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Echoes & Edges
by Patria Rector
Echoes and Edges: The Broken and Beautiful Podcast is a storytelling and healing podcast hosted by Patria Rector — coach, mentor, and founder of The Broken and Beautiful. Through trauma-informed storywork, the Enneagram, and real-life relationship insights, Patria explores what it means to grow, grieve, and live with authenticity.Listeners will hear personal narratives, practical tools for emotional health, and gentle practices for self-awareness. Each episode invites you to discover beauty in the middle of life’s messiness — and to embrace your story with kindness.Perfect for anyone interested in emotional healing, self-discovery, relationships, or the Enneagram, Echoes and Edges is your companion for the journey toward hope and wholeness.Y
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Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 2 - The Stories That Keep Shame Alive w/ Daniel Herron (Re-Release)
Shame rarely survives alone. In this episode, Daniel and Patria explore the narratives, secrecy, and systems that protect shame from ever being questioned. They unpack how family stories, cultural expectations, and relational patterns reinforce identities that were formed long ago — often without our awareness.Daniel shares the painful realization that decades later, his “wild child” narrative was still being passed down through his extended family. Together, they discuss how narratives become embedded in systems, how secrecy develops as a survival strategy, and why so many people organize their lives around avoiding exposure, rejection, or disconnection.This conversation also begins turning toward healing: what happens when compassion, curiosity, and safe relationships begin disrupting the old story? What if the narrative you inherited was never the full truth about who you are?In This EpisodeHow shame narratives become generationalSecrecy as a survival strategyWhy systems resist changeThe relationship between shame and belongingIdentity fragmentation and moral injuryThe first steps toward challenging old narrativesConnect With Daniel: https://www.musathewild.com/Resources & AnnouncementsComing Home to Yourself — June Virtual WorkshopPatria is hosting a live virtual workshop, Coming Home to Yourself: A Journey Into Secure Belonging, on June 13, 2026. This experience is designed to help participants explore survival patterns, grounded identity, and secure connection with themselves and others.Register here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/coming-home-to-yourself-a-journey-into-secure-belonging-registration-1986430449949To learn more about Courageous Pathways and the work being done to support healing, growth, and transformation through nonprofit care and community support: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/courageous-pathwaysIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 1 - When Shame Becomes Identity w/ Daniel Herron (Re-Release)
In this opening conversation, Daniel Herron and Patria explore the hidden narratives that shape how we see ourselves, others, and even God. Together, they unpack the difference between guilt and shame, why shame attaches itself to identity, and how survival strategies formed in childhood can quietly follow us into adulthood.Daniel shares personal stories of growing up labeled as “wild,” while Patria reflects on the loss of identity that can happen inside systems that reward compliance over authenticity. This episode traces the roots of shame, emotional suppression, religious conditioning, and belonging, while offering a compassionate lens for understanding why so many people feel disconnected from themselves.If you’ve ever felt like something was fundamentally wrong with you, this conversation invites a gentler possibility: maybe your survival strategies were never the problem.In This EpisodeThe difference between guilt and shameWhy shame becomes attached to identityChildhood survival strategies and emotional suppressionThe impact of religious and family systemsWhat happens when authenticity threatens belongingWhy shame often functions as protectionConnect With Daniel: https://www.musathewild.com/Resources & AnnouncementsComing Home to Yourself — June Virtual WorkshopPatria is hosting a live virtual workshop, Coming Home to Yourself: A Journey Into Secure Belonging, on June 13, 2026. This experience is designed to help participants explore survival patterns, grounded identity, and secure connection with themselves and others.Register here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/coming-home-to-yourself-a-journey-into-secure-belonging-registration-1986430449949To learn more about Courageous Pathways and the work being done to support healing, growth, and transformation through nonprofit care and community support: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/courageous-pathwaysIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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What Actually Heals Shame with Daniel Herron
Awareness is powerful—but it doesn’t heal shame on its own. In Part 2, Patria Rector and Daniel Herron explore what actually begins to loosen shame’s grip and create real transformation. This conversation moves from insight → integration. Inside this episode:Why naming shame isn’t enoughWhat keeps shame narratives protectedHow to move from self-rejection to self-acceptanceWhy “white-knuckling” never works long-termThe connection between identity, safety, and healingWhat it means to become “uncontrolled by the system”Daniel shares a powerful framework for healing:Delight. Honor. Repair. And together, they explore:Reparenting yourself with what you never receivedReclaiming parts of you that were hidden for survivalWhy self-acceptance is the doorway to changeThis episode is about moving from:Survival → IntegrationShame → TruthPerformance → FreedomConnect With Daniel: https://www.musathewild.com/If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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The Story Beneath Our Shame with Daniel Herron
What if the way you see yourself… isn’t actually yours?In this conversation, Patria Rector sits down with inner healing coach Daniel Herron to explore the hidden narratives that quietly shape our identity—often without our awareness. Together, they unpack how shame forms, why it attaches to who we are (not just what we do), and how it becomes a powerful—yet invisible—survival strategy.This episode explores:Why shame feels like “something is wrong with me”The difference between guilt and shame—and why it mattersHow childhood environments shape identity and belongingThe role of secrecy in keeping shame aliveWhy behaviors aren’t the root problem—they’re the symptomHow narratives become embedded in families and systemsYou’ll hear honest reflections on:Being labeled “too much” or “not enough”The cost of belonging inside unhealthy systemsHow survival strategies become identityThis is Part 1 of a two-part conversation. In Part 2, we explore what actually helps shame begin to loosen—and how healing becomes possible.Connect With Daniel: https://www.musathewild.com/If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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When Your Nervous System Is Running Your Relationships with Laurie Proctor
Why do the same patterns keep showing up in your relationships—no matter how self-aware you are? In this episode, we unpack how dysregulation quietly shapes the way we connect, react, withdraw, and pursue. What looks like “overreacting,” shutting down, or conflict spirals is often your nervous system trying to protect you—not sabotage you. We talk about:How emotional triggers are formed (and why they feel so fast and overwhelming)The difference between reaction and responseWhy awareness alone doesn’t break the cycleWhat it actually takes to interrupt patterns in real timeHow regulation changes the way we experience love, conflict, and connectionThis conversation isn’t about fixing yourself.It’s about understanding what’s been running underneath—and learning how to work with it instead of against it.About the Guest:Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.Learn more about her work at sowthat.com. If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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The Healing Power of Creativity: Reclaiming Imagination After Trauma with Sher Nyquist
What if healing didn’t have to be forced… or figured out… or even put into words?In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Patria sits down with trauma-informed coach and Processing Trauma Out Loud host, Sher Nyquist, to explore how creativity—yes, even the simplest forms—can gently unlock healing. This conversation reframes art, imagination, and play as powerful tools for processing trauma, regulating the nervous system, and reconnecting with parts of ourselves that may have been silenced by shame, judgment, or survival. No artistic skill required—just curiosity.What You’ll Hear in This EpisodeWhy healing isn’t something you “fix”—it’s something you approach slowlyHow creativity helps access what words can’t reachThe surprising link between trauma responses and creativityWhy you don’t have to be “an artist” to benefit from creative expressionHow simple practices (like stick figures or color swirling) can unlock deeper memory and emotionThe role of the nervous system—and how art can help regulate itHow shame shuts down creativity (and how to gently move toward it instead)Why imagination is one of the most accessible and powerful healing tools we haveThe concept of “lavish tenderness” and why simplicity matters in healingKey TakeawaysCreativity is not about performance—it’s about expressionTrauma often compresses our sense of self; creativity helps expand itHealing happens in slowness, safety, and small, consistent momentsImagination is free, always available, and neurologically impactfulYou can “turn toward” difficult emotions instead of pushing them awayPlay, wonder, and curiosity are not extras—they are essential to healingA Gentle PracticeTake a moment and notice:What stayed with you from this conversation?If that feeling had a color, what would it be?Where do you sense it in your body?No need to analyze. No need to fix.Just notice.About Our GuestSher Nyquist Sher Nyquist is a trauma-informed story coach who integrates Narrative-Focused Trauma Care, somatic awareness, and simple creative practices to help people reconnect with their stories and themselves. She specializes in creating safe, compassionate spaces where healing unfolds through curiosity, imagination, and gentle exploration. 🎙 Host of: Processing Trauma Out LoudOne-on-one story coachingIntegration of creative practices + somatic awarenessEFT tapping (for those interested)📧 Email: [email protected] this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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When Dysregulation Shapes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor
In this episode, host Patria Rector continues the conversation with coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, and Enneagram instructor Laurie Proctor about the powerful role our nervous systems and internal parts play in shaping relationships. When we become dysregulated, connection often gives way to survival. Fight, flight, freeze, and collapse are responses that helped us endure difficult moments in our stories—but they were never designed to sustain healthy relationships.Patria and Laurie explore how unintegrated parts within us can create rupture in our relationships and how learning to regulate before responding allows love, empathy, and curiosity to lead instead of fear. Through personal stories, Enneagram insights, and reflections from Internal Family Systems work, they discuss how different people experience dysregulation in different ways—from outward reactivity to internal collapse—and how awareness can open the door to greater compassion for ourselves and others.The episode also widens the lens beyond individual relationships, exploring how the same patterns of survival and dysregulation can shape communities and even the cultural moment we find ourselves living in.In this episode, we explore:How dysregulation leads to rupture in relationshipsThe difference between survival responses and relational connectionWhy regulation matters before responding in moments of conflictHow Enneagram patterns influence our stress responsesInternal Family Systems and responding from “Self” rather than reactive partsThe role of empathy in restoring connectionHow personal dysregulation can mirror collective tension in the world around usReflection:What happens in your body when you feel threatened, misunderstood, or angry? Do you move toward conflict, withdraw from it, or collapse inward? Learning to notice these responses is often the first step toward responding from a more grounded and compassionate place.About the Guest:Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.Learn more about her work at sowthat.com. If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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How Inner Work Changes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor
In this episode, host Patria Rector welcomes coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, and Enneagram instructor Laurie Proctor for a thoughtful conversation about how inner work reshapes the way we love.Love is often spoken about as a feeling or an ideal, but in real life it is shaped by the stories we carry, the wounds we’ve experienced, and the patterns we developed to survive them. When those patterns remain unexamined, love can easily become reactive—expressed through control, withdrawal, defensiveness, or over-functioning. Drawing from Internal Family Systems, the Enneagram, and their own lived experiences, Patria and Laurie explore the idea that true transformation begins within.As we become more aware of the different “parts” of ourselves and the survival strategies they carry, we can begin to move toward what IFS calls Self-energy—a grounded, compassionate presence that allows us to respond with curiosity rather than fear. Instead of trying to fix or eliminate the parts of ourselves shaped by pain, the invitation is to meet them with understanding and integration. As this inner work unfolds, our relationships begin to change as well.Love becomes less about reaction and more about presence, empathy, and connection. In this episode, we exploreHow our personal stories shape the way we loveThe difference between reacting from wounded parts and responding from Self-energyInternal Family Systems and the language of “parts”How trauma and survival strategies influence relationshipsWhy integration—not perfection—is the path toward deeper connectionThe role of compassion and curiosity in personal healingAbout the GuestLaurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.Learn more about her work at sowthat.com. If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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The Arc of Integration (Part 2 of 2) with Adam Young
This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation with Adam Young — and it goes deeper into the places most of us were taught to avoid.In this episode, Patria and Adam turn toward sexuality, shame, anger, kindness, and integration — not as abstract ideas, but as lived, embodied experiences shaped by story, attachment, and the nervous system.If Part 1 laid the foundation, Part 2 enters the terrain.🔎This Episode Is For You If:You want to understand your sexual story without shameYou’ve felt violated without being touched and didn’t know whyYou struggle with anger, sadness, or shame and don’t know where to startYou want healing that includes the body, not just insightYou’re ready for kindness that tells the truth📚 Resources MentionedThe Wounded Heart by Dan AllenderAllender CenterAdam Young CounselingThe Place We Find Ourselves – Adam Young's PodcastMake Sense of Your Story – Adam Young's BookIf this episode stirred something tender, that’s not an accident.Stay with it.Healing doesn’t rush — it integrates.If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, start there.And if this conversation mattered to you, share it with someone who needs a safe invitation into their story.If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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The Arc of Integration (Part 1 of 2) with Adam Young
In this episode, Patria sits down with Adam Young — licensed clinical social worker, teacher at the Allender Center, host of The Place We Find Ourselves, and author of Make Sense of Your Story — to unpack the beginning of what Patria calls "The Arc of Integration."This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation exploring what it really takes to move from brokenheartedness to integration.This first conversation lays the foundation:Why we avoid our wounds.Why honesty feels terrifying.And why healing cannot happen alone.Part 2 will move further into attachment, relational repair, and what freedom actually looks like in lived experience.🧠 In Part 1, We Explore:✦ Brokenheartedness & CaptivityWhen something shatters inside us, we build ways of living that promise we’ll never feel that pain again. Those strategies protect us. They also enslave us. “Far more than repentance, we need the healing of the broken heart.”✦ The Mystery of HonestyWhy do some people pursue truth about their past… and others double down on denial? Quoting Eric Hoffer: “Far more crucial than what we know or do not know is what we do not want to know.” The question beneath everything: What do you want? How free do you actually want to be?✦ Why You Can’t Heal AloneTrying to make sense of your childhood by yourself doesn’t work — even if you’re intelligent, self-aware, and spiritually committed. What was “normal” to you may not have been normal at all. Healing requires reflection. Questions. Story shared in relationship.✦ “I Never Knew You.”A deeper look at Matthew 7 reframes spiritual disconnection. The issue isn’t religious performance. It’s relational exposure. If we never bring our deep desires and disappointments into relationship — with God or others — we remain unknown. And you cannot heal what you won’t reveal.🔎 This Episode Is For You If:You’ve done years of faith-based work but still feel disconnected from your heartYou’re beginning to suspect your coping strategies are also your captivityYou’re curious about story work but unsure where to startYou sense there’s more to your story than you’ve let yourself see📚 Resources MentionedThe Place We Find Ourselves - The Theory of Healing (Parts 1-3)Episode 24Episode 25Episode 26Make Sense of Your Story – Adam Young's BookAllender CenterAdam Young CounselingIf Part 1 resonates, sit with it. Don’t rush past it. Part 2 goes deeper. Follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges so you don’t miss what comes next.If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Finding Your Voice After Spiritual Harm Pt 2 w/ Kate Petersen, Stephanie Rose, & Stephen R. Sanders
Safety, Belonging, and Rebuilding Without Self-BetrayalIn Part 2 of Finding Your Voice After Spiritual Harm, Patria Rector continues the conversation with Kate Petersen, Stephanie Rose, and Stephen R. Sanders, shifting focus from silence to reconstruction—what it actually looks like to rebuild trust, belonging, and spiritual safety after harm.This episode explores the complicated terrain that comes after deconstruction. The group discusses how to recognize safe relationships, how to listen to your body and intuition again, and how to avoid replicating old patterns of self-betrayal in new spaces. They also name the grief of lost community and the fear that often accompanies starting over.Rather than offering replacement belief systems or quick fixes, Part 2 emphasizes discernment, pacing, and integration. Healing, they suggest, is less about finding the “right” spirituality and more about creating environments where your voice is respected and your boundaries are honored.If you’re learning how to belong without disappearing—and how to trust yourself without shutting others out—this conversation offers grounded guidance and compassionate honesty for the road ahead.Kate Peterson: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/kate-petersenStephanie Rose: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephanie-roseStephen R. Sanders: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephen-r-sandersIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Finding Your Voice After Spiritual Harm Pt 1 w/ Kate Petersen, Stephanie Rose, & Stephen R. Sanders
Silence, Survival, and the Cost of Telling the TruthIn Part 1 of Finding Your Voice After Spiritual Harm, host Patria Rector is joined by Kate Petersen, Stephanie Rose, and Stephen R. Sanders for an honest conversation about how spiritual harm often teaches people to silence themselves in order to stay safe, connected, or accepted. Together, they explore how spiritual environments can subtly—or overtly—disconnect people from their intuition, questions, and inner authority.The discussion names the ways fear gets spiritualized, obedience is rewarded over honesty, and silence becomes a survival strategy rather than a choice. This episode centers on recognition rather than resolution. Kate, Stephanie, and Stephen share insights into how losing your voice is rarely a personal failure, but often an adaptive response to unsafe systems. The group reflects on the emotional cost of telling the truth, especially when belonging has historically been conditional.Part 1 is about naming what happened without rushing toward answers. It’s about understanding why reclaiming your voice can feel destabilizing—and why it’s still the first necessary step toward healing after spiritual harm.Kate Peterson: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/kate-petersenStephanie Rose: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephanie-roseStephen R. Sanders: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/remote-collective/stephen-r-sandersIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Rising Together: The Enneagram and Relationships w/ Julie McClay, Steve McClay & Jerry Rector
In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Petria, founder of The Broken and Beautiful, is joined by her husband Jerry, along with longtime friends Julie and Steve McClay, for a candid roundtable on how personal awakening reshapes marriage and long-term relationships. The conversation centers on what happens after old roles loosen and familiar patterns stop working, but before new ways of relating feel solid. This in-between season—often quiet, disorienting, and emotionally unpracticed—is explored through the lens of the Enneagram, attachment, therapy, and lived relational experience. Together, the group reflects on how growth begins as an interior process before it becomes relational—and why relationships often feel the impact immediately. They discuss boundary confusion, emotional presence, grief, humor, repair, and the slow work of learning how to stay connected without fixing, managing, or retreating. Rather than offering quick solutions, this episode names the liminal space as a threshold—one that invites pause, honesty, and renegotiation of connection in marriage, parenting, and partnership.In This Episode, You’ll Hear:What “Rise With Us” means beyond hustle, reinvention, or self-optimizationHow the Enneagram can expose, amplify, or support relational changeMarriage after awakening: when old roles no longer fitHeart, body, and gut triad dynamics in long-term couplesWhy growth can feel lonely—even when relationships are deepeningThe shift from fixing and managing to naming discomfort and staying presentHumor, grief, and repair as essential relational toolsParenting, shame spirals, and why healing yourself matters more than perfect parentingWho This Episode Is For:Couples navigating change after therapy, trauma work, or spiritual shiftsAnyone using the Enneagram to understand marriage and long-term partnershipParents realizing growth can’t be outsourced to better behavior or systemsListeners living in the “not who we were, not yet who we’re becoming” spaceConnect with Julie McClayHeart Path Story CoachingIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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When Faith Breaks Trust: A Sacred Story - Part Two with Hannah May
Part Two continues the sacred conversation begun in Part One, turning toward voice, integrity, and life after spiritual harm has been named.Listener note: This episode includes discussion of spiritual abuse and institutional betrayal. Content is non-graphic but may be activating. Please listen with care.Host Patria Rector is again joined by Hannah May as they explore what comes after silence—after shame loosens its grip and self-trust begins to return. This episode centers the often costly work of reclaiming agency, setting boundaries, and choosing integrity when institutions cannot or will not change.Together, they reflect on accountability without repair, the grief of leaving faith communities, and the slow disentangling of God from systems that caused harm. Rather than offering easy answers, this conversation invites discernment, honesty, and courage.In this episode, we explore:Reclaiming voice and self-trustAccountability without apologyThe grief of leaving unsafe systemsFaith after institutional betrayalBoundaries, discernment, and integrityThis episode continues the Echoes and Edges 2026 theme, Rise with Us: Voices that Heal, Stories that Lead, inviting listeners into a deeper conversation about healing, faith, and post-traumatic growth.Connect with Hannah MayIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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When Faith Breaks Trust: A Sacred Story - Part One with Hannah May
Listener note: This episode includes discussion of grooming and spiritual abuse. Content is non-graphic but may be activating. Please listen with care.In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Patria Rector is joined by Hannah May, founder of Sacred Story Space. Hannah shares a personal story of spiritual harm and institutional betrayal within the church. Raised in systems that blurred obedience with holiness, she reflects on how suppressed intuition, unexamined authority, and silence shaped her sense of safety, identity, and God.Together, we explore ambiguous grief, nervous system impact, and the ways trauma lives on in relationships and self-trust. Through storywork, discernment, and reflection, this episode invites curiosity in place of compliance—and connection in place of isolation. In this episode, we explore:Spiritual harm and institutional betrayalAttachment, boundaries, and loss of self-trustAmbiguous grief and emotional regulationReclaiming intuition and inner authorityThe role of storywork, community, and personal rhythms in healingThis is not a story told for spectacle.It is a story held with care,Part Two continues the conversation, focusing on repair, resilience, and post-traumatic growth.Connect with Hannah MayIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Returning to Yourself After a Long Season of Disconnection with Janet Friesen, LMHP
In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Patria Rector and therapist Janet Friesen discuss the theme for 2026, 'Rise with Us: Voices that Heal, Stories that Lead.'They explore the importance of rebuilding connection with ourselves and trusting our inner voice, which is often suppressed by societal expectations. The conversation delves into the meaning of peace, recognizing unhealthy patterns in relationships, and the role of friends in the healing process. They emphasize the significance of self-reflection, choosing well-being, and creating personal rhythms to foster emotional health.The episode concludes with a reminder of the importance of community and curiosity in the journey of self-discovery and healing.Janet Friesen CounselingIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 9 w/ Ro Elliott
In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore the inner world of Enneagram Type Nines—the Peacemaker, Mediator, and Adaptive Presence—especially as the holidays amplify noise, tension, and unspoken expectations. They unpack how Nines instinctively move toward harmony through numbing, merging, or quietly disappearing, often in ways that go unnoticed by others.Patria shares personal insight as a Nine, naming how being physically present while emotionally withdrawn can become a survival strategy in overwhelming environments. Together, they explore why holidays can intensify the pull to fade out, and how healing for Nines involves gently coming back online—reconnecting with the body, the voice, and the belief that their presence truly matters.This conversation invites Nines to notice when self-erasure masquerades as peace, and to trust that engagement—not silence—is what actually creates harmony. A steady, compassionate companion for Type Nines navigating family systems, overstimulation, and the quiet work of reclaiming presence.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 8 w/ Ro Elliott
In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore the inner world of Enneagram Type Eights—the Challenger, Protector, and Leader—especially as their energy shows up during the emotionally charged holiday season. They unpack how Eights instinctively move toward intensity, take charge in chaos, and use strength as a way to protect what’s tender beneath the surface.Together, they name how control and decisiveness often function as a defense against vulnerability, and why emotional closeness can trigger an unconscious “wall up” response. They offer insight into the Eight’s deep testing of trust, their fierce loyalty, and the often-misunderstood tenderness that lives beneath the armor.This conversation invites Eights to notice when protection turns into distance, to become aware of the impact of their presence, and to explore how strength and vulnerability can coexist. A steady, affirming companion for Type Eights navigating family dynamics, heightened emotions, and the courage it takes to soften without losing power.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 7 w/ Ro Elliott
In this episode, Patria and Ro explore Enneagram Type Seven—the Enthusiast who seeks joy, possibility, and freedom. We talk about how Sevens use optimism and activity to avoid pain, why the holidays can intensify distraction and overplanning, and what helps Sevens stay present with both joy and discomfort.A thoughtful, encouraging conversation for Sevens and those who love them.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 6 w/ Ro Elliott
In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore how Enneagram Type Sixes experience the holidays—often scanning for what could go wrong, bracing for conflict, or carrying quiet anxiety beneath the surface. They unpack how vigilance and preparedness became protective strategies, and why this season can intensify fear, doubt, and emotional reactivity.They also name the deeper longing beneath Type Six’s caution—the desire for safety, trust, and steady support—and offers grounding ways to calm the nervous system, reality-check anxious thoughts, and reconnect with inner and relational stability.A steady, reassuring companion for Sixes and those who love them.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 5 w/ Ro Elliott
In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore how Enneagram Type Fives tend to move through the holidays—often managing overwhelm by pulling inward, conserving energy, or staying in their heads. They unpack how early strategies of withdrawal and self-sufficiency became a form of protection, and why this season can heighten feelings of depletion or disconnection.They also name the deeper longing beneath the Five’s retreat—the desire to engage without being drained—and offers gentle ways to stay present, share space, and participate on your own terms.A calm, thoughtful companion for Fives and those who care about them.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 4 w/ Ro Elliott
In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore how Enneagram Type Fours experience the holidays—often feeling a mix of longing, emotional intensity, and the sense of being “out of step” with everyone else. They unpack how early patterns of attuning to what’s missing became a form of protection, and why this season can amplify comparison, nostalgia, or the ache for deeper connection.They also gently name the longing at the heart of the Four—the desire to be understood and truly seen—and offers ways to soften into the present moment, honor emotions without getting swept away, and make space for grounded joy.A tender, insightful companion for Fours and the people who love them.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 3 w/ Ro Elliott
In this mini episode, Patria and Ro explore how Enneagram Type Threes navigate the holiday season—often feeling pressure to keep things polished, productive, and impressive. They unpack how early achievement strategies became a way to stay safe and valued, and why this time of year can stir anxiety, comparison, and the fear of letting others down.The also name the longing beneath Type Three’s drive—the desire to be loved for who they are, not what they accomplish—and offers gentle encouragement toward authenticity, rest, and presence.A grounded, compassionate companion for Threes (and anyone who loves them).Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 2 w/ Ro Elliott
In this short, supportive episode, Patria and Ro explore how Enneagram Type Twos often take on the emotional load of the season—giving, helping, and smoothing things over while quietly neglecting their own needs. They unpack how early patterns of caring became a protective strategy, and why the holidays can trigger feelings of obligation, unspoken expectation, or exhaustion.They also offer compassionate insight into the deeper longing beneath Type Two’s generosity—the desire to feel loved and connected—and shares practical ways to stay grounded, set gentle boundaries, and receive care rather than just offering it. This conversation is a warm reminder that love doesn’t require self-abandonment.A calming episode for Twos, and for those who want to love them well.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Holiday Support for Enneagram Type 1 w/ Ro Elliott
In this short, grounded conversation, Patria and Ro offer compassionate support for Enneagram Type Ones navigating the holiday season. They explore how the inner critic tends to crank up under stress, how perfectionism becomes a protective strategy, and why “being good” can quietly morph into pressure, resentment, or burnout.This episode offers practical ways Ones can soften into presence, release self-judgment, and make room for joy. Join us in this invitation to rest, breathe, and trust that goodness grows in grace, not perfection. A calm, clarifying 10 minutes for Ones (and for anyone who loves them.)Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Navigating Holiday Dynamics Through the Enneagram w/ Ro Elliott
In this conversation, host Patria Rector and guest Ro Elliott explore the Enneagram as a map for understanding the defenses, longings, and relational patterns that shape our lives—especially during the holidays, when stress and family dynamics tend to amplify our core reactions. Together they trace the nine personality types through their instinctive defense structures, naming how each type learned to protect itself, how these strategies can become limiting, and how awareness offers a path toward compassion and growth.From the perfectionistic vigilance of Type Ones to the deep emotional sensitivity of Fours, the cerebral retreat of Fives, the fear-scanning reflex of Sixes, and the exuberant escape strategies of Sevens—this episode offers a grounded, insightful look at how we show up in the world and why. Patria and Ro name the power of “compassionate witnessing”—being seen in our growth—and remind us that healing often begins with simple presence: trusting that we are enough, that our bodies carry wisdom, and that connection is still possible even in the most complicated relationships.This episode is a rich companion for the holiday season, inviting listeners to navigate stress, family systems, and their own inner landscape with clarity, humor, and grace.Connect with Ro Elliott:FacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsitePractice the Pause: A Mantra for Each Enneagram Type During the Holiday SeasonType 1 – The Reformer“ I can rest. Goodness grows in grace, not perfection.”Type 2 – The Helper“ I can give from love, not at the cost of myself.”Type 3 – The Achiever“ I am enough. I can be before I do.”Type 4 – The Individualist“ I can soften into what’s here, not what’s missing.”Type 5 – The Investigator“ I can step in and still stay whole.”Type 6 – The Loyalist“ I can breathe. Not every feeling is a warning.”Type 7 – The Enthusiast“ I can savor this moment without escaping the hard parts.”Type 8 – The Challenger“ I don’t have to guard myself—I can choose connection.”Type 9 – The Peacemaker“ My presence matters. I can wake up and take my place.”If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Navigating Holiday Family Dynamics w/ Shay Eveland, Daniel Herron & Carla Rousseau
In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Host Patria Rector explores the themes of healing, transformation, and the complexities of family dynamics during the holiday season with Shay Eveland, Daniel Herron and Carla Rousseau. They discuss the importance of understanding peace, navigating fear, and the role of love in relationships. The conversation emphasizes the need for self-acceptance, community support, and the balance between silence and truth-telling in fostering meaningful connections.Connect with Shay:FacebookInstagramWebsiteConnect with Daniel: FacebookInstagramWebsiteConnect with Carla:WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Toxic Power: Facing Exploitation & Manipulation w/ Kate Petersen & Stephanie Rose
In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Patria Rector joins guests Kate Petersen and Stephanie Rose todelve into the themes of spiritual harm and heartache, exploring the impact of religious systems on personal identity and the emotional toll of self-abandonment. They discuss the complexities of navigating trauma responses, the importance of naming harm to access grief, and the journey towards healing and reclaiming one's true self.Connect with Kate [email protected]@facebook.com@instagramConnect with Stephanie [email protected]@instagram.comIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Spiritual Disillusionment: Naming Harm, Finding Healing w/ Kate Petersen & Stephanie Rose
In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Patria Rector joins guests Kate Petersen and Stephanie Rose to delve into the themes of spiritual harm and heartache, exploring the impact of religious systems on personal identity and the emotional toll of self-abandonment. Together, they unpack the complexities of navigating trauma responses, the importance of naming harm to access grief, and the ongoing journey toward healing and reclaiming one’s true self.Connect with Kate [email protected]@facebook.com@instagramConnect with Stephanie [email protected]@instagram.comIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Building New Relationships & Choosing Wellbeing w/ Monica Aksamit
This is the second episode of a two part series on "The Cost of Connecting to Yourself."In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Patria Rector and transformational coach Monica Aksamit delve into the themes of personal growth, the importance of community, and the nuances of well-being. They explore the liminal space of transformation, the role of support in navigating discomfort, and how to build new relationships aligned with one's true self. The conversation emphasizes the significance of understanding anxiety as an indicator rather than a problem, and the necessity of community as a support system in sustaining personal change.Connect with Monica Aksami at The Broken & Beautiful WebsiteIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Redefining Identity & Having Hard Conversations w/ Carla Rousseau
This is the first episode of a two part series on "The Cost of Connecting to Yourself."In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Patria Rector and spiritual director Carla explore the profound themes of identity and connection. They discuss the costs associated with reconnecting to oneself, the disruptions that come with awakening, and the challenges faced in relationships as individuals evolve. The conversation delves into the importance of navigating the in-between spaces of transformation, recognizing signs of fluidity in relationships, and the necessity of course correction when disorientation arises. Carla leads a guided reflection, encouraging listeners to connect with their inner selves and embrace the journey of personal growth.Connect with Carla Rousseau: BioRelated Meditation Blog Post: A Meditation on the Gift of StillnessIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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"Type 6 or 9?" Enneagram Session Pt.2 w/ Stephen R. Sanders
In Part 2 of this behind the scenes coaching session, Patria and Stephen delve into the complexities of personality traits, particularly focusing on introversion and extroversion, the role of fear in personal experiences, and the dynamics of trust and authority. They explore the importance of self-awareness, the balance between optimism and pessimism, and the quest for authenticity.Please note: it is not normally acceptable to tell someone their type. Patria named what she believed was showing up over a couple of hours of interview time as well as years of work that Stephen has done. So please, if you are listening to this episode, don’t take this as education on how to do an enneagram interview. It takes time, intentionality and education to become certified in enneagram typing. The discussion touches on themes of insecurity, empathy, codependency, and the often-overlooked role of anger in personal growth. Through honest dialogue, Stephen reveals his desire to live with greater authenticity, grounding, and emotional presence.Connect with Stephen: linktr.ee/stephenrsandersstephenrsanders.comGetting Started with the Enneagram:Narrative EnneagramThe Emotional Habits of the Nine Personality TypesTypeologyWisdom of the EnneagramThe Complete EnneagramEnneagram 2.0If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.10: "Type 6 or 9?" Enneagram Session Pt.1 w/ Stephen R. Sanders
In this conversation, Stephen R. Sanders joins Patria Rector to explore his ongoing journey of self-discovery through the Enneagram, particularly his identification as a Type Nine. Together, they unpack the complexities of relationships, emotional awareness, and identity. Stephen reflects on how external opinions, career transitions, and past relationships have shaped his sense of self and connection with others.The discussion also touches on emotional habits and the Enneagram as a tool for personal growth, leading to insights about self-forgetting and the feeling of something missing in life.Connect with Stephen: linktr.ee/stephenrsandersstephenrsanders.comGetting Started with the Enneagram:Narrative EnneagramThe Emotional Habits of the Nine Personality TypesTypeologyWisdom of the EnneagramThe Complete EnneagramEnneagram 2.0If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.9: Double Nines: Marriage on the Enneagram (with Jerry & Patria Rector)
In this tender and insightful episode, Patria is joined by her husband, Jerry, for an honest conversation about what it’s like to be two Enneagram Nines in relationship. Married for over 30 years, they reflect on the joys and challenges of navigating life together as a “double nine couple.” From conflict avoidance to finding peace in their bodies, Jerry and Patria open up about how their unique differences shape their relationship — and how those patterns might resonate with your own story.Whether you’re a Nine yourself, love a Nine, or simply want to better understand relational dynamics through the lens of the Enneagram, this episode offers wisdom, laughter, and practical encouragement.Key ThemesConflict & Avoidance: Why Nines often struggle with voicing preferences, avoiding tension, or merging with others — and how Jer and Patria have learned to face those challenges together.Body & Intuition: How early family dynamics shaped Jer’s awareness of his body and Patria’s connection to her intuition, and the ways both contribute to peace.Speaking Up: The risks and rewards of sharing personal preferences — and why using our words can deepen intimacy and connection.Being Seen: Tender stories of moments when each felt celebrated and truly seen by the other.Conflict Transformation: How their understanding of anger shifted from something to avoid into a pathway to honesty and growth.Aliveness & Belonging: What helps them feel most alive, from adventure to belonging, and how showing up creates connection.Gentle PracticeTake a slow breath and notice your body.Where do you feel tension?Where do you feel peace or joy?Ask yourself: What is one thing I want today, just for me?Don’t fix, don’t analyze — simply listen.Reflection QuestionsHow do you experience the difference between peace and avoidance in your own life?In what ways do you hold back your preferences — and what happens when you speak them?When have you felt most seen or celebrated by someone you love?How does your family of origin shape the way you experience conflict and connection?Resources & LinksLearn more at thebrokenandbeautiful.comConnect with Patria through the website’s contact pageShare this episode with someone who loves a Nine or needs encouragement on their journeyClosing Reminder: You’re not too much. You’re not too late. You’re right on time.Ad Affiliate: Reclaiming HER Resilence with Robrenna ParkerIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.8: Raised to Obey, Learning to Choose (Interview with Stephanie Rose)
In this episode of Echoes and Edges, host Patria Rector engages in a profound conversation with Stephanie Rose, who shares her journey of navigating a coerced marriage, the struggles of her upbringing, and the path to reclaiming her identity and voice. The discussion delves into themes of resilience, empowerment, and the importance of trusting one's gut feelings. Stephanie reflects on her experiences of coercion, the challenges faced during her honeymoon, and the eventual realization that she needed to prioritize her own well-being. Through her story, she aims to inspire others to find their own voices and embrace their true selves.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to Healing and Transformation10:08 Stephanie's Journey: From Daughter to Wife24:12 The Dynamics of Control and Manipulation32:19 Understanding Choice and Responsibility33:02 Understanding Coercion in Relationships38:28 Navigating the Honeymoon Experience49:46 The Struggles of Early Marriage56:48 Emotional Assault and Its Aftermath58:10 The Journey of Healing and Ownership01:00:04 Rediscovering Inner Strength01:02:33 The Cost of Curiosity and Community01:07:24 Reclaiming Voice and Identity01:12:46 Empowering Others Through Story01:16:43 Finding New Communities and FreedomIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With Stephanie:Stephanie's BioInstagramIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.7: Navigating Attunement, Containment & Repair (Storywork Pt.2 with Christine Schuele)
In this episode, Patria Rector and Christine Schuele delve into the concepts of attunement, containment, and repair within the context of storywork. They explore how these elements play a crucial role in healing trauma and fostering healthy relationships. The conversation emphasizes the importance of presence over technique, the impact of unhealed stories on trust and love, and the significance of generational patterns in perpetuating trauma.Ultimately, they highlight the journey of reawakening faith, hope, and love as essential components of personal and relational healing.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Storywork and Attunement02:53 Exploring Attunement in Depth05:46 The Importance of Containment08:34 Understanding Misattunement11:37 The Role of Repair in Relationships14:29 Faith, Hope, and Love as Birthrights17:29 The Power of Presence in Healing20:27 Navigating Trauma and Relationships23:08 Generational Patterns and Healing26:09 The Journey of Reawakening Faith and Love📖 Resources & Mentions:The Allender Center – Narrative Focused Trauma Care Training: theallendercenter.org/offerings/trainings/1 Corinthians 13Dr. Dan Siegel – Interpersonal Neurobiology: drdansiegel.comRecommended Resources Page thebrokenandbeautiful.comStorywork Groups & Coaching at The Broken and Beautiful: thebrokenandbeautiful.comIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.6: How Our Stories Shape Our Perspective (Storywork: Pt.1)
In this episode of Echoes and Edges: The Broken and Beautiful Podcast, Patria introduces the practice of storywork, a narrative-focused trauma care approach rooted in the teaching of Dr. Dan Allender and The Allender Center.Storywork invites us to revisit stories of harm and heartache in order to uncover how those moments have shaped our understanding of faith, hope, and love. Through attunement, containment, and the repair of rupture, storywork creates safe relational spaces where our fragmented stories can be held, honored, and reimagined with truth and compassion.Patria shares:What storywork is and why it matters.How stories shape the way we see ourselves, others, and God.A tender example of childhood misattunement and its long-lasting impact.Dr. Dan Siegel’s framework of attunement, containment, and rupture repair as essential elements of healing.The transformative power of presence in story groups, coaching, and trusted relationships.This is the first part of a multi-episode series exploring storywork as a path toward restoration, resilience, and rediscovering the deepest truths of who we are.✨ Gentle Practice: Take a few slow breaths, jot down any memory or word that surfaced while listening, and ask yourself: What support do I need for this story?📖 Resources & Mentions:The Allender Center – Narrative Focused Trauma Care Training: theallendercenter.org/offerings/trainings/1 Corinthians 13Dr. Dan Siegel – Interpersonal Neurobiology: drdansiegel.comRecommended Resources Page thebrokenandbeautiful.comStorywork Groups & Coaching at The Broken and Beautiful: thebrokenandbeautiful.comIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep. 5: The Head Triad of the Enneagram: Types 5, 6, 7
In this final installment of our Enneagram triad deep dive, Patria Rector explores the Head Triad—Types Five, Six, and Seven—also known as the Fear Triad. These thinking-centered types navigate life through the lens of security, trust, and possibility, yet each responds to fear in profoundly different ways. From the Investigator’s pursuit of knowledge and privacy, to the Loyalist’s complex dance with trust and caution, to the Enthusiast’s relentless chase for joy and freedom, Patria unpacks their motivations, emotional habits, and growth paths. You’ll also hear from real voices of each type, offering candid reflections on their inner worlds. Whether you are a Five, Six, or Seven—or love someone who is—this episode will give you tools for deeper compassion, connection, and understanding.In This Episode:Overview of the Head Triad — why Types 5, 6, and 7 are called the Fear TriadHow each type processes fear through thinking, planning, or distractionCore fears, emotional habits, and common misunderstandings of each typeHow the same triad can produce such varied personality expressionsGrowth practices to shift from reactivity into presence and securityPersonal reflection questions for each type to explore with a safe personAuthentic audio responses from real Fives, Sixes, and SevensA gentle closing breath prayer inspired by Type Seven’s growth virtue of sobrietyIf this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.4: The Heart Triad of the Enneagram: Types 2, 3, 4
In this deep dive into the Enneagram’s Heart Triad—Types Two, Three, and Four—Patria Rector explores how these emotionally intelligent types navigate the world through the lens of feelings, relationships, and connection. From the Helper’s quiet fear of rejection, to the Achiever’s drive to prove their worth, to the Individualist’s lifelong quest for authenticity, you’ll discover the beauty, complexity, and growth paths unique to each type. With practical questions for reflection, insights from Enneagram teacher Beatrice Chestnut, and heartfelt contributions from real voices of each type, this episode offers both compassion and clarity for anyone who identifies with—or loves—a heart type. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: An overview of the Heart Triad in the Enneagram: Types 2, 3, and 4How each type responds to sadness and the role of emotional intelligenceCore fears, emotional habits (passions), and common misunderstandings for each typeGrowth practices and reflection questions to deepen self-awareness and connectionAuthentic voices from Type 2s, 3s, and 4s sharing personal experiencesInsights from Beatrice Chestnut on the strengths and blind spots of the heart typesA gentle grounding practice connecting body, heart, and mindGentle Practice for Today End the episode with a calming, self-affirming touch exercise to remind yourself of the goodness of your body, heart, and mind.Resources & Links Learn more about The Broken and Beautiful Collective: thebrokenandbeautiful.comFollow on Instagram: @thebrokenandbeautifulstoriesJoin the conversation on Facebook: The Broken and Beautiful LLCIf this episode resonated with you, follow or subscribe on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with someone who might need a little more light today.If you’d like, I can also create a series-wide Enneagram episode template so every future type-focused episode (like the Head Triad) has consistent description and show notes formatting. That way, it stays brand-consistent and easy for you to publish.If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.3: The Body Triad of the Enneagram: Types 8, 9, 1
In this episode of Echoes and Edges: The Broken and Beautiful Podcast, we step into the Enneagram’s Body Triad — Types Eight, Nine, and One — also known as the Gut Triad. These types lead with their instincts, carry a deep relationship to anger, and hold a profound need for autonomy.We’ll explore how each type experiences anger differently, the unique fears and misunderstandings they face, and the relational patterns that can keep them stuck. You’ll hear from real Eights, Nines, and Ones as they respond to type-specific questions, offering personal insight into how they navigate vulnerability, conflict, and self-criticism.Whether you identify with one of these types or love someone who does, this episode will help you see the Body Triad with greater depth, compassion, and understanding.If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.2: The Enneagram as a Healing Tool
The Enneagram is more than a personality test — it’s a compassionate map of why we think, feel, and act the way we do. In this episode of Echoes and Edges: The Broken and Beautiful Podcast, host Patria Rector explores how the Enneagram can be used as a powerful healing modality.We’ll look at the ways our early life experiences shaped the strategies we use to stay safe and connected, and how bringing awareness to those patterns can lead to profound transformation. When combined with storywork and relational care, the Enneagram becomes less about “fixing” yourself and more about finding freedom to be.If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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Ep.1: My Unexpected Journey Through Grief
In this first episode of Echoes and Edges: The Broken and Beautiful Podcast, Patria Rector invites you into a tender and honest conversation about the heart of this space: the belief that you are enough, just as you are. Through personal story, the wisdom of the Enneagram, and the transformative power of storywork, Patria explores how understanding our patterns and reclaiming our voice can move us from simply surviving to truly connecting — with ourselves, with others, and with God. You'll learn how the Enneagram can be a compassionate guide rather than a label, why revisiting our stories matters for healing, and how we can begin building secure relationships — starting with the one we have with ourselves. In this episode:Why “enoughness” is the foundation for growthHow the Enneagram reveals the strategies we use to feel safeThe role of storywork in understanding our patternsSimple ways to start moving toward secure connectionA reflection prompt to help you explore your own storyReflection Prompt: What story do you tell yourself about who you need to be to be loved? Where did that story begin? If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.Connect With PatriaFacebookInstagramThe Broken & Beautiful WebsiteCredits:Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. SandersMusic Promoted by EnvatoEchoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Echoes and Edges: The Broken and Beautiful Podcast is a storytelling and healing podcast hosted by Patria Rector — coach, mentor, and founder of The Broken and Beautiful. Through trauma-informed storywork, the Enneagram, and real-life relationship insights, Patria explores what it means to grow, grieve, and live with authenticity.Listeners will hear personal narratives, practical tools for emotional health, and gentle practices for self-awareness. Each episode invites you to discover beauty in the middle of life’s messiness — and to embrace your story with kindness.Perfect for anyone interested in emotional healing, self-discovery, relationships, or the Enneagram, Echoes and Edges is your companion for the journey toward hope and wholeness.Y
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