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Good Faith

Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.

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    Malcolm Guite pt. 2: When Doubt Meets Divine Beauty and Nightingales Lead to a Grail

    What Can Lead a Weary Soul to the Divine in a Post-Christian World?   Malcolm Guite is back for part two of our chat with him, and this time we go from atheism to awe, from the Psalms to the Holy Grail, and from Keats to King Arthur. Malcolm tells the wild story of how poetry cracked open his imagination and shattered his unbelief, leading him into the living presence of God — then shows why Galahad and the Grail might be the ancient, weird, luminous story our burned-out, disenchanted world needs now.   00:00 - The Sonnet Epiphany 1. Magi 01:28 - Introduction to Malcolm Guite Part 2 03:37 - From Atheism to Wonder  06:27 - Encountering Keats's "Ode to a Nightingale" 12:11 - The Augustinian Idea of Beauty 15:18 - You Are Not the Center of the Universe 20:44 - "Take Up the Tale" A Ballad Introducing Guite's Arthurian Epic 23:54 - Why Does Retelling the Arthurian Legends Matter Now? 25:06 - The Truth of the Wasteland in the Modern World 27:19 - Conclusion and Credits   Listen to Malcolm Guite pt. 1: Does Theology Need an Imaginative Spark to Grasp God's Mystery?   Sign up for The After Party Informational Webinars   Mentioned In This Episode: Malcolm Guite's Galahad in the Grail Malcolm Guite's Epiphany 1 The magi Malcolm Guite's Sounding the Seasons C.S. Lewis's Surprised by Joy John Keats' Ode to a Nightingale Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo's The Confessions Of Saint Augustine   Scriptures Referenced In This Episode: Psalm 145 (1928 BCP) The Psalms (Coverdale edition) PDF version   More from Malcolm Guite: Malcolm Guite's website and blog Malcolm Guite's Youtube channel Malcolm Guite's books   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    David French on Ukraine and America's Moral Retreat

    Is Ukraine's Fight Against Tyranny Already America's Failure?   New York Times opinion writer and Iraq War veteran David French joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith podcast to explain why Ukraine may be the world-changing war Americans are ignoring. David argues that Ukraine's resistance to Russia has exposed America's retreat from moral leadership, transformed the global balance of power, and elevated Zelensky as one of the most consequential leaders of our time. From Trump's impact on NATO to Europe's growing defense buildup, Curtis and David explore what Ukraine reveals about U.S. power, Christian responsibility, global justice, and the fight against tyranny.   Sign up for The After Party Informational Webinars Sign up for The Good List   02:41 - A Shift in the Balance of Power 08:51 - Ukraine's Rise as a World Power 10:03 - The "Trump Effect" on Germany, France, & Japan  16:30 - A Response to the Left's "Good Riddance to America" Argument 19:40 - Is the U.S. an unreliable partner? 25:41 - Why Americans Should Care About Global Affairs 30:00 - Who Is My Global Neighbor? 32:03 - Evangelicals' Narrow Political Focus 38:18 - Zelensky The Unlikely Hero 45:27 - Are There Virtues to Emulate from Zelensky?   Mentioned in This Episode: David French's article Meet the New Leader of the Free World Canadian P. M. Mark Carney's speech "middle powers must act together" President Zelensky's February 24, 2022 address to Ukraine Jeffrey A. Friedman: The Myth of a Bipartisan Golden Age for U.S. Foreign Policy: The Truman-Eisenhower Consensus Remains Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies   Scriptures: The Good Samaritan Luke 10:24-37 (ESV) Matthew 10:16-23 (ESV)   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    Feasting on Hope in a Starving Culture with Hannah Miller King

    Is There a Hidden Power of Communion in a Hopeless Age?   Hannah Miller King joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith podcast to discuss her book Feasting on Hope: How God Sets a Table in the Wilderness and why communion is more than a symbolic church ritual. Together, they explore the Lord's Supper, Christian hope, embodied worship, and how the table of God forms Christians to resist consumer culture and carry resurrection-shaped love into a hopeless world. They discuss why this embodied practice connects believers to Christ's past sacrifice, present grace, and future return and show how the practice retrains our loves and sends us outward in mission.   02:28 - What Does Union with Christ Look Like Across All Traditions? 05:04 - The Differences: Symbolic vs. Sacramental Views 12:13 - Does the Lord's Supper Connect to Daily Life? 15:40 - Is It a Means of Hope in a Hopeless World? 26:40 - Is The Richness In "Remembering" Christ's Past, Present, and Future? 29:50 - Detaching From Worldly Loves to Re-Attach to God 33:10 - The Power of Routine Practice 35:09 - A Commission to Welcome Others   Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List   Mentioned In This Episode: Hannah Miller King's book — Feasting on Hope: How God Sets a Table in the Wilderness   Scriptures Referenced: Luke 22:19 (ESV) The Last Supper / Institution of Communion: Luke 22:14–20 (ESV), Matthew 26:26–29 (ESV), or Mark 14:22–25 (ESV) 1 Corinthians 11:23–26 (ESV) Revelation 19:6–9 (ESV) Exodus 12 (ESV)   More from Hannah Miller King: Hannah Miller King's article at Christianity Today Hannah Miller King's website   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Malcolm Guite pt. 1: Does Theology Need an Imaginative Spark to Grasp God's Mystery?

    Imagination Combined with Reason Can Build a Sturdier Faith.   Malcolm Guite invites us to recover a "baptized imagination," showing how poetry can do real theological work by carrying truth through image, beauty, sacrament, and story. Rather than replacing reason, imagination helps us perceive meaning—opening Scripture, creation, and the mystery of Christ in ways analysis alone cannot reach.   00:00 - A Sonnet for Saint Peter 01:16 - Introduction to the Episode 03:32 - Can Poetry Do Theology? 09:02 - What Is the Baptized Imagination? 11:09 - Reason, Imagination, and Meaning with C.S. Lewis 17:24 - The Eternal Act of Creation 20:07 - Conclusion and Preview of Part 2   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List   Mentioned In This Episode: Malcolm Guite's Galahad in the Grail Malcolm Guite's Parable and Paradox William Shakespoeare's Sonnet 18: Shall I compare thee to a summer's day? George Herbert's poem The Agonie C.S. Lewis's Bluspels and Flalansferes C.S. Lewis on Imagination and Reason in Christian Apologetics Samuel Taylor Coleridge's Biographia Literaria Scriptures Referenced In This Episode: 1 Corinthians 2 (ESV) Luke 22:19-20 (NJKV) Luke 10:27 (NKJV) John 1:1 (NIV) Psalm 19:1 (KJV)   More from Malcolm Guite: Malcolm Guite's website and blog Malcolm Guite's Youtube channel Malcolm Guite's books   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    David Thomas on Parenting Without Panic in an Age of Anxiety

    How Can We Raise Capable Kids Without Rescuing Them?   David Thomas, co-executive director of Daystar Counseling and co-author of Capable, joins Curtis Chang for a timely conversation on Christian parenting, kids' mental health, and raising resilient children in an age of anxiety. They explore why today's parenting culture can accidentally make kids less capable—and how faith, courage, and emotional resilience can help families face struggle without fear. If you're raising kids in this world shaped by stress, screens, and social pressure, this episode offers grounded, practical wisdom.   02:32 - It's Been a Decade of Youth Mental Health Crisis and Parental Stress 06:10 - Distinctively Christian Parenting vs. Secular Approaches 11:06 - Parenting as Spiritual Formation 16:31 - Has Language Inflation Made Parental Modeling More Important? 19:26 - How Do Some Parental Practices Undermine Capability? 25:39 - Managing Parental Discomfort and Allowing Growth 30:59 - Parenting as a Context for Parental Growth 32:02 - Death to Self and Parenting Young Adults 34:34 - Empathy and Questions: A Parental Script 36:43 - How Do Empathy and Agency Image God in Parenting? 38:17- Encouragement for Exhausted and Stuck Parents   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List   Mentioned In This Episode: David Thomas & Sissy Goff's Capable: How to Teach Your Kids the Strengths, Skills, and Strategies to Build Resilience David's co-author Sissy Goff Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation Jonathan Haidt's substack After Babel Katherine and Jay Wolf's Hope Heals   Scriptures Referenced: John 16:33 (ESV) 2 Corinthians 3:18 (ESV) Romans 8:29 (ESV) Genesis 4:26 (ESV)   More from David Thomas: Listen to David's podcast: Raising Boys & Girls (with Sissy Goff, David Thomas, and Melissa Trevathan) Explore Daystar Counseling in Nashville, Tennessee Follow David on instagram: Raising Boys and Girls Other books by David Thomas   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    What Christians Need To Sing Amidst Our Crazy Times with Matt Maher

    How Does the Church Sings Through Suffering and Why Do the Songs Matter?   Grammy Award nominee and Dove Award winner Matt Maher joins the Good Faith podcast for a conversation about the power of songs and church music to tell the truth about suffering. Reflecting on protest, justice, prophetic art, ecumenism, and even Rich Mullins, Maher explores how the church can hold lament and praise together while still pointing people to the hope and holiness of God. Drawing on Psalm 22 and Jesus' cry of abandonment on the cross, he argues that the church, like Jesus, must sing honestly about pain and abandonment without losing sight of the worship and honor God deserves.   *This episode was recorded live at the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   00:00:00  - Tease: The Duality of Abandonment and Praise 00:01:00 - Introduction from Curtis Chang 05:31 - Conversion and the Impact of Catholic Liturgy on His Faith 08:13 - Theology in Songwriting and Collaboration 09:57- Can Ecumenism Expand Your Perspective? 13:06 - John 17 and Praying for Church Unity  14:35 - Prophetic Calling Comforts the Afflicted and Challenges the Comfortable 16:38 - Protest Themes and the Burden of Truth 20:30 - Holding Space for Both Praise and Lament 21:55 - Christian Justice Movements and Prophetic Action 24:02 - The After Party Album and Amos's Call to Justice 24:11 - That He Will Overcome (musical insert) 26:29 - The Toppling of Empire Lyrics as Inspired by Dr. Mika Edmonson 29:04 - The Neurological and Physical Impact of Music on Memory and Community 34:03 - Personal Storytelling and Lament To Work Out Hard Things 40:00 - Rich Mullins' Influence and Legacy 41:24 - What Is The Song the Church Needs Now, In These Crazy Times? 43:48 - A Warning From Nazi Germany Against Ignoring Suffering   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List   Mentioned In This Episode: The Nicene Creed and the History of the Council of Nicaea Matt Maher's Echoes album (Spotify) Matt Maher's Your Grace Is Enough Matt Maher's The Stories I Tell Myself Matt Maher's The Stories I Tell Myself (Acoustic video) Matt Maher, DOE, Dee Wilson, & The Porter's Gate's That We Might Overcome Listen to the album The Kingdom of Jesus: Songs For The After Party Rich Mullins' Canticle of The Plains (full album on Youtube) Rich Mullins' The Joy of Jesus (feat. Matt Maher, Mac Powell, & Ellie Holcomb) More about Francis Chan   Scriptures Referenced: Psalm 22 (ESV) John 17 (ESV) John 14:6 (ESV) Amos 5-6 (ESV)   More from Matt Maher: See Matt on tour Matt Maher's website Subscribe to Matt's email list Listen to Matt Maher on Spotify   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    N.T. Wright: How To Study the Bible For Yourself

    Why Relying on One Bible Teacher Isn't Enough—and What to Do About It   In this Good Faith Podcast bonus short, N.T. Wright shares practical, accessible guidance on how to read the Bible with deeper understanding, moving beyond surface-level devotion into the rich world of biblical context, Scripture study, and Christian discipleship. Wright explains why exploring texts like Josephus, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Apocrypha, and the Apostolic Fathers can help modern believers interpret the New Testament more faithfully and confidently. He also offers a personal glimpse into his lifelong daily Bible reading practice, revealing how Scripture, prayer, and the Psalms have shaped his faith from childhood to today.   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List     Mentioned In This Episode: John Goldingay & N.T. Wright's The Bible for Everyone Books by Richard Middleton Books by Walter Brueggemann The Complete Works of Josephus (pdf) The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls (pdf) Resource For Writings of the Apostolic Fathers (e.g., Ignatius, Clement, Polycarp)   More from N.T. Wright: N.T. Wright's book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal N.T. Wright Online N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements N.T. Wright's books   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Pete Wehner on Pete Hegseth, Iran, and Dangerous Biblical Interpretation

    Are Violent Bible Passages Being Used to Justify War?   Pete Wehner, former White House official and writer for The Atlantic, joins Curtis Chang to examine how violent Old Testament "holy war" texts are being invoked in today's political and cultural debates, including by Pete Hegseth and voices tied to the Trump administration. Pete and Curtis explore the war in Iran, Bible interpretation, the character of God, and why Christians must read troubling Bible passages through the lens of Jesus and the cross before making life-and-death moral judgments.   02:37 - Holy War Texts and Public Policy 03:37 - Pete Hegseth and the Invocation of Holy War  08:32 - The Real-World Consequences of Misreading Scripture  17:21 - Wrestling with Disturbing Texts  22:28 - The Necessity of Disturbance and Christocentric Reading 31:07 - What Is the Historical Role of Allegorical Interpretation? 35:17 - Jewish and Rabbinic Traditions of Wrestling with Text  37:21 - Tim Keller: Christ's Character as Interpretive Key 42:58 - The Importance of Literary Reasoning 46:37 - Literal but Time-Specific Commands 52:15 - A Warning Against Overconfidence 54:04 - Debating for Truth, Not Victory 56:09 - The Real-World and Personal Stakes of Biblical Interpretation   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List     Mentioned In This Episode: Pete Wehner's article Pete Hegseth's Moral Unseriousness Understanding Pete Hegseth's connection to Douglas Wilson: What is CREC and how does it shape Pete Hegseth's religious rhetoric? President George W. Bush's National Cathedral Speech What is the Christian Reconstructionist Movement? What is Just War Theory? Gregory A. Boyd's The Crucifixion of the Warrior God, Vol. 1 & 2 Gregory A Boyd's Cross Vision: How the Crucifixion of Jesus Makes Sense of Old Testament Violence Tremper Longman's The Old Testament as Literature: Foundations for Christian Interpretation More about C.S. Lewis & Owen Barfield     More from Pete Wehner: Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times     Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Andy Crouch: Will AI Be Friend, Foe, or False Substitute?

    Is AI Helping Us Flourish or Making Us Less Human?   Andy Crouch joins Curtis Chang for a timely conversation on AI, Christianity, human flourishing, and the future of being human. Together they explore whether artificial intelligence will deepen human relationships or replace them, why prediction is not the same as prophecy, and how Christians can pursue embodied community, reconciliation, and faithful living in the age of AI.   04:31 - Technology Adoption and Cultural Change 09:05 - AI's Subtle Presence and Future Potential 12:30 - AI and Work-Life Balance 14:36 - Risks of AI Replacing Relationships 15:35 - Loneliness and AI Relationships  20:43 - Practical Steps Toward Relationships 28:36 - A call to cultivate deep relationships before the AI "tsunami." 29:54 - Human Distinctiveness: Prediction vs. Prophecy 35:13 - AI, Consciousness, and the Image of God 41:04 - What are the responsibilities of Christians working in AI? 45:49 - Redemptive Technology 46:24 - Andy expresses grief and concern for dehumanization. 48:03 - God's redemptive purpose despite anticipated losses from AI   Drawing upon material from a past conversation   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List     Mentioned in This Episode: Rosaria Butterfield's The Gospel Comes with a House Key Good Faith episode 107: Where is AI Taking Us Spiritually? (with James Cham and John Kim) American Psychological Association: Many teens are turning to AI chatbots for friendship and emotional support Psychology Today: AI Use in Dating Jumps 333% Video: AI Allows Man with ALS to 'Speak' Again     More From Andy Crouch: Check out Andy's website Check out Andy's work at Praxis Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Jim's Campfire Story: Connection in the Face of Dementia

    The Power of Presence: How Connection Transcends Cognitive Loss Show Notes: Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, In this episode. Jim, a devoted husband and caregiver, shares moving stories about his wife Carolyn's vibrant life and their journey through her frontotemporal dementia diagnosis. Inspired by Curtis and Good Faith guest Professor John Swinton, a theologian and former nurse, Jim  explores the theological significance of being remembered by God, and the enduring value of personhood beyond memory. Send your Campfire Stories to: [email protected] Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Katelyn Beaty on Celebrity Culture, AI, and the Risks of Disembodied Faith

    Are Megachurches, Christian Influencers, and Artificial Intelligence Breaking the Church?   This week on the Good Faith podcast, Katelyn Beaty joins host Curtis Chang to confront the church's growing addiction to celebrity culture, asking how celebrity pastors, megachurch platforms, and AI are changing the way Christians are formed. Curtis even asks Katelyn to evaluate whether his public persona and the Good Faith platform risk becoming part of the very problem they're critiquing. If faith is becoming more online, more branded, and less embodied, this conversation asks the hard question: what happens to authentic Christian community, spiritual growth, and discipleship when personality starts to outrun the way of Jesus?   02:06 - Defining Persona vs. Fame 04:14 - Embodied Relationships vs. Platform 05:17 - Curtis's Personal Experience with Platform 09:56 - Dangers of Platform Culture for the Church 14:27 - Curtis's Dilemma: Content vs. Persona 17:58 - Navigating Platform Tensions as a Christian Leader 20:09 - Case Studies: Celebrity Gone Wrong and Right 25:34 - Community and Spiritual Formation Beyond Megachurches  30:10 - Technology, Evangelicals, and the Attention Economy 33:00 - AI and the Future of Persona and Platform  36:12 - Final Hope: Embodied, Material Christian Life   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List     Mentioned in This Episode: More about Katelyn Beaty Katelyn Beaty's Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church TIME: The True Story Behind the FX Documentary Series The Secrets of Hillsong  Christianity Today's podcast: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill New York Times: How the Willow Creek Church Scandal Has Stunned the Evangelical World More about Eugene Peterson Curtis Chang's The Anxiety Opportunity     More From Katelyn Beaty: Katelyn Beaty's Substack The Beaty Beat  Katelyn Beaty's podcast Saved by the City Katelyn Beaty's A Woman's Place Participant Guide: A Bible Study Exploring Every Woman's Call to Work     Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Francis Collins & Kristine Torjesen on The Fight for Public Health: Science, Faith, and What's at Stake?

    From Breakthroughs to Budget Cuts: The Rollercoaster of Modern Medical Research   What happens when politics wages war on science—and Christians get caught in the blast radius? In this Good Faith Podcast episode, Curtis Chang talks with former NIH director Dr. Francis Collins and BioLogos president Dr. Kristine Torjesen about Collins' forced exit from NIH, the shutdown of a major HIV prevention programs in Africa, and how cuts to vaccines, medical research, and public health are threatening lives and future breakthroughs in cancer, Alzheimer's, and pandemic preparedness. They also confront vaccine distrust, anti-institution politics, and evangelical skepticism of science, while making the case that science is not the enemy of faith but a gift from God for truth, healing, and human flourishing.   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List Get tickets: Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference and our recording with Matt Maher   05:56 - Political Interference in Science Roles, Research, and Aid Cuts 10:57 - Are Medical Advances Threatened by Political Decisions? 16:03 - Curtis Gets Candid About Unexpected Benefits of Medical Aid in His Life 17:34 - Vaccine Policy Changes and Anti-Vax Influence  20:46 - Engaging Christians Who Distrust Science 25:39 - What Lessons Can We Learn from COVID Vaccine Promotion  28:32 - Is Science Politically Biased? 36:15 - Distrust of Institutions and Its Roots 44:45 - Equipping Pastors and Parents for Faith-Science Conversations 46:59 - Hopeful Medical Advances Despite Setbacks 50:15 - Science as a Source of Beauty and Worship   Scriptures: John 14:6 (ESV)   Mentioned in This Episode: Check out the Biologos website Announcement: Dr. Kristine Torjesen becomes BioLogos' 3rd president and CEO Biologos: Kristine Torjesen's Professional Biography NIH Bio: Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. NIH: Decades in the Making: mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines KFF (The independent source for health policy research and news): COVID-19 preventable mortality Brooke Nichols: Tracking Anticipated Deaths from USAID Funding Cuts Check out the Impact Counter   More From Dr. Francis Collins: Dr. Francis Collins' The Road to Wisdom: On Truth, Science, Faith, and Trust   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson on Leif Enger's Apocalypse & What Matters at the End of the World? (Reading to Make Sense of the World)

    Refusing Despair Amidst Cultural Darkness   What does it look like to cheerfully refuse a collapsing culture without giving in to cynicism, fear, or despair? Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University— dive into Leif Enger's I Cheerfully Refuse, exploring why great novels still matter, how Christians can resist ideations of apocalypse with joy, and what faith-filled fiction reveals about beauty, truth, and survival in dark times. This conversation is for listeners hungry for cultural commentary,hopeful resistance, and deeper ways of reading the world through faith.   01:28 - Challenges of Reading Contemporary Novels 06:03 - The Meaning Behind the Title "I Cheerfully Refuse" 07:47 - Lessons for Dark Times 10:02 - The Enduring Power of Books vs. New Media 12:16 - Cultivating Fruitful Practices in Dark Times 14:36 - Living as a Cheerful Refuser Today 15:02 - Is the Christian Worldview True Reality Or A Bubble? 17:04 - What Is Enger's Idea of True humanity? 18:19 - Recommendations for Similar Books and Authors   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List Get tickets: Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference and our recording with Matt Maher     Mentioned In This Episode: Leif Enger's I Cheerfully Refuse Leif Enger's Peace Like a River Leif Enger's Virgil Wander Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 Claude Acho's Reading Black Books Eugene Vodolazkin's Laurus Rumor Godden's In This House of Brede Dylan Thomas' Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night More About Christopher Beha Jessica Hooton Wilson's The Scandal of Holiness   More From Jessica Hooten Wilson: Jessica Hooten Wilson's website Explore Jessica's books HERE Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    David French on The Iran War: If It's Illegal, Is It Just?

    The Intersection of Trump, Iran, and the Moral Limits of War   What should Christians think about the U.S. war with Iran, Israel's role in the conflict, and the risk of a wider Middle East war? In this Good Faith Podcast episode, Curtis Chang and New York Times columnist David French unpack the escalating U.S.-Iran war through the lens of Christian theology, just war theory, constitutional checks and balances, and the moral limits of presidential power. They explore whether America's military action against Iran is just, legal, or dangerously reckless, while also addressing Israel, regime change, MAGA foreign policy, and the growing risk of a wider global conflict. Join David and Curtis for a thoughtful framework for understanding war in a volatile moment.   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The After Party Sign up for The Good List Get tickets: Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference and our recording with Matt Maher     02:32 - Did Anyone See This Coming? 04:51 - Distinguishing Just and Legal Wars 09:25 - Evaluating America's War Against Iran 14:46 - Why Hasn't Congress Acted? 17:59 - Truthfulness of the Administration 22:32 - Potential Consequences of Prolonged War 33:12 - What About the Theory That Trump's War is a Diversion From Personal Scandals? 39:04 - Evangelical Support for Israel 44:08 - Are We Heading Toward World War III? 53:49 - Christian Prayer and Moral Response     Scriptures: 1 Timothy 2:1–2 (ESV)     Mentioned in This Episode: A primer on Just War Theory Augustine and Just War Theory The UN Charter  Chapter VII, Article 51: the use of force and collective self-defense What is the War Powers Resolution? Abraham Lincoln'sLetter to Congress: January 12, 1848 (Speech regarding Mexican War) Background on U.S. Relations With Iran (1953-2026) Background on Operation Praying Mantis Impacts of the U.S. killing of Qassem Soleimani More about the Lockerbie bombing The Ezra Klein Show, March 3 episode: The Great Lie of War     More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Dave Evans: Designing and Living a Meaningful Life Now

    What Does Radical Acceptance Look Like in Real Life?   In this Good Faith Podcast episode, Curtis Chang sits down with Dave Evans (co-founder of the Stanford Life Design Lab) to tear up the "find your purpose" script and explore how design thinking, faith, and radical acceptance can lead to real meaning—especially through grief and uncertainty. Expect sharp insights, honest stories, and practical tools to build a life with more presence, flow, and authenticity starting now. Dave and Curtis dig into faith and the tension of the "already and not yet" as they look at the ideas in Dave's latest book, How to Live a Meaningful Life.   Take the Listener Survey Sign up for The Good List Get tickets: Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference and our recording with Matt Maher   03:05 - Dave Evans' Journey & the Origins of Life Design 09:54 - Are there Pitfalls When Pursuing Impact and Transactional Mindset? 18:08 - Design Moves for Greater Meaning 22:05 - Radical Acceptance Illustrated by Personal Loss  28:06 - Why Is the Concept of Flow Important? 39:37 - Compatibility of Design Thinking and Christian Worldview 41:06 - Four Areas of Human Experience for Meaning 45:34 - Meaning in the Second Half of Life  48:59 - Getting Started: Practical First Steps   Scriptures: Deuteronomy 30:11–14 (ESV)  Deuteronomy 30:19–20 (ESV) John 10:10 (ESV)  Philippians 2:5-11 (ESV)  Romans 12:2 (ESV) Ecclesiastes 2:11 (ESV) Luke 17:20–21 (ESV) Mark 8:18 (ESV)   Mentioned in This Episode: Dave Evans + Bill Burnett's How to Live a Meaningful Life: Using Design Thinking to Unlock Purpose, Joy, and Flow Every Day What is Radical Acceptance? Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience Lisa Miller's lecture The Awakened Brain  Jill Bolte Taylor's TED Talk: My Stroke of Insight More about Jean Vanier and L'Arche Richard Rohr's Falling Upward Veritas Forum: Dallas Willard Stanford's Life Design Lab What is Design thinking? (pdf) Don Norman's The Design of Everyday Things More from Dave Evans: Dave Evans + Bill Burnett's Designing Your Life: How to Build a Well-Lived, Joyful Life Dave Evans + Bill Burnett's Designing Your New Work Life: How to Thrive and Change and Find Happiness--and a New Freedom--at Work Dave Evans Praxis Mentor page Check out: Designing Your Life website   Connected Good Faith Episodes: Good Faith ep. 68: The Impact Fetish (with Andy Crouch)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    Can We Pray Together? with Curtis Chang & DT Slouffman

    Prayers of the People: The Power of Prayer in Difficult Times   The Good Faith Podcast host Curtis Chang and producer DT Slouffman guide listeners through a communal time of prayer. Responding to heartfelt prayer requests from newsletter subscribers, they reflect on themes of hope, family reconciliation, and finding peace amid uncertainty. Each request is followed by a moment of silent prayer, inviting listeners to participate. The episode emphasizes surrendering to God's will, the challenges of strained relationships, and seeking God's presence in suffering.   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter   Mentioned In This Episode: Matthew 6:9–13 (ESV) Ephesians 3:14-15 (ESV) C.S. Lewis' book The Four Loves   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Brian Webb's Stubborn Optimism: A Christian Case for Climate Action

    Can Missionaries, Not Politics, Depolarize Climate Change for Christians?   Climate change isn't a partisan talking point—it's a discipleship test, and Brian Webb, a seasoned sustainability director and educator, joins Curtis Chang to make the case that climate ignorance hurts both the body of Christ and the world God made for our flourishing. From typhoons overseas to Lyme disease at home, Webb shows how climate change is already hurting real people—and why Christians can't shrug it off. Forget guilt and "change your light bulb" advice: Brian and Curtis lean into stubborn optimism and practical action for churches, workplaces, and local communities.   06:01 - A Faith Journey Becomes A Creation Care Story 08:23 - Creation Care and 1 Corinthians 12 14:06 - Connecting Climate Change Impact to Human Suffering  18:30 - The Problem of Warming From California Wildfires to Lyme Disease 33:35 - Examples of Institutional Action 39:10 - Measuring Institutional Progress 40:16 - Missionaries Sounding the Alarm  43:56 - Dealing with Discouragement and Stubborn Hope  50:01 - Series Wrap-Up and Final Takeaways   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter Learn more about George Fox Talks Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   Mentioned In This Episode: Colossians 1:15-17 (ESV) 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 (ESV) Read the Cape Town Commitment  Learn more about A Rocha USA Learn more about the Bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus The YWAM (Youth With A Mission) School of Sustainable Development Learn about the Christian Climate Observers Program (CCOP) Learn about Typhoon Haiyan survivor Marinel Ubaldo (Noble Women's Initiative) Tuvalu & the Pacific Conference of Churches Organizations Helping Tuvalu: Tuvalu Climate Finance Project  Tuvalu Coastal Adaptation Project Government of Tuvalu – Climate Change / projects portal   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    Tuvalu Is Disappearing: Life at Ground Zero of the Climate Crisis

    Vanishing Coastlines, Dying Reefs, and the Future of an Island Nation   In this short Good Faith podcast story, Taualo Penivao, General Secretary of the Christian Church of Tuvalu, shares a firsthand witness of how climate change is reshaping daily life, faith, and the difficult questions of land reclamation and climate migration. Hear why Tuvalu is often called "ground zero" for the global climate crisis—and what support is needed to help protect its people, culture, and future.   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter Learn more about George Fox Talks Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   Organizations Helping Tuvalu: Tuvalu Climate Finance Project  Tuvalu Coastal Adaptation Project Government of Tuvalu – Climate Change / projects portal   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    N.T. Wright: Heaven Isn't the Endgame — New Creation and God's Homecoming

    Is The Greatest Shift in Christian Theology Going From Heaven to Earth?   Heaven isn't the point of the gospel—and N.T. Wright challenges the "accept Jesus and escape earth" narrative of Christianity. Curtis Chang talks with Wright, leading theologian and prolific author, about New Creation and his latest book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal, asking whether the Bible's promise is the Kingdom of God on earth—or simply going to heaven when you die. They examine the "royal priesthood" calling, what this means for life after death and suffering now, and the true purpose of Christian faith.   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter Learn more about George Fox Talks Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   03:43 - The Continuity Between Old and New Testaments 05:05 - Reject Platonism and Embracing New Creation? 08:04 - A Vision More Demanding Than The "Ticket To Heaven" Gospel 13:48 - What Does This Mean For Grace, Works, and Human Vocation? 19:53 - Divergence on the Meaning of The Kingdom of God 27:24 - The Problem of Evil and the "Now and Not Yet" 34:59 - A Pastoral Response to Heaven-Focused Theology 40:41 - How Are Heaven and Earth Interlocking Realities? 47:59 - The Royal Priesthood: Humanity's Biblical Mandate 51:47 - Tom Wright's Future Projects and Reflections   Scriptures: Revelation 5:9-10 (ESV) - kingdom + priests reign on the earth Exodus 19:6; Deuteronomy 7:6; 1 Peter 2:9 (ESV) - royal priesthood Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - creation "very good"; humanity's vocation Revelation 21–22 (ESV) - new heaven/new earth; God dwelling with humanity Romans 12:2 (ESV) - renewing of the mind Romans 8:21–23 (ESV) - creation set free; redemption of bodies Malachi 3:1 + Isaiah 40:3 (ESV) - prepare the way; the Lord coming to his temple Psalm 8 (ESV) - humanity crowned with glory/honor; vocation Ephesians 4 (ESV) - new humanity; community ethics   Mentioned in This Episode: N.T. Wright's book God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal N.T. Wright's book Surprised by Hope What is the Bar Kokhba Revolt? What is the Mishnah? "Teach Me, My God and King" (George Herbert / "The Elixir")  Tom Holland's book Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World C.S. Lewis' book Miracles Scot McKnight's book Reading Romans Backwards: A Gospel of Peace in the Midst of Empire   More from N.T. Wright: N.T. Wright Online N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements N.T. Wright's books (Amazon)   Past Conversations with N.T. Wright: Good Faith ep. 207: N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, & the Armor of God Good Faith ep. 128: The Unseen Spiritual Powers Shaping Our World (with N.T. Wright)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Sara Groves' Borrowed Courage: Bearing Witness to ICE in Minnesota and the Gospel

    Disappearing Neighbors, Upended Constitutional Norms, and an Artist's Response to ICE   Curtis Chang talks with singer-songwriter and Twin Cities resident Sara Groves about heightened ICE activity in Minneapolis–Saint Paul and why the consequences for families and neighborhoods persist after the headlines fade. Groves challenges claims that "protesters are paid agitators" or that "ICE targets only criminals," naming the emotional and spiritual toll alongside concerns about due process and constitutional overreach. They discuss "borrowed courage," the cost of public witness—when refusing to defend the indefensible—and how Christians can resist dehumanization by loving neighbors and cultivating beauty amid fear and division.   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter   02:45 - Sara's Eyewitness Account of ICE Activity 07:08 - Challenging Misconceptions and Narratives 10:18 - Refugees and Legal Overreach 13:48 - Has There Been A Public Reaction to Sara's Advocacy? 18:43 - Local Tragedies and Finding Borrowed Courage 23:44 - Why Do Some Stay Silent or Disengaged? 25:31 - Losing Fans and the Cost of Advocacy 35:41 - What Is the Artist's Response? 43:42 - The Challenges For Sensitive Souls Engaging in Social Justice  44:38 - A Message to Listeners Beyond Minnesota   Scriptures: Matthew 22:37-39 (ESV) Mark 12:29-31 (ESV) Isaiah 1:18 (ESV) Ephesians 6:10-18 (ESV)   Mentioned in This Episode: Video from Sara's social media bearing witness to current event s in Minnesota Learn about the work of International Justice Mission MPR articles about the killing of Philando Castile MPR articles about the murder of George Floyd Two 17-year-old U.S. citizens detained at Target (local news video) Federal Court Blocks: "Operation PARRIS," Orders Release of Detained Refugees More about Makoto Fujimura Kazuo Ishiguro's The Buried Giant Flannery O'Connor's Some Aspects of the Grotesque in Southern Fiction (read by O'Connor) Dorcas Thomson's Social Justice for the Sensitive Soul Learn about the Art House North Sara Groves' album What Makes It Through? Sara Groves' song "Telltale Heart" Sara Groves' song "Enough" Sara Groves' song-in-progress "Normal Things Are Hard Right Now" Steven Galloway's The Cellist of Sarajevo   Past Episodes Referenced in this Conversation: Good Faith ep. 215: David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration Good Faith ep. 142: Finding God in the Small Things with Charlie Peacock & Andi Ashworth   More From Sara Groves: Sara Groves' Patreon Sara Groves' website   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Dr. Lee Warren on Self-Brain Surgery: Renewing the Mind with Faith and Neuroscience

    Can You Really Change Your Brain by Changing Your Thoughts?   Neurosurgeon, Iraq War vet, and author Dr. Lee Warren shows Curtis Chang how to perform "self brain surgery"—no scalpel, just the brutal truth: your automatic thoughts are rewiring your brain every day, and a lot of them are lying to you. Curtis and Lee dig into neuroplasticity, why you keep looping the same stress scripts, how gratitude can hijack anxiety, and they connect the dots between brain science and faith as represented in Philippians 4 and Romans 12. If you're stuck in anxiety, trauma, or toxic patterns, this episode could be a wake-up call—and a way forward.   Enter to win: Dr. Lee Warren Book Give Away Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   02:38 - How Do Thoughts Reshape the Brain? 07:39 - Personal Story: Grieving and Neuroplasticity 11:08 - Philippians 4 and Neuroscience 18:01 - Gratitude as a Brain Switch 21:51 - Neuroscience vs. Classic Therapy 31:03 - Building New Habits and Synaptic Pruning 32:28 - The "Self" in Self Brain Surgery and the Holy Spirit 44:07) - Wisdom to Know What Can and Cannot Change 52:34 - Epigenetics and Generational Influence 56:49 - Final Word: Hope and Agency   Mentioned In This Episode: Dr. Lee Warren's The Life-Changing Art of Self-Brain Surgery Philippians 4:6–8 (ESV) Romans 12:1–2 (ESV) 2 Corinthians 10:5 (ESV) Romans 5:3–5 (ESV) Deuteronomy 5:9-10 (ESV) Summary: Study finds epigenetic changes in children of Holocaust survivors Chris Voss's Never Split the Difference The Original Serenity Prayer   More From Dr. Lee Warren: Listen: The Dr. Lee Warren Podcast Dr. Warren's website Dr. Warren's  No Place to Hide Dr. Warren's  Hope Is the First Dose Dr. Warren's  I've Seen the End of You   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Protest and Prayer: Resisting ICE in Minnesota with Rev. Mariah Tollgaard

    Responding To The Minnesota Surge Leads To A Pastor's Arrest!   Curtis Chang sits down with Rev. Mariah Tollgaard for an on-the-ground look at ICE raids and immigration enforcement in Minneapolis–St. Paul, Minnesota. They break down masked agents, rapid detentions, and MSP Airport deportation flights—plus the church-led pushback through mutual aid, constitutional observer trainings, and clergy protests that led to Reverend Tollgaard's arrest. It's a faith-and-civil-rights wake-up call: what neighbor-love demands when ICE shows up in your city, and why accountability matters.   03:11 - Setting the Scene: ICE Occupation in Minnesota 08:19 - How Are Churches and the Community Responding?  00:10:24 - Faith-Based Activism, Public Witness, and Arrests of Faith Leaders  15:46 - Theological Reflection on Resistance 17:55 - Biblical Basis for Protest  24:25 - Minnesota's Unique Response and Context  29:52 - Corporate Complicity and Airport Protests  34:02 - Spiritual Courage Rooted In History 36:36 - A Call to National Solidarity  38:48 - Closing Prayer   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter Learn more about George Fox Talks   Mentioned In This Episode: How to Contact Your Elected Officials: Ballotpedia's Who Represents Me tool Matthew 22:34-40 (ESV) - The Second Greatest Commandment Ephesians 6:10–19 (ESV) - The Whole Armour of God Hebrews 12:1-17 (ESV) - The Great Cloud of Witnesses Nearly 30,000 Minnesotans trained as constitutional observers In The Twin Cities, A Massive Strike Against ICE Ernst Frenkel's The Dual State: A Contribution To The Theory Of Dictatorship (pdf) David French: An Old Theory Helps Explain What Happened to Renee Good Good Faith episode 215: David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Dr. Jonathan Moo: Loving God, Neighbor, and the Natural World

    How Can Christians Turn Groans into Growth By Responding to Ecological Grief?   In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang talks with Dr. Jonathan Moo, a decorated professor of both the New Testament and Environmental Studies, about why Christian creation care belongs at the center of discipleship. Drawing from Romans 8, Colossians 1, and Genesis 1–2, Moo connects biblical hope for new creation with practical action on climate change, stewardship, and loving our neighbors by caring for the places they depend on and enjoy. The conversation explores how faith and science can work together, why "dominion" looks like Christ-shaped service, and how small, local projects—from Uganda to Texas—offer tangible models of environmental renewal. Dr. Moo offers us a bigger vision of human flourishing, plus concrete next steps for Christians and churches to live joyfully and faithfully in God's world.   05:04 - How Do Jonathan Moo's Academic and Faith and Love for Creation Intersect? 07:51 - Romans 8 and Lament for Creation 17:38 - Salvation, Resurrection, and the Earth 22:08 - Practical Examples of Creation Care 27:01 - Motivating People To Move From Enjoying Nature To Actively Caring For It 31:24 - How Do We Address Interpretations of "Dominion"? 36:32 - Jesus as Model for Dominion 39:34 - Understanding Barriers Between Evangelicals and Science  47:16 - Engaging with Skeptics and Loved Ones 53:25 - Advice for Skeptics  55:11 - Practical Steps for the Environmentally Concerned   Episode Companion: Christians and Climate Change Guide 2   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter Learn more about George Fox Talks Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   Mentioned In This Episode: Tools, Websites, and Organizations A Rocha USA Bull Creek Restoration Project Climate Stewards USA   Books and Authors Learn more about Aldo Leopold Learn more about Alister McGrath Learn more about Evelyn Waugh Learn more about Wendell Berry Debra Rienstra's Refugia Faith: Seeking Hidden Shelters, Ordinary Wonders, and the Healing of the Earth   Biblical Passages Colossians 1:15-20 (ESV) Romans 8 (ESV) Genesis 1 and 2 (ESV) Mark 12:30-31 (ESV)   Concepts and Ideas Carbon Calculator (use for offsets) Bio Sand Filters No Till Agriculture Mulching and Crop Rotation   More From Dr. Jonathan Moo: Jonathan & Douglas Moo's Creation Care: A Biblical Theology of the Natural World (Biblical Theology for Life) More about Dr. Moo: Whitworth professor acts as a wilderness guide A reminder of Dr. Moo's A.W.A.K.E. acronym   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    David French: Dual State America and Authoritarianism - Renee Good and the Trump Administration

    What Can Christians Do and Will It Work?   In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Curtis Chang and David French name what's happening to American democracy right now: "Dual State America," where life feels normal—until the Trump administration's lawless prerogative power snaps into place. From the Renee Good case to Orwellian spin and rising political violence, they trace how authoritarianism spreads by redefining reality and daring ordinary people not to resist. French's gut-check: stop waiting for someone else to save the country—do something your grandkids will recognize as courage.   02:40 - What Is The "Dual State"? 06:25 - What Does The Renee Good Shooting Show Us? 11:03 - Potential For Resistance and Change 15:32 - The Dangers of Rotating Elected Authoritarians  20:03 - The "Gradually, Then Suddenly" Collapse 24:30 - What Can Individuals Do? 35:31 - The Risk and Uncertainty of Action 37:10 - Embracing Faithfulness Over Effectiveness 47:27 - Christians and The Integrity of Words 47:58 - What Sustains David French?   More about the Religious Landscape Study pewresearch.org/rls   Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter     Mentioned In This Episode: David French: An Old Theory Helps Explain What Happened to Renee Good Ernst Frenkel's The Dual State: A Contribution To The Theory Of Dictatorship (pdf) Ernst Frenkel's Legal Sabotage: Ernst Fraenkel in Hitler's Germany Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s Letters from a Birmingham Jail George Orwell's 1984 Re-read the Declaration of Independence Read The Loosening of American Evangelicalism (article)     More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook     The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    The Vanishing Church and Why It's Hurting American Democracy with Ryan Burge

    The Rise of the "Nones" and the Politics Driving People Out of Church   In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, Ryan Burge joins Curtis Chang to explore The Vanishing Church and the decline of moderate American congregations, using hard data and his lived experience as a longtime pastor, political scientist, and statistician. Ryan and Curtis explore how evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics, and the religious "nones" are changing—and what that means for polarization, social cohesion, and democracy in America. Burge offers a practical challenge for the lonely or spiritually curious—show up to church even if you don't believe—and makes a case for gratitude and community in an anxious age.   06:25 - Evangelicals: Political Shift and Homogeneity 13:59 - Mainline Protestants: Decline and Diversity 19:06 - Aging and Future of Mainline Churches 23:05 - American Catholics: Stability and Rightward Shift 28:31 - Priest Shortages and Cultural Challenges 30:36 - The Rise of the Nones 31:25 - Political Drivers of Religious Disaffiliation 40:17 - Polarization: Politics and Economics 47:54 - Addressing Polarization: Individual Responsibility 50:23 - Advice for Pastors: Preaching Beyond Politics 52:31 - Signs of Hope and Gratitude   Register for the Illuminate Arts + Faith Conference Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter   Mentioned In This Episode: Ryan Burge's The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us (Why the Culture Wars Led to Polarization and What We Can Do About It) Read Ephesians 3:10 (ESV) Read Colossians 1:16-18 (ESV) Danforth Center on Religion and Politics Ryan Burge, Michael Graham, and Jim Davis' The Great Dechurching: Who's Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? More about Dorothy Day   More from Ryan Burge: Substack: Graphs About Religion  Follow Ryan on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/ryanburge More about  Ryan Burge's work   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    Pete Wehner: What Happens When Morality Leaves U.S. Foreign Policy? Venezuela, Greenland, and "Might Makes Right"

    Can Christian Americans Resist Authoritarian Drift?   Pete Wehner—The Atlantic columnist and former Reagan and Bush administration staff member—joins host Curtis Chang to ask the uncomfortable question: in Trump's America, is morality a loser that's been replaced by the "law of the jungle"—especially in U.S. foreign policy? From Venezuela to a looming Greenland/Denmark showdown that could fracture NATO, Wehner argues we're watching "might makes right" go mainstream. The antidote, he says, isn't vibes—it's resistance: stop living within the lie and start living within the truth.   00:04:23 - Explaining the U.S. Foreign Policy Shift  00:06:36 - What Is America's Moral Aspiration in Foreign Policy? 00:07:57 - Trump's "Will to Power" Ethic 00:11:34 - Do We Have Historical Amnesia? 00:16:36 - Contrasting Trump and PEPFAR  00:19:09 - The Disconnect Between Christian Identity and Policy  00:26:34 - Demagogues and Moral Erosion 00:34:19 - President Trump's Unique Amorality 00:37:10 - Primacy of Human Dignity and Christian Ethics  00:41:01 - Venezuela, Greenland, and Moral Implications 00:44:02 - The Value of Beauty and Creation 00:47:14 - What Are the Limits and Possibilities of Action   More about the Religious Landscape Study pewresearch.org/rls   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter   Mentioned In This Episode: Pete Wehner's article Trump's Folly More about PEPFAR (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief) Anne Applebaum's Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism William Galston's Anger, Fear, Domination: Dark Passions and the Power of Political Speech Jeane Kirkpatrick's essay Dictatorships and Double Standards (Commentary) Václav Havel's The Power of the Powerless David Brooks' article America Needs a Mass Movement—Now  Without one, America may sink into autocracy for decades (The Atlantic) C.S. Lewis' idea of active obedience is found in Mere Christianity Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich"  Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Nobel Prize Lecture (literature, 1970)   More from Pete Wehner: Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic Pete Wehner's opinion pieces at The New York Times Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.    

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    Katharine Hayhoe: Talking About Christian Climate Action Is a Gospel Issue

    From Pews to Planet: Faith-Based Steps to Better Creation Stewardship   In this episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and guest Dr. Katherine Hayhoe—Chief Scientist at The Nature Conservancy and a committed evangelical Christian—explore why Christians and churches should care about climate change as a biblical "love your neighbor" issue rooted in justice for the poor and vulnerable. Hayhoe explains how political polarization and "solution aversion" fuel climate skepticism. She introduces the "Six Americas" framework and offers practical guidance for having hopeful, effective conversations that connect climate action to what people already care about. Dr. Hayhoe offers actionable next steps for individuals and congregations—like sharing solutions, starting church initiatives, and leading with hope instead of doom—so Christians can faithfully steward God's creation.   05:23 - Dr. Hayhoe's Faith Journey and Science 07:12 - Experiencing Creation's Vulnerability  09:17 - Is Climate Change a Justice Issue? 10:42 - Encountering Christian Climate Skepticism  18:06 - Christian Organizations and Climate Action 24:35 - Connecting Climate to Personal Values A 28:23 - Navigating Difficult Conversations  33:31 -  What Are the "Six Americas" of Climate Attitudes? 43:02 - Scientific Evidence and Human Impact  48:15 - Focusing on Solutions, Not Just Science  50:03 - What Is One Action Step for the Unsure Christian? 53:00 - What Is One Action Step for the Committed Christian  55:00 - Are There Practical Church-Based Climate Actions?   Episode Companion: Christians and Climate Change Guide 1   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter   Mentioned In This Episode:   Organizations and Networks A Rocha USA Evangelical Environmental Network Tearfund Compassion International World Vision Yale Program on Climate Change Communication   Websites, Tools, Books, and Newsletters Skeptical Science Global Weirding (Video podcast) Colby May's Energy For Purpose (ministry Energy Management) Mark Noll's The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind Dr. John Cook's Cranky Uncle vs. Climate Change: How to Understand and Respond to Climate Science Deniers Bill McKibben's website   Studies and Surveys National Academy of Sciences Survey Results (2023-2024) Belief in divine (versus human) control of earth affects perceived threat of climate change (npj) Pew Research: The pope is concerned about climate change. How do U.S. Catholics feel about it? (2023) The Yale Program on Climate Change Communication: Climate Change in the American Mind: Beliefs & Attitudes (2025)   More From Dr. Katharine Hayhoe: Katharine Hayhoe's Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World Katharine Hayhoe's Substack: Talking Climate Katharine Hayhoe's website  Subscribe to Katharine Hayhoe's Newsletter   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Nancy French's Joyful Grandparenting Lessons & Living Like Tomorrow Isn't Guaranteed

    How Do We Shape Future Generations Well?   Nancy French returns to The Good Faith Podcast with host Curtis Chang for a heartfelt, funny, and surprisingly practical conversation about how grandparenting reshapes your view of hope, kids and screens, grief, and what's worth doing with the time you have—even is that just means "robbing a bank with a Barbie." This conversation isn't just for grandparents: it's for anyone mentoring, parenting, teaching, or influencing the next generation, with practical wisdom on choosing connection, naming loss honestly, and creating space for kids to grow "analog" and resilient. Nancy also explains why legacy and being remembered aren't the point—what matters is faithfully loving the people in front of you and passing on stability, courage, and hope that outlasts you.   02:05 - Why Did Nancy Choose a Year as Primary Caregiver To Her Grandpkids? 07:44 - No screens and the value of analog, imaginative play. 13:15 - Preserving Children's Natural Hope  14:26 - Navigating Difficult Topics with Children  17:14 - The Value of Letting Children Experience Loss  23:09 - Creativity and Storytelling with Grandchildren  25:51 - Introducing Real-World Conflicts in Play  29:19 - Grandparents as Links to Family Legacy  34:53 - George Eliot: The Value of Unremembered Acts  36:18 - Living with Cancer and Embracing the Present  42:30 - Grandparenting from a Distance  45:27 - Encouragement to Focus on fun, connection, and Presence Rather Than Legacy   Episode Companion: A Guide for Grandparents & All Those Influencing The Next Generation   Mentioned In This Episode: Demographic research: Grandchildren's spatial proximity to grandparents and intergenerational support in the United States Jennifer F. Cross, M.D.: Why screen time should be limited for kids  The Child Mind Institute: The Power of Pretend Play for Children Chicago's Harold Washington Library Curtis Chang's The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self Nancy French & Curtis Chang's The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics Nancy French's Ghosted: An American Story George Eliot's Middlemarch (epubs) More about Secretary of State Cordell Hull More From Nancy French: Nancy French's website Nancy French on instagram Nancy French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Sandra McCracken on Navigating the Space Between: Reflections on Christmas Hope

    Can a Poetic Pause Help us Embrace the In-Between Moments of the Season?   On this special Christmas Day episode of the Good Faith Podcast, host Curtis Chang and singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken each explore the nativity, the "space between" Christ's first coming and second coming, and how Christian faith holds grief and joy together in a world that often "does not mesh with Jesus." Featuring Madeleine L'Engle's poem "First Coming" and music from McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells (including "The Space Between"), this episode invites listeners to slow down, notice the small things, and find God's nearness in waiting and quiet wonder.   (00:03:02) Christian Response to a Troubled World (00:04:22) Madeleine L'Engle's "First Coming"  (00:08:35) Sandra McCracken's Christmas Reflections  (00:12:14) What Is Blessing the Space Between? (00:12:47) Songwriting and the Sacred Space Between  (00:15:10) From Christmas to New Year's: Blessing the In-Between Times (00:17:12) Nativity, Slowness, and the Nearness of God  (00:20:01) Curtis Chang's Closing Reflections   Enter the Christmas Day give away Good Faith mugs & a Sandra McCracken Christmas album   Sign up for the Good Faith Newsletter   Mentioned In This Episode: Madeleine L'Engle's The Ordering of Love Madeleine L'Engle's "First Coming" Luci Shaw's Accompanied by Angels: Poems of the Incarnation Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells Sandra McCracken's "The Space Between"   More From Sandra McCracken: Sandra McCracken's website Sandra's first Christmas album Sandra McCracken Christmas (2020)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    What's David French Thankful For? Finding Hope and Joy in Ordinary Things

    From C.S. Lewis to Luka Dončić: Celebrating Joy in Unexpected Places   On this Christmas-season Good Faith episode, host Curtis Chang welcomes back "founding friend" David French to showcase how he can give thanks in all circumstances even amid a depressing news cycle. Through five surprising "gratitudes" (from Dune and Luka Dončić to family healing and C.S. Lewis), the conversation offers a timely guide to cultivating Christian joy, resilience, and hope in anxious times. French shares why his hope isn't rooted in a "five-point plan," but in the character of God and the "light and high beauty" that can break through dark moments—even illustrated by a powerful story of forgiveness after a Michigan church shooting.   (00:02:22) - Living with Tension: Blessings and Challenges (00:05:11) - Practicing Cheerfulness and Gratitude (00:08:52) - #5: Anticipating Dune Part Three & the importance of joy and fun. (00:18:22) - #4: Luka Doncic & appreciating greatness (00:26:50) - Transcendence, and the Need for Beauty in dark times. (00:27:55) - #3: Michigan Mormons' Response to Tragedy  (00:29:22) - The Power of Redemptive Acts  (00:33:35) - #2: Gratitude for his wife & granddaughter's health after medical challenges. (00:40:32) - #1: The Enduring Comfort of C.S. Lewis  (00:49:44) - The necessity of hope and joy, especially for young people.     Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today!   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards   Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief Take our Climate Survey     Mentioned In This Episode: Trailer: Dune Part Three Trailer: Dune Part One Trailer: Dune Part Two Highlights: Luka Doncic Read/Watch: Victims raise money for Michigan Church shooter's family   Books Mentioned by C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity The Last Battle The Great Divorce The Screwtape Letters Space Trilogy Till We Have Faces     More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads     Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.  

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    Sandra McCracken on Christmas Songs That Hold Joy and Sorrow: I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day

    What Do Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and Johnny Cash Have in Common?   Singer-songwriter Sandra McCracken joins Good Faith for a short bonus episode on the Christmas songs that can hold joy and sorrow at the same time. Sandra explores the story behind "I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day"—from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's grief to its enduring promise of peace in the midst of hardship. She also reflects on the influence of Johnny Cash's version and shares what it was like recording the song with Cindy Morgan. A warm, reflective listen for anyone heading into the season with hope and heaviness.   Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today!   Mentioned In This Episode: Sandra McCracken's Christmas EP I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Sandra McCracken's single I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Johnny Cash's The Christmas Spirit album Johnny Cash's single I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day Leonard Cohen's Anthem More From Sandra McCracken: Sandra McCracken's website Sandra's first Christmas album Sandra McCracken Christmas (2020)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook     The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Is the Border Really in Crisis? Crime, Fentanyl & the Facts - with Jennie Murray

    Can We Welcome the Stranger and Uphold the Law?   How should Christians think about immigration, the border crisis, and refugees—without getting trapped in partisan talking points? In this Good Faith podcast episode, host Curtis Chang sits down with Jennie Murray, president of the National Immigration Forum, to explore a faith-informed approach to U.S. immigration policy. They explore why the U.S. immigration system is so broken and confusing, the tension between compassion and the rule of law, how immigration affects jobs, labor shortages, and the economy, all while debunking myths about crime, fentanyl, and "open borders." (02:34) - Christian first or American first? Identity and immigration (06:01) - Compassion vs rule of law? (10:36) - How the immigration system is failing (14:09) - What really drives migration (18:21) - Labor, talent, and the U.S. economy (22:12) - Who counts as "illegal" or "undocumented"? (31:27) - Law, grace, and the gospel (37:34) - Crime, fentanyl, and fear-based narratives (48:03) - What ordinary Christians can do   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards   Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Get your Good Faith mug by donating to the Good Faith podcast today! Take our Climate Survey     Mentioned In This Episode: TRAC: Immigration numbers and research  Refugee resettlement ceilings and numbers caps: Migration Policy Institute  A Turning Point for the Unauthorized Immigrant Population in the United States  Gallup Polling: Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated Pew Research Research: Majority of Americans to say immigrants strengthen the U.S. Pew Research: U.S. Unauthorized Immigrant Total Dips to Lowest Level in a Decade Lifeway/World Relief Research Study: Evangelical Views on Immigration Study Pew Research: Support for Legal Status for Immigrants Illegally Ariving as Children Bill Summary: Dream Act of 2025 CATO Institute: 72% Believe Immigrants Enter the U.S. for Jobs & to Improve Their Lives   Referenced Scripture: Leviticus 19:34 (ESV) - The foreigner residing among you Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV) - Treatment of the stranger   International Comparison Stories: Reuters, Nov 2022: Canada's immigration targets to fill workforce gaps/support economic growth DW News, June 2023: Germany aims to make it easier for non-nationals to work there The Guardian, April 2023): Australia targets skilled migrants to fill critical job vacancies BBC News, Dec 2023): "The UK government is responding to workforce shortages by expanding visa opportunities for foreign workers   More From Jennie Murray and National Immigration Forum: More about Jennie Murray Learn more about National Immigration Forum Engage with Resources from National Immigration Forum   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook     The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    N.T. Wright Explains Ephesians: The Church, Christian Nationalism, and the Armor of God

    Christianity Isn't a Nation and The Church Isn't a National Movement   Host Curtis Chang sits down with N.T. Wright to explore the explosive themes of Ephesians, including what the Bible really says about the mission of the church—not as a lifeboat escaping to heaven, but a "small working model of new creation"—a multiethnic, multicultural community that stands against the powers and principalities of our age through truth, unity, and love. Wright discusses the church's mission in a divided world, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They address modern challenges such as misunderstandings of spiritual warfare, the communal nature of the armor of God, why the "belt of truth" matters today, and how Ephesians calls the church to resist counterfeit visions of power.   (06:12) - Has NT Wright changed his mind about the Biblical truths? (12:15) - What is Wright's "small working model of new creation"? (16:15) - The new community of Jesus Christ (22:51) - The problem of Christian nationalism  (28:16) - The Challenge of Christian Multiculturalism (29:39) - The Church's Role in Spiritual Warfare (36:56) - Is the Armor of God a communal thing? (43:05) - The biblical view of men and women is not antiquated (49:19) - A final word of encouragement from Ephesians   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Good Faith   Mentioned In This Episode: N.T. Wright's The Vision of Ephesians: The Task of the Church and the Glory of God  N.T. Wright's forthcoming God's Homecoming: The Forgotten Promise of Future Renewal Lecture: How Paul Invented Christian Theology (N.T. Wright lecture)  What are the Five Elements of Christian Nationalism? Learn more: Desmond Tutu and the triumph against Apartheid  Watch: How Artistotle and the Greek philosophers influenced the idea of a soul (video) Read: How a Man Named Lesslie Changed the Way I Think   Scriptural Thoughts on Rest: Genesis 1-2 (ESV) - Male & female relationships and creation theology Ephesians 1:1-14 (ESV) - Revealing who Jesus is to the world Ephesians 2:10 (ESV) - Humankind's purpose Ephesians 6:10-20 (ESV) - The full armor of God 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 (ESV) -The guarantee of the resurrection Revelation 21-22 (ESV) - Vision of new creation   More From N.T. Wright: N.T. Wright Online N.T. Wright's Speaking engagements N.T. wright's books (Amazon)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Good Faith.

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    Andy Crouch on True Rest vs. Leisure: How Sabbath Breaks the Idols of Work and Technology

    Can Sabbath Rest Be a Circuit Breaker for Idolatry?   Host Curtis Chang and Good Faith podcast regular Andy Crouch explore how practicing true Sabbath rest can help Christians break free from burnout, technology overload, and the constant pressure to produce. Andy explains the biblical vision of Sabbath, the difference between rest and leisure, and why so many people feel enslaved to email, phones, and digital noise. They offer practical tools for burnout recovery, Sabbath rest practices, and Christian digital detox, helping listeners rediscover rhythms of rest, contemplation, and spiritual formation. If you're searching for guidance on how to practice Sabbath, how to disconnect from technology, or how to recover from burnout as a Christian, this conversation with Andy Crouch provides a hopeful path to real rest.   (02:24) - The Value of Rest Modeled in Creation (13:04) - The Cycle of Rest, Contemplation, & Creation in Modern Work (21:31) - Is Ceasing Labor Different Than Resting From It? (28:49) - Breaking Free from the Labor Involved in Leisure (32:18) - True Rest Requires Spiritual Practices (37:44) - How Can We Rediscovering Sabbath Rest Together?   Drawing from a previous conversation with Andy Crouch, this episode examines how Sabbath rest revitalizes the inner life.   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Abraham Joshua Heschel's The Sabbath: It's Meaning for Modern Man  Andy Crouch's The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place David Foster Wallace's A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again   Scriptural Thoughts on Rest: Genesis 1–3 (ESV) - Genesis and the Creation Story Exodus 20:8-11 (ESV) - The Sabbath commandment  Deuteronomy 5:12-15 (ESV) - Observance of the Sabbath Day   More From Andy Crouch: Interact with Andy's website Check out Andy's work at Praxis Read Andy's book: The Life We're Looking For Read Andy's book: The Tech-Wise Family   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    Kathleen Norris: A Sister's Reflection on Faith, Disability, and Love

    How Does Kathleen Norris Show Disability Shaping Love, Lament, and Christian Faith?   Bestselling writer Kathleen Norris joins host Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to talk about her new book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflections on Disability, Faith and Love. They share the story of Kathleen's disabled sister, Rebecca, and how her journey through perinatal hypoxia, bipolar disorder, anger, and finally gratitude reshaped their family's faith. This episode offers honest wisdom on caregiving, grief, and aging parents and siblings, plus ideas for making sense of a loved one's disability through letters and reflection. Curtis and Kathleen also explore how churches can better include people with disabilities who are "hidden in plain sight," and why love, lament, and telling the truth about our flaws are central to a life of faith.   (01:49) - What did disability mean in the Norris family? (04:00) - Discovering Disability (08:52) - The Connection Between Love and Lament (16:24) - Lessons Learned Caring For a Dying Husband (20:09) - The Complicated Journey Caregiving and Dying (29:00) - Admiring a Father's Determination (31:36) - Championing Disability Rights (37:27) - Tackling Disability Awareness in Community (41:56) - Are There Connections Between This Story and Norris' Other Books?   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Kathleen Norris' Rebecca Sue: A Sister's Reflection on Disability, Faith, and Love Listen to Amy Julia Becker (Good Faith episode 145) A Brief History of the Benedictine Order  Understanding the Holy Fool   More From Kathleen Norris: Kathleen Norris' The Cloister Walk Kathleen Norris' Dakota: A Spiritual Geography Kathleen Norris' Amazing Grace: A Vocabulary of Faith   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  

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    Welcoming the Stranger: Myal Greene on the Church and the Global Refugee Crisis

    A Christian Case For Why Refugees Matter   Host Curtis Chang sits down with Myal Greene, President & CEO of World Relief, to discuss the global refugee crisis, U.S. immigration policy, and how the church can lead the way in offering hope, welcome, and advocacy. Greene explains what defines a refugee, why record numbers are displaced worldwide, and how faith communities—from the Vietnamese boatlift era to modern Good Neighbor Teams—have transformed lives through radical hospitality. Together, they unpack the biblical call to "welcome the stranger", explore how refugees strengthen churches, and share practical ways to get involved through initiatives like World Relief's Churches of Welcome.   (02:11) - What Is a Refugee? (08:31) - The U.S. Churches' Historical Role in Resettlement (14:22) - The Christian Case For Helping Refugees (23:26) - Christians Are Immigrants (29:20) - The Ramifications of Policy Changes (43:15) - A Final Word from Myal Greene   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study   Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: 2025 Evangelical Views on Immigration Study (Lifeway Research) Notre Dame Study on the Economic Benefits of Refugees in America  Learn about Vietnamese Boat Crisis & Boat People  What is the Refugee Act of 1980  Facts about Afghan Special Immigrant Visas (SIVs)  Learn More about Evelyn Mangham  Learn more about National Association of Evangelicals (NAE)   Scripture Mentioned: Matthew 25:35-36 (ESV)  Leviticus 23:22 (ESV)  Luke 10:25–37; Matthew 25:34–40; James 1:27 (ESV) - The Good Samaritan   More From Myal Greene and World Relief: Learn more about World Relief Become a World Relief Volunteer Join World Relief's ​​Good Neighbor Teams Give to Open Doors (Organization collaborating with World Relief)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    Jessica Hooten Wilson on Isolation and the Misuse of Power in Shakespeare's The Tempest

    Wrestling with Shakespeare, Faith, and the Limits of Technology   Host Curtis Chang and Dr. Jessica Hooten Wilson—Fletcher Jones Chair of Great Books at Pepperdine University—explore The Tempest by William Shakespeare and its timeless wisdom for our technology-driven world. Through Prospero's struggle with power, control, and love, they draw parallels between Shakespeare's "magic" and our modern dependence on digital tools. Wilson explains how the play invites us to surrender our illusions of control, embrace humility, and rediscover relationships grounded in grace. Curtis and Jessica's discussion touches on C.S. Lewis, Andy Crouch, and the spiritual discipline of wrestling with hard texts and ideas in an age of easy answers from ChatGPT.   (02:30) - Dependence Upon Technology as Magic (05:40) - What Do We Forget in Our Obsessions? (11:03) - The Change in Prospero (13:41) - Engaging With Challenging Texts (18:53) - The Temptation of AI (21:40) - Celebrating Good Faith Podcast Production   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: William Shakespeare's The Tempest (entire play) Andy Crouch's The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place Genesis 32:22-32 (ESV) - Jacob Wrestling with God or "the Angel" C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man (pdf) The Tempest Act V, Scene 1: "Prospero's Speech" John 1:1-14 (ESV) - Jesus as the Word or "logos" Hebrews 5:11-6:12 (ESV) - the metaphor of milk and solid food   More From Jessica Hooten Wilson: Jessica Hooten Wilson's website Explore Jessica's books HERE Read articles and Essay by Jessica HERE   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  

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    David French on Revival, Revolution, and the Future of American Christianity

    How Are Cultural Shifts Making Evangelical Trends Look Like Revival?   Good Faith "founding friend" David French joins Curtis Chang for a powerful conversation on revival, revolution, and the future of American Christianity. Together they explore whether today's supposed spiritual movements signal a genuine renewal of faith or a political realignment within evangelical culture. From Gen Z's shifting beliefs to the rise of MAGA Christianity, they unpack the tension between true repentance and political identity. David and Curtis offer fresh insight into how Christians can pursue authentic spiritual growth while navigating a deeply divided cultural landscape.   (02:58) - What is happening in American Christianity? (06:36) - It's Complicated: Mistaking Revolution For Revival  (09:35) - What Does Revival Look Like? (12:11) - Revival vs. Revolutionary Christianity (20:09) - Empathy and Struggling With Sin Together (29:11) - Religious and Political Realignment in America (39:45) - Religious Realignment in American Churches   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: David French's article Something Is Stirring in Christian America, and It's Making Me Nervous Barna Research: Young Adults Lead a Resurgence in Church Attendance Tim Keller's article 'Lord, Do It Again': Tim Keller on Revival (The Gospel Coalition) Tim Keller's message A Biblical Theology of Revival  Read Acts 2:14-47 (ESV) - Peter preaches from Joel and repentance breaks out Read Isaiah 6 (ESV) - Isaiah's call and commission George Whitefield and the 1727 The Great Awakening What was the Azusa Street Revival? (Christian Union America) Kevin Brown's article What the Asbury Revival Taught Me About Gen Z (Christianity Today) What is Seven Mountain Dominionism? What is Catholic Integralism? Differing Opinions: Is Empathy A Sin? Some Conservative Christians Argue It Can Be (PBS) Rodney Stark The Rise of Christianity: A Sociologist Reconsiders History (PBS) Read Romans 5:1-11 (ESV) - Peace with God through faith  Listen: Good Faith episode 30 Russell Moore discusses why "crazy as a church growth strategy" is not the way of Jesus Ryan Burge: What About White Evangelicals Who Aren't Conservative?   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    Sara Billups Explores 'Nervous Systems' and How to Build a Non-Anxious Life

    Can We Move From Fear to a Holy Indifference That Teaches Peace and Presence? Seattle-based writer Sara Billups joins host Curtis Chang to explore how faith, mental health, and spiritual practices can help calm anxiety in our bodies, families, churches, and politics. Drawing from her book Nervous Systems (available November 4, 2025), Sara shares practical ways to find peace, emotional balance, and spiritual resilience amid today's chaos. Together, Curtis and Sara discuss how understanding our stories and grounding in faith can help us live with calm and clarity in an anxious culture.   (02:23) - Navigating Anxiety in Uncertain Times (04:35) - Understanding Anxiety Across Generations (18:58) - Navigating Anxiety With Holy Indifference (26:00) - Anxiety in Churches, Politics, and Systems (28:15) - Churches Cultivating Non-Anxious Presence (33:43) - Finding a Spiritual Home in Crisis (41:20) - Sara's Message a Generation of Anxious Young Adults   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Sara Billups' Nervous Systems: Spiritual Practices to Calm Anxiety in Your Body, the Church, and Politics What is Epigenetics? (Cleveland Clinic) Curt Thompson discusses generational trauma and epigenetics (episode of Curt's podcast) Ignatius' Spiritual Exercises  St. Teresa of Lisieux's Divine Office The story behind the hymn It Is Well With My Soul Frederick Buechner describes his daughter's anorexia and praying Psalm 131 (video) Frederick Buechner's Telling Secrets Matthew 26:36-46 (ESV) Jesus prays in Gethsemane Edwin Friedman's A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix Edwin Friedman's Six Measures of Effective Leadership (Jack Shitima's Non-Anxious Leader blog) Mark Sayers's A Non-Anxious Presence: How a Changing and Complex World will Create a Remnant of Renewed Christian Leaders The ignatian concept of Indifference Thomas McKenzie's The Anglican Way: A Guidebook Tim Keller's The Church in the City (Series of audio messages) Christianity Today's The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill (podcast) 22 Explore Grace Church Seattle Good Faith episode featuring Paco Amador of Little Village in Chicago   More from Sara Billups: Sara Billups' Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find the Way Home Sara Billups' Bitter Scroll (substack) Sara Billups' That's the Spirit podcast (with Morgan Page)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter  

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    When Fear Comes to Church: Pastor Paco Amador on ICE Raids and the Call to Love Our Neighbors

    What Does Faith Demand in an Age of ICE Raids?   In this first episode in an on-going series on immigration in America, host Curtis Chang talks with Pastor Luis "Paco" Amador about the struggles of Chicago's immigrant communities, especially in Little Village, where faith meets fear amid ongoing ICE raids. Pastor Amador shares stories of family separation, resilience, and gospel hope, revealing how churches stand as places of strength and compassion. The episode calls for biblical justice and unity within the church in the face of division and fear.   (03:15) - Immigration and Community in Chicago (05:49) - Impact of Immigration Raids on Community (12:54) - Immigration Rights Issues (15:35) - Community Support (17:38) - How Does the Bible Speak To the Immigrant's Experience? (19:37) - Migrants and Persecution (27:00) - A Faith Revival in Immigrant Communities (34:00) - Immigration Reform and Order (39:10) - Migrants Fleeing Collapsing Dictatorships   Episode Guide for Personal and Group Study Download World Relief's: "Let's Talk About It" conversation cards Partner with World Relief in walking alongside families displaced by war, disaster and persecution — give today: World Relief   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Images of ICE raids in Little Village, Chicago (the month of October)  Matthew 5:1-12 (ESV) The Beatitudes Acts 8:1-4 (ESV) The Scattering of the Church Genesis 12 (ESV) The Call of Abraham Justo L. Gonzalez's The Story of Christianity, Volume 1: The Early Church to the Dawn of the Reformation Justo L. Gonzalez's The Story of Christianity, Vol. 2: The Reformation to the Present Day More from Paco Amador Paco Amador: A Church With a Heart for Immigrants Little Village: New Life Community Church Immigrants Plant Churches and Revitalize a Neighborhood in Chicago (substack article)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    David French Asks: What the Heck Is a Christian Nationalist? (CLASSIC)

    How Thin Is the Line Between Patriotism and Nationalism?   Curtis Chang and David French take a hard look at the rise of Christian nationalism and its growing influence on American faith and politics. They unpack how this ideology blurs the line between patriotism and nationalism, reshaping evangelical identity and challenging both biblical and constitutional values. Drawing from history and theology—from January 6th to modern evangelical movements—they reveal how love of country can be redeemed from the distortions of fear and power. Listeners are invited to reflect on what true patriotism looks like for followers of Jesus in a divided America.   (02:30) - Understanding Christian Nationalism in America (11:03) - Defining Christian Nationalism in America (17:37) - The Emotional Identity of Lived Out Christian Nationalism (26:17) - Challenging American Identity and History (33:43) - America's Story and a Universal "us"? (36:30) - The Competing Stories of 1619 and 1776 (44:18) - C.S. Lewis on Patriotism and Nationalism (48:56) - American Identity, Patriotism, and Protecting Others (55:45) - Security About the Truth of America   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry's Taking America Back For God Thomas Kidd's Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Patriotism (article) How Many Americans Are Christian Nationalists? (article & date) David French: What Is Christian Nationalism, Exactly? (2/25/24) The Role of The New Apostolic Reformation A Critique of the Seven Mountain Mandate Derek Bell's Interest Convergence and the Permanence of Racism: A Reflection on Resistance Matt Yglesias's Great Awakening C.S. Lewis on Love of Country and Love of God C.S. Lewis on Love of Country and Love of God C.S. Lewis on Patriotism   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    Reflecting on the Beatitudes: Prayer for the Church, Our Nation, and Each Other

    Join Curtis Chang, host of the Good Faith Podcast, along with co-leaders Chuck Mingo, Sarah Billups, Russell Moore, Kaitlyn Schiess, and Mark Turman, as they move listeners through a series of guided prayers based on the Beatitudes. This pastoral effort invites the audience to recalibrate their spiritual focus and pray for the church, our country, and one another. Beginning with "Blessed are the poor in spirit" and culminating in rejoicing and gladness, this time of reflection and prayer encourages all-comers to renew their hope, reclaim peace, and follow Christ faithfully in a divided world.   (01:05) - Welcome from Curtis Chang (03:47) - Centering Silence (04:20) - Blessed Are the Poor In Spirit: Curtis Chang (09:50) - Blessed Are Those Who Mourn (13:39) - Blessed Are the Meek: Chuck Mingo (14:58) - Blessed Are Those Who Hunger and Thirst For Righteousness:Sara Billups (16:49) - Blessed Are the Merciful: Sara Billups (17:59) - Prayer For the Church Universal From the Book of Common Prayer: Sara Billups (19:45) - Blessed Are the Pure in Heart: Russell Moore (22:14) - Blessed Are the Peacemakers: Russell Moore (24:08) - Blessed Are Those Who Are Persecuted: Kaitlyn Schiess (27:35) - Prayers For the Needs of God's Work: Kaitlyn Schiess (28:39) - Rejoice and Be Glad: Mark Turman (32:12) - Hope and Joy in Christ: Mark Turman   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Scriptures Referenced: Matthew 5: 1-12 (ESV)  Psalm 139:23-24 (ESV) Amos 5 (ESV)   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    A.J. Swoboda: A Teachable Spirit In Today's Divided World

    Can Our Enemies Teach Us Anything?   A.J. Swoboda joins the Good Faith podcast to unpack how cultivating a teachable spirit and practicing true discipleship means learning from enemies, strangers, and neighbors in a divided world. He emphasizes how to recognize real experts amid alternate facts and subjective "truths," and tells how the countercultural practice of learning from anyone—regardless of agreement—fosters humility, empathy, and connection, insights drawn from his book A Teachable Spirit.   (03:11) - Cultivating a Teachable Spirit (09:38) - Reverse Prophecy and Calling Out Your Tribe (17:55) - Experts & Expertise (22:09) - Sola Scriptura vs. "Solo" Scriptura (23:27) - Jesus Would Be the Best At Anything (32:04) - Replacing Our Neighbors With Technology (45:03) - Learning From Enemies   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned In This Episode: A.J. Swoboda's A Teachable Spirit How John Calvin understood the Ten Commandments Erving Goffman's The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life (pdf) More about Fuller Seminary's John Goldengay Roger Kneebone: The Path To Expertise and Why Experts Matter Understanding Erving Goffman's concept of Civil Inattention Dallas Willard's sermon: The Genius of Jesus, part 1 (video) Dallas Willard's Jesus the Logician (article) How Should Pastors Respond to Charlie Kirk's Assassination? (article) Scriptures Referenced: The Sermon on the Mount: Matthew 5-7 (ESV) Mark 12:30-31 (ESV) Deuteronomy 10 (ESV) Hebrews 13:2 (ESV)   More From A.J. Swoboda: A.J. Swoboda and Nijay Gupta's The Slow Theology Podcast   A.J. Swoboda's Low Level Theology Substack A.J. Swoboda's The Dusty Ones: Why Wandering Deepens Your Faith  Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.

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    Elizabeth Neumann on Violence Prevention, Safety, & True Security

    How Is Radicalization A Risk in Online Spaces?   Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, former DHS counterterrorism leader, to explore the rise of political violence in our digital world. From Charlie Kirk's assassination to the role of memes, online gaming, and extremist recruitment, they uncover how radicalization thrives—and where faith communities, government, and citizens can step in to push back against hate and defend freedom.   (01:54) - Understanding and Preventing Political Violence (08:22) - The Broader Context of Rising Violence (12:03) - Addressing Root Causes of Mass Violence (21:29) - Online Gaming and Extremism Concerns (27:15) - Rating the Trump Administration's Response to the Crisis (34:09) - Government Response to Political Violence (42:34) - Jesus Followers and the Threat of Violence     Register for the Good Faith live prayer event HERE   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Recommended Resource: Mass Violence Prevention An Independent article: The sinister role of 'black-pilling' in the murder of Charlie Kirk Elizabeth Newman's book Kingdom of Rage From the U.N.:Examining the Intersection Between Gaming and Violent Extremism (pdf) Learn about: The Calm Network (764) (the United States Attorney's Office District of Columbia) Learn how Violent Online Networks Target Vulnerable and Underage Populations   More From Elizabeth Neumann: Check out Elizebeth Neumann's website Elizabeth Neumann's archived DHS biography   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  

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    David French on Political Violence in America and Charlie Kirk's Assassination

    What Does Charlie Kirk's Murder Reveal About Extremism and Division?   Host Curtis Chang sits down with Good Faith "founding friend" and New York Times writer David French to reflect on the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk and what it reveals about the rise of political violence in America. Together, they explore how formative experiences have shaped Baby Boomers and Gen Z differently, the role of influencers versus institutions, and the dangers of extremism across the political spectrum. With compassion for the personal tragedy at the center of this event, they also highlight the church's role on the path toward healing and rebuilding trust in a deeply divided nation.   Register for the Good Faith live prayer event HERE   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Poll Results: Is Political Violence Ever Justified? Why Do So Many Young Americans Justify Political Violence? (internal WSJ generational poll %s) How recent political violence in the U.S. fits into 'a long, dark history' (Politifact/PBS) Political violence in polarized U.S. at its worst since 1970s (Reuters, 2023) Spencer Cox's calls for civility spark introspection, and some GOP backlash Utah Gov. Spencer Cox decries 'cancer' of social media and its 'direct role' in every assassination over past 5 years  Pope Leo criticizes surge of nationalist political movements in the world (video)   David French on Charlie Kirk's Murder and Political Violence: David French: There Are Monsters in Your Midst, Too David French: If We Keep This Up, Charlie Kirk Will Not Be the Last to Die Roundtable discussion, including David French: The 'Fork in the Road' After Charlie Kirk's Death David French's Divided We Fall   More From David French: David French's New York Times pieces HERE Follow David French on Threads   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter   The Good Faith Podcast is a production of Redeeming Babel, a 501(c)(3) nonpartisan organization that does not engage in any political campaign activity to support or oppose any candidate for public office. Any views and opinions expressed by any guests on this program are solely those of the individuals and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of Redeeming Babel.  

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    C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters, and Emily Wilson on Women's Spiritual Battles

    Modern Challenges of Self-Worth and Lies   Host Curtis Chang talks with author and women's ministry leader Emily Wilson about faith, motherhood, and battling the lies of shame and self-hatred. Drawing from C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters and her new book Sincerely, Stoneheart, Emily explores how screens, productivity pressures, and cultural messages distort our identity—and how the truth of God's love can set us free.   (00:01) - Reimagining CS Lewis for Modern Times (04:54) - Women and Good vs. Evil (08:27) - Women and Men's Unique Vulnerabilities to Evil (13:03) - Did C.S. Lewis Miss Something About Women? (14:53) - C.S. Lewis and Friendship (19:08) - Unveiling Truths About Motherhood and Screens (28:01) - The Lie of Productivity   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Emily Wilson's Sincerely Stoneheart  Learn more about C.S. Lewis (C.S. Lewis Institute) The Background surrounding C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters  More about Lewis's friendships and the Inklings  Listen to Good Faith Episode 160 - Resetting Your Faith: Exploring the Strength of Biblical Mothers with Tara Edelschick and Kathy Tuan-MacLea authors of Moms at the Well  NIH's Study on depression, screen time, and women (abstract) More from Emily Wilson: Emily Wilson's Website  Find Emily Wilson on Instagram Watch Emily Wilson on YouTube  Find Emily Wilson on Facebook   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter

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    Dr. Alison Cook Confronts Shame, Inner Critics, & Competing Emotions

    Why Is Your Inner Life So Complicated?   Host Curtis Chang and therapist Dr. Alison Cook connect dive into conversation about the intersection of Christian faith, psychology, and emotional health. Together they explore how overcoming shame, naming emotions, and quieting one's inner critic can lead to spiritual growth and deeper empathy. Drawing on the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model, Dr. Cook provides tools to manage the competing voices within.   (00:01) - Exploring Inner and Outer Complexity (03:45) - Compassionate Curiosity and Inner Complexity (17:16) - Unlocking Inner Complexity Through Exploration (22:28) - Navigating the Inner Soul Complexity (33:48) - Cultivating Inner Harmony for Leadership (37:45) - Journey of Inner Exploration   Drawing upon material from a past conversation, this episode provides ideas about emotional health and inner well being.   Join The After Party   Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Learn more about Internal Family Systems (IFS) Model Learn more about Dr. Richard Schwartz  Dr. Anna Lembke's Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence Read Isaiah 6:5 ESV (and related scriptures) Henry Nouwen: "Finding Our Sacred Center" (video, 1994) Explaining the True Therapy in 'Inside Out' (video) Explore the 5 Things Inside Out 2 Got Right about IFS Therapy Read about The Doctrine of the Trinity: No Christianity Without It   More from Dr. Alison Cook: Explore Dr. Cook's website Listen to Dr. Cook's podcast: The Best of You Read Dr. Cook's book The Best of You: Break Free from Painful Patterns, Mend Your Past, and Discover Your True Self in God Read Dr. Cook's book I Shouldn't Feel This Way: Name What's Hard, Tame Your Guilt, and Transform Self-Sabotage into Brave Action   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter

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    Daniel's Campfire Story: Building Bridges in a Divided America

    We Can Find Common Ground Even in Washington, D.C. Good Faith's series of Campfire Stories invites listeners to hear how ordinary people are living out extraordinary faith in complex times. In this episode, Daniel, a pastor in Reston, Virginia, reflects on 23 years of ministry near Washington D.C., where politics and faith are in constant conversation. Inspired to bring the community – inside and outside of his church – together through civic discourse, he championed an initiative to create spaces for meal sharing and meaningful dialogue, creating curiosity and seeking unity across political lines. Daniel's story shows how one pastor can change the way we do church to cultivate reconciliation, hope, and community in the most polarized of towns. Send your Campfire Stories to: [email protected]

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    The Epstein Files, Conspiracy Theories, and the Church with Emily Belz & Pete Wehner

    From Jeffrey Epstein to QAnon, Why Do Conspiracies Thrive in Churches?   The Atlantic's Pete Wehner, Christianity Today's Emily Belz, and host Curtis Chang dive into QAnon, conspiracy theories, and the MAGA movement's influence on American politics, culture, and the church. From Donald Trump's messianic image to the shadows of Jeffrey Epstein, they reveal why conspiracies thrive in times of distrust—and how faith communities can fight back with truth and resilience.   (01:58) - Understanding the QAnon Conspiracy Movement (04:10) - The Impact of QAnon Beliefs (10:55) - The Role of Jeffrey Epstein's Death (17:13) - Christian Vulnerability to Conspiracy Theories (25:13) - The History of Christianity and Conspiracies (30:14) - The Grip of Trump on MAGA (40:36) - Challenges Facing Church Leadership Today     Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Mentioned in this episode: Emily Belz: How QAnon Lives On Under Trump 2.0 Pete Wehner: Trump Discovers MAGA Has No 'Off' Switch Wired: All The Times Kash Patel Promoted QAnon FOX News: AG Pam Bondi on Epstein files: 'The public has a right to know' (March 3) Politico: Outraged Trump supporters not placated by DOJ's actions on Epstein New York Times: Trump Embraces Conspiracy Theories He Only Winked at Before Life Way Research: 50% of U.S. Protestant Pastors Hear Conspiracy Theories in Church American Enterprise Institute: Findings from the January 2021 American Perspectives Survey Nicholas Carr's The Shallows More about Historical Antisemetic Conspiracies: Blood Libel More about William Miller & the Millerites   More from Emily Belz & Pete Wehner: Emily Belz's article at Christianity Today Pete Wehner's articles at The Atlantic   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up: Redeeming Babel Newsletter

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    John Kasich on Suffering, Truth, and the Power of Local Faith Communities

    Faithful Actions and a Blueprint for Societal Healing   Former Ohio Governor John Kasich joins Curtis Chang on the Good Faith Podcast to share how character, faith, and even suffering shape real leadership in a divided America. Drawing from the Governor's new book Heaven Help Us, he and Curtis unpack why objective truth matters more than ever, how faith communities and neighborhoods can spark real change, and why grassroots action beats toxic politics every time. The conversation explores the power of authentic relationships and faith-driven hope to help fix what's broken in our neighborhoods and our country.   (00:01) - Finding Faith Amid Suffering and Service (08:31) - Character, Faith, and Political Analysis (19:20) - Community Engagement and Faith-Based Action (32:51) - Inspiring Faith Communities and Hope   Send written questions or voice memos for "Ask Curtis" episodes to: [email protected] Send Campfire Stories to: [email protected]   Donate to Redeeming Babel   Resources mentioned in this episode: Governor Kasich's book Heaven Help Us: How Faith Communities Inspire Hope, Strengthen Neighborhoods, and Build the Future Ernie Johnson's Thoughts On the 2016 Election (starting at 4:05) Different versions of the scripture about Job and his friends Read about Helmut Thielecke Audio Archives featuring Helmut Thielicke A theological unpacking of Romans 8:28 Books by Tremper Longman Tim Keller's Gospel in Life website The history of the Vineyard Church in America Learn more about Convoy of Hope   More from Governor John Kasich: Governor Kasich's website Governor Kasich's book Every Other Monday: Twenty Years of Life, Lunch, Faith, and Friendship Governor Kasich's book Courage Is Contagious: Ordinary People Doing Extraordinary Things To Change The Face Of America   Follow Us: Good Faith on Instagram Good Faith on X (formerly Twitter) Good Faith on Facebook   Sign up:  Redeeming Babel Newsletter

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Join host Curtis Chang and his friends as they follow Jesus and make sense of the world. With expertise, thoughtfulness, and humor, they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, politics, work, entertainment, and other aspects of life. Good Faith is produced by Redeeming Babel. Good Faith is ranked in the top .5 percent of all podcasts.

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