Sink and Swim

Dr. Jessica Drummond has spent two decades training clinicians and coaches in women's health. She built the only women's health coach certification program in the world. And somewhere in the middle of all of that, she started going to the French bakery just because she felt like it.That tension — between what we've built and what we actually want — is at the heart of this conversation.We talk about what it looks like to stay grounded when your day is anything but linear. The systemic pressure behind personal branding and why it's not just vanity. The analog friendships we've quietly stopped having. Perimenopause as a portal, not a problem. And the historic moment we may be living inside — the first time in history that a meaningful number of women have enough money, power, and autonomy to actually ask what they want.And mean it.This one is for the woman who has built something real and is starting to wonder what she actually built it for.00:00 — Who Is Dr. Jessica Drummond08:56 — The High Achiever Who Learned to Stop Overriding14:16 — Why Everyone Feels Pressure to Have a Personal Brand (It's Not What You Think)19:29 — Analog Friendship and What We've Quietly Lost38:50 — The Internet Is Polluted — and the Swing Back to Human45:24 — AI, Ethics, and the Healthcare Provider's Dilemma54:05 — The First Generation of Women Who Get to Ask What They Want01:05:25 — Perimenopause as a Portal: The Veil Lifts01:13:19 — Outro--Love what you hear and want to learn more from Jessica? Discover more on Instagram:Integrative Women's Health Institute: @integrativewomenshealthJessica's instagram: @drjessicadrummondTune in to the Integrative Women's Health PodcastIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

You see the LinkedIn announcement from a colleague. You see them celebrate pivoting from Point A to Point B.But you don't don't see what happened in the middle of the pivot for it to actually happen. In this episode, Julie breaks down the four stages of a healthcare career pivot — and why the messy, invisible middle is actually where the real transformation lives. This isn't a how-to. It's a map. And it's the conversation nobody posts about.Through real stories of clients who went from pelvic PT to somatic coach, from viral Instagram influencer to brick-and-mortar practice, from corporate PT manager to web designer, from neuro clinician to top real estate broker, and from nurse practitioner to hospital chaplain, Julie names what actually happens between who you were and who you're becoming.If you've been circling the same question for months — or years — this episode will help you figure out exactly where you are, why you're not stuck, and what it actually takes to move forward without losing yourself in the process.03:54 — Why Nobody Talks About the Middle of a Career Pivot 09:02 — The 4 Stages of Career Change (And Why You Can't Skip Them) 18:36 — Stage 1 & 2: Scouting, Seeking, and Running on the Treadmill 29:50 — Stage 3: Emerging — The Birthing Process Nobody Warned You About 38:01 — Subtracting to Add: Why Grief Is the Thing That Actually Moves You Forward 52:17 — Real Clinician Stories: What Pivots Actually Look Like From the InsideIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Many high-achieving and active women in perimenopause and teen athletes in puberty pride themselves on discipline, resilience, and doing everything “right.” But what if the very habits that helped you succeed are quietly draining your energy, disrupting your hormones, and disconnecting you from your body?In this episode, Julie sits down with Dr. Katherine Hill (Stanford-trained physician) and Megan Hellner (registered dietitian) — co-founders of AthleteMD, a multidisciplinary practice specializing in Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (RED-S).What begins as a conversation about young athletes quickly expands into something much bigger: the hidden epidemic of under-fueling among ambitious humans, especially women navigating intense careers, motherhood, and changing bodies.They explore why many driven people unknowingly fall into chronic under-fueling while trying to follow “healthy” advice — from clean eating to high-protein trends to restrictive wellness culture. They also unpack the surprising parallels between teen athletes and women in midlife, where changing hormones, high performance expectations, and misinformation collide.This episode is a powerful reminder that health isn’t something you earn through restriction or optimization — it begins with enough fuel, enough flexibility, and enough compassion for the body you live in.Whether you’re an athlete, a healthcare professional, a parent of a young competitor, or simply someone learning to soften after years of pushing yourself, this conversation will challenge the way you think about food, performance, and self-trust.00:00 — Why High-Performing Women and Athletic Teens Often Run on Empty08:21 — Building AthleteMD: Creating Care That Puts People First14:23 — RED-S: The Hidden Energy Deficiency Affecting Athletes of all Ages Everywhere22:20 — When “Healthy Eating” Becomes Under-Fueling32:29 — The Overlooked Parallel: Teen Athletes and Women in Midlife42:44 — Recognizing the Warning Signs of RED-S58:09 — What True Nourishment Actually Looks Like for Athletes-- Love what you hear and want to explore more? --Stay connected with the founders of AthleatMD:Instagram: @athleatMDWebsite: https://www.athleatmd.com/If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Welcome to the second-ever Notes from a Fart Walk — your monthly, come-as-you-are digest for ambitious women who are tired of urgency, polarization, and performative “fix yourself” wisdom.In this episode, Julie sinks into real-time, unpolished truth: the “recovering good girl” moment at a big event when her body was pleading to leave… and the shame spiral that followed when she looked around and assumed everyone else was “fine.” She unpacks why this isn’t a personal flaw — it’s inherited conditioning — and how self-trust is rebuilt through simple noticing, not more optimizing.From there, she moves into what feels stinky and unfinished right now: body image narratives, perimenopause, and the deeper cultural roots of fatphobia and “health” standards — plus the permission to be in process, without needing a tidy conclusion. You’ll also hear what’s been keeping her up at night (in a nerdy, grounding way): curiosity about civics, systems, and how to stay informed without doom-scrolling or martyring yourself.Then we shift into community as nervous system medicine — why “care in community” can still be exhausting when everything requires scheduling, childcare, money, or effort — and why Julie is fiercely committed to creating third spaces (game night, book club, analog friendship). There’s also a sweet detour into the dog-mom corner (Aspen: professional screen-time interventionist).Finally, she brings it into Swim Practice + Swim Meet: easy “fed is best” nourishment in a full season, what’s on repeat in her headphones, what she’s reading, random facts you didn’t ask for, a big personal win (her memoir officially heading to developmental edit), and what’s firing her up — including protecting women’s sports and calling out a missing conversation in perimenopause: low energy availability / RED-S in athletic, driven women who are being sold one-size-fits-all menopause advice.This episode is a permission slip to be a messy human in process… and still be a powerful, world-changing woman.06:29 — Urgency, Capitalism, and Why You Feel Like You’re Always Behind12:33 — Sink Into the Deep End: When Your Body Doesn’t Believe Your “Image”37:37 — It’s a Team Effort: Loneliness, Co-Regulation, and Building Third Spaces50:07 — Swim Practice: “Fed Is Best,” Soundtracks, Book Club, and Random Joy01:08:11 — Swim Meet: What I’m Fighting For (Women’s Sports + RED-S in Perimenopause)Tap here for Petition to Support Marshall University Swim & DiveIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

If you’re a highly sensitive being, neurodivergent, or introverted… and you find big, stimulating events hard but don’t want to avoid “peopling” altogether, this episode is for you.If you've ever left a conference, alumni weekend, wedding, or “inspiring” networking event feeling like you need 72 hours alone in a dark room… and you then start wondering what’s wrong with you because everyone else seems to bounce back, return to normal life, and handle it just fine -- welcome! You're in the right place.In this episode, Julie unpacks what’s actually happening when your nervous system starts waving the little white flag in big, overstimulating environments — especially for high-achieving, highly attuned women who are used to “handling it”… that is, until their body says (or screams), "Nope! You’re done!"You’ll hear a real, candid story from a recent event Julie attended, contrasted with a different event: in one of them, she honors her nervous system really well — and in the other, she crashes and burns. She walks through what it looked like for her body to speak up, what it felt like to listen to it, and what it felt like to grapple with a decision that worked against it. And yes: she highlights the very relatable tug-of-war between “I want meaningful connection” and “I’m past capacity and need to course correct.”If you’re building a life or career where you want to honor your body, your soul, your spirit — while also harnessing your ambition and your desire to be around other people — this episode offers real and refreshing ways to navigate it without micromanaging yourself, avoiding people, all while trusting and honoring your body's cues and desires.00:00 — Overstimulation + why “big events” hit different05:35 — The invisible social rules women are navigating (and exhausted by) in big social spaces08:07 — “Don’t care what people think” is a lie (and what’s actually true)13:19 — Resilience isn’t staying regulated — it’s meeting the returning to yourself15:20 — The “Mullet Method”: friendship first, business second30:48 — Your body’s signals are invitations: jaw pain, appetite loss, nausea, and the flight urge42:54 — Integration after the meltdown: turning dysregulation into wisdomIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

You’ve started talking about coaching.Maybe you’ve taken a certification. Maybe you’ve signed a few clients. Maybe you’re posting about it online. Maybe you’re still seeing patients “for now.”And yet — you don’t feel fully in.In this episode, Julie unpacks the real reason so many ambitious women in healthcare struggle to move completely into the coaching lane — even when they know they’re capable. It’s rarely about skill. It’s rarely about intelligence. And it’s almost never about needing “one more training.”You’ll hear:Why the clinician-to-coach shift feels harder than it looks from the outsideWhat keeps you hovering in the “almost” stageThe practical difference between clinician and coach — and why clients respond differentlyWhy credentials don’t automatically create confidenceThe mindset shift that allows coaching to become profitable, scalable, and alignedIf you’ve been circling coaching but haven’t fully claimed it yet, this conversation will likely show you exactly where you are in the transition — and why it makes sense that you’re there.And if you listen and realize, “Okay… this is me. I’m in the in-between and I don’t want to stay here,” that’s usually a sign you don’t need more information — you need clarity and support.If that’s the case, you can explore a Soul Story Mapping session in the show notes. It’s a private, working session (not a discovery call) where we map what’s true for you right now — your identity, your business direction, and what’s actually keeping you tethered. You don’t have to decide anything afterward. Sometimes seeing the full picture is enough to shift everything.Either way — you’re not behind. You’re not confused. You’re mid-transition.And that’s a powerful place to be.If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

This is the first interview of Sink & Swim 2026, and Julie kicks off Season 2 with Dr. Brianne Grogan (“Dr. Bri”)—a pelvic health PT known for a massive YouTube presence who just made a wildly brave move: she stopped creating for that channel (December 2025), not because she stopped caring, but because she outgrew the role.Together, they talk in real time—not from a polished “I’ve arrived” place—about what it’s like to be mid–identity shift: secrecy vs. self-expression, rule-following vs. nuance, and the grief of outgrowing old clients, colleagues, and belonging. Bri shares her emerging identity as a Body Medicine Journey Facilitator—where medicine meets magic—and why “weirdness” is often self-judgment wearing a familiar voice.They also go deep into what modern care often misses: intimacy, safety, and presence. Bri names how her work is returning to in-person, hands-on care in her “healing house” in Bend, Oregon—rooted, luxurious, and profoundly human. The episode closes with an embodied mini-practice for anyone feeling a quiet nudge toward something truer—without pressure to leap.03:49 — From YouTube Sensation to the Threshold Introducing Dr. Breanne Grogan and the moment she realized she’d outgrown her public pelvic health identity.07:11 — Life in the Healing House Empty nesting, relocation, and why place, home, and rooting matter in identity shifts.10:01 — “Body Medicine Journey Facilitator” Outgrowing traditional pelvic health and naming work where medicine meets magic.14:39 — December 2025: Choosing to Stop Ending a 15-year YouTube chapter, resentment as information, and reclaiming agency.18:06 — Rule Followers, Black-and-White Thinking, and the Messy Middle Straight-A conditioning, safety through rigidity, and learning to integrate “both.”24:10 — Weirdness, Woo, and Inherited Stories Family narratives, self-judgment, and realizing the chains were never real.34:31 — Grief, Belonging, and Outgrowing the PT Role Leaving clients and colleagues without betrayal; sister wounds and exile.46:17 — Collapse, Business Divorce, and Clarity The implosion that revealed what she can do—and what she no longer wants to carry.1:04:20 — Water Balloons & Willow TreesWhat freedom actually feels like in the body, rooted expansiveness, and a closing practice for listening without pressure.Love what you hear? Keep up with Dr. Bri on IG @vibrantpelvichealthIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Welcome to the very first Notes from a Fart Walk—a monthly digest episode inside Sink & Swim where nothing has to be polished, optimized, or resolved to be worth sharing.This episode is an invitation to metabolize life in real time. Not with hot takes, diagnoses, or “here’s what you should do”—but with honesty, humor, and a body-led pace that lets things stay half-formed. Julie shares why “fart walking” (moving, processing, and sometimes being a little messy with a witness) is her response to urgency culture, performative wisdom, and the pressure to always be the expert—especially for high-achieving women in healthcare, law, corporate, and entrepreneurial spaces.You’ll hear Julie sink into her own inner world—naming recovering good-girl conditioning, the fear of making waves, and what it feels like to reclaim her voice without needing agreement. She explores the shift from being the internal “wellness manager” to actually experiencing her life, especially in winter, when the body is wired to slow down, not optimize.This isn’t a teaching episode. It’s not a manifesto. It’s a walk.00:58 — Orientation: how to listen with your body (without fixing, analyzing, or optimizing)09:08 — What a “Fart Walk” actually is: creating space for unpolished, in-process life on the internet13:54 — Why digestion matters more than consumption in a loud, urgent, certainty-obsessed world27:47 — Sink Into the Deep End: Recovering Good Girl conditioning, palatability, and the fear of making waves35:59 — Sink Into the Deep End: What feels stinky right now—letting go of urgency, optimization, and inherited narratives42:48 — Sink Into the Deep End: Listening to your body in winter (slowing down, seasonal rhythms, and the “speed of love”)47:14 — It’s a Team Effort: Friendship starvation, transactional connection, and why millennial women feel lonely despite success52:31 — Swim Practice → Swim Meet: Turning inner truth into real life—values, nourishment, identity, and contribution57:53 — Nourishment in perimenopause: carbs, energy, and unsubscribing from wellness culture fear01:07:34 — Delight without purpose: maps, geology, and why unexpected connection mattersIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Season 1 Wrapped … and now it’s time for Season✌️Cheers to the beautiful souls who breathed life into this baby.Head to your fave pod player to catch up on Szn 1 now — because Szn 2 comes in hot in February!If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

When you’ve built a life that looks successful on paper but still feels like a tight corset, reinvention can feel like both rebellion and relief. In this candid, laughter-filled, deeply honest conversation, Julie sits down with her longtime friend and fellow former PT, TaVona Boggs — Master Certified Coach, fractional CRO, and host of Breaking Protocol — to explore what happens when your identity, career, and even your literal voice all demand a new evolution.Together, they unpack:The bravery of letting go when something no longer fitsThe “niche switcher” wound and how it weaponizes multidimensionalityThe body’s role in reinvention (including losing her voice for 10 weeks)The grief and power of midlife, perimenopause, and changing identitiesWhy athletes often make the best entrepreneurs — and how pain tolerance, curiosity, and trust build resilienceEqual parts practical and soulful, this episode is a permission slip for every high-achieving woman afraid that changing direction means starting over. As TaVona reminds us:“You can’t listen to the world. You have to listen to yourself.”03:15 – Letting Go and Being a ‘Niche Switcher’ 07:28 – Reinvention and Becoming a Fractional CRO 12:10 – Listening to Yourself Over the World 15:15 – The Rule-Breaker’s Defiance 20:21 – The Right of Exile 24:36 – Losing Her Voice: When the Body Speaks 29:02 – Titrating Truth & Reclaiming the Voice 33:12 – Joy, Aliveness & Counter-Culture 36:23 – Enter the CRO Era 43:05 – The Athlete Archetype 46:23 – Identity, Loss & Integration 56:24 – Closing Reflections Love what you hear? Learn more from Tavona at @tavonadenise on IGIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

When bestselling author and publishing mentor Elizabeth Lyons joins Julie for a conversation about trusting your voice, what unfolds is a deeply human, hilarious, and refreshingly honest look at the creative process—from loosening the “Conformity Corset” to navigating self-doubt, self-trust, and sourdough starters. Together they explore what it really takes to write (and live) in your own voice—without needing Oprah’s approval or a book deal to prove it.00:00 – “Breaking News & Beginnings” Julie shares breaking news — she’s finished her first book draft (!!) — and introduces Elizabeth Lyons, six-time author, mentor, and queen of saying the quiet parts of the creative process out loud.06:45 – “The Responsibility of Storytelling” A deep dive into the ethics of memoir: how to revisit truth without re-traumatizing yourself or your reader, and why every powerful story has to “land the plane.”12:48 – “What Every Aspiring Author Should Know” Elizabeth debunks the biggest myths in publishing — from “write a book in a weekend” to “everyone else has it figured out” — and shares her real-world wisdom on patience, process, and staying power.17:15 – “From Editor to Author: The Art of Self-Trust” How to trust your voice when doubt creeps in, why creative insecurity is actually a sign of integrity, and what happens when you stop trying to “do writing right.”27:40 – “The Brené Brown Fantasy: Publishing Realities & Industry Illusions” A truth-bomb conversation about traditional vs. indie publishing, why The Today Show doesn’t sell books, and how chasing visibility can strangle your creative joy.43:50 – “Loosening the Conformity Corset” Elizabeth gets raw about unlearning people-pleasing, learning to feel safe being herself, and surrounding herself with people who let her breathe — not bind.57:40 – “Future You, Present Peace” Her signature practice: journaling as “future you.” How it rewires self-trust, softens anxiety, and helps her move through creative life with more ease and humor.1:06:20 – “The Sourdough Era & The Permission to Begin Again” They close with laughter, carbs, and creative metaphor — from sourdough starters and Highland cows to the tattoo that reminds us all: you can always begin again.Love what you hear and want to learn more from Elizabeth?Check out her website www.elizabethlyons.com and follow her on instagram @elizabethlyonsauthorIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Nervous System Regulation is having its moment, and we love that for it. But what if regulation isn’t about staying calm, but about reclaiming flexibility, boundaries, and embodied strength as a sensitive high-achiever?In this episode, Julie reconnects with longtime friend and Somatic Experiencing® practitioner Audrey Burke to explore what real nervous-system “regulation” is (hint: it’s flexibility, not monk-on-a-mountaintop calm). Audrey traces her path from dancer/yoga teacher to trauma-informed touch work, unpacking why co-regulation and consent-based touch can complete stress cycles when talking can’t. Together they name the difference between embodiment and “moving without being in your body,” the balance of internal/external locus of control, and how sensitive, intuitive women can build boundaries without abandoning compassion. Audrey shares practical boundary practices (the yarn exercise, push-hands “I can” reps), reframes healthy aggression as protecting life-force, and explains why titration beats catharsis. Julie weaves in the Conformity Corset, parts-work in coaching, and the both/and of mobilization and rest. They close with real-life community building beyond “pay-to-play,” and the advice they’d give their younger, hyper-capable selves: trust your body’s cues—and let that be enough.From Movement to Embodiment — 01:03 Audrey’s journey from dancer and yoga teacher to Somatic Experiencing® Practitioner — and the difference between moving your body vs. being in your body.The Power of Touch — 03:23 Why touch can be a missing piece in trauma healing and regulation, and how it differs from talk therapy or manual therapy.Redefining Regulation — 08:01 Unpacking misconceptions about regulation (it’s not endless calm), and reclaiming fight/flight energy as part of a flexible, responsive nervous system.Context, Culture & the Nervous System — 11:32 Exploring locus of control, trauma, and how regulation can’t be separated from culture, systems, and social context.Boundaries & Sensitivity — 43:13 Somatic practices like the yarn circle and relationship mapping, the challenges of being a highly sensitive person, and reframing boundaries as acts of care.Reclaiming Healthy Aggression — 56:29 How suppressed fight responses impact safety, and how titrated exercises help sensitive people feel both strong and relaxed at the same time.Belonging & Community — 1:08:19 Turning 40, moving back to Durham, longing for non-monetized circles, and building community rooted in secure, ongoing relationships.Love what you hear from Audrey and want to leaIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

In this heartfelt and powerful episode of Sink and Swim, Julie sits down with one of her oldest friends and PT school classmates, Dr. Kate Mihevc Edwards—a renowned running medicine specialist, clinic founder, author, and entrepreneur.Kate shares the life-altering moment when her body forced her to stop mid-run, igniting a years-long journey through misdiagnoses, identity loss, and ultimately the discovery of a rare genetic heart condition. Together, Julie and Kate reflect on the irony of being healthcare providers who ignored their own bodies, the devastating unraveling of an athletic identity, and the courage it takes to rebuild life and purpose on new terms.From launching her own clinic to building the RunSource app, writing books, and raising her son while navigating his inherited genetic risk, Kate has turned her crisis into a blueprint for healing and integrative care that blends science and soul. Their conversation weaves together laughter, tears, and hard-earned wisdom about agency, boundaries, motherhood, entrepreneurship, and the unexpected beauty of slowing down.00:00 – Old Friends, New ConversationMeet Kate, her laughter, and her unique blend of science and soul.02:41 – The Run That Changed EverythingKate recounts the terrifying moment of going into ventricular tachycardia on a neighborhood run.06:34 – Misdiagnoses, Identity Loss, and Finally the Truth Nine months of tests, dismissals, and finally a diagnosis of arrhythmogenic cardiomyopathy.13:47 – Agency in the Face of Medicine Why Kate said “no” to immediate surgery and chose to make decisions on her own terms.15:39 – Leaving the Job, Building Precision How a toxic clinic environment and personal health crisis pushed Kate to start her own practice.28:18 – From Clinic to Community Impact Growing Precision, collaborating with the Atlanta Track Club, and creating the RunSource app.37:55 – Science Meets Soul Kate explains how her patient work, research, and new podcast bridge medicine with intuition and humanity.49:50 – A New Kind of “Retirement” Kate’s reimagined lifestyle of white space, boundaries, and putting her health first.56:17 – Lightning Round From eagle spirit animals to pineapple on pizza, Kate shares her quirks and hidden pleasures.1:04:55 – What She’d Tell Her Past SelfThe wisdom Kate would whisper to the version of herself still clinging to the Garmin data.Love what you hear and want to learn more from Kate?Follow her on instagram at @katemihevcedwardsVisit her website at If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

This one’s a sacred pause. If you’ve been feeling restless, unclear, or unmoored—this one’s for you.It’s a slow-down episode meant to meet you right where you are. Before we dive into logistics or client stories, I invite you to grab your tea, go for a walk, or settle in with a journal and let this be a moment to exhale.In this episode, I reflect on the tension of being in the “valley of becoming,” that strange in-between where what used to fit doesn’t anymore — but what’s next still feels hazy. I talk about why I believe this season of life is not a crisis but an awakening, how the Conformity Corset shows up when you’ve outgrown your old map, and why that uncomfortable tug in your body is actually a sign you’re right on time.I share why I created the 90-minute Soul Story Mapping session for ambitious, midlife, athlete-hearted women who’ve outgrown the old map but don’t want to torch their lives to find the new one. I trace my own pivots (swimmer → clinician → entrepreneur → Soul Story Guide), name the “Conformity Corset,” and explain why tension is a sign you’re right on time. You’ll hear two real-world vignettes—Holly (from “fine” to free) and Elena (manual therapist unlacing a gilded cage)—and I guide you through a brief somatic reflection to feel your next chapter. I close with a limited-time offer (two sessions for the price of one through Sept 2025) and exactly who this is for: women in healthcare, founders, and athlete-types in a midlife awakening who crave personalized, drop-in support.00:00 — Sacred Pause & What’s New: Why Soul Story Mapping exists05:15 — What It Is (and Isn’t): How the session actually works07:06 — My Valley of Becoming: Athlete roots, pivots, and the Body-to-Soul line11:20 — Who It’s For: Healthcare leaders, entrepreneurs, and athlete-hearted women (aka Midlife Awakening)24:19 — Out in the Wild: Holly’s “fine” → freedom arc (titrated change, real results)44:11 — How We Map: Session flow, Voxer support, and a guided visualization and drop in49:10 —Session Invitation  & Next Steps (link in show notes)Soul Mapping Session Website:Discover more & sign up for a Soul Mapping Session by tapping here.If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Pelvic floor PT and mom-of-two Dr. Jackie Roelofs (aka @drjuicyjackie) joins Julie to tell the truth about motherhood when the dream life and the day-to-day don’t match. Jackie traces her origin story from PT student with debilitating cycle-linked back pain and an “I-know-it’s-endo” hunch, through COVID-era diagnosis and surgery, to rebuilding trust in her body and becoming the mirror she once needed for other moms. Together they unpack identity loss after birth, nervous-system spirals, and why the goal isn’t perfect regulation—it’s surrendering to the mess and finding safety again. Jackie introduces her “unprogrammed program” for real postpartum strength (two minutes counts!), gives permission to care about aesthetics and grieve what’s changed, and coins the now-iconic Bad Mom City USA. The episode closes with a Swiftie lightning round and Jackie’s story of dragging herself to the Eras Tour in the thick of postpartum anxiety—how scream-singing became medicine—and the two whispers she’d give any mom in the spiral: trust yourself and you’re not alone.01:00 — A Love Letter to Moms + Meet Dr. Jackie09:58 — From a Knowing Nod to an Endo Hunch: Jackie’s Origin Story23:02 — COVID Pause, Diagnosis & the Pivot to Pelvic PT44:21 — Motherhood Identity Shift: Strategy vs. Surrender56:23 — The Unprogrammed Program: Grief, Body Image & Permission1:03:28 — Bad Mom City USA + Eras Tour: Joy, Tears & RepairLove what you hear and want to connect with Jackie? Follow her on Instagram @drjuicyjackie If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

The hardest part wasn’t cancer. It was what happened when I got better.This episode is part two of my 10-year Diagnosiversary reflection series — but instead of revisiting the drama of diagnosis and treatment, we’re diving into what came after.I’m talking about the identity shifts, relationship reckonings, and cultural patterns I began to notice when the casseroles stopped coming and the celebration faded. We’ll explore why people rally when you’re suffering but sometimes disappear when you’re thriving, how childhood bullying for “shining too bright” shaped my adult relationships, and what I learned from both being on pedestals and putting others there.I’ll share why I threw myself a shimmering Taylor Swift–inspired anniversary party, the hard truth about sickness as currency for belonging, and the rebellious act of staying fully alive in a world that often only claps for your comeback — not your continued glow.Whether you’ve navigated illness, career shifts, or just the lonely truth of outgrowing old dynamics, this conversation is your permission slip to celebrate yourself in every season — no pedestal required.00:00 — A Decade Later: Picking Up Where Part One Left Off 04:49 — When Pain Gets Applause but Joy Gets Silence 05:54 — The “Bejeweled” Party and What It Really Celebrates 10:12 — The Old Bind: Belonging vs. Being Fully Myself 14:20 — The Pedestal Problem: Gurus, Gatekeepers, and Growing Pains 26:16 — Sickness as Worthiness and the Disappearing Act After Healing 32:12 — The Price — and Freedom — of Living Fully AliveIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Episode Summary:In this deeply reflective and heart-opening episode, Julie connects with Megan Broadhead--a therapist, coach, and spiritual midwife who has undergone an extraordinary journey of personal and professional evolution. They explore themes of spiritual initiation, stepping into one's fullest expression, and the beauty of embracing both the human and divine within us.The conversation is a testament to the transformative power of trusting the process, embracing the liminal space, and leaning into joy. This episode is for anyone feeling the call to evolve beyond their current container, step into their power, and embrace the messiness of life as sacred.Chapters:00:00 – You’re Braver Than You Think (And Already Becoming Who You Are): Megan shares her experience of navigating infertility struggls and life transitions, including her deep connection with her community and the growth she’s witnessed in herself.04:31 – When a Gong Breaks You Open (Spiritual Initiation in a Room Full of Women): Megan takes us through a pivotal identity moment during a women's gathering in 2023, forcing her to question everything she thought she knew about herself.13:04 – Becoming Your Own Safety: Dismantling Transactional Containers: As Megan navigates this awakening, she reflects on how she shifted from external safety to becoming her own source of safety and support, and leaving behind transactional relationships for deeper, more authentic connections.22:44 – Mystic in the Making: When the Clinical Container Starts to Crack: Megan shares her evolution from clinical therapy practice to embracing a more mystical and spiritual approach in her work. She talks about how this shift reflects her growing awareness of the need for spiritual guidance in healing and how she’s blending the two worlds.29:30 – Pedestals, Power Loss, and the Cost of Being Seen: The conversation moves into the impact of pedestal dynamics and how stepping into authenticity often means shedding old identities and relationships that no longer serve. Megan opens up about the grief and the power that comes from letting go of old versions of herself and the people who couldn’t hold space for her growth.40:10 – From Fundamentalism to Full-Spectrum Freedom: Reflecting on her upbringing, Megan describes how she broke free from fundamentalism to embrace a more expansive view of spirituality. She shares how this shaped her understanding of Divine power and personal authenticity.57:41 – The Birthday Party as Portal: Reclaiming Pleasure, Joy & Your People: Megan celebrates how she created a space for women to gather, celebrate, and exchange energy without the constraints If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

In this deeply personal solo episode, I’m sharing the 10-year anniversary story of my cancer diagnosis—what I now call my diagnosiversary—and how it shaped the entire ethos behind Sink & Swim.Before cancer, I was the poster child for Western medicine and performance-based success: top of my PT class, working with elite athletes, constantly striving to optimize, fix, and keep swimming. But my body had other plans.This episode unpacks the full descent—from panic attacks to mystery illnesses, orthorexia masked as wellness, and years of doctors telling me “it’s nothing” about a mass in my lung that turned out to be cancer. But more than that, it’s a story of intuition, identity unraveling, and finally learning to listen—not just to symptoms, but to the soul story underneath.For anyone who’s ever been gaslit by medical providers, questioned their identity as a healthcare professional, or chased health info like it’s a job—this episode is a reckoning, a reclamation, and a love letter to your inner knowing.0:00:00 – The Real Reason I Started Sink & Swim 0:10:59 – When Science Was My Scripture 0:24:12 – Candida, Panic, & the Descent 0:38:34 – “It’s Not Cancer”… Until It Was 0:52:47 – Trusting the Whisper Over the Protocol 1:10:26 – The 10-Year Mark & Redefining Aliveness 1:24:01 – From Fixing to Listening — In My Coaching Work, TooIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

In this powerful conversation, Dr. Jessica DeJarnette — physician, startup co-founder, nervous system nerd, and wildly untamed human — shares her story of dismantling the life that looked perfect on paper: white coat, paycheck, purpose. But behind the scenes? Dissociation. Identity unraveling. A body screaming no more.We talk about the trauma behind burnout (yes, we name it), the grief of letting go of status and stability, and the radical trust it takes to follow your body’s wisdom — even when the path ahead is foggy.If you’ve ever found yourself resenting the very life you worked so hard to build — the business, the job, the family, the good girl persona — this one will crack something open.Because the truth is, healing doesn’t always look graceful. Sometimes it looks like walking away from everything you thought would save you. And realizing the only map forward is the one your soul’s been holding all along.00:00 – A Life That Looks Good, But Doesn’t Feel Right We open with what so many high-achieving women feel but rarely say: “I built this... and I’m still not okay.”06:49 – Emergency Medicine, Adrenaline, and the Breaking Point Dr. Jess reflects on her early career in the ER and when the pace of saving lives started costing her own.15:11 – “I Dissociated Through My 30s” She names what many women in medicine feel but can’t admit: the survival state that became her baseline.23:26 – From Inner Collapse to Inner Compass A slow, terrifying unraveling — and how her intuition (plus a stranger in Alaska) helped her walk away.33:28 – Nomad Life, Nervous Systems, and Building from Blank Page Leaving behind the house, the job, the plan. How she rebuilt safety and identity without a blueprint.44:01 – Why She Co-Founded a Trauma Healing Startup A deep dive into why our systems can’t heal trauma — and what she’s doing instead.59:13 – “I Want to Be a Forest Witch” On redefining success, reclaiming wildness, and why she’s finally letting herself want what she wants.Love what you hear? Itching to discover more from Dr. Jess?Make sure you're following her on Instagram at @jessicadejarnette_mdIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

You left the job, the marriage, the religion, the profession.You built the thing, became “the one to watch.”You built it. They came. It worked. It succeeded. You should feel free. Right?But instead… you feel trapped. The victim of your own success.In this solo episode, I share the raw, unfiltered story I usually only tell behind closed doors — of building a seven-figure business called Illuminate Freedom … that looked and felt like freedom at first but eventually, it felt like a cage. I tell the story of mislabeling the early signals from my body. Of realizing I’d shape-shifted into something “successful” that everyone I knew was clapping for, but no longer matched my Soul.This is for the woman who’s been clapped for with lots of eyes on you  — but doesn’t feel seen.For the high-achiever who built something beautiful — and now wants to burn it down.For the midlife luminaire who knows: you can’t swim in alignment until you let it sink.Intro: The Unexpected Trap of Success (00:00) Welcome to the story behind the story — the freedom you chase, and the cage you don’t see coming.Midlife Awakening & the Dissonance Dilemma (04:53) Why your body knows before your brain does — and how shame creeps in when your “dream life” doesn’t fit.You Can’t Heal in a Container That Wasn’t Built for You (09:29) Self-care isn’t always the answer — sometimes, it’s the cage.When Coaching Becomes a Conformity Corset (17:53) Leaving clinical life only to re-create the same dynamics in a new form.The Reckoning: “This Isn’t It” (20:14) The slow, quiet reckoning: your soul is no longer onboard.Bridge Time & Reimagining the Next Chapter (29:46) How I deconstructed a million-dollar business and created breathing room to find out who I really was.People, Purpose, and Permission to Pause (35:35) The deepest layer of the work: discovering who your people are now — and who you no longer need to perform for.If you're feeling seen by this episode and interested in discovering more -- join me for my virtual Summer Soulstice gathering June 25 -- for the woman straddling two worlds. One world you know "is NOT it." ...and one world you can't quite see, touch, taste, or feel yet. We'll help you sink in and find the grace and energy to navigate this liminal space -- all while harnessing the full bodied energy of summer to move with purpose and passion toward what's most soul aligned for you next.If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

What happens when the life that once defined you — the job, the highest levels of success, the relationships — no longer fits?In this deeply honest and heart-forward episode of Sink AND Swim, Julie sits down with Jesse Moore, former NCAA Division 1 champion swim coach turned soulful performance mentor, to explore the liminal space between identities, the grief that comes with real growth, and the sacredness of coaching done from the heart.From walking away from the pool deck… ...to navigating heartbreak and reinvention… ...to starting over in China guided by intuition… Jesse models what it looks like to sink into the deep end and swim with purpose.Expect real talk about: 💔 How the heartbreak of losing a dear friend and coaching mentor became the doorway to transformation 🏊‍♂️ Why coaching is about being before doing and achieving ... and how he strives to model that for the swimmers he serves 🌏 What moving across the world taught him about humanity ❤️‍🩹 and how grief — especially the kind passed down through the love of his grandmother — shapes how we show upThis one’s for the high achievers learning to trust the inner nudges and sink in to the pause.It's for the helpers who are ready to be witnessed, too.And anyone who needs to hear: you’re not alone in the rebuild.00:00 - Sinking Into Jesse’s Story  05:52 - When Love and Loss Crack You Open  13:28 - Rebuilding Without the Resume  22:34 - Coaching as Medicine, Not Just Metrics  32:09 - A Soul-led Move to China  42:18 - Nana, Grief, and What Really Matters  54:52 - Realigning With PurposeWant to be supported by Jesse?Discover more at www.coachjessemoore.com and make sure to follow him on instagram @coachjessemooreIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

In this continuation from Part 1 of this series, I share the raw, nuanced journey of identity transition that so many women in healthcare face. Whether you're still in the clinic, halfway out, or building your own path from scratch, I hope this episode reminds you that your transition isn’t a detour—it’s the work.This episode doesn't offer quick fixes—it offers permission to be in process, question everything & find your voice even when it shakes.I unpack what it really takes to leave behind the white coat identity & embrace a more expansive, integrated version of yourself. From the slow burn of transition to the internal friction of choosing a new path, this conversation is a balm for anyone navigating the messy middle.I talk about the patterns I had to unlearn for more capacity and presence & how honoring every past version of yourself becomes a portal to greater wholeness. I explore how my body signaled threat long before my mind caught up, and how tracking sensation & building capacity for discomfort support deeper transformation.I also get real about the final 3 reasons I won't go back to healthcare - which I believe are keeping many women from showing up authentically in their work.03:47 – The Journey of Identity Transition Leaving the white coat isn’t a single decision—it’s a slow, layered unraveling. This chapter explores the discomfort of not knowing who you are without the title, and why that in-between is where the real work begins10:06 – The Challenges of Choosing a Lane For multi-passionate women, "niching down" can feel like soul-compression. I explore how trying to fit into one box often leads to hiding parts of yourself that hold real power12:52 – Integrating Past Experiences into New Identities You don’t have to discard the old you to become the new you. This chapter is about composting past skills, titles, and patterns so they can actually nourish your next evolution18:54 – The Role of the Nervous System in Change Here, I reflect on how building capacity for sensation—not just pushing through—was essential in my transition. It's not just about courage; it's about learning to feel safe in new territory25:02 – The Hidden Truths of Leaving Healthcare Leaving a profession you worked so hard for can feel like betrayal. I name the grief, anger, and reckoning that come with stepping away—and why we need more honesty about it45:45 – Reasons 4-6 for Not Returning to Healthcare I talk about why I’ve chosen not to go back, even when I could, and how honoring this gave me access to a more authentic version of leadership and service01:06:31 – The Identity Shift: From Healthcare to CoachIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Ashley Sterken is the founder of Hive Ambition, a community that supports women in business to grow with clarity, confidence, and intention, most importantly, without burning out. This is a topic that’s really near and dear to my heart, having mentored women in business, especially women in healthcare business, for nearly 10 years now. Ashley has a background in speech pathology, and her long, bumpy and curvy path has brought her to leading and mentoring other women entrepreneurs. And one really cool thing we discussed that I think more women need to feel safe and have permission to say out loud is the true inherent isolation that comes with entrepreneurship and our drive and desire for friends; we talked about how it’s really okay to say, “I need more friends” or “The friends I currently have aren’t working for me anymore.” We talk about her unexpected leap to full‑time entrepreneurship and leading Hive Ambition—she knew all along it was coming, but then was pushed unexpectedly by the universe before her picture‑perfect timeline fell into place—and about balancing the masculine and feminine energies in your business and why it’s not a 50‑50 split for most people. We talked about why you can’t “spreadsheet your way through” everything and also why you can’t simply dream, manifest, and work on mindset stuff—you need both.We also highlighted the importance of conveying vulnerability as a leader and mentor, the brave act of listening to your inner voice before you’re in crisis and have no choice but to listen, and Internal Family Systems, something that’s really benefited Ashley as a woman in business and informs my own work with my clients and, of course, with myself!06:49 – From Speech Pathology to CEO: Ashley’s JourneyAshley shares her winding path from clinical work to leadership and entrepreneurship—and how Hive Ambition was born 13:02 – The Power (and Pain) of Community How connection heals the inherent isolation women feel in entrepreneurship, and the realities of navigating big transitions and unexpected pivots as a leader in community 21:52 – When Life Says “Pivot” … and you gotta go whether you’re ready or notFrom building a nonprofit after Hurricane Helene to realignment and learning to put it on pause—how Ashley took a brave step back even when what she was building was a good thing35:51 – Inner Guidance & The Loud NudgeHow and why to recognize your internal cues before a crisis hits, and the magic of checking in with yourself regularly48:44 – Building with Soul: Strategy Meets SpiritualityMerging masculine structure with feminine flow, redefining success, and reclaiming self-woIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

I interview Dr. Kelsea Cannon, who shares her journey from physical therapy to coaching, emphasizing the importance of bridging the gap between medicine and spirituality. We discuss the significance of emotional and energetic healing, the complexities of navigating the dark parts of personal growth – those “oh snap!” moments when you realize you’ve been carrying shame and guilt that’s been weighing you down.But the thing we discuss about shame and guilt is not what you might expect – instead of obstacles to be overcome, we discuss how they these often hidden and cast out parts of ourselves are actually  “golden doorways” to full authentic self-expression. A true sink AND swim opportunity.Kelsea beautifully discusses the importance of inward and outward connection and support, both in the physical realm and through your unseen team’s intuitive, spiritual, and personal connections.We discussed the constant need to be present to receive messages from the universe, the significance of navigating the tension of life's liminal phases, and the lessons learned from past relationships. Kelsea is such a beautiful model for how and why to let go of white knuckle gripping control and instead reveal the joy that can be found by trusting the process.Highlights:04:01 The personal and professional journey to bridge the gap between physical and spiritual healing18:32 The “Oh snap” moments: discovering the strength and golden doorways of your hidden and cast out parts in healing33:31 Navigating Vulnerability Hangovers and Authenticity in Self Expression42:54 How women don’t heal alone: engaging with both your Seen and Unseen Teams 55:35 Navigating the tension in relationships and the liminal spaces of life using intuitionLearn more about and follow Kelsea at @kelseacannondpt on instagram and check out her website at www.kelseacannon.comIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

In this episode of the Sink and Swim podcast, I share Part 1 of my story about walking away from the physical therapy profession when I was at the absolute peak of my career, and how choosing to sink a thriving career opened doors that never would have been possible had I stayed put. In Part 1 I reflect on the challenges and transformations I faced (and sometimes continue to face) when extricating myself from a career and professional identity, the negative impact of healthcare regulations on my ability to provide excellent care, and the not-so-subtle toxic dynamics among female colleagues and impossible pressures placed on on women and working mothers in the profession. 05:55 Reflections on Leaving Physical Therapy11:20  The draw to shift into coaching: a ripple effect is created29:45 The Not-So-Hidden Culture of Competition Among [Female] Colleagues41:27  The Pressure and Encouragement of Self-Sacrifice in Working Women & Mothers52:47 Navigating a Loss of Identity and PurposeIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Anyone who’s faced surgery or complex health issues knows the stress, pain, and long recovery. But what happens when you endure 18 surgeries and multiple health challenges over 10 years? When you find yourself crying on the bathroom floor, asking, “Why me?”Dr. Laura Ricci has faced these trials, diving deep into the emotional and spiritual lessons hidden in her struggles. Trained in healthcare, she once saw the body only as physical—but through chronic pain, body issues, and cancer, she uncovered profound soul-level lessons.She's gone from "why me" to "why not me?" ... and is a beautiful of example of how she helps others do the same.Now, she mentors others on their healing journeys, reaching the top of an essential oils company and empowering women through strength training. She also shares the power of self-compassion and forgiveness in her relationships.So grab your swimsuit, snorkel, and goggles—let’s dive deep with Dr. Laura Ricci.07:03 The Unexpected Gift of Transforming Pain into Purpose13:05 Neuroplastic Pain: Sinking Deep to Reveal a Way Out through Deconstruction & Reconstruction38:32 Reclaiming Space and Power as a Woman in Strength Training43:28 The Hidden Meaning in a Tube of Lipstick46:40 From Reluctant to Empowered: Laura's Unexpected Career Journey with Essential Oils57:06 The Power of Forgiveness, Self-Compassion and Growth in Friendships and Relationships01:03:43 Embracing Joy and Play in Work and in Life Keep up with Laura on Instagram @drlauraricci (and don't miss her glorious dance reels with her husband, Mark!)If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friendIf this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

This is the first ever interview guest for the Sink and Swim podcast and I am over the moon to interview the woman, the myth, the legend, and Luminaire muse behind this podcast: Parmees Yazdanyar, Parmees is not only a branding and messaging mastermind and genius in her company, NeuroBranding Academy, but she also fully walks her talk In this episode, she brings so much deep Sink AND Swim perspective to topics such as:07:22  The Paradox of Authenticity, Giftedness, and Success12:11    Coming home to yourself as an intellectual, multidimensional, talented and neurospicy woman by finding "your people"19:41   The dark side and brilliance that comes from fully owning your genius23:30 Myths and unexpected lessons in becoming a 7 figure business owner before age 3036:00 The rebellion of choosing integrity and the long game over what's fast and easy40:34 Redefining Wealth and Success: beyond income & external achievement46:32 The lost art of craftsmanship in entrepreneurship51:02 Letting go & trusting amidst long distance relationships & navigating complex immigration processes & trauma01:12:16 Emerging from Hibernation: New BeginningsIf something tugged at you when you listened in, don't forget to hit that follow button so you can hear more episodes just like this one, sharing this podcast with someone who needs to hear it, and leave us a review!Follow Parmees on Instagram @parmees__If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt

Welcome to Sink and Swim, the podcast for high-achieving, deeply intuitive, neurospicy, and multi-passionate individuals ready to break free from the narratives that have kept them playing small.I'm Dr. Julie Granger, and this space is for those who are done paddling furiously to stay afloat in a world that tells them to either sink or swim—when the real power comes from doing both.Each week, we’ll dive into powerful conversations—featuring stories of women who’ve embraced their soul’s story, navigated the dark and messy middle, and risen into the life they were meant to live.If this episode speaks to you, hit subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a friend👉Looking for more of where this came from? Sink deeper with coaching support from Julie and Book a Soul Story Mapping SessionKeep up with what's going on by joining the Notes from a Fart Walk Newsletter and don't miss an episode or updateWatch full video episodes and clips on YoutubeSocial Media: Follow Julie for clips, bonus content, and updates throughout the week. You can also shoot her a DM to connect!Instagram @drjuliegranger, Substack @drjuliegrangerLinkedIn  juliegrangerdpt