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Artificial intelligence is showing up in divorce cases at every stage, and most parents have no idea how to use it well or where it can quietly steer them wrong. In this episode, Krista Nash sits down with Jamie Pima, a former Morgan Stanley and Fidelity executive turned certified divorce financial analyst and founder of SecureSplit, who brings a rare combination of high-level financial expertise and firsthand experience with a difficult personal divorce. Jamie breaks down exactly how AI can serve as a research tool and co-pilot through the financial complexities of divorce, and where it becomes a liability. He and Krista also get into how parents can use AI to draft better co-parenting communications and build more thoughtful parenting plans. The tools exist. This episode is about learning to use them wisely. In this episode, you will hear: How AI is already reshaping divorce, from financial analysis to parenting plan drafts Why prompt quality determines whether AI helps or misleads, and how to write better ones The real risks of AI hallucinations in legal and financial contexts How parents can use AI to soften co-parenting communications before sending them What certified divorce financial analysts do that attorneys and AI cannot SecureSplit, a new platform built to give both professionals and consumers better financial tools for divorce How protecting children from conflict starts with the financial decisions parents make early Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com https://allegiantds.com/team/jamie-lima/ https://securesplit.com/ All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

For most divorcing parents, the handoff between homes is treated as a scheduling detail. Dr. Michael Saini, professor at the University of Toronto and one of the leading researchers in high-conflict family dynamics, has spent years studying what actually happens to children during those moments, and the findings are hard to ignore. Krista Nash welcomes Dr. Saini back to the Children First Family Law Podcast for a conversation about his latest research, which examined 20 years of court cases to understand how judges, attorneys, and families are handling what he calls "changeovers," and where they're falling short. Dr. Saini's research reveals that for many children, the transition between homes ranks among the most stressful parts of the entire separation experience, yet courts rarely address it in any meaningful detail. This episode offers a clear-eyed look at what children actually need before, during, and after each changeover, and why it deserves far more attention than it gets. In this episode, you will hear: Why the moment children move between homes is often the most stressful part of the divorce experience What 20 years of court cases reveal about how rarely judges address changeover planning in any meaningful detail The hidden emotional labor children carry before, during, and after every transition between homes How camera surveillance and litigation-driven behavior at exchanges affects children's long-term sense of safety and trust What children actually need in the 30 minutes before a changeover and the adjustment period after arriving at the next home Why school exchanges, police stations, and McDonald's parking lots fall short as default changeover locations How children's voices are largely left out of changeover planning, and what changes when they're finally asked   Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this solo episode of the Children First Family Law® podcast, Krista explores one of the most essential tools for helping children thrive after separation or divorce—a thoughtful, child-centered parenting plan. Drawing from years of experience as a family law attorney, mediator, and parenting coordinator, Krista explains how clarity, predictability, and flexibility can create emotional safety for children during family transitions. She breaks down how to design developmentally appropriate parenting schedules from infancy through adolescence and explains why focusing on stability rather than strict equality best supports a child’s well-being. Krista also covers shared decision-making, communication strategies, managing holidays and vacations, handling new relationships, and addressing common pitfalls like technology use and “right of first refusal” clauses. Throughout the episode, she emphasizes that clarity is love, predictability is safety, and structure is one of the greatest gifts parents can give their children. Krista closes the episode by previewing her upcoming 16-week Co-Parent Coaching Program, designed to help parents create peaceful, structured, and emotionally healthy co-parenting lives. This October episode is a roadmap for parents seeking to build a stable and cooperative foundation for their children, even amid the challenges of family restructuring. In this episode, you will hear: The core philosophy behind a peaceful, child-centered parenting plan How to structure parenting schedules for different age groups Ways to handle decision-making responsibilities without conflict Communication strategies that foster cooperation and reduce tension How to address holidays, vacations, and new relationships thoughtfully The importance of predictability, emotional safety, and flexibility Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Some of the most difficult family law cases aren't just high conflict — they're entrenched. In this episode of the Children First Family Law® Podcast, Krista Nash sits down with Dr. Marlene Bizub, a Colorado psychologist specializing in complex family systems therapy, to examine the cases that most therapists won't take and why that reluctance carries real consequences for children. Dr. Bizub brings years of experience working with families where parent-child estrangement has reached a critical level. She breaks down what this work actually requires: why every family member must be involved, why recovery is measured in months or years rather than sessions, and how labels like "alienation" and "narcissist" often cloud the picture rather than clarify it. This is a conversation every parent, attorney, and mental health professional in the family law space needs to hear. In this episode, you will hear: The difference between intentional parental alienation and protective behavior that sends the same message Why complex family systems therapy requires every family member's participation, not just the estranged parent and child How labeling a co-parent a narcissist or alienator often distorts the therapeutic process before it begins Why this work takes months or years, and what parents who expect a quick fix are missing The dangers of siloed individual therapy in high-conflict cases and what a systems-based approach does differently Why therapists avoid court involvement, and the real cost that reluctance creates for children How reunification cases can end in genuine recovery, even when parents arrive certain there's no way forward Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of Children First Family Law, Krista guides you through the intricacies of divorce using a child-centered approach. Krista shares her top ten considerations for those contemplating divorce, emphasizing the children's best interests. She highlights the importance of identifying subtle forms of abuse, such as coercive control, and discusses the potential for reconciliation in non-abusive relationships. She also underscores the value of seeking expert guidance and the value of contemplating legal separation as a potentially better first step as an alternative to divorce. Krista addresses the challenges of co-parenting and financial management post-divorce. She explains how the legal system prioritizes the child's best interests in parenting time and decision-making, discussing the impact of shared parenting responsibilities and common conflicts. She delves into income imputation complexities in child support and spousal maintenance cases and explores changes in parenting dynamics when parents previously less involved in primary care seek more active roles. She further examines the impact of divorce on relationships and future planning, considering the complexities of forming new relationships and relocation challenges. Krista highlights the importance of assembling a reliable team of professionals and explores different approaches to handling divorce, such as hiring attorneys, negotiating amicable agreements directly, and mediating.   This episode is a must-listen for a comprehensive guide to navigating divorce with the children's best interests in mind. In this episode, you will hear: Importance of a child-centered approach when considering divorce, emphasizing hiring professionals who prioritize children's needs Identifying and addressing various forms of abuse, such as coercive control, and exploring legal separation as an alternative to divorce Navigating co-parenting and financial management challenges post-divorce, especially for primary caregivers adjusting to shared parenting time and decision-making Understanding the complexities of income imputation in child support and spousal maintenance and the dynamics of previously uninvolved parents seeking active roles Impact of divorce on broader relationships, including friends, family, and new relationships, along with the challenges of potential relocations Building a support team of legal and emotional resources to guide through the divorce process Emphasizing the well-being of children in family law and discussing best-interest attorney roles and future series on domestic violence Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Allen Levy, master's level psychologist and shared parenting educator, returns to the Children First Family Law Podcast for a conversation that goes well beyond the courtroom. Krista picks up where their last episode left off — exploring what it really takes for co-parents to function as professional colleagues, even when the relationship that brought them together has ended. Al introduces his Affirmative Arts framework: a practical philosophy built around affirmative communication, emotional self-management, and the discipline of focusing on what you will do rather than what you can't, won't, or don't. The conversation covers dangerous words that quietly ignite conflict — including "should have," "why," and even "best interest" — and how small shifts in language can change everything. Al also shares details on his upcoming shared parenting curriculum, designed to give parents, attorneys, and mental health professionals a concrete, affordable tool for doing the job of co-parenting right. In this episode, you will hear: The "job share" model of co-parenting and what it requires post-separation Al's Affirmative Arts framework: a practical philosophy for communication and agency Dangerous words that trigger conflict, including "should have," "why," "try," and "best interest" The difference between output and outcome, and why focusing on what you control matters Assertive communication as a boundary tool — stating what you will do, not what they should do How the shared parenting curriculum helps attorneys manage high-conflict clients and build stronger cases Al's upcoming online course — self-paced and affordable for parents, attorneys, and mental health professionals Resources from this Episode Online course by Al Levy: https://defusedivorce.com/programs?program=1746038048335x737946041885731300 Affirmative Arts -- https://affirmativearts.com/ www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law Podcast, Krista Nash continues her conversation with Dr. Ben Garber, exploring how structure — in all its forms — serves as a foundation for children's emotional health during and after divorce. From consistent bedtimes to bulletproof parenting plans, Dr. Garber makes the case that structure isn't about control — it's about reducing anxiety and helping children feel safe in an uncertain world. Dr. Garber draws on more than 40 years of experience to address parents, co-parents, and family law professionals alike, using the framework of Russian nesting dolls to show how structure operates at every level of a family system. He also tackles the guilt-driven impulse to relax the rules during divorce — and why that instinct, however well-meaning, often backfires. In this episode, you will hear: Why structure reduces anxiety in children during and after divorce The guilt trap — and why relaxing rules during divorce often backfires How cooperative co-parents can operate with more flexibility, and why high-conflict parents need more rigid, court-imposed structure The "nesting doll" framework — how structure applies at every level, from individual self-care to the courtroom Self-care as structure — and why burned-out parents ultimately harm their kids What family law professionals and judges can do to build better outcomes through intentional structure Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Structure might not sound like the most exciting topic in family law, but it might be one of the most important. In this first part of a two-part conversation, Dr. Ben Garber, internationally recognized psychologist, prolific author, and one of the leading voices in child-centered family law, breaks down how clear boundaries, defined roles, consistent routines, and limits with associated consequences work together to reduce anxiety for children and parents navigating separation and divorce. The more conflict exists between co-parents, the more essential structure becomes to keep kids truly out of the middle. Dr. Garber also draws on compelling research from medicine, dentistry, and public health to explain why advance orientation — knowing what to expect before entering any process — leads to better, faster, and more equitable outcomes for families in the court system. This is a conversation that has the potential to shift everything about how you approach parenting after separation. In this episode, you will hear: The four "flavors" of structure and how each one reduces anxiety for children and parents Why high-conflict co-parenting demands clearer boundaries than cooperative co-parenting The difference between punishment and consequences, and why positive reinforcement wins How research from medicine and public health proves advance orientation improves outcomes Why informed consent alone isn't enough — families deserve a true roadmap into the legal process The critical distinction between advance orientation and unethical coaching in family law How reducing parental anxiety leads to faster settlements, lower costs, and a more equitable court system Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com Mending Fences: A Collaborative, Cognitive-Behavioral Reunification Protocol Serving the Best Interests of the Post-Divorce, Polarized Child: https://a.co/d/hfKNEl3 Holding Tight-Letting Go: Raising Healthy Kids in AnxiousTimes: https://a.co/d/5XXmYBs The Family Law Professional's Field Guide to High-Conflict Litigation: Dynamics, Not Diagnoses: https://a.co/d/elmm71x Keeping Kids Out of the Middle: Child-Centered Parenting in the Midst of Conflict, Separation, and Divorce: https://a.co/d/4OBxU6m The Healthy Parent's ABC's: Healthy Parenting Made Clear and Easy-to-Read: https://a.co/d/hMKHhXP Taming the Beast Within: Managing Anger in Ourselves and Our Children Through Divorce (Healthy Parenting): https://a.co/d/j6irF4D The Roadmap to the Parenting Plan Worksheet: Putting Parenting Priorities in the Context of Research, Theory and Case Law: https://a.co/d/fbYB6PG Caught in the Middle: A Letter to My Divorced Parents (Healthy Parenting, 2): https://a.co/d/3g3p2pv Developmental Psychology for Family Law Professionals: Theory, Application and the Best Interests of the Child: https://a.co/d/6vzqPgS Twisted Allies: https://a.co/d/2DKVTbg Coupon Code for his Defuse Divorce program for April and May 2026: DEFUSEme2026 All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Parents often want their children’s voices to be heard during the divorce process. However, how that happens can vary greatly depending on the family’s situation. On this episode of Children First Family Law, Krista explains the “best interests” standard in Colorado and what families can expect regarding their child’s voice being heard in court. She outlines the nine factors Colorado uses to determine parenting time allocation, including considerations of factors used in allocating decision-making in a no-fault divorce state. Krista shares specific situations, such as alcohol or drug abuse or domestic violence, that can elevate a child’s voice in these scenarios, the ideal scenario for parenting time versus what often occurs, and ways a therapist can be utilized in a divorce case. She defines the roles of Child and Family Investigators (CFIs) and Parental Responsibilities Evaluators (PREs), as well as the drawbacks of involving either of them in a case. Finally, Krista explains how you can benefit from a child’s best interests attorney (Child’s Legal Representative or “CLR”) to attempt to curate solutions alongside parents and professionals involved in your case while representing the best interests of the child as an attorney advocate who obtains and considers the child’s wishes Divorce can be messy and traumatic for everyone involved. Keeping your child’s best interests at the forefront and hiring qualified professionals can make the process smoother, making it more manageable for everyone. In this episode, you will hear: The use of the “best interests” standard in Colorado Ensuring a child’s voice is heard in the court while avoiding an adversarial approach to the other parent Colorado’s implementation of nine factors to determine parenting time allocation, including: Parents’ wishes Child’s wishes The relationship between the child and parents, siblings, and any other person who significantly affects the child's best interests The child’s adjustment to home, school, and community The mental and physical health of everyone involved The parties’ ability to encourage the sharing of love, affection, and contact between the child and the other parent Whether the parties’ past involvement shows a system of values, time commitment, and mutual support How far apart the parties live The ability of each party to place the needs of the child ahead of their own needs How no-fault divorce impacts considerations of parenting time and decision-making Alcohol abuse, drug abuse, and domestic violence, and Colorado’s statute that indicates a child’s voice should have strong consideration in these situations The ideal scenario for parenting time versus what often occurs A movement in Colorado toward children over 12 years old to become more actively involved in court proceedings and hearings in the dependency and neglect courts but not so much in domestic/divorce courts Ways a therapist can be used in court proceedings Bringing in witnesses to testify to what’s best for the child The role of Child and Family Investigators (CFIs) in Colorado, their requirements, their cost, and how they can impact the parenting dynamic The role of Parental Responsibilities Evaluators (PREs), who can do everything a CFI can, plus do deeper analysis including psychological testing of parents The downsides of bringing in CFIs and PREs The benefits of a child's best interest attorney or Child Legal Representative (CLR), who they represent, the requirements they must meet, what they can and cannot do, and what they cost A CLR’s ability to curate the right people to work with the parties involved in the case When you should pursue a child advocate and why you shouldn’t wait too long Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this moving episode of the Children First Family Law Podcast, Krista welcomes acclaimed documentary filmmaker Ellen Bruno, the creator behind the powerful films “Split: The Early Years” and “Split Up: The Teen Years.” These documentaries feature a cast of real children who had experienced divorce of their parents, with purely their voices and artwork, no experts, no therapists, no adults – just the kids. Split featured the kids when young; Split Up then followed up with the same kids 10 years later, reflecting on how divorce had impacted them as they emerged into late teens and young adulthood. The films give incredibly powerful insight every parent going through family law dynamics should watch, as well as any professional in the family law arena. The film is raw, honest, and deeply impactful.  In her conversation with Krista, Ellen shares the personal journey that inspired her to create Split, which began after her own divorce when she heard her own child and others in carpools from school discussing issues of divorce and the lightbulb that went off in her head that she could use her filmmaking to give voice to the voiceless and shine a light on the impact of divorce on children  She had already spent much of her career in humanitarian work and international filmmaking attempting to give voice to many different people groups, with films focusing on issues at the forefront of human rights.  Ellen began her relief efforts in remote Mayan villages in Tabasco, Mexico. She worked in refugee camps on the Thai-Cambodian border with the International Rescue Committee, in Vietnamese boat camps with The Refugee Section of the American Embassy in Thailand, and as director of the Cambodian Women's Project for the American Friends Service Committee. With a masters degree in documentary film from Stanford University, she is a recipient of Guggenheim and Rockefeller Fellowships, a Goldie Award for Outstanding Artist, an Alpert Award for the Arts,an Anonymous Was A Woman Award for the Arts, a Shenkin Fellowship from Yale University School of Art, and was an Artist-in- Residence at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, among many other accomplishments. Krista and Ellen explore recurring themes from both Split films, including identity shifts, the emotional cost of “two homes,” and the unspoken pressure children feel to take care of their parents. They also highlight how parents, legal professionals, and mental health practitioners can utilize the films to gain a deeper understanding of the child’s perspective—and why it matters so much. Ellen shares, too, the potential for another film following up yet again with these now-adult kids and/or their parents, a possibility Krista encourages. This conversation is a true gem for the podcast and a must-listen for divorcing parents, co-parents, attorneys, and anyone who works with families. It’s a powerful reminder that small choices can create lasting change and that truly listening to children can transform our approach to divorce. In this episode, you will hear: The emotional cost of silence and shame in divorce Why kids need space to share their experiences without adult interference The impact of small co-parenting gestures, like family photos or shared events How the Split films help parents and professionals re-center on children A reminder that divorce doesn’t end in six months—it’s a lifelong transition Resources from this Episode To purchase the “Split” films: https://www.splitfilm.org/family-purchase-options/ https://www.splitfilm.org/ Contact Ellen Bruno: [email protected] www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode, Krista speaks directly to parents who are lying awake at night asking the same question: Is this going to ruin my kids? Drawing from decades of experience as an attorney, mediator, parenting coordinator, and child advocate, Krista unpacks a hard truth—divorce itself does not automatically damage children, but chronic conflict and poor co-parenting absolutely can. She walks through ten practical, immediately usable strategies to lower tension and protect a child’s emotional safety. Krista shares real stories from her work with families, highlighting how tone, structure, exchanges, and emotional regulation shape a child’s long-term wellbeing. Divorce handled with maturity and intention can still raise secure, emotionally healthy children—and that choice starts with the adults. In this episode, you will hear: Why divorce itself does not automatically damage children but chronic conflict does Ten practical strategies to reduce co parenting tension and protect emotional safety Keeping children out of the middle and avoiding loyalty binds Managing tone, messaging, and post visit interrogations Creating structure and predictable routines to lower anxiety Handling exchanges calmly to reduce stress and emotional fallout Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Co-parents often find themselves at a stalemate with one parent distrustful of the other. Trust can be rebuilt, and returning guest Dr. Michael Saini has some tips on how to do it. On today’s episode of Children First Family Law, Krista welcomes back Dr. Saini, a Toronto-based renowned psychologist who has authored more than 200 publications, including book chapters, government reports, systematic reviews, and a vast number of peer-reviewed journal articles highlighting research in the area of family law and its impact on children. Dr. Saini is a passionate advocate for children’s rights. Krista and Dr. Saini begin their conversation by explaining the importance of establishing boundaries around trust and repairing trust violations in the context of a divorce situation. Dr. Saini outlines the research on trust as the number one dynamic for co-parenting success, emphasizing the importance of accepting who your co-parent is and building trust despite any disputes you may have with them. He shares why coming to terms with “good enough” parenting can be helpful, how the erosion of trust can lead to additional conflicts as co-parents, and why the conflict is worse for your kids than getting your way in the fight you’re having with your co-parent. You’ll hear Dr. Saini’s method of using mini goals to rebuild trust with your co-parent, the foundation childhood creates for trusting or distrusting in future relationships, the importance of exposing kids to new romantic partners carefully, and learning to become comfortable with your new roles post-divorce. Finally, Krista and Dr. Saini explain when trust-building models aren’t appropriate and how to figure out what each parent is willing to do to demonstrate their trustworthiness. Trust is a complex and significant topic in divorce, and Dr. Michael Saini’s tips can help you rebuild trust with your co-parent and foster a healthy relationship for your children, thereby breaking intergenerational conflict tendencies. In this episode, you will hear: Building boundaries around trust and repairing trust violations Research about trust being the number one dynamic for co-parenting success Dr. Michael Saini’s take on viewing trust as a bank account with a positive or negative balance based on experiences The importance of coming to a place of acceptance of your co-parent, thinking beyond the dispute, and building trust “Good enough” parenting and not placing your standards on the other parent Why emotional processing is like an iceberg, because we only see a small portion of it How erosion of trust leads to additional conflict in co-parenting For your kids, the impact of the conflict is far more harmful than who 'wins' the argument. Anger and fear as secondary emotions to fear Using mini goals to rebuild trust Childhood is the foundation for trusting or distrusting future relationships When conflict is modeled poorly over generations,kids can repeat the same unhealthy patterns rather than learning how to resolve them Exposing kids to new romantic partners very carefully Boundary ambiguity post-divorce and becoming comfortable with new roles When the trust-building models are not appropriate, especially considering the dynamics of violence What each parent is willing to do to demonstrate trustworthiness Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com Dickie 2015 Trust and Conflict Resolution - http://childrenfirstfamilylaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Dickie-2015-Trust-and-Conflict-Resolution.pdf Saini 2025 Trust in AFCC CA Handouts2PP - http://childrenfirstfamilylaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Saini-2025-Trust-in-AFCC-CA-Handouts2PP.pdf All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law Podcast, Krista is joined by Bill Eddy, co-founder of the High Conflict Institute and author of BIFF for Co-Parent Communication. They dive into one of the biggest challenges in family law cases: how parents communicate during conflict. Whether tensions show up around parenting time and decision making, medical issues, school events, or simple schedule changes, the way we respond can either calm the situation—or inflame it. Bill walks through the BIFF method—Brief, Informative, Friendly, and Firm—and explains why managing your own communication is often the fastest way to reduce conflict. He also explores why some parents get stuck in anger and how that spills over onto children. If you want practical tools to protect your kids and bring more stability to co-parent communication, this conversation is for you. In this episode, you will hear: What BIFF means and why Brief Informative Friendly Firm responses reduce conflict How to respond to hostile emails without escalating parenting time and decision making disputes The 10-question checklist before hitting send Turning an inflammatory message into a focused BIFF response Why unmanaged anger and blame keep parents stuck in high conflict How one parent changing their communication can shift the dynamic Practical tools from the High Conflict Institute for calmer co-parent exchanges Resources from this Episode Websites: https://www.conflictinfluencer.com/co-parenting https://www.highconflictinstitute.com/ Many BIFF books: Coparent communication – https://www.amazon.com/BIFF-Co-Parent-Communication-Difficult-Conflict/dp/1950057100/ref=sr_1_3?crid=QKXMIO5UFGIN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.d-iPiyrt8sAIpAtmKgrvqxqasiVMj2Y1668V1sdm9p9RIRwALrUb2WI2HrCFeWl5O0SYll50CInBtJt_tm0cXApce2CyUYZgQUiPhPZkUrFDg5Mzir9v0Ie5s_WMz5BMsMrWB4FhgxiDhZu41VDYx2MeMu7xYT41D6g-v8mii_S_fCS66goO4BGFK_ma2rUnd2gm4_f8xIoCe0V-3d4ytpaE4n1HxUyhqYssMM0DI1U.ZtNwku4cjDzPxx-yIYT8yi6THUImqBZ4qGOyVOCJ_7E&dib_tag=se&keywords=BIFF+books&qid=1770684270&sprefix=biff+boo%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-3 High conflict personality responses – https://www.amazon.com/BIFF-Responses-High-Conflict-Personal-Meltdowns/dp/1936268728/ref=sr_1_2?crid=QKXMIO5UFGIN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.d-iPiyrt8sAIpAtmKgrvqxqasiVMj2Y1668V1sdm9p9RIRwALrUb2WI2HrCFeWl5O0SYll50CInBtJt_tm0cXApce2CyUYZgQUiPhPZkUrFDg5Mzir9v0Ie5s_WMz5BMsMrWB4FhgxiDhZu41VDYx2MeMu7xYT41D6g-v8mii_S_fCS66goO4BGFK_ma2rUnd2gm4_f8xIoCe0V-3d4ytpaE4n1HxUyhqYssMM0DI1U.ZtNwku4cjDzPxx-yIYT8yi6THUImqBZ4qGOyVOCJ_7E&dib_tag=se&keywords=BIFF+books&qid=1770684270&sprefix=biff+boo%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-2 Work – https://www.amazon.com/BIFF-Work-Difficult-Workplace-Communication/dp/1950057127/ref=sr_1_4?crid=QKXMIO5UFGIN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.d-iPiyrt8sAIpAtmKgrvqxqasiVMj2Y1668V1sdm9p9RIRwALrUb2WI2HrCFeWl5O0SYll50CInBtJt_tm0cXApce2CyUYZgQUiPhPZkUrFDg5Mzir9v0Ie5s_WMz5BMsMrWB4FhgxiDhZu41VDYx2MeMu7xYT41D6g-v8mii_S_fCS66goO4BGFK_ma2rUnd2gm4_f8xIoCe0V-3d4ytpaE4n1HxUyhqYssMM0DI1U.ZtNwku4cjDzPxx-yIYT8yi6THUImqBZ4qGOyVOCJ_7E&dib_tag=se&keywords=BIFF+books&qid=1770684270&sprefix=biff+boo%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-4 Lawyers & Law Firms: https://www.amazon.com/BIFF-Lawyers-Law-Offices-Communication/dp/1950057399/ref=sr_1_6?crid=QKXMIO5UFGIN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.d-iPiyrt8sAIpAtmKgrvqxqasiVMj2Y1668V1sdm9p9RIRwALrUb2WI2HrCFeWl5O0SYll50CInBtJt_tm0cXApce2CyUYZgQUiPhPZkUrFDg5Mzir9v0Ie5s_WMz5BMsMrWB4FhgxiDhZu41VDYx2MeMu7xYT41D6g-v8mii_S_fCS66goO4BGFK_ma2rUnd2gm4_f8xIoCe0V-3d4ytpaE4n1HxUyhqYssMM0DI1U.ZtNwku4cjDzPxx-yIYT8yi6THUImqBZ4qGOyVOCJ_7E&dib_tag=se&keywords=BIFF+books&qid=1770684270&sprefix=biff+boo%2Caps%2C214&sr=8-6 www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

It’s no secret that separations and divorces can be stressful, costly, and emotionally exhausting, and finding a solution that works for both parties involved and the children can feel impossible. On this episode of Children First Family Law, Krista outlines the options available to those seeking a divorce or separation, particularly in Colorado. The choices individuals make in this situation have implications, and Krista shares the potential pitfalls and considerations of each one. These options include handling the separation or divorce without an attorney, hiring an attorney (or two–one for each party), coaching services, mediation, and arbitration. She explains each one’s advantages and disadvantages. Krista offers a unique final solution she developed called an Amicable Uncontested Divorce Solution, in which she works with both co-parents to create customized solutions for their particular scenario. Finally, Krista shares the importance of preserving the co-parenting dynamic to reduce trauma for the involved children. She reveals the 13 steps she uses to determine if a potential client is a good candidate for this solution. There is a path to a more peaceful separation of co-parents than attorneys on both sides ready for war. Krista’s Amicable Uncontested Divorce Solutions offer the answer you’ve been searching for. In this episode, you will hear: The implications of the choices the involved parties make during a divorce or legal separation Handling a separation or divorce in Colorado without an attorney and potential pitfalls and considerations Hiring an attorney to handle your case, what to be aware of as you research who to hire, and when you can use one attorney versus two The importance of prioritizing children during separation—and why many attorneys fail to do so Investing in a coaching service and key factors to consider when evaluating your options Krista’s tips for evaluating a mediator to handle a divorce or separation The pitfalls of mediation and how it can derail a case. Arbitration’s advantages and disadvantages as an option for handling a divorce or separation Amicable, Uncontested Divorce Solutions at Children First Family Law tailors benefits for both co-parents seeking customized resolutions. Minimizing trauma for children while preserving a healthy co-parenting dynamic. Krista’s 13-step approach to achieving an amicable, uncontested divorce.   Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this solo episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista, a Colorado-based family law attorney and child advocate, breaks down her structured approach to serving as a Child’s Legal Representative (CLR) in high-conflict divorce and custody cases across the state. Krista shares her 11-step process for advocating on behalf of children during some of the most complex and emotionally charged family law matters. Drawing on her experience practicing throughout Denver, Boulder, Fort Collins, and Colorado Springs, she guides listeners through the process of how CLRs are appointed, their interactions with families, and how they contribute to shaping child-centered solutions both inside and outside the courtroom. From initial appointments and home visits to therapeutic collaboration and final court engagement, Krista explains how an active, negotiation-based model empowers children to have a voice while protecting their well-being. She also compares the CLR role to other evaluative processes used in Colorado family courts, including CFIs and PREs, highlighting the benefits of real-time engagement and ongoing problem-solving. For parents, attorneys, and professionals working in Colorado family law, this episode offers a clear and practical guide to what it means to truly represent the best interests of the child, with a process that’s informed, intentional, and deeply rooted in trauma-aware advocacy. In this episode, you will hear:   How courts appoint a Child’s Legal Representative (CLR) in Colorado Why earlier CLR involvement can lead to better outcomes for families A detailed look at Krista’s 11-step CLR process, from start to finish The value of active negotiation over passive observation in high-conflict parenting cases The difference between a CLR and roles like CFIs or parenting evaluators Strategies to support children’s voices in parenting time disputes How Colorado-specific forms (JDF 1319/1320) initiate the CLR appointment process   Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Hiring the right attorney in a divorce case involving children can make or break your case. If you hire the wrong one, they could be a big problem. In this replay episode of Children First Family Law, Krista offers the 10 dos and don’ts of hiring a divorce attorney. A good attorney should be a peacemaker, not a gladiator, which can foster the destruction of children’s well-being, parents, and individual parties. Toxicity generally isn’t necessary, even in potentially adversarial cases. Finding amicable solutions for children's best interests is at the heart of this episode. Using Krista’s tips for finding a good divorce attorney, you could avoid a litigious, expensive, and destructive road. In this episode, you will hear: The importance of hiring an attorney who is empathetic, warm, likable, and ethical Krista’s tips for testing the accessibility and responsiveness of an attorney and their team Ensuring your attorney will be clear and transparent about each step of the process as well as costs How hiring someone who simplifies the process can save you a lot of money Why humility is a valuable trait in an attorney Reputability and its importance in the law community and red flags to consider The value of an informed individual who is pursuing growth of knowledge and experience The calming effect of a peacemaker in your corner What a child-focused attorney can do for you versus one who isn’t Problem-solving and finding the best solution for all involved parties Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of Children First Family Law®️, Krista sits down with Liberty, a 21-year-old who grew up navigating her parents’ divorce in a way many families hope for but rarely see. Liberty shares what it felt like to be told about the divorce as a sixth grader, how her parents’ intentional co-parenting kept her out of the middle, and why clear structure and communication mattered more than she realized at the time. Liberty reflects on growing up in two homes without conflict, watching her parents show up together for milestones, and later welcoming stepparents and stepsiblings into her life. Her story offers a rare, honest look at how divorce can reshape a family without breaking it. This conversation is a powerful reminder that when adults truly put children first, kids can grow up feeling secure, supported, and hopeful. In this episode, you will hear: Being told about divorce together and why that moment mattered Growing up without being put in the middle of parental conflict How structure and predictable parenting schedules created stability Parents communicating directly instead of through their child Navigating new partners and blended families without pressure The difference between a “broken” home and a restructured one How healthy co-parenting shaped long-term trust and relationships   Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this solo episode of Children First Family Law®️, Krista shares 10 practical resolutions for divorced and separated parents to make the new year—or any time of year—supportive for their children. Recognizing that most parents genuinely want the best for their kids but often feel overwhelmed, hurt, or reactive, Krista emphasizes that children feel the effects of parental conflict even when no words are spoken. These resolutions are not about perfection. They are about intentional choices that prioritize children’s emotional well-being. Krista walks through each resolution, offering concrete examples and strategies that parents can realistically implement. From stopping negative talk about the co-parent to creating calmer transitions, supporting consistency across households, and practicing flexibility, each resolution is designed to empower parents to show up differently for their kids. She also stresses the importance of processing personal emotional pain, seeking support through therapy or co-parenting classes, and modeling accountability through apologies and repair when mistakes happen. By committing to even one resolution, parents can create meaningful ripple effects that positively shape their children’s experiences, emotional security, and development, proving that small, intentional actions often matter more than sweeping changes. In this episode, you will hear: Stop speaking negatively about your co-parent and model emotional regulation Keep children out of adult conflicts and communication loops Pause before responding to reduce reactive conflict Support your child’s relationship with the other parent Make transitions calmer and more predictable Prioritize your own emotional health and seek support if needed Aim for consistency in routines, school expectations, and household rules Apologize and repair when mistakes happen Practice flexibility and prioritize what serves your child best Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Divorce often pushes parents into survival mode. Legal strategy and emotional overwhelm take center stage, while children absorb the fallout quietly and deeply. In this episode of the Children First Family Law®️ podcast, Krista explores a powerful but often misunderstood resource that helps parents navigate divorce more intentionally: divorce coaching. Krista sits down with Tracy Callahan, co-founder of the Divorce Coaches Academy, certified divorce coach, and family mediator licensed in Florida and New York. Tracy brings decades of experience in alternative dispute resolution and a deeply child-centered lens shaped by both professional practice and personal parenting experience. Krista and Tracy unpack what divorce coaching actually is and, just as importantly, what it is not. The conversation reframes divorce coaching as a future-focused, action-oriented form of dispute resolution rather than therapy or advocacy warfare. Tracy explains how divorce coaching helps parents regulate emotions, understand conflict dynamics, and develop communication skills that reduce escalation and protect children from being caught in the middle. Rather than reliving the past, divorce coaching emphasizes intentional decision-making, personal accountability, and preparing parents to participate more effectively in mediation, settlement discussions, and co-parenting. Krista and Tracy also address common misconceptions, including the belief that divorce coaches exist to help parents “fight harder.” In reality, the work centers on minimizing emotional and financial damage, supporting conversations that matter, and helping parents shift from positional thinking to child-focused problem solving. They highlight how unmanaged conflict—not divorce itself—creates lasting harm for children, often with generational consequences. Tracy shares insight into how divorce coaching complements legal representation, saves time and money, and helps parents stop using attorneys and courts as emotional outlets. The episode offers clarity for parents, professionals, and anyone working in family law who wants better outcomes for children navigating two homes. In this episode, you will hear: Divorce coaching as a child-centered dispute resolution tool Clear distinctions between divorce coaching, therapy, and legal advocacy The impact of unresolved parental conflict on children Emotional regulation as a foundation for effective co-parenting Future-focused decision-making during divorce Support divorce coaching provides in mediation and legal processes Shifting away from win–lose thinking toward family stability Resources from this Episode www.divorcecoachesacademy.com www.mediating-matters.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

The holidays can bring joy, excitement, and meaningful traditions, but for separated and divorced families, they can also amplify stress, conflict, and emotional overload. In this episode of the Children First Family Law®️ podcast, Krista explores how parents can navigate holiday schedules, shifting expectations, new traditions, and blended-family dynamics in a way that truly protects children’s emotional well-being. Dr. Marlene Bizub draws on nearly three decades of working with court-involved families to unpack why the season feels so intense and what parents can do differently to create calmer, healthier holidays. Dr. Bizub and Krista talk through the issues that emerge every December, from split-day disasters to extended-family tensions, gift-giving challenges, travel disruptions, and the grief children often feel beneath the surface. Dr. Bizub offers practical strategies parents can act on right now, along with long-term guidance on flexibility, communication, and taking the high road. Whether you’re newly separated or years into co-parenting, this episode provides grounded, child-centered guidance for navigating the holidays more peacefully. Dr. Marlene Bizub, a longtime psychologist working with court-involved families, shares her expertise on creating healthy traditions, supporting children through grief, and setting realistic expectations during the holidays. She highlights what children genuinely need, how parents can avoid emotional pitfalls, and why kindness creates lasting goodwill. This episode reminds parents that even small changes in approach can transform the holidays for their children and for themselves. In this episode, you will hear: Emotional pressures that intensify holidays for co-parents The shift from rigid expectations to child-centered planning Why avoiding split-day celebrations smooths the season for kids Fresh ideas for building new, meaningful traditions Approaches that help blended families adjust at their own pace Thoughts on birthdays, gift-giving, and extended-family involvement Flexibility strategies for travel delays, illness, and disrupted plans How generosity and cooperation create long-term goodwill Nonverbal communication patterns that shape a child’s experience Ways parents can find support and care for themselves during the holidays Resources from this Episode www.amazon.com/Contentious-Custody-Really-Interest-Children/dp/1941870724 open.spotify.com/show/4LJ9Ey2LemBeXfkh4wNauv www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law®️ podcast, Krista breaks down the leading reasons parents lose custody or experience restrictions on parenting time in Colorado. Drawing on her work as a child advocate and family law attorney, Krista explains how judges evaluate safety, stability, mental health, and co-parenting behaviors when deciding on parental responsibilities. She also reminds listeners that “losing custody” in Colorado rarely means a permanent loss of parental rights. Instead, it typically reflects temporary limits tied to a child’s best interests. Krista walks through the three most common categories that lead courts to restrict parenting time—safety concerns, parental unfitness or instability, and damaging co-parenting behavior. She illustrates each category with case patterns she has seen repeatedly in child advocacy work, including emotional abuse, unmanaged mental health issues, and behavior that undermines the child’s relationship with the other parent. She emphasizes that Colorado courts prioritize the child’s emotional and physical safety above all else, and that parents who take proactive steps, such as treatment, stable routines, and appropriate communication, can protect or rebuild their parenting time. For parents, professionals, and supporters, this episode serves as a clear and practical guide to navigating Colorado custody cases while centering children’s well-being. In this episode, you will hear: Safety issues that lead judges to restrict parenting time Behaviors that courts view as instability or parental unfitness Patterns of harmful co-parenting that damage custody outcomes Practical steps parents can take to protect and rebuild time with their children Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law® podcast, Krista opens the first installment of a recurring series on divorce and money, an area she rarely tackles but one that powerfully shapes children’s lives. To launch the series, she welcomes Colorado-based mortgage and divorce finance expert Todd Huetner, known nationally as the “divorce CFO.” With more than two decades of experience in lending, divorce finance, and collaborative family law, Todd guides families and professionals through the financial realities of housing decisions during separation and divorce. Krista frames the conversation around a simple truth: housing stability profoundly influences children’s well-being. Whether parents keep the home, sell it, or relocate, financial planning directly affects where children sleep, how often they move, and whether parents can sustainably maintain two households. Todd explains that families often wait too long to explore housing options, which can limit choices, increase stress, and lead to preventable long-term consequences. Beginning early gives parents time to identify credit issues, gather documentation, understand real options, and reduce the fear that comes from not knowing what lies ahead. Todd breaks down five common types of income that affect the ability to assume or refinance a mortgage in divorce: earned income, retirement/investment income, court-ordered support, co-signers, and creative trust structures. He explains how temporary maintenance, even at a very low amount, can start critical qualification timelines. He also addresses widespread misconceptions, such as the belief that a loan cannot be assumed, taking advice from lenders who provide incomplete information, and assuming a disadvantaged spouse cannot qualify for a mortgage. Many families unknowingly leave life-changing opportunities on the table. Krista and Todd also discuss the real impact of relocation. When a parent cannot afford to remain in a community, the resulting move can disrupt children’s support systems, educational stability, and relationship with the other parent. Todd notes that short-term strategies, like staying in the home for a limited period, delaying a move, or restructuring assets creatively, can preserve options while reducing the likelihood of multiple relocations. In the second half of the conversation, Todd turns to professionals—attorneys, mediators, and mental health experts—who often unintentionally limit their clients’ options by relying on assumptions or failing to understand how mortgage underwriting works. He emphasizes the importance of early consultation, correct terminology, precise drafting in separation agreements, and asking the right questions rather than the most obvious ones. A small oversight can cost a family tens of thousands of dollars or eliminate the possibility of homeownership entirely. This episode gives parents and professionals a roadmap to approaching financial and housing decisions with clarity, creativity, and an eye toward children’s long-term stability. In this episode, you will hear: Early steps that expand housing options during divorce Types of income lenders can (and can’t) use during mortgage qualification Hidden pitfalls in assumptions, refinancing, and temporary maintenance How relocation pressures affect children when housing decisions go wrong Resources from this Episode www.thedivorcecfo.com denverdivorceprofessionals.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law®️ podcast, Krista continues the tech tools for coparents series with a deep dive into Our Family Wizard, one of the most established and widely adopted communication platforms in family law. She interviews Elle Barr, a former family law attorney, longtime guardian ad litem, and current Education Coordinator at Our Family Wizard, who brings more than two decades of child-focused legal experience to her work. Elle explains how the platform’s design grew out of real-world family law challenges and why its features matter for reducing conflict, creating clarity, and strengthening the co-parenting relationship. She walks through how tools like messaging, the shared calendar, expense tracking, the Information Bank, ToneMeter AI, journal entries, third-party accounts, and documented audio/video calls are intentionally built to improve communication and protect children from the stress of unmanaged conflict. Krista and Elle also discuss the importance of predictable documentation, the role professionals can play through their own linked accounts, and how transparent tools often prevent unnecessary litigation. Elle breaks down subscription tiers, fee waivers for families who qualify, and how Our Family Wizard supports parents navigating high-conflict situations, domestic violence restrictions, supervised contact, dependency matters, and everyday scheduling needs. Whether listeners are parents, practitioners, or professionals supporting families in transition, this episode highlights how thoughtful technology can give structure, support, and accountability during and after separation. Elle’s child-centered experience and practical guidance offer a clear look at what effective co-parenting tools can accomplish when used consistently. In this episode, you will hear: Tools inside Our Family Wizard that support clearer communication and documentation How ToneMeter AI guides parents toward calmer, more respectful messaging Ways the shared calendar, expense tracking, and Information Bank create reliability Why documented calls and transcripts help in cases involving safety concerns Resources from this Episode www.ourfamilywizard.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law®️ podcast, Krista welcomes Meggin Rutherford, a Colorado attorney, mediator, and parenting coordinator whose professional work and personal experience give her a unique perspective on neurodiversity in family law. As an attorney with autism and ADHD, Meggin shares how understanding neurodivergent families can transform the way attorneys, judges, and parents approach custody, parenting plans, and co-parenting relationships. Drawing from her own journey as well as her work with families navigating autism, ADHD, and other neurodivergent experiences, Meggin explains how the legal system’s “one-size-fits-all” model often fails these families. She emphasizes the need for individualized parenting plans, reduced transitions for children, and clear decision-making structures that account for each child’s unique neurobiological wiring. Krista and Meggin discuss the difference between neurodiversity (the natural variation in how brains function) and mental health disorders, and why those distinctions matter when building parenting plans and advocating for children’s needs. They also explore how professionals can better support neurodivergent families through education, collaboration, and flexible approaches that prioritize each child’s comfort and security. Meggin offers powerful analogies, such as comparing neurodiverse brains to Linux operating systems, to help listeners grasp how neurodivergent children experience the world. She also highlights how unrecognized neurodiversity in parents can influence family dynamics and decision-making during divorce. Her message is both practical and hopeful: when parents and professionals understand these differences, they can create plans that allow every child to thrive. This conversation invites attorneys, mental health professionals, and parents alike to see families more clearly and to understand that labels, when embraced, can be empowering tools for support and belonging. In this episode, you will hear: The difference between neurodiversity and mental health disorders Why neurodivergent families need customized parenting plans and reduced transitions How shared decision-making can create challenges for families with neurodivergent children The importance of professionals recognizing and accommodating neurodiverse parents and kids Resources from this Episode mrutherfordlaw.com/meggin Resources for Families and Professionals Autism: Autism: A New Understanding – Verywell Magazine Special Edition Uniquely Human by Barry Prizant, PhD A Different Kind of Normal by Abigail Balfe Strengths-Based Guide to Supporting Autistic Children by Claire O’Neill ADHD: How to ADHD by Jessica McCabe (book and YouTube) The Explosive Child by Dr. Ross Greene ADHD 2.0 by Dr. Edward Hallowell and Dr. John Ratey www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law®️ podcast, Krista welcomes Nil Buckley, a licensed professional counselor, licensed addiction counselor, and domestic violence clinical supervisor whose expertise bridges trauma-informed mental health, forensic evaluation, and family law. Nil is the founder of Vivas Counseling and Care Forensic Solutions and creator of The CARE Method, an evidence-based program now used in multiple states to support both survivors and offenders. Her background includes extensive work with the Colorado Department of Corrections, court-ordered treatment programs, and expert testimony in criminal and domestic relations cases. Drawing from this deep professional experience, Nil joins Krista to explore how coercive control and its related forms, including legal abuse, financial manipulation, and psychological coercion, show up in custody cases and family court. She explains that there are now 24 recognized forms of abuse in the global research literature, yet many family law professionals still focus only on physical harm. Nil’s work seeks to change that by educating judges, attorneys, and mental health providers about the full spectrum of domestic violence and its impact on children. The discussion also examines Colorado’s evolving domestic violence laws, such as Kayden’s Law, which aim to protect families better but can be challenging to implement consistently in court. Nil and Krista address the tension between holding offenders accountable and ensuring survivors aren’t further harmed by systems meant to safeguard them. They share real-world examples of how trauma, reactive behaviors, and legal complexity intersect in divorce and custody disputes and what professionals can do to create safer, more balanced outcomes. This conversation launches a continuing series on domestic violence and coercive control, setting the stage for future episodes with Nil that will dive even deeper into the realities of abuse, accountability, and healing in family law. In this episode, you will hear:   Expanding definitions of abuse beyond physical violence How coercive control and legal abuse appear in custody disputes Why trauma-informed evaluations matter in family law cases The complexities of applying Kayden’s Law and related legislation How professionals can balance accountability with survivor protection The importance of continued education across courts and legal systems   Resources from this Episode safersociety.org/nil-buckley-ma-lpc-lac-dvcs-ncc-acs www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this solo episode of the Children First Family Law® podcast, Krista explores one of the most essential tools for helping children thrive after separation or divorce—a thoughtful, child-centered parenting plan. Drawing from years of experience as a family law attorney, mediator, and parenting coordinator, Krista explains how clarity, predictability, and flexibility can create emotional safety for children during family transitions. She breaks down how to design developmentally appropriate parenting schedules from infancy through adolescence and explains why focusing on stability rather than strict equality best supports a child’s well-being. Krista also covers shared decision-making, communication strategies, managing holidays and vacations, handling new relationships, and addressing common pitfalls like technology use and “right of first refusal” clauses. Throughout the episode, she emphasizes that clarity is love, predictability is safety, and structure is one of the greatest gifts parents can give their children. Krista closes the episode by previewing her upcoming 16-week Co-Parent Coaching Program, designed to help parents create peaceful, structured, and emotionally healthy co-parenting lives. This October episode is a roadmap for parents seeking to build a stable and cooperative foundation for their children, even amid the challenges of family restructuring. In this episode, you will hear: The core philosophy behind a peaceful, child-centered parenting plan How to structure parenting schedules for different age groups Ways to handle decision-making responsibilities without conflict Communication strategies that foster cooperation and reduce tension How to address holidays, vacations, and new relationships thoughtfully The importance of predictability, emotional safety, and flexibility Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.

In this episode of Children First Family Law, Krista sits down with Christina McGhee, a co-parenting expert, mediator, and author of “Parenting Apart: How Separated and Divorced Parents Can Raise Happy and Secure Kids.” Christina brings decades of experience helping families navigate the challenges of separation and divorce, offering practical strategies to support both parents and children during transitions. Krista and Christina explore the concept of nesting, where parents temporarily share the same home after separation, allowing children to remain in one familiar environment. They discuss how nesting can help parents practice new roles, build trust, and gradually shift responsibilities, while highlighting common challenges such as establishing boundaries, managing expectations, and accommodating children’s preferences. The conversation also delves into the importance of communication, routines, and consistency for children. Christina shares actionable guidance on setting expectations for “on duty” and “off duty” parenting, fostering healthy parent-child relationships, and preparing children for changes in family structure. They also address societal expectations around mothering and fathering, and the impact of premature introduction of new partners. Throughout the episode, Christina emphasizes practical, grounded strategies parents can use to navigate co-parenting successfully. She highlights resources for parents, including her website and comprehensive guides, and emphasizes the importance of building resilience in children to cope with uncertainty and change. This episode offers a wealth of actionable insights for parents, professionals, and anyone supporting families through separation and divorce. In this episode, you will hear: What nesting involves and how it supports children during separation Ways parents can keep boundaries clear while sharing space Emotional and logistical realities of early co-parenting transitions The role of communication and shared purpose in making nesting work Situations where nesting may not serve a family well How professionals can guide parents through early transition planning Resources from this Episode Christina McGhee, Divorce Parenting Expert, Trainer, Coach, Author, Education & Training Director: SPLIT Films – Divorce and Children, LLC coparentingspecialist.com divorceandchildren.com Book: Parenting Apart: How Separated and Divorced Parents Can Raise Happy and Secure Kids www.amazon.com/s?k=parenting+apart+christina+mcghee&crid=3T5BH29G1YY0&sprefix=parenting+apart%2Caps%2C163&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-pd-dpltr-ranker_2_15 divorceandchildren.com/about-christina-mcghee www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this final episode of the four-part ACEs series on Children First Family Law, Krista dives into practical strategies for parents and professionals to support children through adverse experiences and the complex realities of family law. Building on earlier discussions about parental addiction, attachment, and trauma, Krista outlines ways parents can actively foster resilience and emotional security for their children, even when co-parenting challenges arise. Krista emphasizes the importance of separating a child’s perception of a parent from the parent’s struggles. She shares creative approaches, such as building a library of videos of a parent reading or engaging with the child during periods of instability. By doing this, parents can validate their child’s connection with both caregivers, avoid reinforcing negative feelings, and promote stability and trust, even in difficult circumstances. Small rituals, predictable routines, affirming therapy, and engagement with activities like art or nature help children feel secure and supported, and demonstrate the power of consistent presence over conflict. The episode also expands the focus to professionals in the family law system, including judges, attorneys, child advocates, and therapists. Krista outlines how the adversarial structure of courts can unintentionally exacerbate trauma for both children and parents, and how trauma-informed approaches grounded in safety, trust, choice, collaboration, and empowerment can mitigate harm. She highlights the need for trauma-informed language, empathy, and curiosity, both in interactions with families and in self-care for professionals navigating high-conflict cases. Closing the series, Krista paints a vision for a family law system that prioritizes children’s safety, emotional security, and long-term resilience. By combining research on ACES, practical parenting strategies, and professional responsibility, she challenges parents and practitioners to reframe conflict as an opportunity to foster connection and healing. The episode reinforces that trauma-informed advocacy is not only possible. It is essential to shape outcomes that truly serve families and communities. In this episode, you will hear: How to foster attachment and resilience in children when one parent struggles with addiction Practical strategies to maintain children’s connection to both parents through creative tools and predictable routines The importance of trauma-informed approaches in the family law system How small actions by parents and professionals can prevent new adverse childhood experiences Ways professionals can shift from judgment to empathy, curiosity, and healing-centered advocacy Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this third installment of the four-part series on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs), Krista continues her powerful conversation with Columbine survivor Chris Markham. While Chris has shared the trauma of his upbringing and the violence he witnessed, this episode turns toward resilience and healing. His story shows that even when children grow up with high ACEs, it is possible to build a life filled with love, family, and purpose. Chris reflects on the role therapy played in helping him work through post-traumatic stress, anger, and grief. He explains how finding healthy outlets, such as Taekwondo, supportive relationships, and consistent guidance, helped him shift from a destructive path toward one focused on growth. Krista and Chris explore the challenges of forgiveness, the weight of intergenerational trauma, and how breaking harmful cycles can allow children to experience childhood more fully than their parents once did. The episode also highlights how parents’ choices during divorce profoundly affect their children. Chris emphasizes that even when relationships break down, children still love both parents. Respecting that bond and avoiding toxic narratives is essential for preventing long-term emotional harm. His personal experiences reveal the lasting consequences of parental alienation and the importance of maintaining space for both parents in a child’s life. Ultimately, Chris’s journey is both sobering and hopeful. From surviving Columbine to raising two children of his own, he demonstrates how resilience, forgiveness, and intentional parenting can overcome even the most painful beginnings. For parents, attorneys, and professionals working with families, this episode offers a meaningful reminder: trauma may shape us, but it doesn’t have to define us. In this episode, you will hear: Resilience grows when children are guided toward positive relationships and safe outlets Forgiveness frees individuals from carrying trauma into adulthood Breaking intergenerational cycles allows kids to experience true childhood Parents must respect a child’s bond with both parents, even after divorce Toxic narratives create lasting damage and resentment Healing requires patience, consistency, and space for reconnection Resources from this Episode www.columbinememorial.org www.cdc.gov/aces/about/index.html my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/24875-adverse-childhood-experiences-ace www.apaf.org/our-programs/justice/free-resources/what-are-aces https://www.samhsa.gov/resource/sptac/adverse-childhood-experiences-role-substance-misuse-prevention www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this second installment of the Children First Family Law podcast’s four-part series on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs), Krista welcomes her longtime friend Chris Markham. Chris opens up about his childhood in a family affected by divorce, emotional disconnection, and abuse. He also reflects on the devastating day he survived the Columbine High School shooting as a freshman, bringing to light the profound ways trauma can shape a child’s life. His willingness to share these experiences provides an intimate glimpse into how ACEs manifest in real families. Chris recounts how parental alienation, strict limitations on contact with his father, and the instability of living with a mother struggling with substance abuse compounded the trauma of his early years. Physical abuse at the hands of a stepfather further deepened the challenges he faced. These experiences left him with a constant sense of disconnection and a drive to seek out healthier role models and mentors who could help him imagine a different future. Despite the weight of these adversities, Chris discovered strength in discipline and community. Through martial arts, mentorship, and his own determination, he cultivated resilience that carried him beyond the instability of his upbringing. The discipline he adopted helped him counter destructive patterns and provided him with the tools to process his pain in constructive ways. His story demonstrates the critical role that supportive adults and structured environments play in helping children heal from trauma. Today, Chris is a husband and father committed to building a stable and loving home for his family. He speaks candidly about how his past fuels his desire to break cycles of generational trauma and to model healthier relationships for his children. His journey illustrates both the risks of ACEs and the hope that comes from resilience, making this conversation an important listen for parents, professionals, and anyone striving to support children through adversity. In this episode, you will hear: Growing up with divorce, emotional disconnection, and abuse in the home The reality of surviving the Columbine High School shooting as a freshman Parental alienation and its impact on a child’s relationship with both parents The role of substance abuse and unstable environments in shaping childhood trauma Physical abuse from a stepfather and the long-lasting effects of violence in the home How discipline and martial arts created structure and stability amid chaos Mentors and supportive adults stepping in when family life fell apart Building resilience by turning pain into strength and determination The ongoing work of breaking cycles of generational trauma Creating a healthier family legacy through fatherhood and committed relationships Resources from this Episode www.columbinememorial.org www.cdc.gov/aces/about/index.html my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/24875-adverse-childhood-experiences-ace www.apaf.org/our-programs/justice/free-resources/what-are-aces www.samhsa.gov/resource/sptac/adverse-childhood-experiences-role-substance-misuse-prevention www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Today’s episode of the Children First Family Law podcast launches a powerful four-part series on adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), trauma, and resilience. Krista records this conversation with Dr. Kathleen McNamara, the day after the Evergreen High School shooting in Jefferson County, Colorado, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk in Utah. Both tragedies underscore how deeply trauma ripples through families and communities. Dr. McNamara, a psychologist and national leader in trauma-informed family law, explains the origins of the ACEs study and the direct connection between early childhood adversity and long-term outcomes such as chronic health issues, depression, and even shortened life expectancy. Together, she and Krista explore how high-conflict divorce can become an ACE, why early intervention is critical, and how functional co-parenting reduces harm. This urgent conversation also expands the ACEs discussion to modern realities—school shootings, bullying, discrimination, and the lingering effects of COVID-19—and introduces resilience factors that can alter a child’s trajectory. Safe caregivers, coping strategies, social connections, and trauma-informed practices can help children heal and thrive, even after experiencing hardship. As the first installment in the ACEs series, this episode sets the stage for Parts 2 and 3, featuring the story of a Columbine survivor who endured multiple ACEs, and Part 4, where Krista shares practical guidance for parents and professionals on protecting children’s mental health during divorce. In this episode, you will hear: ACEs disrupt brain development and long-term health High-conflict divorce as a significant ACE risk factor Modern ACEs, including school shootings, discrimination, and COVID-19 Early intervention reduces harm and improves outcomes Safe caregivers, social support, and coping strategies build resilience Trauma-informed practices in family law protecting children   Resources from this Episode www.cdc.gov/aces/about/index.html my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/24875-adverse-childhood-experiences-ace www.apaf.org/our-programs/justice/free-resources/what-are-aces www.samhsa.gov/resource/sptac/adverse-childhood-experiences-role-substance-misuse-prevention www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista begins a new series exploring technology tools that help separated and divorced parents co-parent more effectively. She welcomes Heather Ruiz from TalkingParents, a platform designed to simplify communication, improve organization, and reduce conflict between co-parents. Heather shares how TalkingParents was created by a family law attorney who had firsthand experience with the struggles of co-parenting. The platform has evolved into a comprehensive solution that includes secure messaging, shared calendars, expense tracking, recorded calls, an info library for important documents, and resources for parents navigating high-conflict situations. Krista and Heather discuss the challenges parents face with traditional communication methods,  disorganized text messages, missing receipts, or misunderstandings, and how TalkingParents provides clarity, accountability, and security. Heather also explains how its features reduce litigation costs by documenting every interaction in a way that courts readily accept. For families, attorneys, and mental health professionals, this episode offers a close look at how tech tools  TalkingParents can keep the focus where it belongs—on the children. In this episode, you will hear: Why using a co-parenting app reduces conflict and builds accountability How TalkingParents helps streamline expenses, calendars, and document storage Security measures that ensure records remain accurate and admissible in court Options for both free and paid plans to meet families’ needs Extra features  recorded calls, transcripts, and educational resources How the app helps establish healthy co-parenting habits early in the process   Resources from this Episode talkingparents.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you  this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista welcomes Larry and Joni Jones, the creators of “The Point C Divorce,” a five-minute animated fable designed to help parents, attorneys, and professionals refocus on children’s well-being during divorce. Larry, a retired New Jersey Superior Court judge, and Joni, a board-certified psychiatric and mental health nurse, mediator, and restorative practice facilitator, combined their professional expertise and personal experiences to create a short but powerful video that shines a light on how parental conflict can harm children. The conversation traces the origins of Point C, which began with Larry sketching ideas on a pizza box after a particularly painful custody case. The video has since been used in courtrooms, mediation, and educational programs across the country, resonating with families and professionals alike. Larry and Joni explain how the fable illustrates the dangers of parents becoming consumed by litigation at the expense of their child’s emotional health. Joni shares how her own childhood experience with divorce shaped her perspective, emphasizing the importance of skill-building and forgiveness in helping families move forward. Together, she and Larry stress the need for attorneys, mediators, and parents to rethink how conflict is handled and to recognize that litigation often undermines the very “best interests of the child” it claims to protect. The episode highlights the long-term effects of contentious divorces, from fractured parent-child relationships to mental health struggles for children. Krista, Larry, and Joni discuss practical tools, such as effective listening, expectation-setting, and restorative practices, that can help parents break the cycle of conflict. You will come away with a deeper understanding of how Point C offers a wake-up call to keep children’s voices and well-being at the center of family law. In this episode, you will hear: The inspiration behind “The Point C Divorce” and how it began on a pizza box How the five-minute fable helps parents and professionals see the child’s perspective Why litigation often contradicts the “best interest of the child” Joni’s personal story as a child of divorce and how it influenced her work Tools for parents: skill-building, heartfelt forgiveness, and active listening The role of attorneys and mediators in shaping respectful, child-centered outcomes Why kids often just want the fighting to stop, no matter which parent is “right” Resources from this Episode pointcdivorce.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode, host Krista Nash sits down with parenting expert, author, and coach Christina McGhee to tackle one of the most difficult moments in divorce: telling your children. Christina, who has spent over two decades helping families navigate separation, shares compassionate, practical guidance for parents who want to put their children first during this life-altering conversation. Together, Krista and Christina explore the emotional weight parents carry and the common mistakes that can undermine a child’s sense of security. Christina emphasizes the importance of clarity, preparation, and unified messaging, reminding parents that while the marriage may be ending, parenting is not. She introduces strategies such as framing divorce as a change rather than an ending, using age-appropriate language, and avoiding over-sharing or placing emotional burdens on children. Listeners will also hear insights into how children of different ages process divorce, the dangers of using children as confidants, and the long-term impact of blurred boundaries. Christina offers practical tools for ensuring children feel a sense of belonging in both homes and encourages ongoing dialogue rather than a “one and done” conversation. In this episode, you will hear: Divorce doesn’t end parenting—it changes how you parent. Always use clear, age-appropriate language, including the word “divorce.” Never make your child a confidant or emotional caretaker. Prepare and plan the conversation instead of “winging it.” Make it an ongoing dialogue, not a one-time event. Resources from this Episode Christina McGhee, Divorce Parenting Expert, Trainer, Coach, Author, Education & Training Director: SPLIT Films – Divorce and Children, LLC https://coparentingspecialist.com/ https://divorceandchildren.com/ Book: Parenting Apart: How Separated and Divorced Parents Can Raise Happy and Secure Kids https://www.amazon.com/s?k=parenting+apart+christina+mcghee&crid=3T5BH29G1YY0&sprefix=parenting+apart%2Caps%2C163&ref=nb_sb_ss_p13n-pd-dpltr-ranker_2_15 https://divorceandchildren.com/about-christina-mcghee/ www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Co-parenting after divorce is one of the most difficult challenges parents face. In this solo episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista draws on her experience as an attorney, mediator, and child advocate to share practical strategies for improving communication between separated parents. With Colorado’s focus on the best interests of the child, Krista emphasizes that effective communication isn’t just a convenience; it directly impacts children’s stability, peace, and well-being. Krista explores common hurdles like old wounds resurfacing, mismatched communication styles, tone problems, and mistrust, all of which can derail even the most routine exchanges. She explains how parents can shift from reactive arguments to constructive conversations using the BIFF method (Brief, Informative, Friendly, Firm), and why choosing the right communication platform can reduce conflict and create a reliable record. From setting boundaries on response times to prioritizing the child's needs, Krista provides actionable ways parents can work together as a team. She stresses that communication should be approached like a business partnership with one shared goal—the care of their children. Krista also highlights resources for families in Colorado, including co-parenting apps, mediation, parenting classes, and counseling options, all of which can help parents strengthen their approach when communication feels impossible. The episode concludes with an important reminder: children notice how their parents speak to and about one another. Respectful exchanges model cooperation and reassure children that they come first. This episode is a practical guide for parents, professionals, and anyone supporting families navigating life after divorce. By adopting healthier communication strategies, parents can reduce conflict, protect their children’s peace, and build a more supportive two-home family dynamic. In this episode, you will hear: Communication challenges divorced parents face How the BIFF method helps diffuse conflict Why using co-parenting apps improves clarity and accountability Ways to set boundaries and avoid emotional reactions The importance of keeping children in the center, not the middle Resources in Colorado for co-parenting support Resources from this Episode highconflictinstitute.com/high-conflict-strategies/how-to-write-a-biff-response www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXhQLihi54 www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista speaks with Tim Reid, Director of Business Development at U-VERIFY™ Testing. Originally from Australia, Tim now lives in Austin, Texas, and works closely with U-VERIFY™’s San Diego-based laboratory while often connecting with clients and partners in Indiana. With a background in clinical pharmacology and experience across multiple industries, Tim introduces U-VERIFY™, a testing service designed to eliminate many of the problems family law professionals face when monitoring substance use. Traditional drug and alcohol testing often relies on inconvenient, costly, and sometimes unreliable methods. U-VERIFY™ changes this landscape with legally defensible, DNA-verified urine testing that can be completed remotely while protecting children and supporting accountability. Krista and Tim explore why urine remains the gold standard for drug and alcohol testing, the challenges of tampering with traditional tests, and how DNA verification ensures results truly belong to the individual tested. They also discuss the limitations of breathalyzers, the importance of comprehensive testing panels, and how U-VERIFY™ helps build trust between co-parents in high-conflict custody cases. By addressing both the science and the legal practicalities, Tim demonstrates how this service strengthens safety measures for children while streamlining the testing process for families and attorneys. In this episode, you will hear: Urine remains the preferred specimen type for reliable drug and alcohol testing DNA verification removes the need for invasive observed collections Breathalyzers have limits, so using complementary tools may be necessary U-VERIFY™ covers more than 70 substances, including alcohol, fentanyl, and prescription drugs Legally defensible results backed by accredited lab standards Remote testing streamlines the process, reduces conflict, and helps build trust in co-parenting Resources from this Episode www.phamatec.com  www.uverifytesting.com [email protected] for more info www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista Nash talks with Dr. Don Gordon, a clinical child psychologist and Executive Director of the Center for Divorce Education. Dr. Gordon shares how his personal experience with high-conflict divorce shaped his mission to help families reduce stress and improve parent-child relationships through evidence-based education. Their conversation centers around “Children in Between,” a widely used court-mandated parenting program, and its new companion course for kids. Dr. Gordon explains why emotional literacy, stress reduction, and safe communication are critical tools for children during separation and divorce. He also discusses the neuroscience of fight-or-flight responses in parents, how to interrupt reactive behaviors, and why involving kids in conversations about their feelings changes outcomes for life. Divorce doesn’t have to break a child’s emotional foundation if we give families the tools to manage it with care. In this episode, you will hear: Parents need training for co-parenting under stress, not just general parenting Children benefit when they learn how to name, share, and manage emotions Divorce stress impacts a child’s long-term relationships and mental health Online programs can support families with low-cost, effective tools Teaching emotional regulation improves how parents and kids relate Kids internalize conflict when they feel caught between two parents Loyalty conflicts do more harm than divorce itself Involving both parents in emotional coaching gives kids double the support When parents model calm responses, kids learn resilience Proactive education reduces litigation and emotional fallout Resources from this Episode www.childreninbetweenforkids.com  www.childreninbetween.com online.divorce-education.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of Children First Family Law, Krista welcomes retired New York Judge, Peggy Walsh, who brings decades of experience from both the Family and Supreme Courts. Judge Walsh unpacks how New York’s family law system centers children’s voices in custody cases and what the rest of the country can learn from it. Krista and Judge Walsh explore how attorneys for children play an active role in advocating for a child’s stated preferences, even when they differ from best interest arguments. They also compare New York’s court structure with Colorado’s, explore trauma-informed judicial practices, and reflect on how systems either empower or silence young voices. Judge Walsh shares how she approached in-camera interviews with children and how her bench experience now informs her work as a coach for co-parents navigating conflict. When a child tells their attorney what they want, that’s not just testimony. It’s a window into what makes sense for that child’s life. In this episode, you will hear: Child attorneys in New York reflect what the child wants, not what adults believe is best Best interest and expressed interest often overlap, but not always New York courts offer every child legal representation at no cost Judges rely on in-camera interviews to hear from children directly Ethical representation includes guiding children without overriding them Professionalism in family court matters more than persuasion Trauma-informed courts reduce harm during high-conflict litigation Courts trust parents to decide, and judges step in only when needed Kids in the middle of conflict often show internal distress Co-parenting coaching offers an alternative to repeated litigation   Resources from this Episode peggywalsh.com thecoparentcoach.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista Nash welcomes Allen Levy, an Anchorage-based mental health professional and parenting educator, for a direct and thoughtful discussion on how to parent after divorce. Allen draws from over two decades of work with high-conflict families to explain why parenting after separation needs to be treated as a job share, not an emotional battleground. He shares the framework behind his post-separation parenting curriculum, which was developed through years of real-world experience and is now utilized in workshops, therapy sessions, and court-ordered education. This approach teaches parents to focus on four core duties: communication, decision-making, problem-solving, and conflict resolution across key parenting domains like education, healthcare, and family routines. Through structured rules, concrete strategies, and clear analogies, Allen reframes co-parenting as professional conduct, not emotional entanglement. The result? Less conflict, fewer court battles, and healthier kids. You don’t need both parents to change. When one parent acts with professionalism, it can shift everything. In this episode, you will hear: Parent-child relationships must come before parent-to-parent conflict Parenting is a job with duties, boundaries, and standards Effective communication focuses on children, not personal grievances Shift changes (custody exchanges) should feel routine and drama-free Parallel parenting can work even when co-parenting is unrealistic Focus on behaviors, not blame or psychological explanations Avoid the trap of sharing emotional information with your ex Protect kids from conflict by removing them from the middle Redefine success by how well parents manage the job, not how they feel One parent can shift the dynamic, even if the other won’t change Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista sits down with Julia Chambers, creator of Mimbleballs, to explore how one quirky, fuzzy tool helps kids—and adults—manage big feelings. What started as a DIY craft with her son became a comfort object now used by therapists, attorneys, first responders, and families across the country. Julia shares how Mimbleballs provide tactile support, regulate nervous systems, and open emotional pathways during tough transitions like divorce, court appearances, or co-parenting changes. She and Krista also discuss the deeper mission behind the brand, including its work with schools, nonprofits, and professionals helping children feel safe and seen. Sometimes healing starts with a hug—even from a fuzzy face with googly eyes. In this episode, you will hear: Breaks the ice in court-involved or high-stress settings Supports emotional regulation through texture, movement, and play Works across ages and developmental stages Opens communication when words feel hard Helps professionals and parents build trust with children Bridges transitions between homes or family systems Encourages self-soothing and emotional expression Promotes silliness, safety, and connection in difficult moments Gives children a reliable source of comfort they can carry with them Strengthens co-parenting dynamics through shared emotional tools Resources from this Episode www.mimbleball.com (Use code MBLOVE for the website shop for 10% off your entire purchase) www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista Nash welcomes Dr. Ann Ordway, a family law attorney, parenting coordinator, and stepfamily coach. Together, they unpack what it takes to build a healthy blended family, one grounded in patience, emotional awareness, and long-term thinking. Dr. Ordway shares what works and what fails when families blend too quickly. She draws on her professional expertise and personal experience of raising seven children in a blended family. They explore how children react to transitions, how co-parents can support one another across households, and how step-parents can earn trust instead of expecting it. This episode gives parents and professionals a roadmap for blending families that prioritizes emotional safety and sets children up to thrive. In this episode, you will hear:   Begin stepfamily transitions by acknowledging loss and grief Give each child space to adjust at their own pace Slow down recoupling to avoid emotional whiplash Approach introductions gradually, with clear communication Build step-parent relationships through trust, not authority Spend one-on-one time to strengthen individual bonds Coordinate with co-parents to reduce confusion and fear Keep children in familiar spaces when possible Treat stepchildren and biological children equitably Model respectful relationships between all households   Resources from this Episode www.afccnet.org/About/Staff/ann www.stepfamily.org www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of Children First Family Law, Krista welcomes Dr. Marsha Kline Pruett, a clinical psychologist, researcher, and nationally recognized authority on child development, co-parenting, and father involvement. Together, they explore what healthy post-divorce fathering looks like and what professionals and parents can do to foster those relationships. Dr. Pruett draws on decades of experience working with families in the U.S. and internationally, including groundbreaking work with the California Office of Child Abuse Prevention and long-term studies on parenting partnerships. She discusses how early father involvement impacts long-term child development and why gendered parenting roles still influence family law decisions. This episode also explores the pitfalls of rigid parenting plans, the pressure of 50/50 custody expectations, and how children process family dynamics differently than adults often assume. Dr. Pruett explains how to build trust between co-parents, why gatekeeping harms both children and relationships, and what attorneys and therapists should stop doing if they genuinely want to serve families well. This episode challenges assumptions about post-divorce parenting and offers a path forward where fathers stay connected, kids feel secure, and co-parents build trust, one interaction at a time. In this episode, you will hear:   Early father involvement as a foundation for long-term connection Gatekeeping and how it limits father-child relationships post-divorce Flexible parenting plans that reflect a child’s real-world needs Emotional safety over rigid time-sharing structures One-on-one time is more impactful than group settings Building co-parenting trust through consistency and accountability Harmful professional dynamics when attorneys mirror client conflict Benefits of parallel parenting when co-parenting isn’t possible Starting fresh, no matter how long it’s been Supporting fathers without undermining maternal relationships   Resources from this Episode marshapruett.com Book: Partnership Parenting: How Men and Women Parent Differently-Why It Helps Your Kids and Can Strengthen Your Marriage: www.amazon.com/Partnership-Parenting-Differently-Why-Strengthen-Marriage/dp/0738213268 Book: Your Divorce Advisor: www.amazon.com/Your-Divorce-Advisor-Psychologist-Emotional/dp/0684870681 www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of Children First Family Law, Krista explores one of the most high-conflict areas in Colorado family law: relocation after divorce or custody orders. When one parent wants to relocate, whether within or outside the state, courts must decide what serves the child’s best interest, not the parent’s. Krista walks through how Colorado handles relocation under C.R.S. §14-10-129, explains the difference between a parent's right to move and the right to move with a child, and addresses a common fear: Is it kidnapping to move without permission? She illustrates these issues with real-world case studies, one in which a parent left without notice, and another in which a parent followed every step legally. This solo episode covers the legal process, emotional impact, court standards, and how to keep children at the center of difficult relocation decisions. It’s a must-listen for any parent facing—or fearing—a move. In this episode, you will hear: Relocation means any move that significantly disrupts an existing parenting plan, not just moves across state lines Parents retain the right to relocate, but not the automatic right to move a child with them Colorado requires written notice, a proposed new parenting plan, and court approval under C.R.S. §14-10-129 Unauthorized relocation can result in contempt charges or emergency return orders, even without criminal charges Courts assess each relocation under the best interests of the child per C.R.S. §14-10-124 Long-distance parenting creates added costs and challenges—judges often assign travel costs to the relocating parent under C.R.S. §14-10-115(11) Emotional losses for children include missing friends, schools, and a parent’s daily presence Real case examples show why courts value transparency, cooperation, and early communication Key case law includes Spahmer v. Gullette, Ciesluk v. Ciesluk, In re Marriage of Martin, and DeZalia v. DeZalia Resources from this Episode Relocation statute: C.R.S. 14-10-129: codes.findlaw.com/co/title-14-domestic-matters/co-rev-st-sect-14-10-129 Best interests of the child: C.R.S. 14-10-124: codes.findlaw.com/co/title-14-domestic-matters/co-rev-st-sect-14-10-124 Payment issues: C.R.S. 14-10-115(11), scroll way down to find (11): codes.findlaw.com/co/title-14-domestic-matters/co-rev-st-sect-14-10-115 Key Colorado caselaw around relocation: In re Marriage of Ciesluk: law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/2005/04sc555-0.html Spahmer v. Gullette: law.justia.com/cases/colorado/supreme-court/2005/03sc751-0.html In re Marriage of Martin: callidusai.com/wp/ai/cases/2639358/in-re-the-marriage-of-martin In re Marriage of DeZalia: callidusai.com/wp/ai/cases/2638291/marriage-of-dezalia-v-dezalia www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In today’s episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista is joined by Dr. Susan Fletcher, a licensed psychologist in both Texas and Colorado, known for her deep experience with court-involved families and child-focused evaluations. Together, they explore what children truly experience during and after a divorce and how parents and professionals can better support their transition to life in two homes. Dr. Fletcher explains how children internalize language like “custody” and “visitation” and offers practical suggestions for reframing these terms in ways that support emotional resilience. She stresses the importance of maintaining consistency, recognizing a child's individual vulnerabilities, and reframing transitions as opportunities rather than losses. The conversation covers early intervention, therapist involvement, and the crucial role of in-home observations for professionals working with families post-divorce. This episode also addresses why mental health providers may resist testifying in court, how board complaints create fear, and what professionals can do to better navigate the intersection of clinical care and legal involvement. Dr. Fletcher shares real-world experiences from both therapy and evaluations, bringing clarity to a complex and emotionally charged aspect of family law. In this episode, you will hear: Children often absorb adult terminology like “custody” and “visitation” in ways that affect their sense of identity Simple language changes and reframes can support emotional safety during transitions Some kids adapt easily to two homes, while others need more structured emotional support In-home observations provide professionals with a clearer context for how children experience post-divorce life Fear of licensing complaints can prevent therapists from staying involved in court cases, even when their voices matter Parents can remain emotionally available without overwhelming their children Creating a strong support system helps families and professionals navigate ongoing changes Shifting focus from fear-based reactions to hopeful engagement promotes healthier outcomes Resources from this Episode www.fletcherphd.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this episode of the Children First Family Law Podcast, Krista welcomes Seth Goldstein, a California-based family law attorney, expert witness, and former police officer with over four decades of experience in child protection. The conversation centers on how courts respond—or fail to respond—when child abuse allegations arise in the context of divorce or custody disputes. Drawing on his experience in law enforcement and years of litigating high-conflict family law cases, Seth offers a rare dual perspective that spans criminal investigations, forensic evidence, and courtroom advocacy. Krista and Seth examine how family courts often lack the protections, resources, and trauma-informed systems that exist in dependency courts, leaving children vulnerable in legal battles that prioritize parental rights over child safety. Krista and Seth also discuss how allegations are frequently dismissed as custody tactics, the limitations of child protective services, the misunderstood role of minors’ counsel, and how new legislation, like Colorado’s Kayden’s Law and House Bill 24-1350, aims to shift the focus back to the child. This episode is a must-listen for family law professionals, child advocates, and parents navigating abuse concerns in the middle of divorce. It’s also a sobering look at what can go wrong and what needs to change to prevent tragedy. In this episode, you will hear: The disconnect between how criminal courts and family courts handle child abuse allegations Why dependency courts offer more protection for children than family courts How courts evaluate the credibility of abuse claims in custody disputes The critical role of evidence, mandatory reporters, and multidisciplinary teams Why some abuse reports are dismissed, even when they’re credible The dangers of forced reunification and outdated views on co-parenting Colorado’s response through Kayden’s Law and HB 24-1350 What parents can do if they suspect abuse, and fear the system won’t believe them The long-term effects of domestic violence on children, even without direct exposure A call for reform: shifting from shared parenting presumptions to child-centered outcomes Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com www.lawofficesofsethgoldstein.com www.missingkids.org/home fvaplaw.org www.phillyburbs.com/story/news/local/2024/03/26/kayden-mancuso-pa-legislature-kaydens-law-child-custody-reform-bucks-county/73103605007/#:~:text=What%20happened%20to%20Kayden%20Mancuso,%2C%22%20and%20then%20killed%20himself. www.hud.gov/vawa#close leadershipcouncil.org www.ivatcenters.org www.peaceoverviolence.org/iii-the-cycle-of-violence-and-power-and-control www.thehotline.org/here-for-you bwjp.org All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this solo episode of the Children First Family Law podcast, Krista, a Colorado-based family law attorney and child advocate, breaks down her structured approach to serving as a Child’s Legal Representative (CLR) in high-conflict divorce and custody cases across the state. Krista shares her 11-step process for advocating on behalf of children during some of the most complex and emotionally charged family law matters. Drawing on her experience practicing throughout Denver, Boulder, Fort Collins, and Colorado Springs, she guides listeners through the process of how CLRs are appointed, their interactions with families, and how they contribute to shaping child-centered solutions both inside and outside the courtroom. From initial appointments and home visits to therapeutic collaboration and final court engagement, Krista explains how an active, negotiation-based model empowers children to have a voice while protecting their well-being. She also compares the CLR role to other evaluative processes used in Colorado family courts, including CFIs and PREs, highlighting the benefits of real-time engagement and ongoing problem-solving. For parents, attorneys, and professionals working in Colorado family law, this episode offers a clear and practical guide to what it means to truly represent the best interests of the child, with a process that’s informed, intentional, and deeply rooted in trauma-aware advocacy. In this episode, you will hear: How courts appoint a Child’s Legal Representative (CLR) in Colorado Why earlier CLR involvement can lead to better outcomes for families A detailed look at Krista’s 11-step CLR process, from start to finish The value of active negotiation over passive observation in high-conflict parenting cases The difference between a CLR and roles like CFIs or parenting evaluators Strategies to support children’s voices in parenting time disputes How Colorado-specific forms (JDF 1319/1320) initiate the CLR appointment process   Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

In this moving episode of the Children First Family Law Podcast, Krista welcomes acclaimed documentary filmmaker Ellen Bruno, the creator behind the powerful films “Split: The Early Years” and “Split Up: The Teen Years.” These documentaries feature a cast of real children who had experienced divorce of their parents, with purely their voices and artwork, no experts, no therapists, no adults – just the kids. Split featured the kids when young; Split Up then followed up with the same kids 10 years later, reflecting on how divorce had impacted them as they emerged into late teens and young adulthood. The films give incredibly powerful insight every parent going through family law dynamics should watch, as well as any professional in the family law arena. The film is raw, honest, and deeply impactful.  In her conversation with Krista, Ellen shares the personal journey that inspired her to create Split, which began after her own divorce when she heard her own child and others in carpools from school discussing issues of divorce and the lightbulb that went off in her head that she could use her filmmaking to give voice to the voiceless and shine a light on the impact of divorce on children  She had already spent much of her career in humanitarian work and international filmmaking attempting to give voice to many different people groups, with films focusing on issues at the forefront of human rights.  Ellen began her relief efforts in remote Mayan villages in Tabasco, Mexico. She worked in refugee camps on the Thai-Cambodian border with the International Rescue Committee, in Vietnamese boat camps with The Refugee Section of the American Embassy in Thailand, and as director of the Cambodian Women's Project for the American Friends Service Committee. With a masters degree in documentary film from Stanford University, she is a recipient of Guggenheim and Rockefeller Fellowships, a Goldie Award for Outstanding Artist, an Alpert Award for the Arts,an Anonymous Was A Woman Award for the Arts, a Shenkin Fellowship from Yale University School of Art, and was an Artist-in- Residence at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, among many other accomplishments. Krista and Ellen explore recurring themes from both Split films, including identity shifts, the emotional cost of “two homes,” and the unspoken pressure children feel to take care of their parents. They also highlight how parents, legal professionals, and mental health practitioners can utilize the films to gain a deeper understanding of the child’s perspective—and why it matters so much. Ellen shares, too, the potential for another film following up yet again with these now-adult kids and/or their parents, a possibility Krista encourages. This conversation is a true gem for the podcast and a must-listen for divorcing parents, co-parents, attorneys, and anyone who works with families. It’s a powerful reminder that small choices can create lasting change and that truly listening to children can transform our approach to divorce. In this episode, you will hear: The emotional cost of silence and shame in divorce Why kids need space to share their experiences without adult interference The impact of small co-parenting gestures, like family photos or shared events How the Split films help parents and professionals re-center on children A reminder that divorce doesn’t end in six months—it’s a lifelong transition   Resources from this Episode To purchase the “Split” films: https://www.splitfilm.org/family-purchase-options/ https://www.splitfilm.org/ Contact Ellen Bruno: [email protected] www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Choosing a therapist for your child often feels daunting because it’s an important decision in the divorce process. Today’s guest offers invaluable advice on what to look for in a therapy professional. On this episode of Children First Family Law, Krista welcomes child custody expert and Texas-licensed professional counselor Christy Bradshaw Schmidt. Christy has served as a private child custody evaluator since 2003, having completed more than 600 evaluations for families. She also serves as a private consultant and expert witness in family law matters like constructing parenting plans for kids less than three years old, relocation, reunification, and parent-child contact problems, among other topics. Christy is also a leading voice in helping therapists understand boundaries in high-conflict cases, the appropriate roles of mental health professionals in family law matters, and why selecting appropriate therapists for court-involved families is critical. Christy is the author of hundreds of articles and presentations surrounding issues related to children and family courts. Krista and Christy begin their discussion by delving into Christy’s journey working with court-involved families. Christy explains the problem with therapists’ training, why nearly all cases requiring child custody evaluations also require therapeutic resources, and her experience with 600+ custody evaluations, with 90% of those including recommendations for therapy. You’ll hear specific ways parents can find the best and most appropriate mental health professionals and why more therapists need to enter this line of work. Krista and Christy cover the necessity of transparency between therapists and both parents, Christy’s process for dealing with parent-child contact cases, and why family law is an incredible career focus area for mental health professionals who can find many satisfying rewards in helping families flourish. Divorce is incredibly distressing for children and families. Involving a qualified therapist can help guide parents to help children and parents cope with divorce realities and meet individual and coparenting needs moving forward. In this episode, you will hear: Christy Bradshaw Schmidt’s journey into working with court-involved families The problem with therapists’ training, fostering fear in working with court-involved families Why nearly all child custody evaluations recommend  therapeutic resources to help fix the problems The incredible dearth of trained professionals willing to do this critically important work, for example about 25 in the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas, area, demonstrating the serious issues of supply and demand mismatch for families going through divorce and needing help Specific ways parents can find the best, most appropriate mental health professionals by using the right keywords and asking the right questions The problems and likely damage parents face when they choose the wrong mental health professionals   Why more therapists need to go into this line of work Therapists’ basic training that makes them ill-equipped to do this work How therapists can obtain the necessary skills to help court-involved families The importance of therapists for the family to work with one another and communicate regularly The need for transparency between therapists and both parents Rebuilding and fostering trust between parents Ethics considerations for therapists involved with court-involved families Why mental health professionals should testify regarding their work when parents go to court in family law cases The process Christy would use in a family with parent-child contact problems What other states can learn from Texas, which created rule changes around grieving therapists in these cases, giving them more protection and allowing more therapists to be willing to do this important work Why Christy believes family law is an incredible area in which mental health professionals can focus one’s career, giving therapists so many opportunities to help families flourish despite the breakdown caused by divorce Resources from this Episode www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com txfamilylawforensics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/CV-combined-version-with-CE-5425feb.pdf txfamilylawforensics.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

Many professionals in the divorce community are beginning to recognize the impact divorce can have on children. Out of that realization, innovative programs are emerging that can help children and families flourish despite a divorce. On today’s Children First Family Law, Krista interviews Trina Nudson, creator of nationally available child-centered co-parenting programs that parents anywhere can access to transform the quality of their co-parenting. Trina first worked as a foster care social worker and later transitioned to a best interest attorney for kids. She recognized that children and parents of divorce needed better solutions to help safeguard childhood and strove to find solutions for change. Trina recently launched her innovative BeH2O program, training professionals across the United States to encourage parents to transform their co-parenting and navigate challenges with resilience and fluidity that overflows to their children, helping everyone flourish. Krista and Trina start their conversation by delving into Trina’s background in social work, what led her into law, and finally, her work as an entrepreneur developing programs to help parents and children flourish post-divorce. You’ll hear about her initial project, The Layne Project, now known as The Layne Project 4 Families, and how that led to the creation of BeH2O, a 16-week co-parenting curriculum. She shares what she means by “safeguarding childhoods,” the various offerings BeH2O offers participants and coaches, and how BeH2O integrates kids into the process. Trina explains why co-parenting requires rebuilding and shares some of her family success stories. Finally, Trina explains the cost of BeH2O and why it can be much more cost-effective than further involving the court and attorneys. Previously, resources for parents who want to co-parent more effectively have been limited, but with emerging programs like BeH2O, parents have more options than ever to improve co-parenting dynamics. In this episode, you will hear: Trina Nudson’s journey from social work to law to entrepreneur, developing real solutions to help divorced parents be the best possible co-parents How she helped innovate Kansas courts to better serve children, including through the state's triage system. The suffering ALICE families (asset-limited, income-constrained, employed families) experience with few services available to help them be better co-parents and help their children flourish despite divorce The Layne Project in Kansas, Trina’s initial effort to meet these needs head-on for decades, now a nonprofit called The Layne Project 4 Families New solutions to scale her program through BeH2O, a 16-week co-parenting curriculum, with offerings now (or soon) in 14 states, and goals to reach all 50 states within two-and-a-half years Trina’s goal to “safeguard childhoods,” and why divorced parents need to do the same How BeH2O Coaching offers training through Trina’s competitive, selective program for professionals serving families. Details about how the program works, including integrating kids into the process  The program is not “magic fairy dust” but “getting real” Program topics include: effective communication, tools for tough situations, empathy and understanding, commitment to growth, and well-being beyond parenting Why co-parenting change requires rebuilding, because the old models of parental interaction are obsolete BeH2O is not therapy and not typical parent coaching, but rather a guided, curriculum-based program  Real success stories and transformation for even the most entrenched parents How the EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) system helps Trina run the program The cost of attending the program as a professional or parent Resources from this Episode thelayneproject.com/educational-programs/beh2o beh2ocoaching.com tlp4families.org thelayneproject.com/blog www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.

When couples split up, animosity and resentment can fester, leaving children caught in the middle. On this episode of Children First Family Law, Krista welcomes Jill Reiter and Dr. Shelley Bresnick to discuss their program, Co-Parenting with Respect, a 10-session curriculum that brings children’s voices to the forefront and delicately facilitates parents learning to be the best possible co-parents. Shelley is a clinical psychologist who has worked with Colorado’s court-involved families for decades as a parental responsibilities evaluator, co-parent educator, and parenting plan consultant. She is also a therapist, working with children, adolescents, couples, and families. Jill is a licensed clinical social worker who received much of her early training with psychiatrists in child, adolescent, and adult inpatient psychiatric units. She has years of experience working with disrupted family systems through the public and private sectors. Jill maintains a private practice in Colorado, specializing in child, adolescent, and family therapy, including parent-child contact problems and parent coaching. Krista, Jill, and Shelley begin their discussion by exploring the providers’ backgrounds and how they decided to partner to develop Co-Parenting with Respect. Jill and Shelley explain how they screen co-parents for the program, the positive impact on children when parents overcome dysfunctional co-parenting dynamics, and how they implement child voice sessions. Jill and Shelley outline the Co-Parenting with Respect curriculum, explain what situations and families the curriculum best serves, how they teach parents to communicate together, and share a couple of their favorite success stories of families who completed the program. Finally, the family law bar and in particular litigation-focused attorneys need to know about their role in the divorce process and the impact litigation focus has in harming families and coparenting outcomes Reframing the co-parenting dynamic is a critical piece of the puzzle following divorce. Shelley and Jill are teaching parents how to communicate and interact so their children can flourish for years to come with both parents. In this episode, you will hear: Jill Reiter’s background in social work and discovery of a passion for work in the divorce and domestic relations realm Dr. Shelley Bresnick’s entry into divorce work after completing her Ph.D. The development of Jill and Dr. Bresnick’s Co-Parenting with Respect program How they screen co-parents for their program, and the impact that domestic violence can have on the screening Overcoming difficult co-parenting dynamics and the positive impact it can have on children The goal of Child Voice Sessions and what makes them unique. An outline of the Co-Parenting with Respect curriculum Teaching parents how to communicate together, focusing on the children, and the shift that occurs when parents learn these skills Jill and Shelley’s favorite family success stories from their program The family dynamics best suited for the Co-Parenting with Respect program Finding common ground with which parents can resonate and use to turn their relationship into a business-like relationship that is courteous and puts children first What attorneys need to know about their role in the divorce process and the impact litigation focus has in harming families and coparenting outcomes   Resources from this Episode www.coparentingwithrespect.com Jill Reiter, LCSW, is offering the CPR program at the following location:    750 E. 9th Ave Suite 104 Denver, CO 80203 Call or email: 720-810-9910 or [email protected] jillreiterlcswpllc.com Shelley Bresnick, PsyD, PLLC, is offering CPR at the following location.  710 Kipling Suite 103 Lakewood, CO 80215 Call or email: 303-601-4983 or [email protected] shelleybresnickpsyd.com www.childrenfirstfamilylaw.com All states have different laws; be sure you are checking out your state laws specifically surrounding divorce. Krista is a licensed attorney in Colorado and Wyoming but is not providing through this podcast legal advice. Please be sure to seek independent legal counsel in your area for your specific situation.  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.