining me!Keith Giles who has been with us before - is a writer, speaker, and former pastor, best known for his work exploring the teachings of Jesus through a lens of grace, peace, and inclusion. After stepping away from traditional ministry, he’s focused on helping people rethink faith beyond fear-based theology and rediscover the radical love at the heart of the gospel. He’s the author of the Jesus Un series, Reading Romans Right, Sola Mysterium and a tonne of others, plus he’s a familiar voice across multiple podcasts, where he regularly engages conversations around nonviolence, and the nature of God.Stuart Deloney is a writer, podcaster, and former pastor, best known as the voice behind Snarky Faith—a platform where satire meets spirituality. After years in ministry, he stepped away from the pulpit to explore faith using humor, storytelling, and cultural critique to challenge the excesses and assumptions of modern Christianity. He’s also a contributor to platforms like Patheos and The Quollective, co-host of The Unlearning Curve podcast—and the author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, which is full-on satire.In this episode, we’re diving into the topic of the rapture—where this idea came from, why it’s become so widely believed, and whether it really holds up biblically. More importantly, we’re going to explore a more hope-filled and Christ-centered way of understanding the future—one that reflects the goodness of God and the heart of the gospel.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 59: “Keith Giles & Stuart Delony (Part 1 of 2) - Rapture or Crapture - Truth or Fantasy?”

    Hey everyone, welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really glad you’re here.Today’s conversation is one I’ve been looking forward to for a while because I think this is going to be a really honest and hope-filled chat PLUS I’ve got a couple of great guests joining me!Keith Giles who has been with us before - is a writer, speaker, and former pastor, best known for his work exploring the teachings of Jesus through a lens of grace, peace, and inclusion. After stepping away from traditional ministry, he’s focused on helping people rethink faith beyond fear-based theology and rediscover the radical love at the heart of the gospel. He’s the author of the Jesus Un series, Reading Romans Right, Sola Mysterium and a tonne of others, plus he’s a familiar voice across multiple podcasts, where he regularly engages conversations around nonviolence, and the nature of God.Stuart Deloney is a writer, podcaster, and former pastor, best known as the voice behind Snarky Faith—a platform where satire meets spirituality. After years in ministry, he stepped away from the pulpit to explore faith using humor, storytelling, and cultural critique to challenge the excesses and assumptions of modern Christianity. He’s also a contributor to platforms like Patheos and The Quollective, co-host of The Unlearning Curve podcast—and the author of The Tribulation Survival Guide, which is full-on satire.In this episode, we’re diving into the topic of the rapture—where this idea came from, why it’s become so widely believed, and whether it really holds up biblically. More importantly, we’re going to explore a more hope-filled and Christ-centered way of understanding the future—one that reflects the goodness of God and the heart of the gospel.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 58: “William Paul Young (Part 2 of 2) - God is Good!”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m really excited about today’s conversation because we’ve got William Paul Young with us.Paul was born in Alberta, Canada, and his journey has been anything but boring. He’s been to Bible school, he was a radio DJ, a lifeguard, and worked in the oil fields of northern Alberta. Over the years he’s also been a business owner and employee, working across industries like insurance, construction, contract work, and food processing.He’s been married for decades to his wife Kim, and they’re proud parents to six kids, with two daughters-in-law, a son-in-law, and six grandkids.Most people know him as the author of The Shack — a book that has impacted millions around the world and sparked a lot of meaningful conversation (and yes, some controversy) about the nature and goodness of God. He’s also written Cross Roads, Eve, and Lies We Believe About God, each one inviting us to wrestle honestly with who God really is.And if you want more, he hosts The Paul Young Podcast, where those conversations keep going. There’s so much more I could say, but let’s get into it… I’m just really grateful he’s here. Please welcome William Paul Young.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 57: “William Paul Young (Part 1 of 2) - God is Good!”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m really excited about today’s conversation because we’ve got William Paul Young with us.Paul was born in Alberta, Canada, and his journey has been anything but boring. He’s been to Bible school, he was a radio DJ, a lifeguard, and worked in the oil fields of northern Alberta. Over the years he’s also been a business owner and employee, working across industries like insurance, construction, contract work, and food processing. He’s been married for decades to his wife Kim, and they’re proud parents to six kids, with two daughters-in-law, a son-in-law, and six grandkids.Most people know him as the author of The Shack — a book that has impacted millions around the world and sparked a lot of meaningful conversation (and yes, some controversy) about the nature and goodness of God.He’s also written Cross Roads, Eve, and Lies We Believe About God, each one inviting us to wrestle honestly with who God really is.And if you want more, he hosts The Paul Young Podcast, where those conversations keep going. There’s so much more I could say, but let’s get into it… I’m just really grateful he’s here. Please welcome William Paul Young.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 56: “Revival or Liturgy? How Seinfeld Set Me Free.”

    Hey everyone — welcome back to Jesus the Legend. As always, I’m so glad you’re here.Today I don’t want to talk about “where I am” like I’ve arrived somewhere. I want to talk about what I’ve learned. Because maybe you’re in the middle of some of the same tensions I’ve wrestled with over the years.For a long time, I thought you had to choose. You were either revival… or you were liturgy. You were fire… or you were form. You were Spirit… or you were structure. And I was a revival guy. No question. I thought everything else was boring and lifeless!I love passionate worship. Long altar times. Moments when the room feels electric. Tears. Joy. Laughter. Prophetic words. I want fire. I want encounter. I want something that feels alive.When I used to the word “mass” or “liturgy,” I’ll be honest — I translated that as: dead religion. Cold routine. Empty ritual. I assumed structure meant the Spirit wasn’t moving. However, over the last while I’ve learned that I was wrong.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 55: “From Violent Texts to a Good God: How I Now Read Scripture.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend.It’s so good to have you here with me again because you guys are amazing! Today I want to spend time unpacking how I now read the Bible. If you’ve ever wrestled with Scripture, felt confused by it, or even a little afraid of it, I hope this conversation helps a bit.I want to slow down and spend a little more time with it, because honestly, it’s one of those things that has been incredibly freeing for me. So let’s dig in a little further today.Now I know this perspective is going to sound strange…or even uncomfortable to some of you, and that's completely okay. We’re all on our own journey and I still have a long way to go myself. What I’m sharing is simply my own experience with a way of reading Scripture through the lens of Christ. It's seeing the Bible as the beautiful story of progressive revelation which—for me—seems to be the most true, most coherent, and most life-giving understanding I've ever had.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 54: “Brad Jersak (Part 2 of 2) - Brad’s Journey: Drawn by Love.”

    (Part 2 of 2) Hey everyone and welcome back to Jesus the Legend! Today I am sitting down for a chat with Brad Jersak! Now, if you haven’t heard his name I strongly recommend you check him out! Brad is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC and currently serves as the Principal of St. Stephen’s University in New Brunswick, where he continues as the Dean and faculty member of SSU’s School of Theology & Culture. He also teaches peace studies courses with The Jim Forest Institute and is a regular Open Table Conference crew lecturer.As if that isn’t enough, Brad is also part of the Plain Truth Ministries team, where he serves as Pastoral Scholar. He writes, edits, and does layout for CWR magazine, CWR press, and the CWRm blog.Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ, and that God’s love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world.I’m so very thankful he has put some time aside to hang out with us because his teaching has really transformed the way I think in many ways. So get ready - you’re gonna love this.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 53: “Brad Jersak (Part 1 of 2) - Brad’s Journey: Drawn by Love.”

    (Part 1 of 2) Hey everyone and welcome back to Jesus the Legend! Today I am sitting down for a chat with Brad Jersak! Now, if you haven’t heard his name I strongly recommend you check him out! Brad is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC and currently serves as the Principal of St. Stephen’s University in New Brunswick, where he continues as the Dean and faculty member of SSU’s School of Theology & Culture. He also teaches peace studies courses with The Jim Forest Institute and is a regular Open Table Conference crew lecturer.As if that isn’t enough, Brad is also part of the Plain Truth Ministries team, where he serves as Pastoral Scholar. He writes, edits, and does layout for CWR magazine, CWR press, and the CWRm blog.Through his books and seminars, Brad shares the good news that God is Love, perfectly revealed in Jesus Christ, and that God’s love heals wounded hearts and empowers us to heal this broken world.I’m so very thankful he has put some time aside to hang out with us because his teaching has really transformed the way I think in many ways. So get ready - you’re gonna love this.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 52: “Jamie Englehart (Part 2 of 2) - Revealing the Father Through Jesus.”

    (Part 2 of 2) Hey everyone, and welcome to Jesus the Legend.Today’s guest is Jamie Englehart. Jamie is the President and founder of Connect International Ministries and serves as a bishop and overseer to churches and leaders around the world. He’s known for his fresh, deeply Christ-centered way of teaching the kingdom, the New Covenant, and the Father’s heart as revealed through Jesus.Jamie and his wife, Wendy—who’s also a recording artist—have been in ministry for over 35 years. They’ve traveled the world as church planters, teachers, spiritual parents and so much more. They’ve got two kids, a growing family, and yes—amazing grandchildren.Their hearts desire is to see future generations empowered, affirmed, fathered, and guided into their kingdom purpose by releasing inheritance and connecting generations.So settle in—Jamie’s got a ton of insight to share, and I know you’re going to enjoy it.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 51: “Jamie Englehart (Part 1 of 2) - Revealing the Father Through Jesus.”

    (Part 1 of 2) Hey everyone, and welcome to Jesus the Legend.Today’s guest is Jamie Englehart. Jamie is the President and founder of Connect International Ministries and serves as a bishop and overseer to churches and leaders around the world. He’s known for his fresh, deeply Christ-centered way of teaching the kingdom, the New Covenant, and the Father’s heart as revealed through Jesus.Jamie and his wife, Wendy—who’s also a recording artist—have been in ministry for over 35 years. They’ve traveled the world as church planters, teachers, spiritual parents and so much more. They’ve got two kids, a growing family, and yes—amazing grandchildren.Their hearts desire is to see future generations empowered, affirmed, fathered, and guided into their kingdom purpose by releasing inheritance and connecting generations.So settle in—Jamie’s got a ton of insight to share, and I know you’re going to enjoy it.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 50: “2026 - Bring What You Have - This is Your Year!”

    Hey friends, welcome back to Jesus the Legend — and welcome to 2026! I honestly can’t believe we’re here already. This week’s episode isn’t about resolutions or pressure. It’s about what happens when we actually bring God what we have and allow Him to breathe on it. In this episode, I talk a bit about going deeper with Jesus, letting go of fear and old hurts, and discovering the freedom that comes when love doesn’t need armor anymore.I also took a quick look at Matthew 13:44 from a slightly different angle — one that’s changed the way I see God, myself, and everyone around me.I’m so excited for what 2026 is going to bring. Let’s jump in!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    “Christmas Break Update — See You in January!”

    Hey everyone, just popping in here really quick to let you know that I'm taking December off from posting, but I'll be back in January with new guests, new thoughts. And honestly, I'm already excited about what's coming. This year has been incredible. It's been such a blessing to me and hopefully to you as well. And just want to say thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you for supporting the podcast and for being along for the ride. It really means more than you know. So enjoy the holidays, Christmas, New Year's, all of it. Hug your loved ones. Slow down a little bit. Take it all in and breathe. And as always, remember you're amazing and you've got a huge purpose and destiny in front of you. I'll see you all in January. Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 49: “George Sarris (Part 2 of 2) - Heaven’s Doors: Wider Than You Ever Believed!”

    (Part 2 of 2) Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend!I’m genuinely excited for today’s guest - George Sarris—a speaker, storyteller, and thoughtful voice who has spent decades presenting clear, Bible-based messages to both the Church and the wider culture. George holds a Master of Divinity from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Speech from Northwestern University bringing a unique blend of theological depth and communication expertise to everything he does.George is an accomplished actor and spokesperson, with a résumé that includes names like American Express, Burger King, Honda, IBM, Zondervan, Pizza Hut and more.And on top of all that, he has also written several books, including two that I’ve read and thoroughly enjoyed: Heaven’s Doors: Wider Than You Ever Believed! and its shorter companion, How Wide Are Heaven’s Doors?You’re not going to want to miss this.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 48: “George Sarris (Part 1 of 2) - Heaven’s Doors: Wider Than You Ever Believed!”

    (Part 1 of 2) Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend!I’m genuinely excited for today’s guest - George Sarris—a speaker, storyteller, and thoughtful voice who has spent decades presenting clear, Bible-based messages to both the Church and the wider culture. George holds a Master of Divinity from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and a Bachelor of Science Degree in Speech from Northwestern University bringing a unique blend of theological depth and communication expertise to everything he does.George is an accomplished actor and spokesperson, with a résumé that includes names like American Express, Burger King, Honda, IBM, Zondervan, Pizza Hut and more.And on top of all that, he has also written several books, including two that I’ve read and thoroughly enjoyed: Heaven’s Doors: Wider Than You Ever Believed! and its shorter companion, How Wide Are Heaven’s Doors?You’re not going to want to miss this.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 47: “Michael Bahry (Part 2 of 2) - Hell is a Bad Word.”

    (Part 2 of 2) Welcome back to Jesus the Legend! Today we’re joined by a special guest, Michael Bahry — the author of an incredible book I absolutely loved, Hell is a Bad Word. I can’t recommend it highly enough!After a long and successful career in construction, Michael decided to go back to school to learn more about his faith. In seven years, he earned two graduate degrees at Providence College, one in theology/early church history, and one in biblical studies; he graduated with distinction in both programs. He is an adjunct instructor at Salve Regina University in Newport, Rhode Island and is dedicated to promoting the good news of Jesus.He carries out this mission through his work with Fifty-Three: Five — a nonprofit organization he founded in 2014 that shares the Gospel of Jesus Christ by offering both spiritual and material support to those in need. He also speaks and teaches on what Jesus truly said — and didn’t say — about divine justice.I’m really looking forward to this conversation, and I know you’re going to love it too.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 46: “Michael Bahry (Part 1 of 2) - Hell is a Bad Word.”

    (Part 1 of 2) Welcome back to Jesus the Legend! Today we’re joined by a special guest, Michael Bahry — the author of an incredible book I absolutely loved, Hell is a Bad Word. I can’t recommend it highly enough!After a long and successful career in construction, Michael decided to go back to school to learn more about his faith. In seven years, he earned two graduate degrees at Providence College, one in theology/early church history, and one in biblical studies; he graduated with distinction in both programs. He is an adjunct instructor at Salve Regina University in Newport, Rhode Island and is dedicated to promoting the good news of Jesus.He carries out this mission through his work with Fifty-Three: Five — a nonprofit organization he founded in 2014 that shares the Gospel of Jesus Christ by offering both spiritual and material support to those in need. He also speaks and teaches on what Jesus truly said — and didn’t say — about divine justice.I’m really looking forward to this conversation, and I know you’re going to love it too.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 45: “Seek First: What if We Actually Did?”

    Hey friends, welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today’s episode is really close to my heart—it’s a verse I’ve been coming back to for decades. A verse that’s shaped the way I look at everything. It’s Matthew 6:33.Let me read it staring at verse 25:“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? And why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not clothed like one of these. But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’ For it is the gentiles who seek all these things, and indeed your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.”Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 44: “Chris Mathis (Part 2 of 2) - What is God Really Like?”

    (Part 2 of 2) - Hey everyone, Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really excited about today’s episode because we’ve got Pastor Chris Mathis from The Summit Church in Edmonton joining us. Chris carries the amazing and contagious message of life-giving hope through Jesus.Shelly and I have known Chris and his wife Nikki—who, by the way, is an incredible worship leader—since, I think, around 2010.We absolutely love them and are so proud of all that God’s done and continues to do through their lives and ministry. Chris and Nikki both have hearts to see people understand their true identity as beloved sons and daughters of God—and to live out of that place of peace and abundance that Jesus promised.They’re also passionate about church planting and oversee the Summit Church Movement, a grassroots network they founded back in 2009 in Florida.This conversation is going to be rich—I know you’re going to be encouraged so let’s jump in!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 43: “Chris Mathis (Part 1 of 2) - What is God Really Like?”

    (Part 1 of 2) - Hey everyone, Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m really excited about today’s episode because we’ve got Pastor Chris Mathis from The Summit Church in Edmonton joining us. Chris carries the amazing and contagious message of life-giving hope through Jesus.Shelly and I have known Chris and his wife Nikki—who, by the way, is an incredible worship leader—since, I think, around 2010.We absolutely love them and are so proud of all that God’s done and continues to do through their lives and ministry. Chris and Nikki both have hearts to see people understand their true identity as beloved sons and daughters of God—and to live out of that place of peace and abundance that Jesus promised.They’re also passionate about church planting and oversee the Summit Church Movement, a grassroots network they founded back in 2009 in Florida.This conversation is going to be rich—I know you’re going to be encouraged so let’s jump in!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 42: “Keith Giles (Part 2 of 2) - Oh God, are you really that good?”

    (Part 2 of 2)Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today I have the great privilege of speaking with Keith Giles!Keith is a former pastor who left the pulpit over a decade ago to follow Jesus. He’s been interviewed on CNN with Anderson Cooper, USA Today, Fox News, BuzzFeed and hundreds of other podcasts and radio programs. He’s a regular contributor to the XM Radio show, “Tell Me Everything”, as part of the weekly “God Squad” segment, and he is the founder and co-host of the “Heretic Happy Hour Podcast”, and his solo podcast, “Second Cup with Keith.”Keith is also the best-selling author of the 7-part “Jesus Un” book series focused on Deconstruction of the Christian faith, and the “Sola” book series focused on embracing the mystery of the Divine. His latest book, “The Quantum Sayings of Jesus: Decoding the Lost Gospel of Thomas” is available now on Amazon.Keith currently lives in El Paso, TX with his wife Wendy.Buckle up… I know you’re going to love this.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 41: “Keith Giles (Part 1 of 2) - Oh God, are you really that good?”

    (Part 1 of 2)Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today I have the great privilege of speaking with Keith Giles!Keith is a former pastor who left the pulpit over a decade ago to follow Jesus. He’s been interviewed on CNN with Anderson Cooper, USA Today, Fox News, BuzzFeed and hundreds of other podcasts and radio programs. He’s a regular contributor to the XM Radio show, “Tell Me Everything”, as part of the weekly “God Squad” segment, and he is the founder and co-host of the “Heretic Happy Hour Podcast”, and his solo podcast, “Second Cup with Keith.”Keith is also the best-selling author of the 7-part “Jesus Un” book series focused on Deconstruction of the Christian faith, and the “Sola” book series focused on embracing the mystery of the Divine. His latest book, “The Quantum Sayings of Jesus: Decoding the Lost Gospel of Thomas” is available now on Amazon.Keith currently lives in El Paso, TX with his wife Wendy.Buckle up… I know you’re going to love this.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 40: "Graeme Carle (Part 2 of 2) Eating Sacred Cows - A Closer Look at Tithing."

    Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m super happy to introduce you to my special guest today - Graeme Carle. Born in 1950, Graeme was a devout atheist and evolutionist until 1973 when he had an encounter with Jesus. He went into full-time ministry just a couple years later and spent the next seven years working in churches throughout New Zealand. In 1982, he moved to Wellington and led a team to pioneer, teach, and shepherd a church while also working part-time in the oil industry as a logistics analyst. After fifteen years, he took a brief sabbatical in Nepal, pastoring a medical mission before moving to Colorado as a Bible teacher & ministry trainer. He has worked with (YWAM), he has done itinerant ministry, pastored, taught systematic theology, he has conducted seminars and just about everything else you can imagine! And as if all that isn’t enough, he has also written several books - one of which is the reason I had to reach out and invite him on the podcast. “Eating Sacred Cows: A Closer Look at Tithing.”This book changed the way I see giving and offers a fresh, thought-provoking examination of tithing in contemporary Christian life. Graeme challenges conventional understandings of tithing—arguing that it's often misunderstood or misused, especially in modern contexts, and pushes readers toward generosity rooted in freedom rather than obligation.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 39: "Graeme Carle (Part 1 of 2) Eating Sacred Cows - A Closer Look at Tithing."

    Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m super happy to introduce you to my special guest today - Graeme Carle. Born in 1950, Graeme was a devout atheist and evolutionist until 1973 when he had an encounter with Jesus. He went into full-time ministry just a couple years later and spent the next seven years working in churches throughout New Zealand. In 1982, he moved to Wellington and led a team to pioneer, teach, and shepherd a church while also working part-time in the oil industry as a logistics analyst. After fifteen years, he took a brief sabbatical in Nepal, pastoring a medical mission before moving to Colorado as a Bible teacher & ministry trainer. He has worked with (YWAM), he has done itinerant ministry, pastored, taught systematic theology, he has conducted seminars and just about everything else you can imagine! And as if all that isn’t enough, he has also written several books - one of which is the reason I had to reach out and invite him on the podcast. “Eating Sacred Cows: A Closer Look at Tithing.”This book changed the way I see giving and offers a fresh, thought-provoking examination of tithing in contemporary Christian life. Graeme challenges conventional understandings of tithing—arguing that it's often misunderstood or misused, especially in modern contexts, and pushes readers toward generosity rooted in freedom rather than obligation.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 38: "Baxter Kruger (Part 2 of 2) You Are Included!"

    Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m so excited to welcome today’s guest—someone whose teaching has absolutely changed my life and reshaped the way I see God.Dr. C. Baxter Kruger has spent the last 30 years traveling the world proclaiming the stunningly good news of our inclusion in Jesus and His relationship with the Father in the Spirit. He’s the author of 10 books and he earned his Ph.D. at King’s College, Aberdeen under the late Professor James B. Torrance.Baxter now lives in Brandon, Mississippi with his wife Beth of 40 years and when he’s not writing or teaching, he’s likely cooking crawfish or carving a fishing lure by hand. It's an honor to have him here.I know you're going to love it!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 37: "Baxter Kruger (Part 1 of 2) You Are Included!"

    Welcome to Jesus the Legend. I’m so excited to welcome today’s guest—someone whose teaching has absolutely changed my life and reshaped the way I see God.Dr. C. Baxter Kruger has spent the last 30 years traveling the world proclaiming the stunningly good news of our inclusion in Jesus and His relationship with the Father in the Spirit. He’s the author of 10 books and he earned his Ph.D. at King’s College, Aberdeen under the late Professor James B. Torrance.Baxter now lives in Brandon, Mississippi with his wife Beth of 40 years and when he’s not writing or teaching, he’s likely cooking crawfish or carving a fishing lure by hand. It's an honor to have him here.I know you're going to love it!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 36: “Rod Williams (Part 2 of 2) Nothing Can Stop This Love!”

    Hey everyone and welcome to Jesus the Legend… today I am so happy to introduce Rod Williams. Rod Williams is a compelling speaker and writer with a passion to empower believers to know their true identity and live joyfully out of their present union with Christ made possible by what Jesus accomplished through the Cross of His Grace.Rod has served in many capacities in churches over the years, including Senior Pastor at The Santa Cruz Church, Senior Coordinator at Cana Seminary and Alumni Professor at School of Kingdom. He holds a degree in Theology from Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College and participated in leadership training intensives at Bethel Church in Redding California, Global Celebration, Jesus Ministry and Global Awakening ministries.Rod previously worked as an entrepreneur and consultant in Silicon Valley for 30 years developing network computing technology and writing.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 35: “Rod Williams (Part 1 of 2) Nothing Can Stop This Love!”

    Hey everyone and welcome to Jesus the Legend… today I am so happy to introduce Rod Williams. Rod Williams is a compelling speaker and writer with a passion to empower believers to know their true identity and live joyfully out of their present union with Christ made possible by what Jesus accomplished through the Cross of His Grace.Rod has served in many capacities in churches over the years, including Senior Pastor at The Santa Cruz Church, Senior Coordinator at Cana Seminary and Alumni Professor at School of Kingdom. He holds a degree in Theology from Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College and participated in leadership training intensives at Bethel Church in Redding California, Global Celebration, Jesus Ministry and Global Awakening ministries.Rod previously worked as an entrepreneur and consultant in Silicon Valley for 30 years developing network computing technology and writing.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 34: "Tim Stewart from Impact Nations (Part 2 of 2) Love in Action."

    Hey friends, welcome back to the podcast! I’m thrilled to introduce today’s guest, Tim Stewart — a man whose heart beats for the transformation the gospel brings. Tim has been with an amazing ministry called Impact Nations since 2017, overseeing daily operations and working alongside teams around the world.From his early days as a missionary in the Philippines to now leading global initiatives through Impact Nations, Tim has seen first-hand how the Kingdom of God brings real change—through healing, counseling, feeding programs, and business development. He and his wife Bethany are raising three amazing kids, and their whole family is passionate about loving Jesus and making His beauty known. I’m sure you’re going to love hearing from him today!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 33: "Tim Stewart from Impact Nations (Part 1 of 2) Love in Action."

    Hey friends, welcome back to the podcast! I’m thrilled to introduce today’s guest, Tim Stewart — a man whose heart beats for the transformation the gospel brings. Tim has been with an amazing ministry called Impact Nations since 2017, overseeing daily operations and working alongside teams around the world.From his early days as a missionary in the Philippines to now leading global initiatives through Impact Nations, Tim has seen first-hand how the Kingdom of God brings real change—through healing, counseling, feeding programs, and business development. He and his wife Bethany are raising three amazing kids, and their whole family is passionate about loving Jesus and making His beauty known. I’m sure you’re going to love hearing from him today!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 32: "Brian Simmons (Part 2 of 2) A Man Marked by Fire and Love."

    Hey friends, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m thrilled for today’s episode because we have a truly amazing guest—Brian Simmons.Brian and his wife Candice have been pioneers in ministry for over 40 years, serving as missionaries, church planters, Bible teachers, and spiritual parents to a generation. From translating the New Testament to unreached people groups in the jungles of Central America to now leading Passion & Fire Ministries, their heart has always been to make Jesus known.Brian is probably best known as the lead translator of The Passion Translation—a powerful, heart-level version of Scripture that’s helping people encounter God’s love in fresh ways. He’s also the author of numerous books and one of the most amazing people you’ll ever meet.Today, we get to hear from someone who’s given his life to awakening hearts to the beauty and love of Christ. So get comfortable—this is going to be good.Let’s welcome Brian Simmons to the podcast.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 31: "Brian Simmons (Part 1 of 2) A Man Marked by Fire and Love."

    Hey friends, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! I’m thrilled for today’s episode because we have a truly amazing guest—Brian Simmons.Brian and his wife Candice have been pioneers in ministry for over 40 years, serving as missionaries, church planters, Bible teachers, and spiritual parents to a generation. From translating the New Testament to unreached people groups in the jungles of Central America to now leading Passion & Fire Ministries, their heart has always been to make Jesus known.Brian is probably best known as the lead translator of The Passion Translation—a powerful, heart-level version of Scripture that’s helping people encounter God’s love in fresh ways. He’s also the author of numerous books and one of the most amazing people you’ll ever meet.Today, we get to hear from someone who’s given his life to awakening hearts to the beauty and love of Christ. So get comfortable—this is going to be good.Let’s welcome Brian Simmons to the podcast.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 30: "Peter Hiett (Part 2 of 2) - Love Wins. No, like... Really Wins!"

    Hey friends, welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m really excited about today’s guest—Peter Hiett.I first came across Peter years ago through a YouTube video called Hallelujah in Hell. At the time, I wasn’t sure what to make of it—creepy music, chalkboards, dark rooms, Arielle singing, and some seriously strange (but intriguing) theology. Still, it stuck with me.Later on, I heard him on David Artman’s podcast and realized—wait, that’s the same guy! Since then, I’ve really enjoyed his teaching.Peter is the son of a Presbyterian pastor and went from studying geology to earning his M.Div. at Fuller Seminary. He’s written several books, has tons of teaching online and he’s been pastoring The Sanctuary in Denver since 2008. He’s been ordained by multiple branches of the Presbyterian Church, and he and his high school sweetheart, Susan, have been married since 1983. They’ve got four kids—whom Peter says he likes most of the time.I feel so blessed to have the opportunity to chat with him today and I’m sure you will love it.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 29: "Peter Hiett (Part 1 of 2) - Love Wins. No, like... Really Wins!"

    Hey friends, welcome back to Jesus the Legend. I’m really excited about today’s guest—Peter Hiett.I first came across Peter years ago through a YouTube video called Hallelujah in Hell. At the time, I wasn’t sure what to make of it—creepy music, chalkboards, dark rooms, Arielle singing, and some seriously strange (but intriguing) theology. Still, it stuck with me.Later on, I heard him on David Artman’s podcast and realized—wait, that’s the same guy! Since then, I’ve really enjoyed his teaching.Peter is the son of a Presbyterian pastor and went from studying geology to earning his M.Div. at Fuller Seminary. He’s written several books, has tons of teaching online and he’s been pastoring The Sanctuary in Denver since 2008. He’s been ordained by multiple branches of the Presbyterian Church, and he and his high school sweetheart, Susan, have been married since 1983. They’ve got four kids—whom Peter says he likes most of the time.I feel so blessed to have the opportunity to chat with him today and I’m sure you will love it.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 28: "Benji McNair Scott (Part 2 of 2) Talking Big Grace and Apokatastasis."

    Today we have a special guest! Benjamin McNair Scott is a school chaplain and Religious Studies teacher at St Catherine’s School in Bramley, Surrey, where he’s served for nearly 13 years. With a BA, MA, and PhD in Theology from King's College London, Benji is an ordained Anglican priest with a background in both parish ministry and secondary school teaching. He’s also the author of Apostles Today and most recently A Hope in Hell, a thoughtful and courageous exploration of hopeful Christian eschatology. Benji lives in England with his wife Cecilia and their four children.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 27: "Benji McNair Scott (Part 1 of 2) Talking Big Grace and Apokatastasis."

    Today we have a special guest! Benjamin McNair Scott is a school chaplain and Religious Studies teacher at St Catherine’s School in Bramley, Surrey, where he’s served for nearly 13 years. With a BA, MA, and PhD in Theology from King's College London, Benji is an ordained Anglican priest with a background in both parish ministry and secondary school teaching. He’s also the author of Apostles Today and most recently A Hope in Hell, a thoughtful and courageous exploration of hopeful Christian eschatology. Benji lives in England with his wife Cecilia and their four children.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 26: "Beyond the Lake of Fire: God’s Love Never Fails.”

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend—a podcast where we’re doing our best to uncover the beauty and depth of God’s story, often in ways that surprise and transform us. I’m so happy you’re here today, because we’re dipping our toes into the book of Revelation… and we’re going to go all the way to the end because if you stop at the lake of fire, you miss something profound. In fact, I believe you’ll miss the heart of the whole thing. I’m guilty of doing it for many years… it’s like once I hit Chapter 20, my brain stopped taking in what God was saying.For most of my Christian walk, I was mentally stuck at the great judgment… books being opened and names being read. So, I’m going to START there…. because that’s where the story seemed to end for me for so long. Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 25: "John Crowder (Part 2 of 2) What If God’s Actually in a Good Mood?"

    Today we have a very special guest—John Crowder. I’ve known John for years, and while he’s certainly stirred up controversy in some religious circles, I genuinely believe that if people would take the time to listen to him, get to know him, and hear his heart, they’d see that his deepest desire is for people to encounter Jesus in a real and transformative way.My sense is that many of his critics haven’t taken the time to understand him. They hear one thing that offends them, make a snap judgment, and write him off. But that kind of quick dismissal often misses the heart behind the message—and in John’s case, that heart is all about Jesus.John loves to push the envelope and provoke people to extreme joy, radical grace and contemplative wonder through the scandalous, liberating good news of humanity’s union with God in Jesus Christ. Based in Oregon with Lily, his wife of 23 years, and their children, John is an internationally recognized author, speaker and advocate of Trinitarian theology. John brings a Christological lens to his teaching, with openness to supernatural expression.You can find him everywhere… all over Social Media, YouTube… his website is johncrowder.net… he's written tonnes of books… he speaks all over the world … he's got e-courses and t-shirts. Honestly, lob a ball with his name written on it in just about any direction and you'll find him.Hope this chat blesses you… I know it did me… you guys are amazing!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 24: "John Crowder (Part 1 of 2) What If God’s Actually in a Good Mood?"

    Today we have a very special guest—John Crowder. I’ve known John for years, and while he’s certainly stirred up controversy in some religious circles, I genuinely believe that if people would take the time to listen to him, get to know him, and hear his heart, they’d see that his deepest desire is for people to encounter Jesus in a real and transformative way.My sense is that many of his critics haven’t taken the time to understand him. They hear one thing that offends them, make a snap judgment, and write him off. But that kind of quick dismissal often misses the heart behind the message—and in John’s case, that heart is all about Jesus.John loves to push the envelope and provoke people to extreme joy, radical grace and contemplative wonder through the scandalous, liberating good news of humanity’s union with God in Jesus Christ. Based in Oregon with Lily, his wife of 23 years, and their children, John is an internationally recognized author, speaker and advocate of Trinitarian theology. John brings a Christological lens to his teaching, with openness to supernatural expression.You can find him everywhere… all over Social Media, YouTube… his website is johncrowder.net… he's written tonnes of books… he speaks all over the world … he's got e-courses and t-shirts. Honestly, lob a ball with his name written on it in just about any direction and you'll find him.Hope this chat blesses you… I know it did me… you guys are amazing!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 23: "Jason Clark (Part 2 of 2) A Fun Chat Rated E for Everyone… Except Pharisees)."

    In this episode (Part 2 of 2), I continue my chat with Jason Clark – writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story Ministries. Jason’s passion is helping sons and daughters grow confident in the relentless, always-good love of their heavenly Father.We talk about everything from rethinking old ideas about God to laughing through life’s wild ride of faith. Jason brings deep wisdom and a ton of heart... like a hot knife through bad theology.He’s the author of God Is Not in Control, Prone to Love, Leaving and Finding Jesus, Surrendered and Untamed, and Untamed – and if that’s not enough, he also co-hosts the podcast Rethinking God with Tacos (yes, tacos – it’s a whole vibe).Jason lives in North Carolina with his wife, Karen, and their three amazing kids.Check out more from Jason at ⁠AFamilyStory.org⁠.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 22: "Jason Clark (Part 1 of 2) A Fun Chat Rated E for Everyone… Except Pharisees)."

    In this episode (Part 1 of 2), I sit down with Jason Clark – writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story Ministries. Jason’s passion is helping sons and daughters grow confident in the relentless, always-good love of their heavenly Father.We talk about everything from rethinking old ideas about God to laughing through life’s wild ride of faith. Jason brings deep wisdom and a ton of heart... like a hot knife through bad theology.He’s the author of God Is Not in Control, Prone to Love, Leaving and Finding Jesus, Surrendered and Untamed, and Untamed – and if that’s not enough, he also co-hosts the podcast Rethinking God with Tacos (yes, tacos – it’s a whole vibe).Jason lives in North Carolina with his wife, Karen, and their three amazing kids.Check out more from Jason at ⁠AFamilyStory.org⁠.Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 21: "Tradition Isn’t a Dirty Word."

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today we're going to talk about something that has completely changed the way I read the Bible — it’s the role of the early church and church tradition. Now, before you roll your eyes and think, “Tradition? That sounds old and dusty,"... stick with me… Because what I’ve found is that far from being dusty… tradition and the voice of the early fathers is extremely important.For a long time, I didn’t intentionally ignore the early church and its traditions — I simply didn’t know they existed. I was so wrapped up in my own bubble, my own lane, my own denomination, that it never even crossed my mind to ask, “Where did all of this come from?” Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 20: "Scripture’s Silence on Hell - What the Bible Doesn’t Say."

    Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today we’re talking about a topic that’s been on my heart for a while now—something that’s both fascinating and, honestly, really surprised me once I checked it out for myself. The title of this episode is "Scripture’s Silence on Hell - What the Bible Doesn’t Say." If your church background was anything like mine, you were probably taught that hell—a place of eternal fire and never ending torment—was a core part of the Christian faith. I was always under the impression it was clearly spelled out in the Bible, no questions asked. But what if I told you that when you actually crack open the scriptures, that picture starts to get fuzzy? What if the hell we’ve been imagining isn’t quite as biblical as we may have thought?Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 19: "God's Refining Fire - Purified by Love."

    Hey, everyone! Welcome back to Jesus the Legend, the podcast where we’re doing our best to dig deep into the wild, wonderful, and beautiful Gospel. Today, we’re diving into the consuming, heart-stirring fire we see all throughout Scripture—the fire of His love, His power, and His presence. But here’s the twist… it’s not a fire that torments forever, but one that transforms. So grab your coffee, settle in, and let’s get into it!Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 18: "We're All Universalists (But We Won't Admit It)."

    Welcome to Jesus the Legend. Today’s episode is titled: We're All Universalists (But We Won’t Admit It).Now before you start yelling, stick with me for a few minutes. It’s gonna be worth it.What if I told you that, in many ways, we already think in universal terms without realizing it? When it comes to sin and the fall, we have no problem affirming its reach. We acknowledge that sin has affected everyone—that not a single person is exempt. We see evidence of brokenness everywhere. We believe, as Scripture says, that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). We accept that the consequences of Adam’s fall have rippled through every corner of humanity.But here’s the question: Why do we stop there? Why do we so easily affirm that sin in universal, yet hesitate to affirm the universal reach of redemption? If we can believe that the fall of one man, Adam, had cosmic consequences, why do we struggle to believe that the victory of one man, Jesus - the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, is just as far-reaching—if not more?Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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    Episode 17: "Freedom - Can We Call It Free Will If We're Not Free?"

    Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend! Today, I want to dive into a topic that came up in my recent interview with David Artman. When I asked him what the biggest push-back he gets against Christian Universalism is, he said it’s the idea that it takes away free choice. That really got me thinking, because I wrestled with that same question a few years ago as well… plus I’ve heard that same concern from others myself. The idea is if everyone ultimately chooses God, then somehow, human freedom is being violated—that real love requires the option to reject Him forever, even if that means eternal separation or torment. But is that actually true? Is that how freedom really works?I believe it’s time to take a closer look at what freedom actually is. Because when we talk about free will, we tend to assume that every person is making fully rational, unbiased, and independent choices. But in reality, our choices are shaped by so many things—our upbringing, our wounds, our fears, the lies we’ve believed, and the cultural and religious systems we’ve been part of. If a person rejects God, are they doing so with full clarity and understanding? Or is that rejection coming from a place of pain, confusion, or deception?If we believe that God is truly a loving Father, does He stand back and simply allow His children to remain in their blindness and brokenness forever? Or does He, in His relentless love, continue drawing them—pulling them toward healing, toward truth, and ultimately, toward Himself?Today, we’re going to explore what real freedom looks like, whether our choices are as “free” as we assume, and what it means when Jesus says in John 12:32, “And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.” What does it mean for God to draw us? Does it override our will, or does it restore it?Intro/outro music licensed from Soundstripe (soundstripe.com)

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Welcome to Jesus the Legend! Join us as we celebrate the Good News of Jesus, and discover how His love changes everything. From diving deep into Scripture to personal testimonies, each episode explores the profound message of Jesus. Whether you're new to the faith or have been a follower for years, Jesus the Legend is here to celebrate the Truth that Jesus is the greatest news the world has ever known. "If I acted crazy, I did it for God; if I acted overly serious, I did it for you. Christ’s love has moved me to such extremes. His love has the first and last word in everything we do." MSG

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