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Liberator
by Chelsea and Layton
Join Chelsea and Layton as they discuss pornography's hard truths through the lens of stories, science, and Scripture. Liberator Podcast was created to remove the barriers of shame and embarrassment that stifle conversations and community around the effects of pornography. We look forward to earning your trust.
Episodes
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145. Deep Fakes and Protecting Our Kids with L&C
Artificial intelligence is advancing quickly, and with that advancement comes new challenges for families—especially when it comes to protecting children online. Chelsea and Layton discuss the rise of deep fake technology, specifically the growing use of AI "nudification" tools that can create…
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144. Jesus is King with L&C
What happens when we stop viewing Jesus only as Savior—and begin living like He is truly our King? In this episode, Layton and Chelsea explore how the kingship of Christ changes the way we approach pornography, sexual integrity, and obedience. While God's mercy and grace are foundational to the...
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143. Are My Standards Too High? with L&C
Is it unrealistic to expect your significant other to be free from pornography? What if they have a past with it? What if they're currently struggling? Layton and Chelsea discuss one of the most nuanced questions they've received. Drawing from their own story, biblical principles, and years of...
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142. The High Places with L&C
Chelsea and Layton explore a powerful biblical pattern found throughout 1 and 2 Kings: the "high places." While many of Judah's righteous kings removed idols, false prophets, and pagan temples, most failed to tear down the high places—small, hidden locations of compromise that remained scattered...
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141. Has Porn Made Women Competitors? with L&C
Why is our first inclination as women to tear each other down? Chelsea and Layton explore how insecurity, comparison, and pornography intersect in the lives of many women. Chelsea shares how betrayal trauma intensified existing insecurities and led her to view other women as a threat rather than...
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140. "How Much Further?" with L&C
When you're hiking a difficult trail, there's one question almost everyone asks: "How much further?" In this episode of Liberator, Chelsea shares the story of tackling one of the most challenging hikes she's ever completed in Yosemite National Park. Along the way, she noticed a familiar question...
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139. Accountability App Dependency with L&C
Can using accountability software actually become unhealthy? In this episode of Liberator, Chelsea and Layton have an honest conversation about monitoring apps — the good, the necessary, and the potential hazards of using them without discernment. Chelsea shares how, in the early stages of…
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138. Rewind: Scott Kedersha
We're revisiting one of our favorite episodes this week on Liberator. Our friend Scott Kedersha joins us to discuss the challenges and impact of pornography in relationships. Scott is the National Director of Merge and Foundation Groups at Watermark Community Church. He shares his personal…
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137. Gordon Brooks Jr.
Gordon Brooks Jr. joins the show! Gordon is the author of the recently released book, Sexpectations. This episode delves into the complexities of navigating expectations, fostering vulnerability, and building spiritual connections. Gordon shares insights from his book into how unpacking hidden...
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136. Rewind: Caitlin McCaffrey
Chelsea and Layton are joined by Caitlin McCaffrey, the Director of Women's Ministry at Harvest USA. They explore the mission of Harvest USA, God's heart towards those struggling with betrayal and sexual sin, and the significant need for support among women facing these challenges. Caitlin shares...
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135. True Loyalty with L&C
What does godly loyalty look like in action? And how does it compare to the loyalty of this world? Chelsea and Layton explore the biblical stories of Joab and Nathan to draw lessons on integrity, accountability, and the importance of choosing the right people around us, especially in the context…
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134. Trust vs. Forgiveness with L&C
If forgiveness is given after betrayal, why does trust still feel so elusive? Chelsea and Layton explore the nuances between trust and forgiveness in relationships, with a specific emphasis on understanding how they are linked and where they differ. The episode includes personal stories…
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133. Jeremy Bilderback
Jeremy Bilderback returns on Liberator! Together with Layton and Chelsea, he'll help unpack the additional weight of sexual sin described in 1 Corinthians 6:18. This episode explores the spiritual and biological aspects of sexual sin, emphasizing the importance of worship, dependence on God, and...
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132. Potiphar's Wife with L&C
Chelsea and Layton explore the story of Potiphar's wife from Genesis 39, analyzing themes of temptation, lust, and integrity. Join us as we peel back the layers on an often overlooked character from Joseph's narrative. Together we'll discuss how to recognize and resist destructive desires,...
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131. Preserve My Heart with L&C
How much does unforgiveness affect our healing? Chelsea and Layton talk through one of the most important truths they learned during their relationship's early days of healing. Chelsea draws on her own experience and the book of Ruth to find practical lessons for processing bitterness. Join us as...
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130. Possessiveness and Pride with L&C
Have you ever considered that porn is contributing to a self-absorbed view of the people around you? Chelsea and Layton explore the hidden roots of possessiveness, its connection to pride, and how it impacts relationships and spiritual growth. They discuss personal stories, biblical insights, and...
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129. Rewind: Jason VanRuler
We are rewinding it back with our friend and licensed therapist, Jason VanRuler on the show. Jason began his career in 2011 and has worked with many populations over the years, ranging from persons who are incarcerated to top CEOs, performers and artists, and just about everyone in between. Jason...
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128. Fantasy and Erotica with L&C
Chelsea and Layton discuss the subtle dangers of fantasy and erotica and how they can shape unrealistic expectations around romance, pursuit, and intimacy. Chelsea shares a personal story that revealed how easily media can stir comparison and discontent within relationships. Together, they invite...
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127. Wade McHargue
Layton and Chelsea sit down with longtime church-planter and disciple-maker Wade McHargue to hear his incredible story of struggle, calling, and freedom. Wade shares the deeply personal battle he faced after being exposed to pornography as a child and the shame and bondage that followed him for...
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126. Holy Ambition with L&C
Could the effects of pornography be preventing you from hearing God's call on your life? Chelsea and Layton explore the concept of holy ambition, particularly in the context of weeding out the entanglements created by porn. The episode walks through what it looks like to move beyond traditional...
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125. Falling In Love With Freedom with L&C
Chelsea and Layton talk about what real freedom looks like — especially in the early days of breaking free from pornography, shame, and hidden struggles. They unpack how liberation doesn't always feel good at first — but gets exponentially better over time. Drawing from stories in the Book of...
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124. How Betrayal Affects the Body with L&C
Chelsea and Layton delve into the profound effects of betrayal on the brain and body. They explore the symptoms of betrayal trauma, the importance of understanding these responses, and the journey towards healing. The conversation emphasizes the need for compassion, support, and effective...
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123. John Rue (Built To Lead)
John Rue joins Liberator for today's conversation! John is a coach, mentor, and trainer at Built-to-Lead. In this episode he brings his passion for helping teams and individuals reach their full effectiveness and God-given potential. John shares his insights into one of our favorite topics:...
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122. Lot's Wife with L&C
Chelsea and Layton explore the biblical story of Lot's wife from Genesis 19, discussing themes of nostalgia, longing for the past, and the challenges of moving forward after experiencing betrayal and addiction. They reflect on personal experiences and the importance of understanding God's heart…
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121. Sexual Illiteracy with L&C
Chelsea and Layton examine the link between pornography and sexual illiteracy. They explore how adolescents absorb sexual scripts from pornographic content, leading to misconceptions about real-life sexual experiences. The conversation emphasizes the importance of reclaiming sexuality within the...
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120. Relapse with L&C
Chelsea and Layton share how relapse affected their individual healing and the path of their relationship. They unpack both of their perspectives from the event as well as the challenges that resulted. The episode includes advice and messages of hope.
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119. George Faller, LMFT
George Faller joins Liberator for today's episode! George brings his experience as a licensed EFT therapist and trainer to explore the complexities of anger in relationships, particularly in the context of betrayal and pornography. George emphasizes the significance of understanding the…
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118. Get Moving with L&C
In this episode, Chelsea and Layton discuss the critical role of exercise in recovery and healing, emphasizing the importance of movement for both physical and mental health. They explore the science behind how exercise boosts brain resilience, enhances mood, and helps break cycles of temptation....
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117. Liberator Christmas 2025 with L&C
In this Christmas episode of Liberator, hosts Chelsea and Layton discuss the complexities of the holiday season - including the struggles of isolation and the high consumption of pornography during this time. They emphasize the meaning of Christmas as a time for belonging with God, and Jesus'...
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116. King David with L&C
Chelsea and Layton explore the legacy of King David, delving into themes of brokenness, redemption, and the importance of a contrite heart. They discuss David's complex life, his mistakes, and how his relationship with God exemplifies true surrender and humility.
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115. Bonnie Pue
Chelsea and Layton welcome Bonnie Pue back to the show to discuss her new book! 'Awkward' aims to equip parents to have the difficult conversations with their children around sexuality and culture. Bonnie shares her journey of writing the book, the importance of gospel-centered discussions, and…
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114. Red Lines with L&C
Chelsea and Layton discuss the concept of "red lines" in relationships, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries to foster trust and accountability. They draw upon their own story to explore how these boundaries can help rebuild trust after betrayal, the necessity of open dialogue, and…
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113. How Do I Accept Encouragement? with L&C
Chelsea and Layton dive into a deeply overlooked part of healing from betrayal: learning how to receive encouragement, affirmation, and love again—especially from the very person who caused the pain. Chelsea shares vulnerably about years of brushing off compliments, both before and after…
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112. Be Present with L&C
Chelsea and Layton unpack the discipline of being fully present in the recovery journey from porn. The conversation analyzes the roadblocks created by unhealthy focus on our past mistakes or future anxieties. Personal stories and Biblical text are used to give real-life applications throughout…
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111. Molly Bertles
Molly Bertles shares her journey of overcoming personal struggles with masturbation and shame, and how she found freedom through biblical counseling. She discusses the challenges women face in addressing sexual sin, the importance of community and openness, and the role of social media in shaping...
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110. Is It Okay to Replace Porn with Images of My Spouse? with L&C
Chelsea and Layton have one of their most nuanced conversations yet — tackling a question that many couples quietly wrestle with: "Is it okay to replace pornography with images or videos of my spouse?" This episode dives deep into the gray areas of sexuality, desire, and healing — exploring where...
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109. You'll Never Understand with L&C
Have you ever felt like your spouse or partner couldn't possibly understand the damage that porn has created in your life? In Episode 109, Chelsea and Layton sit down to unpack the wounds and struggles that have been some of their greatest sources of frustration. Through sharing their individual...
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108. Woman At The Well with L&C
Chelsea and Layton explore the story of Jesus and the woman at the well, discussing themes of sexual brokenness, personal transformation, and the healing power of faith. They emphasize how Jesus meets individuals in their struggles, offering them hope and a new identity through His grace. The...
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107. Ellen Dykas (Harvest USA)
Ellen Dykas is Harvest USA's Director of Equipping for Ministry to Women. She's authored several mini-books, a women's curriculum, a devotional, and, most recently, Jesus and Your Unwanted Journey: Wives Finding Comfort After Sexual Betrayal. She joins Liberator to discuss the challenges and…
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106. Take Your Partner's Pain Seriously with L&C
Chelsea and Layton discuss the importance of taking your partner's pain seriously and the role of validation in relationships. They explore how emotional responses can impact communication and the significance of mirroring feelings to foster understanding. The conversation emphasizes proactive...
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105. Exploring the Roots with L&C
Chelsea and Layton discuss the complexities of addressing root problems related to pornography and emotional struggles. They cover the importance of self-analysis, inviting God into the healing process, and the role of community and mentorship in personal growth. The conversation emphasizes the...
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104. Have Fun Together with L&C
Chelsea and Layton discuss their relationship mantra, "Have fun together!" They emphasize the importance of taking breaks from grief, being intentional about building intimacy, and rediscovering joy in everyday moments. The phrase has been especially helpful while navigating challenges in…
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103. Lisa Whittle
Lisa Whittle joines the show to explore the complex issues surrounding body image, self-worth, and the impact of cultural narratives on personal identity. Together we discuss the challenges women face regarding body image, the influence of pornography, and the importance of understanding one's...
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102. A.I. Relationships with L&C
Chelsea and Layton explore the rise of romantic relationships between humans and Artifical Intelligence, discussing the dangers of emotional attachment to AI. They highlight the counterfeit nature of AI relationships, the illusion of emotional support it provides, and the importance of genuine...
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101. Made for More with L&C
Join Layton and Chelsea as they explore how pornography disrupts the true purpose that we are all called towards. The conversation expounds on the idea that we are God's handiwork, created for good works, and that there is always hope for us to walk our path in freedom. "Made for More" by Josh...
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100. Swimsuit Season with L&C
Chelsea and Layton celebrate their 100th episode by discussing the challenges of swimsuit season, body image pressures, and the importance of communication and trust in relationships. They explore how societal expectations can affect self-worth and the need for preparation and boundaries to...
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99. Casey & Meygan Caston (Marriage 365)
Casey and Meygan Caston, founders of Marriage 365, share their journey from college sweethearts to leading a successful marriage ministry. They discuss the challenges they faced in their early marriage, the importance of individual growth, and how their experiences led to the creation of Marriage...
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98. Rewind: Nate Larkin
Nate Larkin shares his journey of recovery and healing from pornography and sexual addiction. Growing up in a conservative Christian home, Nate experienced trauma and shame that led him to seek solace in pornography. He struggled with guilt and shame, hiding his addiction from his wife and…
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97. How Can I Support Someone Affected by Pornography Use? With L&C
Chelsea and Layton discuss how to be community for individuals affected by pornography. The episode explores how to approach the conversations with tact, compassion, and empathy - implementing practical steps that the hosts have learned from their own story. Authentic Intimacy Harvest USA
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96. Does It Get Any Easier? with L&C
This episode explores the personal and shared journey of healing from pornography addiction and betrayal trauma within marriage. The hosts, Chelsea and Layton, discuss the question they often receive: "Does it get easier?" They respond with honest reflections, spiritual insights, scientific...
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Join Chelsea and Layton as they discuss pornography's hard truths through the lens of stories, science, and Scripture. Liberator Podcast was created to remove the barriers of shame and embarrassment that stifle conversations and community around the effects of pornography. We look forward to earning your trust.
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Join Chelsea and Layton as they discuss pornography's hard truths through the lens of stories, science, and Scripture. Liberator Podcast was created to remove the barriers of shame and embarrassment that stifle conversations and community around the effects of pornography. We look forward to...
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