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The Oikonomiks podcast
by Wayne Park
The science of ministry, work, administration, and the summing up of everything
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5 Ways to Activate Businesspeople & Professionals into Mission (and Gain Ministry Partners Along the Way!)
1. THIS BURGEONING FAITH & WORK MOVEMENT (the history)- Max Weber, The Protestant Ethic (ca 1905)- David W. Miller, God At Work: The History And Promise Of The Faith At Work Movement (Oxford University Press, 2007).- Rerum novarum, or Rights and Duties of Capital and Labor, is an encyclical issued by Pope Leo XIII on 15 May 1891.2 A THEOLOGICAL CASE FOR ITS NECESSITY (the theology)- Zenos E. Hawkinson, Anatomy of the Pilgrim Experience: Reflections On Being A Covenanter, ed. Philip J. Anderson and David E. Hawkinson (Covenant Pub, 2000).3. FIVE PRACTICAL WAYS TO ACTIVATE PROFESSIONALS AND GAIN PARTNERS (the praxis)1. Redefine “missional”2. Consecrate the Carpenter3. Visit them at work4. Start a Fellows Program5. Learn to do Public Theology
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FWaMM! Ep. 9: Annihilation Vs. The Renewal Of All Things
1. What is the vision of work in the New Heavens and the New Earth?2. What about the fire?Dr. Ryan Gutierrez has a PhD in New Testament from Fuller Theological Seminary, where his dissertation explored the relationship between people and land in the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. He is also the Senior Director at Fuller’s Max De Pree Center for Leadership, where he oversees the development and implementation of organizational systems, processes, and workflows. He previously worked as the Director of Operations for the Office of Vocation Formation at Fuller.Dr. Mark D. Roberts is a Senior Fellow for Fuller’s De Pree Center for Leadership, where he focuses on the spiritual development and thriving of leaders. He is the principal writer of the daily devotional Life for Leaders and the founder of the De Pree Center’s Flourishing in the Third Third of Life Initiative. Previously, Mark was the executive director of the De Pree Center, and prior to that, the senior director of Laity Lodge in Texas. With a PhD in New Testament from Harvard, Mark has written extensively on faith and work integration.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 8: Ephesians and the Summing Up Of All Things
1. What is the scope of Ephesians?2. How does this play out in ethics?Dr. Ryan Gutierrez has a PhD in New Testament from Fuller Theological Seminary, where his dissertation explored the relationship between people and land in the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. He is also the Senior Director at Fuller’s Max De Pree Center for Leadership, where he oversees the development and implementation of organizational systems, processes, and workflows. He previously worked as the Director of Operations for the Office of Vocation Formation at Fuller.Dr. Mark D. Roberts is a Senior Fellow for Fuller’s De Pree Center for Leadership, where he focuses on the spiritual development and thriving of leaders. He is the principal writer of the daily devotional Life for Leaders and the founder of the De Pree Center’s Flourishing in the Third Third of Life Initiative. Previously, Mark was the executive director of the De Pree Center, and prior to that, the senior director of Laity Lodge in Texas. With a PhD in New Testament from Harvard, Mark has written extensively on faith and work integration.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 7: The Texture of Luke and Bearing A Family Resemblance
1. What are some examples of this ‘texture’ in Luke that weaves in work and labor realities into its message?2. What are some principles from the distinctly Lukan narrative that are applicable to how we work today?Dr. Ryan Gutierrez has a PhD in New Testament from Fuller Theological Seminary, where his dissertation explored the relationship between people and land in the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. He is also the Senior Director at Fuller’s Max De Pree Center for Leadership, where he oversees the development and implementation of organizational systems, processes, and workflows. He previously worked as the Director of Operations for the Office of Vocation Formation at Fuller.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 6: Good Carpentry and the Work of our Hands
1. What was Jesus “job”?2. How does the theology of the incarnation affect our work today?Dr. Ryan Gutierrez has a PhD in New Testament from Fuller Theological Seminary, where his dissertation explored the relationship between people and land in the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. He is also the Senior Director at Fuller’s Max De Pree Center for Leadership, where he oversees the development and implementation of organizational systems, processes, and workflows. He previously worked as the Director of Operations for the Office of Vocation Formation at Fuller.Dr. Mark D. Roberts is a Senior Fellow for Fuller’s De Pree Center for Leadership, where he focuses on the spiritual development and thriving of leaders. He is the principal writer of the daily devotional Life for Leaders and the founder of the De Pree Center’s Flourishing in the Third Third of Life Initiative. Previously, Mark was the executive director of the De Pree Center, and prior to that, the senior director of Laity Lodge in Texas. With a PhD in New Testament from Harvard, Mark has written extensively on faith and work integration.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 5: OT Prophetic Passages on Justice & Jesus’ Fulfillment
1. What is the underlying tension between the OT and the NT as it pertains to work?2. How does Jesus fulfill the prophets’ vision of economic justice?3. How does the prophetic voice influence our work today?Dr. Ryan Gutierrez has a PhD in New Testament from Fuller Theological Seminary, where his dissertation explored the relationship between people and land in the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. He is also the Senior Director at Fuller’s Max De Pree Center for Leadership, where he oversees the development and implementation of organizational systems, processes, and workflows. He previously worked as the Director of Operations for the Office of Vocation Formation at Fuller.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 4: Women in the Bible and Work
1. Deborah the Judge2. The “Proverbs 31 Woman”3. RuthDr. Julie Chung is a pastor, teacher, and practical theologian with over 20 years of church ministry experience and served at Saddleback Church for the last 9 years. She holds a doctorate from Fuller Seminary and is the author of the forthcoming book Find and Focus: Purpose in Seasons of Transition. Julie is passionate about helping people connect their faith to everyday work, especially in life’s in-between moments. Julie has been married to her best friend, Sam, for nearly 30 years. Together, they love parenting their three adult children.Dr. Mark D. Roberts is a Senior Fellow for Fuller’s De Pree Center for Leadership, where he focuses on the spiritual development and thriving of leaders. He is the principal writer of the daily devotional Life for Leaders and the founder of the De Pree Center’s Flourishing in the Third Third of Life Initiative. Previously, Mark was the executive director of the De Pree Center, and prior to that, the senior director of Laity Lodge in Texas. With a PhD in New Testament from Harvard, Mark has written extensively on faith and work integration.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 3: Work in the Ten Commandments + Bezalel and Oholiab
1. Exodus 20: The Ten Commandments and Work2. Bezalel and OholiabExodus 31:1-6Exodus 36-39Dr. Mark D. Roberts is a Senior Fellow for Fuller’s De Pree Center for Leadership, where he focuses on the spiritual development and thriving of leaders. He is the principal writer of the daily devotional Life for Leaders and the founder of the De Pree Center’s Flourishing in the Third Third of Life Initiative. Previously, Mark was the executive director of the De Pree Center, and prior to that, the senior director of Laity Lodge in Texas. With a PhD in New Testament from Harvard, Mark has written extensively on faith and work integration.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 2: Spreadsheets, Gardening, & Work Before The Fall
1. Did work exist before the Fall?2. What changed in the nature of work after the Fall?3. How should we understand the language of “subdue”, “rule”, “fill the earth” in the opening chapters of Genesis?Dr. Ryan Gutierrez has a PhD in New Testament from Fuller Theological Seminary, where his dissertation explored the relationship between people and land in the Gospel of Luke and the book of Acts. He is also the Senior Director at Fuller’s Max De Pree Center for Leadership, where he oversees the development and implementation of organizational systems, processes, and workflows. He previously worked as the Director of Operations for the Office of Vocation Formation at Fuller.Dr. Mark D. Roberts is a Senior Fellow for Fuller’s De Pree Center for Leadership, where he focuses on the spiritual development and thriving of leaders. He is the principal writer of the daily devotional Life for Leaders and the founder of the De Pree Center’s Flourishing in the Third Third of Life Initiative. Previously, Mark was the executive director of the De Pree Center, and prior to that, the senior director of Laity Lodge in Texas. With a PhD in New Testament from Harvard, Mark has written extensively on faith and work integration.Cover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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FWaMM! Ep. 1: Introduction & Overview of our Doctoral Cohort
1) COURSE PHILOSOPHYIntegrative, in-context learning & reflection (lest we become Matt 23:15)Flipped classroom (and Tolstoy’s bishop)2) COURSE STRUCTURE10-week quarterHybrid / intensiveCanvasGrading3) COURSE CONTENTBiblical focus this first yearCover image: Vincent van Gogh, Sower at SunsetMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Empathy, Imagination, and Risk as Spiritual Practices (Ep. 19)
If you find yourself stuck and hitting a Wall, I encourage you to explore the Road Ahead on the Houston campus of Fuller Seminary. There is an entrepreneurial path forward. It involves knowing your true value and worth. It involves empathy and imagination. And it involves Risk. May new entrepreneurial initiatives spring up from your reflections on entrepreneurial vocation.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Cheap Grace, Tiers of Value and Counting the Cost (Ep. 18)
Today we talk about value and its role in forming entrepreneurs with capacity, capability, and competency: 1. LUKE 14:25-352. A SELF-INVENTORY OF VALUE & WORTH3. THREE CLOSING PRINCIPLES:1. Without value, we cannot become disciples, because we cannot count the cost.2. When we understand value, we become worth our own weight in salt.3. Weighty people make solid disciples.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: The Experience of Being "Stuck", Entrepreneurialism, and the Critical Journey Stages (Ep. 17)
Today we talk about entrepreneurial vocation and the experience of being “stuck” or “hitting a wall” as a necessary path towards spiritual growth. We will refer to the following diagrams found here: https://www.oikonomiks.com/a-spiritual-toolkit#critical-journeyAlso: if you are interested in finding out more about the Road Ahead cohort, see here: https://depree.org/cohorts/roadahead/Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Work and the Preferential Option for the Poor (Ep. 16)
Today we talk about work and the preferential option for the poor along two headings:1. WORK for the POOR2. WORKING for the POORfollowed by 3 principles:1. The poor come first.2. The best way to serve the poor is to create wealth.3. Therefore, the pursuit of wealth is appropriate and reasonable if the primary motivation is to serve the poor.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Homer Simpson, the Walking Dead, and the Economics of the Kingdom (Ep. 15)
Today we talk about the “WALK and DEAD” and an alternative economics of the kingdom along two headings:1. Getting the kingRICHdom2. The Economics of the Kingdom Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Recapitulation Theory, the Multiethnic Church, and Ender's Game (Ep. 14)
Today we talk about Paul’s vision of the summing up of all things in Christ in Ephesians 1:10. It shows us that our work can matter at a cosmic level in this “administration of the mystery.”1. The Scope of Work2. The Administration of WorkMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Tim Keller, Leaf by Niggle, and "Truly Spiritual" Vocation (Ep. 13)
Today we talk about Gnosticism, Agent Smith squeezing codes out of Morpheus, and J.R.R. Tolkien’s Leaf. All to say that there is hope for work. Hope for something on the other side of the Wall.1. The Futility of Work2. The Hope of WorkMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Jim Manney's "A Simple Life Changing Prayer" - PART 2 (Ep. 12)
Jim Manney teaches the Ignatian Prayer of Examen, a vital tool in vocational self-awareness. Without self-awareness and the ability to see God’s manifold graces to us, we are apt to fall into what Ignatius considered the deadliest of all sins: ingratitude. Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Jim Manney's "A Simple Life Changing Prayer" - PART 1 (Ep. 11)
Jim Manney teaches the Ignatian Prayer of Examen, a vital tool in vocational self-awareness. Without self-awareness and the ability to discern our own desires we are liable to become not only unhealthy, but unsafe for spiritual leadership. The Prayer of Examen is an important tool for honesty and clarity.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Eugene Peterson and the Unpredictable Plant (Ep. 10)
Ministry is the unpredictable plant. Therefore, the formation of the minister is just as important as the ministry itself. God is interested not only in Nineveh’s salvation, but Jonah’s as well. “Do you have good reason to be angry?…”Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Eugene Peterson on Nineveh (Ep. 9)
There are reasons why Jonah avoided Nineveh. We can see those same reasons within ourselves if we look close enough. Acceptance is key. True ministry happens when we recognize and accept the Ninevehs in our own lives.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Eugene Peterson's Fish (Ep. 8)
The significance of Jonah's prayer is not that he prayed, but what he prayed. Find a deeper language as you build a Rule of Life for seminary.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Eugene Peterson on Tarshish (Ep. 7)
Ministry is not about selecting a community, it is about accepting a community. It is not about emotional entanglement, but geographic and circumstantial entanglement. It accepts whoever is on the premises.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Bonhoeffer on Human Love vs. Spiritual Love (Ep. 6)
Bonhoeffer distinguishes between flawed “human love” and “spiritual love” which is the Ideal.HUMAN LOVE:“human love continues to desire even when it seems to be serving” (34)“The basis of all human love is the dark, turbid urges and desires of the human mind… it is the deep night that hovers over the sources of all human action, even over all noble and devout impulses” (31)“Human love is by its very nature desire… So long as it can satisfy this desire in some way, it will not give it up, even for the sake of truth, even for the sake of genuine love… Human love cannot tolerate the dissolution of a fellowship that has become false… Where Christ bids me to maintain fellowship for the sake of love, I will maintain it. Where his truth enjoins me to dissolve a fellowship for love's sake, there I will dissolve it, despite all the protests of my human love.” (34-35)“Thus there is such a thing as human absorption” (33)“The human soul seeks a complete fusion of I and Thou” (33)“Human love loves others not as a free person but as one whom it binds to itself” (34)How do we recognize if we’ve undertaken a ministry out of human love? Ask:1. What are my true motives in being part of this community? 2. What are my needs that I am trying to have met by this community?3. How much of my involvement in this community is driven by self-interest?4. How did I enter into this system?SPIRITUAL LOVE: Mark 10:45 “the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many”John 15:13 “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.”“where human love can no longer expect its desire to be fulfilled, there it stops… in the face of an enemy” (34)“human love becomes personal hatred” (35)“The existence of any Christian life together depends on whether it succeeds at the right time in bringing out… spiritual community. The life or death of a Christian community is determined by whether it achieves sober wisdom on this point as soon as possible.” (37)“spiritual love must release the other person from… all too personal, direct influence, impure interference… every attempt of mine to regulate, coerce, and dominate… The other person needs to retain his independence of me… I must leave him his freedom to be Christ’s… it respects the line that has been drawn between him and me… spiritual love creates freedom” (36-37)“The man who fashions a visionary ideal of community demands that it be realized by God, by others, and by himself. He enters the community of Christians with his demands, sets up his own law, and judges the brethren and God himself accordingly… So he becomes, first an accuser of his brethren, then an accuser of God, and finally the despairing accuser of himself.” (27-28)How can I move away from human love towards spiritual love?1. Detach my ego from the success or the failure of this church / ministry.2. Release them from soft shaming, guilt feelings, and silent expectations.3. Be gentle on myself (and thus others).4. Decouple from them and break enmeshment & codependency.5. Liberate them (from me) to be free.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Look at the Fish! (Ep. 5)
Lectio divina is the process of observation / empiricism inspired by listening to the Holy Spirit.See:Agassiz and the FishHow Three Friends Dropped Out of Princeton, Joined the Inaugural Class of Fuller, and Changed EvangelicalismFive Steps which are the sine qua non of Lectio Divina1. Begin with a reliable text2. Sit still3. Observe grammatical phenomenon4. Suspend interpretation5. Adopt this posture in all of lifeMusic credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Henri Nouwen on Power (Ep. 4)
My agenda is to make us self-aware of our bent towards power - that every. single. one of us. are seducible, and that overcoming it is not always through a singular, defining act of downward mobility, but rather through small everyday deeds of kenosis.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Henri Nouwen and becoming WHOLLY (Ep. 3)
A disclaimer: some serious allegations have been raised about L' Arche, where Nouwen was shaped profoundly as he wrote his book "In the Name of Jesus." The issues he raises still speak proleptically about the circumstances surrounding the scandal to come, and our own ongoing need to be both WHOLE and HOLY.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Mark Labberton on being "Called" (Ep. 2)
Our primary calling is to be the beloved and to follow Christ. That is all, and we shall remain here for as long as he calls us to this first-love identity. That said, if he bids us beyond, into more specific secondary callings, we do well to take heed and obey, for denial of such can be dangerous to our souls.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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SF506: Mark Labberton on being "Called" (Ep. 1)
Seminary can easily be a place where you are living in your head all day long, and scholasticism can be a pathway away from God just as much as it can be a pathway to God; You will need something more than academic and intellectual formation – you will need a vital spiritual encounter with Christ.Music credits: Aleksey Chistilin
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#BEGINNINGS: Noah the Comforter
#BEGINNINGS: Noah the Comforter — Here’s to Noah!
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#BEGINNINGS: Faithful Presence
#BEGINNINGS: Faithful Presence — Go ahead. Plant vineyards. Build houses.
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#BEGINNINGS: Ecosystems of Grace
#BEGINNINGS: Ecosystems of Grace — I took the cup.
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#BEGINNINGS: Family Reunions
#BEGINNINGS: Family Reunions — We are not forgiving, as much as we are enabled to forgive.
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#BEGINNINGS: Joseph – Savior of Egypt and Family
#BEGINNINGS: Joseph – Savior of Egypt and Family — Is there a Joseph?
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#BEGINNINGS: Joseph – Slave and Master
#BEGINNINGS: Joseph – Slave and Master — Sin is crouching at the door; and you must master it.
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#BEGINNINGS: The Birth of Judah
#BEGINNINGS: The Birth of Judah — Earth angel… earth angel…
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#BEGINNINGS: The Death of Joseph
#BEGINNINGS: The Death of Joseph — Die before you die. There is no chance after.
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#BEGINNINGS: Joseph the Dreamer
#BEGINNINGS: Joseph the Dreamer — Afunctioning is dysfunction.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Poverty
#OIKONOMIKA: Poverty - Caught you serving the poor.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Stewardship
#OIKONOMIKA: Stewardship - Stop wearing someone else’s armor.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Administration
#OIKONOMIKA: Administration - The way we win matters.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Incentive
#OIKONOMIKA: Incentive - You get a denarius! You get a denarius! You get a denarius!
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#OIKONOMIKA: Power
#OIKONOMIKA: Power - God is building a city in our midst...
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#OIKONOMIKA: Systems
#OIKONOMIKA: Systems - See systems and challenge them.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Value
#OIKONOMIKA: Value - If we don’t understand value, we end up losing our own worth in salt.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Desire
#OIKONOMIKA: Desire - How do we fix desire? You never liked pears anyway.
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#OIKONOMIKA: The kingRICHdom
#OIKONOMIKA: The kingRICHdom - How do the kingRICHdom?
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#OIKONOMIKA: Called & Gifted
#WOVENTOGETHER: Called & Gifted - You are the people of God. You are called and gifted.
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#OIKONOMIKA: Ministry of the Mystery
#WOVENTOGETHER: Ministry of the Mystery - The mystery of the church is God reconciling all things – and peoples – in Himself. You are ad/ministers of this mystery.
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#OIKONOMIKA: 3 Gifts for Woven
#WOVENTOGETHER: 3 Gifts for Woven - The mystery of the church is that God is reconciling all things – and peoples – in Himself.
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