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Transform Your Talk
by Transform Your Talk
"Transform your Talk" is a survival guide for those at odds with the world and themselves. We want our listeners to gain a better understanding of each other without having to sacrifice their truth in the process. We will explore the overlooked, misunderstood, and mundane. We hope to provide a model for new connections in fresh, unedited, and exuberant ways, bridging the gap between what we think we know and the truth. Jeff & Jenna are veterans in the courtroom and together have mediated over 500 cases. Our listeners will gain tools to better communicate, and solve conflict in their lives.
Episodes
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The Pre-Wedding Talk
Jeff and Jenna discuss their experiences with pre martial counseling, they take a look at what the most important topics are to discuss with your partner. Use these heavy hitting questions as a way to make sure your relationship will be lasting and healthy.
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Confessions From Dating Apps
Listen in as David and Jim reveal what the LGBTQ+ and heterosexual dating app worlds are really like. Jeff and Jenna dive into how AI is changing modern dating and explore the darker side of finding love online in 2026. Hear firsthand about David and Jim’s experiences navigating the cyber dating...
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Why, Oh Why, Ask Why?
In this episode, Jenna and Jeff dive into the age-old question: Why? They explore how this question becomes deeply ingrained from childhood and challenge the belief that it's always the most helpful place to begin. Together, they examine how moving beyond "why" and embracing curiosity over...
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Acceptance and Surrender
In this episode, Jeff and Jenna explore how their understanding of trauma has evolved and share the tools that have helped them accept and surrender to its presence in their lives. They reflect on the ways loss and trauma can both protect and limit us, examining the roles these experiences have...
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Let's Talk About Failure
Jeff and Jenna take a look at failure, and how it shows up in their lives. Failure can look different for each person and Jeff and Jenna give an honest look at real ways to handle the failures we may all feel from time to time. Your ideas about failure could be turned into something you never...
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Ai Again
Jeff and Jenna check in with their listeners about how their AI bot friendship challenge actually went. Along with some new information about how AI is intertwined into the legal world and in so many other aspects of our lives. Tune in for an AI discussion and an update that may surprise you…
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Reconciliation - The 4 Phases
Saying goodbye to a loved one is never easy. Jeff and Jenna explore a method of using 4 phrases to help say goodbye and find reconciliation. Listen in as Jeff and Jenna work through some of their hard goodbye situations using the four statements to help them through. Perhaps the this process will...
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Vices
Jeff and Jenna discuss some of their personal vices, and unpack their possible formations. Listen in and maybe think about some of your own…How do they serve you?
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From New Year Resolutions
Jeff and Jenna kick off the 2026 New Year with a fresh mindset and a realistic plan for growth. In this episode, they dive into the power of New Year’s resolutions, why we make them, why they sometimes fade, and how to approach them in a way that actually sticks. They explore practical tools and...
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Let's Talk: Conversations on Suicide Prevention
In this episode, Jeff & Jenna explore the importance of suicide prevention training with their friend and Safe Talk Trainer Yardin. They discuss how awareness, education, and shared responsibility help reduce stigma and create safer spaces for people to speak up and seek support. A special focus…
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FAFO
Jenna and Jeff decode "FAFO", a parenting trend that is at the forefront of a new fad parenting style. Jeff and Jenna take a journey down memory lane to help them understand this "new/old" style of parenting, as well as examining parenting styles over the past fifty years. "F-around and Find out"...
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Origin of Me
We invite you to tune into Origin of Me, a podcast created as a space for storytelling, healing, and remembering. In each episode, guests step into the role of storyteller, sharing memories, family narratives, and life experiences that ripple across generations. These personal accounts honor the...
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Senator Mallory McMorrow: Changing our Political Views
Senator Mallory McMorrow joins Jeff and Jenna for a conversation about reshaping how we talk, think, and engage with one another in our communities. She addresses the deepening mistrust and division in today’s political climate and shares insights from her time on the campaign trail. Drawing from...
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Judge Aquilina
Jeff and Jenna are joined by Judge Rosemarie Aquilina, former JAG Corp officer, lawyer, Judge, Author, lecturer who is well known for sentencing the infamous Larry Nassar at MSU. Her latest book, to be published soon, “Speak Up”, is the subject of a lively discussion related to leading with your...
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Ilya
Jeff and Jenna are joined by Ilya (I love you always) who discusses his own journey from victim to victor and the importance of the men's work he has done through the Mankind Project (MKP). He announces and promotes his up-and-coming YouTube Channel and Podcast entitled "Ilya".
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Musings with the Mayor
Jeff and Jenna sit down with Lansing Mayor Andy Schor for an engaging conversation about the exciting projects shaping the city’s future. From innovation and economic development to building a strong sense of community pride, they explore how local leadership and residents alike can help Lansing...
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Don't Take It Personally - Part II
In part two of the conversation on The Four Agreements, Jenna and Jeff take a deeper look at what it means to stay grounded in your truth. How can we apply the principle of not taking things personally in our relationships, work, and everyday interactions, especially when criticism or conflict...
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The Four Agreements - Don't Take Anything Personally, Part I
In this episode, Jenna and Jeff dive into the second agreement from Don Miguel Ruiz’s The Four Agreements being, Don’t Take Anything Personally. Jenna and Jeff explore the liberating truth that what others say and do is more a reflection of their own reality than ours. Through real-life examples,...
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Peacekeeping
Jeff and Jenna are invited to the Pokégnek Bodéwadmik (Pokagon band of Potawatomi) Peacekeeping Facilities to learn about the history, scope and importance of peacekeeping. Jason and Stacey join in the discussion seated in their sacred fire keeping room for an honest glimpse into the spiritual...
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Gun Violence - 2 Years Later
Jeff and Jenna are invited to MSU’s Campus to learn about healing in the form of art and activism, “artivism”. They are joined by Scott Boehm, Assistant Professor of 20th/21st Spanish Culture and the Founder/Director of the MSU Latinx Film Festival. He is a Core Faculty member of the Global…
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Injured at Work? What happens now?
Seasoned Michigan lawyers Jeff and Mike walk Jenna through her worker's compensation claim from start to finish. All employees should be aware of a few twists and turns if they find themselves injured at work. Listen in to find out more.
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The Women's Center
Jeff and Jenna talk with their guest Angie from the Women's Center of Greater Lansing about what the organization is all about. Jeff and Jenna find out how they and their listeners can show their support for an organization that has been helping the Lansing community for nearly 20 years. Jeff…
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Now What?
Jenna and Jeff welcome back their friends Kari and Pharra to discuss what could be next for their community in light of recent election results. Listen as the fear becomes a beacon for hope, and call to action for our future political relationships.
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Appetite for Men's Work
Join Jenna as she interviews Jeff, David, and Jay about the transformative journeys they've experienced within their men’s group. Together, they explore themes of personal growth, authentic living, and how this supportive community became a guiding force in their lives. Listen in for inspiring...
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When your face grows a lemon, make lemonade
Jeff and Jenna dive into an honest conversation about the challenges Jenna currently faces regarding her appearance due to medical issues. Though it's a difficult topic to discuss, Jenna opens up about the medical procedure she needs and shares her journey leading up to this point. Trigger…
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Social Security Disability - A Process
Meet Monique Pollok: Your Guide to Navigating Social Security Disability! In this episode, Jeff and Jenna sit down with Monique Pollok, a dedicated Social Security Disability Advocate who works tirelessly to support her clients through the complexities of the disability system. Monique shares...
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Disinformation & Lies Attacking Us All
Jeff and Jenna are joined by Barbara McQuade, New York Times bestselling author of How Disinformation is Sabotaging America: Attack From Within, University of Michigan Law Professor, and NBC/MSNBC legal analyst, along with Steve Coon, Central Michigan University Journalism Professor, seven-time...
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Creating a Culture of Community and Policing
Jeff and Jenna sit down with Sandy Jo, an experienced LAPD officer and conflict resolution expert, to discuss the ongoing issue of police brutality and how the LAPD has reshaped its approach to policing. Sandy Jo shares insights into the department's shift toward a community-centered model,...
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Labeling
In this episode, Jeff and Jenna explore the roots of labeling, tracing its history and examining the modern-day "us vs. them" mindset that permeates social interactions. They share practical tips for overcoming their own labeling habits and invite listeners to join them in fostering a more...
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Homeless or Hopeless?
In this episode, Jeff and Jenna delve into the pressing issue of homelessness in their community. They share their fears and concerns for the increasing number of displaced individuals, explore the community's current efforts and shortcomings, and brainstorm potential solutions. Jeff and Jenna...
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CST/Somatic Emotional Release Therapy
Jenna and Jeff chat with Jeff's sister Becky about an innovative approach to healing trauma by addressing where it resides in the body. Listen in as Becky shares her ongoing journey to heal old wounds and embrace new beginnings.
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K-9 Nutritionist
Join Jeff and Jenna as they welcome Taylor Sims, a certified animal nutritionist and owner of The Bow-wow-tique, specializing in canine nutrition, to the podcast. Accompanied by three adorable furry friends, Taylor shares essential tips for dog owners on how to keep their pets healthy and happy....
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Divorce Coach
Join Jeff and Jenna as they sit down with Brittany to explore her unique role as a "divorce coach" and "parenting time coordinator." Discover how Brittany offers her invaluable services to families navigating challenging times and learn about the transformative benefits of having a supportive...
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Mediating before Litigating - The Israeli Model
Jeff and Jenna engage in an enlightening conversation with their esteemed guest, Galit Lurie, hailing all the way from Israel. Galit, a seasoned lawyer and mediator, delves into the transformative shift in legal practice, highlighting the recent mandate compelling disputing parties to pursue...
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The Power of "NO"
Join Jeff and Jenna on their journey toward fostering peace, cultivating kindness, and embracing authenticity. In this episode, they delve into the significance of a seemingly simple yet profound word: "no." Why does the idea of saying "no" evoke fear? How have societal norms conditioned us to...
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Unveiling Toltec Wisdom: The Power of Impeccable Words with Emily and Phoenix
Join Jeff, Jenna, and special guests Emily Ray and Phoenix, as we delve into the transformative teachings of Don Miguel Ruiz's Toltec wisdom. In this episode, we explore the profound concept of being impeccable with our words, one of the five agreements outlined by Ruiz. Through insightful...
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A Slam Dunc(an)
Join hosts Jeff and Jenna as they delve into the transformative practice of not taking anything personally, inspired by the profound teachings of Don Miguel Ruiz and Don Jose Ruiz. In this episode, they sit down with special guest Dan Duncan, who shares his personal journey and experiences with...
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Decoding 'The Four Agreements': Don't Take Anything Personally
Join Jenna and Jeff as they delve into the profound teachings of "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz. In this episode, the dynamic duo focuses on unraveling the wisdom behind the agreement of not taking anything personally. Discover the transformative power of this seemingly simple concept…
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Doctor, Doctor, give me the news on Climate Change
Jeff and Jenna host a compelling conversation with Dr. Relena Ribbons, a distinguished scientist and professor, delving into the pressing issue of climate change. Together, they explore actionable steps and collective efforts that can positively impact our planet. Dr. Ribbons advocates for a...
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Restorative Justice
Jenna and Jeff engage in a conversation with Terry Doxey, a practitioner of Restorative Justice and a dedicated community advocate. Terry sheds light on a time-tested process that, although ancient, is gaining fresh attention in the United States. Dive in to discover how Restorative Justice...
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Be the Change at The Exchange
Join Jenna and Jeff as they dive into the exciting reopening of The Exchange in Downtown Lansing. In this lively episode, they are joined by Kari Magee and Kate Bearup, who share their insights on the club's transformation into an LGBTQ+, all-inclusive space that celebrates the freedom of...
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To Nerd or Not to Nerd
Jenna and Jeff delve deeper into the realm of labeling, with Jeff revealing his unabashed enthusiasm for all things nerdy. Together, they explore the multifaceted concept of being a "nerd" and its personal significance. In a thought-provoking discussion, Jeff and Jenna not only unpack the label…
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Rambling on
Jeff and Jenna lay off the academia of conflict resolution and let listeners into their world. This "basement tapes" series begins with their walk down memory lane and begins to unfold for their listeners how Jeff and Jenna developed their passions for life and the work they both love.
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Arbitration not Humiliation
ChatGPT Jeff and Jenna embark on an enlightening journey to unravel the intricacies of the concealed arbitration clauses that often slip by unnoticed in our daily routines. They're driven by a shared mission: to spare their listeners from the very same sense of bewilderment and vulnerability they...
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LGBTQ+ - Be The Change
Jenna and Jeff speak with Pharra and Kari about their lifelong journey of self-acceptance and love. A conversation about how we can all be better allies to the LGBTQ community and be the change we want to see in future generations.
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Are you listening?
Jeff and Jenna play a game based on the idea that we often hear what we want instead of what's being said. They each read song lyrics and discuss their interpretations. Jeff and Jenna discuss the importance of clear communication and the critical job of the listener.
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Kings and Queens
Jenna and Jeff begin by discussing the role of Kings and Queens in chess and how those same rules apply to society. Society has a way of pitting women against one another from a young age. Jenna suggests that real Queens fix each other's crowns, supporting and empowering one another. We live in a...
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Managing Trauma
Jeff and Jenna discuss Trauma, a sensitive topic that hits close to home for them, as I'm sure it also does for many listeners. They ask listeners to transform their talk around trauma, remembering that many of us carry the truth and pain of the past, clouding our vision of the present, and...
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Gun Violence in America: An epidemic
This week on Transform your Talk, Jeff and Jenna process their anger about the epidemic happening in our country: gun violence. Jenna drives the conversation toward solutions to keep our nation's children safe. Jenna and Jeff urge listeners to keep this conversation going and take action. We must...
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Disability is not Inability
Jenna and Jeff conducted a social experiment to gauge public reaction in 2023. For Jenna, this experiment revisited her own childhood disability. Jenna and Jeff discuss the great superpowers and abilities that can come from having a disability.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
"Transform your Talk" is a survival guide for those at odds with the world and themselves. We want our listeners to gain a better understanding of each other without having to sacrifice their truth in the process. We will explore the overlooked, misunderstood, and mundane. We hope to provide a model for new connections in fresh, unedited, and exuberant ways, bridging the gap between what we think we know and the truth. Jeff & Jenna are veterans in the courtroom and together have mediated over 500 cases. Our listeners will gain tools to better communicate, and solve conflict in their lives.
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