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The Change Room with Rod & Lesley
by TheChangeRoomwithRodandLesley
Welcome to The Change Room with Rod & Lesley where we talk about how people experience and navigate through change.
Episodes
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S4-11 - Grounding yourself to reset your mindset
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about taking a beat. Taking a breath. Counting to three. What you can and should do to regularly pause and reset your mindset when going from one thing to the next - AND - when going into something that is a little nerve inducing. Walk through the metaphorical...
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S4-10 - Our take on Tools by Stutz
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about the book 'The Tools' by Phil Stutz and Barry Michaels. Despite Lesley's misgivings, Rod spent some time last year reading this book following a netflix sesh where he watched the biography 'Stutz'. Being the researcher for this episode, Rod takes us…
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S4-09 - The mind-body connection
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk more about reframing examples - this time exploring the interconnection between the mind - the brain - and the body. You know when you are thinking about something, all of a sudden you starting seeing examples of it everywhere? Well, this is what is happening...
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S4-08 - Reframing (Part 2)
In this episode, Rod and Lesley come back to the topic of reframing and talk about how important it is. Rod suggests that it is so powerful, the skill should be part of school curriculum (are you listening people who shape school curriculum!). Lesley nicely ties it into how we can use reframing…
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S4-07 - Giving yourself some grace through the ups and downs of change
In this episode, Lesley gets Rod's reaction to something she has been thinking about - giving ourselves some grace as we are trying to change, and find it isn't a straight path.
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S4-06 - Reframing is a powerful cosmic force (Part 1)
In this episode, Rod and Lesley bring in the powerful concept of reframing as they build on the previous episodes this season which talked about emotions and how the universe is all about change. They consider the quantum theory concept we heard about the importance of movement, action, and...
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S4-05 - To be one with the Universe is to change (Part 2)
In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue their discussion inspired by theoretical physicist Carol Rovelli (wiki bio). The revelation is that the 'grammar of thinking about the world is change, not of permanence. Not of being but of becoming. The world is not a collection of things; it is a...
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S4-04 - Time to change your view of time (Part 1)
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the realm of quantum physics and seek to understand the concept of time. Yes, this does relate to understanding change. Rod and Lesley are reading/listening to a book by Carlo Rovelli called 'The Order of Time'. Carlo is a 'specialist in quantum gravity...
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S4-03 - More on learning about yourself through learning about your emotional side
In this episode, Rod and Lesley take care of some unfinished business. Last week's discussion on emotions wasn't quite complete, and then the superbowl happened, giving a great example of emotions on display. No, this isn't some click bait reference to Rod's favourite power pop/football couple....
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S4-02 - More on how we've changed - learning how to be with our emotions
In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue the conversation about what they've learned over the past year. This time it is more about what Rod learned about how he can be emotional. This type of self discovery (and acceptance) doesn't come by accident as you'll here. It involves getting into the...
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S4-01 - Did you miss us?
In this episode, Rod and Lesley return! Contrary to news otherwise, the podcast is not retired in the sunset of being a covid era hobby. They are back after almost eight months off and ready to talk once again about Change. As they get back to it, you hear the rust that needs to be worked through...
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S3-11 - The importance of having friends to talk to....(A love letter to Ted Lasso)
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the importance of having close friends to talk to - at work. To drive home the point, they use the popular Apple TV+ show Ted Lasso as their case study. Rod starts by stating his theory, that the TV show eerily mirror this Podcast. Ted Lasso started in...
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S3-10 - Into the mystic: More interpretations of the subconscious
In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up from where they left off and continue to talk about Carl Jung's ideas. This time, they into the mystical subconscious. They talk about energy impulses that some think connect the us to the universe. This is the kind of topic that Rod probably wouldn't have...
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S3-09 - Is it even possible to change oneself? Can you help us Carl Jung?
In this episode, Rod and Lesley go way back. They go to what could the origin story question 'can we change?' and reach back a 100 years to Carl Jung for help in answering the question. This topic was inspired from a book Rod is reading now called "Midlife : humanity's secret weapon" by Andrew...
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S3-08 - Making decisions, picking a path, changes how you think
In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up after a long break for the podcast with a topic they have discussed before - decision making. While Lesley remains confident in her decisive decision making approach, Rod has evolved. He explains what it feels like for someone who liked to leave their…
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S3-07 - New Year’s resolution themes vs goals
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk new year's resolutions and all things that make us not like them. The shift the focus on accepting best efforts versus hard smart goals. There is discussion about new year's reflections on do betters; all with a desire to avoid making ourselves feel worse when...
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S3-06 - Mulling over self determination theory
In this episode, Rod and Lesley take in something called, 'self-determination theory'. Rod did some deep research and set the stage by explaining the theory and Lesley brought it to life with some real life reactions and examples. For more of your own research, go to the source and check out this...
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S3-05 - Politeness and finding your voice
In this episode, Rod and Lesley take inspiration from Geena Davis' biography (Dying of Politeness) to discuss what it is like to be polite and unimposing in the world we live in. They wonder about people who aren't absorbed in worrying whether they have been impolite. Rod hasn't read the book in...
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S3-04 - Choosing between right and happy
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about the times when it is good to choose happy over right. Right being the thing that we are sure is true and that needs to be imparted on those around us. As Lesley explains to Rod, sometimes, it is better to choose a good relationship than the need to be…
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S3-03 - Return to office, part 2
In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue the conversation on return to office. This time, they take the insights to a new level and realize some of the big barriers to getting people in the routine of returning to the office - one gem, too many decisions to make each day when switching up…
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S3-02 - Returning to old habits - like going into the office
In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue with the theme of returning, and dive into the return to office and the future of work after the big, long, scary pandemic called COVID. Thinking about the future of work they see the Jetsons - and for those wondering what the theme song was, here it is -...
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S3-01 - Getting back into the swing of things
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the age old challenge of - getting back into the swing of things. Yes, they took the summer off. Yes, they 'relaxed', and 'recharged', and forgot all about podcasting. Getting back into the routine is hard, and this is a common challenge for anyone who is...
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S3-Intro - The Change Room is back for season 3
We're back! It was a long break for us but good to take the summer off and come back recharged. More episodes to come!
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S2-23 - Breathing training from Lesley
In this episode, Lesley takes the lead and walks Rod, and you listeners, through breathing training. Inhale 1 - 2 - 3; hold 1 - 2 - 3; exhale 1 - 2 - 3.... Rod asks the newbie questions, following Lesley's expert guidance to a calmer amygdala. A note to our faithful listeners... Rod and Lesley…
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S2-22 - From cognitive dissonance to harmonic resonance
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dig deep into the vault of 1950s psychology experiments to talk about Cognitive Dissonance. This is a term is used to describe the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes. Rod and Lesley relate real examples of when...
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S2-21 - Talking biases
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about their favourite biases. No, ones they like that we have, silly. The ones they think are worth knowing more about so we can start to overcome them. They discuss biases in recognition of March 8 and international women's day. The conversation gets into...
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S2-20 - Sometimes the easy to believe stuff, is just plain misleading
In this episode, Rod and Lesley discuss the change adoption curve (The innovation adoption curve). This is part two of two in the mini series that takes on well known models and helps you know their misinterpretations. The upside-down-U-bell-shaped curve that is taught ubiquitously through many...
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S2-19 - Is it the 80/20 rule or the 20/80 rule?
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about something we all thought we knew - but were (mostly) wrong! Many of us have heard about the 80/20 rule. But, as Lesley will explain, it is really the 20/80 rule. And the origin was based on the idea that 20 percent effort leads to 80 percent of the...
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S2-18 - Forgiving yourself and others
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the little bit messy conversation on forgiveness. Sharing experience that can help the process of forgiving others to move on from the negative shackles. As well as recognizing the importance of forgiving yourself when occasion arises.
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S2-17 - Projecting your projections
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about projections. Not financial projections, but the psychological kind. In particular, sub-conscious projections that we humans put onto interpreting the intent, motivations, and behaviours of others. This wide ranging and open conversation is filled with...
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S2-16 - How to go from confident decision making to self-doubt in one easy step
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into what it is like when you challenge your assumptions. Lesley is destabilized and Rod does a little happy dance at her expense. Is he really that mean? No, it was all for show. The topic this week is based on Lesley's BFF Adam Grant's book think again…
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S2-15 - What is more Canadian than...’Sorry’ ?
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into a slice of Canadiana...saying sorry. Apologizing for pretty much anything is a common habit many of us have, and Rod is taking aim at it. While it might be polite, it can get your mind reacting to things that don't deserve the attention, you can give an...
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S2-14 - Choosing optimism
In this episode, Rod and Lesley realize they aren't done yet with dealing with the psychology of the pandemic. They find themselves in another 'reflection' of pandemic now, and what is ahead. This discussion riffs off of an idea around informed optimism (from Adam Grant) that these two turn into...
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S2-13 - Ending the year like it started, finding joy in the little things
In this episode, Rod and Lesley reflect on the year and how we find ourselves in a similar place as we started the year - facing a Covid lockdown. It is Lesley's turn to bring the story and she shares how a potential frustrating anger producing scenario was switched by focusing on the little...
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S2-12 - The questions you ask, shape your mindset
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk questions. After gushing over fandom of audiobook narrators, Rod shares a recent discovery - Change your questions, Change your life: by Marilee Adams. This book was almost ignored due to the cheesy overpromising awesomeness used in the intro, but it turned…
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S2-11 - The space between Tiger and Eeyore
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about Winnie the Pooh. Using the example of positive Tiger, and negative Eeyore, they talk about the grey area in between. When is positivity toxic, what you can do when the negativity is dragging you down. Rod and Lesley dive into deep and bring it back at…
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S2-10 - The problem with round numbers
In this episode, Rod and Lesley explore what Rod coined as 'the law of round numbers'. Round numbers can be a good thing to give you something to strive for, but they should never be taken literally, and they discuss common pitfalls when that happens.
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S2-09 - Rules to live by
In this episode, Rod and Lesley share their version of 'rules to live by'. Everyone and their uncle has published a set of rules to live by, and these two didn't want to let that go without a little critique, and their sharing their own version. Some gems on their very short list - Get enough...
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S2-08 - The spectre of ...duh duh duuuuun
In this episode, Rod and Lesley time warp themselves back a couple of weeks to halloween and get a little scary creepy. They talk about how the spectre of death helps bring focus to living your life. Duh duh duuuuun. Lesley expands on what was putting her into a funk last week and that leads them...
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S2-07 - When stresses collide and you get in a funk
In this episode, Rod and Lesley put Lesley under the microscope. What is up with her this week that she has doubt and difficultly making a decision? The timely situation becomes a good reminder of how to take in, and except the moments in life that put you off your game...with the goal that they...
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S2-06 - Halloween edition - Scary Covid Part 2
In this episode, Rod and Lesley don't even bother remarking 'can you believe we have had two COVID tainted halloweens?'. Yes, there is nothing scarier to confront than Covid once again. Last year, they were wound up about different approaches to managing the pandemic, and this year, ...well…
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S2-05 - Learning to let go as you change
In this episode, Rod and Lesley share inspiration from a thought leader they both love - Seth Godin. They have gushed over Seth before, and his idea this time was "what will you leave behind". Seth's advice falls into the camp of, meaningful and ambiguous enough that you can read into what you...
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S2-04 - The campsite rule: Leave people better than you found them
In this episode, Rod and Lesley propose a new rule to live by - the campsite rule. In a nutshell, the campsite rule that Lesley knows is from relationship advice podcaster/blogger Dan Savage. Leave your romantic partners better or the same when you leave them as they were when you found them....
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S2-03 - Reconcili-action. Part 2 Interview with Paul Haigh to mark September 30th Truth and Reconciliation Day
In this episode, Rod and Lesley invite Paul Haigh back for a part 2 interview to discuss change in the context of truth and reconciliation in Canada. Or as Paul suggested, we think of reconcili-action. Another engaging and educating discussion to better understand the indigenous experience…
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S2-02 - Learning about the 94 calls to action
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about Truth and Reconciliation and spend their time to learn more about the 94 calls to action. They share the humility of ignorance and touch on a few of the calls to action. Take the time to explore them yourselves, and be ready to be shocked about how much...
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S2-01 - Holding on to the vacation dreams of change
In this episode, Rod and Lesley are back for season 2! They reflect on their month off and share how a good vacation is a motivator for change. Perhaps more powerful than new years resolutions! Listen to hear vacation reflection stories and tips on how to keep the drive for change alive - post...
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S1-51 - Season 1 finale, preview to season 2
In this episode, Rod and Lesley reflect on their first season of 'The Change Room' and look forward to season 2. We'd love to hear your suggestions around what we are doing to do more of next year. You'll have to listen to learn more.
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S1-50 - Spock vs Emotions - the controversy continues
In this episode, Rod champions the role of rational argument, striking back after last episode where the elephant was getting all the attention versus the rider. Rod deftly brings up solid facts to show how the rational approach is how minds can be changed. Lesley, calmly champions the power of...
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S1-49 - The Elephant and the rider
In this episode, Rod and Lesley explore the concept of the elephant and the rider that was popularized by Chip and Dan Heath and developed by Jonathan Haigt. The Elephant is your emotions, and the rider is your logic brain that tries to get the big elephant of emotions. Good luck with that. As...
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S1-48 - REPLAY - The 5% Better rule to making change happen
It is a long weekend and we are taking the weekend. This time, not celebrating Canada Day as much as reflecting more on Indigenous History. This episode is a replay of Episode 19 - The 5% Better rule for making change happen In this episode, Rod and Lesley build on the conversation last week…
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Welcome to The Change Room with Rod & Lesley where we talk about how people experience and navigate through change.
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