PODCAST · health
This Whole Life
by Pat & Kenna Millea
How does our mental health relate to our faith? How can we become whole while living in a broken world? Every day, we all strive to encounter God amidst the challenges of balancing faith and family, work and leisure, our sense of self and complicated relationships. Pat & Kenna Millea bring joy, hope, and wisdom to those who believe there *is* a connection between holiness and happiness. Kenna is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist; Pat served for 15 years as a youth minister; together they have 7 children and a perfectly imperfect marriage. From their education and experience, they share tools, resources, interviews, and stories that point the way to sanity and sanctity. (Music: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.)
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In good times...and in bad: Storytellers #25
Marriage is a gift, and not just for the birthdays, Christmases, and highlights. God has given us our spouse for the depths of suffering, too. Pat reflects on his role in the deaths of three of Kenna's family members back in 2021, and the various ways he supported her in the hardest moments....
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Ep111 Understanding the States of Grief Through Faith
"He's the perfect image of grief, in the sense of accepting, embracing, expressing the emotional sadness, and also having full trust and hope in the resurrection." ~ Pat Millea Why do grief "stages" set people up to feel like they're doing it wrong? Is it okay to be angry with God after a loss?...
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An Angel in El Paso: Storytellers #24
Sometimes God sends angels to save your life. And to let you watch the Super Bowl. Manny Huerta is back for another Storytellers! Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit…
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Ep110 Is Self-Care Christian?
"When you throw in the idea of self-care, that makes a lot of Christian people cringe and run away, because what it sounds like is self-interest, self-indulgence, and pride." ~ Pat Millea Is wanting rest actually a form of pride, or is refusing rest the real problem? What does the prophet Elijah,...
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"You're in!": Storytellers #23
When you took your college visit, did you know what that college was located? Pat & Kenna take a look back in this Storytellers! Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit…
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Ep109 I’m Married to a Marriage Therapist: Here’s What I’ve Learned
"There is always, always hope in any marriage, and I mean any marriage." ~ Pat Millea Is it actually okay for a Catholic couple, even ones who work in mental health, to go to marriage counseling? Why might your spouse asking to talk about feelings not be a criticism of who you are? Does having a...
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Our Son Was Almost Born In A Toilet: Storytellers #22
"I need you to have this baby literally anywhere else." 😂 Storytellers is back with a story that Kenna remembers the details of far better than Pat does. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an...
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Ep108 What "Offering It Up" Actually Means (And When It Isn't Healthy)
"Getting help and offering it up are not mutually exclusive." ~ Pat Millea Does "offering it up" mean you're not allowed to also go to the doctor, take medication, or see a therapist? Is it possible to chase suffering in a way that's actually about proving something to yourself instead of uniting...
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"Lord, I'm sorry.": Storytellers #21
In a moment of conversion, what else is there to say? Chase Crouse joins This Whole Life again to tell the defining story of his faith. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event...
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Ep107 How Physical Health Impacts Your Mental and Spiritual Health with Chase Crouse
"If I can't say no to the Big Mac, or if I can't get my body to move intentionally, there's an element of self-mastery I don't possess. And so therefore I cannot give." ~ Chase Crouse What does John Paul II's Theology of the Body actually have to do with skipping the gym or ordering the Big Mac?...
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The Halloween I Didn't Get Kidnapped: Storytellers #20
What does Captain Jack Sparrow do when he thinks he's dealing with the cartel? Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us…
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Ep106 How to Forgive Someone Who Never Apologizes
"Someone owes you something, is indebted to you, and you let go of that debt. It's like it's written on an IOU, and you're tearing it up and throwing it to the wind." ~ Kenna Millea What does real forgiveness actually require, and why isn't "forgive and forget" a Christian idea at all? Why does…
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Lost in Guatemala, Or A Youth Minister's Nightmare: Storytellers #19
Sometimes it's important to take the road MORE traveled. But Will Johnson lived to tell the tale. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit us online at...
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Ep105 How to Survive (and Actually Thrive) in the Early Years of Parenthood
"Day after day after day, you and I would just wake up and feel like we were underwater. Could not get our head above water, could barely breathe." ~ Pat Millea What does it actually take to survive the "fog of war" years of early parenthood without losing yourself or your marriage? Why might...
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The Sex Talk That Wasn't: Storytellers #18
Talking to your teen about sex is so good and important, but it can be vulnerable and uncomfortable. Trust us... Kenna knows. 😂 Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit…
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Ep104 You Are Good: Even When You Don't Feel Like It
"You, friend, listening to this, watching this right now, you are good. Period." ~ Pat Millea What's the real difference between failing at something and believing you are a failure? Why does the world have a vested interest in convincing you your worth is something you have to go earn? What...
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How I Met Your Mother: Storytellers #17
The Millea family's origin story. How were Pat & Kenna struck by the lightning bolt of romance? It all started with a subpar early 2000s rom com... Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode…
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Ep103 Addicted to Hustle: What Your Busyness Is Really Covering Up
"When we are busy, we are numbed out to this sense of inadequacy that we all know is real. Deep, deep, deep down." ~ Kenna Millea What does it actually look like to be addicted to the hustle and not even realize it? How does staying perpetually busy become a coping strategy for the deeper…
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"I Want To Come Home.": Storytellers #16
What is a parent to do when their child leaves home and really struggles? Paul & Rachel Balducci share a story of heartache and hope that you need to hear, no matter how old your kids are. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join...
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Ep102 Raising Sons Who Actually Know Who They Are with Paul and Rachel Balducci
"The most transformative thing you can do as a parent is to know who you are in God's eyes." ~ Rachel Balducci What does it actually look like to raise boys into men of faith and character? How do you stay united as parents when the chaos of a house full of boys threatens to divide you? What do…
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Tacos Sent Her To Counseling: Storytellers #15
The human desire for connection and relationship is real and powerful. Especially when tacos are involved. Vonda Tiede, LMFT tells her side of the story. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an...
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Ep101 What Couples Therapy Is Actually Like (And Why Most People Wait Too Long)
"I love for people to come when the pipes leak instead of when they burst." — Vonda Tiede, LMFT Why do so many couples wait years before finally seeking help? What actually happens in the therapy room, and what is the therapist really doing? Are there situations where couples therapy can do more...
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The Worst Dinners Make The Best Stories: Storytellers #14
What started with fun & games ended with tears, injury, and...a real mess. You think your family dinners are out of control? You're not alone. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an...
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Ep100 How to Actually Pray Together as a Couple (Without It Being Weird)
"Being connected to your spouse in prayer, even when things are hard, maybe especially when things are hard, is one of the best ways to know that person." ~ Pat Millea Why do so many couples want to pray together but never actually do it? What do you do when you feel too vulnerable, too proud, or...
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Hikers Survive Moose Attack: Storytellers #13
"What...what are those?" Don't miss this harrowing tale of escape, invisibility, and survival from Dr. Julia Sadusky 🫎😱 Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit us…
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Ep99 Talking to Your Kids About Sex | Dr. Julia Sadusky
"There is literally nowhere else on the face of the earth I'd rather you go than to me." ~ Dr. Julia Sadusky Why do so many well-meaning Catholic parents freeze when it comes to talking to their kids about sex? What do you actually say when your child comes home asking about their classmate’s...
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Wait...who's on their way to our house?! Storytellers #12
Communication in marriage is important. Especially when it involves someone recently released from prison. Peter & Debbie Herbeck are back with some hilarious stories of (mis)communication & forgiveness. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of...
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Ep98 What 40 Years of Marriage Actually Teaches You About Christ | Peter & Debbie Herbeck
"The love of Christ was the magnetic force that really drew us together." ~ Debbie Herbeck What does it actually take to keep Christ at the center of a marriage through decades of real life? What do you do when one spouse is further ahead in faith than the other? How do you build a family culture...
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Born at 26 Weeks & a Saint's Prayers: Storytellers #11
"We love you, St. Charbel." Who knew those words might have been the ones to save her baby's life? Listen in to this moving story from St. Faustina Maria Pia! Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss…
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Ep97 How to Trust God When Life Doesn’t Make Sense | Sr. Faustina Maria Pia, S.V.
“The graces of My mercy are drawn by means of one vessel only, and that is — trust. The more a soul trusts, the more it will receive.” ~ Jesus, to St. Faustina - Why is it so hard to trust God? - What does it mean to say “yes” when life doesn’t make sense? - How do we trust God in suffering,...
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An Ode to Grandmas: Storytellers #10
Grandmothers can have a beautiful impact on us, even when our families are far from perfect. Kenna brings stories of her two grandmothers in this heartfelt storytellers episode! Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email...
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Ep96 He Leadeth Me, Part 3
“Even in moments of human discouragement, the consciousness that I was fulfilling God's will in all that happened to me would serve to dispel all doubt and desolation.” ~ Fr. Walter Ciszek How can we trust God when life feels uncertain or painful? What does it really mean to surrender our will to...
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Ep95 He Leadeth Me, Part 2
“We were subjected to conditions that were deplorable, even subhuman, and yet I was delighted simply to be with people once again.” ~ Fr. Walter Ciszek Why do we long so deeply for human connection? What does suffering reveal about our humanity? How can community become a source of grace? In...
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Ep94 He Leadeth Me, Part 1
“Learning the full truth of our dependence upon God and our relation to his will is what the virtue of humility is all about." ~ Fr. Walter Ciszek Does suffering have a purpose? What does humility mean for me? How can I tell God's will from my will? In episode 94 of This Whole Life, Kenna, Pat &...
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The most dangerous career fair in history: Storytellers #9
But don't worry, she can still see. Addy Diaz returns to This Whole Life to share a hilarious story of gaming, shame, and vulnerability. Listen in! Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode…
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Ep93 Navigating Division and Seeking Peace in Difficult Times
“In the world you will have trouble, but take courage, I have conquered the world." ~ John 16:33 What do I do when I feel like giving up? Is God present even when things feel hopeless? Is it up to me to solve the problems in the world around me? In Episode 93 of This Whole Life, Pat and Kenna...
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Jesus, Take The Wheel: Storytellers #8
You're on a road trip with Jesus. Where is he sitting? Where are you sitting? Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an event Visit us online at thiswholelifepodcast.com, and send us…
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Ep92 Thank God for My Anxiety? w/ Catherine DiNuzzo
"Cast all your worries upon him because he cares for you." ~ 1 Peter 5:7 What is anxiety, really? How do I process my anxiety when it's not helpful? Seriously - thanking God for my anxiety? In this episode of This Whole Life, Kenna and Pat welcome licensed professional counselor Catherine DiNuzzo...
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Screening Prospective Priests & Religious: Storytellers #7
What's it like to have the responsibility of discerning whether a man or woman would be a healthy and suitable priests or religious? Dr. Anthony Isacco shares his humble insights into the quietly holy work of psychological assessments in the process of discernment. Support the show Thank you for...
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Ep91 Hope Amid Depression w/ Dr. Anthony Isacco
"The Lord is close to the brokenhearted, saves those whose spirit is crushed." ~ Psalm 34:19 Is it a sin to be depression? Is depression really able to be treated and healed? How can I help my loved one who is suffering with depression? In the first ever episode of "This Whole Life" recorded in...
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A Wondrous Walk in Wyoming: Storytellers #6
What does a Wyoming girl do every time she visits the family farm? Beth Hlabse joins us for this edition of Storytellers and a glimpse of the grandeur, quiet, and beauty of her childhood home. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters!...
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Ep90 Loving Persons With Mental Illness w/ Beth Hlabse, LMHCA
"But a Samaritan traveler who came upon him was moved with compassion at the sight." ~ Luke 10:33 How can I better support my loved one who suffers with mental illness? What is the Church's place in caring for those with mental illnesses? Is it possible to choose my responses instead of just...
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When the Hernons *knew* they were meant for each other: Storytellers #5
When do you know that you're meant to marry someone? How much do you ever really know?? Mike & Alicia Hernon of the Messy Family Project share the story of their friendship, dating, and discernment with loads of wisdom for anyone at any stage of their vocation journey. Support the show Thank you...
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Ep89 Family from 30,000 Feet w/ Mike & Alicia Hernon
“Where there is no vision, the people perish." ~ Proverbs 29:18 Why do my spouse and I fight over such trivial things? How can we be more connected in our marriage? How do we create a vision of hope for our family? In episode 89 of This Whole Life, hosts Kenna & Pat Millea welcome Mike & Alicia...
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Spinach & A Spanking: Storytellers #4
Every parent has bad days, but some of those bad days become great stories over time. Especially when there's a literal fork in the road. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters! Join our email list and never miss an episode or an…
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Ep88 The Window of Tolerance
"If you find that you have wandered away from the shelter of God, lead your heart back to Him quietly and simply." ~ St. Francis de Sales What is wrong with me that I feel so overwhelmed sometimes? Why do I freeze up and struggle to process stress? How can I get back to my authentic self and...
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The Christmas Workout That Didn't Work Out: Storytellers #3
People have different ways of approaching the holidays and holy days. Even people who are sacramentally vowed to one another. And sometimes that's really tricky - but pretty funny in retrospect. Support the show Thank you for listening, and a very special thank you to our community of supporters!...
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Ep87 Sane Celebrations & Holidays
"So whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything for the glory of God." ~ 1 Corinthians 10:31 Is it really possible to stay sane around the holidays? What if I have real baggage from past holidays & celebrations? How do I hold onto my values when the routine is thrown out the…
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From Occult Practices to Catholic Priesthood: Storytellers #2
What a difference a year can make. You'll be wowed by Fr. Nathan LaLiberte's story of conversion and vocational discernment, going from occult practices to the seminary. Who in your life needs to hear Fr. Nathan's story? Take one moment to share it with them. Support the show Thank you for...
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Ep86 Gratitude Changes You
In all circumstances give thanks, for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus. ~ 1 Thessalonians 5:18 Why is it so easy to feel entitled? How am I supposed to be grateful when things are so flawed? Does gratitude really make a difference? In this episode of This Whole Life, Pat, Kenna…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
How does our mental health relate to our faith? How can we become whole while living in a broken world? Every day, we all strive to encounter God amidst the challenges of balancing faith and family, work and leisure, our sense of self and complicated relationships. Pat & Kenna Millea bring joy, hope, and wisdom to those who believe there *is* a connection between holiness and happiness. Kenna is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist; Pat served for 15 years as a youth minister; together they have 7 children and a perfectly imperfect marriage. From their education and experience, they share tools, resources, interviews, and stories that point the way to sanity and sanctity. (Music: "You're Not Alone" by Marie Miller. Used with permission.)
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