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The Chaotic Middle
by Chaos Coordination LLC
Welcome to The Chaotic Middle, the podcast for the women who are doing it all and refusing to apologize for the mess along the way.Each episode brings you honest conversations with women who are in the thick of it – the wins, the breakdowns, the pivots, and the messy middle moments that don't make it to the highlight reel. You'll hear lessons learned from women who've figured out how to balance businesses, babies, and everything in between, and you'll walk away with practical strategies, fresh perspectives, and the reminder that you're not alone in the chaos.Whether you're a solopreneur juggling client calls and diaper changes, a founder scaling your team while managing school drop-offs, or just trying to figure out how to make it all work without losing yourself in the process, The Chaotic Middle is your permission slip to embrace the
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Approaching Wealth Building Differently with Juliana Alcantara
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Juliana Alcantara, founder of Your Financial Health Coach, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Juliana shares how she transitioned from corporate accounting to family financial coaching, emphasizing intentional wealth building, and how her heart lies in helping families prepare for maternity leave and manage complex debt. This refreshing and candid conversation reframes financial planning in a more approachable and less stressful way. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW JULIANA → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Navigating Life and Business with ADHD with Jessica Covington
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Jessica Covington, the founder of Fitology and a Master Certified ADHD coach, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. In her coaching practice, Jessica works with women to reduce the shame and stigma surrounding ADHD. Armed with years of experience and a certification list a mile long, Jessica shares ways to navigate a diagnosis and enjoy life where your ADHD is simply a difference, not a disorder. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW JESSICA → Website → Instagram → Facebook → LinkedIn → Medium WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Hills I Will Die On: Mindset Tips from a Successful Woman Entrepreneur
In this episode, host Amanda Russell shares some of her non-negotiable beliefs about being a mom, wife, and entrepreneur. She also shares a pretty exciting announcement! If you’ve been looking for a raw, unfiltered look at the ups and downs of being a woman in the world of small business, this one is for you. Amanda will be back next week with another candid conversation with an inspiring woman in business, so be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast wherever you listen to podcasts! WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Embracing Different Paths: Teen Mom to CEO with Tabitha DeSeranno
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Tabitha DeSeranno, founder of Spark & Soul Design Studio, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Tabitha shared her non-linear career path to entrepreneurship, including the challenges of becoming a teen mom, navigating multiple career pivots, and how an online search for remote work led her to becoming an “accidental CEO.” If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW TABITHA → Website → Instagram → Facebook → LinkedIn WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Telling the Stories That Matter: A Conversation with Screenwriter & Producer Madeline Rooks
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Madeline Rooks, founder of Rookie Productions, a woman‑owned indie production company, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Madeline shared how she became a filmmaker by moving to California after growing up on the East Coast. Madeline and Amanda got into everything from why film is an important storytelling medium to a discussion of the value of human artistry versus the convenience of AI. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW Madeline → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Embracing Systems to Streamline Social Media Marketing with Caitlin Wuethrich
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Caitlin Wuethrich, owner of Caitlin Wuethrich Media, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Caitlin is a social media marketer and agency owner who focuses on working with passion-driven entrepreneurs and nonprofits. Through her strategy sessions, monthly retainers, and customized template options, Caitlin and her team help business owners understand that the right systems can streamline everything, including showing up on social media. In addition to her business, Caitlin is also a wife and mother who is very active in her local community. As they chatted, Caitlin and Amanda shared the nonnegotiables for their home lives that make marriage and motherhood work. = If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW CAITLIN → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Breaking Free of Grind Culture with Angie Luo
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Angie Luo, owner of Mirale Collective, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Angie calls herself a Regenerative Culture Doula, and works with BIPOC-led nonprofits and social impact organizations to help them break out of the stereotypical grind culture. Through her fractional COO services and organizational transformation consulting, she helps organizations build new work cultures that benefit every team member. During the conversation, Angie detailed the increase in women starting businesses due to caregiving responsibilities and the inflexibility of traditional workplaces, leading to a discussion of the problems with grind culture throughout US history. This conversation was an eye-opening look at how detrimental grind culture really is, especially to women in the workplace. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW ANGIE → Website → LinkedIn → @mirale_coaching (YouTube, Tik Tok, Reddit) WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Becoming an Event Operations Unicorn with Kesha Moore
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Kesha Moore, an Event Operations Unicorn and owner of Rolling with Keke, a full-lifecycle meeting and event operations management company. Kesha and Amanda discussed balancing motherhood and her career using "the three C's: Coffee, Christ, and a little bit of cussing.” Kesha also shared more about the importance of mentorship for Black women in the hospitality industry, a cause she supports through her involvement with The Annabelle Project and Beyond the Ballroom. This episode is full of great advice for new mothers, those balancing disability challenges with a fast-paced life, and anyone who needs a little laugh in the middle of a stressful day. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW KESHA → LinkedIn → Website WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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How to Grow Your Business Without Social Media: 7 Strategies That Actually Work
In this month’s solo episode, host Amanda Russell shares her plans to scale back on social media and what she’s investing in instead. These 7 strategies will help her get off the social media hamster wheel, avoid burnout, and still grow her business. If you’re a business owner who is sick of changing trending sounds or spending all day on Instagram, this episode is for you! Amanda will be back next week with another candid conversation with an inspiring woman in business, so be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast wherever you listen to podcasts! WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Aligning Your Life and Your Core Values with Shannon Logan
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Shannon Logan, the executive coach behind The Whole Woman Reset. Shannon works with women entrepreneurs and small business owners who are facing health, mindset, and overall fulfillment challenges. Amanda and Shannon discussed the fast pace of modern society, particularly for mothers. Listen in as Shannon shares her career evolution from fitness to executive coaching, focusing on the unique challenges of CEO moms who need personal alignment to prevent burnout. If you are a mom facing burnout and a jam-packed calendar, this is an episode for you! If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW SHANNON → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Breaking Up With Self-Sabotage and Rewriting the Story with Giorgia G.
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Giorgia G., a success coach, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Listen in as they discuss strategies for high-achieving mothers to overcome self-sabotage, achieve fulfillment without burnout, and release mom guilt by demonstrating that personal achievement benefits their children. Giorgia and Amanda discussed defining personal success against internal criteria rather than external expectations, shifting the focus from constantly proving oneself to prioritizing high-impact professional activities, and the importance of implementing boundaries, addressing basic needs, and taking risks to prevent burnout. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW GIORGIA → Website → LinkedIn WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Rebuilding an In-Person Business After a Multi-State Move with Ryann Doria
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Ryann Doria, owner of Ryann Kristena Events, to discuss the transition from a background in theater to specializing in alternative and non-traditional wedding planning. Ryann discusses how she has adjusted her business expectations after moving from Orange County, California, to Salt Lake City, Utah. They also discuss the challenges of rebuilding an in-person business after relocating to a new state with a new market and a new demographic. In addition to professional talk, Ryann and Amanda discuss the importance of involving their children in the business to expose them to alternative career paths and advise new mothers to "embrace the chaos". If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW RYANN → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Sharing Tools and Resources for Freelancers and Entrepreneurs
In this month’s solo episode, host Amanda Russell discusses successfully transitioning from a virtual assistant into a specialized copywriting firm over 7 years. She also gets into tools and communities that support her business, including CRM systems, AI tools, and tips on how to improve your business’s copywriting, content strategy, and more. If you’re a small business owner, entrepreneur, or freelancer who is looking to improve your tech stack or find new ways to streamline your business, this is a must-listen! Amanda will be back next week with another candid conversation with an inspiring woman in business, so be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast wherever you listen to podcasts! WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Resources Amanda mentions → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Using Life Experiences to Empower the Next Generation with Nina Echevarria
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Nina Echevarria, CEO and founder of Millie Micah Design Studio, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Nina and Amanda discuss Nina’s mission to create a creative environment for young people and teach them the full life cycle of fashion design, focusing on real-world business skills and adapting teaching methods to the current generation. Nina also discusses the challenges she has faced as a woman in a male-dominated industry and as a young working parent, and how that has led her to share her knowledge and mentorship with the children of New York City. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW NINA → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Regulating Our Nervous Systems with Sarah Avilla
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Sarah Avilla, EFT tapping practitioner and integrated health coach, to The Chaotic Middle podcast. In addition to discussing the importance of emotional self-regulation in parenting, Sarah shares some great tips on using EFT as a stress-reduction and emotional-regulation technique. In the conversation, Sarah shares how her own practice has led her to helping her son co-regulate, as well as how being a business owner and an EFT practitioner corresponds with being a mom. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW SARAH → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Building a Life-First Biz Without Muting Motherhood with Rebecca Reardon
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Rebecca Reardon to The Chaotic Middle podcast, who manages a corporate job, a virtual assistant business, and is a mother to two young children. Listen in as Amanda and Rebecca chat about how to build a "life first biz without muting motherhood.” Rebecca shares about how her goal to gain more time with her children requires her to focus on intentional capacity management, using work time after the children are asleep, and acknowledging that parents have a different 24 hours in a day. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW REBECCA → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Blogging for Your Small Business
In this month’s solo episode, host Amanda Russell discusses what she’s learned since starting her own business and how it’s been the best personal and professional decision she’s ever made. She also gets into how businesses can find success with blogging and how to use long-form content for strategic and sustainable growth. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Blog about does your website need a blog? → Blog to increase website traffic → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Growing a Brand with Growing Kids with Keri Szachacz
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Keri Szachacz to The Chaotic Middle podcast to discuss Keri’s apparel company for dancers, cheerleaders, and baton twirlers, Showstopping Designs, and her experience working from home since 2017. Listen in as Keri and Amanda discuss the challenges of balancing a work-from-home business with raising growing children, prioritizing emotional awareness, and how the pandemic brought more grace to working parents. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW Keri → Website → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Organizing Operations and Overcoming Burnout with Amariah Murdock
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Amariah Murdock to The Chaotic Middle podcast. Amariah is the owner of multiple businesses, including Joyride Rentals Southern Utah, infinitexec, and the Momreneurs Making Moves podcast, which focuses on navigating "babies, business, and boundaries." Amariah shared that a slow season does not define success, stressing the importance of finding connection to combat isolation, prioritizing recharging to prevent guaranteed burnout, and setting necessary boundaries for a sustainable life. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! Groups Amariah mentions: Marshall Stern Working Moms FOLLOW AMARIAH → Website → Facebook → Instagram → LinkedIn → YouTube WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Using Emotional Intelligence, Empathy, and Systems as Super Powers with Kelly Velasquez
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Kelly Velasquez to The Chaotic Middle podcast to discuss her decision to transition from a 12-year corporate career, which was prompted by burnout, a toxic work environment, and a surprise pregnancy. Kelly Velasquez shared a simplified journaling habit and her "rest versus resistance" experiment, which helps her differentiate between genuine tiredness and procrastination to find "flow," which is integral to her business focus on efficient systems connecting career, life, and tech. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW KELLY → Website → Substack WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Designing a Flexible Schedule & Navigating the Loneliness of Motherhood with Julia Bocchese
In this episode, host Amanda Russell welcomes Julia Bocchese, an SEO, Pinterest, and AI search strategist and the founder of Julia Renee Consulting, to the Chaotic Middle podcast to discuss her background, business strategies, and entrepreneurial journey. Julia Bocchese shared her methods for managing a packed schedule through consistent childcare and team outsourcing, emphasizing the importance of setting strict client boundaries through contracts and detailed proposals, and using Zoom for calls to avoid sharing personal contact information. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW JULIA → Website → Instagram → LinkedIn WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Telling Your Story to Build Your Brand with Amanda Russell
In this episode, host Amanda Russell sits down alone to recap the first month of The Chaotic Middle episodes and share what she’s learned in the short two months since she started interviewing guests. In the episode, she shares which of her blog posts has gotten the most traffic and how allowing one person’s admission to be your permission to let go, too. Listen in as she talks about how embracing all of those chaotic, messy parts could actually lead to something beautiful – both in business and in life. If you enjoy this episode, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! And if you hate this episode, don’t worry! Amanda will be back next week with another inspiring interview with a fellow mom in business who is navigating her own chaotic middle. WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Using Your Strengths to Build a Strong Community with Heidy De La Cruz
In this episode, host Amanda Russell sits down with Heidy De La Cruz, a content creator, podcast coach, mom of 2, and host of the award-winning podcast "The American Dream Through the Eyes of Immigrants.” Heidy De La Cruz shared insights into balancing her 9-to-5 job, content creation, and coaching business with motherhood, attributing her success to a flexible work schedule, divine strength, and her husband's strong support. Listen in as Amanda and Heidy discuss the importance of a strong community, a solid partnership, and shedding traditional societal pressures. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW HEIDY → The American Dream in the Eyes of Immigrants Podcast → Instagram WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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Embracing the Bravery to Create a Magical Life with Amy Pierre-Russo
In this episode, host Amanda Russell sits down with Amy Pierre Russo to discuss Amy's coaching practice, which focuses on shifting from work-life balance to work-life harmony and integration. Amy Pierre Russo, whose background is in HR, emphasized the need for working mothers to have space, support, and resources, noting that clients often struggle with the pressure of "balance" and benefit from community to disrupt the pay and support gaps. Amanda and Amy’s discussion included the importance of setting default boundaries proactively, establishing intentional self-care, and addressing the "power through attitude" to ensure efforts align with personal goals rather than solely fulfilling others' needs. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW AMY → LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachingwamy/ → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachingw_amy/ → Links to FREE resources: https://coachingwamy.start.page WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website: https://chaoscoordinationllc.com → LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-courtney-russell/ → Threads: https://www.threads.com/@chaoscoordinationllc → Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chaoscoordinationllc → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chaoscoordinationllc
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Knowing Your Capacity & Adjusting Your Expectations with Katie Kastner
In this episode, host Amanda Russell sits down with content writer and mom of 2, Katie Kastner, to discuss how Katie's hope to produce content that counters the prevalence of too many men with microphones was a catalyst for the creation of The Chaotic Middle. Katie details the pivot of "The Haven" from a community for business-owning mothers to one for creative women entrepreneurs, expressing excitement about the business alignment and the nearly 40 women on the waiting list. Hear about Katie’s “I don’t know era” and how the unexpected path of stay-at-home motherhood led to an identity crisis, emphasizing the importance of pursuing personal fulfillment and knowing one's capacity when starting a business as a new mother. If you enjoy this candid conversation, be sure to subscribe to The Chaotic Middle podcast for more conversations with moms living life in the chaotic middle! FOLLOW KATIE → Threads → TikTok WHERE TO FIND AMANDA → Website → LinkedIn → Threads → Facebook → Instagram
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The Chaotic Middle Podcast
Ever feel like you're juggling a zillion things while someone hands you a baby and asks for a business plan? Yeah, me too. I'm Amanda Russell, the writer and content strategist behind Chaos Coordination, and welcome to The Chaotic Middle—the podcast for women who are balancing businesses, babies, and everything in between.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to The Chaotic Middle, the podcast for the women who are doing it all and refusing to apologize for the mess along the way.Each episode brings you honest conversations with women who are in the thick of it – the wins, the breakdowns, the pivots, and the messy middle moments that don't make it to the highlight reel. You'll hear lessons learned from women who've figured out how to balance businesses, babies, and everything in between, and you'll walk away with practical strategies, fresh perspectives, and the reminder that you're not alone in the chaos.Whether you're a solopreneur juggling client calls and diaper changes, a founder scaling your team while managing school drop-offs, or just trying to figure out how to make it all work without losing yourself in the process, The Chaotic Middle is your permission slip to embrace the
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