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Unstoppable Body and Mind
by Betsy Jensen
Science based strategies for the brain and nervous system, and thought work tools from life coaching to help you feel better in your body at any age!
Episodes
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Episode 140- Busting Pain Myths with Charlie Merrill
In this Episode I have the pleasure of interviewing Charlie Merrill,a well-known physical therapist specializing in the mind-body approach, to discuss the importance of emotional and physical healing in patient care. Learn more about how pain and many bodily symptoms are frequently generated by…
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Episode 139- The Five Love Languages... For Yourself!
You may have heard of the Love Language concept- that there are 5 main "Love Languages" which represent the ways we receive love best. Most of the time this concept is used in relationships, but what if we turned them inward? Self love is the biggest tool to recovery, so in this episode we…
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Episode 138- What I Learned in 2025
Here's a quick recap of my 2025, where I took a step back from coaching, focused on Grief Recovery, and explored other things that brought me joy. The biggest change was my name- going from "Betsy" to "Elle" for my 50th Birthday. *Correction- at about 6:40 I meant to say "placebo", instead of...
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Episode #137- The Healing Power of Dance
In this episode, we welcome Jake Trembath, a dance teacher from Utah, who shares his journey from discovering dance as a social outlet to using it as a tool for psychological healing and brain rewiring. Jake explains how dance can help process emotions, improve self-love, and create a flow state...
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Episode # 136- My Surprising MRI Results
Wow, I had an MRI done on my back and I talk about my surprising results in this episode. I’ve had some previous back issues- a snowboarding injury and a mid back problem with my rib that developed during pregnancy. A couple times in the last few years that my back “went out” for a few days (last...
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Episode #135- Treating Neuroplastic Symptoms with Dr David Clarke
Today I have a special guest, a leader in the field of Mindbody medicine and President of the ATNS (Association for Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms, formerly PPDA), Dr David Clarke. Dr Clarke practiced Gastroenterology in Portland from 1984 to 2009, treating over 7000 patients whose symptoms...
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Episode #134- Stress, the Subconscious and Pain- Interview with Jim Prussack, the Pain PT
Fellow Physical Therapist, Jim Prussack, joins me today for an interesting interview about his experience moving from PT to pain reprocessing Coach. We discuss the principles of PRT (pain reprocessing therapy), and how we treat differently using a mind vs body based approach. Check out Jim at...
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Episode #133- Embracing Your Emotions Meditation
This Meditation will help you find and process your emotions. Many of us have learned to subconsciously repress our emotions, to talk ourselves out of them or judge ourselves for having them. But we also know that what you resist persists. So sometimes the best way to “get rid of the emotion” is...
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Episode # 132- Hypnosis for Pain Relief with Melissa Tiers
Join me today to hear Hypnotist, Melissa Tiers, as we discuss integrative hypnosis and how it helps with chronic pain. Melissa has been training clinicians in the use of hypnosis for pain relief for over 25 years and her own chronic pain history was pivotal in the creation of her pain protocols....
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Episode # 131- Life After 30 Years of Chronic Pain- with Renee
Today I interviewed Renee Kammer, who has an amazing healing story. From 30 years of chronic pain and 5 years being bed bound, to now hiking, biking, and gardening. Renee had several diagnoses, including: Stiff person’s syndrome, Ulcerative colitis, Rheumatoid arthritis, Ankylosing spondylitis,...
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Episode #130- Deactivate Your Triggers
This episode includes a 6 minute technique you can do to deactivate your triggers. My coach who studies hypnotherapy taught me this somatic hack to decrease the intense feelings of a trigger. It is not to ignore the trigger or brush it under a rug, but to make it more emotionally manageable so it...
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Episode # 129- Coaching Call on Anxiety
This episode is a clip from an Alignment Academy group coaching call. Listen in to see how I apply somatic tools in a real life situation to help Carrie feel calmer and even excited about a situation that caused anxiety. If you are interested in a supportive coaching community to help accelerate...
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Episode #128- Chronic Knee Pain Success Story with Tai- Letting Go of Intensity
In this episode, I interview Tai Kuncio. She is a fellow moderator in the "Tell Me About Your Pain" Facebook Group. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/695823314550483) Tai had various pains starting in childhood, which they attributed to being athletic. But she struggled the most with chronic knee...
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Episode # 127- Unlearning Anxiety with Lucas
This week I share an interview with my client, Lucas. He struggled with several years of anxiety that was getting worse and more debilitating with time. At times it was even difficult for him to go to the store or to lunch with a friend without worrying, "what if I get an anxiety attack?" After 3...
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Episode #126- Healing Years of Pain & Symptoms with Kristina, Stacey and Callie
In this episode, I interview 3 women with amazing healing stories. We all met as Moderators for the "Tell Me About Your Pain" Facebook group created by Alan Gordon. Kristina has a list of symptoms that were healed with the mind-body approach. Including anxiety, eating disorders, depression,...
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Episode #125- The 6 F’s- Reactions that Increase Pain
This Episode is what Dr Schubiner calls "The Six F's" in his book "Unlearn Your Pain" These are natural reactions to pain, but they also cause the brain to amplify the pain or symptoms. Here are the 6 F's, listen for more info: "Fear of the pain or other symptom: We fear the sensation of it as it...
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Episode # 124- 10 Myths About Pain
In this episode I put together the 10 biggest myths I've seen around pain (especially chronic pain). Lots of new pain research is coming out, so if you think you know about pain (like I did as a Physical Therapist), there may be some new findings that surprise you. Here are the 10 biggest myths...
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Episode # 123- Unlearning Anxiety
Anxiety is a symptom that goes hand in hand with chronic pain and disease. In this episode I talk about what anxiety is, how it affects the body, why it's so common, and how to unlearn it! I give an example from my own life, and some techniques you can use to teach your brain to produce anxiety...
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Episode #122- Pain When Things Are Good
Pain when things are good is a phenomenon I see when people are unlearning pain and learning to regulate their nervous systems. When you're used to being in high alert, then letting your guard down and feeling safe can actually seem dangerous. We can expand our ability to stay in the "rest and...
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Episode #121- Tree Meditation for Calming Anxiety
Anxiety may be a familiar state for you - whether you have chronic pain or not. Anxiety is the nervous system state of "Flight". We are often not running from a tiger, but we are running to do more, scan for danger, and fix problems. Anxiety is uncomfortable in the body, and prompts action- doing...
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Episode #120 -Play is Medicine
Did you know play and fun may be the missing piece to your healing? Our society tells us we must work hard to get what we want, and we may discredit things that seem too easy. But there are many scientific benefits of play. We can learn faster (It takes only 10-40 repetitions in play, vs 400...
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Episode #119- High Alert
One habit that leads to the perpetuation of chronic pain is being in high alert. Do you often go to the worst case scenario? Do you habitually worry? When you don't have pain are you thinking about when the pain may return? These are signs you are living in high alert, and making your pain worse....
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Episode # 118- Pain is a Danger Signal
New pain science teaches something different than what I learned in Physical Therapy school 20 years ago. Pain is not directly related to the amount of injury present in the body. Pain does not indicate tissue damage, but rather pain is a danger signal. Research into chronic pain shows the brain...
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Episode #117- All About Me
This episode was part of a video I created to "Meet the Moderator" in the Tell Me About Your Pain Facebook Group. They had me answer some questions about myself and my healing journey, and I wanted to share that with you here. If you are want to spend some time learning with me, while you get to...
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Episode #116- Emotional Self Connection with Molly Claire
I'm excited to share this episode with a special guest- Life Coach and Host of "The Masterful Coach Podcast", Molly Claire When she agreed to be on my podcast, I had no idea how much our work has in common. Molly helps women in coaching, motherhood and family life become more self connected and...
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Episode # 115- Shelby’s Healing Journey and Energy Hacks
I love this interview with one of my favorite people, Shelby Hansen. She shares her healing journey including overcoming decades of hip pain to run a pain-free triathalon. Shelby is a coach for moms with Chronic Fatigue, and she shares with us some energy hacks that anyone can use to feel better…
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Episode # 114- Personality Traits and Chronic Pain
Did you know your personality traits are a predictor for whether you will have chronic pain or mindbody symptoms? Traits like perfectionism, people pleasing, and wanting to be liked keep the nervous system in dysregulated states and wreak havoc on the body. For me, my personality traits were the...
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Episode #113- How Skiing Helped My Back Pain
In this episode I tell you a real life story of my back pain and a flare I had this weekend. Since chronic pain has more to do with fear and nervous system dysregulation, I decided skiing sounded like a nice thing to do when my back pain was uncomfortable. Listen for how this counterintuitive...
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Episode #112- How to Know if You’re in Freeze
In this episode I talk all about the nervous system state of freeze. This is the nervous system state of shutdown when the system detects a mortal threat. The nervous system chooses this state as the best option for your survival, so it is not a conscious choice. Here is an example of what you…
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Episode #111- Pleasure on Purpose
In this episode, I talk about one of my favorite things to teach- having more rest, pleasure and fun in your life. Most people with chronic pain are devoted, high achieving, hard working, people pleasing givers who have a hard time taking time for themselves. But this concept is research based…
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Episode #110- Trauma and Post Traumatic Growth
In this episode I define trauma in nervous system terms, so you can have a more compassionate view about the survival states and why you go into them. Your nervous system is always trying to keep you safe and can get stuck in survival states from all different types of trauma. All of us have had...
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Episode #109- What is Somatic Coaching?
Today I talk all about somatic coaching- what it is, what it looks like, and who it can help. Somatic means body, so somatic coaching uses perceptions and sensations and attention to the body in order to enhance the coaching experience. Most therapy and coaching just involves talking, and using…
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Episode # 108- 5 Minute Somatic Tracking Meditation
In this episode I take you through a 5 minute somatic tracking meditation to calm your nervous system, and rewire your brain to create less pain! Somatic tracking is the process of going into the sensations in the body and describing them neutrally. This gives some space between the stimulus...
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Episode #107- Pain Catastrophizing
Today's Episode is about Pain Catastrophizing- what it is and how it affects your symptoms. People with high levels of pain catastrophizing are more likely to develop a new acute pain, more likely for their acute pain to turn chronic. And who catastrophize more before surgery are more likely to...
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Episode #106- Extinction Bursts
Episode #106- Extinction Bursts Today’s topic is about part of the normal mind-body healing process- extinction bursts. When you are starting to experience some success with healing, one thing that can commonly happen is a resurgence of pain in an old area or a completely new pain. Dr Sarno…
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Bonus Episode- Alignment Academy Founder’s Special
I know some of you are not on my email list or following me on social media (Why not?!?) But if you aren't, you may not have heard yet about my amazing "Founder's Special" for Alignment Academy. Alignment Academy is my group coaching program with 2 calls per week, modules, and resources for...
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Episode #104-Predictive Coding
Predictive coding is like a brain's subconscious shortcut. Predictive coding is the #1 reason for chronic pain symptoms. Especially for people who tell me they feel calm, but their pain is related to a movement, food, time of the month, etc. I give you a few examples of how predictive coding…
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Episode #103- Freedom From Food and Chronic Pain with Dr Katrina Ubell
In this episode I talk with Lifecoach and former client, Dr Katrina Ubell. Today we talk about Katrina's journey as a weightloss coach, and getting out of chronic pain. And we talk about Katrina's new book, out tomorrow- September 20, 2022! Get the sneak peek on "How to Lose Weight For the Last...
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Episode #102- 4 Ways Teens Trigger Survival Brain, and Relaxation Challenge with Torie
Today I interview Torie Henderson- Lifecoach for exhausted, overwhelmed moms. She talk about how teens can trigger survival brain, but the concepts here can apply to close family members or friends too if you aren't a parent of teens! Torie also struggled with chronic pain- vulvodynia starting at...
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Episode #101- Survival Brain
This episode is all about how your brain functions in survival mode, and how survival brain actually changes your thinking. The idea from the podcast was from a clip on Youtube by Jacob Ham called "Learning Brain vs Survival Brain." So since it's back to school time, I thought about how these...
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Episode #100 - Coaching on Pain
In today’s episode I want to tell you about how I coach on healing chronic pain. I merge PRT (Pain Reprocessing Therapy) with Life Coach tools and Nervous system regulation, for an amazing mix of learning and application into real life. PRT teaches us to reframe and rewire the brain’s signals of...
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Episode # 99- The Biology of Trauma with Dr Aimie Apigian
Today I have a special guest on the podcast, Dr Aimie Apigian. Dr Aimie is a leading medical expert on how life experiences get stored in the body and how to restore the body to it's best health. We talk about the chronic effects of trauma on the nervous system, and ultimately the health of the...
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Episode #98- What if It’s Not?
Here is a question that I heard a lot this weekend at the coaching retreat I went to- "What if it's not?" The survival brain will want us to focus all of our energy on figuring out all of the bad things that could happen and to prevent them. So it quickly forms habits of what foods or activities,...
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Episode #97- Top 3 Things To Do if you have Chronic Pain
There's a lot of information out there if you have chronic pain! So in this episode I wanted to simplify the three main concepts that I have found most important in getting out of chronic pain or disease. 1-Detective for the Opposite- This is the best place to start, by changing what you focus on...
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Episode #96- Becoming More Satisfied
Get out of living in survival mode and start to regulate your nervous system by becoming more satisfied! Many of us have an underlying belief that we need to be hard on ourselves to improve. So we train ourselves to look for problems or flaws, rather than feeling satisfied. But what I want to...
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Episode#95- Expand/Contract
Expand- Contract This is a principle of growth I first learned about from Peter Levine and Trauma Healing. He talks about how expansion is followed by contraction, and that this is the normal process of growth. When I found out everyone who had been with me at the Peter Levine retreat had a week…
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Episode #94- Acute Back Pain
This episode is all about what I did (and thought) when I had a sudden incidence of severe back pain a few days ago. I talk about kinesiotape, how to handle a new pain, and all of the ways I could see it was neuroplastic despite feeling real. Right after my back pain ended, I got sick. So I talk…
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Episode #93- How I Cured My Incontinence
I wanted to share this episode about the techniques I have found helpful in getting rid of my urinary incontinence. As well, you can see the process of my journey- being curious, open to information, taking what worked for me, and being open to my own inspiration for new ideas. For me, there were…
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Episode #92- The FIT Criteria- How to ”Rule- in” Neuroplastic Pain
Here are the FIT Criteria- From Dr Howard Schubiner's book "Unlearn Your Pain". The FIT Criteria are general ways that neuroplastic pain behaves, that are different than if pain was structural. You do not have to answer yes to all of these, with just one there is a good chance your pain can be...
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Episode #91- Making Peace with Food- with Elle Mace
Today I have a great interview with Elle Mace, who coaches people on making peace with food and their bodies. I was drawn to her work because of my own journey with dieting, hating my body, developing and eating disorder, and then finding my way to intuitive eating. The diet culture is based on...
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