Bonus Episode: The 2023 Israeli-Hamas war: A Symptom of our era of Disorder?

On Saturday October the 7th the world awoke to the most horrific, chaotic, and game changing Arab-Israeli war in 50 years. But despite how tragic the news was, it wasn’t at all surprising. Internal divisions and partisan dysfunction inside previously functioning democracies (like Israel) have left previously secure and united societies, divided and open to their enemies. This has been an open invitation to those who wish to actively disorder global affairs.  In this bonus episode, Jason Pack and David Patrikarakos discuss how, in our era of disorder, conflicts in one part of the world create immediate disordering reactions elsewhere. They’ll also talk about David’s time in Gaza, Jason’s conversations with anti-Semitic cab drivers in Lebanon and the West Bank, and how the internet radicalizes reporting on this conflict. Jason and David disagree agreeably about whether Hamas has already won this war. Finally, they’ll try to suggest ways out of this conflict, as they try to Order the Disorder.  Twitter: @DisorderShow  Website:   https://natoandtheglobalenduringdisorder.com/    Producer: George McDonagh  Exec Producer: Neil Fearn    Show Notes Links  Subscribe to the Disorder Show Monthly Newsletter here   For depth on the historical context of the War: listen to Jason on Arthur Snell’s Behind the Lines here   Brett Stevens NYT Op-ed on potential solutions here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices