The School Of Unlearning With Elisa Haggarty

For another episode on “The Art of Coaching” we zero in on The Enneagram with Conscious Leadership Group Coach and Enneagram Expert, Michael Norton.  He emphasizes the Enneagram's role in personal growth and coaching, explaining its nine-pointed system as a tool for understanding personality structures and spiritual development. Norton shares his background in music and theater, highlighting how these experiences shaped his attunement skills and facilitation style. He also delves into the Enneagram's practical applications in coaching, including its ability to enhance communication and trust within teams, and its role in personal transformation by addressing core delusions and unconscious defense mechanisms.  We cover:  Michael’s earliest influences that helped shape his creativity and ability to be attuned the room How Michael found devotion in music and in acting which forged a path  How taking on leadership roles within the acting world helped hone his ability as a coach and led him to The Enneagram Michael provides a historical overview of how The Enneagram came to be  Michael describes the Enneagram as a nine-pointed system that represents nine different personality structures and stages of spiritual development. Michael emphasizes the Enneagram's role as a tool of spiritual awakening and its ability to help individuals understand their motivations and blind spots. Michael discusses how the Enneagram has been useful in his coaching and theater work. He explains how understanding different Enneagram types can improve communication and trust within a team. Elisa and Michael jam on the high sides and low sides of being an Enneagram 4  Michael explains how the Enneagram can help individuals understand their core delusions and unconscious defense mechanisms. He discusses the importance of recognizing and letting go of the belief that there is something missing within oneself. Elisa and Michael talk about the broader implications of the Enneagram, including its ability to challenge and transform personal identity. He explains the different strategies for working with each Enneagram type, including specific homework assignments and areas of focus. Michael highlights the importance of using the Enneagram to create a more trusting and collaborative environment in coaching. Michael shares a case study of a client who is a type eight, focusing on the client's journey of self-discovery and personal growth. He describes the three subtypes: self-preservation, sexual, and social, and how they influence the behavior and motivations of each type. To learn more about Michael Norton and The Conscious Leadership Group, please visit www.conscious.is.  Resources mentioned: Beatrice Chestnut and her podcast Enneagram 2.0. “The Complete Enneagram” by Beatrice Chestnut  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com 

For episode 68 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with Conscious Leadership & Executive Coach, Deb Katz. Deb brings a wealth of experience, fire and devotion to this series on The Art of Coaching.  Deb Katz shared her journey from political activism and anger-driven leadership to presence-based coaching, emphasizing the importance of challenging clients to see beyond their armor and strategies while staying with discomfort. The conversation explored how coaches can develop their "loving challenger" capacity by tracking their own signals and being willing to get it wrong in service of client breakthrough. This episode is for seekers, for coaches, therapists and humans devoted to waking up to their relational "racket".  We explore:  Deb's early shaping story, including the loss of her mother at age 6.  How deb channeled her passion, fire and heartbreak through political activism for much of her early life.  Deb shares having the "good fortune" of experiencing heartbreak, periods of unknown and even loss.  Deb shares some of her key influential mentors, including Rainbow Hawk and Wind eagle in the late 90's and learned more about the wisdom of nature, consciousness and the intersection of spirit and form.  Deb and Elisa explore the journey of individuation in consciousness and within relationships.  "It is a revolutionary act to let that which one is be enough"—trusting one's natural design like a tree trusts being a tree. Deb encourages leaders to "eat their shadows" owning how their fear and projections will impact their presence in a room. Deb explores The Upper Limit to resistance and pleasure, how it's biological, and that we create a "cocktail" or stress and love hormones when happy hormones increase.  How we use shame and sadness to block access to pleasure and maintain familiar patterns.  Signals: Deb urges us to tune into our own signals within the body, and how to use the signal as a way to move with the moment both in coaching and in life.  Coaching: Coaches often enter the field wanting to help from the "hero" position on the drama triangle. And, there is a widespread avoidance of discomfort in coaching culture and society at large.  Deb shares her love for helping coaches hone their "signal" to detect the client's acrobatics to avoid vulnerability and transformation  Loving challenger is explored, more a way to be in communication with the coach's own tracking system, honoring where attention is going and not being committed to being right about the challenge. Deb reminds us all about the mess of being human, the mess of growth, of birth and death and to wade in these waters. Deb and Elisa explore how we use relationships to fortify rackets: people train others how to relate to them in ways that keep their structure intact. (staying connected, staying apart, staying safe etc).  "I can't live another day doing this relationship the way I've been doing it"—examining how you've shown up, not using the relationship as scapegoat Deb shares why "widening the aperture" as we explore our aversions/projections is essential to conscious change and conscious leadership in the world.  Quotes: "The mind is not the source of suffering, but the uninquired mind"  "My job isn't to get it right. My job is just to reflect what I see.” "Shame might be what comes in as your upper limit to pleasure and desire." "I might have to feel some things that make me uncomfortable. But being in devotion to that more than anything else, that's a life of integrity." "Staying with the thread where the activation is, because where the activation is is the way through." To learn more about Deb Katz and her coaching, visit https://debkatz.com.  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com 

Katie Hendricks is one of the pioneers in the field of transformational coaching and somatic awareness. Katie joins us as the fourth guest in this series dedicated to exploring the art of coaching and brings decades of wisdom and experience to the podcast. This episode is fantastic for anyone who is a coach, therapist, facilitator or people oriented leader. Katie brings her intuitive wisdom and bodily awareness to the episode which are superpowers to how Katie sees the world. We cover the world of whole body learning and how the loop of awareness is a powerful presencing technique for coaches.  We explore: What and who shaped Katie growing up The power of movement and bodily awareness, or "whole body learning" as Katie names it. Katie shares how she challenged academic environments growing up and how she ended up shaping the world of mind body realms  How dance movement therapy was born out of a desire to follow the wisdom and insight of the body.  Katie and Elisa explored the power of presence and essence pacing as a tool for awareness and connection. Katie talks about the use of "presence, connect, play" and how she uses everyday moments to be connected and alive with others.  Katie discusses how we create and interact with "the field" of energy all around us. And, how creativity is born out of conscious awareness and how it's accessible to move through us if we are in connection with it.  Katie defines and explores the power of a core coaching/facilitating tool, the loop of awareness.  Katie encourages coaches to "be with and go with" clients on the level of essence and energy.  The benefits of the loop of awareness for the coach, the session and as a way to prevent burn out.  Katie helps the listener orient to the art of coaching very much being about both the coach and client in shared space. That the coaches presence as a transmission contributes to the experience of the client.  Katie describers herself as a "human engineer".  How play is the most effective way to get out of drama/reactivity - using sound and movement to bring the issue to life  Loving with a spine: Katie shares more of what she means to love with a spine, to be in her own energetic integrity.  Katie describes a love for the word, imbue, as a sense of soaking into the ground, a deeper and more felt sense of presence.  Katie shares more of the impact that contempt and fear have on people's relationships and presence.  Katie explores how she experiences completion as "a signal on the horizon", then describe completion as "an exhale."  To learn more about the work of Katie Hendricks and The Hendricks Institute click here.  To learn more about "Essence Pacing" click here.  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com  Next up on The Art of Coaching is Deb Katz.   

Jerry Colonna, “The CEO Whisperer” joins us for the 3rd episode in this series called, “The Art of Coaching”. Jerry is the author of two books, “Reunion: Leadership and The Longing to Belong” and “Reboot: Leadership & The Art of Growing Up” and is the founder/CEO of Reboot io.  This is a passionate and fiery episode where Jerry challenges us to wake up, step into the art of growing up. And, Jerry shares how his heartbreak for the world has influenced the passion in which he approaches coaching and building a more conscious compassionate world.  In this episode, we explore:  The influence of Jerry’s upbringing for his shaping/way of being  How his wounds have formed his superpowers  How business endeavors shaped his growth as a person and coach  Jerry explores the dissonance in venture capture and his emergent curiosity with personal growth and buddhism  “The inner me and outer me were out of sync”  Jerry shares his journey with depression and mental health, and the influential people in his life who helped him find ground within himself  Jerry has a provocative and honest view of leadership: “Leadership is the art of growing up”  The daily practices that sustain self-inquiry, peace and equanimity are shared by Jerry  The role and importance of naming current conditions is shared a way to connect with clients/people Jerry gets fired up about the moral and spiritual obligation of using his power and  Elisa and Jerry share and explore the role of joy and pleasure in maintaining capacity and connection  Jerry shares his wishes for the world  To learn more about Jerry Colonna and Reboot, visit www.reboot.io and if you are wanting more of his writing/voice, please check out his LinkedIn Newsletter.  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com 

For the second episode in this series on The Art of Coaching, we sit down with Jim Dethmer, the co-founder and author of The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership. Jim brings decades of experience as a masterful coach, coaching over 150 CEO’s, a speaker and thought leader in this field. Jim lives in Chicago with his wife Debbie, and in Michigan, their soul’s home,  when they’re recharging during the summer months. You can learn more about Jim Dethmer and The Conscious Leadership Group at www.conscious.is  In this epsiode, Jim explores his origin story, the influences, both in life and in mentorship and how they shaped his first 40 years. This is a powerful episode, exploring the role of acceptance, the hero’s journey, the stages of development for a coach and how we must all move through our wound in order to heal and develop into the person we are longing to become. We explore the role of the socialized self and how it shows up in life and in coaching, and  In this episode, we explore:  Jim’s origin story  Jim discusses his early pursuit of a relationship with Jesus within evangelical Christianity, which provided initial peace and a sense of connection. Jim highlights the influence of Gay and Katie Hendricks, who taught him how to have deep, transformative relationships, impacting his marriage and other relationships. He also mentions Hale Dwaskin and the Sedona Method, which helped him understand the concept of no problems and no self, leading to a profound sense of peace. Elisa and Jim discuss the importance of acceptance in CLG's work, emphasizing the need to see oneself clearly, including the good, beautiful, dark, and messy parts. Jim explains that awareness must be met with acceptance to avoid re-traumatization and to foster a ruthless compassion for the next piece to emerge. He describes the journey of waking up and becoming liberated, which involves removing blinders and seeing oneself more clearly. Jim emphasizes the role of coaches in embodying acceptance and creating a safe space for clients to explore their own messy, crazy things. Jim shares the devotional practices that still light him up.  Jim explores how nearly anything done with awareness can be a soiritual practice of connection and waking up.  Jim explains the four states of consciousness in coaching: me, by me, through me, and as me, each representing a deeper level of presence and transformation. He emphasizes the importance of coaches cultivating their own beingness to create a transformational field for clients. Jim highlights the role of coaches in being the vibration of acceptance and compassion, which allows clients to feel safe and open to transformation. Elisa and Jim discuss the significance of body awareness in coaching, as the body is the first line of awareness in the world. Jim emphasizes the importance of coaches being aware of their own body signals to stay present and compassionate in their work. Jim expresses a desire for ultimate liberation and freedom, acknowledging that he is always seeking something more. There is a call from Jim for more compassion in the world.  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

This series features master coaches who are devoted to the work of inner transformation across various methodologies. These episodes are designed to be a wonderful resource for any coach, therapist, facilitator and or practitioner of the human experience. And, this series is also designed for anyone seeker more aliveness in their life.  Wendy Haines joins the podcast on a series centered around the art of coaching. Wendy is a master coach and facilitator through The Strozzi Institute for Somatics. Wendy has 15 years of transformational coaching experience, is certified with the International Coaching Federation and is a Certified Somatic Coach. She has a particular passion for Somatics for embodied change.  In this episode, we explore:  Wendy’s origin story  How family shaped her experience, and what protective parts/tendencies arose during that time The role of acting in giving Wendy visibility  How Somatics has further shaped Wendy and how its influenced her parenting and relationships What a “coach body” is and why it matters in the container of coaching/facilitating  What a “CT” or Conditioned Tendency is and how it shows up  Wendy shares what is the thing that impacts her when coaching/facilitating  Elisa and Wendy explore current longings around relationship Wendy ends this juicy exploration with her own unlearning  To learn more about Wendy, visit her at www.wendyhaines.com  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com

Hi friends, this is a special episode dedicated to sharing a powerful somatic tool and practice with you: centering.  Centering was created by the founder of The Strozzi Institute, Richard Strozzi-Heckler Phd who brings together 5 decades of studies in eastern and western medicine and healing to his work. Centering is a somatic practice to be present, open, connected to what matters most - it begs us to awaken from the trance of life and access our embodied imagination and build capacity and welcome whatever arises.  Timestamps:  Introduction, attribution and lineage: 0:00:-5:52: Centering practice: 5:52-16:36 16:37: debriefing and application of this practice Length: our length, from toes to head and up the spine, represents our dignity. Our dignity is not something we have to earn or effort for, it's something we are born with.  Width: our width from the edges of our bodies, from left food to right foot, represents our belonging. Centering in our width also invites us to consider our collective belonging.  Depth: The third dimension we center in is our depth, or our safety. Our depth is found in the belly, the pelvic region and sacrum. Feel into and even visualize all the systems in place within your body that keep you safe. Back body: your back body, found in your shoulder blades, sacrum, heels represents your history, and all of those who have shaped, loved, informed your journey. Your back body also holds the former versions of yourself and you can presence everyone you love behind you.  Front body: your front body represents your present and all that you long to move towards.  Throughout this centering practice, notice the sensations, emotions, thoughts, images, memories or thoughts that arise through you. Leading from center opens a doorway to the realms of intuition, perception and expression.  As you get experience being led through the center, ask yourself what is possible if you are able to return to your dignity line, belonging and safety throughout the day? How would your actions and experiences shift?  If you are a leader, business owner, entrepreneur looking to deepen your leadership capacity, step into embodied leadership for the sake of what is most important to you - schedule time with me at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com  

This episode explores the impact and art of improv and play in the workplace. David Westerlund brings his zone of genius to The School of Unlearning podcast and provides insights on the tenets of applied improv and invites listeners into 5 improv games. This episode is great for leaders of teams who wish to create more play and connection in their teams and helps debunk the myths surrounding productivity and play.  Watch on Youtube! Books referenced:  "Improvisation: The Drama of Christian Ethics" by Sam Wells  "Play Date Deck" by Sara McMahon Improv Games Played:  1. Bumper sticker 2. Don't get me started: ranting or raving 3. I couldn't have done it without you 4. Remember when: act as if we have a shared memory, ”remember when…" 5. 7 things David delights in supporting leaders who want to intentionally learn, grow, and develop and want the same for their teams. Who are we being invited to be and become in order to collectively face the complex challenges in front of us? is the question that enlivens his own growth and his work with clients. He finds joy in designing and facilitating highly-interactive retreats that weave together connection, play, and transformative learning for leaders and teams who want to thrive. David’s work as an executive coach, learning designer, and facilitator has led him to work with teams in health care, business, nonprofits, government, and schools locally, nationally, and globally. He’s called Bellingham, Washington his home for 20 years and finds delight in walking in the Arboretum, Saturday breakfasts at Old Town Cafe, and visiting his daughter in NYC where they delight in improvising their way through the day. His website is: https://davidwesterlund.com/ Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on Instagram.   

For episode 61 of The School of Unlearning podcast we sit down with podcast producer and filmmaker, Jackson Kroopf to explore how we can all foster better friendships as adults. Our first memories and some of the most influential relationships growing up are friendships and as we grow older, friendships prove to be even more essential than we may have realized. COVID and social media have changed the landscape for how we interact with each other and our friendships in adulthood are in major need of a reframe. In this podcast, we explore:  The richness and value of friendships in adulthood The importance of community and emotional support and how this comes in various forms in adulthood New friends and how they hit differently than old friends How old friends bring up nostalgia and belonging, they form a map of our lives  How to address rupture in friendships  How our relational patterns or attachment styles show up in friendships Friendships in all forms of intensities and make ups, ones that allow for idle time and ones that can also allow for spontaneity  The value of low touch points with friends  How hosting and gathering will keep us healthy and connected To learn more about Jackson, click here to visit his website and follow them on social media. Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on Instagram. 

For episode 60, we sit down with Functional Nutritionist, Andrea Nakayama to explore the gaps in the ever present conversation around longevity and health. Andrea posits that storytelling, meaning and fulfillment are essential to a life well lived. Andrea is a prolific writer and storyteller in her own right, crafting a newsletter called, "Mending" and runs a book club called, "The Longview" exploring the intersection of storytelling and health and longevity.  What we cover:  Andrea’s new terrain in longevity, meaning and the role of storytelling  Control vs influence Shift in perspective, a diagnosis isn’t a blame, fault overlay  Reimagining longevity: longevity, and a life well lived isn’t about length but about meaning, fulfillment The role of narrative medicine within health and functional medicine  Why pathologizing health is limiting and the role of storytelling in reclaiming health The role of interoception: how did this land and move within in me?   Exploring completion: how our loved ones carry on with us  Life and longevity, and legacy, and legacy can be defined however we wish to define it.  How longevity and storytelling have inspired Andrea’ vision and presence within the Functional Medicine realm  Why optimization at every turn Is limiting and draining vitality Connection has as many anti-inflammatory benefits as some of our top anti-inflammatory supplements Health and longevity has less to do with the things we take, things we do and things we measure  Andrea shares some of her non-food and health activities that feed our soul and turns us on  “Optimization tools are not appropriate for stabilization”  Mentions:  Andrea Nakayama website Share Blackie: Hagitude: Reimagining the Second Half of Life Spiritual Midwifery by Ina May Gaskin    Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast 

Today we welcome Conscious Leadership Coach, Joyce Chen of the Conscious Leadership Group to the podcast. We traverse the land of wonder, and how to access it and what blocks our capacity to step into wonder. We also explore the role of a whole body yes and a whole body no as it relates to identifying and going after our wants, needs and aliveness. Joyce is a force of insight, wisdom and she offers much of her own personal journey through the lens of Conscious Leadership. This episode is for any human and leader seeking more congruence, aliveness and confidence to build an exquisite life.  We cover: What a side by side, conscious coaching relationship feels like and why it's effective for both coach and client.  The role of wonder in a coach/client dynamic  How emotions unlock our capacity to step into wonder What a whole body yes is  The role reactivity can play in preventing wonder or preventing us from accessing a whole body yes The power of a pause to explore wonder and emotions Joyce reviews the five core emotions via CLG and what questions we can ask to explore their inteligence How a whole body yes opens up a landscape of opportunity and choice  Joyce encourages listeners to step into exploring what needs to change/shift from a whole body no to a whole body yes The journey Joyce took while at Meta in honing her interest and love for Conscious Leadership principles Joyce encourages people leaders and managers to really become aware of being in a whole body yes or no state, and the "reckoning inside of us" when we are out of alignment with our work  The role of the socialized self in development and how it can hinder our knowing and desire in adulthood  Our innate knowing and wisdom around what we want and how we can use sensations, pause and emotions to connect more deeply with ourselves Both Joyce and Elisa share their fears around life milestones and model stepping into wonder  References: Gay and Katie Hendricks, The Hendricks Institute Whole Body Yes via The Conscious Leadership Group  Peter Hawkins on side by side coaching approach  Martha Beck  Please click here to follow and learn more about The Conscious Leadership Group. You can follow Joyce Chen on Instagram @joycechen_coaching and here on LinkedIn. Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning podcast. She coaches leaders and teams to step into radical responsibility and strengthen relational connection.   

Elisa Haggarty and Justin Mulvaney explore the origin story of their upcoming event, "Loving Challenger: A Playground for Radical Aliveness" which takes place on February 8th in NYC. If you notice a surge of curiosity and aliveness listening to this episode, click here to check out the event and apply to be in person with Elisa and Justin exploring big questions and practicing new ways of being.  In this episode Elisa and Justin cover:  Where the idea of "Loving Challenger" comes from What the term "coach body" means and how this workshop on February 8th illuminates and shapes your "coach body" Who this event is for and how to know if you are ready to step into this Conscious Leadership playground Who this event is not for  The importance of being willing to show up and play vs sit back and learn  The importance of play and aliveness in coaching and life  The structure and container for the event  How exploring our emotional worlds will be a part of the event  Intentions for showing up on February 8th  To register for this in person event on February 8th in NYC, at Fabrik, please click here. Use the discount code, "FRIEND75" for $75 off.   

In this episode, Justin Mulvaney who is a Conscious Leadership Coach and peer/friend of Elisa takes the microphone and interviews her on her recent experience at The Integrity Bootcamp with The Conscious Leadership Group.  If you are seeking aliveness and alignment in your life and in the workplace, this episode lays out the pillars of integrity based on the work of The Conscious Leadership Group. You will hear how learning how to give/receive critical and appreciative feedback and the power of congruence are the foundations of integrity and aliveness.  Elisa and Justin dive into:  Integrity is about energetic aliveness and congruence, it's not a moral or ethical.  The tenets of feedback via CLG framework Feedback is a gift and a pathway towards connection, learning and is also for the collective.  When receiving feedback, ask, "how is it true?"  The feedback that Elisa received that lit her up and also challenged her Justin explains how we can receive the feedback without needing to change/create/solve for the feedback, let it land.  "You've never met another person, you've only met your story of them." Byron Katie  What our "racket" is according to CLG and how we use our racket to cover up discomfort and vulnerability.  How feeling feelings to completion unlocks aliveness and creative energy  How fear and anger and sexual energy are connected  What a projection is and how we "x" out what we don't accept in ourselves and in others.  Congruence: your inner world is matched by your outer expression and how this "noticing and matching" is the foundation of aliveness and integrity  "We are either getting more transparent or more opaque." Jim Dethmer  What a "Whole Body Yes" and "Whole Body No" is and why this is connected to aliveness.  Elisa and Justin share critical and appreciative judgements for each other at the end.  Elisa and Justin explore the questions: "What am I willing to risk to experience full aliveness?" and, "What are you not willing to risk to experience full aliveness?".  "Coaching is only as powerful as we honoring aliveness in our lives. The Coaching happens outside of the coaching for everyone." Justin Mulvaney "Leadership isn't learned in the workshop, it's learned in the work." Kristen Lisanti  "The idea that the healing is here for the client is part of the illness" Deb Katz Click here to learn more about the work of The Hendricks Institute.  To learn more about Justin Mulvaney, click here to follow his work. Justin is a Conscious Leadership Coach and a powerful force for founders who want to create and run business with aliveness and integrity.  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social media.

Today’s episode is the fourth in a five part series on relationships and we sit down with Somatic Coach and Practitioner, Sarah Coxon. Sarah connects the dots between her first love, archeology and the work she does now to help people reclaim their power through somatic practices. Our conversation traverses many spaces, and brings us all closer to understanding, and feeling empowered about the healing path. Unlike many practitioners, Sarah doesn’t hyperfocus on the trauma, instead, she uses practices and present moment awareness to address what is here now. Sarah offers us gem after gem and posits that perhaps moving toward joy and aliveness can be a powerful pathway to healing.  How Sarah’s background in archeology has shaped her worldview, and how it influences her work in Somatic Coaching The link between nature and our own internal growth and healing  Sarah connects the dots for us on how our leaps in technology have surpassed our own biological and psychological capacities to handle them  Context in archeology is foundational, we are always looking at the context to understand a finding or a pattern in history and Sarah helps us see this through the lens of Somatic Coaching  Sarah reveals how our lack of curiosity, largely influenced by our need to know and technology, has impacted our capacity to think, feel and stay connected. Sarah shares her insights on her evolution in coaching which started 8 years ago  and how she thinks of her role now in holding space for whatever wants to be felt/seen/expressed now Sarah uses a beautiful metaphor of embracing the tidal rhythms of life through grief and other complex emotions  How culture doesn’t teach self-trust, how early on we are told to trust authorities and this can lead to disembodiment and lack of inner knowing and trust How attunement is a muscle we must deepen for our relationships, and how it begins with our bodies and going slower than we think we need to  Elisa and Sarah discuss that even leaders feel fear and disempowerment and the sooner we can develop empathy for their experience, the closer we get to a more connected workforce To learn more about sarah and her podcast, books and offerings, visit www.drsarahcoxon.com and follow her at www.instagram.com/drsarahcoxon  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

In episode 55 on The School of Unlearning podcast, the theme of relationships is explored as it relates to rituals and physical spaces in nature. This conversation builds on a five part relationship focus and grounds us back in our bodies and in to the natural world around us as we find our center and slow our pace down, all in the effort to be more attuned to our needs and those around us. Our guest is Functional Medicine Practitioner and Clinical Herbalist Educator and Practitioner, Megan Liebmann-Gudat. Megan specializes in helping women in the peri-menopause and menopause stages of life and health through dietary, lifestyle and mindset approaches.  In this podcast, we discuss:  How to zoom out of the singular obsession of romantic relationships and move into a broader view of how to manifest love in life.  Elisa and Megan discuss why the “eradicate” approach with chronic health conditions isn’t working or healing.  Megan shares how our dialogue with our symptoms and ailments is foundational and the most powerful way to embark on a healing path. Megan asks us to invite a conversation with our symptoms to the table?  How we can match our environment with our biology and what this does for our health.  Relationship to space: Megan highlights how we can cultivate trust to a space, which she says is often one of our first relationships.   Megan introduces a “sits spot” which is a space she brings her children to a few times a year to notice seasonal changes and shifts in the terrain.  We cover what an “access point” is in healthcare and how knowing where to begin is maybe the most important thing.  Pacing and our relationship to slowness help improve our ability to be present and notice what is arising.  Top 10 Takeaways:  When dealing with chronic health conditions, move beyond “eradication” and dip into curiosity and conversation with the condition and it’s symptoms.  Being in relationship to the healing is more important than the protocol itself.  Our first relationship to trust is often our relationship with a physical space, a home.  A powerful way to be in relationship with physical spaces is to do what Megan calls a “sits spot” is an activity of mindfulness and noticing. Find one spot in nature and sit with it as the seasons change, draw and document what changes. One way to mitigate the feeling of loneliness is to integrate other ways of bringing spiritual practices in, starting with nature or outdoor spaces. Realizing that we are not in fact alone.  Megan reminds us that we can’t speed up nature, so making a practice of keeping seasonal journal for your surrounding environment is a powerful way to bring presence into your life. This practice slows us down.  Take what you think you can do and divide it in two and take what you think you need and times it by 3.  Megan on embracing slowness: a major theme from all of the relationship podcasts so far has been pacing. And, Megan doubles down on how our pacing impacts our ability to connection.  Attunement matters when we consider how to shift our relationship to health, and this begins with a slowing down.  Access point is everything for practitioners of health and change. And, the access point is figuring out where the person is willing to shift, and that begins the great conversation and practice of healing.  Follow Megan on Instagram at @meganliebmann_ and for more on her body of work, visit www.amethystandrose.com Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work HERE and follow her on social at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

Today’s episode is the second in a five part series on relationships. Our guest and thought partner in this conversation is Kristen Lisanti who coaches and trains transformational leaders. After 20 years of cultivating healthy, high-performing cultures in organizations around the world, she now builds the capabilities of her clients to do the same. Kristen hosts Radiant Leader, a community of practice for transformational leaders, and immersive leadership development retreats and programs, including her mindful leadership cohort, Momentum. She lives outside New York City. This is one of my favorite conversations on the podcast yet - and it’s an exploration of the human experience and the beauty of how our work can be fuel for our growth - and that in seeing work and career evolution as a pathway towards personal ascension and radical acceptance, we are never not in learning mode. Kristen walks us through her new framework for the 3 traps that keep leaders stuck in transitional leadership and how we use attunement and self-awareness to avoid these traps and step into the dynamic conversation of transformational leadership.  Top 10 Take aways:  We exist in relationship to one another  - we are always interbeing and interbecoming.  We do not change other people. The only thing we can do is work on and within ourselves.  The 3 traps of transactional leadership are 1. The Compliant Trap. 2. The Controlling Trap and 3. The Knowing Trap.  Transformational leadership has nothing to do with your role or seniority and everything to do with relating to a purposeful vision and creating conditions for the team to achieve that vision.  Attuning ourselves and the people around us is essential for transformational leadership.  Change is not a sprint. Change is not a marathon. Change is infinite.  The case for efficiency and effectiveness is slowing down.   “Perfectionism is not perfection. Perfect is not a thing. Completeness is not a thing. Everything is always iterating and evolving forever.” STOP, a classic mindfulness practice helps us move away from reactivity and creates space - in turn, opening us up the option of choice.  Check in with yourself - are you in a story that you didn’t write?  Follow Kristen at @kristenlisanti and @radiantleader.co and for more on her body of work, visit www.kristenlisanti.com Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

This is a special tribute to my late father, Jim Haggarty. Dad passed away on November 2nd 2022 after a valiant battle with Benson's Syndrome, a visual variant of Dementia.  Tune into to hear Elisa celebrate her father and learn more about the man who left quite the mark on the people around him.  "Dad was one of one, a singular force of love and I’m so grateful to have been his daughter."  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

This is the first episode in a five part series on relationships and we begin with an in depth look at relational rupture & repair with Somatic Therapist and Relational Psychotherapist, Jordan Dann.  "The best thing we get to do on this planet is be in relationship. And it’s the only thing we aren’t taught how to do.” Jordan Dann Covering a wide array of topics and tools within rupture & repair, Jordan Dann provides insight into attainment, slowing down, the role of a therapist and client - and how we can begin to reimagine conflict as not a barrier, but as a bridge to connection.  Here are the top 10 take aways from this beautifully insightful conversation:  Attunement begins with being present.  Most people’s idea of slow is still really fast. Going slower, at quarter speed at any activity, opens up the landscape of choice.  A bid is a reach for connection. When we miss bids of attention, this is when ruptures occur. The Gottmans say that couples who are masterful at rupture and repair cycles, have 80% satisfaction and wellbeing in their relationships.  "You have to allow the repair to be a singular event, and not another log on the bonfire of resentment. Your reception and “thank you” and being able to fully let it go and move forward is as important as saying, 'I’m sorry.'" Jordan Dann Our attachment system is really forgiving. Ed Tronick cites in his research that we only need to be in attunement 20-30% of the time. Our attachment system is really forgiving in that respect.  All conflict is in essence, an objection over difference. "Until you understand what's running the show, you aren’t running the show, your unconscious is. Explore the enmeshment of your origin family and how a lack of differentiation is impacting your ruptures." Jordan Dann BRING play and laughter more into the rupture and repair cycle: couples lay down on the ground while arguing, it helps de escalate the issue. When repairs go well, we can celebrate with each other. This is how you create a story about how you fight, if you celebrate and review the success of it.  We need models of health relationships, of ones who have ruptures and repair. We spend far too much time commiserating vs seeking out and being with others who repair well.  Specific appreciation is essential. And in order to be specific, we must be present and attuned.  For more on Jordan's work, follow her on Instagram www.instagram.com/jordandann and check out her offerings at www.jordandann.com  References:  Ed Tronick research: "The Still Face Experiment"  The Gottman Institute Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to shift the way people relate and collaborate through radical responsibility, curiosity and emotional intelligence. You can follow her work at www.instagram.com/elisamaryhaggarty and www.instagram.com/thesoulpodcast

A solo episode with Elisa who shares her insights and own unlearning about running a podcast.  You'll hear a review of top quotes from guests and also a preview of what is to come with a new series on Relationships coming soon.  “I am unlearning that I always know in the moment what is good or bad. The present is always changing our stories about the past. We have the ability to change the past because we have a different relationship with it, based on our present day." Connor Carrick, Episode 1  “Unlearning is the ultimate act of humility for me. It is the surrender to the fact that everything and everyone is a teacher, and everyone and everything is a student.” Claude Silver, Episode 15  "What I feel when I hear the word unlearning, I feel a relief, a softening, a permission. And, what I think about it is that if we have some intact culture and some experience at all with elder-hood, and what it may be to be near someone who are true elders, or many people or who are true elders, there wouldn’t be so much we have to unlearn, we could trust the learning that we did." Kimberly Ann Johnson, Episode 22 "Unlearning in degrees matters." Kate Fagan And, Elisa previews an upcoming episode with Jordan Dann which will be released on June 13th.  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with executives and teams to create more collaborative and radical responsible leaders in the workplace. Follow her podcast at @thesoulpodcast and @elisamaryhaggarty  www.elisamaryhaggarty.com     

In our first ever podcast swap, I sit down with Ed Haynes, a Crossfit and Performance Coach based in Hong Kong. Ed interviews me and I interview him in this candid conversation where we discuss unlearning some of our biggest roadblocks around people pleasing, growth mindset and how to better connect with people.  In this episode, we cover:  Elisa's origin story of unlearning How this podcast came to be What Ed is currently unlearning about people pleasing and boundaries  The important of learning to sit with silence and space within conversations  How Ed uses growth mindset Can growth come within our comfort zone? Why being calm isn't necessarily the goal or a sign of a regulated nervous system How to work with stress  How to help clients work through emotions and glean the insights they bring  How Ed has used mindset and fitness to grow  How defensiveness is the first sign of war How to know what a full body yes and full body no sounds like  How much do we really need to work within a given week? What comes up when we have easier/lighter workload days?   To learn more about Ed click here. Subscribe to Ed's podcast, "The Process Podcast" by clicking here.    Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who helps leaders and team break drama patterns and form a more emotionally attuned world that leads to connection and innovation. To learn more about her, click here. 

What is life anyway? What makes life good? What brings us alive? Who said we need a 5 year plan anyway?  Today, I press record in a spontaneous moment of breaking patterns, unlearning perfection and tackle what's top of mind for me.  Join me in this 7 minute podcast! Take aways:  How the pressure we put on ourselves to create a meaningful/perfect life suffocates us and robs us of what life is here to show us It's a big deal to be alive on this planet  How our phones take us elsewhere, never fully here in the moment Be more awkward Compliment people more Pet more dogs who seem eager  Relax into your life instead of trying to build an ideal life Spark conversation with strangers in life  When you can, make eye contact with strangers - it makes a big difference  In a society that stresses autonomy and control, we may not have as much control as we think Following the breadcrumbs help heighten attention to your needs and what the world is giving you Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and a cat mom who finds joy in noticing what's beautiful and sharing it. You can learn more about her work here. 

It turns our breathing isn't just about staying alive - it is a state/energy management tool that helps us regulate, get grounded, get fired up and recover. For episode 48 on The School of Unlearning, Avid Greenberg joins us to discuss his path to becoming a Wim Hoff Certified Breathwork Instructor. Avi spent years in the corporate world feeling less than optimal and fulfilled and finally followed his intuition to make the jump into becoming an entrepreneur and we are so glad he did. Avi has led thousands of people and groups through hot/cold contrast therapy and breath-work exercises and in this episode he walks us through the benefits for embracing the breath consciously - and why humans of all kind would benefit by embracing this tool. Avi and I also discuss how breathwork has been used in the NBA and professional sports worlds so that athletes can regulate themselves in order to gain a competitive advantage. We jam on the Knicks - his favorite team - and what parallels we both see in the corporate world and sports organizations as leadership principles evolve and become more human centric.    In this episode we cover:  Avi's entrance to hot/cold contract and breath-work The benefits of embracing breath-work consciously  Why long slow exhales help us regulate and feel more grounded  What NBA superstars like Steph Curry and Lebron James are using the breath to level up their performance during timeouts  What overlap we see in the corporate world and sports organizations in leadership  To learn more about Avi, visit his site at www.avigreenberg.com and follow him on IG @avilu  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who helps leaders and teams break relational drama patters through play and curiosity.  To learn more about her work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com  

How is emotional literacy different than emotional intelligence? Why do we need both? Have you ever had the inkling that you may play some part in the relational drama you see unfolding at work or in relationships? Today on the podcast, we welcome Conscious Leadership and Executive Coach, Justin Mulvaney. Justin shares his origin story into coaching and the deep work he is doing on his end to play with the principles of Conscious Leadership. This episode is for anyone looking to better understand emotional intelligence and how to take radical responsibility for their lives. Today we cover:  Justin’s early influences in nature and key influences The journey from tech industry to coaching  Why Justin chose The Conscious Leadership Group as the method he wanted to embrace and learn  What has changed Justin the most throughout his training with CLG and coaching clients over the past few years How Justin defines emotional intelligence  How and why the journey of embracing consciousness is messy and scary at times  How to examine reactive patterns and beliefs  How to feel your feelings to completion  Justin Mulvaney is a conscious leadership and executive coach who helps leaders and leadership teams become more conscious, connected, and effective. He helps founders and leaders in technology and corporate environments identify and shift the patterns that hold them back and discover new ways of living and leading. To learn more about Justin, click here: https://justinmulvaney.co   To learn more about Elisa and her work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com and follow her on Instagram @thesoulpodcast and @elisamaryhaggarty 

In this episode, Dr. Gay Hendrick brings his life and professional wisdom to the podcast and shows us how we can turn criticism into creativity. In one of the more powerful podcast episodes I've ever recorded, Gay helps empower us to understand that beyond name, form, career - we are pure consciousness and helps us understand how taking responsibility for our thoughts and habits can change our lives. Gay shares his breakthroughs early on in life and helps us connect the dots between generational trauma - and, what we can do about creating new generational patterns.  Gay Hendricks, Ph.D., has been a leader in the fields of relationship transformation and bodymind therapies for more than 45 years. After earning his Ph.D. in counseling psychology from Stanford, Gay served as professor of Counseling Psychology at the University of Colorado for 21 years. He has written more than 40 books, including bestsellers such as Five Wishes, The Big Leap and Conscious Loving (co-authored with his co-author and mate for more than 35 years, Dr. Kathlyn Hendricks), both used as a primary text in universities around the world. His latest book, The Genius Zones and explores his breakthrough process to end negative thinking and live in true creativity. Today we cover:  Gay’s early life influences, including his grandparents and how the months prior to his birth influenced his relationship to emotions, food and self.  Gay’s encounter with Ram Das in his early 20’s and how this planted seeds for continued growth  How Gay defines enlightenment  Gay shares why recommitment needs more press  The role of self-blame and criticism and how they color and block creativity  How we can nurture ourselves into creativity and expansion Why taking radical responsibility for your life isn’t about blame How taking responsibly is both invigorating and creative!  How do view each decade in clinical psychology  The role of our family’s generational trauma and experiences in our current lives  What congruence is and why it’s so important for aliveness Why emotions are essential for us to embrace who we really are Gay offers news ways to view emotions like anger and fear  What Gay is currently unlearning  To learn more about Gay and Katie Hendricks, visit: https://hendricks.com Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with leaders and organizations to break repeated drama patterns and create more skillful and joyful workplaces. To learn more about her work, visit: www.elisamaryhaggarty.com      

Dr. Joan Rosenberg, the author of "90 Seconds to a Life You Love" joins us for episode 45 and shares part of her personal journey from childhood that inspired her to pursue emotional mastery. The desire for confidence, authenticity and belonging lies within our capacity to sit with both pleasant and unpleasant emotions and Joan Rosenberg PhD teaches us how to do that in this episode.  We review the Rosenberg Reset which lays out the steps towards emotional confidence and why congruence is so essential to our wellbeing. This podcast episode is ripe with insight, moments you won't want to miss and will leave you feeling more empowered to live life more fully.  Joan I. Rosenberg, PhD, creator of Emotional Mastery™ and Emotional Mastery Training™, is a highly regarded expert psychologist, master clinician, trainer and consultant. As a cutting edge psychologist who is known as an innovative thinker, trainer and speaker, Joan has shared her life-changing ideas and models for emotional mastery, change and personal growth in professional and educational seminars, psychotherapy sessions and graduate psychology teaching. https://drjoanrosenberg.com/joans-story/ We cover: Dr. Rosenbergs early childhood and how it shaped her sense of belonging  Why emotional confidence was something Dr. Rosenberg realized early on in life would help her wade through life’s ups and downs  Who her early influences were  The 90 second rule of emotions How we can make use of feelings and emotions  Why pleasant feelings/sensations are difficult to sit with  How we can practice the Rosenberg Reset to master unpleasant feelings  What type of pleasant feelings are difficult for people and why What a compliment really means and why it’s important to accept them  Grief and 3 recommended practices to work with it  The importance of congruence in our inner and outer worlds Why speaking up is the pathway towards emotional confidence  How and when Dr. Rosenberg recommends we speak up  Why insights usually follow expression  Grief: how to embrace the relationship even if the person has passed on  Referenced:  Dr. Daniel Siegel  Katie and Gay Hendricks Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor's book, "A Stoke of Insight"   Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast.   

If you are confused about women's hormone health or what foods fuel inflammation, this podcast episode is for you. Dr. Soyona Rafatjah, a board certified Family Physician and the Founder of Prime Health in Denver, CO. joins us for episode 44 on The School of Unlearning podcast. We discuss her origin story and what fueled her to embrace the tenets of Functional and Integrative Medicine and why women's thyroid health is so importance for metabolic and immune function. Dr. Rafatjah helps us understand the power and importance of informed consent and how most medical science and pharmaceuticals are designed for men. Women's health involving stress management, toxins and dietary modifications are baseline for Dr. Rafatjah and this episode is filled with clinical gems.   In this episode, we cover:  Soyona's origin story  Why Functional medicine is rooted in health outcomes vs sick care Why the thyroid is importance for women's health and why most doctor's don't run comprehensive labs The benefits of birth control for family planning Why birth control is being over prescribed and prescribed for the wrong reasons - how it can act as a bandaid for hormone health issues The importance of informed consent in women's health  What 3 foods fuel inflammation What foods calm inflammation  The root causes of depression and how to proactively work with brain health   How much protein a day women should aim for  Soy? What are the health benefits and risks and why to always aim for organic  What Dr. Raftajah is currently unlearning You can learn more about Prime Health by visiting their website here.  Prime Health offers private and group Functional Medicine care to those in the Colorado area and select states for virtual care.    Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast.     

If you’ve ever been told you are too sensitive or struggle to work with highly sensitive people - this podcast is for you. Kelsey and I explore the wisdom of our emotions and how we can work with them vs react blindly to them. Kelsey Fox Bennett Boyd is an Educator, Brain Gym Consultant and Author. Kelsey has been working with kids and adults, with a specialization in supporting the highly sensitive, for over a decade. In this podcast episode we introduce concepts like emotional regulation, bi-lateral stimulation and help make a case for highly sensitive people. Kelsey has written a book called, Arya & Everyone Else’s Feelings, which celebrates sensitivity and empowers readers to release the weight of other people’s feelings and feel safe and protected as they support those they care about most. Information on the kickstarter to support this invaluable book is below!  On this episode we cover: Kelseys childhood and how it shaped her inner world What being a brain gym consultant is and why we all need one Kelseys health and life challenges early on that led her to embrace the mind/body connection What it means to be highly sensitive and how to work with it  The power and meaning of emotions  How to create new neural pathways  What emotional regulation is  What Kelsey is unlearning  Links mentioned on the podcast: Kelseys website: https://kelseyfoxbennettboyd.com/ Kickstarter for “Arya & Everyone Else’s Feelings”: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kfbb/arya-and-everyone-elses-feelings Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

On episode 42 for The School of Unlearning I welcome with my twin sister, Catherine Haggarty. Catherine is a Brooklyn based artist, teacher, curator and co-founder of the NYC Crit Club. Catherine walks us through her days in childhood where she learned to make things from what she found and by embracing her imagination. We reminisce on our early memories together and the influence that our Mom and Dad had on us as found solace in art and in sports. It's a sweet episode that gets fiery at times as we discuss and challenge the narratives around art, education and entrepreneurship.  This episode is dedicated to our late father, Jim Haggarty who lead with love and curiosity throughout our entire lives and to our Mom, who showed us what perseverance and enduring love looks like.  We cover: Catherine's early influences growing up How Mom and Dad shaped and nudged each of us How language and words can shape and influence a young child  Unlearning how we box ourselves into identities too quickly and too soon in life  Why we should ditch the pursuit of "being good at things"  How Catherine found her voice in college and decided to pursue art school abroad in Rome, Italy.  The benefits for Catherine in not necessarily having a lot of models in the art world early on. Why making art will always be #1 for Catherine  What Catherine is actively unlearning these days To learn more about Catherine's work, visit her site at www.catherinehaggarty.com  Referenced during the podcast:  Liv Aanrud, Artist NYC Crit Club  ______________ Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach who works with leaders and professional athletes to empower them with the self-awareness and power skills to navigate change and break repeated drama patterns.  Follow Elisa at @elisamaryhaggarty and visit her visit at www.elisamaryhaggarty.com 

Lauren Fleshman joins us today and it’s rich and warm conversation that carries an enduring message of hope for the future of sports. Lauren has coined the phrase, “the performance wave” which helps young women going through their menstrual cycle and normal hormonal changes to understand and even embrace the ebbs and flows of their performance. Lauren encourages her readers through her book to understand that if they stay the course and listen to their bodies needs, the best is yet to come. Lauren Fleshman shares what she Is actively unlearning and highlights her first book, which is a NY Times best seller, “Good for A Girl: A Woman running in a Man’s World.”  Show notes:  How Lauren’s childhood in LA influenced her life  The most influential people in Lauren’s life and how they shaped her sense of self  What finding your “race weight” meant for young athletes and how the “diet culture” shaped hormone health, mental health and performance  What pisses Lauren off about the sports culture and women’s health  Lauren presents the notion of “the performance wave” as it relates to younger women going through natural processes such as menstruation Why reclaiming your body and running for one’s self is so important to Lauren  How the “athlete mindset” can both help and hider people post career as they find ways The role that capitalism plays in repressing feelings Lauren’s advice to women How Lauren defines unlearning  Mentioned on the podcast:  Kate Fagans episode 18 Books by Kara Goucher and Alison Diser’s book, “Running while Black.”    Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

Episode 40 on The School of Unlearning podcast features Michelle Cleary who is a licensed psychotherapist. Michelle brings a radical and essential framework to the world called, “The Shift”. Michelle has battled what she calls “disembodied eating” for much of her life and shares how we can all begin to rethink and reframe what society has called “disordered eating”. Her approach in “The Shift” is to teach practices and tools that empower people to come back to their bodies, to inquire and make friends with their habits and build a new relationship to themselves. We cover:  Michelle’s path in facing adverse childhood trauma and how she experienced disembodied eating  How we have a culture of “departure” from the present moment and how that impacts our nervous systems and habits.  What disembodied is vs disordered eating  What role the nervous system plays in disembodied eating  How important co-regulation is in health and specifically in breaking patterns that cause harm.  Michelle’s radical approach to helping people embrace a new way of thinking and embracing their eating habits. It all begins with a return to the self, the body - a coming home of sorts that allows each person to stand firmly in their power.  References:  “Good for a Girl” by Lauren Freshman Peter Levine and his research in Trauma  For more on Michelle and her "Find the Shift" program, click here: www.findtheshift.com  Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast.   

This episode is a personal deep dive into Heather Younger’s rich and dynamic life experience and how she helps leaders and companies embrace tactics and skills to improve the employee experience. Heather leads with authenticity and staying attuned to the needs of her client and her audience. Heather is a force of good in the corporate world and brings her life and professional experience to The School of Unlearning.  We cover:  Heather’s core influences growing up and how they shaped her Why Heather feels so strongly in fostering belonging and inclusion  How connection is the foundation for all speaking events and corporate success Heather’s shift from law to corporate people development  How Heather views leadership and employee experience in the corporate world  How Heather walks the walk - leading with presence  What role paying attention and noticing has to do with relationships  Heather’s advice on professionals looking to sharpen awareness What Heather believes self-leadership is and how she embraces this concept  The power of specificity in human communication and feedback  Why listening as a skill is the foundation for everything  For more on Heather, visit https://heatheryounger.com/books/ Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

In this episode with Marni Blank, we explore building community, grief and how planning for the end of life can be empowering for individuals and families. Marni brings immense life and business experience to the podcast and openly shares her career pivots and how she actively works to define success and alignment on her terms. Marni is a certified Death Doula and sheds light on her 7 step process that helps us create a holistic end of life planning.  Follow Marni on Instagram @beginwith_theend and at www.marniblank.com  You will learn: The early influences in Marni's life that led her into the realm of entrepreneurship  Marni's previous work in law and how this influenced her decision to begin begin a creative and entrepreneur  What a Death Doula is and how Marni sees her work as helpful for individuals and families  How Marni had to unlearn what success was and find a definition that aligned for her  The business that Marni started with her sister, Willa in NYC to help build community and what she has learned about running a business with family.  Marni helps us understand why we would want to begin thinking about end of life planning and what her 7 step process is to help people get their policies and logistics in order.  We also discuss how planning for end of life can be scary but it is also generous in nature. Grief gets by passed for many when they are in the weeds of logistics and paperwork and all of us can make space for grief. Marni helps us understand the blocks that get in our way of end of life planning and different ways we can think about it.  "How do you want to be remembered? What does legacy mean to you?"  Marni shares her thoughts on how can mange and process grief  References: "The Wild Edge of Sorrow" by Francis Weller Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast.   

This episode with Health Coach and entrepreneur, Sara McGlothlin empowers each of us to use what life gives us in order to grow. The desire to become an entrepreneur despite what others say and to forge a diverse career in the health and wellness space is no small feat. This episode helps highlight the importance of remaining open and fluid to changing one's diet and health over the years. Sara's journey in unlearning the business world and evolving in her own personal health journey is intuitive and inspiring to any woman looking to feel more grounded in where they are. We dive into unlearning calorie counting, the urge to judge our success based on the number on the scale and moving foods in and out of the diet freely - liberation in health is the theme for this podcast.    About Sara: Sara McGlothlin is a holistic nutritionist, health writer, wellness entrepreneur and yoga/fitness teacher based in Richmond, VA. For years she has been coaching clients on the importance of holistic health and nutrition. Her practice is inspired by her passion of educating others how to live healthier lives. In early January 2019, after publishing her first cookbook, she and her husband Alex launched their natural foods company, Gratisfied, fueled by their desire to make more of an impactful change in the packaged food space. Gratisfied is founded on the mission that there can be a world where nutrition and convenience co-exist. In June of 2020, Sara created her online magazine Healthified and subsequently launched The Healthified Podcast as platforms to share and educate across holistic health topics.    To try the world's best granola bars and health products, check out Gratisfied.    Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

This episode is for anyone who is feeling a sense of unrest or dissatisfaction with their life and who wants to find more joy and meaning. Amy helps us break down why we desire what we desire, what actually drives us to pursue our goals and what key questions we can ask along the way to make sure we are living on purpose.  A favorite part about our today was the nuance that Amy’s work brings to self help and self development. That our greatest learnings and times of growth come when we contract and rumble with hard things - and how we can use that data to better direct our next steps. Amy helps us understand why “should” is a word that potentially carries a lot of heavy energy, riddled with guilt and tension. This episode is HIGH energy, riddled with insights and really really human.  In this episode, you will learn:  Amy's early influences that inspired her into the realm of consciousness and spirituality  How Amy defines "living on purpose"   The pivotal moments that helped Amy move towards being a spiritual being having a human experience How the constant need to control our conditions leads to "efforting" which can be draining and lead to burnout  How to reframe goals, that milestones can be helpful but the feeling of what we believe we want is always most important Amy encourages us to "think as far as it feels good" and then come back to the moment.  What it means to embrace Amy's mantra of "feel it out, don't figure it out!" Amy recommends us to "map our desired feeling state"  Amy encourages to strengthen our body/mind awareness - even the states of constriction as it provides great data for what we want and don't want.  "Accept it all" The more we can learn into contraction, the more we can sit with it and also use this state to learn and grow.  What Amy feels is one of the worst/most dramatic words is!  Inner critic? Learn how to make friends with the constant force of opposition with Amy's approach. How Amy defines unlearning :)  Elisa is a Conscious Leadership Coach and Organizational Consultant, click here to learn more about her work.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram @thesoulpodcast. 

The need for corporate leaders to up level their mindset and approach to work is more relevant and needed than ever. For episode 35 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with Integrative Leadership Coach, Erica Zygelman. Erica has a holistic approach that challenges all leaders to come more fully into alignment, check their integrity and lead from the heart. This episode is a great resource for anyone looking to debunk leadership myths, lean into their growth edge and feel empowered to own how they show up at work more fully. In this episode, you will learn:  What having a brand at work means Why first time managers and senior leaders need to know their “why” so they can lead more consciously  What key influences helped shape Erica’s life and career  What first Erica up about the corporate world The power of agency in one’s career growth  What key assumptions leaders make that make their work more stressful What being an integrative leader means  What advice erica has for first time leaders and leaders wanting to wake up to their potential  Erica’s bio  As an Integrative Leadership Coach, Erica is committed to supporting the next generation of leaders to achieve sustainable success by integrating principles of conscious leadership and holistic wellness. Through this method, she works to equip professionals with tools that shift the paradigm of success from what it looks like on the outside, to how it feels on the inside. Erica has a 15-year track record of leading high-performing corporate managers and teams to build flourishing relationships, scale revenue, and deliver excellent outcomes for world-class organizations. She is passionate about functional medicine, personal development, yoga & mindfulness, and is inspired by international travel, live music, and nature. After a decade and a half in New York City, she currently enjoys exploring her new hometown of sunny San Diego. Erica can be reached at www.ericazygelman.com and follow her on Instagram @ericazygleman  To learn more about Elisa Haggarty, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com and follow The School of Unlearning @thesoulpodcsat on Instagram. 

Today I sit down with behavioral economist, professor and author, Linda Babcock to discuss the power of saying no for women at work.  This podcast interview is for any woman in the workplace who feels stretched thin, frustrated by a lack of advancement in their career and afraid to say no. If you are an organizational leader, this podcast will help you understand how to strategically use your greatest resource by shifting how you allocate and reward non-promotical tasks.  We discuss what an NPT or non-promotable task is, and why women are 50% more likely to volunteer for work that doesn’t advance their career. Linda and her co-authors propose tactical and strategic ways we can empower women in all positions to advocate for their needs by doing an inventory of how they spend their time, understanding the currency their company thrives on and embracing strategies to make sure they spend their time doing work that aligns with their skills and also helps advance their role in the workplace.  Linda’s work is focused on understanding barriers to women’s advancement in the workplace and developing evidence-based interventions to promote a level playing field. She is the founder and director of the Program for Research and Outreach on Gender Equity in Society (PROGRESS), which pursues positive social change for women and girls through education, partnerships, and research. Linda is the James M. Walton Professor in Economics at Carnegie Mellon University and the author of Ask for It: How Women Can Use the Power of Negotiation to Get What They Really Want and Women Don’t Ask: Negotiation and the Gender Divide. “The No Club: Putting a Stop to Women’s Dead End Work” is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble and wherever books are sold. To learn more, visit https://www.thenoclub.com In this episode, you will learn:  What impacts the bottom line is business is how we spend out time  Why companies would benefit from developing their people and the core soft skills What a non-promotable task (NPT) is and how it drains a woman’s capacity to advance her career  Helpful tactics to understand how to say no, or even say “yes, and…” The power of the pause before making decisions How not staying in our zone of genius or even competencies is an energy drain for the employee and the organization 70% of companies believe that DEI initiatives are critical to business success but only 24% of companies formally recognized DEI initiatives as promotable  How female leaders can become more aware and strategic about how they handle personal decisions  How leaders can begin to pay attention to what a “Yes” feels like and how that is the foundation for being more responsible with human resources and time.  How understanding non-promotable tasks and doing an inventory of how we spend out time is very visible and further supports our capacity to direct career advancement.  How real change happens when organizations shift how they allocate and reward work  ________________ Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. She coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

For episode 33 on The School of Unlearning, I sit down with award winning researcher and author of 6 books, Donna Jackson Nakazawa. Donna's work in science journalism was influenced by early life experiences and losses. Donna's most recent work is all about raising awareness about the growing mental health crisis that our young girls are experiencing. Donna uses science, empathy and a felt sense for human suffering to translate stories into movements that spark change. This episode is for every parent, even aunt, every teacher and every coach who is raising a young women and wants to help support their mental health journey. In this episode, we discuss:  Donna's early childhood influences and how they shaped a sense of trust and safety about the world around her  How to tell is the nervous system is regulated or dis-regulated  How stress switches on genes that dis-regulates the nervous system  What motivates and drives Donna to be a writer and a speaker. How we can rewrite internal narratives to work through trauma  How confidence is a backbone for healing trauma, to be able to sit with emotions and narratives and learn to rewrite them.  The power of narrative writing, which combines the past, present and future in a way that can heal.  Science is showing that in the fact of unpredictable chronic stress, things happen immunologically and hormonally in the female body that set the stage for depression that don't happen for males.  Doubling and tripling rates of female mental health disorders which are unprecedented.  The rate of female teen suicide went up 50% over the last decade.  36% of girls report having a major depressive episode before the age of 17. "Girls on the Brink: Helping Our Daughters Thrive in an Era of Increased Anxiety, Depression, and Social Media" is available for pre-order on Amazon, on Barnes & Noble. This book will be released on September 13th.  About Donna: Donna Jackson Nakazawa is an award-winning science journalist, author of seven books, and an internationally-recognized speaker whose work explores the intersection of neuroscience, immunology, and human emotion. Her mission is to explore the science of the mind-body connection and harness it for healing. Her upcoming book, Girls on the Brink: Helping Our Daughters Thrive in an Era of Increased Anxiety, Depression, and Social Media (Random House/Harmony 2022) is available for pre-order now and will be available wherever books are sold this summer). In this book, Donna explores today’s growing adolescent female mental health crisis. Anyone on the front lines of caring for girls today—parents, educators, counselors—knows that girls are more prone to depression and anxiety than ever before. Now we have the science to understand why. During the critical neurodevelopmental window of adolescence a confluence of modern toxic stressors are altering the female stress-immune response in ways that can derail female thriving. Drawing on insights from both the latest science and interviews with girls, Donna guides readers through 15 “antidote” strategies to help teenage girls flourish even in the face of stress, creating a new playbook for how we—parents, families, and the human tribe—can ensure a healthy emotional inner life for all of our girls. About Elisa Haggarty:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.   

For episode 32 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I speak with connection coach and author, Kat Vellos. In a world where friendship and community feel transient and so different from how any of us imagined our worlds to be, Kat Vellos helps us break open human connection with a refreshing approach and perspective on how we can forge and maintain friendships - even as they shift and change. In this episode, we cover how Kat came about the work of researching human connection, what she is actively unlearning and how we can more intentionally build communities and friendships that help us move through life. If there ever was a time where we all needed a reframe human connection and practical tools on how to intentionally build community, this would be it.  On this episode, we cover:  Who influenced Kat as a young adult  How activism and social justice came to be a big part of Kat’s early moments of unlearning  Unlearning productivity is top of mind for Kat and learning the freedom to explore the question of, “when is enough enough?”  What role that leisure and pleasure have to do with productivity  Sufficiency as a concept relating to abundance  What successful friendship and community looks and feels like for Kat  The ability to know the need for connection and reach out for it without hesitation  The gift of reaching out and inviting a friend out  How we can build muscles for connection  What role generosity plays in making connections and friendships  How the pandemic impacted human relationships and friendships  Social stamina and how its impacted our ability to connect What would be nourishing, rejuvenating and connecting with the time and space we have in our lives?  Why anger is a normal response to disconnection and what our emotions can teach us Tips and tools on how to foster adult friendships Bringing intention to the ways we create invitations How Forging adult friendships requires creativity How "hyper mobility" impacts our sense of community  "If you knew you were going to I've at your current address for the rest of your life, what would you do differently to foster friendship and community?"  The role compassion plays in forging relationships in a hyper mobile world. Advice on how to not take things personally if friend hangouts don't materialize References:  Kat mentions the work/writing or Naomi Klein  Devin Price “Laziness doesn’t exist”  Lynn Twist’s book, “The Soul of Money”  The Podcast, "Hurry Slowly", by Jocelyn K. Glei  Susan David, "Emotional Agility"  Kat Vellos is a connection coach and trusted expert on the power of cultivating meaningful friendships. In her former career as a user experience designer, she researched, designed, and advised on the user experience of countless flows in digital products serving millions of people at companies like Slack and Pandora. With the publication of her books, We Should Get Together and Connected from Afar, Kat turned her background in UX design towards combating the loneliness epidemic to help millions of people experience greater wellness and fulfillment through thriving platonic relationships.  My favorite line from Kat is: "Productivity is about what you don't do".  Books and events: weshouldgettogether.com Work: katvellos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/KatVellos Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katvellos_author/   About Elisa Haggarty:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.       

For episode 31 on The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with podcast host and Mental Fitness Coach, Marc Champagne. Marc believes that we are just one questions away from a different day, and perhaps, a different life. We explore what drove him to use questions as a means to find clarity and what he has learned from his interviews of the world's greatest minds. Marc is the author of "Personal Socrates", a book where he examines the minds and core questions that drive the most successful and creative people of our times.  You can learn about Marc on Instagram @behindthehuman and follow his podcast, Behind The Human.    About Elisa Haggarty:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset so they can build high performing teams, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

For episode 30, I sit down with Ksenia Brief, the founder of Breakfast Criminals and host of the Ksenia Brief Podcast. Ksenia and I really let loose on this podcast, we rumble with what it means to use social media responsibly and dive into what it means to follow our divine spark. Ksenia was born and raised most of her life in Moscow and found herself growing up in a world filled with red tape, judgement and consequently craved more connection and creativity. This podcast is like a warm cup of ceremonial cacao, rich and full of secret moments of goodness.  In this episode we cover:  Ksenia’s childhood growing up in Russia and how her brief stint in Australia influenced her sense of self and ability to dream.  "Face Control" was a decisive way to control who got into clubs and who didn't and how this impacted Ksenia's sense of self.  How Ksenia has used and embraced food and meals as a way to express love and build community We wonder where music videos have gone and discuss the impact they had on our imagination and social connection as children  Ksenia's evolution and softening into self worth and remembering who she is beyond awards, social media. Why none of us can skip the step of compassion if we wish to break habits that don't serve us The role of responsibility in sharing stories and in spiritual teachings  The role of playing personas in our life to keep life and relationships novel and playful "It's only hard when we try to be more than human. We didn't come here for easy, we came for evolution our soul was meant to experience." Ksenia Brief About Ksenia:  Ksenia  Brief is the founder of the award-nominated digital platform Breakfast Criminals and the host of the Ksenia Brief Podcast, focusing on expanded consciousness and entrepreneurship in the digital age. Named “35 Under 35 In Wellness'' by Wanderlust and “Top Social Media Coach” by Yahoo Finance, Ksenia is here to merge our inner tech (intuition) with outer tech (social media) for a world where you feel at home to share your medicine. She does it through storytelling, consulting and online programs. She currently lives in a tiny home in the Catskills and can be found drinking ceremonial cacao at sunset. Follow Ksenia's podcast, "The Ksenia Brief" podcast on Apple and Spotify. Her work can also be found on Instagram, @ksenia.brief  About Elisa Haggarty:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love. To learn more about my work, visit www.elisamaryhaggarty.com Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram.   

Jordan’s Dann joins me for episode 29 on The School of Unlearning podcast. This episode is a deeply personal one, and Jordan leads the way by sharing how her childhood experiences have shaped the way she sees relationships and her work as a therapist. This is one of those feel good, wanna hug her through the screen and share with everyone I know podcasts - enjoy the conversation my friends.  In this episode we cover:  How Jordan’s parents and early childhood influenced her view of relationships How moving houses so often helped influence Jordan’s resiliency and strength.  Stumbling upon influential people and theater helped open up a sense of belonging and connection to the body  The role of play in intimacy and connection  How movement helped shape our sense of self and community   How Jordan landed in therapy after years in music and theater.  What somatic therapy and intelligence is and how to use it How presence and noticing influences the way Jordan works with patients and clients.  How to embrace the sympathetic nervous system Why we need to annihilate our need for isolated self growth  What 3 subjects Jordan would add to our school systems What Jordan is actively unlearning these days  Resources If you liked this episode, check out the book Jordan references, “The Body Keeps the Score” by Bessel van der Kolk.  Jordan mentioned the poet, Marge Piercy, click here to read more. About Jordan Dann Jordan's work as a therapist is strongly informed by her clinical training in Gestalt therapy, Imago Relationship Therapy, and Somatic Experiencing. Jordan’s approach to working with clients is a strength-based-trauma-informed approach to support self-healing of the individual. Jordan has a BFA (acting) an MFA (theater education) from Boston University and am a graduate of the Gestalt Associates for Psychotherapy. Jordan is a Nationally Certified and NYS Licensed Psychoanalyst in private practice. She works with individuals, couples, and conduct case supervision in New York City.   Jordan is an avid content creator and I highly encourage you go check out her Instagram account where she shares informative videos and stories that are buzzworth. She has also been featured in MindBodyGreen, NewsBreak, and Psychotherapy Networker.  To follow and work with Jordan, click here.  To learn more about Elisa and her work as a Conscious Leadership Coach, Instagram. 

In this episode for The School of Unlearning, I sit down with the author, founder and CEO of Askinosie chocolate. I first came across Askinosie chocolate via Shawn's book, “Meaningful Work”. I read this book and fell in love with his spiritual and thorough approach to finding a vocation and meaning in our personal lives. I immediately searched for the nearest store that sold Askinosie chocolate and bought a bar. I’ve been hooked ever since.  This episode is deeply personal, a conversation between two people navigating grief, joy, loss, meaning and yes, chocolate. Shawn urges us to look to what breaks our heart in order to find meaning in our lives and in our work.  In this episode you'll hear:  What core learnings Shawn had to endure at age that shaped his worldview on religion and grief. How important the space to talk about grief is and what happens when we don't have that space.  How joy and sorrow are inseparable and how they amplify each other.  The influence of loss and ambiguous loss in daily life How sitting with and moving through grief can build emotional confidence  The origin of Askinosie Chocolate and the values behind it.  What relationship driven chocolate means to Shawn How storytelling makes chocolate taste better :) The importance of space and alone time in finding meaning in life and in work "Begin with your sorrow" to find purpose and meaning in work. Why healing isn't a singular or a linear experience  What Shawn is actively unlearning in the present moment  "Maybe if we combine our sorrow? Maybe that's joy?" Ross Gay    Check out Shawn’s TED Talk here. To enjoy direct trade chocolate made by Askinosie chocolate, click here.  About Elisa:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love.  Follow The School of Unlearning on Instagram. 

On episode 27 for The School of Unlearning, I sit down with professor and author, Luke Burgis. Luke recently wrote the book, "Wanting: The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life" and on this episode he helps unpack what mimetic desire is and how we can more intentionally identify and choose what we want in life. Luke helps us more consciously examine why we want what we want and nudges us through his tactics in the book, to remember what it means to be human.  In this episode you will learn:  How a few core learnings influenced the way Luke grew up How Luke came across the work of French Theorist, Rene Girard on mimetic desire  What mimetic desire is: comes from the Greek work, "to imitate" Why our desire to mimic is innate in all humans and why it's not something we want to get rid of, but rather, intentionally embrace  Why it’s important to question what we desire  Why the drive to become a business "unicorn" is skewing our vision of success What role fear and threat play with mimetic desire How social media highlights and fuels mimetic desire  What role compassion plays in mimetic desire  How emotions like anger can spread the fastest on social media because, "the lack of strong bonds between people, allows anger to spread faster"  How we can view social media as one step in the direction towards connection vs the entire medium to fix complex issues How embracing silence is "spiritual distance" and why this is a key tactic in Luke's book, "Wanting"  How Luke defines unlearning and what he is actively unlearning in the business world   About Luke: Luke Burgis has co-created and led four companies in wellness, consumer products, and technology. He’s currently Entrepreneur-in-Residence and Director of Programs at the Ciocca Center for Principled Entrepreneurship where he also teaches business at The Catholic University of America. Luke has helped form and serves on the board of several new K-12 education initiatives and writes and speaks regularly about the education of desire. He studied business at NYU Stern and philosophy and theology at a pontifical university in Rome. He’s Managing Partner of Fourth Wall Ventures, an incubator that he started to build, train, and invest in people and companies that contribute to a healthy human ecology. He lives in Washington, DC with his wife, Claire, and her crazy New Orleans cat Clotille. About Elisa:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love.  Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership      

On episode 26 for The School of Unlearning podcast, I sit down with Dr. Andrew Hill. Dr. Hill founded Peak Brain Institute which offers neurofeedback, a form of brain training that helps treat depression, anxiety, ADHD and many forms of brain trauma. We cover Dr. Hill's journey into neurofeedback and his take on how we can show up for our brain function through nutrition, brain training and more.  Dr. Hill is one of the top peak performance coaches in the country. He holds a Ph.D. in Cognitive Neuroscience from UCLA’s Department of Psychology and continues to do research on attention and cognition. Research methodology includes EEG, QEEG, and ERP.  He has been practicing neurofeedback since 2003. In addition to founding Peak Brain Institute, Dr. Hill is the host of the Head First Podcast with Dr. Hill and lectures at UCLA, teaching courses in psychology, neuroscience, and gerontology. All listeners of my podcast get 50% off their brain mapping with Peak Brain, go check them out in LA, NYC and St. Louis…and if you aren’t in those spaces, no worries, Peak Brain now offers virtual support with the same high touch care.  In this episode, you will learn:  The pivotal moment that turned Dr. Hill onto the power of the brain’s capacity to heal  How his work in gerontology and many forms of psychiatric care have influenced the way he approaches neurofeedback and patient care  What neurofeedback is and who benefits most from it How to think about making small changes that influence disease  How anxiety is a normal brain circuit and how to rethink the way we frame mental health  The role sugar plays in chronic health conditions  Why western medicine hasn’t helped spread the word on the benefits of neurofeedback but why Dr. Hill is still motivated and hopeful for more people to get this life changing training About Elisa:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love.  Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

On episode 25 for The School of Unlearning podcast, we are joined by author and entrepreneur, Terri Trespicio. Terri's new book, "Unfollow Your Passion" is a provocative inquiry into some of life's common assumptions. This podcast is filled with moments of unlearning about relationships, how we blindly inherent narratives that don't serve us and Terri argues that our best growth comes within our comfort zone, not outside of it.  On this podcast you will learn:  Who has influenced Terri while she was growing up  How comedy has shaped Terri's voice  Why Terri maintains she is at her best when she allows for space in failure and growth Disappointing someone isn't the end of the world, seeking to always please is.  Why our innate drive for connection leads us to accept things that don't serve us.  Why its essential to decide who you will listen to and who you won't.  Terri's relationship with saying, "no", and why saying "no" doesn't always needs to come with an explanation.  How women have been influenced to always feel they need to be in a relationship, and why it's unfair to feel "less than" if you are single. What a "full body yes" feels like Why getting to a "yes" requires a lot of "no's".  Why saying "yes" when you don't need it, it's a recipe for drama.  Why drama is expensive in relationships and on teams.  Why "discomfort isn't a guarantee for growth, its a condition."   Real growth does not come outside of our comfort zone, despite what struggle/hustle culture tells us.  Terri urges us to expand our comfort zone so that we can live and work inside it.  Passion is an experience, not a state, it's not a talent and we need to stop seeking it all the time. Why our needy pursuit of passion is ironically draining us and largely, diverting us from the joy of living.   Terri on unlearning: "When you unlearn, its not a forgetting, its purposeful, learning is the acquisition of knowledge and application in the world, unlearning is amending, its what editing is to writing. Unlearning is the next step of knowledge." Quotes from Terri:  “As soon as you start to monetize something in order to legitimize it, you’ve lost it.” "Passion is when energy is moving through you, where can you allow that to happen? “The minute you get fixed and rigid about finding passion in one thing, you’ve killed your own vibe.”  "Pay attention to where industry or the need to do a thing comes in. Beware of trying to sell or market every last ounce of passion you have.   To learn more about Terri Trespicio, click here.  About Elisa:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and from fear to love.  Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership  

We all know that the rise of technology isn't going anywhere. We also know that there is a spike in mental health concerns worldwide and in this provocative interview, former Google executive and author, Mo Gawdat shares his view on how we can shape the future of technology and AI by simply being better, kinder humans.  In this podcast, you will learn:  How Mo's younger years growing up in in the Middle East influenced his worldview on religion, gender and problem solving. Mo's love for science and math growing up and how this helped shape his confidence and capacity to do meaningful work.   What motivated Mo to bring happiness to millions of people  How science and spirituality merge and compliment each other  How resisting life never equates to peace and happiness  The influence of Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor on Mo's worldview and growth  How the left and right hemispheres work together in synergy  Why computers and technology are already smarter than humans  The 3 tenets that make humans human featured in "Scary Smart" How a moment of alive connection with a stranger is intimate and full of life. What role neuroplasticity plays in our capacity to influence technology and how it shapes us What Mo is unlearning and how he thinks of it as a "coming home"  Follow Mo on Instagram at @mogawdat and his podcast on Apple, "Slo Mo". About Elisa:  I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and  from fear to love.  Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me. Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership  

Bringing your whole self to work was brought onto the scene by author and thought leader, Brene Brown. Bringing your whole self to work has taken on many meanings, and each year, the layers to this concept keep deepening and expanding. In this podcast episode, I expand on what bringing your whole self to work means and also take it one step further. Bringing your whole self to work goes beyond sharing your hobbies, pronouns or personal interests, it means connecting the dots on your core influences growing up and how that has shaped your leadership style.  In this podcast you’ll learn: What bringing your whole self to work means  How Brene Brown defines vulnerability  How the pandemic shifted the way we view work and personal life  What Google’s 5 year study, “Project Aristotle” found as the #1 ingredient their most successful teams have  How I think about bringing your whole self to work  How early moments of trauma and drama can influence the way we lead and show up in work  About Elisa:   I am a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. I coach leaders/executives and teams all over the world to shift their mindset. Together we move from serious to curious and  from fear to love.  Forget what you learned, work is a medium for connection, play and yes, love. Click here to work with me. Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

For episode 22, I sit down with my friend and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and author, Kimberly Ann Johnson to discuss childhood trauma, the nervous system and creating a world of coherence. This episode is deeply personal and essential for any person and any women seeking a vocabulary on how to better regulate their nervous system.  In this episode, you will learn: How early childhood events and trauma helped shape Kimberly’s life and nervous system  How Kimberly sought refuge and confidence in academics growing up What Kimberly’s super power was growing up and what she believes it is now What learning/truth that still stays with Kimberly: “it is the tool or is it the person” What the process of writing “Call of the Wild” was for Kimberly  All about “Call of the Wild” and how its a call for women to move from prey to predator  What the nervous system is and what flight, fight, freeze and fawn are How a sympathetic response is helpful at times The ventral vagal nervous system and how it responses to safety and threat  How pleasure and productivity aren’t at odds with each other  Why we have been socialized to to avoid or weaponize pleasure  Why developing preferences on what we like and don’t like plays a role in our healing process.  How our puritanical inheritance of “put your head down and do it” isn’t service our capacity to enjoy pleasure  How the nervous system occilates and pendulates   What "clean pain" vs "dirty pain" is and how to apply them in life  What it means to have a reparative experience and how this helps us move on from trauma  What kimberley is actively unlearning  How forming a relationship with our elders can help us with our learning and unlearning About Kimberly Johnson Kimberly Johnson is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, birth doula, and postpartum educator who specializes in helping women recover from all from of trauma. In her book, “Call of the Wild”, Johnson offers an eye-opening look at the epidemic of “mind over matter” and a deep dive into how the nervous system responds to difficult events.  Follow her at @kimberly.ann.johnson and her work at www.kimberlyannjohnson.com  Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit.  To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here.  About Elisa Haggarty:  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. To learn more about her and her work, click here.  Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership  

On today’s 5 Minute Friday podcast, I dive into the world of boundaries. What they are, why we struggle to create them and how to start embracing the power of no, for your sake and for those around you.  On this podcast you will learn:  What boundaries are Why babies and animals are expert at setting boundaries  What Brene Brown thinks of people pleasers Why it’s helpful for you and others to create boundaries Why role generosity plays in setting and creating boundaries  My top tips and insights on setting boundaries  My favorite quote from Kelly Corrigan on the power of saying, “no” "Sexually, professionally, personally, saying no takes balls. Little noes prepare us for the big noes that define the major movements of our lives. The job we shouldn't take, the relationship we must leave, the deal that seems shady. No, finally, to another drink, no to abuse, no to getting back together again. No to extreme lifesaving measures.    When we were children, no came easily to the lips. Wear a coat? Turning off the TV? Leaving your sister alone? No chance. But then we became civilized. We aged into self consciousness. Saying no started to feel rude or insubordinate, mean or lazy, withholding or dangerous. There's hardly a positive intention associated with no. Except self-preservation."  Kelly Corrigan   Please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit.  To learn more about Elisa and The School of Unlearning podcast, click here.  About Elisa Haggarty:  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou. Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together. Become a patron here: https://www.patreon.com/thesoulpodcast/membership

In today’s episode, we sit down with Lara Adler, an Environmental Toxins Expert and Certified Holistic Health Coach to discuss her journey of unlearning.  Lara is a wealth of knowledge and in this podcast interview, we take a personal look into what and who has helped shape Lara’s work ethic, view on building a business and the role that environmental toxins play in human health, politics and the environment.  More about Lara Adler: To follow Lara, click here.  To follow Lara on Instagram, check out @environmentaltoxinsnerd  On this episode, you will learn:  How a few select childhood experiences shaped Lara’s view on business The influence of international travel on Lara as a young child How your friends and family are not necessarily your audience when it comes to your business The pivotal moments that influenced Lara to turn her attention to the nutrition and health world  Why Lara decided to focus in on environmental toxins as a health coach  What role environmental chemicals, obesogens impact weight loss resistance  Why Lara shaped her mission on educating the people so they demand chance on an industry level How Lara’s scrappy spirit was developed and how it influenced her ability to create and run a successful business.  The difference between being trauma motivated and empathy motivated and how they may show up in business How the “mechanics” or how of Lara’s work is rooted in trauma that continues to motivate her  How grief and loss in relationships have shaped Lara’s health and eventually, her growth The role mold played in Lara’s health  Lara’s evolution on perfectionism in the health and toxicity space  The importance of nuance in communicating science  What the Dunning Kruger effect is Why communication and context reigns supreme when educating or guiding people  “The best way out is through” - relating to grief or educating a tough work situation, is to be willing to move through it.  What Lara is actively unlearning If you enjoyed this episode, please take the time to rate and review this podcast on Apple podcasts and share with a friend who would benefit.  Elisa's Instagram account The School of Unlearning podcast on Instagram To schedule a discovery call with Elisa on Conscious Living and Leadership Coaching, please click here.  Elisa Haggarty is a Conscious Leadership Coach and host of The School of Unlearning Podcast. Elisa has been a coach for over 18 years- from college basketball to nutrition to more recently helping leaders bring more consciousness and play into their personal and work lives. Her work is influenced by a philosophy and belief that, "life happens for you" which has been a through line for Elisa her entire life. Believing life happens for you begs the question, "how can I learn and grow from whatever is happening?". She has sought to find and create meaning from every chapter of her life and empowers her clients and teams to do the same. From her first heartbreak, first job loss, divorce and enduring the grief that comes with slowly losing her Dad to a rare form of Dementia, Elisa's rich life experience and humble curiosity is what allows others to connect with her, and ultimately themselves in a deeper way. She finds joy in making her friends homemade chocolate and can most often be found hiking or spending time in nature and has two adorable cats, Josie and Lou. Become a Patron! This podcast is and always will be a labor of love and community. I will not be using ads for my podcast to keep our conversations and time together focused and intentional. Thank you for contributing to keep The School of Unlearning ad free. Our learning and unlearning never ends, so let's do this together. Become a patron here!