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The View Looks Good
by Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk
Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk on leadership and the impact of the state you lead from. Conversations about pressure, presence, burnout, and what becomes available when the nervous system isn't managing threat. Sometimes just us. Sometimes sharing space with a leader who knows the terrain.Music by Anastasia Chubarova.Visit theviewlooksgood.com to find out more about what we offer.
Episodes
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S4 E10: Grounded Leadership: A Conversation with Ramona Fellermeier
In this episode, we’re joined by Ramona Fellermeier, founder of Cura Spaces, for a rich and reflective conversation about building a business that is deeply aligned with who you are. Ramona shares her journey of creating Cura Spaces and how her approach to organisational team and leadership...
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S4 E9: Are you in relationship with money?
In this episode, Ann and Kim place money on the table — not as a problem to solve, but as a relationship to notice. What begins as a conversation about discomfort, avoidance, and judgement slowly opens into something softer: a sense that money can be met with curiosity, connection, and even care....
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S4 E8: Understanding Children's Emotions
In this episode, Ann and Kim talk about what’s really going on beneath children’s big emotions – and why the first step is almost always to regulate ourselves as parents. They unpack simple anchors like “connect before you correct” and the “regulate, relate, reason” flow to help you navigate…
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S4 E7: The Highs and Lows of Comparing Ourselves
In this conversation, Ann and Kim explore the pervasive nature of comparison in human behaviour and the impact of judgment on self-worth. They discuss how social media amplifies comparison and the various emotional responses it triggers before shifting the dialogue towards finding growth through...
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S4 E6: Grrr...so much workplace hostility!
In this eye-opening episode, we delve into the staggering impact of incivility in the workplace, where $2 billion is lost daily in the US due to reduced productivity and absenteeism. Join us as we explore the subtle yet powerful effects of rude and disrespectful behaviour, and how it undermines...
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S4 E4: Meeting our Edges
Ann and Kim explore the discomfort and beauty of encountering our personal edges—the moments when we feel completely full, stretched to capacity, and perhaps at the limits of our capabilities. Rather than seeing these edges as boundaries signalling failure or limitation, this episode invites us…
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S4 E5: Leadership that Answers the Call of a Country
How do you lift people to their greatest potential when your country has a legacy of authoritarian leadership that has kept people's identities and their value in small boxes? Nkululeko Dwight Sibiya and Sifiso Ripinga are doing just this in Gauteng, South Africa. They join Ann and Kim to share...
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S4 E3: The Power of Spaciousness: A Conversation with Noella Moshi
In this deeply grounding episode, we’re joined by the luminous Noella Moshi—consultant, TEDx speaker, and all-round dynamic and compassionate catalyst for change in the world of leadership and impact. Together, we explore the evolution from overextension to spaciousness, from identity shaped by...
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S4 E2: It Was There All Along: A Conversation with Sarah Pritzl
This week, we’re joined by Sarah Pritzl — ideas coach, founder of Anomaly, and a quietly joyful force in the world of creativity. Together we explore what it means to live and work from a Nervous System-First perspective - where ideas aren’t just fleeting thoughts, but living entities we’re in...
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S4 E1: The Word Was Energy
We’re back with Season 4! And in this opening episode, we’re talking about energy. We reflect on the energy behind The View Looks Good - how it began as a voice for our hearts, and became a shared space to explore a more soulful, human way of living and working. We talk about the kind of energy...
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S3 E7: One Self, Many Contexts
After two exciting (and slightly giddy) days of diving into strategic thinking for The View Looks Good, Kim and Ann sit down to share their energy and insights in this episode. Here, they challenge the notion that we’re fundamentally different in our personal and professional lives. In reality,...
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S3 E6: A Festive Slowdown Meditation
Instead of our usual chat, we wanted to offer you a chance to slow down and connect with the beauty of this time of year by sharing a guided meditation. We wish you and all those around you a wonderful festive season filled with connection that makes your heart zing!
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S3 E5: Digesting Life to Evolve
In this episode Ann and Kim discuss the concept of 'digesting' difficult moments and how important this is to move through life with ease. Do you clear the emotional debris that builds up? Have you got techniques that you consciously use to clear out this debris? Have you felt the growth from…
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S3 E4 : Your Resistance is the Place to Start
Ever noticed your resistance to parts of your life, to particular people, to particular projects or work? Slow down enough and you will notice it tells some powerful stories about your beliefs and stuck emotions on these subjects. In this episode Ann gets Kim to unexpectedly explore her…
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S3 E3 bonus: The Power of Pause: Redefining Productivity for Growth
In this conversation, Kim and Ann explore the dynamics of productivity and inactivity, emphasising the importance of recognising and valuing different states of being. They discuss how societal coding often equates productivity with worth, leading to feelings of inadequacy during inactive…
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S3 E3: Competitive to connected: The evolutionary path to successful collaboration
In this episode, Kim and Ann delve into the profound evolution of human connection. Through candid and energising dialogue, they unpack the unseen forces shaping our relationships—our personal states, the fawn response, and the tension between competition and collaboration. Together, they explore...
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S3 E2: Evolving from the Judgment Trap
In this conversation, Kim and Ann explore judgment—its role in personal growth, relationships, and communication, and how it can trap us. They discuss how judgment can lead to dysregulation and impact our ability to connect with others, and they share ways to shift from judgment to compassion.…
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S3 E1: From Victim to Creator: A Journey of Conscious Evolution
Kim and Ann dive deep into the transformative journey of conscious evolution, helping us move from a victim mindset to a creator mindset. They explore the powerful concepts of the Karpman drama triangle—victim, persecutor, and rescuer—and how understanding these dynamics can spark personal…
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S2 E15: Launching our online community
Welcome to the final episode of season two, where Kim and Ann reflect on their journey of building an online community space from scratch. Join them in celebrating the launch of their community space at The View Looks Good, and discover the lessons they've learned along the way. This season has...
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S2 E14: Belonging
What comes first: waiting for the perfect conditions to belong, or choosing to belong and discovering perfection in the present moment? In this week's episode, Kim and Ann delve into the transformative power of choosing to belong. Whether it's in a relationship, within an organization, to our…
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S2 E13: What does movement look like in a ventral business?
Turning ideas into tasks and actions can easily trigger our nervous systems into a swing state. When two or more people collaborate, the increased complexity makes these swings even more likely, often leading to doubt, fear, and an inability to achieve our goals. However, with conscious awareness...
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S2 E12: Building a ventral lifestyle to build a ventral business
In this episode Kim and Ann take a step back from the nitty-gritty of business building and reflect on the expansive landscape of life itself. Exploring how finding our ventral state in every facet of our lives contributes to the foundation of a successful venture. Living and creating in ventral…
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S2 E2: Building a business from a ventral state
We've been putting off sharing this detail...our nervous systems have been swinging all over the place! But in a moment of some grounding it made complete sense to say - we're building a business from a ventral state and we want you to be part of it! So here is the first episode of the new season...
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S2 E3: Decision making from ventral
Sensing the system. Listening to our nervous system to hear what are the next steps we take to build a ventral business. As we explore different avenues to progress our business, our nervous system is triggered. What can feel like extending or retreating is useful information to help us better...
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S2 E11: Building a ventral business is building an anti-racist organisation
In this episode, Kim and Ann embark on a journey to unpack the impact of deep nervous system intelligence on conversations surrounding anti-racism, anti-colonization, and all discussions related to Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI). As we navigate through conversations about EDI, it's common...
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S2 E10: Conscious Evolution
Today we delve into the fascinating realm of conscious evolution. We're taking a close look at a question that's likely crossed many minds: Why does personal development often feel like an uphill battle? But fear not, because we've got some comforting insights to share. It turns out, it doesn't...
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S2 E9: Healing the Marketing Wound
Dive into the discussion of marketing with Kim and Ann as they unravel its mysteries in this podcast episode. If you've ever felt a bit jittery about marketing, fear not—this one's for you. Together, they embark on a journey of self-discovery, exploring how our nervous systems react to the enigma...
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S2 E8: Conversations with a special guest, Inma Andres
In this episode, we have the pleasure of sitting down with our friend, Inma Andres. She wears many hats - fundraiser, yoga teacher, daughter, mother, partner, entrepreneur, and above all, a remarkable human being. Throughout our conversation, we delve into three main topics: Inma's Journey and...
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S2 E7: The dreaded doubt (or maybe just an interesting sensation)
Over the last 3 weeks Kim and Ann have taken turns to feel the sensations of doubt, anxiety of "not doing enough", anxiety of "not earning enough"... all the sensations that are very normal when you are starting something new and yet still very uncomfortable. Join us in this episode to explore...
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S2 E6: The vulnerable episode - relational tension
Tension and disconnection doesn't have to lead to full on storming and conflict. In this episode Kim and Ann take you along their journey where they have experienced discomfort and disconnect between each other. Some lessons learnt: Own the swing - yes you are swinging. Take responsibility for...
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S2 E5: Connectivity and connection
So often we "disconnect" ourselves from others, from nature, from the system and even from ourselves. Kim and I explore how this disconnection has affected us, and how "connection" has helped us reduce anxiety, make better connections in our thinking and grow (personally and in our work). We are...
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S2 E4: Circling the drain
An exploration of the process of allowing ideas to percolate and settle before taking action... our "circling the drain." In this episode, we share our responses to circling the drain. That includes the difficulties we have experienced as well as what we have done to make it an enjoyable process.
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S2 E1: Welcome to season 2
Welcome to season 2 of the View Looks Good! In this season we will be exploring what it takes to build a business from ventral. But before we take you along that journey with us, we take a moment to recap the various disciplines and theories that influence our work. Some of the disciplines that...
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Keeping appetite throughout big change moments
Kim shares the big change she is going through and all it is unearthing in her. We also wrap up season 1 as we take a short break before kicking off season 2.
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#NotOnBrand
A light hearted episode where Ann gets really self-conscious and totally not on brand, Kim thoroughly enjoys playing with the hashtag and both of us admit the times when we're consciously not on brand. May you find it easier to be human too.
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The hangover
Exploring how we can complete big projects, events, workshops etc without having that dreaded work hangover.
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Jill Granville - exploring personal growth and our nervous system responses
In this episode, we welcome a special guest, Jillian Granville, to explore the work and philosophies of PRH (Personality and Human Relations). PRH is an adult education training provider. It offers a simple, yet far reaching method for deepening your awareness of your potential, goodness and...
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The Settling Process
Ann gets curious about Kim’s recent swing of emotion and the recoding of mindsets that needs time to return to a ventral state.
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Andrew Monk - Experimenting with a Ventral State
We are so excited to share this interview with you. On the Journey in Transformational Leadership programme in 2022, Kim and Ann invited Andrew Monk, Executive Director of Global Engagement at Bristol University to share his experience working from a Ventral State with the cohort. Now we can…
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The One Where Ann Redefines ‘Community’
When you are stuck in a nervous system swing what do you need? Some selfishness and people around you who believe in you as more than your stress state! Isn’t that community…?
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What’s your Nervous System got to do with Goal Setting?
We set targets and goals all the time. Daily goals, quarterly and annual targets, professional development goals, team goals. But have you ever stopped to understand if they are driven by fear? Or the impact of communicating them from stress states? Ann and Kim pull out a whirlwind discussion.
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Renegotiating your Identity
When you realise your nervous system is responsible for how you behave in different situations and ‘who you are’ is different when you work from a Ventral Vagal nervous system it can be necessary to redefine how you describe yourself. How easy is that? Ann and Kim discuss.
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Please Can We Develop an Appetite for Big Emotions?
Mindfulness encourages us to be present with difficult emotions. Ann and Kim talk about the idea of ‘appetite’ for them. Going beyond being comfortable with big emotions to sitting with curious readiness for them.
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We Need to Stop Running Away from Feeling Small!
In this episode Ann opens up about a week of feeling a lot of Dorsal retreating aka 'small' energy and how this doesn't fit with her 'personality' so its so easy to make it wrong. What happens if you take away the story of 'small being wrong'? How can you use it to help you find more presence and...
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What does it feel like when you are in Balance?
Ann and Kim discuss the strange polarity of feeling alive and calm all at once in a balanced Ventral state. Have you ever experienced it?
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The Downfalls of Making Someone Wrong - The Upside of Embracing Others Beliefs
Picking up from the last episode Ann and Kim talk about ‘rejecting’ someone else’s beliefs in order to find helpful ones for yourself and discuss the perils of doing this from your fear state nervous system. What does it sound like from a Ventral Vagal nervous system?
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Be more Beech Tree?
Ann and Kim compare life as a leader with the Beech tree and how we set boundaries to self preserve.
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How we got started and why!
Find out what is driving this Leadership podcast and become a part of it in the future.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk on leadership and the impact of the state you lead from. Conversations about pressure, presence, burnout, and what becomes available when the nervous system isn't managing threat. Sometimes just us. Sometimes sharing space with a leader who knows the terrain.Music by Anastasia Chubarova.Visit theviewlooksgood.com to find out more about what we offer.
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Ann de Passos and Kim van Niekerk on leadership and the impact of the state you lead from. Conversations about pressure, presence, burnout, and what becomes available when the nervous system isn't managing threat. Sometimes just us. Sometimes sharing space with a leader who knows the terrain.Music...
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