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The Long Game — 241 episodes

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AI as the New Front Door to Brands, Solution Marketing, and Why Your Promise Beats Your Product with Johann Wrede (UserTesting)

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Kitchen Side: The GEO Gold Rush Problem

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What is Content Engineering?

4

Kitchen Side: AI Search Tactics, Telemetry and Team Structure

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Who Owns AI Visibility?

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Kitchen Side: Correlations, Chaos, and ChatGPT

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Earned Media, Brand Journalism, and AI Visibility with Noah Greenberg (CEO at Stacker)

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Kitchen Side: How to Move Fast

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Answer Engine Optimization Strategies & Tactics with Nick Lafferty and Josh Blyskal (Profound)

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Media Strategy, Ad Tech, and the Future of Search with Michael Walrath (Yext)

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A Million Tiny Whispers: The Psychology of AI Discovery & Digital PR with Logan Freedman

12

Kitchen Side: Can vs Should in Automation

13

Kitchen Side: Boots, Bots & Brand Gravity

14

Scrappy to Strategic: Erik Episcopo on Building SEO Systems, Navigating AI Shifts, and a Growth Mindset

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Kitchen Side: From Traffic to Influence - Marketing in the Age of AI (and AI Mode)

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Navigating the AI Hype: The Opportunity for Marketers, Optimizing for LLMs, Specific Use Cases, and Making AI More Accessible

17

Kitchen Side: Generative Engine Optimization

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Kitchen Side: Spryng Reflections, Connection, Community, and Soul

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Person-Based Marketing, MQLs, Ice Baths, and GTM Alignment with Alice Wyatt

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Molly St. Louis on Creativity, Theatrical Storytelling, and Bold Campaigns

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Kitchen Side: Live in New York! - Part 2

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Live in New York! - Part 1

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​​The Behavioral Science Episode with Erik Johnson

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Kitchen Side: Boots on the Ground and the Power of Vocabulary and Depth

25

Startup Pricing, LLMs, Return of Quality, and Multimedia SEO with Aashish Krishna Kumar (Zuora)

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Content as Product, Mediocre SEO, and Optimism for the Future with Mark Lindquist

27

Sean Ellis on the Evolution of Growth, PMF, and Testing in the AI Era

28

Alex Talks to Startup Founders About SEO (Founders Common)

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Omnichannel Advertising, Attribution, and Unifying Brand & Performance with Katie Arena

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Kitchen Side: SEO Burpees, Death of Vanity Traffic, and NSM

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Chris Walker on the CMO's Dilemma, Attribution, and Modern GTM Strategy

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Kitchen Side: ChatGPT Search, EOY Planning, and Productivity Systems

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Kitchen Side: The Operations Episode with Gray MacKenzie (ZenPilot)

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Why Human Expertise Matters More Than Ever in Content with Katie Kelly

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Kitchen Side: Working In the Business, Founder Mode, and Avoiding the Traffic Trap

36

Kitchen Side: Perfectionism vs Experimentation, The Best Career Advice, and What SEO Programs Need to Succeed

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Kitchen Side: Marketers Caught in False Consensus Bias and Exploring New-ish SEO Strategies

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Building a Company in Crisis and Rethinking B2B Marketing with the RINse and Repeat Framework with Marc Thomas

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Kitchen Side: We Get Interviewed by AI Generated Questions

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Kitchen Side: Category Domination in SEO and Why Focusing on Inputs is Underrated

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Personal Branding, Online Visibility, and Belief Statements with Finn McKenty

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Kitchen side: How to Develop an Analytical Mindset

43

Kitchen Side Episode 200: The Long Game Magazine Pre-Launch

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Brand Strategy, Performance Marketing, and Building Engaged Communities with Evelyn Frison

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The Flux in the SEO Industry, What Programmatic SEO Will Look Like, and Taking a Calm Approach to Business with Thenuka Karunaratne

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Kitchen Side: Identifying Strategy SEO Programs, Untraditional SEO Backgrounds, and We're Hiring a Director of Organic Growth

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Digital watercoolers, echo chambers, and big companies who write bad content with Ryan Law (Ahrefs)

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The Future of SEO & Ways We Actually Use AI (Kitchen Side)

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From Growth Leader to Coaching Growth Leaders, Common Challenges for Heads of Growth, and the State of PLG with Andrew Capland

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Algorithms and How They Impact Content, Art, Culture, and Humanity with Kyle Chayka

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Product-Led Onboarding, Video-First Content, and AI Repurposing with Ramli John (AppCues)

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Enterprise SEO, SERP degradation, and the SEO origins of Healthline with Ethan Hays (Moz)

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Modern SEO, Information Gain, and Organic Revenue Attribution with Parthi Loganathan (Letterdrop)

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Counterintuitive CRO Advice for B2B SaaS Websites, the Decision to Sell a Business, and Mental Health for Business Executives with Sahil Patel

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Product Marketing as a Strategic Role, Differentiating from Competitors, and Iterating on Company Narratives at High Growth Tech Companies with Eve Alexander, VP of Product Marketing at Seismic

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Kitchen Side: "Do Nothing," Cope Creep, and Life Lessons from Es Devlin

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The Content Ops Challenge, Scaling Great Work, Saving the Internet, and the Risks of SEO-Only Content with David Baum (Relato)

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Tactical Lessons in Change Management, the Preeminence of Messaging, and Risk Weighted Growth Portfolios with Alefiya Dhilla

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Kitchen Side: The Great Brand Marketing Debate, Snoop Dogg, and B2B Marketers Creating Confusion

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Cracking the Code of Intent-Based Marketing: Lessons from Koala's CEO (Tido Carriero)

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How Will AI Impact the SEO Profession, User Search Behavior, Businesses, and the Internet? with Mordy Oberstein

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Jenn Long on Complex Content Migrations, Keywords as Customer Research, and Content Portfolio Allocation

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Blogging is Underrated, Operationalizing Subject Matter Expertise into Content, and Scaling in Competitive Spaces w/ Nate Matherson (Positional)

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All About Outbound Sales and Marketing with Ritvij Gautam (Glencoco)

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Kitchen Side: Signaling Humanity in a Sea of AI, Revival of Long-Form, and Fake Experts on LinkedIn

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Kitchen Side: How Do You Develop Taste?

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The Impact of AI on Content, Search, Learning, and More (Learning to Change)

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A Growth Executive Explains Brand Marketing, Paid Acquisition, and the Future of Growth with Patrick Moran (Robinhood)

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Well I guess this is growing up...

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Connecting Dots as a Generalist, Going from Product to CMO, and Lessons Growing in a Mature Category with Shay Howe (ActiveCampaign)

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Kitchen Side: Nihilistic Funks, Losing Inspiration, and Google's Helpful Content Update

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Back-to-Back Hypergrowth Companies, Growth Lessons from Piano and Classical Music, and Mass Scale Personalization with Olga Denisova

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Kitchen Side: Team Offsites, SWOT Analyses, and Selfishness

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From Wall Street to Creator, a $645,099 Business Pivot, Principled Marketing, and Combatting Inner Narratives with Khe Hy

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Lindsay Tjepkema (Casted) on Doing More with Less, B2B Podcasting, and Human-Centric Marketing

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Kitchen Side: Eating From a Smaller Plate (or Bloat is Bad, Actually)

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Automating SEO, Getting Executive Buy-In, and Career Growth Through Curiosity with Braden Becker

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Kitchen Side: Surround Sound SEO & Optimizing for Generative Answers

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Kitchen Side: Lessons Learned Hiring & Tips for Job Seekers

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Mis-Using Generative AI in Content Marketing, Improving Content Operations, and AI Becoming Marketers

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Brand Building in E-commerce vs SaaS, Being a Weird Marketer, and Hiring Scrappy Marketers with Alexa Kilroy

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Building a Differentiated Generative AI Product, Real AI Use Cases, and Making Content Quality Objective with Suzanne Kagan

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Building a Cult Following in B2B and Revisiting Product Marketing as Your Industry Matures with Sandy Mangat

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Kitchen Side: Marketers Aren't Storytellers, Hard Truths in SaaS, and SEO Signal vs Noise

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Kyle Denhoff on HubSpot's New Media Strategy, Podcasts, Creator Program, and Monetizing YouTube

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Hypothesis-Driven Marketing Strategy, Efficient Growth, and How to Hire Product Marketers with Trinity Nguyen

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Building Communities for B2B Brands, Becoming a Marketing Leader, and Being Privileged with Kash Miah

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Building a Content and SEO Strategy for a PLG Company with Kirsty Finlayson

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Kitchen Side: MMA, Objective Content Quality, Flaws of "Tone of Voice"

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Lani Assaf (Maven) on Behavioral Science, First Principles, Free Will, and Education

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Kitchen Side: Curmudgeonly Hot Takes, Applied Barbell Strategy, and Threads

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Mariya Delano on the Future of the Internet, Fragmenting Platforms, and Distribution in the Modern Age

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Managing a Content Program During a Company Pivot, the Evolution of B2B Content Marketing, and Executive Communication with Jenny Thai

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Building a Content & SEO Go-to-Market, Making Data-Driven Decisions, and Competing in SaaS

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Kitchen Side: SEO Chad and the Benefits of Being Basic

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Gregory Ciotti on the Modern "Creator GTM" Content Strategy and Video as a Foundational Marketing Tool

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Melissa Zehner on Fractional Content Leadership and Fighting BS Content in B2B Marketing

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Branca Ballot (VP Marketing at Glide) on Startup vs Corporate Marketing Leadership, Driving Big Projects, and Remote Work

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Building Marketing Programs and Teams from Scratch and How to Hire Great Marketers with Charlie Liang

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From Farm Work to Founding an Enterprise Software Startup Fixing Pay Equity and Transparency with Lisa Wallace

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Chris Toy (MarketerHire) on Why Marketers Run The World, Adaptability for Survival, and the Generative AI Revolution

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Kitchen Side: Spryng Conference Recap, AI, Kid's Table Stuff

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Bridget Poetker (Loop & Tie) on Content Hot Takes and the Transition from Content to Growth

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AI Hype and Opportunity, Building Consumer Experiences into a B2B Product, and How Incentive Systems Inform Everything with Jon Reilly, Co-Founder & COO of Akkio

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Product-Led Sales, Product Validation, and Unintentional Category Creation with Alexa Grabell, CEO of Pocus

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Building Partner Programs and The Value of Being a Generalist with Barrett King

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How Constraints Force Focus in Marketing, Becoming a First-Time Manager, and Anti-Specialization for a Diverse Marketing Career with David Fallarme

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Finding Go-to-Market and Business Model Fit, Setting the Right Marketing Goals, and Marketers as Investors with Emily Kramer

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Kitchen Side: The Impact of Google SGE and AI on Business, Human Behavior, and Society

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Corey Haines on Programmatic SEO, Media Marketing, and SaaS Growth

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AI Hype and Normalization, How to Actually Use Generative AI Tools, and the Magic of Content Marketing with Ben Pines, Director of Content at Wordtune

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A Live Fireside Chat with Jay Acunzo

113

The Future of Content Marketing (Live Panel with Devin Bramhall, Ali Orlando Wert, and Anum Hussain)

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Building Growth Strategy at the Executive Level and Learnings from Running Growth at Disney and Live with David Mausolf

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Defining Objective Content Quality Standards & Why Content Marketing is Cheesy with Margaret Jones (Airtable)

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Kitchen Side: Planning vs Action, the Importance of Product Marketing in Content & SEO, the 3 Keys to B2B Marketing, and Taste

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Joel Klettke on the Perfect Case Study, Why Process Matters, and Mindset Shifts to Tackle Fear and Uncertainty

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Experimenting with Pricing and Packaging and the Journey from Product Manager to CEO with Patrick Despres-Gallagher

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Natalie Marcotullio on the "Pass Me The Ball" Mindset and Strategic Tradeoffs in Startup Growth

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Going Up Against PowerPoint and Google Slides, How to Give Powerful Presentations, and Why Product-Market Fit is Overrated with Sarah Kiefer, CMO of Pitch

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Growing Superhuman with Love-First Word of Mouth and Marketing During a Recession

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Building ABM Orchestrations and Marketing Teams from Scratch with Brandon Redlinger

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Kitchen Side: Learnings from Publishing 100 Podcast Episodes and How We Landed in the Top 10% of Spotify Podcasts

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AI as a Writing Partner, Not Human Replacement with Krista Doyle of Jasper

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Building and Scaling OpenPhone from Scratch and Leveling Up as a Leader with Daryna Kulya

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Contrarian Content Leadership Advice, Process is Overrated (?), and How to Grow Your Content Career with Benyamin Elias (Podia)

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Big Bets in B2B Marketing, Leveling Up the Content Profession, and Building a Marketing Team During the Pandemic with Joei Chan

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From Content Manager to CEO, The Future of AI and Content, and How Content Marketers Need to Evolve with Devin Bramhall

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Kitchen Side: The Future of B2B Demand Gen, Generative AI's Impact on Content, and Leveling Up Content Marketing

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Why the Best Marketers are B2B Marketers, Getting Creative with B2B Marketing, and the Changing Game of Ecommerce with Kris Mobayeni

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Bobby Pinero (Equals) on Founder-Led Content, Early Traction, and Faith Over Fear

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Kitchen Side: The Ultimate Imposter Syndrome Episode

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Vitor Peçanha (Rock Content): Killing the Term "Content Marketing" and the Emergence of Creativity and Strategy

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Building a Thriving Freelance Writing Career: Insights and Strategies from Kayla Voigt

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The Evolution of Digital Events, Finding a Competitive Edge, and Running a Marketing Team Like a Media Company with Palash Soni

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What Marketers Need to Know About GA4 and Content Analytics with JJ Reynolds

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How to Build a B2B Software Company with Community and Use AI Tools to Be More Productive with Austin Distel

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Running Product-Led Growth and Go-To-Market Motions During a Recession and Unlocking Career Growth with Holly Chen

139

Kitchen SIde: Demsytifying "Media Marketing" (w/ Guest Ronnie Higgins)

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How to Market to Developers with a Product-Led Growth and Enterprise Go-to-Market Playbook

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How Marketers Waste Time and Resources, and the Audacity of Big Goals with Jakub Rudnik

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Jay Acunzo on Creativity, Storytelling, and Why You Need Courage to Break Out of Mediocrity

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The Unspoken Rules of Running a Business with Female Founders Samantha Anderl and Andrea Wildt (Harlow)

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Affiliate-Driven Content Sites and Link Building with Sandeep Mallya (99Signals)

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Event-Led Growth and Customer Education with Mark Kilens (Airmeet)

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Kitchen Side: Our Attempt at Ghostwriting Thought Leadership Content

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Office Hours: Building SEO Growth Loops with Kevin Indig

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Upcoming Trends in Marketing According to Futurist Mark Schaefer

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Kitchen Side: Should You Create a Glossary as Part of Your SEO Strategy?

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Product Led-Growth Benchmarks with Sam Richard (ngrok)

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Recent Trends and Building an Audience with Amanda Natividad (SparkToro)

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How to Write for Humans, But Optimize for SEO with Maddy Osman (The Blogsmith)

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Kitchen Side: How Our Thinking of Content Strategy Has Evolved Over Time

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How to Fulfill Customers’ Needs with CRO with Raphael Paulin-Daigle

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How to Build A High-Performing Marketing Team with Andrew Davies

156

Fireside Chat with Tim Stoddart (Copyblogger, Stodzy)

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How to Level Up as a Growth Marketer with Joe Lee (Ontra)

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Product-Led Growth and Sales with Thomas Schiavone (Calixa)

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How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

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Kitchen Side: Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

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How to Lead in an Early-Stage Company with Eric Hann (Order)

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World-Shaking Webinars with Annette Cardwell (Lattice)

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Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

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Running a Content Program as a One-Person Team with Nikhil Venkatesa

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Redefining Thought Leadership with Ryan McCready (Reforge)

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Kitchen Side: Meeting Demand (SEO) vs. Establishing Demand

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How to Maximize Growth with a Digital Marketing Agency with John Doherty

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The Power of Reputation: How to Build a Business that Lasts with Thomas Smale

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Marketing to an Over-Marketed Society with Michael Brenner

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Kitchen Side: How We're Planning to Survive our First Recession

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How to Break Through the Noise in Marketing with Brian Honigman

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How to Adapt to Thrive for SaaS Companies with Michele Don Durbin

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Mission-Driven Content for Small Businesses with Melanie Deziel

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Rethinking Productivity with Sunsama Founder Ashutosh Priyadarshy

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How to Maximize Influencer Marketing with Neal Schaffer

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Building a B2B Audience and Media Company with Dave Gerhardt (DGMG)

177

How to Write Copy that Resonates with Liz Willits

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How To Tell a Story Worth Hearing with Matthew Dicks

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Build a Content Playground, Not a Funnel with Ashley Faus (Atlassian)

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Why Social Proof is the Key to Every Type of Marketing with Andy Crestodina

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How to Produce Top of the Line Content with Brad Smith

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How to Freelance Like a Pro with Brian Speronello

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Kitchen Side: How To Build an Audience with Content Marketing

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Re-Building Trust in Your Brand with Margot Bloomstein

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Ross Simmonds on Life Lessons from Nanna and Building a Content Distribution Engine

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How SparkToro Approaches Growth & Productivity (Rand Fishkin)

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How to Build a Content Engine & Media Company with Ronnie Higgins (Hopin)

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How to Build an Audience-Driven Marketing Machine with Emily Marsh (Iconosquare)

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Kitchen Side: Our Founders' Career Backgrounds, Greatest Accomplishments, and Biggest Regrets

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Link-Building Tactics That Work, and more with Jeremy Moser (uSERP)

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Content Operations at Massive Scale with Natasha Nel (HackerNoon)

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Successful Go-To-Market Strategies with Alfie Marsh (Spendesk)

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In-Person, Virtual, & Hybrid Events with Rebecca Miller (Splash)

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Building High Quality Events with Vasil Azarov (Growth Blazers)

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SEO as a Distribution Channel, and more with Mischa Vaughn (Webflow)

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Tactical Tips to Move the Needle in SaaS Copywriting with Josh Garofalo (Sway Copy)

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Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

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Why Content Marketing Should Sell... and More Lessons with Tyler Hakes (Optimist)

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How To Increase your Experimentation Wins with Andrew Anderson (ZenBusiness)

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How To Fuel Your Content Machine with Kevin Indig (Shopify)

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Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

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040: From Journalism to Marketing and Keeping the Human Element in Mind with Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper)

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039: Impactful Case Studies with Emma Siemasko (Stories By Us)

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038: Evolve Your SEO and Content Marketing with Ross Hudgens

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037: Kitchen Side: What Should a Content Marketer Be Goaled On?

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036: Content Experimentation & Why a Formal Education is Not Required with Shanelle Mullin (Experimentation & Analysis Lead, Shopify)

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035: How to Create a Revenue-Generating Blog with Ryan Robinson

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034: Building a Thriving Career as a Wordsmith with Juliana Casale (Content Strategist at Wave)

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033: Growth Mentorship & Avoiding Burnout with Dani Hart

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032: Mastering Email Conversion & Strategy with Samar Owais

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031: The Fundamentals of Conversion Rate Optimization with Brian Massey (Co-Founder, Conversion Sciences)

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030: Kitchen Side: Is Your Blog a Publication or a Library?

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029: The Art & Science of Hacking Growth with Morgan Brown (VP of Growth, Shopify)

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028: Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

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027: Kitchen Side: Is Organic Traffic the Best Traffic?

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026: Honing Freelance Writing in a Noisy Market with Kaleigh Moore

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025: From Creative Contributor to Creative Catalyst with Camille Trent (Head of Content, Dooly)

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024: Community Driven Content with Sean Blanda (Director of Content, Crossbeam)

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023: How to Differentiate Content in a Crowded Space with Brooklin Nash

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#022: Buyer Personas Don’t Have to Suck! with Adrienne Barnes (Best Buyer Persona)

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#021: Creating vs Capturing Demand and Category Creation with Chris Schreiber

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#020: Spark Creativity and Generate Memorable Content with Ryan Law (Director of Marketing at Animalz)

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#019: Peak Performing, High-Earning Freelance Writing with Michael Keenan (Co-Founder at Peak Freelance)

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#018: Kitchen Side: How to Talk to Your CMO About Content Marketing

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#017: Kitchen Side: How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

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#016: Leveling Up in Business and Marketing with Eric Siu (CEO of Clickflow)

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#015: Kitchen Side: Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

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#014: How to Build Systems for Content & SEO (+ Advanced Poker Tips) w/ Bernard Huang (Co-founder at Clearscope)

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#013: A Fireside Chat with Tim Soulo, CMO at Ahrefs

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#012: Email Marketing Advice from Ilona Abramova (VP Operations at AppSumo)

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#011: Kitchen Side: Finding, Vetting and Hiring Freelancers

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#010: Pursuing Excellence & Principles for Running 3 Businesses with Peep Laja

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#009: Building Communities, Teams and Companies through Marketing with Sabel Harris

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#008: Marrying High Caliber Content with a Demanding Publishing Cadence with Tracey Wallace

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#007: Lessons in Risk, Game Theory, and Winning at Marketing with Bill King

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#006: Kitchen Side: How Top Content Creators Build Passionate Audiences

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#005: Kitchen Side: How To Be An Effective Content Marketing Strategist

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#004: Kitchen Side: How to Build a Content Editorial Calendar

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#003: Finding Your Creative Sweet Spot with David Kadavy

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#002: Kitchen Side: Behind The Long Game Podcast

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#001: Content Operations, Automation, and Storytelling with Tommy Walker