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The Tea & Trails Podcast
by Edwina Sutton & Gary Thwaites
The Tea & Trails Podcast is a weekly trail running podcast that loves to talk about running, tea and trails. Hosts Edwina & Gary talk about recent ultra races, what's been going on in their lives, coaching and interviewing a variety of runners and race organisers. Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1330576474428708 Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/teaandtrails YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@teaandtrails Reach out if you would like to be involved! - [email protected]
Episodes
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Debs White & Chris Mills - Cape to Glen #263
This week, we're joined by Chris and Debs to chat about the 2027 Cape to Glen, a non-stop 214-mile adventure stretching from Cape Wrath to Glenfinnan. If you've ever pinned on a race bib, there's a good chance Chris or Debs have played a part in your experience. Whether it's event organisation,...
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Training Through The Off Season #262
This week, Eddie shares her Wild Heart Runners weekend experience, packed with learning, trail running, and friendships. Gary heads to Hartlepool parkrun for his first attempt at breaking 20 minutes. Did everything go to plan? Russell and Gary take over the microphones to tackle a Lap and…
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From ‘No Signs of Life’ to Bob Graham Round - Tommy Price #261
Back in 2022, Tommy Price and his friend Max were out on a Bob Graham Round recce when Tommy collapsed with a hypothermia induced cardiac arrest. Max’s quick thinking kicked off a life‑saving chain of events, and more than 30 mountain rescue volunteers raced to help. Tommy was airlifted off the...
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Moab 240 & The Best Shoes of 2026 #260
Gary eases his little feet off the gas this week as all that recent racing finally catches up with him. Meanwhile, Eddie is fully back in the Spine groove, lots of time spent settling into that steady, stubborn Spine Race pace. Overseas, we all saw the Moab 240 get cancelled, a sobering reminder…
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Sophie Raworth #259
Sophie Raworth joins us for a brilliant conversation, journalist, BBC newsreader, author, and a runner with a serious love for the long stuff. Her book Running on Air hit the shelves in 2026, capturing the joy, grit and sheer stubbornness that keeps her lacing up day after day. We chat about life...
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Your Relationship with Running #258
Both hosts are feeling the load from recent races and training. Eddie finally took her foot off the gas, and Gary trotted off to Kielder for the Kielder Marathon. Surprise, surprise, he’s even more tired now. But to be fair, those Kielder trails did serve up an absolutely sensational day out. No...
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5 & 2 Valleys Double #257
Yes… a little indulgent. Well, maybe very indulgent for Gary to share his 5 & 2 Valleys experience, but he’s doing it anyway. Nearly fifty of the most beautiful miles this country has to offer, taking in epic summits, dreamy trails, and sharing it all with thousands of like minded runners. The 13...
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Terrible Mid Race Fuel Choices... #256
Three races. One weekend. Greedy Gary was back at it again, taking on the 5 Valleys Ultra and the 2 Valleys, while Eddie headed to the Ochills Ultra 50. It turned into quite the adventure for her after a full on week of driving up and down the country. Meanwhile, Gary had an absolute blast in the...
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Damian Hall - Run Forever #255
Damian Hall joins us for a lovely, meandering chat about all things running, records, tea, and a bit of football thrown in for good measure. You always get good bang for your buck with Damo, and this episode delivers too. His latest book, Run Forever, hit the shelves earlier this year. It’s a...
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The Unwritten Rules of Running #254
Eddie has levelled up her double threshold game and is loving it. Gary, meanwhile, has had a quiet week of training, two days missed, thanks to life getting in the way and his body whispering, “Mate… be kind to your future self.” This week’s Brew With the Coaches is a good one, especially for our...
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Lucy Gossage - Pennine Way FKT #253
Lucy Gossage joins us today for an absolute powerhouse of an episode. Fresh off the Pennine Way FKT, she’s just conquered 268 miles of bogs, mountains and truly awful weather, all stitched together with joy, grit, friendship and adventure. Anna Troup set a seriously stout record, and it took...
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The Back to Back Long Run #252
Both hosts are well and truly in the groove of training, tackling long runs, hard sessions, parkruns, and hitting the weights too. We also dive into the world of the double-threshold workout day, as Eddie slips a double-day into her week! We've got a V50 Heavy Flex, plus a remarkable feat of…
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Laura Watts - Badwater #251
This week we sit down with Laura Watts, fresh off her brilliant run at the Leeds & Liverpool Canal Race. An awesome victory, made even more impressive considering she’s still not fully recovered from her fifth finish at Badwater. We absolutely loved this chilled chat with Laura. From bumping into...
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2027 Ultra Race Guide #250
Eddie’s been busy heading south this week, supporting Lucy Gossage as she storms her way down the Pennine Way on a record breaking FKT. Meanwhile, Gary popped north of the border and treated himself to some glorious East Lothian trails. Over on Strava, the miles are big, the birthday shout‑outs…
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Anna Rutherford - Laura Swanton-Rouvelin - Race Across Scotland #249
We all know nothing is guaranteed in ultra running, and the longer the race, the higher the jeopardy climbs. This week, we share the story of two runners who are no strangers to the sharp end of some of the UK’s toughest events. Both lined up at the 2026 Race Across Scotland, but their races...
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The Ultimate Warm Up Guide #248
Gary has been racing! Well… not quite racing, but he definitely wasn’t taking it easy. Either way, he loved his time up on the Moors at the Hardmoors Roseberry Topping Trail Marathon. Eddie’s been in full entertainment mode, and with the kids finally back at school it’s back on the horse…
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Marc Laithwaite - Lakeland 50 & 100 #247
As the ballot opens for the 2027 Lakeland 50 & 100, we thought it was the perfect time to spend an hour with one of the main men behind the event, Marc Laithwaite. Marc brings a mix of funny, heartwarming, and genuinely inspiring stories that capture exactly why this race is so special. And…
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Crush Your A Race Taper #246
This week we kick things off with two brilliant listener intros, and, believe it or not, both hosts are out there getting after it and building some fitness. It’s all very upbeat at the moment. Long may this new trend continue! We’ve also got a smoking fast potential Dragon looking for advice…
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Will Howard - Lakeland 100 3rd Place #245
Will Howard joins us on Tea & Trails to share the remarkable story behind his debut at the Lakeland 100. In his first ever crack at the course, Will stormed to 3rd place, announcing himself as one of the freshest, most exciting new names in UK ultra running. From a childhood spent trying every...
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UTMB Top Tips #244
We are shaking things up this week! Simon from Run the Wild shares his top 5 UTMB tips. To be honest these with serve you well whatever the trail ultra you choose. Run the Wild - https://runthewild.co.uk/ Stu & Eddie have a brew with the coaches takeover as we follow Eddies journey to the 2027...
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Charlotte Mountford - ADHD & Autism in Ultra Running #243
This week we’re catching up with Charlotte Mountford. We first met Charlotte on a frosty Tea & Trails Ultra recce, she later reached out to see if we’d be up for a chat about neurodivergence in ultra running, and of course we said yes. Charlotte has been diagnosed with ADHD and autism, so we dive...
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What to Do After a DNF #242
Eddie’s been racking up the miles in Morzine, catching up with friends and cruising around familiar trails. Fun times in the mountains! Meanwhile, Gary was nervously pinning on a race number at the Hardmoors Farndale Trail Marathon… which, was actually 28.5 miles. Better value for money, though!...
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Sam Shepherd - Head of Sports Science #241
This week we’re joined by Sam Shepherd, Head of Sports Science at Precision Fuel & Hydration. Sam came to Precision after twelve years as a Lecturer and Reader at Liverpool John Moores University, where he specialised in exercise metabolism — particularly how the body uses carbohydrates and fats,...
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Group Run Etiquette #240
Both hosts have been out getting their miles in. Eddie’s been gallivanting around the mountains on a hen weekend, while Gary kept things a bit more local but still managed to squeeze in plenty of fun. Happy to report: legs intact & spirits high. Meanwhile, you lot have been absolutely flying over...
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Jenny Hartley - Summer Spine Champ #239
It’s the second time Jenny Hartley has joined us on the Tea & Trails Podcast, and she’s had quite the adventure since her last visit. The Invictus Games and Gladiators athlete has been busy up on the Pennine Way, setting off from Edale with one big goal in mind, to complete the Summer Spine Race....
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Lakeland Reflections & Finding Your Feet When the Mojo Slips #238
Gary is back from another epic and equally wonderful lakeland 50 and 100 weekend. Being on the Hardmoors checkpoint gave him a wonderful insight into the race from the front to the back of the field. Both hosts have been running and their weeks looked like normal training. You lot, meanwhile…
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Gabe Joyes #237
Gabe Joyes is a mountain runner, adventurer, and family man based in Lander, Wyoming. Known for tackling rugged, steep, and fiercely competitive mountain ultras, he’s constantly pushing the limits of what’s possible in training, racing, and mountain adventures. When he’s not roaming some of North...
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Lakeland 50 & 100 Top Tips #236
It’s almost back to normal for our co‑hosts this week, both have actually been out doing a bit of training! You lot, meanwhile, have been absolutely crushing it over on Strava, and we’ve got not one but two Heavy Flexes this week And our Tales from the Trails comes from somewhere truly special…
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Trish Patterson - National Three Peaks FKT #235
This week our very own Trish Patterson joins us to share all the gory details from her record‑breaking National Three Peaks Challenge. What’s the challenge, you ask. The National Three Peaks involves summiting the highest mountains in Scotland, England and Wales. Most people drive between the...
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The Ultimate Guide to Training on Holiday #234
We are back! Thank you all so much for your patience while we both grabbed some much‑needed family time. I’d love to say we’re refreshed… but the grind never really stops, and the heroic amount of food and drink Gary put away is starting to take its toll. Time to slam the cookie jar shut before...
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Ed Payne - From DNF to Spine Champion #233
This week’s guest turned a 2025 DNF into a winning performance. After the heartbreak of last year, Ed Payne came back swinging, and what a comeback it was. A superb race saw him kiss the wall in just over 82 hours, taking the overall win at the 2026 Montane Summer Spine. Eddie’s flying solo on...
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Running After Surgery #232
Western States weekend delivered in style, and how good was it to see Fi Pascall smashing a huge course PB. Absolutely massive effort, kudos, Fi. We’ve also got a very emotional listener intro, live from the 2026 Summer Spine Race, Rebecca helps runners who are finding their running legs again...
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Anna Rutherford - Ultra Scotland 100 Champ #231
This week, we sit down for a chat with Ultra Scotland 100 champion, Anna Rutherford. Anna made history as the first ever female to win the Ultra Scotland 100-mile ultramarathon. Not only did she take the overall win, she smashed the previous course record — finishing in 20 hours, 53 minutes, and…
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Over the Hill or Just Getting Started? #230
Both hosts have actually been out running this week, nothing wild, still baby steps for them both, but you can hear it already… that little lift in their voices. They’re loving having the wind in their faces again, even if it’s only for a few miles at a time. The coaches dive into a great…
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David Miller - SPINE #229
This week we were lucky enough to spend an hour with the incredible David Miller. It was such a treat to hear the stories behind so many of the iconic images that define our sport. It turned into a super‑relaxed chat about running, Zoom vs Teams, the Barkley Marathons, and of course his upcoming...
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Cross Training & Who's Your Dream Pacer? #228
It’s a bit of a rambling episode this week, but both hosts are noticeably more upbeat, and it won’t be long before they’re uploading runs to Strava again. We cover cross‑training, breastfeeding while training, pleasuring yourself (yes… that happened), and the all‑important question, who would be...
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Laura Swanton-Rouvelin - Hardmoors 200 Champ #227
Inov‑8 athlete and past Tea & Trails guest Laura Swanton‑Rouvelin joins us this week for another deep dive into all things Hardmoors 200. It was a gutsy move from Laura to come back and defend her title especially in a race where there is so much jeopardy. But she did it. Laura crossed the line…
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Are Runners Getting Lazy? GPS or Map? #226
Even though Eddie and Gary are on the rebuild, they’re still somehow busier than a Greggs on match day. Gary’s had a short stay in the comparison trap, but a chance encounter with a real‑life hero gave him the reality check he needed. Both hosts also find themselves openly thirsting over an…
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UTS 100K - Katie Kars-Sijpesteijn #225
This week we’re sharing the mics with friend of the show Katie Kaars-Sijpesteijn. A Salomon and GB athlete, Katie has lined up, and podiumed, at some of the most competitive races out there. But the last 12 months have taken her down a very different path as she chased a sub‑3 road marathon. Not...
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Run Less, Gain More #224
This week, both hosts are… well, struggling. Gary is still absolutely smashed to bits from his first 200‑mile adventure, and Eddie is improving, but living with the uncertainty of injury is tough. So, for Brew with the Coaches, it’s just Gary and Trish, which basically means Trish is doing all…
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Gary Thwaites - Hardmoors 200 Champ #223
Ten years ago, Gary popped his 100‑mile cherry on the Cleveland Way. Countless miles have been covered between then and now, but after a bit of refocusing found himself back on a start line, this time for the Hardmoors 200. Starting in Hull, the route winds through wooded slopes, over rolling...
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Hardmoors 200 - Recover like a Pro #222
This week, Gary is back from a very successful Hardmoors 200. It’s not our full recap, but he shares some thoughts and takeaways from the whole 200 mile experience, and it’s fair to say his emotions are easily triggered right now. Eddie is still on the injury bench, which is rough. Small gains…
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Kim Collison - Lakes, Meres & Waters Record #221
We’re incredibly lucky this week to share the mics with a true legend of our sport. Kim Collison has taken on, and completed, some of the UK’s roughest, toughest challenges. And it’s not all about going long either. He’s just as happy toeing the line at a local fell race. Kim joins us to talk…
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Hardmoors 110 & 200 - Race Week #220
It’s finally here. The training is done, the excuses are gone, and Gary, along with a whole crew of wonderfully stubborn athletes, is about to set off on an adventure that will push every limit they’ve got. There’ll be moments of doubt, a few questionable life choices, and probably more than one...
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Freya Shepherd - West Highland Way - Great Glen FKT #219
This week we’re joined by physics teacher and West Highland Way – Great Glen FKT holder, Freya Shepherd. It’s an incredible story of learning, grit and resilience. After her first attempt ended early at Fort William, Freya dusted herself off, rallied an army of friends and family, and went back…
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Cocodona 250 & How to Avoid Hitting the Wall #218
This week on the Tea & Trails podcast, Gary squeezed in a Bob Graham support and a race. Not exactly the textbook taper, but he had such a cracking weekend and wouldn’t change a thing. And unbelievably, after all those months of graft, the Hardmoors 200 is now just one week away. Meanwhile, Eddie...
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Stu Edwards - Reverse London Marathon #217
We are so lucky to bring you the brilliant Stu Edwards this week. Stu is part of the team behind the Reverse London Marathon, and if you’re wondering what that is, you’re in for a treat. It’s an incredible community who gather in Trafalgar Square the night before the London Marathon and run the...
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Stair Steppers & The Back to Back Long Run #216
This week on the Tea & Trails podcast we’re talking all things Stair Stepper, how to use it, when to use it. Neither Gary nor Eddie are exactly Stepper superfans, but we know plenty of you swear by it for your vert, so we’re diving in. Eddie also pops on her coaching hat to chat about the classic...
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Barney Plummer - 2026 Fellsman Champ #215
This week we sit down with the very talented, and equally humble, Barney Plummer. The Helm Hill athlete has been making serious waves on the UK trail scene, stacking up wins and course records at some of the country’s most competitive races. It was his first time on Tea & Trails, which meant the...
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Goal Race Recovery Tips #214
The Hardmoors 200 is looming ever closer, and Gary is… well, wobbling again. Not the training week he dreamed of, but definitely the one he got. Meanwhile, Eddie has been spinning every solo‑parenting plate in the cupboard while still grinding through her Spine Race prep. At least the trails...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Tea & Trails Podcast is a weekly trail running podcast that loves to talk about running, tea and trails. Hosts Edwina & Gary talk about recent ultra races, what's been going on in their lives, coaching and interviewing a variety of runners and race organisers.
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1330576474428708
Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/teaandtrails YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@teaandtrails
Reach out if you would like to be involved! - [email protected]
HOSTED BY
Edwina Sutton & Gary Thwaites
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