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ROLL OR DIE
by Kim Potgieter and Brent Dry
BJJ Podcast hosted by Kim Potgieter and Brent Dry bringing on guests from across the globe who have interesting life stories or journeys. Very casual and light, and easy to digest at under 45 mins per episode.
Episodes
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Roll or Die Episode #341 - Dan Schuardt
The ADCC bronze medalist returns for his fourth appearance on the show. He shares his journey of how he went from a kid in Australia to the biggest stage in grappling and achieved greatness. Dan shares how he came up with the Mussolini Lock, how John Danaher helped him face his mental demons and...
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Roll or Die Episode #340 - Myles Simpson
This week’s guest, Myles Simpson, is the owner and head grappling coach of powerhouse gym, M16 in Adelaide. Have a listen as he shares how he has helped to grow the BJJ scene both in Adelaide and across Australia. The competitions run by M16 were amongst the first in Australia to pay athletes and...
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Roll or Die Episode #339 - Ivan Donlic
No stranger to the spotlight, Ivan Donlic of Dominance joins the podcast for his second appearance (check out episode #206). He shares his experience of receiving his black belt, dives deeper into his coaching role and how he keeps evolving and loving the art of jiu jitsu. Make sure you tune in…
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Roll or Die Episode #338 - Bibi Lopez
This week’s guest holds two PHDs, alongside her Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, so has legitimately earned the right to be called Professor! She discusses her journey of moving to Australia from Brazil and how jiu jitsu has helped with so much in her life. Another female BJJ black belt guest in…
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Roll or Die Episode #337 - Ricardo Laffranchi
This week’s guest is a third degree black belt at Legacy. An active competitor and referee, we discuss all things IBJJF, how refereeing is more difficult than most people realise and how Ricardo travelled to Australia from Brazil with virtually no English. You don’t want to miss this one! P.S. We...
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Roll or Die Episode #336 - Thiago Ortiz
This week’s guest is only 21 years of age, but is wise beyond his years! Starting jiu jitsu at the age of only four, he has grown to be one of the best featherweights in the world. Listen and learn from this prodigy who has invented ways to use his brain more than his body to achieve success.…
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Roll or Die Episode #335 - Kevin Bayliss
Kevin Bayliss is a black belt under Bernie Jenkins and someone who has managed to keep training past age and injury. Take a listen to his journey and get some tips on how to flourish against younger training partners. A very fun episode! P.S. We still have a limited number of high-quality Roll or...
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Roll or Die Episode #334 - Rodney Ellis
This week’s guest is a fifth degree black belt under Nova Uniao and head coach and owner of Southern Cross Jiu Jitsu. Rodney shares stories of the beginnings of BJJ in Australia in the 1990s, travelling to train and compete in Brazil in the late 90s and early 2000s, competing against Marcelo…
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Roll or Die Episode #333 - Lachlan Dart
As someone who made it to black belt without any major injuries or surgeries, this week’s guest has certainly doled out his share of injuries to his training partners! Owner and head coach of Dominance Warrnambool, Lachie shares his journey of his start in martial arts with Muay Thai and how he...
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Roll or Die Episode #332 - Carlos Bozano
When your guest is a sixth degree black belt, has rolled with Helio Gracie and had Rickson Gracie as best man at his wedding, you know this is going to be a GREAT episode. Training jiu jitsu for 50 years, Carlos grew up with the Gracies. He shares some epic stories in this is a not-to-be missed...
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Roll or Die Episode #331 - Chris Stone
This week’s guest is well known throughout the Apple Isle. Beginning his journey in the 1990s, Chris is a pioneer of the scene and one of the nicest guys around. Take a listen as he shares how he has stayed in the game for almost 30 years and how he is passing the torch to the younger generation…
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Roll or Die Episode #330 - Mick Moloney
From the army to policing to earning his black belt, Mick’s journey shows how jiu-jitsu can become more than just a sport - it can be a lifeline. As the head coach of Mildura Martial Arts, Mick opens up about the challenges he’s faced both on and off the mats. He’s a compelling personality with a...
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Roll or Die Episode #329 - Hamish McLaren
In this episode we share the journey of Priscus Fogagnolo, a stalwart of the Australian grappling scene. Hamish is the force behind the fundraising effort to help Priscus in his journey back to health from his battle with cancer. You can help by reaching out to the Roll or Die crew, or via this...
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Roll or Die Episode #328 - Melissa Leong
This week’s guest is a celebrity, a journalist and former judge of the hit show Master Chef. She is also a three stripe white belt at Absolute MMA. She shares how it feels to start as a total beginner at something in her 40s and how she has fallen in love with jiu jitsu and the community of…
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Roll or Die Episode #327 - Murray Ballenden
Back for his second appearance on the show (check out episode #90), this week’s guest is third degree black belt and head coach at Dominance Bentleigh. He shares tales of competing at the World Championships at the Tijuca Tennis Club in Brazil, what makes the culture of Dominance and much more!...
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Roll or Die Episode #326 - Kayte Hel
This week’s guest is a newly minted black belt under Checkmat who has a story not like any other. Not many people can boast to have Michelle Nicolini as their mentor, but this is the case for this week’s guest. Taking Kayte under her wing as a white belt, Michelle has been in Kayte’s corner every...
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Roll or Die Episode #325 - Anaru Grant
This week’s guest is something of royalty in New Zealand. Hailing from a famous entertainment family, Anaru fell from a tree of high achievers. Looking to make it big in rugby league, he moved to Newcastle, Australia as a young man and cut his teeth on the scene. He decided that rugby wasn’t for...
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Roll or Die Episode #324 - Michelle Salva
This week’s guest is a black belt, a mumma and a huge supporter of women’s jiu jitsu. Reach out to her if you are or know a female who’d be interested to face her on Subversion. No stranger to the big stage, Michelle shares her experiences there, as well as much more. Check this one out! P.S. We...
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Roll or Die Episode #323 - Kate Aroa
Starting jiu jitu in 2004, Kate is the second New Zealand female to receive her black belt and has seen the grappling landscape change dramatically over that time. Kate shares her story of starting off as one of the only females on the mats, to now coaching. Don’t miss this episode to hear the...
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Roll or Die Episode #322 - Siraj Soufi
Siraj is one of the most active competitors on the Australian scene. Take a listen to gain some insight into what makes him tick. From a youngster who hated school and who had to catch public transport to and from training, and then a push bike, as his parents refused to transport him, to one of...
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Roll or Die Episode #321 - Bernie Jenkins
When a fourth degree black belt is a guest, you know it's going to be a good episode. Even more so when that guest is a black belt who started around the same time as John Will and Peter de Been. Whether it’s telling stories of those early days in Geelong, or what motivates him to keep going…
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Roll or Die Episode #320 - Chris Kahi
The man behind the Old Man Strength brand, Chris Kahi knows a thing or two about trying to keep up with the younger generation in jiu jitsu. Starting bjj in 2009 and starting OMS in 2016, Chris shares how he has built up his business to be one of the most recognised in the Australian fitness…
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Roll or Die Episode #319 - Alice Grostein
Mother, black belt, masters competitor and all round bass ass, Alice Grostein knows a thing or two about kicking goals. Starting her jiu jitsu journey in Sao Paulo, Brazil, Alice tried the gentle art in her home country in the 90s, but didn’t enjoy it and shelved it until she moved to the Gold...
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Roll or Die Episode #318 - Des Green
Des is a stalwart of the Northern Territory Brazilian Jiu Jitsu scene, and started his martial arts journey with judo while living in Ipswich, Queensland. Des talks us through the grassroots time of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in Darwin and the Top End and about the community and friendships that he’s…
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Roll or Die Episode #317 - Oli Silvestro
This week’s guest Oli comes to us hot off his open class win at Pans in the adult purple belt division. A 10-time world champion, two-time Euro champion, two-time Brasiliero champion and three-time Abu Dhabi Pro champion, Oli can certainly walk the walk. A very level head on a pair of 18-year-old...
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Roll or Die Episode #316 - Juzzy Robertson
One of the most exciting purple belts on the Australian scene is 21-year-old Justin “Juzzy” Robertson. With an explosive, dynamic style, Juzzy shares his story of how he began in the kids’ program at Dominance and how he wishes to take his jiu jitsu all the way to the highest stage in the world....
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Roll or Die Episode #315 - Josh Allsopp
One of the most successful competitors on the Australian scene joins us this week to share his story. Josh tells us how he began his journey as a professional gamer and it wasn’t until he won tickets to watch the UFC live that he discovered jiu jitsu. Having a natural talent to absorb information...
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Roll or Die Episode #314 - Mitch Langman
This week’s guest is head coach and owner of Dark Carnival in Canberra. In today’s episode, he shares his journey and the importance of having technical knowledge, as well as rolling ability, what it’s like to have a target on your back and his passion behind the Paragon Project - an initiative...
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Roll or Die Episode #313 - Dan Cherubin
One of the most outspoken people in the Australian jiu jitsu scene, who better than Dan Cherubin to discuss the current state of affairs in the jiu jitsu world. Dan doesn’t hold back as he discusses how behaviour can become cult-like in some clubs, how to grow jiu jitsu in a healthy way and why…
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Roll or Die Episode #312 - Murat Besnek
Do you ever feel like you're just not ‘getting there’ in your Jiu Jitsu journey? Guess what - even the best have moments of doubt. ✨ Murat’s story proves that patience and routine turn beginners into black belts. From basketball to academia to training at the top — he’s mastered focus…
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Roll or Die Episode #311 - Chris Chalmers
This week’s guest was John Will’s first brown belt in 1997 and may hold the Australian record for the longest time at brown belt, before he received his black in 2023. If you enjoy the stories from back in the day, you don’t want to miss this episode. From an unsanctioned MMA bout on the roof of...
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Roll or Die Episode #310 - Ellen Thompson
This week’s guest lives and breathes jiu jitsu. One of the most active competitors on the scene, Ellen has reached the podium multiple times at the highest level. In this episode, she shares some of the stories behind her successes and how she no longer equates her self worth with her tournament...
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Roll or Die Episode #309 - Fabio Glazer
When a fourth degree black belt graces our podcast, you know it’s going to be a good one. Get yourself comfortable to listen to stories of someone with 30 years of jiu jitsu experience. Starting his journey at a relatively late age of 30in Sao Paulo, Fabio moved to Sydney, then the Gold Coast and...
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Roll or Die Episode #308 - Jesse-James Parr
With a surname like Parr, this week’s guest is no stranger to the fight scene. Starting fighting as a toddler, Jesse has not looked back. This 17 year-old has maturity beyond his years and has a never-give-up attitude. Make sure you tune in to hear how he has gained so much from jiu jitsu and…
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Roll or Die Episode #307 - Tito Carle
Fresh off his win at FFC10, this week’s guest is no stranger to the grind. Take a listen to this week’s guest who shares candidly how his improved self-belief has helped him achieve so much recently. After falling short previously, last year Tito learned to fully believe in himself to win ADCC...
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Roll or Die Episode #306 - Coralie Barton
Newly minted black belt Coralie shares her embattled story of her journey in jiu jitsu. In her down-to-earth way, she shares her thoughts on many aspects of jiu jitsu and how her many injuries helped her advancement and forced her to work on other areas of her game. As a new black belt, she feels...
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Roll or Die Episode #305 - Antonio Martins
Back for another appearance on the show, Antonio brings his energetic delivery that will have you falling off your chair with laughter. Antonio discusses why he always supports the IBJJF and his belief that the IBJJF is like the union for jiu jitsu. We discuss how things have changed since the…
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Roll or Die Episode #304 - Ari Burkhart
Ari has one of the most interesting journeys of any of our previous guests. Starting off with fencing, then calisthenics, Ari developed a love of grappling, initially Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and then freestyle wrestling. Moving to Australia from the US as a brown belt, Ari recognised the importance…
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Roll or Die Episode #303 - Faz Logan & Lee Ting
Faz Logan is the 2025 Grand Slam winner, winning Europeans, Pans, Brasilieros, Asian Open and World Masters at Masters 5 brown belt, being the first and only Australian to do so. Lee Ting is the head coach of Immersion Ringwood who joined him at World Masters and took home gold in the masters 3...
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Roll or Die Episode #302 - Ivo Dos Santos
Ivo is a fourth degree judo black belt who represented Australia at the 2012 London Olympics and is the owner and coach of Senshi in the northern suburbs of Melbourne. He moved to Australia from Portugal and started judo with his Dad and sister. They both stopped, but Ivo kept going. He had a…
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Roll or Die Episode #301 - Hope Tabak
Join us as we chat with Hope Tabak, seasoned competitor, coach and mother as she drops huge knowledge for our listeners. Hope shares tips on how to train in a way that benefits everyone, whether you are a higher rank, bigger person or otherwise. She discusses how to find skills to work on, via...
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Roll or Die Episode #300 - Robert Drysdale
To mark our 300th episode, the RoD team have brought one of the biggest names in jiu jitsu to share the occasion. In this episode, Robert shares candidly his sometimes polarising opinions on the state of the scene today. As a competitor, coach and all round genuine guy, the nuggets of wisdom that...
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Roll or Die Episode #299 - Elvis Sinosic
Back for a second appearance on the podcast, the King shares more wisdom with our listeners. Elvis shares how to stay on the mats for longer. He now keeps his BJJ more playful. Elvis discusses the importance of a good diet and ensuring diet has enough protein, focusing on whole foods. Range of...
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Roll or Die Episode #298 - Anthony Perosh
Anthony Perosh’s journey in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a testament to the power of perseverance, mentorship, and self-reflection. His insights remind us that martial arts is not just about physical prowess but also about mental fortitude and continuous growth. For anyone embarking on their BJJ…
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Roll or Die Episode #297 - Brodie Greco
This week’s guest is an Absolute brown belt, who has made a name for himself competing and training around the world. Don’t miss this episode, as he very candidly shares insights into what it’s like to train and compete internationally at the highest level. Learn how Brodie manages to live in the...
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Roll or Die Episode #296 - Dave Hart
Back for his third appearance on the show (check out episodes #15 and #99), Dave Hart covers some of the inside information about what makes Dominance so successful as a club. He talks about how his team structures classes, how all students are working towards a shared goal and how he has built a...
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Roll or Die Episode #295 - House of Water Jiu Jitsu
This week’s guests are the co-owners of a brand-new academy on the NSW Central Coast in Long Jetty. Take a listen to how the persistence and resilience they learnt on the mats transferred across to the set up of their gym. Blending a unique style, being a combination of ecological and technical,...
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Roll or Die Episode #294 - Bob Frias
Another repeat guest (check out episode #84), Bob Frias is a super active competitor, who competes throughout the world on the biggest stages. In today’s episode he explains why he prefers the AJP Tour tournaments to the IBJJF, how he prepares for comps and super fights and why his biggest...
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Roll or Die Episode #293 - Tina West
This week’s guest is a master class in resilience. Starting her jiu jitsu journey at Immersion Glen Waverley, “Tiny” Tina West was fortunate to receive a grounding in the fundamentals from “Mini” Dave Marinakis, one of the best in Australia. She moved to Rochester in regional Victoria as a blue...
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Roll or Die Episode #292 - Steven Jurcec
This is one episode you don’t want to miss. Whether it’s learning about how this week’s guest lost 40kg over a period of about nine months, or how he was promoted to his blue belt in the car park of the fruit shop where he worked, this is a very special episode. Steven shares his tips around how…
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BJJ Podcast hosted by Kim Potgieter and Brent Dry bringing on guests from across the globe who have interesting life stories or journeys. Very casual and light, and easy to digest at under 45 mins per episode.
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