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Train Like You Listen
by Brian Washburn
We're passionate about improving every training experience. Our guests range from experts in Learning & Development to professionals who have landed in training and have found their way. You'll hear from business leaders, innovative thinkers, and creative professionals.
Episodes
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Making Learning Stick with Reflection Activities
Host Brian Washburn talks with Katrina Kennedy, author of Learning That Lasts: Reflection Activities for Trainers and Designers, about how reflection helps transform training from a one-time event into lasting behavior change. Katrina shares practical ways to integrate reflective activities…
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Manager Development: The Investment That Unlocks 21% More Profit
Research shows that management quality is the single biggest predictor of employee satisfaction and retention. In this episode, Brian Washburn speaks with Dan Lawner, Founder of Bevel Talent, about why managers are the key to employee engagement and organizational success. They discuss common...
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Stop Taking Orders: Lead Change in Learning & Development
Too often in L&D, we’re handed a “training solution” and asked to deliver it without question. In this episode, Brian Washburn talks with L&D expert Jess Almlie about how to stop being an “order taker” and become a strategic business partner. They discuss why relationships matter, how small…
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HR and L&D: Working Together to Build Better Leaders
If you're interested in how L&D professionals can support better leadership at every level of an organization, check out my latest podcast with The HR Lady, Wendy Sellers. Wendy brings a direct, practical approach to leadership, and she doesn’t shy away from tough conversations or tough truths....
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10 Years in Business & Learning, Part 1
What does it really take to build a lasting business? Brian Washburn and Tim Waxenfelter, co-founders of Endurance Learning, pull back the curtain on 10 years of grit, unexpected pivots, and hard-won lessons. No sugarcoating; just real stories from the trenches of entrepreneurship. The episode...
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L&D It's Time to Steal from Marketing with Mike Taylor
Host Brian Washburn chats with learning consultant and author Mike Taylor about his new book, Think Like a Marketer, Train Like an L&D Pro, which he co-authored with Bianca Baumann. Taylor dives into the overlap between marketing and learning & development (L&D), arguing that marketers are far...
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The Pulse of Learning: The 2025 L&D Global Sentiment Survey
Donald Taylor’s 2025 Learning & Development Global Sentiment Survey reveals AI’s explosive impact on workplace learning, but the real story is how professionals are moving from buzz to action—using it for everything from quick content fixes to reshaping skills strategies. Yet, the timeless...
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Talent Management & Talent Development in NGO's
Whether you are working in an NGO or not, this discussion with Gretchen Regehr from Conservation International will have you thinking more deeply about the role of both talent management and talent development in your organization. I've added some links below to relevant resources including the...
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Cooking Up Training Activities
We love cooking up new resources for the L&D field. We get excited when people download them. But we don't often know how they're being used. I had the opportunity to talk to two early childhood leaders, Glenna Gamble and Sharon Norris, and learn about how the integrated Endurance Learning's...
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Ep 156: Inspiration from a Train-the-Trainer Program
Brian spoke with John Edinger, a trainer he met while delivering a train-the-trainer session. John shares just what it was about the design of the program that he went through that inspired him to be doing things new or differently or better, even though he'd already been training for a while. 📖...
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Ep. 155 Training Team from Scratch (Part 2)
This is the followup conversation with Tim Barnosky, Manager of Training and Development for Innovative Solutions about his work building an L&D function from scratch. Check out episode 147 to hear the first part of this conversation. 📖 Brian shows how the build-borrow-buy approach can help…
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How "Mature" is Your Training Program?
How strategic is your training program? How outcome-oriented, governed or sustainable is it? In today's podcast, Danielle Duran speaks with Brian Washburn about how to objectively measure your training program in those four key areas. Endurance Learning is a full-service training design and...
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A Conversation on Inclusive Training Design
When participating in a DEI-focused session led by Jolene Jang at a recent conference, Brian Washburn found himself continuously shaking his head. Every time she pointed out another way learning design can be more inclusive, and quite frankly inviting, to all learners, he thought: there's…
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Ep. 152 Where Sales Enablement Meets L&D
Natalie Mazzie, an experienced sales enablement professional, discussed the crossover between training and sales enablement. Hear the Top 3 Sales Enablement Lessons for Learning & Development Professionals and more in this conversation with Endurance Learning's Brian Washburn....
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Accessibility and Inclusion in Instructor-Led Training (ILT)
Is your ILT designed with accessibility and inclusion in mind? Gwen Navarrete Klapperich wants to make sure you consider accessibility and inclusion in your ILT design, and offers some suggestions on how to do just that. Brian Washburn is the CEO of Endurance Learning where he helps find and grow…
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Escape Rooms in Instructional Design
If you've ever been to an escape room, you can observe what a group of highly engaged people look like for 60 straight minutes. Is there a way to harness escape room design elements and bring them into the world of corporate training? Brian talks to Nate Martin, often cited as the founding father...
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A Learning & Development Resume that Gets Noticed
When you're applying for an L&D job, how do you best position yourself to get a call from a recruiter or hiring manager? Experienced HR professional, Maria Leggett, offers her insights in today's podcast. Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner, specializing in…
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Career Pivot into L&D?
If you're looking to pivot into a role in the corporate training or learning and development space, this episode will give you some insights and questions to think about. Transitioning fields can be tough, but Endurance Learning’s team of instructional designers can ease the pressure. Endurance...
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Ep. 147 Building an Internal L&D Team in an Organization (Part 1)
How do you build an L&D team from scratch? Tim Barnosky of Innovative Solutions is currently in the process of answering that question. Today's podcast revolves around his vision and the challenges he anticipates. Useful Links: Endurance Learning Soapbox L&D Pro Academy
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Connecting Theoretical Physics with Learning & Development
The constructal law of design and evolution in nature can actually be applied in very concrete ways to the world of learning and professional development to help individuals, teams and organizations flow more efficiently. Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner,...
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Turning the Tables: From Trainer to Student
As people who have designed and delivered effective training, Kassy Laborie and Zovig Garboushian know a thing or two about good learning experiences. So what nuggets have they gleaned from a 9-month course that they're both attending, and that all of us should consider when designing our own...
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Getting Started with Game Design
Karl Kapp has written 8 books, created 11 LinkedIn Learning courses and has an entire YouTube channel devoted to game and game design. Today on the podcast, he spends some time talking about how to bring game elements into learning. Endurance Learning is a full-service training development…
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Ep. 143 Is this the world's most effective role play?
When it comes to your training participants, two of the dirtiest, or perhaps scariest, words you can say during a session may be: role play. In today's podcast, John Crook, Head of Learning at Intersol Global, offers some thoughts on how to make role plays more authentic and robust.
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Ep.142 What can training designers learn from a popular keynote speaker?
What can anyone who designs training learn from the way a keynote speaker designs and refines their presentation? Reknowned keynote speaker, Jessica Kriegel, answers that question and more in today's podcast.
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Ep. 141 What role does training actually play in an employee's development?
If you're involved in developing strategies to help people learn and grow in their roles, today's podcast is for you. Danielle Lopez, a fraud investigator for a major financial services company, shares her insights on what mix of stretch assignments, supportive relationships and formal training...
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Ep.140 How do organizations help employees learn outside of training or elearning?
Building a culture of learning inside your organization doesn't always mean you need to build training sessions or elearning courses. Sherry Metz Johnson offers some thoughts on what a true culture of learning can look like.
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Using 7Taps with AI for Microlearning
AI is all the rage these days. 7Taps has figured out a way to embed AI into their microlearning platform to make your experience even quicker. It looks like this is the future of AI in learning tools. 7Taps co-founder Kate Udalova shares her insights. Endurance Learning is a full-service training...
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Creative Change Management
Marci Morford has helped large organizations, such as The Gates Foundation and Salesforce, navigate some large-scale changes. What's her secret? Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner, specializing in elearning, instructor-led training, and train-the-trainer programs....
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Ep. 136 What does 70:20:10 actually look like for a self-directed learner?
If you've been in L&D for any amount of time, you probably have heard of the 70:20:10 framework. But what does it actually look like in action? And what can instructional designers learn from one woman's self-guided learning journey? Today's podcast offers some answers.
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Ep.135 Does HR hold the secret for L&D success?
HR and L&D have a lot of overlapping goals, but they're often run by people with very different backgrounds, and there are even two very different professional associations that support these distinct groups. This podcast briefly explores how HR and L&D can come together to make great things happen.
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Ep.134 Where do HR and L&D intersect?
With two distinct professional associations (SHRM and ATD), the worlds of HR and Learning and Development seem to be separate entities. Deadra Welcome feels there are ways that those two worlds can come together to achieve great things.
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Accessibility in Learning Design
What is "accessibility" in learning? Why is it important to design learning for everyone? What are one or two things you might want to be doing differently with your design, today? David Berman is an expert in accessibility in learning design and shares his approach. Endurance Learning is a...
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Using xAPI to Collect Data on Learning Programs
xAPI can be used to collect data in any digital learning experience - from elearning to videos. This episode, featuring Megan Torrance, Matt Kliewer, and Wendy Morgan, offers the perspective of both a learning design team AND an end-user of xAPI, all of whom share their thoughts on when to use…
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Ep. 131 Training and Professional Development is a Social Mission
It really doesn't matter if you're working for a small nonprofit or the world's largest, most profitable corporation. Our role in learning and development is a social mission because we can truly change lives if we're doing our jobs correctly.
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Ep. 130 Updating Training Materials That Seem Good Enough
Sometimes we're asked to review and improve a training program that seems perfectly fine as it is. Taking a look at the fundamentals on which the program is built may offer some clues about possible ways to improve something that, on the surface, didn't look like it needed to be touched.
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Ep. 129 Matching Training Media and Delivery Format to Organizational Need
If someone just needs to be aware of something, should you make them attend a training? If someone needs to build skills, is there any other way than a training to do that? In today's podcast, I talk about how to match the learning need with the learning design.
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Ep. 128 Setting Bloom's Taxonomy Aside
Bloom's Taxonomy has been used for decades to help instructional designers think through and develop learning objectives. In today's podcast I offer some thoughts on how instructional designers might want to think through the intent behind their training first.
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Ep.127 Got Training Writer's Block? Maybe the solution is to do nothing.
It can be hard to always need to come up with creative ways to present information and engage learners. Sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing.
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Ep.126 Lessons from TechLearn 2022, with Kristin Torrence and Betty Dannewitz
Whether you've been to many conferences or if you're getting ready to head to your first conference, this week's podcast offers some thoughts on how you can get the most out of your conference experience.
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From Teachers to eLearning Designers
Going from classroom teacher to corporate trainer brings a lot of transferable skills from one role to the next. Going from classroom teacher to elearning designer is a bit more of a transition. This conversation with two elearning designers highlights the challenges and lessons learned.…
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Starting Your Own Training Consultancy, with Jason Meucci and Eric Girard
Converting your side hustle into a full time training consultancy can be an exciting idea, but there are some challenges you'll want to think about. Brian Washburn talks to Jason Meucci and Eric Girard, who are both successful in the consultancy field, about what you should consider when starting...
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Ep.123 Quiet Quitting for Training Professionals
Yes, I shamelessly jumped on board the "quiet quitting" bandwagon this week with a podcast around how training professionals can adopt some sort of boundaries when it comes to the work we're asked to do.
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Ep.122 Low-cost, Immediately Applicable Team Development, with the Training Team at Unifi
Training teams are often compared to the cobbler's children who have no shoes (because they're often helping others learn, but rarely take time out for their own learning). In today's podcast we spotlight a team from Unifi that has adopted a book club approach to develop themselves as individuals...
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Ep.121 My Top 10 Tools for Learning
Every year Jane Hart conducts a survey of the top tools used for learning, across industries and around the world. Here is my top 10 list as well as a link for you to vote on your top 10 learning tools!
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Effective Training Design Has Layers
Having a series of engaging activities in your training program can be a good thing. The big question, however, is what lies beneath those engaging activities? Brian Washburn, master trainer and CEO of Endurance Learning attempts to answer these questions. Endurance Learning is a full-service...
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Ep.119 Leaders Assemble! Leadership in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, with Gordon Schmidt & Sy Islam
Of all the Marvel characters, who was the best leader? How did Thanos actually get people to follow him? And what transferable lessons from Marvel might you be able to take into your organization? Two authors of the book "Leaders Assemble! Leadership in the MCU" spend some time spelling this all...
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Ep.118 Mentoring: What is it and how is it different from coaching?, with Wendy Axelrod
Is mentoring different than coaching? Is it appropriate for someone to mentor another person who is older or more experienced? Author Wendy Axelrod offers her thoughts on these questions and more!
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Ep 117 Benefits of Getting Involved With Your Local ATD Chapter, with Gwen Navarrete Klapperich and Sarah Schillen
Joining a local ATD chapter can lead to new contacts and relationships, opportunities to grow skills that your current company doesn't offer you and even business opportunities. This week's podcast features the current presidents of two local ATD chapters and their insights on why you might want…
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Ep.116 Microlearning Basics
Did you know there are at least 6 different types of microlearning? In today's podcast, Karl Kapp and Robyn Defelice (authors of Microlearning Short and Sweet) go in depth about what microlearning is and what you should know before you get started.
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Ep.115 L&D Beach Reads: 2022 Edition
This summer, if you're looking for a good book to read, I have one recommendation. And it will probably take you the rest of the summer to read. And then four other fantastic L&D-centered books will hit bookshelves beginning in September. Here are my thoughts on all 5.
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We're passionate about improving every training experience. Our guests range from experts in Learning & Development to professionals who have landed in training and have found their way. You'll hear from business leaders, innovative thinkers, and creative professionals.
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