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To Immunity and Beyond
by Oxford University
In a series produced by the Oxford Immunology Network, Professor Paul Klenerman talks with colleagues about their recent ground-breaking publications, exploring the original scientific goals, challenges they encountered along the way, and future ambitions in the field. This series will be of interest to anyone studying or working in immunology, medical sciences, biology or related fields. NB: To Immunity and Beyond is for educational purposes only and should not be considered professional medical advice.
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The MRC Centre of Research Excellence in Exposome Immunology
A conversation with Professor Sheena Cruickshank about the new MRC Centre of Research Excellence in Exposome Immunology. To mark World Immunology Day, we’re joined by Professor Sheena Cruickshank from the MRC Centre of Research Excellence in Exposome Immunology. Sheena and Paul discuss how environmental and lifestyle exposures, from pollution to microbiome and socioeconomic factors, shape immune responses across the life course and contribute to disease. They explore the Centre’s integrated three-pillar approach, combining large-scale population data, mechanistic studies, and human experimental medicine to link exposure to immune function. The conversation also covers interdisciplinary team science, patient and community involvement, and how the Centre is building datasets and infrastructure that can support future discovery. Finally, they discuss the implications of climate change, eco-immunology, and how this work could inform drug repurposing, target identification, and evidence-based policy. The MRC Centre of Research Excellence in Exposome Immunology is supported by the Medical Research Council Centre of Research Excellence in Exposome Immunology [grant number UKRI/MR/B000935/1]. Further reading: • Sheena M Cruickshank, Kathryn J Else, Iris Mair, Holly Shiels, Susanne Shultz, How (Eco)immunology can augment global EcoHealth programmes: opportunities, needs, and challenges, Discovery Immunology, Volume 3, Issue 1, 2024, kyae015, https://doi.org/10.1093/discim/kyae015 • Markel Vigo, Lamiece Hassan, William Vance, Caroline Jay, Andrew Brass, Sheena Cruickshank, Britain Breathing: using the experience sampling method to collect the seasonal allergy symptoms of a country, Journal of the American Medical Informatics Association, Volume 25, Issue 1, January 2018, Pages 88–92, https://doi.org/10.1093/jamia/ocx148 • Community consultation on health, air quality and active travel in Hulme and Ardwick: https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/activities/community-consultation-on-health-air-quality-and-active-travel-in/ • Report of a case study in exploring barriers and developing solutions to encourage take up of active travel in Ardwick, Greater Manchester: https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/activities/report-of-a-case-study-in-exploring-barriers-and-developing-solut/
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Unravelling T-Cell Recognition – Insights from Immunology and AI
A conversation with Professor Hashem Koohy about possibilities for use of AI in driving forward T cell research. In the first To Immunity and Beyond episode of 2026, Paul Klenerman speaks with systems biologist Hashem Koohy, whose career journey from pure mathematics to immunology offers a fresh lens on T cell research. Hashem describes how advances in genomics, data science, and AI led him to focus on one of immunology’s central challenges: understanding how T cells recognise their targets, a process critical to infections, cancer, and immunotherapy. The discussion explores why predicting T cell–antigen interactions remains difficult despite vast datasets and powerful AI tools. Hashem argues that progress requires more than better predictions—it demands clearer biological concepts, realistic expectations, and data designed to answer the right questions. He highlights the importance of cross-disciplinary collaboration and calls for AI to be used not just to generate results, but to reveal the underlying rules of immune recognition. Further reading: T Cell Recognition Community LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/15319051/ Hudson, D., Fernandes, R.A., Basham, M. et al. Can we predict T cell specificity with digital biology and machine learning? Nat Rev Immunol 23, 511–521 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41577-023-00835-3 McMaster, B., Thorpe, C., Ogg, G. et al. Can AlphaFold’s breakthrough in protein structure help decode the fundamental principles of adaptive cellular immunity? Nat Methods 21, 766–776 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41592-024-02240-7 Hashem’s website: https://www.immunointelligence.co.uk/ ImmSilico: https://www.immsilico.com/
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HIV in 2025 - the latest science, global burden and future outlook
A conversation with Professor Andrew McMichael, Professor Tomáš Hanke, and Dr Fon Acho about current priorities in HIV treatment and prevention. In this episode of To Immunity and Beyond, we talk to HIV immunologist Professor Andrew McMichael, vaccinologist Professor Tomáš Hanke, and Dr Fon Acho, a Cameroonian doctor and Oxford MSc immunology graduate. We discuss the global burden of HIV, and the possibilities offered by current and future vaccines and treatments. We also explore challenges in research funding and the importance of community engagement in intervention uptake. Further reading: Chanda, Chama et al. ‘Safety and broad immunogenicity of HIVconsvX conserved mosaic candidate T-cell vaccines vectored by ChAdOx1 and MVA in HIV-CORE 006: a double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled phase 1 trial in healthy adults living without HIV-1 in eastern and southern Africa’. The Lancet Microbe, Volume 6, Issue 6, 101041. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.lanmic.2024.101041 Haynes, Barton et al. ‘Strategies for HIV-1 vaccines that induce broadly neutralizing antibodies.’ Nat Rev Immunol. 2023 Mar;23(3):142-158. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41577-022-00753-w
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Sustained aviremia despite anti-retroviral therapy non-adherence in male children after in utero HIV transmission
A conversation with Philip Goulder about the recent article ‘Sustained aviremia despite anti-retroviral therapy non-adherence in male children after in utero HIV transmission’. In this episode of To Immunity and Beyond, we discuss a prospective study of 284 children from KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa, who were treated very early with antiretroviral therapy (ART) after mother-to-child transmission of HIV. Unexpectedly, female fetuses were more susceptible to in utero transmission, but of 5 children identified who maintained undetectable levels of HIV despite unscheduled ART interruption, all were males. Distinct viruses were transmitted to males and females - females but not males being susceptible to type I interferon-resistant, low fitness viruses. These findings indicate the central role that early life innate immune sex differences play in HIV cure/remission in children. Full article: Bengu, N., Cromhout, G., Adland, E. et al. Sustained aviremia despite anti-retroviral therapy non-adherence in male children after in utero HIV transmission. Nat Med 30, 2796–2804 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-024-03105-4
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Regulatory T cell therapy is associated with distinct immune regulatory lymphocytic infiltrates in kidney transplants
A conversation with Fadi Issa about his recent article on regulatory T cell therapy in kidney transplants. In this episode of To Immunity and Beyond, Paul Klenerman talks with surgeon and immunologist Fadi Issa about pioneering regulatory T-cell therapy in kidney transplantation. Fadi shares his journey from reconstructive surgery to immune tolerance research and discusses the groundbreaking, first-in-human ONE Trial of T reg therapy in kidney transplantation. The trial showed promising graft survival rates, and found B cell-enriched focal lymphocytic infiltrates in the T reg treated group. Paul and Fadi also explore how current work with spatial transcriptomics will enable further insights into this mechanism. Full article: Oliver McCallion, Amy R. Cross, Matthew O. Brook, Conor Hennessy, Ricardo Ferreira, Dominik Trzupek, William R. Mulley, Sandeep Kumar, Maria Soares, Ian S. Roberts, Peter J. Friend, Giovanna Lombardi, Kathryn J. Wood, Paul N. Harden, Joanna Hester, Fadi Issa, Regulatory T cell therapy is associated with distinct immune regulatory lymphocytic infiltrates in kidney transplants, Med, Volume 6, Issue 5, 2025, 100561, ISSN 2666-6340, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.medj.2024.11.014.
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Ebola virus persistence: implications for human-to-human transmission and new outbreaks
A conversation with Miles Carroll and Oliver Meek about their recent Ebola virus persistence review article. In this episode, Oliver Meek and Miles Carroll discuss their recent review on Ebola virus (EBOV) persistence, set against the broader context of the West African epidemic. They share insights into how viral reservoirs form in immune-privileged sites and the immunological signatures linked to resistance. The conversation explores the implications of these findings on sexual transmission of EBOV, therapeutic development and strategies to prevent viral persistence and recrudescence. They also consider how these mechanisms may inform approaches to other emerging infectious diseases. Full article: Meek O, Fornace K, Carroll MW. Ebola virus persistence: implications for human-to-human transmission and new outbreaks. Explor Med. 2025;6:1001333. https://doi.org/10.37349/emed.2025.1001333 Further reading: Züst R, et al. Presence and Persistence of Andes Virus RNA in Human Semen. Viruses. 2023 Nov 17;15(11):2266. https://doi.org/10.3390/v15112266
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‘Dangerous Matter’: A New Opera on Vaccine Science, Memory, and Innovation
A conversation with Zakiya Leeming and Rachel Hindmarsh about the Thanks for the Memories project and a new opera. The Thanks for the Memories public engagement programme is about to premier a new opera, ‘Dangerous Matter’, at the Royal Northern College of Music on June 24th, 2025, inspired both by the story of Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, and by research into immune memory. On this episode we talk to composer Zakiya Leeming and facilitator Rachel Hindmarsh about how they developed the opera, and find out about their wider creative programme of science and music engagement with secondary school students. The project would like to thank the Wellcome Trust, who have supported the project through an Enriching Engagement Grant. The project would also like to thank researchers at the University of Oxford and University of Manchester who have supported scientific engagement throughout the project. Further reading: · Project website: https://www.immunology.ox.ac.uk/about/public-engagement/thanks-for-the-memories-t4tm · Zakiya Leeming article on the process of writing the opera: https://oxfordroadcorridor.com/medicine-memory-and-the-music-of-defiance/ · Dawn, on the Morning after the Storm - collaboration between Zakiya and the International Severe and Acute Respiratory and Emerging Infection Consortium (ISARIC) during Covid pandemic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0l3S04TfFY; Guardian article about the performance https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/jun/16/musical-composition-inspired-by-uk-covid-research-to-have-world-premiere · PRISM website https://www.rncm.ac.uk/research/research-activity/research-centres-rncm/prism/
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CMV serostatus is associated with improved survival and delayed toxicity onset following anti-PD-1 checkpoint blockade
A conversation with Ben Fairfax about the recent article: CMV serostatus is associated with improved survival and delayed toxicity onset following anti-PD-1 checkpoint blockade. This episode discusses Milotay, G., Little, M., Watson, R.A. et al. CMV serostatus is associated with improved survival and delayed toxicity onset following anti-PD-1 checkpoint blockade. Nat Med (2025). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-025-03647-1.
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Self-interactive learning: Fusion and evolution of multi-scale histomorphology features for molecular traits prediction in computational pathology
A conversation with Yang Hu about his recent article: Self-interactive learning: Fusion and evolution of multi-scale histomorphology features for molecular traits prediction in computational pathology. This episode discusses Yang Hu et al, ‘Self-interactive learning: Fusion and evolution of multi-scale histomorphology features for molecular traits prediction in computational pathology’, Medical Image Analysis, 101 (2025) https://doi.org/10.1016/j.media.2024.103437 The relevant study was supported by the PathLAKE Centre of Excellence for digital pathology and artificial intelligence which is funded by the Data to Early Diagnosis and Precision Medicine strand of the HM Government’s Industrial Strategy Challenge Fund, managed and delivered by Innovate UK on behalf of UK Research and Innovation (UKRI) (Grant ref: 104689/application number 18181), as well as NIHR Oxford Biomedical Research Centre. Views expressed are not necessarily those of the PathLAKE Consortium members, the NHS, the UKRI, the NIHR, Innovate UK or the Department of Health. The speaker would also like to thank the support from the Quantitative Bio-Image Group, led by Professor Jens Rittscher.
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Research with Human Tissue Samples on the International Space Station, with Dr Ghada Alsaleh
Research on human cells in space may uncover the hidden mechanisms behind ageing. Exciting developments are underway at the Space Innovation Lab at the University of Oxford! The launch of human tissue samples to the International Space Station marks a bold and forward-looking step in scientific discovery—one aimed at unravelling the mysteries of ageing. This pioneering research holds tremendous potential for unlocking transformative insights into musculoskeletal health and regenerative medicine, paving the way for future breakthroughs that could benefit millions on Earth.
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Analysis of the diverse antigenic landscape of the malaria protein RH5 identifies a potent vaccine-induced human public antibody clonotype
Dr Kirsty McHugh and Dr Carolyn Nielsen discuss a recent Cell article: ‘Analysis of the diverse antigenic landscape of the malaria protein RH5 identifies a potent vaccine-induced human public antibody clonotype’. This episode discusses the following article: Barrett, J et al., Analysis of the diverse antigenic landscape of the malaria protein RH5 identifies a potent vaccine-induced human public antibody clonotype. Cell 187 (5 September 2024). https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cell.2024.06.015 Article funding and acknowledgments: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009286742400655X?via%3Dihub#ack0010 The paper discussed in this episode is the product of six years of work with important contributions made by many members of Prof Simon Draper’s blood-stage malaria team, as well as key external collaborators. Dr McHugh and Dr Nielsen would like to thank all authors for their input, in particular Jordan Barrett as first author, Dimitra Pipini for antibody expression, Giacomo Gorini as the early phase project lead, Nathan Wright for the structural work, and Brandon Wilder for the mouse model. USAID was the major funder. Full author list: Jordan R Barrett, Dimitra Pipini, Nathan D Wright, Andrew J R Cooper, Giacomo Gorini, Doris Quinkert, Amelia M Lias, Hannah Davies, Cassandra A Rigby, Maya Aleshnick, Barnabas G Williams, William J Bradshaw, Neil G Paterson, Thomas Martinson, Payton Kirtley, Luc Picard, Christine D Wiggins, Francesca R Donnellan, Lloyd D W King, Lawrence T Wang, Jonathan F Popplewell, Sarah E Silk, Jed de Ruiter Swain, Katherine Skinner, Vinayaka Kotraiah, Amy R Noe, Randall S MacGill, C Richter King, Ashley J Birkett, Lorraine A Soisson, Angela M Minassian, Douglas A Lauffenburger, Kazutoyo Miura, Carole A Long, Brandon K Wilder, Lizbé Koekemoer, Joshua Tan, Carolyn M Nielsen, Kirsty McHugh* and Simon J Draper*. *Joint senior authors.
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Starvation and infection: The role of sickness-associated anorexia in metabolic adaptation during acute infection
Dr. Barbara Kronsteiner-Dobramysl discusses a recent Metabolism article: ‘Starvation and infection: The role of sickness-associated anorexia in metabolic adaptation during acute infection’. This episode discusses the following article: Jindal, J, Hill, J, Harte, J, Dunachie, S, and Barbara Kronsteiner, B, Starvation and infection: The role of sickness-associated anorexia in metabolic adaptation during acute infection. Metabolism 161 (December 2024). https://doi.org/10.1016/j.metabol.2024.156035 Barbara would like to specifically thank Ms. Jessy Jindal for the initial idea for this review. As part of her medical studies at the University of Oxford she wrote an essay about starvation and infection which inspired this publication. This work matured over several years and was shaped by all the co-authors and valuable input from reviewers and the editor until it reached its final version that is published now. We hope it is of interest to many and sparks conversation and new ideas for studies in this area.
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Optimising CAR-T cell sensitivity by engineering matched extracellular sizes between CAR/antigen and CD2/CD58 adhesion complexes
Professor Omer Dusk discusses a bioRxiv pre-print: ‘Optimising CAR-T cell sensitivity by engineering matched extracellular sizes between CAR/antigen and CD2/CD58 adhesion complexes’. This episode discusses the following pre-print: 'Optimising CAR-T cell sensitivity by engineering matched extracellular sizes between CAR/antigen and CD2/CD58 adhesion complexes.' Burton J, Siller-Farfan JA, Andre V, Jenkins J, Barton MI, Bustamante Eguiguren S, Cabezas-Caballero J, Davis SJ, Weikl TR, van der Merwe PA, Dushek O (bioRxiv pre-print (2025), under review). https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.01.06.631424v1 And references two related studies that provide foundational framework for the work: Using CombiCells, a platform enabling titration and combinatorial display of cell surface ligands, to study T cell antigen sensitivity by TCRs, CARs, and BiTEs Patel A, Andre V, Eguiguren SB, Barton MI, Denham EM, Pettmann J, Morch AM, Kutuzov MA, Siller-Farfan JA, Dustin ML, van der Merwe PA, Dushek O The EMBO Journal (2024) https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.06.15.545075v2 Inefficient exploitation of accessory receptors reduces the sensitivity of chimeric antigen receptors Burton J, Siller-Farfan JA, Pettmann J, Salzer B, Kutuzov M, van der Merwe PA, Dushek O PNAS (2023). https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.2216352120 A full list of contributors and acknowledgements can be found within each article. Additionally, Professor Omer Dushek would like to thank past and present members of his laboratory, including all co-authors of the manuscript, and especially his long-term collaborator P. Anton van der Merwe (co-founder). The establishment of MatchBio Ltd relied on technology to improve the sensitivity of CAR-T cells and technology to manipulate surface proteins directly on the cell surface (CombiCells) that included critical contributions from Jake Burton, Jesús Siller-Farfan, Violaine Andre, Michael I. Barton, Ashna Patel, Eleanor Denham, Edward Jenkins, Simon J. Davis, Sofia Bustamante Eguiguren, Jose Cabezas Caballero, Thomas R Weikl, and Johannes Pettmann. The founding of MatchBio Ltd relied on the expertise of Philip G. Jakeman (CEO) and the OSE Life Science Panel. The work has been supported by the Wellcome Trust (207537/Z/17/Z) and UKRI MRC (MR/W031353/1). Speakers: Professor Omer Dushek, Professor Paul Klenerman
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Apoptosis-mediated ADAM10 activation removes a mucin barrier promoting T cell efferocytosis
Professor Quentin Sattentau discusses research published in 'Nature Communications' on the role of enzyme ADAM10 in mediating clearance of apoptotic T cells by macrophages. This episode discusses Drexhage, LZ, Zhang, S, Dupont, M, et al. Apoptosis-mediated ADAM10 activation removes a mucin barrier promoting T cell efferocytosis. Nat Commun. 15(1), 541 (2024). http://doi.org/10.1038/s41467-023-44619-8 Article funding and acknowledgments: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-44619-8#Ack1 Professor Sattentau thanks Linnea Drexhage and Shengpan Zhang (joint first authors) who worked really hard and provided most of the data, Niloofar Karaji who discovered the initial phenomenon, all the other authors for their excellent input, and the MRC for funding the project.
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Elevated genetic risk for multiple sclerosis emerged in steppe pastoralist populations
Professor Astrid Iversen discusses research published in Nature, using historic genome data to investigate the emergence of genetic risk for multiple sclerosis in Northern Europe. This episode discusses Barrie, W, Yang, Y, Irving-Pease, EK, et al. Elevated genetic risk for multiple sclerosis emerged in steppe pastoralist populations. Nature 625, 321–328 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-023-06618-z Article funding and acknowledgments: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06618-z#Ack1 This study was international and multidisciplinary in nature, and Professor Iversen is grateful for the vital work done by Professor Willerslev, his group, and their collaborators. Professor Iversen also gratefully acknowledges the critical contributions of the shared first authors – William Barrie, Yaoling Yang, Evan K. Irving-Pease, Kathrine E. Attfield, Gabriele Scorrano, and Lise Torp Jensen – as well as those of fellow shared last authors: Daniel J. Lawson, Lars Fugger, and Eske Willerslev.
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In a series produced by the Oxford Immunology Network, Professor Paul Klenerman talks with colleagues about their recent ground-breaking publications, exploring the original scientific goals, challenges they encountered along the way, and future ambitions in the field. This series will be of interest to anyone studying or working in immunology, medical sciences, biology or related fields. NB: To Immunity and Beyond is for educational purposes only and should not be considered professional medical advice.
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