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The Long Game — 244 episodes

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Kitchen Side: The Internet Has a Memory

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Proof Over Promises, Case Studies, and Marketing When Trust Is Low with Sofia Sulikowski

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Kitchen Side: The Hidden Drivers of AI Search

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AI as the New Front Door to Brands, Solution Marketing, and Why Your Promise Beats Your Product with Johann Wrede (UserTesting)

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Kitchen Side: The GEO Gold Rush Problem

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What is Content Engineering?

7

Kitchen Side: AI Search Tactics, Telemetry and Team Structure

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Who Owns AI Visibility?

9

Kitchen Side: Correlations, Chaos, and ChatGPT

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Earned Media, Brand Journalism, and AI Visibility with Noah Greenberg (CEO at Stacker)

11

Kitchen Side: How to Move Fast

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Answer Engine Optimization Strategies & Tactics with Nick Lafferty and Josh Blyskal (Profound)

13

Media Strategy, Ad Tech, and the Future of Search with Michael Walrath (Yext)

14

A Million Tiny Whispers: The Psychology of AI Discovery & Digital PR with Logan Freedman

15

Kitchen Side: Can vs Should in Automation

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Kitchen Side: Boots, Bots & Brand Gravity

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Scrappy to Strategic: Erik Episcopo on Building SEO Systems, Navigating AI Shifts, and a Growth Mindset

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Kitchen Side: From Traffic to Influence - Marketing in the Age of AI (and AI Mode)

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Navigating the AI Hype: The Opportunity for Marketers, Optimizing for LLMs, Specific Use Cases, and Making AI More Accessible

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Kitchen Side: Generative Engine Optimization

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Kitchen Side: Spryng Reflections, Connection, Community, and Soul

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Person-Based Marketing, MQLs, Ice Baths, and GTM Alignment with Alice Wyatt

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Molly St. Louis on Creativity, Theatrical Storytelling, and Bold Campaigns

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Kitchen Side: Live in New York! - Part 2

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Live in New York! - Part 1

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​​The Behavioral Science Episode with Erik Johnson

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Kitchen Side: Boots on the Ground and the Power of Vocabulary and Depth

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Startup Pricing, LLMs, Return of Quality, and Multimedia SEO with Aashish Krishna Kumar (Zuora)

29

Content as Product, Mediocre SEO, and Optimism for the Future with Mark Lindquist

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Sean Ellis on the Evolution of Growth, PMF, and Testing in the AI Era

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Alex Talks to Startup Founders About SEO (Founders Common)

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Omnichannel Advertising, Attribution, and Unifying Brand & Performance with Katie Arena

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Kitchen Side: SEO Burpees, Death of Vanity Traffic, and NSM

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Chris Walker on the CMO's Dilemma, Attribution, and Modern GTM Strategy

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Kitchen Side: ChatGPT Search, EOY Planning, and Productivity Systems

36

Kitchen Side: The Operations Episode with Gray MacKenzie (ZenPilot)

37

Why Human Expertise Matters More Than Ever in Content with Katie Kelly

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Kitchen Side: Working In the Business, Founder Mode, and Avoiding the Traffic Trap

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Kitchen Side: Perfectionism vs Experimentation, The Best Career Advice, and What SEO Programs Need to Succeed

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Kitchen Side: Marketers Caught in False Consensus Bias and Exploring New-ish SEO Strategies

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Building a Company in Crisis and Rethinking B2B Marketing with the RINse and Repeat Framework with Marc Thomas

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Kitchen Side: We Get Interviewed by AI Generated Questions

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Kitchen Side: Category Domination in SEO and Why Focusing on Inputs is Underrated

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Personal Branding, Online Visibility, and Belief Statements with Finn McKenty

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Kitchen side: How to Develop an Analytical Mindset

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Kitchen Side Episode 200: The Long Game Magazine Pre-Launch

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Brand Strategy, Performance Marketing, and Building Engaged Communities with Evelyn Frison

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The Flux in the SEO Industry, What Programmatic SEO Will Look Like, and Taking a Calm Approach to Business with Thenuka Karunaratne

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Kitchen Side: Identifying Strategy SEO Programs, Untraditional SEO Backgrounds, and We're Hiring a Director of Organic Growth

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Digital watercoolers, echo chambers, and big companies who write bad content with Ryan Law (Ahrefs)

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The Future of SEO & Ways We Actually Use AI (Kitchen Side)

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From Growth Leader to Coaching Growth Leaders, Common Challenges for Heads of Growth, and the State of PLG with Andrew Capland

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Algorithms and How They Impact Content, Art, Culture, and Humanity with Kyle Chayka

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Product-Led Onboarding, Video-First Content, and AI Repurposing with Ramli John (AppCues)

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Enterprise SEO, SERP degradation, and the SEO origins of Healthline with Ethan Hays (Moz)

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Modern SEO, Information Gain, and Organic Revenue Attribution with Parthi Loganathan (Letterdrop)

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Counterintuitive CRO Advice for B2B SaaS Websites, the Decision to Sell a Business, and Mental Health for Business Executives with Sahil Patel

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Product Marketing as a Strategic Role, Differentiating from Competitors, and Iterating on Company Narratives at High Growth Tech Companies with Eve Alexander, VP of Product Marketing at Seismic

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Kitchen Side: "Do Nothing," Cope Creep, and Life Lessons from Es Devlin

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The Content Ops Challenge, Scaling Great Work, Saving the Internet, and the Risks of SEO-Only Content with David Baum (Relato)

61

Tactical Lessons in Change Management, the Preeminence of Messaging, and Risk Weighted Growth Portfolios with Alefiya Dhilla

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Kitchen Side: The Great Brand Marketing Debate, Snoop Dogg, and B2B Marketers Creating Confusion

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Cracking the Code of Intent-Based Marketing: Lessons from Koala's CEO (Tido Carriero)

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How Will AI Impact the SEO Profession, User Search Behavior, Businesses, and the Internet? with Mordy Oberstein

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Jenn Long on Complex Content Migrations, Keywords as Customer Research, and Content Portfolio Allocation

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Blogging is Underrated, Operationalizing Subject Matter Expertise into Content, and Scaling in Competitive Spaces w/ Nate Matherson (Positional)

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All About Outbound Sales and Marketing with Ritvij Gautam (Glencoco)

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Kitchen Side: Signaling Humanity in a Sea of AI, Revival of Long-Form, and Fake Experts on LinkedIn

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Kitchen Side: How Do You Develop Taste?

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The Impact of AI on Content, Search, Learning, and More (Learning to Change)

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A Growth Executive Explains Brand Marketing, Paid Acquisition, and the Future of Growth with Patrick Moran (Robinhood)

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Well I guess this is growing up...

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Connecting Dots as a Generalist, Going from Product to CMO, and Lessons Growing in a Mature Category with Shay Howe (ActiveCampaign)

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Kitchen Side: Nihilistic Funks, Losing Inspiration, and Google's Helpful Content Update

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Back-to-Back Hypergrowth Companies, Growth Lessons from Piano and Classical Music, and Mass Scale Personalization with Olga Denisova

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Kitchen Side: Team Offsites, SWOT Analyses, and Selfishness

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From Wall Street to Creator, a $645,099 Business Pivot, Principled Marketing, and Combatting Inner Narratives with Khe Hy

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Lindsay Tjepkema (Casted) on Doing More with Less, B2B Podcasting, and Human-Centric Marketing

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Kitchen Side: Eating From a Smaller Plate (or Bloat is Bad, Actually)

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Automating SEO, Getting Executive Buy-In, and Career Growth Through Curiosity with Braden Becker

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Kitchen Side: Surround Sound SEO & Optimizing for Generative Answers

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Kitchen Side: Lessons Learned Hiring & Tips for Job Seekers

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Mis-Using Generative AI in Content Marketing, Improving Content Operations, and AI Becoming Marketers

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Brand Building in E-commerce vs SaaS, Being a Weird Marketer, and Hiring Scrappy Marketers with Alexa Kilroy

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Building a Differentiated Generative AI Product, Real AI Use Cases, and Making Content Quality Objective with Suzanne Kagan

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Building a Cult Following in B2B and Revisiting Product Marketing as Your Industry Matures with Sandy Mangat

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Kitchen Side: Marketers Aren't Storytellers, Hard Truths in SaaS, and SEO Signal vs Noise

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Kyle Denhoff on HubSpot's New Media Strategy, Podcasts, Creator Program, and Monetizing YouTube

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Hypothesis-Driven Marketing Strategy, Efficient Growth, and How to Hire Product Marketers with Trinity Nguyen

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Building Communities for B2B Brands, Becoming a Marketing Leader, and Being Privileged with Kash Miah

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Building a Content and SEO Strategy for a PLG Company with Kirsty Finlayson

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Kitchen Side: MMA, Objective Content Quality, Flaws of "Tone of Voice"

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Lani Assaf (Maven) on Behavioral Science, First Principles, Free Will, and Education

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Kitchen Side: Curmudgeonly Hot Takes, Applied Barbell Strategy, and Threads

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Mariya Delano on the Future of the Internet, Fragmenting Platforms, and Distribution in the Modern Age

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Managing a Content Program During a Company Pivot, the Evolution of B2B Content Marketing, and Executive Communication with Jenny Thai

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Building a Content & SEO Go-to-Market, Making Data-Driven Decisions, and Competing in SaaS

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Kitchen Side: SEO Chad and the Benefits of Being Basic

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Gregory Ciotti on the Modern "Creator GTM" Content Strategy and Video as a Foundational Marketing Tool

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Melissa Zehner on Fractional Content Leadership and Fighting BS Content in B2B Marketing

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Branca Ballot (VP Marketing at Glide) on Startup vs Corporate Marketing Leadership, Driving Big Projects, and Remote Work

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Building Marketing Programs and Teams from Scratch and How to Hire Great Marketers with Charlie Liang

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From Farm Work to Founding an Enterprise Software Startup Fixing Pay Equity and Transparency with Lisa Wallace

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Chris Toy (MarketerHire) on Why Marketers Run The World, Adaptability for Survival, and the Generative AI Revolution

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Kitchen Side: Spryng Conference Recap, AI, Kid's Table Stuff

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Bridget Poetker (Loop & Tie) on Content Hot Takes and the Transition from Content to Growth

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AI Hype and Opportunity, Building Consumer Experiences into a B2B Product, and How Incentive Systems Inform Everything with Jon Reilly, Co-Founder & COO of Akkio

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Product-Led Sales, Product Validation, and Unintentional Category Creation with Alexa Grabell, CEO of Pocus

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Building Partner Programs and The Value of Being a Generalist with Barrett King

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How Constraints Force Focus in Marketing, Becoming a First-Time Manager, and Anti-Specialization for a Diverse Marketing Career with David Fallarme

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Finding Go-to-Market and Business Model Fit, Setting the Right Marketing Goals, and Marketers as Investors with Emily Kramer

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Kitchen Side: The Impact of Google SGE and AI on Business, Human Behavior, and Society

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Corey Haines on Programmatic SEO, Media Marketing, and SaaS Growth

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AI Hype and Normalization, How to Actually Use Generative AI Tools, and the Magic of Content Marketing with Ben Pines, Director of Content at Wordtune

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A Live Fireside Chat with Jay Acunzo

116

The Future of Content Marketing (Live Panel with Devin Bramhall, Ali Orlando Wert, and Anum Hussain)

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Building Growth Strategy at the Executive Level and Learnings from Running Growth at Disney and Live with David Mausolf

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Defining Objective Content Quality Standards & Why Content Marketing is Cheesy with Margaret Jones (Airtable)

119

Kitchen Side: Planning vs Action, the Importance of Product Marketing in Content & SEO, the 3 Keys to B2B Marketing, and Taste

120

Joel Klettke on the Perfect Case Study, Why Process Matters, and Mindset Shifts to Tackle Fear and Uncertainty

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Experimenting with Pricing and Packaging and the Journey from Product Manager to CEO with Patrick Despres-Gallagher

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Natalie Marcotullio on the "Pass Me The Ball" Mindset and Strategic Tradeoffs in Startup Growth

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Going Up Against PowerPoint and Google Slides, How to Give Powerful Presentations, and Why Product-Market Fit is Overrated with Sarah Kiefer, CMO of Pitch

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Growing Superhuman with Love-First Word of Mouth and Marketing During a Recession

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Building ABM Orchestrations and Marketing Teams from Scratch with Brandon Redlinger

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Kitchen Side: Learnings from Publishing 100 Podcast Episodes and How We Landed in the Top 10% of Spotify Podcasts

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AI as a Writing Partner, Not Human Replacement with Krista Doyle of Jasper

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Building and Scaling OpenPhone from Scratch and Leveling Up as a Leader with Daryna Kulya

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Contrarian Content Leadership Advice, Process is Overrated (?), and How to Grow Your Content Career with Benyamin Elias (Podia)

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Big Bets in B2B Marketing, Leveling Up the Content Profession, and Building a Marketing Team During the Pandemic with Joei Chan

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From Content Manager to CEO, The Future of AI and Content, and How Content Marketers Need to Evolve with Devin Bramhall

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Kitchen Side: The Future of B2B Demand Gen, Generative AI's Impact on Content, and Leveling Up Content Marketing

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Why the Best Marketers are B2B Marketers, Getting Creative with B2B Marketing, and the Changing Game of Ecommerce with Kris Mobayeni

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Bobby Pinero (Equals) on Founder-Led Content, Early Traction, and Faith Over Fear

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Kitchen Side: The Ultimate Imposter Syndrome Episode

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Vitor Peçanha (Rock Content): Killing the Term "Content Marketing" and the Emergence of Creativity and Strategy

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Building a Thriving Freelance Writing Career: Insights and Strategies from Kayla Voigt

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The Evolution of Digital Events, Finding a Competitive Edge, and Running a Marketing Team Like a Media Company with Palash Soni

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What Marketers Need to Know About GA4 and Content Analytics with JJ Reynolds

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How to Build a B2B Software Company with Community and Use AI Tools to Be More Productive with Austin Distel

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Running Product-Led Growth and Go-To-Market Motions During a Recession and Unlocking Career Growth with Holly Chen

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Kitchen SIde: Demsytifying "Media Marketing" (w/ Guest Ronnie Higgins)

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How to Market to Developers with a Product-Led Growth and Enterprise Go-to-Market Playbook

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How Marketers Waste Time and Resources, and the Audacity of Big Goals with Jakub Rudnik

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Jay Acunzo on Creativity, Storytelling, and Why You Need Courage to Break Out of Mediocrity

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The Unspoken Rules of Running a Business with Female Founders Samantha Anderl and Andrea Wildt (Harlow)

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Affiliate-Driven Content Sites and Link Building with Sandeep Mallya (99Signals)

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Event-Led Growth and Customer Education with Mark Kilens (Airmeet)

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Kitchen Side: Our Attempt at Ghostwriting Thought Leadership Content

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Office Hours: Building SEO Growth Loops with Kevin Indig

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Upcoming Trends in Marketing According to Futurist Mark Schaefer

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Kitchen Side: Should You Create a Glossary as Part of Your SEO Strategy?

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Product Led-Growth Benchmarks with Sam Richard (ngrok)

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Recent Trends and Building an Audience with Amanda Natividad (SparkToro)

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How to Write for Humans, But Optimize for SEO with Maddy Osman (The Blogsmith)

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Kitchen Side: How Our Thinking of Content Strategy Has Evolved Over Time

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How to Fulfill Customers’ Needs with CRO with Raphael Paulin-Daigle

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How to Build A High-Performing Marketing Team with Andrew Davies

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Fireside Chat with Tim Stoddart (Copyblogger, Stodzy)

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How to Level Up as a Growth Marketer with Joe Lee (Ontra)

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Product-Led Growth and Sales with Thomas Schiavone (Calixa)

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How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

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Kitchen Side: Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

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How to Lead in an Early-Stage Company with Eric Hann (Order)

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World-Shaking Webinars with Annette Cardwell (Lattice)

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Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

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Running a Content Program as a One-Person Team with Nikhil Venkatesa

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Redefining Thought Leadership with Ryan McCready (Reforge)

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Kitchen Side: Meeting Demand (SEO) vs. Establishing Demand

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How to Maximize Growth with a Digital Marketing Agency with John Doherty

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The Power of Reputation: How to Build a Business that Lasts with Thomas Smale

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Marketing to an Over-Marketed Society with Michael Brenner

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Kitchen Side: How We're Planning to Survive our First Recession

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How to Break Through the Noise in Marketing with Brian Honigman

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How to Adapt to Thrive for SaaS Companies with Michele Don Durbin

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Mission-Driven Content for Small Businesses with Melanie Deziel

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Rethinking Productivity with Sunsama Founder Ashutosh Priyadarshy

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How to Maximize Influencer Marketing with Neal Schaffer

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Building a B2B Audience and Media Company with Dave Gerhardt (DGMG)

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How to Write Copy that Resonates with Liz Willits

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How To Tell a Story Worth Hearing with Matthew Dicks

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Build a Content Playground, Not a Funnel with Ashley Faus (Atlassian)

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Why Social Proof is the Key to Every Type of Marketing with Andy Crestodina

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How to Produce Top of the Line Content with Brad Smith

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How to Freelance Like a Pro with Brian Speronello

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Kitchen Side: How To Build an Audience with Content Marketing

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Re-Building Trust in Your Brand with Margot Bloomstein

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Ross Simmonds on Life Lessons from Nanna and Building a Content Distribution Engine

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How SparkToro Approaches Growth & Productivity (Rand Fishkin)

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How to Build a Content Engine & Media Company with Ronnie Higgins (Hopin)

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How to Build an Audience-Driven Marketing Machine with Emily Marsh (Iconosquare)

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Kitchen Side: Our Founders' Career Backgrounds, Greatest Accomplishments, and Biggest Regrets

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Link-Building Tactics That Work, and more with Jeremy Moser (uSERP)

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Content Operations at Massive Scale with Natasha Nel (HackerNoon)

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Successful Go-To-Market Strategies with Alfie Marsh (Spendesk)

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In-Person, Virtual, & Hybrid Events with Rebecca Miller (Splash)

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Building High Quality Events with Vasil Azarov (Growth Blazers)

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SEO as a Distribution Channel, and more with Mischa Vaughn (Webflow)

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Tactical Tips to Move the Needle in SaaS Copywriting with Josh Garofalo (Sway Copy)

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Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

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Why Content Marketing Should Sell... and More Lessons with Tyler Hakes (Optimist)

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How To Increase your Experimentation Wins with Andrew Anderson (ZenBusiness)

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How To Fuel Your Content Machine with Kevin Indig (Shopify)

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Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

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040: From Journalism to Marketing and Keeping the Human Element in Mind with Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper)

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039: Impactful Case Studies with Emma Siemasko (Stories By Us)

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038: Evolve Your SEO and Content Marketing with Ross Hudgens

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037: Kitchen Side: What Should a Content Marketer Be Goaled On?

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036: Content Experimentation & Why a Formal Education is Not Required with Shanelle Mullin (Experimentation & Analysis Lead, Shopify)

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035: How to Create a Revenue-Generating Blog with Ryan Robinson

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034: Building a Thriving Career as a Wordsmith with Juliana Casale (Content Strategist at Wave)

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033: Growth Mentorship & Avoiding Burnout with Dani Hart

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032: Mastering Email Conversion & Strategy with Samar Owais

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031: The Fundamentals of Conversion Rate Optimization with Brian Massey (Co-Founder, Conversion Sciences)

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030: Kitchen Side: Is Your Blog a Publication or a Library?

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029: The Art & Science of Hacking Growth with Morgan Brown (VP of Growth, Shopify)

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028: Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

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027: Kitchen Side: Is Organic Traffic the Best Traffic?

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026: Honing Freelance Writing in a Noisy Market with Kaleigh Moore

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025: From Creative Contributor to Creative Catalyst with Camille Trent (Head of Content, Dooly)

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024: Community Driven Content with Sean Blanda (Director of Content, Crossbeam)

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023: How to Differentiate Content in a Crowded Space with Brooklin Nash

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#022: Buyer Personas Don’t Have to Suck! with Adrienne Barnes (Best Buyer Persona)

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#021: Creating vs Capturing Demand and Category Creation with Chris Schreiber

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#020: Spark Creativity and Generate Memorable Content with Ryan Law (Director of Marketing at Animalz)

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#019: Peak Performing, High-Earning Freelance Writing with Michael Keenan (Co-Founder at Peak Freelance)

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#018: Kitchen Side: How to Talk to Your CMO About Content Marketing

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#017: Kitchen Side: How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

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#016: Leveling Up in Business and Marketing with Eric Siu (CEO of Clickflow)

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#015: Kitchen Side: Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

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#014: How to Build Systems for Content & SEO (+ Advanced Poker Tips) w/ Bernard Huang (Co-founder at Clearscope)

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#013: A Fireside Chat with Tim Soulo, CMO at Ahrefs

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#012: Email Marketing Advice from Ilona Abramova (VP Operations at AppSumo)

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#011: Kitchen Side: Finding, Vetting and Hiring Freelancers

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#010: Pursuing Excellence & Principles for Running 3 Businesses with Peep Laja

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#009: Building Communities, Teams and Companies through Marketing with Sabel Harris

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#008: Marrying High Caliber Content with a Demanding Publishing Cadence with Tracey Wallace

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#007: Lessons in Risk, Game Theory, and Winning at Marketing with Bill King

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#006: Kitchen Side: How Top Content Creators Build Passionate Audiences

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#005: Kitchen Side: How To Be An Effective Content Marketing Strategist

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#004: Kitchen Side: How to Build a Content Editorial Calendar

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#003: Finding Your Creative Sweet Spot with David Kadavy

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#002: Kitchen Side: Behind The Long Game Podcast

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#001: Content Operations, Automation, and Storytelling with Tommy Walker