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ProductLed Podcast
by Wes Bush
The ProductLed Podcast is a weekly interview series with both product-led growth leaders and practitioners who have real knowledge to share on what it takes to use their product to grow a business.
Episodes
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Day 55 of 100: Halfway Through Building an AI Product
Day 55, and I'm past the halfway point of building an AI product in 100 days. This one looks back at the first 50 days and lays out the plan for the last 45. The biggest lesson so far: I thought building the app would be the hard part. It isn't. Figuring out what to build, how it fits into the...
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Day 39 of 100: I Said Ship It and Nothing Shipped
In the last episode I told you I'd hit a wall building an AI product in 100 days. This is what happened after I asked for help. So many of you replied, and a handful of those replies changed how I build. One pointed me to Matt Pocock's skills on GitHub, which exposed an embarrassing habit…
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Day 27 of 100: My AI Product Is a 4 out of 10
Day 27 of 100. There's no win to report in this one. I'm building an AI product in public, and right now I'd rate it a 4 out of 10. That's my own score, and I'm hard on it, because I advise companies on this stuff for a living. The product is simple to describe. Give it your website URL, and it...
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Day 5 of 100: Going Full Ironman Mode on an AI Product
The podcast has been quiet for a couple of months. This episode is why. I'm building a new AI-first product at ProductLed, in public, over 100 days. It launches November 19th. You'll be able to use it while I build it, and rip it apart, and I'm sharing everything as I go, including the revenue....
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From 10 Failed Products to a $1M/Month SaaS Portfolio
After spending years building unvalidated products that went nowhere, Tibo Louis-Lucas completely changed how he approached startups. In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, he shares how those early failures pushed him toward a faster, revenue-first way of building, one that eventually led to...
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No Sales Call Required: Roeland Delrue on Scaling Aikido to a Cybersecurity Unicorn
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Roeland Delrue, CEO and co-founder of Aikido Security, to unpack how the company reached $40M+ ARR in just three and a half years in one of the most sales-heavy categories in software. Roeland shares how his...
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The Mutiny Pivot: Why Jaleh Rezaei Shut Down an 8-Figure SaaS to Go All-In on AI
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Jaleh Rezaei, co-founder and CEO of Mutiny, to unpack one of the boldest founder moves you’ll hear this year. After building Mutiny into an eight-figure ARR SaaS company, Jaleh made the rare decision to shut...
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$5M ARR, 2 People, $100M Exit — How Jeremy Clarke Did it, and What He is Building Next
Most founders hear stories about lean SaaS companies and assume they are the exception. Jeremy Clarke lived one. In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Jeremy Clarke, founder of WebMerge and now the builder behind Quin, to unpack what it really…
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Built on a Crisis: Jeff Wang on Winning Enterprise AI Coding with Windsurf
When Jeff Wang stepped into the CEO role at Windsurf, it was not part of some long-term succession plan. It happened in the middle of a full-blown crisis. In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Jeff to unpack the wild chain of events that followed...
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From Feature Flags to AI Runtime Control: The LaunchDarkly Story
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Edith Harbaugh, CEO and co-founder of LaunchDarkly, the feature management platform used by more than 5,000 customers, including 25% of the Fortune 500. Edith shares how her experience at TripIt led to the...
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ChartMogul, AI, and the Future of SaaS Growth
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Nick Franklin, founder and CEO of ChartMogul, to talk about what is really happening in SaaS right now. Nick shares what he is seeing across 3,000+ subscription businesses and why the last three years have…
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The GPU Gold Rush: How Vast.ai Scaled With AI Demand
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Travis Cannell, CEO and first employee at Vast.ai, the marketplace for on-demand, low-cost GPUs powering AI workloads around the world. Travis breaks down one of the biggest shifts happening in AI right now:...
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The Evolution of Product-Led Growth: PLG x AI
In this episode, Wes breaks down how PLG is evolving and why the fastest-growing AI companies are still using it, just with a completely different playbook. The old model was about reducing friction. The new model is about doing the work for the user. It starts with Shutterstock, a company that…
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$40M+ Product-led Business: Nathan Barry on building Kit
What does it really take to build a great product? In this episode, Wes Bush talks with Nathan Barry, CEO of Kit, about how they’ve built a product-led business doing $40M+ in revenue. Nathan shares why staying close to customers matters so much, how Kit builds empathy across the team, and why…
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How Netlify Became the Obvious Choice in their Market
Chris Bach, founder of Netlify, joins Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen to break down how Netlify became a default choice in modern web development. Chris shares how Netlify started as a bet on a new web architecture that moved beyond monolithic applications, and why bottom-up adoption through...
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Conviction Over Consensus — Jason Fried On Building With A Strong Point Of View
Jason Fried, co-founder of Basecamp and HEY, joins Wes Bush to unpack what fuels his “challenger” approach to building software. Jason shares why he has been more public lately, how being an underdog shaped his motivation, and why he loves shipping products that surprise people, especially when a...
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WARP Speed: How Genspark Hit $155M ARR in 10 Months
Most AI founders race to raise capital, hire fast, and outspend the competition. Wen Sang did none of that. In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Esben Friis-Jensen sit down with Wen Sang, CEO and co-founder of Genspark, the all-in-one AI workspace that went from zero to $100M…
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Signing Up Isn’t Enough: The Missing Piece to Scaling eWebinar Beyond $2M
Getting users to sign up is the easy part. Keeping them is where most product-led companies fail. Melissa Kwan built eWebinar to $2M ARR without a single full-time employee, but not without learning this lesson the hard way. In this episode, Wes Bush, with Esben Friis-Jensen joining, sits down…
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How Chatbase Hit $8M ARR with 18 People
🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2wPyCFprChAmuXoFx2MCD6?si=-xGHpTjvTRqRthcNkN3aZw 📺 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/OfnYVZAFjSA Most SaaS founders obsess over raising capital and building large teams. Yasser Elsaid took a different approach. In this episode of the...
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Taste is the New Moat: Building in the Age of AI with Typeform’s Founder
For decades, the biggest barrier to building a SaaS company was technical talent. You needed a team of engineers to ship a world-class product. David Okuniev, Co-Founder of Typeform, believes that era is over. In this episode of the ProductLed 100 series, Wes Bush sits down with David Okuniev...
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Taste is the New Moat: Building in the Age of AI with Typeform’s Founder
For decades, the biggest barrier to building a SaaS company was technical talent. You needed a team of engineers to ship a world-class product. David Okuniev, Co-Founder of Typeform, believes that era is over. In this episode of the ProductLed 100 series, Wes Bush sits down with David Okuniev...
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The Solo-Founder Playbook: How to Run a $1M ARR SaaS with 1 person
ProductLed 100 - The Solo-Founder Playbook: How to Run a $1M ARR SaaS with 1 person Most founders believe scaling requires a massive headcount, co-founders, and VC funding. They think success is measured by the size of the team, not the efficiency of the revenue. In this episode of the ProductLed...
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Disrupting a Red Ocean: Clarify.ai’s Strategy to Beat Salesforce and HubSpot
Most founders are terrified of "Red Oceans" or markets saturated with massive competitors. They think the only way to win is to find a completely untapped "Blue Ocean." In this episode of the ProductLed 100 series, Wes Bush sits down with Patrick Thompson (CEO of Clarify.ai) and Esben…
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Become a 10x PLG Practitioner Using AI (7 Real Workflow Examples)
AI and PLG are two of the most transformative forces in SaaS today and when combined, they can multiply growth faster than any traditional go-to-market model. In this episode, Wes Bush sits down with Aakash Gupta, one of the leading voices in product and growth (and the creator of the largest...
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How One Image Change Increased Signups by 8% (The Promised Land Effect)
Most signup pages try to convince users with emotional imagery and persuasive copy. But what if the secret to higher conversions is actually showing people less—not more? In this episode clip, Will Royal, founder and CEO of Promo Tix, reveals how one counterintuitive design change led to an 8%...
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Why We're Giving Away Our $150K Playbook for Free
Most businesses guard their intellectual property like it's Fort Knox. They lock their frameworks behind paywalls, gate their methodologies, and keep their best insights for paying clients only. We're doing the exact opposite - and it's actually better for business. In this episode, Wes reveals…
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We're Giving Away Our Product-Led Playbook for Free!
In this special republished episode of the ProductLed Podcast, Wes Bush and Laura Kluz discuss The Product-Led Playbook—and announce that we're giving away the entire book for FREE on October 7, 2025. This playbook is the no-BS guide to actually implementing PLG, based on analysis of 324+...
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The Three Moats That Drive SaaS Companies to $10M+ Revenue
Most SaaS founders struggle to break through the noise in an increasingly commoditized market. With everyone using the same cold email tools and personalization tactics, how do you actually stand out and scale to eight figures? In this presentation from Founder's Summit (December 2024), Nathan...
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Inside SaaS.Group’s $80M Portfolio: Lessons from 25 acquisitions
Most SaaS founders dream of selling their company, but few understand what makes an acquisition target attractive to buyers. What if you could learn from someone who's actually on the buying side? In this episode, Tim from SaaS.Group breaks down how they've built an $80M ARR portfolio by…
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The 3X Framework: How to Unlock Your Biggest Growth Levers Every Week
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, we’re diving into the 3X Framework—a simple yet powerful process to consistently pull the right growth levers week after week. You’ll learn how to expose your biggest bottlenecks, explore high-impact solutions, and exploit the winners to drive…
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Translate Action Into Predictable Growth
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, we’re re-sharing a part of the audiobook for The ProductLed Playbook—this time diving into the Predictable Growth Process, a proven system for turning strategy into results with disciplined execution and alignment. Key highlights: 00:36 – Why execution...
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How to Execute The Product-Led Playbook
In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, we’re re-sharing a part of the audiobook for The ProductLed Playbook—a proven roadmap for installing the ProductLed system and transforming your business from scattered to streamlined. Key highlights: 01:34 – Why 97% of buyers want to try before they buy...
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How to Actually Track Your PLG Metrics (The Technical Setup Guide)
Your funnel metrics are probably wrong. Not slightly off, but completely wrong. You're using Google Analytics for everything, your visitor counts include people logging into existing accounts, and you have no idea what your real conversion rates look like. In this segment from our data workshop,...
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The 9-Step Path to $1M+ Self-Serve Revenue: Here's Exactly How We Do It
After 9 years of working with SaaS companies on product-led growth, we've tried everything - consulting, services, cohorts, bestselling books. We've seen what works, what doesn't, and what most companies get wrong. The breakthrough came when we realized something: companies don't need more…
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Hit Your Revenue Targets Predictably with the Reverse Funnel Scorecard
Most product-led businesses are tracking too many metrics and missing the ones that actually matter. They're drowning in data from 35+ different sources while their biggest growth bottlenecks go unnoticed. In this episode, Wes breaks down the exact metrics that matter for product-led growth and...
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How Jeeva AI Scaled from $0 to $5M ARR in Just 8 Months
In this episode, Wes Bush interviews Gaurav, founder and CEO of Jeeva AI, about how they pivoted from a failed startup to building a $5M ARR AI sales platform in just 8 months. Gaurav reveals their unconventional approach to being "different not better," and how they recently launched a PLG…
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How to Build a "Reverse Funnel" to Identify Your Biggest Bottleneck
Most SaaS founders track too many metrics and still have no clue where their biggest growth bottleneck actually is. They're drowning in data but starving for insights. In this episode, Wes reveals the concept of building a "reverse funnel" - a simple framework that not only identifies exactly…
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How Missive Scaled to $7.5M ARR with Just 15 People
In this episode, Wes Bush interviews Philippe-Antoine Lehoux, co-founder of Missive, about how they built a $7.5M ARR email collaboration platform with a lean team of just 15 people over 9 years. Philippe reveals their unconventional approach to growth, why they ignored startup playbooks for…
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We Fix The Free Trial You Fixed (The Real Reason PLG Fails)
Most founders think they're "doing PLG” simply by launching a free trial. They add a signup form, make pricing transparent, and let people try the product for free. Then they wonder why it's not working. But you've only scratched the surface. In this episode, Wes reveals why most PLG attempts…
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The Risk-Free PLG Blueprint: 7-Step Framework To Safely Transition from Sales-Led to Product-Led
Only 3% of B2B buyers actually want to talk to sales before trying your product. So why are most SaaS companies still structuring their entire go-to-market around that tiny minority? Because they don't know how to execute it without destroying their current revenue. It's time to flip the script.…
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Build A High-Converting Pricing Page in 15 Minutes (Using AI)
Creating effective SaaS pricing can be challenging. You need to balance customer value with business goals while making it easy for prospects to choose the right plan. In this episode, Wes reveals the exact 4-step Value Ladder Framework that top SaaS companies use to nail their pricing strategy -...
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How Ricardo Built a $270K MRR AI Headshot Business Part-Time
In this episode, Wes Bush interviews Ricardo, founder of BetterPic, about how he acquired and scaled an AI headshot company from $1.5K to $270K MRR in just 18 months - all while working part-time. Ricardo reveals his acquisition strategy, focus on fundamentals, and the three key moats that make...
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The T2D3 Formula: How PE-Backed Companies Actually Scale to $100M
After analyzing dozens of software company acquisitions and scaling teams at Microsoft, Stijn Hendrikse has identified the specific patterns that separate companies achieving explosive growth from those that plateau at $5-10M ARR. In this conversation, Wes Bush sits down with Stijn, who breaks…
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Product-Led MBA Program Announcement
In today's episode, Wes Bush announces the launch of the Product-Led MBA, a comprehensive nine-week program designed to address the massive talent shortage in product-led growth (PLG). After nine years of helping over 400 companies generate $1 billion in self-serve revenue, he identifies a…
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Showcase Your Product’s Value In 7 Minutes or Less
In today’s episode, Wes explores creating a frictionless onboarding experience to showcase a product’s value in under seven minutes. He introduces the Bowling Alley Framework, a strategy to direct users quickly to the value of a product by mapping out the shortest path—from sign-up to success.…
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ProductLed’s Origin Story (8-Year Anniversary Special)
I’m taking you behind the scenes of ProductLed’s wild 8-year ride. From our embarrassing original name (“Traffic is Currency” - yikes) to helping 400+ companies generate $1B in self-serve revenue, it’s been anything but linear. I share the honest truth about riding the pandemic capital wave, the...
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3 Low-Effort, High-Impact Tactics That Took PromoTix to $25K MRR
In this episode, Wes Bush interviews Will Royall, founder and CEO of Promotix, on how he bootstrapped a product-led ticketing platform to $25K MRR with no sales team. Will shares how he increased signups by 40% with sharper homepage copy, boosted conversions with simple UX tweaks, and why…
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Bootstrapping Senja to $800K ARR with a Co-founder I've Never Met
In this episode, Wes Bush interviews Olly Meakings, founder of Senja.io, about his journey bootstrapping a testimonial collection tool to $800K ARR. Olly reveals his unique story of building the business with a co-founder he's never met in person, their product-led approach, and how they…
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How to Infuse Onboarding Coaches into your Strategy to Accelerate Customer Success
Integrating onboarding coaching into your strategy can improve customer success and drive acquisitions, especially if your SaaS product is more complex or targets enterprise users. But where do you begin? In this episode, Wes is joined by Clate Mask, CEO and founder of Keap, to talk about the...
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How to Write the Perfect PLG Homepage in Less Than 15 Minutes (Leveraging AI)
In this episode, Wes Bush breaks down how to create a high-converting homepage for your product-led growth business. He shares a framework for crafting an irresistible offer that will help you become the obvious choice in your market and increase conversions by at least 10% with the same traffic....
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The ProductLed Podcast is a weekly interview series with both product-led growth leaders and practitioners who have real knowledge to share on what it takes to use their product to grow a business.
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