Two Trying Birds

Welcome to a new series of Two Trying Birds Radio where Jennifer and Carlotta try something new. All the usual banter and silly chat but with a new theme. For the next six episodes we will be exploring parts of London that we think are interesting, this one is Guildhall in the city of London. Hope you get as excited as Jennifer about the hidden treasures and stories! We have new features and guests, thanks to George at the Guildhall and Jo for the tunes - please excuse the mistakes, still learning the best way to do it.Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Come back show of chit chat and political ranting. Unfortunately superstar Trying Bird Jennifer O'Donnell couldn't make it as she was poorly. Carlotta's husband Andrew bravely steps in and makes his radio debut! its the usual mishmash - a few mistakes are made, but we were a bit rusty - includes interview between Edie Goulden and Amelia, and a poem by Carol Anne Duffy, but now from Feb we are back to a monthly show with Jen and I taking it in turns to lead Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Back with another instalment of our radio show, the terrible twosome Carlotta Allum and Jennifer O'Donnell witter on about all sorts. Here we discuss some ideas around beauty, huge topic. We are both mothers of girls, what people get done and why ? how normalised has treatment become?Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Two Trying Birds have taken over a monthly slot Brixton Radio and this is our Election Special where we are trying to do politics!! with interviews and roving mics and the usual banter and this time with music!!Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Hello lovely peopleBIG WELL DONE TO EVERYONE who got to the end of dry Jan and (even if you didnt don't sweat, everyones journey is different) . Here one bird is happy its over, Jennifer is drinking moderately and Carlotta is powering on, work to do -Both of us a bit sad as we have to bring this series to an end as we have  lots of life stuff to be getting on with - its hard work promoting and editing, securing guests, we are going to pop back with a few one-offs and if we secure our mega famous guests or raise some funding ... Hasta Mañana baby, we'll be BackOur guest this week is the very impressive Caroline Milne who has won numerous awards for her Health Coaching activities - giving us some much needed inspiration!!Love you all - keep in touchhttps://www.coachingwithcaroline.co.uk/coaching https://www.instagram.com/coaching.with.caroline/https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/health-hacks-with-caroline-milne/id1498969880Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Hello all and a very happy full moon to you all, can you feel the Kenergy tonight? last night - we think the vibes were coming is strong, we were certainly howling  - how is every one getting on, the end of dry Jan is in sight, I know Jennifer cant wait, but Im powering through  - how are you doing ? what are you doing?The lovely Mollie Huckerby is our guest she's like a breath of fresh air for us, she's set up tech start ups, battled with serious illness and now a wellness coach all at 26 ... what a starWe might be finishing this series soon, life gets in the way and we dont have the headspace for marketing, but we would LOVE to hear your thoughts please talk to us on all the usual platformsJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Hello everyone and welcome to another wittering session with the Two Trying Birds. This week we are talking about things we do to beat the blues on this journey. How are we all feeling? Blue Monday been and gone, we look forward to better times. I think we decide we are alright in the end!Our guest this week is Tom Hawkins, Nurse, Soundscape Artist, Sober person, interesting guy - we decided he is very calming! have a listen, please feedback and let us know how you're getting onA few things he talks about:I met Tom through his partners Drawing classes that I attend (Carlotta)https://londondrawing.com/Tom mentions this bookhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/RECOVERY-2-0-Tommy-Rosen-ebook/dp/B00KSF7W4OJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Another episode of the Trying Birds waffling on about our last week, all the trials and tribulations of Dry January and things going wrong and right. We have our 'friend of the show' Jane Peyton with us and her irrepressible knowledge of Gin and all things historical but also her wise word on the 'low and no' market - and she has given us a discount code for her amazing books from The British Library about the philosophy of booze - Please share and big us up and respond - leave us feed back I have a £2 discount code on my books for your listeners.  The discount is available on any of my book titles.  If the buyer adds this code at the webshop checkout it will deduct £2 off each title.Code:  2OFFDRINK Books link. https://www.school-of-booze.com/product-category/books/Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome to our first dry witter of 2024, we have on the programme great friend of the show, the irrepressible Mickey O'Brien, broadcaster, musician and lovely person. Mickey hasn't drunk for a couple of years after a self hypnosis session in Lockdown and is blooming quite obviously. Here are some links and words from MickeyAs I said, for me, I need to know why something works and because I proved to myself - totally unexpectedly - that it does, I had to work out what was going on under the bonnet for me to have responded so effectively.Here are the links I wanted to share with you!:1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP9byfvQoLs - Dan Jones Hypnotherapist (Ericksonian Hypnotherapy - Sir Milton Erickson)2. https://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/memberarticles/the-meaning-of-ericksonian-hypnosis-and-how-it-differs-from-traditional-met - this explains more about the method of clinical self-hypnosis that worked for me. It reiterates why it worked when I talked about the choice of images I put into the TV screens that the YouTube script was asking me to do - were personal and related to my fears and hopes only.Ericksonian hypnosis is a modern hypnotic method which taps into the potentials of the subconscious mind through a rather subtle, respectful and personalised method which usually involves the use of such tools as body language, stories, metaphors and other hypnotic techniques that are tailored to improve the condition of patients.3. https://www.udemy.com/user/danieljones11/ - The person who did the YouTube video has his own course online, so I bought it (for about £15) to help me understand the science about why and how hypnotherapy worked for me:"Different types of therapy on its own and then looking at people that have had those different types of therapy but had hypnosis with those therapies, have found that the therapy is more effective because they've had the hypnosis as well.And the reason behind that is that hypnosis is accessing the optimal learning state. It's accessing the part of the brain that updates patterns in your brain.So when you learn something new, what happens is you update the pattern for whatever that is. So when you're learning a language, whether it's at birth and growing up as a toddler and learning your native language or whether it's learning a language in school when new words stick.What's happened is the patterns in your brain, so the neurons in your brain have wired in such a way that makes it so that now there's the connections to make it.So this is a new pattern.So it could be that you're saying a word wrong until that point. And then all of a sudden you start saying the word right. Everyone reaffirms that tells you, yes, that's how it's supposed to be said.So your brain updates and says, right, we'll keep it at this point, this is how this is supposed to be.With psychological problems, if someone has a problem, whether it's depression, anxiety, a phobia, an addiction, whatever it is; the whole time they're going to therapy, hopefully it's working on the patterns and trying to alter the way they think or relate to whatever that problem is.But once change actually happens, what has happened for that change to be lasting is that the patterns have updated and there was some research done on looking at.Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Soooooo we are back! we are not sure about anything but we are going again, we do it for ourselves and our friends really - its a year since we started this journey and its been so interesting. Dry January is round the corner and we are embracing the change - already sick of ourselves !!Will you join us?Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

We are so chuffed to introduce our season finale with Mitch Winehouse, father of the late, great Amy Winehouse. Carlotta loses her cool a bit, but the general themse is can the community contribute to recovery and what advice to parents for their children.Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Hello and welcome to the 5th instalment of out mini-series of TTB where we cover all sorts of issues that are relevant to scatty birds age, and maybe other too! No more so that DIET! we must have, between us, tried every diet under the sun and know deep down its not healthy - and the relationship between weight gain and alcohol is, we thought, nailed on! BUT not according to our special guest Sandra Roycroft-Davies. Her hugely successful Thinking  Slimmer for Weight Loss programme encourages retraining your brain for as little time as 9 minutes a day. This power of suggestive thought works for alcohol too, I'm totally sold!!  where do I sign? All the usual banter and some stupid diet from the 70's :)🎙 Join us on Sober Podcast UK as we navigate the journey of sobriety in today'sworld. Every episode is a step towards understanding. #SoberPodcastUK#NewBeginnings 🎧 Ever wondered about the stories behind the sober? Dive into our Sober Podcast andhear tales of triumph over temptation. #SoberStories #Inspiration🚫 From the depths of drug addiction to the heights of recovery. Our Podcast on DrugAddiction is a beacon for those lost in the struggle. #RecoveryRoad #HopeInTheDark🍷 Curious about the real impact of that glass of wine? Our Alcohol Shorts seriesdelves into the lesser-known truths. #KnowYourDrink #InformedChoices 🍺 Rethink that pint! Tune into Drinking Shorts for bite-sized insights on the effectsof alcohol. #RethinkTheDrink #AwarenessMatters🎤 Over the Influence isn't just a segment; it's a movement. Join us as we redefine ourrelationship with alcohol. #BeyondTheBottle #ChoiceMatters 🎧 The road to sobriety isn't walked alone. Join Jennifer and Carlotta on Sober PodcastUK as they share their personal journey. #FriendshipAndSobriety #TwoTryingBirds 🍸 Before the next cheers, pause and reflect. Our Alcohol Shorts series might justchange the way you view that glass. #MindfulDrinking #CheersToAwareness🎙 Over the Influence - Where we challenge norms, embrace sobriety, and celebrateevery individual's choice. #Empowerment #LifeChoices🍹 Every drink has a story, and not all are merry. Discover the untold tales in ourDrinking Shorts series. #BehindTheSip #TrueTalesJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Catch up with the Two Trying Birds and their efforts to go alcohol free. This week they talk to Dean Stalham about the seriousness of addiction and the challenges it presents for partners of those experiencing addiction issues. Sometimes Real Life just gets in the way, Jenn and Carlotta have found it hard keeping up with the podcast this time, and real life is HARD, but we still manage a few laughsDean Stalham is a British self-taught artist, playwright and community activist from North London. He has spent time in prison for handling stolen artworks. Dean writes and performs regularly and is currently working on a feature film set in Margate🎙 Join us on Sober Podcast UK as we navigate the journey of sobriety in today'sworld. Every episode is a step towards understanding. #SoberPodcastUK#NewBeginnings 🎧 Ever wondered about the stories behind the sober? Dive into our Sober Podcast andhear tales of triumph over temptation. #SoberStories #Inspiration🚫 From the depths of drug addiction to the heights of recovery. Our Podcast on DrugAddiction is a beacon for those lost in the struggle. #RecoveryRoad #HopeInTheDark🍷 Curious about the real impact of that glass of wine? Our Alcohol Shorts seriesdelves into the lesser-known truths. #KnowYourDrink #InformedChoices 🍺 Rethink that pint! Tune into Drinking Shorts for bite-sized insights on the effectsof alcohol. #RethinkTheDrink #AwarenessMatters🎤 Over the Influence isn't just a segment; it's a movement. Join us as we redefine ourrelationship with alcohol. #BeyondTheBottle #ChoiceMatters 🎧 The road to sobriety isn't walked alone. Join Jennifer and Carlotta on Sober PodcastUK as they share their personal journey. #FriendshipAndSobriety #TwoTryingBirds 🍸 Before the next cheers, pause and reflect. Our Alcohol Shorts series might justchange the way you view that glass. #MindfulDrinking #CheersToAwareness🎙 Over the Influence - Where we challenge norms, embrace sobriety, and celebrateevery individual's choice. #Empowerment #LifeChoices🍹 Every drink has a story, and not all are merry. Discover the untold tales in ourDrinking Shorts series. #BehindTheSip #TrueTalesJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

This week the Two Trying Birds are talking to Cami Vidal founder and owner of La Maison Wellness about all things wellbeing.  Carlotta and Jennifer chat through their journey to sobriety in Sober October and share their varied  experiences to be alcohol free for a month.  Cami shares her tips for mindful cocktails and how to listen to yourself and what your body needs. The usual Not The Wine O'Clock news and an " And Finally" not to be missed. 🎧 Discover stories of resilience and recovery in our newest Sober Podcast episode.Every story is a beacon of hope. #SoberJourney #PodcastLife 🚫 Battling addiction? Tune into our Podcast on Addiction for expertinsights, personal stories, and a community that understands. #AddictionRecovery#SoberLife🍹 Think twice before that next drink. Our Alcohol Shorts series sheds light on theunseen effects of alcohol. #AlcoholAwareness #DrinkResponsibly 🎥 Watch our Drinking Shorts for quick insights into the world of sobriety. Every siphas a story. #SoberChoices #LifeWithoutAlcohol 🎤 Over the Influence - our special segment where we discuss the power of choice,the strength in sobriety, and the journey to self-discovery. #OverTheInfluence#SoberLiving🎙 Dive into the latest episode of the Sober Podcast UK. A haven for those seekingsupport and understanding. #SoberPodcastUK #StayStrong https://www.lamaisonwellness.com/@mindfullycami https://yogabythesea-booking.as.me/schedule.php@yogionsea Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Or possibly The Novelty of Moderation' ... in the latest instalment of TTB Jennifer and Carlotta witter on about their trials and tribulations with the help of Brian Berg, Jennifers former boss and big-wig at Universal. He's witnessed a few stories of excess and had to change his habits for his health. Not the Wine O'clock News interviews music industry royalty and gathers views on 'that' rock and roll lifestyle. Whats your view? 🍺 Rethink that pint! Tune into Drinking Shorts for bite-sized insights on the effects of alcohol. #RethinkTheDrink #AwarenessMatters 🎤 Over the Influence isn't just a segment; it's a movement. Join us as we redefine our relationship with alcohol. #BeyondTheBottle #ChoiceMatters 🎧 The road to sobriety isn't walked alone. Join Jennifer and Carlotta on Sober Podcast UK as they share their personal journey. #FriendshipAndSobriety #TwoTryingBirds Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome back to the Two Trying Birds podcast.!!  'Brrrriiiinnnnnng' the school bell has rung and we are lining up in the playground for a SEPTEMBER RESET, we are challenging ourselves to live well and succeed. September is a time for a mini-reset and healthy routines. We are joined by head Principle Jane Peyton of The School of Booze who tells us some history about our nation and booze. But more than anything we are just two birds having a chat about this and that!Our guest tonight is @theschoolofbooze @the.school.of.booze 🎧 Discover stories of resilience and recovery in our newest Sober Podcast episode. Every story is a beacon of hope. #SoberJourney #PodcastLife 🎤 Over the Influence isn't just a segment; it's a movement. Join us as we redefine our relationship with alcohol. #BeyondTheBottle #ChoiceMatters 🎉 Today's the Day! Our first episode of Sober Podcast UK is now live. Tune in and join the conversation. #SoberPodcastLaunch Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Can barely believe it, we've come this far, episode 14 of utter twittering twoddle!! No its been such an amazing journey and we have met so many interesting people - the quality of guests has been outstanding and this week Brandon Block does not disappoint - we are ex-ravers from this generation, to paraphrase Brandon, we all need to just grow up (ha ha) but amazing and inspirational work. Thanks you everyone, we hear from Andrew my husband and other listeners, and Jenn and I have been on our own amazing journey of friendship also - this isn't the end, beautiful friend, but the beginning ! Watch this space -Thanks for music  (Im going to cry)https://brandonblock.com/Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Happy Friday everyone its time for the Two Trying Birds podcast once again, the weeks are flying by! We cant believe that this is our penultimate episode this season - there is so much to say still - the journey will continue ! Big thank you to everyone who has listened and all the feedback. We have met so many great people, like this weeks guest Mark Dempster - a Harley Street Counsellor who came from a world of crime and misadventure, such an inspiring story, again, but more interesting how he is now a world re-known drugs recovery coach - when do we need help?  when are we addicts? is there a middle way?  all the usual questions!!  - definitely one to come back to!http://markdempstercounselling.com/ http://markdempstercounselling.com/product/the-ongoing-path-a-guide-to-stopping-addictive-behavior-and-fulfilling-ambition/https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nothing-Declare-Confessions-Unsuccessful-Smuggler/dp/0957430507@reframe Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome episode 12 of Two Trying Birds - we have called this the resilience one as its all about bouncing back. Slight trigger warning as Carlotta has a bit of breakdown at the beginning, when she 'confesses' to Jennifer about a slip - but it's a moment in time that is now passed, a doom spiral, and how we recover is important !! Our guest is the super inspiring Micheal Josephson who has such an incredible story to tell of resilience and recovery, his story is posted below but he has raised millions for children's charities and overcome using drink as a prop in his darkest dayshttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5700181/Cheshire-sex-abuse-survivor-42-turned-life-run-3m-year-firm-suicide-attempt.htmlhttps://stocksmcr.com@michaeljosephson1 Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

We are really excited to bring you this weeks podcast, all about motivation and determination and core values. We interview Scotty Mills who has done a million and one amazing things being a special forces elite commander. You wouldn't think there was much cross over with South London mums of a certain age, but there is so much to take from his philosophy - He talks about his book Never Give In and how his techniques can be used to support from young children to national football teams !We are going to be setting some goals and thinking about the shape of the podcast and how and where it is going -@scotty_mills07https://www.amazon.co.uk/Never-Give-Commando-Rules-Life/dp/1398508446 Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Hello all, so this week we continue our discussion around parenting and parents on the piss (ha). We have taken the brave step of inviting our eldest daughters on, to tell us about their memories of alcohol growing up and how that may or may not have affected their habits today - hoping they don't make us cringe too much! Lovely to see their faces and I think they already have healthier habits than we do -Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome everybody to the latest rambling from the TwoTrying Birds. So much to say about this topic, we are delivering in two parts! We take a quick look back to our adult lives as drinkers and think about the relationship with alcohol over all those years. We talk to Anna Butler about her story, she is @mysobermum on instagram and has an inspiring story to tell. Things and people mentioned@soberdaveThe Body Keeps the Score      by Bessel van der KolkJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Hello everyone, thank F it's Friday?? or OH NO it's Friday?  so its time for our latest podcast. We think this is a particularly contentious and perhaps divisive subject, whether or not we can have the occasional drink and drink moderately. Jury is still out really. We chat to Tim Ayris about his journey and finding a way to moderate. Tim also extols the virtues of the sober raving and how it reignited his love for dancing and going out. Its a very interesting discussion! sprinkled with the usual silliness ...https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/24/i-leave-feeling-euphoric-meet-the-people-who-love-to-sober-rave-15809129/https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/oct/31/in-brief-the-good-drinker-the-blue-flames-exit-stage-left-reviews@houseofhappiness@morninggloryville@riseandshine@ravewithflourish@discosforgrownupsJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Happy Friday everyone, here we are with our latest instalment of chat and hopefully inspiration to rethink your relationship with alcohol. Jokes and banter but also serious thinking about pleasure and happiness and how we reach these states. Lots of chat about cold water swimming, definitely an emerging theme. Our guest is Hugh Wahla, former MD at Urban Outfitters Europe and CEO at The Conran Shop and now a life coach (details below) and his story. Sprinkled with the usual sillinesshttps://hughwahla.com/  http://www.dunehypnotherapy.co.uk/Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

The latest instalment from the twittering birds as we cruise into February. In this weeks episode we cover all sorts of subjects but a lot about moving to the seaside - we talk to the lovely Ronnie Traynor who used to be an enfant-terrible of the music industry and her path to loudly sober, all singing, all dancing and swimming in the sea everyday https://pathretreats.com/the-path-of-love-retreat/https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80229847  HOW TO CHANGE YOUR MIND@sosobersosocial Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome to the latest instalment of the Trying Birds wittering on. This episode we go DEEP, with a long hard look at what our thoughts are and why we have them. Our guest is Steve Hopper (link below) transformational coach  and all round good guy. He really made us think in a positive way - (Carlotta apologises for being a miserable git and full of cold) Not the Nine O'Clock News is all about behaviour change, and the the usual unrehearsed banter.https://stephenhopper.org/http://stretch-charity.orgJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome to the 4th instalment to the wittering birds, this week we talk to DJ Buckley Boland and reminisce about our raving days ( a little) - thinking about how we navigate around working around drinking people and all the usual bants, Not The Wine O'clock News and the rest ... thanks every onePlease follow and review on Apple and Spotify or any platforms and follow us on insta, Direct message if there you want to say anything or have guest ideas xxhttps://ra.co/dj/buckley Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Oooh Friday 13th...... don't be scared, it's only the latest instalment from those pesky Trying Birds. Talking about behaviours and compulsions around drinking (and other things) and how to try and manage them. Special guest, cognitive behavioural psychotherapist (put your teeth back in),  Lou Southwell gives us a few tips. Basically be kind to yourself. Be present and aware.  Not the Wine O'clock News and the usual banterBook Review 'Quit Like a Woman - Holly Whitaker' Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Welcome to 12th Night and the Full moon episode where we discuss our trials and tribulations over Christmas and New year and we interview Ellie the wonderful @thesoberfrootcake and all things deep and wonderful,  and strange facts from 'Not the Wine O'clock News'Links mentioned, the @TryDry App from alcoholawareDrinking, a love story. Caroline KnappThe Unexpected Joy of Being Sober. Catherine GrayQuit Like a Woman. Holly WhittakerClub Soda and Sober SistersJennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests

Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum introduce their new podcast series with chat, jokes, news and views on drinking and the problems around Christmas - official start January 6th Jennifer O'Donnell and Carlotta Allum witter on about trying not drink, with special guests