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Kyle, Brust & Nortman

All Pack, All Nonsense, All KBN. 2023 WBA Young Professional of the Year Kyle Wallace, Former Badger and Radio Ink 30 Under 30 awardee Ben Brust, and former Badger and NFL punter Brad Nortman team up from 2p-5p.

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  1. 500

    Hour 1: Nixon Drama and LaFleur Mood Swings

    Ben and Kyle open Monday’s show with Keisean Nixon saying he feels like he is being “punished” as the Packers continue rotating him through different roles at cornerback and special teams. Kyle says Nixon is not being punished, he is being held accountable for poor tackling effort and inconsistent play, while Ben worries Green Bay still needs him because the cornerback room does not have many proven options. Gary Ellerson’s defense of Nixon sparks a bigger debate over whether Packers fans should rally behind him or demand more from a veteran who wants to be paid. The guys then turn to Matt LaFleur, with Kyle wondering whether the coach is acting differently after his extension by taking public shots at Aaron Banks, challenging Nixon and kicking Baron Sorrell out of practice. The hour closes with Jesse Nelson getting roasted for predicting Wisconsin can beat Notre Dame, mostly because his reasoning centers on timing, prime time and new Notre Dame players instead of actual Badgers football evidence.

  2. 499

    Hour 2: Tucker’s Risk and CKatt’s Betrayal

    Hour 2 starts with Tucker Kraft explaining why he continues practicing through contract risk, saying he is thinking about the team and the violent reality of football rather than protecting himself. That conversation gets hijacked when CKatt messes up, leading to the on-air reveal that he is leaving ESPN Wisconsin for ESPN Chicago. Ben and Kyle unload on CKatt after he admits he roots against the Packers and wants the Bears to beat Green Bay, with callers and texters joining in to brand him a traitor. Jason Wilde joins to explain why Kraft is taking a real risk by practicing before a new deal, even though he believes the Packers and Kraft’s side are negotiating and could still get something done before the season. Wilde also gives a fuller picture of Keisean Nixon’s comments, saying fans may be too quick to focus only on the “punished” line while ignoring the rest of what Nixon said about competing wherever the Packers put him.

  3. 498

    Hour 3: Brewers Hope and Bulaga’s Line Alarm

    The 414 Hour opens with Ben and Kyle feeling much better about the Brewers after Milwaukee takes three of four from the Dodgers following a rough sweep in San Diego. Ben highlights the way the Brewers found hits, manufactured runs and responded with Jacob Misiorowski, Logan Henderson and Jake Bauers leading the way, while Kyle says Henderson’s win over Tarik Skubal gave him more confidence in Milwaukee’s young pitching plan. The guys debate whether the Brewers are truly the best team in baseball or simply the team with the best record, while still acknowledging that October matchups against the Dodgers, Phillies or Braves remain a much different test. Catastrophic turns into a sendoff-style disaster for CKatt, covering youth travel baseball excess, Pat McAfee’s album, and whether this should be the final Catastrophic after his Bears-rooting betrayal. Brian Bulaga joins late and says the Packers’ offensive line questions are real, especially if Jacob Monk and Jager Burton are starting guards around a still-developing Jordan Morgan and Sean Rhyan.

  4. 497

    Hour 1: Smack Hype and Brewers Fight Back

    Ben and Kyle open Friday’s show reacting to the Packers’ preseason loss to the Steelers, but Kyle says it still felt like a win because Trey Smack delivered a perfect kicking debut. Kyle is ready to declare the rookie kicker the next Mason Crosby after two 58-yard makes, while Ben tries to keep perspective because it was still only one preseason game. The guys also debate whether Smack’s night or the Brewers’ ninth-inning comeback against the Dodgers mattered more, with Ben siding firmly with Milwaukee after five singles helped end a frustrating skid. Whitefish Bay’s Little League run against Iowa weaves through the hour, including Kyle’s hometown pride, Craig Counsell jokes and the painful extra-innings loss. Packers talk closes with encouraging signs from Lucas Van Ness, Jordan Morgan and Brandon Cissé, but serious concern over Keisean Nixon’s missed tackle, the cornerback competition and the still-unsettled offensive line.

  5. 496

    Hour 2: Florio Slights and Kyle’s Guess Who

    Hour 2 starts with Ben defending his no-cuddle bedtime rules after his daughter kept asking to be held, which quickly becomes another debate over the Brust household’s “only winners” standard. Packers disrespect returns when Mike Florio ranks Green Bay 16th in his preseason power rankings, behind teams like the Bears, Texans and Bengals. Kyle unloads on Florio as a Vikings fan and Packers hater, arguing Green Bay should be much closer to the top 10 even with Micah Parsons expected to miss the start of the season. The guys also discuss how much a possible Josh Jacobs suspension would change the offense, with Ben saying it could force Matt LaFleur to let Jordan Love throw more while Kyle worries about Marshawn Lloyd and Chris Brooks carrying the backfield. Guess Who closes the hour with Kyle revisiting his takes on sneezing during the plague, swamp-ass checks, betting spreads, discount lettuce, Brazilian waxes and CKatt’s movie-popcorn standards.

  6. 495

    Hour 3: T-Shirt Drama and Splitter Science

    The 414 Hour opens with Torey Lowe joining the show without Kyle’s long-awaited wedding-gift T-shirt, sending Ben into a full investigation of whether the shirt even exists and why it has been sitting in Mequon for more than a week. Tori, Kyle and Ben then turn back to the Packers, debating whether Trey Smack was the clear No. 1 takeaway from the preseason opener and whether the offensive line or defensive depth remains the bigger concern. Brewers talk takes over with Milwaukee’s five-single ninth-inning comeback against the Dodgers, the Cubs staying close, Robert Gasser facing Yoshinobu Yamamoto and the upcoming Jacob Misiorowski start versus the Logan Henderson-Tarik Skubal matchup. Catastrophic covers the Field of Dreams hot dog menu, CKatt’s old gas-station hot dog routine and his movie-pass obsession before Homer crashes in to argue that splitters, knuckleballs, cutters and sweepers are all just variations of four basic pitches. The hour ends with Ben revealing he hid Kyle’s missing eight-iron, Gary Ellerson stopping by, and Homer joining Kyle in declaring Trey Smack’s preseason debut historically great.

  7. 494

    Hour 1: Brewers Panic and Liberating Love

    Ben and Kyle open Thursday’s show with a safe-space Brewers vent session after Milwaukee gets swept by the Padres and drops another tight game because of missed chances with runners in scoring position. Ben is frustrated by the lack of timely hitting, the failure to move Joey Ortiz over in a key fifth-inning spot, and the late-game bullpen choices that helped San Diego tie it before winning in extras. Kyle says the slump exposes the same concern he had at the deadline: the Brewers still may not have enough dependable pop, especially if Christian Yelich is not that veteran run-producing bat. The guys debate whether Brewers fans should be watching the Cubs in the rearview mirror or focusing on the Dodgers, Braves and upcoming playoff-caliber tests. Mina Kimes then sparks Packers talk by pointing out how run-heavy Matt LaFleur was last season, giving Kyle more evidence for his “Liberate Love” campaign before Over/Under tests the guys on Aaron Rodgers’ favorite Packers touchdown targets.

  8. 493

    Hour 2: Tucker’s Price and Love’s Proof

    Hour 2 starts with Adam Schefter predicting Tucker Kraft’s extension could reset the tight end market at around $20 million per year, leading Ben and Kyle to debate what kind of production should come with that contract. Kyle says he loves Kraft but would expect unquestioned top-three tight end results if he becomes the highest-paid player at the position. Jason Wilde joins to preview Packers-Steelers preseason night and says the offensive line, Trey Smack and the cornerback competition are Green Bay’s biggest watch points. Wilde also says Matt LaFleur’s decision not to signal good or no-good on camp kicks was soft, even though he still believes LaFleur is a good coach. Later, Chris Canty’s demand that Jordan Love win a playoff game fuels another Packers disrespect conversation, with Kyle arguing Love played at an elite level against Chicago while Ben says winning the division and advancing deeper in the playoffs are what will quiet the debate.

  9. 492

    Hour 3: Golf Chaos and Packers Prop Night

    The 414 Hour opens with Kyle bringing a single golf club into the studio as Ben and CKatt try to explain which iron he should use, what a green in regulation means, and why his upcoming par-three bet already feels chaotic. The conversation turns into a full CKatt life audit as the guys debate his nine-and-a-half-year relationship, whether he should be golfing with listeners at 6:40 a.m., and how quickly is too quickly to get engaged. Packers preseason talk takes over with Green Bay Props and Preview, including Skyy Moore return yards, Jordan Love hits, Aaron Rodgers camera shots, Trey Smack puns, missed field goals, Marshawn Lloyd yards, Super Bowl XLV references and how many conclusions the guys will overreact to by morning. Catastrophic includes CKatt inviting listeners to join his early tee time, ESPN’s top-50 MLB list putting Jacob Misiorowski fourth and Bryce Turang 16th, and a surprisingly strong DMV photo that sends the segment sideways. Bryan Bulaga joins late to preview the offensive line, Trey Smack and Jordan Love’s pre-snap command, while also defending Iowa’s offensive line résumé against Wisconsin’s.

  10. 491

    Hour 1: Ben Johnson Envy and Brust Family Lies

    Ben and Kyle open Wednesday’s show with Woolley revealing there is someone new in his life before Ben turns the focus to his daughter allegedly working both home and daycare for extra potty-training rewards. Kyle says the toddler’s manipulation sounds like classic Brust behavior, leading to a full debate over whether Ben is the real reason his daughter has started stretching the truth. Josh DiMaggio joins to explain why he wishes Matt LaFleur had more of Ben Johnson’s aggressive edge, with Kyle firing back that LaFleur’s résumé still deserves more respect than Chicago’s new coach. The guys and callers debate whether LaFleur is too soft, too conservative, or simply being judged harshly because the Packers have not reached the next level with Jordan Love. The hour closes with Ben telling the story of Russell Westbrook dunking on him during a post-college workout and wondering if that moment ruined his basketball confidence forever.

  11. 490

    Hour 2: Schein Slights Love and Gutey’s O-Line

    Hour 2 opens with another round of Packers disrespect after Adam Schein predicts Green Bay will miss the playoffs, finish last in the NFC North, and says Jordan Love is only the 17th-best quarterback in the NFL. Kyle rips the take as a fact-free hit piece, arguing Love’s interception narrative is overblown and that Micah Parsons’ injury absence comes during the softest part of the Packers schedule. Ben pushes back that Love still has more to prove, while also replaying Schein’s past doubts about whether Love can win a championship. The conversation then turns to Brian Gutekunst and the offensive line, with Kyle frustrated that high picks like Jordan Morgan and Anthony Belton are not locked-in starters and that Aaron Banks’ health remains a major concern. The hour closes with Brewers tension as Ben admits he is scoreboard-watching the Cubs, while Kyle says Milwaukee should focus on winning games, holding the NL’s top seed, and proving itself against teams like the Dodgers, Braves and Cubs.

  12. 489

    Hour 3: Kyle’s Golf Bet and Gannon Juice

    The 414 Hour opens with Ben and CKatt questioning whether Kyle can honestly claim a green in regulation during an upcoming par-three golf outing, especially after video evidence of his past swing struggles. Kyle insists he can win the bet if he practices, while the guys debate tee-shot rules, video proof and whether he should join Seacat for an early-morning round. Packers talk returns with Brandon Cissé praising Jonathan Gannon as a “psycho” in a good way, which sends Kyle into a full defense of Gannon’s energy, blitz-heavy approach and potential to elevate Green Bay’s defense. Ben pushes back that Gannon still has to prove he is better than Jeff Hafley once real games begin, but Kyle is convinced the Packers’ young defensive linemen and linebackers are already responding. Catastrophic covers a high school football player practicing with a venomous snake in his helmet, CKatt’s gasoline-burned foot, his latte caffeine scare, and the Brewers’ continued runners-in-scoring-position frustration before Ben gets ready to live out his Rain Man dream.

  13. 488

    Hour 1: Love’s Reps and Packers WR Disrespect

    Ben and Kyle open Tuesday’s show live from Left’s at the Wisconsin State Fair with Matt LaFleur saying Jordan Love is currently expected to play in the Packers’ preseason opener, though LaFleur reserves the right to change his mind. Kyle wants Love to get at least a series or two, but Ben argues there is not enough to gain with Green Bay’s offensive line still unsettled. The guys then debate whether ESPN ranking the Packers’ wide receiver room 26th in the NFL is disrespectful or realistic. Kyle surprisingly says it is fair because Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Matthew Golden and the rest of the group still have more potential than proven production. They also dive into the cornerback room, with Keisean Nixon getting some second-team reps, Brandon Cissé pushing for a bigger role, and Matt LaFleur making it clear that nothing is being handed out.

  14. 487

    Hour 2: Tausch Worries and Packers Power Slights

    Hour 2 begins with a rough edition of Are You Smarter Than Ben Brust, where Ben survives a low-scoring battle thanks to The Great Gatsby, Bounty and Titanic. Mark Tauscher joins after his vacation and says he is legitimately concerned about the Packers offensive line, especially with players moving around, injuries lingering, and the team still trying to identify its best five. Tausch says the cornerback competition feels different because a young player like Brandon Cissé can grow into the job, but the offensive line uncertainty is harder to stomach for a team with big goals. He also pushes back on the Packers wide receiver room being ranked 26th, while saying the group still has to prove it and identifying Christian Watson as the receiver with the highest ceiling. The hour closes with another round of Packers national disrespect after NFL.com ranks Green Bay 13th in its power rankings, leading Ben and Kyle to question how teams like the Cowboys and Bengals landed ahead of the Packers.

  15. 486

    Hour 3: Brewers Bat Worries and Magic Bets

    Ben and Kyle turn to the Brewers’ frustrating late-night loss in San Diego. Logan Henderson delivered another quality start and Christian Yelich homered from the seven spot, but the guys worry that Milwaukee’s bats still are not producing enough consistent runs. Kyle says the Brewers’ pitching looks playoff-ready, but the offense remains the biggest concern after the trade deadline passed without adding a true impact bat. The conversation shifts to the Packers being one-point favorites in Week 1 against Minnesota, with both guys saying the offensive line is still the issue most likely to hold Green Bay back. Catastrophic includes a golfer getting struck by lightning, Ben’s “regenerative” read struggles, summer-camp memories, and another magic-phone WNBA best bet before the guys close their State Fair run at Leff’s.

  16. 485

    Hour 1: Brewers Grit and Golden Bugatti Buzz

    Ben and Kyle open Monday’s show live from Left’s at the Wisconsin State Fair celebrating the Brewers taking five of seven on the homestand, even if the baseball was not always pretty. They praise Milwaukee’s next-man-up culture under Pat Murphy, led by Luis Lara’s two spectacular catches, Jake Bauers’ unlikely production, Gary Sánchez, Ji-Hwan Bae, Bryce Turang and a team that keeps finding ways to win. The guys debate whether Brewers fans should rather see the Dodgers in a five-game NLDS or a seven-game NLCS, with Ben arguing the shorter series gives Milwaukee a better upset chance and Kyle wanting the Brewers to get as far as possible. Packers talk takes over after Family Night, where Matthew Golden’s deep-ball flashes against Keisean Nixon make Ben and Kyle wonder if the “Golden Bugatti” is being underrated as a potential top target for Jordan Love. The hour closes with Jesse Nelson’s old Brewers bullpen take getting roasted after Trevor Megill and Abner Uribe continue dominating, especially with Uribe riding a long scoreless streak.

  17. 484

    Hour 2: O-Line Alarm and Wilde’s Smack Check

    Hour 2 begins with serious Packers concern after Matt LaFleur calls out the offensive line’s lack of consistency, mental mistakes and technique issues. Kyle worries Green Bay still does not have a settled best five, with Aaron Banks’ knee, Anthony Belton’s right-guard battle, Zach Tom’s health, Jacob Monk’s role and Jordan Morgan’s left-tackle development all creating uncertainty. Jason Wilde joins and says Packers fans should not freak out yet, but he agrees there is reason for apprehension because Banks has not practiced enough and the team has mishandled some of Belton’s positional work. Wilde also clarifies the Keisean Nixon situation, explains why Brandon Cissé’s maturity and steadiness could make him a real Week 1 starter, and says Trey Smack helped himself at Family Night but still needs to prove it in preseason games. The hour also includes Colton Joseph selling a more explosive Badgers offense, Ben refusing to buy too much Wisconsin hype after last year’s scoring disaster, and Kyle getting praised for holding the line during a backpack giveaway.

  18. 483

    Hour 3: Love Praise and Micah’s Edge

    The 414 Hour opens with more praise for Kyle’s backpack-justice moment before the guys shift to Matt LaFleur’s NFL Network comments about Jordan Love’s ability to handle protections and avoid getting out-schemed. Kyle says that kind of praise should lead to LaFleur fully unleashing Love, while Ben pushes back that the Packers still need to prove it over a full season and cannot let the offensive line hold everything back. Micah Parsons then fires up the conversation by explaining why he believes his pass-rush IQ and versatility separate him from every rusher in the league, including Myles Garrett. Kyle loves Micah’s confidence and wishes Love had more of that openly dominant edge, while still arguing Love has shown enough in playoff moments to be a championship quarterback. Catastrophic covers QVC and TV-news slipups, the Violent Femmes playing the national anthem with a grill, and CKatt’s movie-seat preferences. Bryan Bulaga joins late and says the offensive line’s inconsistency is understandable because the starters have not practiced together enough, while also expecting Matthew Golden’s year-two jump to create real production in the Packers offense.

  19. 482

    Hour 1: Skubal Closure and Packers Disrespect

    Ben and Kyle open Friday’s show live from IKEA in Oak Creek with one last big Brewers trade-deadline reset after reports made them feel better about Milwaukee’s pursuit of Tarik Skubal. They debate why the Dodgers had the prospect-and-payroll flexibility to land Skubal, while the Brewers had to protect players like Jesús Made, Luis Lara, Cooper Pratt and Logan Henderson. The guys still worry Milwaukee’s bats may not be consistent enough against the Dodgers, even if Dustin May, JoJo Romero and Antonio Senzatela improve the pitching picture. Packers talk takes over when Chris Canty predicts Green Bay will finish last in the NFC North and calls Jordan Love a middle-of-the-road quarterback. Kyle fires back at the national disrespect, defends Love, and makes a bold case that Jonathan Gannon can turn the Packers defense into a top-five unit even before Micah Parsons returns.

  20. 481

    Hour 2: Vinatieri vs. Brees and Miz at 107

    Hour 2 starts with a full office debate over which 2026 Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee would help the current Packers most in their prime: Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Kuechly or Adam Vinatieri. Kyle stuns the room by picking Vinatieri, arguing Packers fans know too well how much playoff heartbreak can come from missed kicks, while Ben and C-Katt lean toward adding a Hall of Fame quarterback like Brees. The debate spirals into Jordan Love’s ceiling, whether the Packers already have enough at quarterback, and callers weighing in with Love-versus-Brees comparisons. The Brewers return to the spotlight after Jacob Misiorowski appears on The Pat McAfee Show and talks about possibly reaching 107 miles per hour. Ben and Kyle both say they do not need Miz chasing velocity records right now, especially after arm fatigue, while also laughing about WWE’s The Miz telling Misiorowski to find a different nickname.

  21. 480

    Hour 3: Cubs Watch and Love’s Top Targets

    The 414 Hour opens with Brewers scoreboard-watching anxiety after a fan asks Ben about the Cubs, leading the guys to debate whether Milwaukee fans should already be tracking Chicago while the Brewers still sit on top of the National League. Kyle says he is not fully scoreboard watching yet, but Ben admits he follows the Cubs, Dodgers and the rest of the playoff bracket because October matchups are already getting interesting. The conversation takes a comic turn as Kyle is forced to choose between Caleb Williams and Pete Crow-Armstrong in a series of uncomfortable hypotheticals. Packers talk returns with Jordan Love discussing the value of getting steady reps with Christian Watson, Jayden Reed and Matthew Golden instead of living in a full receiver-by-committee world. The guys say a clearer top three should simplify the offense, build chemistry, help Matt LaFleur trust the passing game, and possibly push Love into an MVP-type season. Catastrophic closes with Purdue’s awkward Indiana shot, Stephon Diggs jokes, C-Katt’s dog-walking dilemma, a WNBA coin-flip best bet, and Ben spilling sparkling water all over the IKEA couch.

  22. 479

    Hour 1: Yeli’s Ovation and Brewers Future Arms

    Ben and Kyle open Thursday’s show live from Leff’s at the Wisconsin State Fair with the Christian Yelich conversation still carrying the Brewers’ week. After Pat Murphy defended Yeli from boos, the guys react to the crowd responding with a loud ovation and Yelich answering with an RBI double. Kyle takes a victory lap for backing Yeli, while Ben warns it was still only one game and keeps the focus on what Milwaukee needs from its designated hitter down the stretch. The Brewers’ bigger October picture then takes over, with Tim Kurkjian calling them the best team in baseball and the guys debating how Jacob Misiorowski, Kyle Harrison and Logan Henderson could make Matt Arnold’s deadline patience look right. The hour also includes the return of “2030 Kyle,” Evan Cohen’s Badgers optimism, skepticism about Luke Fickell hype, and Over/Under on the Brewers’ all-time home run leaders.

  23. 478

    Hour 2: Backflip Lloyd and Wilde’s Camp Questions

    Hour 2 starts with Packers training camp chaos after Marshawn Lloyd scores a practice touchdown and celebrates with a backflip, immediately raising alarms because of his injury history. Ben and Kyle debate how important Lloyd really is as Josh Jacobs’ backup and whether Jordan Love should be the one telling offensive teammates to stop taking unnecessary risks. Jason Wilde joins from Green Bay and says Lloyd’s stock is rising, but even Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst are clearly guarding their feelings because of everything Lloyd has already been through. Wilde also discusses Jordan Morgan’s left tackle reps against Lucas Van Ness, Jordan Love’s footwork, Jonathan Gannon’s defensive disguises, and the ongoing Trey Smack rookie kicker saga. The hour closes with Ben trying to avoid assembling furniture for his wife, the Brewers taking three of four from the Pirates, and Kyle Harrison’s cramping issue leading to pickle-shot and hot-cinnamon theories.

  24. 477

    Hour 3: May’s Debut and Packers Disrespect

    The 414 Hour opens with the Brewers improving to 72-43 after taking three of four from the Pirates, but Ben stays on Yeli Watch after Christian Yelich goes 0-for-4. Dustin May becomes the main Brewers story after delivering a quality start in his Milwaukee debut, giving the guys a chance to compare his first outing with Tarik Skubal’s Dodgers debut and rethink what the playoff rotation could look like. Ben and Kyle debate whether Misiorowski, Harrison and Henderson are already the preferred October trio, with May possibly providing stability, experience and multi-inning flexibility. Packers talk returns when USA Today projects the Bears as the NFC North champion and leaves Green Bay out of the playoffs, causing Kyle to rip the national-media logic for ignoring Jordan Love and overreacting to Micah Parsons, Tucker Kraft and Jordan Morgan concerns. Catastrophic hits Grown Ups 3, Akron’s fan offensive coordinator promotion, a Red Sox hair-loss ad, and Jahmyr Gibbs’ new deal before Bryan Bulaga explains why one-on-one camp reps are fun but 11-on-11 work is what really matters.

  25. 476

    Hour 1: Yeli Boos and Murphy’s Patience

    Ben and Kyle open Wednesday’s show with the Brewers’ Christian Yelich problem after Pat Murphy defended Yeli from fans starting to boo his struggles. Kyle says Yelich has earned more respect as a Brewers legend and argues fans should remember what he has meant to the franchise, while Ben says fans are allowed to react honestly to poor production. The guys debate how long Milwaukee can keep Yelich in the lineup as a designated hitter who is not hitting, especially with the Brewers chasing something bigger than another good regular season. Callers push the conversation further, questioning whether Yelich needs rest, a lower spot in the order or eventually a seat on the bench if the slump continues. The hour also touches on the Cubs staying close, whether Milwaukee has already played its best baseball, and Ben’s regret over buying a Pat Murphy jersey before Murphy changed numbers again.

  26. 475

    Hour 2: Micah’s Edge and Tucker’s Fuel

    Hour 2 shifts to Packers training camp, starting with Micah Parsons saying Green Bay’s defensive line needs to build finishing habits in practice even if Matt LaFleur does not want rushers near Jordan Love. Ben and Kyle love Micah’s edge and debate whether he can top 12.5 sacks despite starting the season injured and potentially missing several games. The guys also dig into Jordan Morgan versus Lucas Van Ness, asking whether Packers fans should rather see the left tackle stonewall LVN or see Van Ness dominate as Green Bay waits for Micah’s return. Kyle revisits his brief high school coaching career at Hope Christian, including a rough first season, players learning how to put on pads, and one receiver he still insists was cold. Tucker Kraft then takes center stage after saying outside noise has labeled him a tight end regression candidate, which leads Ben and Kyle to praise his edge, his red-zone value and his role as the emotional engine of the Packers offense.

  27. 474

    Hour 3: Love’s Year and Office Chaos

    The 414 Hour opens with Mina Kimes’ defense of Jordan Love, saying his turnover reputation is louder than the actual numbers and that both film and advanced stats point to him being a high-level quarterback. Kyle argues Love is underrated because Matt LaFleur has not let him throw enough, and he says this needs to be the season Green Bay finally liberates Love and lets the Packers win or lose with their quarterback. The guys compare Love’s MVP odds to the quarterbacks ahead of him, debate how the offense can use the pass to open up Josh Jacobs, and frame 2026 as a true prove-it season for Love. The show then swerves into a workplace study claiming 47 percent of people have “done the deed” at the office, leading to anonymous texts, C-Katt’s own story. Catastrophic covers fantasy football punishments, Justin Herbert and Madison Beer at Chargers camp, and whether a fake-ball golf round is a proper last-place penalty before Homer joins to question whether old photos of Kyle actually look like Kyle.

  28. 473

    Hour 1: Skubal Blues and Smack Watch Begins

    Ben and Kyle open Tuesday’s show still underwhelmed by the Brewers’ deadline after Tarik Skubal landed with the Dodgers instead of Milwaukee. They react to Pat Murphy and Matt Arnold defending the Brewers’ effort, while Ben admits he is trying to recalibrate expectations after dreaming bigger for the best team in baseball. The conversation shifts to whether the Brewers still have enough magic, swag and offense to get past Los Angeles, especially after another frustrating loss to the Pirates. Packers training camp then takes over with a heated debate about Matt LaFleur asking officials not to signal Trey Smack’s makes and misses in front of the media. Ben calls it soft and protective, while Kyle argues Green Bay has to support its rookie kicker and judge him when games actually begin. The hour also includes Alex Strouf’s camp updates on Matthew Golden, Christian Watson, Xavier McKinney, Jordan Morgan, Lucas Van Ness and Smack missing a 52-yard situational kick.

  29. 472

    Hour 2: Micah’s Timeline and Yeli Drops

    Hour 2 opens with Are You Smarter Than Ben Brust, where Ben edges out engineer Eli from Madison thanks to questions about Planters, Sacagawea, Rawlings and the Connecticut Sun. The Packers conversation continues with Micah Parsons discussing Week 6 as a realistic but not guaranteed target for his return from knee surgery. Ben and Kyle explain why even a limited Parsons changes everything for Green Bay’s defense, from pass-rush attention to late-game disruption. The Brewers discussion shifts to Christian Yelich, with Pat Murphy initially moving him down to seventh in the lineup before Jake Bauers’ scratch pushes him back up. The guys debate how long Milwaukee can keep searching for Yelich’s spot in the order, why the Brewers still need their current bats to heat up, and whether Bryce Turang can rediscover another August power surge. The hour closes with Ben celebrating a surprise Culver’s Badgers package offer and Kyle trying to include the whole K&B family in the benefits.

  30. 471

    Hour 3: Skubal Regret and Golden Bugatti Hype

    The 414 Hour begins with Gabe Neitzel’s question about whether Logan Henderson should have been included if he was the piece standing between the Brewers and Tarik Skubal. Kyle says he would have moved Henderson for Skubal, while Ben grows even more annoyed listening to Skubal praise the Dodgers and dismiss criticism of how they operate. The guys debate whether they would rather see the Brewers face the Cubs or Dodgers in October, with Kyle admitting he would take Chicago because he trusts Milwaukee’s chances more in that matchup. Packers talk returns with Jordan Love discussing Matthew Golden, and Kyle argues Golden has the highest upside of any receiver in the room and can take over the Romeo Doubs role. Catastrophic covers a movie-theater fart evacuation, Davante Adams’ Clay Matthews story, C-Katt’s Michelin-star birthday frustration, and a debate over the coolest Packers ever. The show closes with Ben flipping a coin for Best Bets, Christian Yelich moving back up after Jake Bauers is scratched, and a cereal tangent with Homer about shredded wheat, Lucky Charms and childhood food habits.

  31. 470

    Hour 1: Brewers Deadline Nerves and Dustin May

    Ben and Kyle open Monday’s show frustrated by the Brewers’ quiet trade deadline while contenders around baseball, especially the Dodgers and Cubs, start making moves. The guys react to Tarik Skubal landing in Los Angeles, debate whether Milwaukee should have pushed harder, and discuss how the Dodgers’ spending power fuels the case for a salary cap. Ben stages a “sit-in” by sitting on his hands until Matt Arnold makes a move, and the Brewers finally answer by acquiring Dustin May and JoJo Romero. Kyle likes the bullpen help but worries Milwaukee may still need a bat to seriously challenge the Dodgers in October. The hour closes with shock over the Brewers giving up Alexander Frias and Josiah Ragsdale, two fast-rising prospects, for a pair of expiring pitchers.

  32. 469

    Hour 2: Braun on Skubal, Prospects and Hope

    Hour 2 begins with Ben and Kyle trying to process the May-Romero trade, weighing the value of immediate pitching help against the risk of moving two promising Brewers prospects. Ryan Braun joins the Yuengling Legends Line and says Skubal going to the Dodgers meaningfully raises the challenge for Milwaukee, especially because it keeps the Brewers from pairing Skubal with Jacob Misiorowski in a playoff series. Braun gives the Brewers’ pitching lab the benefit of the doubt with May and Romero, saying the organization has a strong track record of unlocking better versions of pitchers. He also discusses what trade deadline day feels like inside a clubhouse, why postseason experience matters for young hitters, and why he would be open-minded about calling up Jesús Made if Milwaukee does not add a major bat. After Braun leaves, the Cubs continue adding pitching, while the guys debate whether the Brewers’ deadline can still deliver one more meaningful move.

  33. 468

    Hour 3: Deadline Arms and the Missing Bat

    The 414 Hour opens with Ben still sitting on his hands and hoping the Brewers add a bat before the deadline closes. Kyle says Milwaukee still needs power because the Brewers’ biggest playoff problem has been scoring runs, not pitching, especially after last year’s NLCS struggles against the Dodgers. The Brewers add another arm in Antonio Senzatela from the Rockies, giving them more bullpen and multi-inning depth, but the guys question whether May, Romero and Senzatela are enough to change expectations. Ben keeps looking for reasons to believe, while Kyle admits the Dodgers remain the clear obstacle and says the Brewers may need to rely on their own style, young players and pitching depth to make a run. Homer joins late and gives the deadline a blunt grade, arguing Milwaukee did something but still did not make the kind of move that changes the championship picture.

  34. 467

    Hour 1: Skubal Stakes and T-Plush’s Deadline Plan

    Alex Strouf fills in for Ben Brust alongside Kyle Wallace, and the hour opens with workplace chaos over Kyle eating lunch in the hallway during show prep. The Brewers trade-deadline conversation quickly takes over, with Strouf pushing for Milwaukee to go all-in on Tarik Skubal or another major move while Kyle warns against mortgaging the future for a rental. The guys compare Skubal’s situation to other massive Wisconsin sports trades, including Micah Parsons to the Packers and Giannis Antetokounmpo to Miami, while debating whether Jesús Made should be untouchable. Nyjer “T-Plush” Morgan joins the Yingling Legends Line and says the Brewers should be careful not to get fleeced, leaning more toward bullpen help and a bat than selling out for a starting pitcher. T-Plush also backs giving young players real experience, talks clubhouse chemistry, praises Milwaukee’s scouting and development, and laughs about his family reunion before admitting lefties were always his kryptonite.

  35. 466

    Hour 2: Love’s Leap and Golden Camp Buzz

    Hour 2 begins with more Brewers deadline reaction, as Strouf argues fans may be too attached to prospects while Kyle stays focused on protecting Milwaukee’s long-term farm-system strength. The guys discuss whether Sal Frelick could be expendable, how much his clubhouse value matters, and why Matt Arnold’s deadline decision could shape both the present and future of the Brewers. Packers training camp then takes over, with Kyle leaning fully into his “liberate Love” campaign after Matt LaFleur jokes about letting Jordan Love cook. Strouf and Kyle debate whether Love has already shown enough consistency and whether the next step is full command, swagger and superstar control of the offense. The hour also covers Packers Madden ratings, Mark Chmura’s wild old-school 100 overall rating, Matthew Golden’s strong camp catches, Benjamin St-Juste’s pick-six, and the early pecking order in Green Bay’s receiver room.

  36. 465

    Hour 3: O-Line Optimism and C-Katt’s In-Law Escape

    The 414 Hour opens with Tory Lowe joining Strouf and Kyle to talk Packers training camp optimism, especially Aaron Banks saying Green Bay’s offensive line could become one of the best in the NFL. Kyle pushes back on going too far with that claim, but he says Zach Tom’s expected Week 1 readiness is a major reason for confidence after last season’s offensive line issues. The conversation wanders into horoscopes, Kyle’s Gemini tendencies, Tori’s optimism, his 50th birthday perspective, and why he is excited to carry high expectations into the Packers season. The guys also discuss Keisean Nixon’s contract situation, Family Night, the Micah Parsons trade, Matthew Golden’s camp role, and Jordan Rodgers calling Jordan Love the best quarterback in the NFC North. Catastrophic closes the show with C-Katt discussing Tony Romo’s OWI arrest, his third trip to see The Odyssey, and his plan to avoid his girlfriend’s mom and aunt despite being together for nine and a half years.

  37. 464

    Hour 1: Skubal Reality and Liberating Love

    Ben and Kyle open Thursday’s show with Ben admitting Kyle may have been right all along about the Brewers being unlikely to land Tarik Skubal. Jeff Passan and Ken Rosenthal’s reports push the conversation toward the Dodgers as the favorite, leaving Ben frustrated by baseball’s financial gap and Kyle reminding everyone that Milwaukee’s future remains loaded. The guys debate whether the Brewers can still compete without Skubal, why Matt Arnold cannot mortgage the future for a rental, and why a salary cap would help teams like Milwaukee keep stars instead of developing them for bigger markets. The hour then shifts to Jordan Love’s over-under numbers, with Kyle once again calling for Matt LaFleur to “liberate Love” and let the Packers quarterback carry the offense. Alex Strouf’s training camp report closes the hour with Christian Watson deep-ball reps, Matthew Golden flashes, Trey Smack kicking updates, and Javon Bullard punching the ball out for the defense.

  38. 463

    Hour 2: Kraft Contract and Wilde on Packers Core

    Hour 2 starts with Over/Under, where Ben and Kyle struggle badly trying to name the NFL’s top tight ends by receiving yards from last season. That spins into a Tucker Kraft contract debate, with Kyle wondering why Kraft should not take a team-friendly deal while Ben pushes back that Kraft should get what he is worth. Jason Wilde joins and agrees with Kyle that Edgerrin Cooper, Javon Bullard and Evan Williams could become the heart and soul of the Packers defense, with Micah Parsons serving as the finisher when healthy. Wilde also discusses Zaire Franklin’s first impression, Jonathan Gannon’s defense, Matthew Golden’s development, Christian Watson’s ceiling, and whether Jordan Love is truly being held back by Matt LaFleur. The hour closes with Guess Who, where C-Katt gets roasted for last week’s effort and the guys revisit Kyle’s emotional Packers fandom, moon-landing locker-room etiquette, and family dinner bill politics.

  39. 462

    Hour 3: Deadline Letdown and Fickell’s Wild Grip

    The 414 Hour opens with Ben lowering his Brewers deadline expectations as reports continue pointing Tarik Skubal toward the Dodgers instead of Milwaukee. Kyle says Milwaukee should still make a move, but not at the cost of prospects like Jesús Made, Luis Lara, Luis Peña or other major pieces of the Brewers’ future. The guys react to former Mets GM Steve Phillips suggesting a massive Skubal package and laugh at how unrealistic it sounds for a two-month rental. Packers talk returns with Matt LaFleur’s comments on Matthew Golden, Zach Tom’s confidence about Week 1, Jordan Morgan at left tackle, and how the passing game can help protect the offensive line. Catastrophic then goes completely off the rails with C-Katt bringing up Luke Fickell’s “five-on-two” wrestling story, leading Ben, Kyle, Homer and Bryan Bulaga into a stunned debate over whether that tactic belongs anywhere near a pool wrestling match with your own kids.

  40. 461

    Hour 1: Best Roster, Love Season and Camp Buzz

    Ben and Kyle open Wednesday’s show with Packers training camp underway and Matt LaFleur saying he is as excited about this team as any he has coached in Green Bay. That launches a debate over whether this is the best roster of the Jordan Love-LaFleur era, with Kyle buying in because of the offensive weapons, defensive additions and young players who have already arrived. The guys frame 2026 as a put-up-or-shut-up season for Love, LaFleur, Brian Gutekunst and the Packers core after three straight seventh-seed finishes. They also ask the K&B family to name the Packers season, leading to ideas like “Reclaim the North,” “Love in the Air,” and Kyle’s favorite, the “BTA season.” The hour also includes C-Katt trying his first Wisconsin State Fair cream puff, reaction to Keyshawn Nixon’s hamstring injury, and the start of live training camp updates from Alex Strouf.

  41. 460

    Hour 2: Skubal Smoke and Shareholder Dreams

    Hour 2 begins with Alex Strouf’s Packers training camp report, including Jordan Love finding Christian Watson, Marshawn Lloyd showing burst, Love flashing a read-option look, and Brandon Cissé blowing up a bubble screen. Kyle reacts exactly like training camp has returned, buying into every positive sign and already picturing the offense carrying the Packers while Micah Parsons is out. The Brewers trade-deadline conversation then heats up with Tarik Skubal getting a standing ovation in Detroit and Jim Bowden calling Milwaukee the most likely landing spot. Kyle still worries about paying a rental price that could cost prospects like Luis Peña, Andrew Fisher or Tyler Harden, while Ben argues keeping Skubal away from the Dodgers has value too. The hour also spirals into Kyle’s Packers shareholder identity, his dream of buying a championship shareholder ring, and a long debate over C-Katt’s golf spending versus future engagement-ring expectations.

  42. 459

    Hour 3: Brewers Deadline and LVN Belief

    The 414 Hour opens with Ben comparing Logan Henderson’s numbers to Kyle Harrison’s season, which leads into another Brewers deadline debate over whether Matt Arnold can really lose no matter what he does. Kyle says Milwaukee’s young pitching and prospect wave give the Brewers a bright future, but he still wants a big bat more than an all-in rental starter like Tarik Skubal. The guys weigh whether going all-in is worth it without a World Series appearance, while also acknowledging that the Brewers are already 27 games over .500 and built to compete right now. Packers training camp talk returns with Kyle predicting Lucas Van Ness will become the camp darling and finally deliver a healthier, more productive season. Catastrophic features C-Katt complaining about babies at an 8 p.m. showing of Toy Story 5 before Homer joins to argue with Ben and Kyle about Badgers football, Luke Fickell, Wisconsin’s NIL money and whether the program’s real problem is coaching or resources.

  43. 458

    Hour 1: Micah Math, Freddy Reunion and Lambeau Debate

    Ben and Kyle open Tuesday’s show with Micah Parsons starting Packers camp on the PUP list and debate what Green Bay’s record needs to be if he misses roughly the first six games. Kyle says he would be grudgingly satisfied with 3-3, but still expects the Packers to aim higher because the early quarterback schedule is manageable and the offense should carry more responsibility. The Brewers conversation shifts to Jeff Passan’s report about a potential Freddy Peralta reunion, with Kyle calling it a low-risk move that could make sense if the price has dropped. The guys also revisit Jesse Nelson’s old Pat Murphy take, laugh about Joe in Madison tweeting at him after Brewers losses, and debate whether Lambeau Field should ever sell naming rights. The hour closes with Ben floating Kyle as a potential babysitter, which quickly turns into chaos as Kyle explains why his wife would need to be involved and why he is better suited for playtime than solo toddler duty.

  44. 457

    Hour 2: Packers Patience and Moon Landing "Questions"

    Are You Smarter Than Ben Brust continues with Marquan in Milwaukee beating Ben 8-7, leading to more laughter over Ben’s missed answers and a wild detour into moon-landing doubts and dinosaur questions. The guys then return to Ed Policy’s confidence in Matt LaFleur, Brian Gutekunst and Russ Ball, with Kyle arguing the Packers were right to keep stability while still needing real postseason progress soon. Luke Fickell’s Big Ten Media Days comments close the hour, as Ben admits the Badgers coach is pulling him back in with talk of leadership, toughness and a renewed Wisconsin identity.

  45. 456

    Hour 3: Brewers Rotation and Giannis Goodbye

    The 4-1-4 Hour starts with Ben and Kyle asking how far the Brewers’ current playoff rotation could go if Milwaukee does not add another starter at the trade deadline. Kyle believes Jacob Misiorowski, Kyle Harrison, Shane Drohan and Logan Henderson could get the Brewers to an NLCS, but not necessarily past the Dodgers or another elite National League lineup. The guys revisit Freddy Peralta as a possible reunion target and debate whether Milwaukee should overpay for Tarik Skubal if the Dodgers also get aggressive. The hour then shifts to Giannis Antetokounmpo reacting to goodbye messages from Bucks fans after his move to Miami, with Kyle thanking him for choosing Milwaukee repeatedly and delivering the 2021 championship. Catastrophic features C-Katt taking on Dan Orlovsky’s anti-pedicure take, HBO Max chasing short-form content, and the generational attention-span gap before Homer joins to react to Aaron Rodgers saying his wife gave him permission for one more season.

  46. 455

    Hour 1: Miz Dominates and Brewers Window Debate

    Ben and Kyle open Monday reacting to another ridiculous Jacob Misiorowski start, with the Miz striking out the Rockies early and calming any concerns about his velocity dip. The guys discuss how his dominance changes the Brewers’ trade-deadline outlook and whether Milwaukee’s best World Series chance is right now or over the next three years. Kyle argues the Brewers’ prospect wave, including Cooper Pratt, Luis Lara, Andrew Fisher and Jesús Made, makes the future even more exciting than the present. Ben pushes back that a season like Miz is having cannot be wasted, especially with Milwaukee right near the Dodgers in the standings. The hour also includes Dan Orlovsky picking the Packers in the NFC North, a debate over Green Bay’s offensive responsibility while Micah Parsons is out, and a strange but passionate discussion about whether lettuce is safe to eat.

  47. 454

    Hour 2: Davante Debate and Wilde’s Camp Worries

    Hour 2 begins with Davante Adams explaining why he blocked out the Packers’ final contract push before leaving Green Bay, sparking a debate over whether Adams would still be the best receiver on the current roster. Kyle argues Adams’ red-zone production and reliability would still matter, while Ben says Christian Watson’s upside and current role make the comparison more complicated. Jason Wilde joins to discuss the Packers’ biggest concerns entering camp, pointing to offensive line, cornerback and edge depth without putting them in a strict order. Wilde weighs in on Jordan Morgan, Lucas Van Ness, Keisean Nixon, Zach Tom’s health and why Green Bay’s offensive line could determine everything else. The hour closes with reaction to Luke Fickell’s “tough, nasty and disciplined” vision for Badgers football, with Ben and Kyle cautiously buying back into the idea that Wisconsin can at least show more pride this season.

  48. 453

    Hour 3: Arnold’s Caution and Bulaga’s O-Line Keys

    The 414 Hour opens with Ben and Kyle turning Matt Arnold’s “responsible” Brewers trade-deadline comments into a full debate about Milwaukee’s approach and Kyle’s own frugal household habits. Kyle loves Arnold’s discipline and one-eye-on-the-present, one-eye-on-the-future mentality, while Ben keeps pushing for the Brewers to shrink the gap on the Dodgers. The hour mixes in plenty of home-life comedy, from KitchenAid and ice-cream-maker purchases to Kyle wondering how long he has to keep paying for meals with his father-in-law after wedding help. Catastrophic features C-Katt bringing a study about farting in relationships before admitting he sent his girlfriend to pick up a Facebook Marketplace golf travel bag at a stranger’s house. Brian Bulaga joins late to compare Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson and Christian Watson before focusing on Anthony Belton’s pass protection and what he needs to show on the Packers offensive line.

  49. 452

    Hour 1: Brewers Deadline and T-Plush Wisdom

    With Ben out and Josh DiMaggio in as the cousin sub, Kyle opens the show by calling out C-Katt for a rough start before turning to the Brewers’ trade deadline. The guys react to Adam McCalvy’s report that Milwaukee plans to be aggressive and debate whether the Brewers are zero, one, or multiple moves away from being a true World Series contender. Josh argues the Brewers need pitching help, while Kyle keeps pushing for a bat and weighs which prospects should be untouchable, including Andrew Fisher, Jesús Made and Luis Peña. Nigel “T-Plush” Morgan joins the Yuengling Legends Line to talk Brewers chemistry, why adding the wrong player can hurt a clubhouse, and why Milwaukee may need to bring up Made rather than waiting. T-Plush also revisits his 2011 playoff walk-off, says pitching and defense win in October, and tells the Brewers not to be scared at the deadline because “scared money don’t make money.”

  50. 451

    Hour 2: Melvin Gordon Raises Badgers Standard

    Hour 2 starts with Melvin Gordon joining the Yuengling Legends Line to celebrate Wisconsin Badgers athletics coming to ESPN Milwaukee. Gordon reflects on choosing Wisconsin, his legendary games against Nebraska, and why Badgers football has to get back to keeping in-state stars home. He says the standard should still be the College Football Playoff, not simply bowl eligibility, and believes the current players have a chance to change the program’s direction if they embrace that challenge. Kyle and Josh then react to Luke Fickell’s comments from Wilde and Tausch, including the Notre Dame opener, quarterback Colton Joseph, and the need for Wisconsin to become tough, nasty and disciplined again. Cheesehead Bucky calls in with some optimism about the offensive line, while Kyle and Josh agree that bowl eligibility alone should not automatically save Fickell’s job.

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All Pack, All Nonsense, All KBN. 2023 WBA Young Professional of the Year Kyle Wallace, Former Badger and Radio Ink 30 Under 30 awardee Ben Brust, and former Badger and NFL punter Brad Nortman team up from 2p-5p.

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