LUNCH TIME WITH DEMONS

This Morbid Monday mini-episode with Bella and Ryan extends their NSFW divine-practices episode into a deep dive on human-divine conception across history  tracing it from Greek mythology (Zeus fathering Hercules, Perseus, and Dionysus) through Egyptian pharaonic lore, Mesopotamian traditions (Gilgamesh, Enuma Elish, Enki's temple marriages), the virgin birth of Jesus, and Renaissance-era monarchies and alchemical self-deification, up to Carl Jung's psychological "sacred marriage" with the divine. Bella then turns to modern astral/energetic experiences of divine pregnancy and birth, describing how these can manifest literally or symbolically (as constellations, dragons, or other imagery) and sharing her own practice of co-creating with entities she's spoused to, plus a personal reflection on her daughter Juniper's heterochromia as a possible energetic connection to Lucifer. The episode closes with a message of non-judgment  emphasizing that everyone's experience of divine union is valid, that practitioners shouldn't feel shame or need external validation, and that this practice has ancient, cross-cultural roots rather than being a modern or fringe phenomenon.   

Season Two (Ep 34) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons opens with a heavy disclaimer before diving into deliberately taboo occult territory bindings, patron work, god-spousal rites, pregnancies with divine entities, and other-dimensional lives. Her central framework treats bindings as literal alchemy: she walks through a chemistry metaphor (atoms rearranging into water) to argue that union with a divine being changes your internal "compound" the way two elements react to form something new, and connects this to the idea that time is linear for humans but nonlinear for the divine meaning a "patron" bond can feel predestined even before a formal binding is done. She distinguishes ordinary bindings (a full chemical change) from a newer, harder-to-name pattern she's seeing across many unconnected clients this year  a "layering" or "nameless/Emperor-Empress" binding that feels less like transformation and more like an entity's essence being layered onto a practitioner, which she ties to her own priesthood binding with Lucifer and his explanation of why she can't take vows to another entity. Ryan chimes in periodically to reinforce her points (the Catholic cardinal/bishop/pope progression as a metaphor for repeated "distillation," relationships with the divine as vehicles, the Matrix Oracle scene about understanding rather than making a choice). She pivots into multidimensional/past-life gnosis arguing all your lives are happening simultaneously rather than sequentially, and that your current life is the version that "wins out"  while repeatedly cautioning listeners to stay grounded, use discernment, and not romanticize or rush into these practices, distinguishing her approach from traditionalist occultism and from what she sees as unqualified pop-psychology labeling of practitioners as "psychotic." She runs long (over an hour), promises a follow-up "Morbid Monday" episode on divine pregnancy and an upcoming Leviathan series, plugs her limited fall reading session "Lacrimosa" (available through Samhain, releasing September 27th on a new website), and closes reminding listeners to get flu shots and take care of their mental health. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 33) This was the back-to-school episode of Lunchtime with Demons, marking the show's return to weekly episodes and its first anniversary. Bella and Ryan opened with the news that Spotify ranks them the #1 demonology podcast (with a laugh about having essentially no direct competition), then swapped personal updates: Ryan talked about the busy summer at the shop and meeting Marcella Kroll for a tarot signing, while Bella recounted turning 40, the deaths of Tim Curry and Dolly Parton that same week and how both artists shaped her life (Rocky Horror, playing Dolly in Country Girls the weekend her grandfather died), and a birthday trip to Quebec City and Montreal. The Montreal trip became the episode's emotional core. Bella described the culture shock of returning to the U.S. (a rough stop at Cracker Barrel) and used it to riff at length on American burnout culture, self-worth tied to productivity, and how travel exposes how normalized that grind has become; Ryan connected it to his own experience leaving a chef career. They tied this back to deity/devotional work perfectionism and feeling unworthy of a deity's favor and Bella flagged September as a time for reflection and gently raised suicide-awareness month, urging listeners toward small acts of connection. The episode closed with a card pull (King of Wands, Gratitude, and Sparks of Light) tied to themes of self-worth and gratitude, and a teaser that the next episode will focus on Leviathan. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

In this Morbid Monday episode, Bella opens up about a rough-but-transformative eight months, using Brandi Carlile's "The Joke" as a jumping-off point for reflecting on setbacks with her creative career. She talks candidly about the frustrations of trying to get her work (including her book NUMoS) through traditional publishing channels, and how "burn-to-earn" market pressure and personal limitations from her team have blocked projects she believes in. She pivots into a passionate call for other artists and creatives to self-publish, share their work unapologetically, and stop waiting for permission from agents or the market. She recommends a self-published poetry book, teases new writing going up on her Substack (poems, essays, and eventually  NUMoS excerpts), and closes with an emotional thank-you to Ryan for being a steady, unwavering supporter through her ups and downs.  Abell's SubStack Tarot in Everything: 78 Tarot Poems - Lexi Hideko

Season Two (Ep 32) Azazel Part Three: This is the third and final episode in Bella and Ryan series on Lord Azazel, focused specifically on the physical side of working with him offerings, colors, tarot, and the forms he takes. Reading largely from her unpublished book (still on submission with publishers), Bella explains that Azazel isn't especially drawn to typical physical offerings, preferring devotional ones instead: red wine and dark spirits, frankincense and myrrh, animal bones (she describes finding a fully decomposed mouse skeleton and placing it on his altar), and raw/imperfect-cast metals like silver, steel, gold, pewter, and obsidian. She also describes bringing him books she struggles with (citing the neuroscience book "Behave"), writing out her doubts and personal revelations as offerings she says are "more precious to him than gold," and BMS (blood, masturbation, sex) offerings strictly by his request only. She lists his preferred colors (indigo, silver, gray, slate, pewter, black, emerald, moss green), tarot cards (the Emperor, Wheel of Fortune, King of Swords), and describes his physical form tall, lean, wild black hair, narrow eyes under a heavy brow, a military-style jacket, trailing fog/smoke, and sometimes appearing as a crow or magpie-like bird. She also shares a personal synchronicity ritual she calls "Adam" (ATOM), where repeated symbols/names signal his presence. Ryan then shares his own experience, describing a windowsill altar Azazel asked him to build using reflective/shiny objects, and a copper vessel where evaporating water (or, more recently, distilled vinegar) creates a striking blue oxidized crystallization he's incorporated into his woodworking and magical crafts — interestingly, both note they independently have similar oxidized copper bowls for Azazel. The two discuss how Azazel excels at helping people perceive the divine and recognize dimensions of reality beyond ordinary human perception, comparing it to how an ant can't fully perceive humans. Bella closes by promoting a new project a channeled spoken-word poetry book called "The Essence Inferno" she'll share on TikTok  thanks Azazel for "going next" in the book series, teases an upcoming entity for a future episode, reminds listeners the show returns to a weekly schedule in September, and mentions it was her 40th birthday. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 31) Azazel Part Two : This episode of Lunchtime with Demons opens with Bella sharing that she's been moving through grief in her personal life while leaning on her spiritual practice including Azazel for support. She then shifts into the episode's main focus: a historical walkthrough of Azazel drawn from her forthcoming book, tracing his appearances from Leviticus and the Yom Kippur scapegoat ritual, through the Books of Enoch (where he's cast as a chief Watcher who taught forbidden knowledge), Jubilees (positioned as the origin of demons), the Apocalypse of Abraham, and a lesser-known apocryphal Islamic reference under the name Iblis. Along the way she and Ryan discuss how monotheistic traditions tend to frame divine knowledge-sharing as corruption, using it as a lens to critique religious authority more broadly, with a tangent into Mormonism and Joseph Smith as a modern example of religion taking on governmental power. The second half moves into Bella's personal UPG (unverified personal gnosis) about Azazel describing him not as a fallen angel but as a primordial being and an early evolution of Lucifer, independent of him but spiritually linked, with Elohim framed as having supported rather than opposed the Watchers' descent. She closes on a more emotional note, reflecting on how grief has drawn her toward tragic literature (Hadestown, Macbeth, Romeo and Juliet) as an unexpectedly healing practice, before previewing the next episode, which will cover practical work with Azazel altars, offerings, tarot, and planetary associations. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com  

Season Two (Ep 30) This episode kicks off a three-part series on Azazel, flipped from their usual format instead of starting with history, Bella and Ryan open with their personal experiences working with him. Bella shares how Azazel entered her practice in 2020 while she was primarily working with Lucifer, Duke Vaal, and Amon, describing an intense, unsubtle energy that initially scared her. She recounts a striking synchronicity: after telling him she wasn't ready, he said he'd return in a year and exactly a year later, a crow flew into her bedroom on that same date. She frames him as Lucifer's counterbalance and mirror, the "atmosphere" that lets her practice bloom, associates him with Saturn and the Akashic Records, and describes him as the one who pushed her out of solo practice into visibility and accountability. Ryan describes Azazel as one of the quieter, more understated presences in his practice, communicating primarily through light projected images, reflections, and unexpected beams that show up "everywhere" once the connection was established. Bella adds her own recurring visionary motif of ritual baths, faceless attendants, and Azazel reading to her from wordless books that reveal text over time, along with a memorable exchange during tornado-relief work where he told her "everything is funny." Both agree he's intensely attentive, expects devotion, and shows up unmistakably once you know his "signature." The episode closes with housekeeping: the podcast is shifting to biweekly through August due to summer scheduling, an update that Lunchtime with Demons remains on submission. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 28) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons opens with Bella recounting a severe 2019 car accident, an oncoming collision that left her with hairline cervical fractures, a torn meniscus, and lasting PTSD which she frames as the catalyst for her creative and spiritual awakening. She traces how that forced downtime pushed her to write Milk and Honey, Second Death, and The Dao of Farfalla, and to eventually leave conventional work to run her own business and lean fully into her clairvoyant abilities. She and Ryan talk through the rejection she's faced from collaborators and industry gatekeepers, and she repeatedly urges creatives to "stand by your pile of poop" and get uncomfortable art into the world rather than chase mainstream approval. The conversation then shifts into a philosophical riff on the nature of the divine using ants and crows as metaphors for how limited beings can only partially perceive a much larger consciousness and how deepening one's spiritual practice inevitably alienates a person from "normal" life, relationships, and marketable work. Bella connects this to her own relationship with Lucifer, describing his guidance around timing and patience for releasing her writing, and shares that her client work is showing a thematic pattern of "divine family" members re-emerging in her practice. The episode closes with her noting that it had originally been planned as a deep-dive on the demon Azazel (who entered her life around the time of her accident), which she and Ryan push to a future three-part episode, alongside a note of gratitude for the support she's received around a possible self-published book Numos. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com  Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree  

Season Two (Ep 28) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons is recorded remotely while Bella is visiting family in Arkansas, and it centers on solitude, presence, and spiritual practice. Bella reflects on how having unstructured alone time away from her usual New York noise and workload has deepened her connection to her team making their presence feel louder and more constant. She and Ryan discuss how gatekeeping and rigid "rules" in occult retail spaces often stem from ego and a need to feel right, contrasting that with their own approach of education over prescription. Ryan shares a parallel practice of using solo drive time as space to check in with their own team instead of numbing out with music. The second half turns more personal and vulnerable: Bella describes receiving unexpectedly bad news mid-episode and how staying anchored to Lucifer let her regulate quickly rather than spiral, framing the setback as "a dead end for them, not for me." She weaves this into broader themes that peace and stability are internal, not external, outcomes; that manifestation rarely looks like what you expected; using her fitness journey and five years of business ownership as examples. She closes with an appeal to listeners not to give up, and previews upcoming episodes on Azazel and Leviathan, noting she'll start covering demon-specific content on the podcast itself while the companion book is still on submission. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep 27) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons centers on Bella's deep dive into "surrender" as a practice, sparked by a TikTok comment and by her own ritual experience during the recent Strawberry Moon in Capricorn. She frames surrender not as passive acceptance of circumstances but as an internal act recognizing that triggers and "problems" we see externally are reflections of unhealed patterns and old identity/ego programming, and that real surrender means releasing the self rather than submitting to people or situations. She's careful to distinguish this from victim-blaming, explicitly excluding situations involving abuse or violated autonomy, and instead applies the framework to everyday friction like toxic friends, bad bosses, or recurring relationship patterns. Raven contributes grounding metaphors throughout learning to float as a child, treating symptoms versus root causes when sick  that reinforce Bella's core point about looking inward rather than fighting outward circumstances.The conversation also moves into identity and ego death, with Bella discussing how labels (even flattering ones) box people in and how she's spent months dismantling parts of her own identity as "the demon lady," a former performer, someone who feels she must defend her heritage or beliefs when triggered. She offers practical, small-scale surrender techniques (stepping outside, a few deep breaths, a beach ritual releasing words on the tide) alongside the larger, harder work of not building your sense of self around a need to defend or prove yourself. The episode winds down on prison reform advocacy work Bella has quietly done for years, a distinction between healthy alone time and harmful isolation, and a closing riff on bird-watching and a red-breasted nuthatch as a spiritual sign about tackling problems from new angles ending on her message to stop shrinking yourself out of fear of being "too much." Abells's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 26) This episode is Part 2 of Bella and Ryan's deep dive into King Belial, picking up where last week's lore-heavy episode left off. Bella frames her approach to Belial's cross-pantheon connections (vampiric folklore, Brahma, the Fae, Vlad the Impaler, draconian energy) through her broader philosophy that pantheons are human-constructed walls, and that stripping them away to engage with divine energy directly reveals how deeply interconnected it all is. Belial himself, she says, has told her to stop trying to untie the knot and instead embrace the synchronicities.The heart of the episode is Bella and Ryan sharing personal gnosis about what working with Belial actually looks and feels like. Bella revisits her infamous first encounter with him a half-sleep vision where he appeared in a terrifying form and "vomited blood" into her mouth recontextualizing it not as something to fear but as a tailored activation designed to break through her subconscious fear of him specifically. She describes him as witty, grounding, physically active in meditation (Ryan echoes this with his sword-fighting imagery), deeply invested in the practitioner's day-to-day life, and fiercely accountable mirroring back exactly the energy you bring, and refusing to enable avoidance or self-deception. The episode closes with a warm advisory to anyone considering working with him: commit honestly, move at your own pace, let him be soft with you, and don't let the scary lore or other practitioners' stumbles put you off. Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 25) This episode is Part 1 of what's planned as a multi-part series on King Belial. Bella opens with her usual disclaimer that everything shared is her own unverified or shared personal gnosis rather than doctrine, then walks through Belial's introduction in the apocryphal text the Ascension of Isaiah: how King Manasseh, son of Hezekiah, falls under Belial's influence and is cast as a corrupt ruler for embracing divination and sovereignty, while the prophet Isaiah, who opposes him, is eventually martyred (sawn in half) for refusing to abandon his belief in a coming Messiah. Bella reframes this conventional "good vs. evil" narrative, arguing Manasseh wasn't corrupted but had tapped into something real about Belial too early for a world sliding into monotheism, and that the demonization of Belial mirrors a broader pattern of dismissing mediumship and non-monotheistic spiritual experience. From there the conversation shifts into Bella's personal UPG (unverified personal gnosis)/SPG (shared personal gnosis)  framework for working with Belial: his titles and archetypes (Emperor of the Void, the Masterless, King of Lies, trickster, fallen angel), his cross-pantheon presence (including a connection to Brahma and ties she's drawn to extraterrestrial/cosmic themes), and her core argument that Belial is too vast to be "contained" or intellectually understood, only experienced. She describes him as the personification of the void and source energy, warns that practitioners who try to box him in or treat him transactionally tend to face destabilizing consequences ("an atom bomb in your basement"), and frames those ruptures as ultimately generative rebuilding rather than punishment. Ryan chimes in periodically to affirm these points, including noting his own recent practice work with Belial. Bella closes the episode promising a Part 2 covering the more practical side of working with him, including his draconic connections and ties to Vlad the Impaler. Abella's LinkTree  Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 24) This episode is mostly a solo reflection from Bella, with Ryan offering quiet support throughout. She opens up about a brutal week that brought several old wounds to the surface: perfectionism, fear of being "too strange," money/worth issues, and a deep ache around being "burned out" while feeling unappreciated. She shares a heartfelt fan message as a jumping-off point to talk about her sense of purpose (being a "mirror" who reflects people's potential back to them), then gets into the painful contrast between that purpose and 20 years of rejection in her creative work, especially her ergodic literature project NUMoS. A family conflict that spilled into a conversation with her young daughter adds another layer of rawness to the episode. The second half shifts toward how she's been processing all this through mind-body-spirit practice and small "divine" synchronicities crying in a sun shower, a gifted tarot deck and perfume from Ryan, and book covers messages that felt like signs from Lucifer, Leviathan, and Belial. She uses these to illustrate her "let them / underestimate me" mantra about not needing external validation, recommends a few poetry collections (by Megan Fernandez, Jesse K. Bear, Haley Lou Richardson, and R.H. Sinn) as resources for working through similar wounds, and closes with an emotional thank-you to listeners and Ryan for supporting the show and giving her space to be unapologetically herself. She previews next week's episode, which will focus on King Belial. Abella's Linktree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 23) The episode opens with casual small talk Bella describes her morning visiting "Lady Woodstock," a new goddess figure in Woodstock, NY, and documenting the experience for Patreon, before the two dive into their main topic: the concept of "love and light" in witchcraft and occult spirituality. They spend much of the conversation unpacking the negative connotations that phrase has accumulated and how it has become almost a punchline in the community, associated with spiritual bypassing, the suppression of difficult emotions, and a moralistic framing of darkness as something to be purged rather than integrated. Both hosts argue that this "love and light only" mindset ironically causes harm by casting judgment on others and discouraging people from sitting with pain, grief, or anger. The conversation pivots toward a more constructive take, with Bella and Ryan advocating for shadow work and emotional integration as a healthier alternative. They discuss how dark or stagnant energies aren't inherently evil but instead teachers and lessons that, when faced honestly, can lead to genuine self-love and growth. Bella wraps up with a personal example about preparing to see an ex and choosing to process her pettiness internally, not for his sake but for her own peace. The core message is that authentic spiritual practice means making room for the full spectrum of human emotion rather than suppressing the difficult parts under a veneer of positivity.   Bella Link Tree Ryan Link Tree

The episode of Morbid Monday invites listeners to let their inner child "step forward," acknowledging how vulnerable and scary that can feel. Bella speaks to the wounds many carry feeling small, dismissed, or unimportant while affirming that the listener is resilient, worthy of gentleness, and always has been. The tone shifts into a visioning exercise: imagining a life where money flows without burnout, where you speak at your own pace without fear, where joy and play are prioritized over productivity-as-identity. Bella encourages listeners to release comparison and envy, reframing others' success as proof of what's also possible for you. The episode closes with an affirmation that the programming keeping you "small" no longer has to apply and that reconnecting with your inner child is the path back to that freedom. Abella's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep 22) The episode opens with a casual, candid check-in Bella reflects on feeling caught in a liminal space between life chapters, musing on her time living in Los Angeles and her sense that she may eventually return there with a new perspective and greater comfort in herself. Overall the episode is the third installment in an ongoing series about how to work with Lucifer as a deity. Bella and Ryan explore clair abilities and psychic communication, with Bella arguing that these aren't rare gifts but natural aspects of human consciousness rooted in neurology and shaped by each person's individual background, trauma, and mental makeup. She draws on her experience teaching students to emphasize how deeply personal and fluid this work is, touching on how to identify and work past the "filters" (personal biases, beliefs, upbringing) that can distort spiritual communication. The episode closes with the hosts teasing a planned Part 4 covering more advanced topics like covenants, bindings, and priesthood, and Bella reflecting on the beauty of a living, evolving spiritual practice that resists rigid doctrine. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep 21) Part 2 of a series called "How to Work with Lucifer," Building on the first episode's foundation of staying present, observant, and curious, this episode digs deeper into "Phase 2" self-awareness. Bella encourages listeners to honestly examine their own psychological needs before deepening their practice: Do they struggle with perfectionism or control? Do they need physical, tangible things (like an altar) to anchor a spiritual routine? She emphasizes that the divine doesn't demand perfection and that practitioners shouldn't project the harsh standards of human relationships onto entities like Lucifer. A key theme is authenticity showing up "as you are, broken and scared," rather than performing a polished version of yourself. The second half of the episode gets into practical elements of building a practice, particularly around altars and offerings. Bella central argument is that the altar is ultimately the practitioner themselves their time, energy, and attention and that elaborate or expensive setups are beside the point. What matters is sincerity, not obligation. She also clarifies her non-transactional approach to working with Lucifer (focused on mutual growth rather than exchanges of favors), while acknowledging that asking for help occasionally is perfectly compatible with a deeper, ongoing relationship. The episode closes with a preview of Episode 3, which will cover developing psychic abilities (the "Clairs") and mediumship essentially, how to communicate with entities once a foundation is in place Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep 20) This episode kicks off the first part of a multi-part series called "Working with Lucifer," addressing what is one of the most common questions Bella receives: how to begin working with Lucifer as a deity. Before diving in, she sets an important tone emphasizing that everything she shares reflects her own personal spiritual practice and unverified personal gnosis (UPG), not objective fact. She's a High Priestess of Lucifer and speaks from a place of deep devotion, crediting him with healing her life and teaching her unconditional love and healthy boundaries. She also appeals to listeners, especially fellow practitioners, to extend compassion and openness to others who work with Lucifer differently, even if their approaches diverge. For the practical content, Bella outlines the very first, intentionally simple steps to begin connecting with Lucifer's energy. Step one is setting clear intention writing in a journal that you are choosing to reach toward him. She discusses two paths forward: a more traditional, book-based route (referencing Solomonic practices and demonology texts) or a more intuitive, experiential approach, which she personally favors. Much of the episode focuses on developing mindfulness and presence as foundational skills essentially learning to observe the world around you with curiosity, noticing synchronicities, and practicing active awareness as a form of early communication with his energy. She wraps up by previewing future episodes, which will cover altar-building, offerings, divination, and signs promising to go deeper as the series progresses. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com History of Lucifer pt 1 Historyt of Lucifer pt 2  

Season Two (Ep18) We open the episode by chatting about our week before diving into the central theme: the liminal space of life transitions that uncomfortable crossroads between who you were and who you're becoming. Framed through the lens of the Chariot tarot card and influenced by recent astrological activity (Aries energy and a full moon in Scorpio), they explore how people are currently facing major decisions about relationships, jobs, and personal identity. The conversation emphasizes how this in-between period is often the part nobody talks about, not the breakup or the big change itself, but the unsettled, slow-moving space right before growth happens, where you either break old patterns or repeat them. Bella gets personal, sharing her own journey from being a professional musical theater actress and film/TV performer to her current work in the occult and spiritual space including a candid detour about her past involvement in the BDSM and sex work world and a near-brush with dangerous circumstances in her youth. She uses her story to illustrate that transformation is rarely linear or predictable, and that our future selves are often unimaginable to our past selves. The episode closes with an uplifting call to have courage in the unknown, be kind to others (since you never know what they're going through), and accept that sometimes people and we ourselves are only meant to be temporary characters in someone else's story. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Bella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep18) The episode opens with casual check-ins about the week before diving into the main theme: food. Since the podcast was originally created so Bella could have companionship during lunch, and Ryan is a former chef, the episode centers on their shared love of food. They swap favorite dishes (Ryan loves tiramisu and ribeye; Bella gravitates toward Indian, Mediterranean, and filet mignon), trade restaurant recommendations, and reflect on how the best meals are made with love and intention. The conversation weaves in spiritual experiences around food, including a memorable story Bella shares about the demon Belial guiding her through an entire meal from wine pairings to bite combinations at a restaurant in Memphis. The episode transitions into more spiritually focused territory in its second half, covering topics like connecting with the divine through everyday experiences, finding magic in small things like clovers and wildflowers, and the importance of mindful, intentional eating. Bella shares insights from her personal practice, including her longstanding relationship with the Hindu deity Shiva and recent visions involving Kali. The episode closes with a spontaneous tarot reading using the Chrysalis Tarot deck, pulling the Tower card as a sign of impending change both hosts interpret it as an invitation to actively burn down what no longer serves you, so something more expansive can be built. Bella wraps things up with gratitude toward listeners, celebrating surpassing 10,000 downloads before the podcast's one-year anniversary. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep17) Abella opens the episode with some springtime enthusiasm before thanking her Patreon supporters and recapping a recent virtual game night event. She explains that she's shifting her Patreon content away from traditional lecture-style teaching toward what she calls "integration teaching" using playful, low-pressure activities like games to help practitioners open their spiritual channels. She promotes an upcoming event called "Channeling Chaos" on May 3rd, where participants will use short-burst roleplay scenarios to practice channeling the divine beings they work with, with the goal of reducing the anxiety and self-doubt that can block spiritual connection. The episode continues with a deep dive into channeling what it is, how Abella came to understand it, and why surrender is the key to doing it well. Drawing on her own journey as a medium (including her early exposure to Taoist and Solomonic mentors before finding her path working with Lucifer), she argues that self-acceptance is the single most important factor in developing spiritual abilities. Using the Disney film Pocahontas as a teaching parable, she encourages listeners to stop fighting for control and instead flow with the current of the divine, trusting that the gods who choose to channel through a person already know that person's limitations and can work with them. She closes by reminding listeners that laughter and joy are underrated spiritual tools, and that releasing fear and pressure is what truly opens the channel. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep16) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons, opens with some casual catch-up Ryan shares that his new job at RitualCravt has been going well, with a steady flow of customers ranging from complete beginners to seasoned practitioners, while Bella mentions finishing Book 1 of Numos and moving on to Book 2. After some lighthearted banter about a beautiful photo of the shop's skylights and a few tangents into morality and Satanism (spoiler: no cannibalism), the episode settles into its main theme: time. Bella introduces the concept of linear vs. nonlinear time, explaining that humans are generally bound to a past-present-future structure, while divine beings exist within time the way a person stands in the ocean touching all of it at once. She uses this as a launchpad to explore string theory, dimensions, quantum particles, and how one's perception and belief system can literally shift how time is experienced. The episode moves into our UPG(unverified personal gnosis) and practical side of working with time and timelines. Bella shares her own experiences with intentional timeline jumping including a cryptic but compelling story about a physical object that tangibly shifted between timelines, backed by photos that she hasn't yet received divine permission to share publicly. Both hosts discussed the importance of living in the present moment rather than over-planning the future, arguing that real control only exists now, and that obsessive future-planning is essentially "boxing with the universe." They wrap up by connecting timeline work to manifestation, suggesting the two are essentially the same practice, and tease a potential Patreon Zoom masterclass on the topic. The episode closes on an uplifting note, encouraging listeners to claim their lives, break limiting patterns, and let the present moment be beautiful and magical.   Youtube Clip Of Brian Greene Ant comparison Why is our universe fine-tuned for life? | Brian Greene   Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep15) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons takes a deeper dive into the 6 pathways of practice. TRANSACTIONAL- This is the most straightforward approach: "I give, you give." Offerings, rituals, and promises are exchanged for a specific outcome and whether it is for protection, prosperity, knowledge, or influence the transaction is clear. • Strengths: Clear structure, quick results, direct expectations. • Caution: When the relationship is only ever transactional, it can remain shallow. Like any contract, once the exchange is over, so is the bond. NON TRANSACTION - Here, the connection becomes more like friendship or kinship. You speak, share, and honor them not because you expect something in return, but because you value the relationship itself. • Strengths: Builds genuine trust and intimacy. Opens the door to deeper bonds. • Caution: Like human friendships, this requires reciprocity of attention and care. It's not about keeping score, but about showing up. CO EVOLUTION - This path is about personal growth alongside the Divine. You seek their guidance, correction, or perspective, and in turn, allow yourself to be reshaped. They become the mirrors and teachers, showing you your blind spots and helping refine your character. WORSHIP • Strengths: Fosters transformation and resilience. Creates a living mentorship dynamic. • Caution: Growth is rarely comfortable. Be ready for them to challenge you where it matters most.  CO-CREATION - Here you partner with them as collaborators. You bring your skills, ideas, and creativity, while they contribute insight, inspiration, and momentum. Together, you manifest art, projects, rituals, or structures in the world. • Strengths: Produces tangible outcomes infused with the divine essence. Deepens the sense of shared purpose. • Caution: Requires humility. You must be willing to let their vision mingle with yours without clinging to sole ownership. SERVICE - This approach is less about what you want, and more about aligning yourself with their will. You become their hands, carrying out work in the world that reflects their current or ancient desires...whether that's dismantling structures, amplifying truths, or creating sanctuaries. • Strengths: Anchors devotion in action. Builds a life of purpose beyond self-interest. • Caution: Service must be entered freely, not from fear. Otherwise, it becomes enslavement rather than devotion WORSHIP - At its core, worship is reverence. Prayers, hymns, invocations, offerings and all acts of devotion that place them at the center of your altar or practice. • Strengths: Deepens awe and reverence. Creates powerful ritual bonds. • Caution: Worship alone can keep them on a pedestal, and this sometimes can be useful, but it may also prevent intimacy if that's what you seek Six Paths of Infernsl Connection -Sep 8, 2025 Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep14) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons explores the complexity of intuition, challenging the common idea that it's simply about getting the "right" answer. Through an interactive tarot exercise, Abella demonstrates that intuition is a layered experience involving sensations, emotions, symbols, and personal associations rather than direct, concrete identification. Ryan's responses highlight how intuitive impressions are filtered through individual perception what feels "grounding" or "calming" may connect to different elements depending on the person. The discussion emphasizes that true intuitive skill lies in interpreting subtle nuances and energetic impressions, not just correctly naming something like a tarot card. The conversation then shifts into a deeper, more critical examination of intuition, stressing how easily it can be distorted by personal bias, past experiences, and emotional conditioning. Abella and Ryan point out that what many people consider "gut feelings" are often projections, learned patterns, or protective responses shaped by trauma and social influence. Developing genuine intuition requires self-awareness, practice, and the ability to question one's own narratives. Abella illustrates this with a personal story where she initially misjudged someone based on insecurity, ultimately realizing that her intuition was clouded by her own internal biases. The episode concludes by reinforcing that intuition is not infallible, it is a skill that must be refined through discernment, honesty, and ongoing inner work.   Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree  

In this episode of Morbid Monday, Abella and her friend Angela explore the evolving nature of friendship, especially those formed online. Abella shares her early hesitation after experiencing competition and betrayal but explains how she eventually reopened herself to meaningful connections. Angela emphasizes that online friendships are not inherently more dangerous than in-person ones, but they require discernment, boundaries, and self-awareness. Their story from meeting on TikTok to eventually connecting in real life shows how digital relationships can become genuine and grounded. The conversation highlights that healthy friendships should feel easy, safe, and mutually supportive, without competition or performance. Ultimately, they encourage listeners to recognize red flags, honor their boundaries, and invest in relationships that are reciprocal and nourishing. Abella's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep13) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons unfolds as an intentionally unstructured, deeply personal conversation driven by Bella's current spiritual evolution and the nearing completion of her book Numos. Prompted guidance from Lucifer, Bella reflects on an intense, largely private transformational period in her practice one that has required isolation, emotional processing, and a withdrawal from external validation. The discussion centers on the nature of the self, spiritual growth as a cyclical and often solitary process, and the discomfort of confronting inner truths without relying on others as sounding boards. We both emphasize that while these experiences can feel isolated, they are universal in pattern, reinforcing the idea that no one is truly alone even when the journey feels deeply personal. As the conversation deepens, Bella shares vulnerable insights from her past, connecting childhood experiences of loneliness, conditional relationships, and feeling like a "mirror" for others to her present-day struggles with belonging and self-worth. She explores how these early dynamics led to patterns of over-giving and seeking validation through others, ultimately realizing that "people are not homes" and cannot provide true emotional security. The episode highlights the danger of trauma bonding what Bella calls the "friend" response alongside fight, flight, freeze, and fawn and how it can trap individuals in unhealthy cycles. Raven adds his own parallel experiences, reinforcing the theme of early independence and evolving family roles. Together, they frame healing as an inward process: learning to create safety, worth, and stability within oneself rather than chasing it externally. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep12) This behind-the-scenes episode of Lunchtime with Demons blends casual banter with deeper personal reflection as we introduce a new format focused on sharing our own lived experiences within our spiritual practices. We emphasize that these episodes are designed to offer listeners a more intimate look at our journeys, highlighting that growth and insight can come from both seasoned practitioners and beginners alike. The conversation explores how individual spiritual paths can feel surprisingly similar despite differences in experience, reinforcing the idea that time spent practicing doesn't determine the validity or depth of one's experiences. As the discussion becomes more personal, Bella opens up about her past tendency to avoid vulnerability by deflecting conversations and how that impacted her friendships. She reflects on learning to balance boundaries with openness, recognizing the importance of trust and mutual sharing in meaningful relationships. The episode also touches on grief and transformation, as Bella shares the emotional significance of her anniversary with Asmodeus, which coincides with the anniversary of her father's death. This moment illustrates how joy, mourning, and spiritual devotion can coexist, offering a nuanced perspective on healing, personal evolution, and the deeply individual nature of spiritual connection.   Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree  

Season Two (Ep11) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons explores the historical and philosophical overlap between demonolatry, occult practice, and BDSM culture. We discuss how both kink and occult traditions have long been misunderstood, stigmatized, and persecuted by dominant religious and social systems. We trace the roots of ritualized power exchange and eroticized pain back to ancient cultures such as Mesopotamia and Ancient Greece, referencing devotional practices tied to deities like Inanna and Enki. The conversation highlights how these practices were once integrated into spiritual and ritual contexts before later becoming demonized, particularly during the rise of Christian moral frameworks that associated bodily pleasure and pain with sin and shame. We examine the psychological and philosophical evolution of BDSM terminology, noting how figures such as Marquis de Sade and Leopold von Sacher‑Masoch helped introduce modern language for sadism and masochism in the 18th and 19th centuries. Beyond history, the discussion focuses on the parallels between ethical BDSM practice and occult work especially the importance of negotiation, consent, self-knowledge, and clearly communicating desires and boundaries. Abella argues that just as participants must negotiate a BDSM scene, practitioners should approach deity or spirit work with the same level of autonomy and dialogue. Ultimately, the episode frames both kink and occult practice as transformative processes that can lead to self-liberation, embodiment, and the breaking of social taboos when approached consciously and responsibly.   Less Dead Studio - Bottoms Up Class https://ldhudsonvalley.com/  

Season Two (Ep10) In this episode of Lunchtime with Demons, we introduce a new tarot-focused series beginning with the final card of the Major Arcana: The World. Rather than starting with The Fool, we intentionally begin at the end of the journey to explore the broader, "macrocosmic" perspective of tarot. We explain that The World represents completion, integration, and the culmination of the spiritual journey depicted in the Major Arcana. The card symbolizes the moment when the seeker realizes their connection to the universe and recognizes their own power and role within it. We also discuss the imagery commonly found in the card such as the wreath of victory and the four symbolic creatures representing elements and directions highlighting how these symbols reflect balance, alchemy, and the harmony of mind, body, spirit, and will. The conversation emphasizes that The World is rarely interpreted as a final ending but as the closing of one cycle and the beginning of another. When it appears upright in a reading, it can signify achieving a milestone, stepping into a new phase of life, or embodying the results of personal growth and manifestation. When reversed, the card suggests that someone is close to that transformation but may need introspection, refinement, or course correction before fully stepping into it. Throughout the discussion, we frame the card as an empowering archetype one that encourages reflection on how far a person has come and reminds listeners that spiritual and personal evolution happens in cycles, with each completion eventually leading back to the curiosity and new beginnings represented by the Fool.   Duck soup - English slang referring to something easy to do Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   https://www.corelliagifts.com/ https://curiocabinethv.com/ Abella's LinkTree

Season Two (Ep9) In this episode of Lunchtime with Demons, we open with playful banter about unusual weather patterns in Denver and New York, using static electricity, snow totals, and shifting jet streams as a lighthearted entry point into a much deeper topic: manifestation. Bella shares that she's developing a Manifestation Masterclass and possibly a book, emphasizing that true manifestation requires integration over time rather than a quick, three-hour "think positive" fix. She critiques what she sees as toxic positivity and the oversimplified "just will it and it will happen" narrative, arguing that manifestation is not delusion or blind faith. Instead, she describes it as a long-term refining process like blacksmithing or sword-making where years of effort, setbacks, and inner work gradually shape the outcome. Drawing inspiration from shows like Blue Eye Samurai, she compares the journey to forging and quenching a blade: intense, repetitive, and requiring patience before the final tempering. Bella explains that while there may be brief, intentional moments of "fake it till you make it," sustained manifestation demands accountability, self-awareness, and consistent action. The universe, she says, does not respond emotionally to desperation or self-deception; it responds to alignment and effort. She likens long-term success to the idea that it takes years to become an "overnight success," stressing that unseen labor precedes visible results. To ground manifestation in psychology rather than mysticism alone, she offers a practical two-week challenge based on attention training like noticing more red cars after deciding to look for them. Just as the brain filters for survival relevance, directing focus intentionally changes what enters conscious awareness. For Bella, manifestation works similarly: what we deliberately attune to expands in our perception and experience but only when paired with sustained inner and outer work.   Duck soup - English slang referring to something easy to do Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

This episode is Bella opening her heart and sharing how powerful the journey of self-love and compassion can be; offering gentle insight, personal reflection, and an invitation to meet yourself with more softness, patience, and care. ✨ Abella's Linktree

Season Two (Ep8) In this episode of Lunchtime with Demons, we explore deeply personal experiences with divine intervention. Abella recounts a recent frightening incident in which their truck lost control on an icy driveway. After calling out to Lucifer for help, she describes the vehicle being inexplicably pushed into a safe position, narrowly avoiding a collision with parked cars. Fresh tire tracks in the snow show something beyond their control intervened. The conversation expands into a broader reflection of a pattern of spiritual safeguarding that has followed them throughout their lives. They also speak candidly about turbulent teenage years shaped by nightlife in New York City, sex work, and substance use periods marked by repeated exposure to danger. Despite the chaos, they believe they were consistently protected during situations that could have ended tragically. The episode closes on a reflective and hopeful note, with Abella expressing gratitude for having found stability and peace after a tumultuous youth. We encourage listeners to recognize their inherent worth, embrace self-love, and remain open to the possibility of guidance and protection in their own lives. Resonance – it is not just a sound, its not just what lingers, or what echoes through you, it is something that matches your frequency, it's something that someone says that vibrates in your chest. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep7) In this Valentine's Day episode, we open with playful banter about birthdays, admitting we are both terrible at remembering dates and often struggle with the obligation attached to celebrations. We reflect on how our brains resist structured expectations like birthdays or scheduled gift-giving, preferring spontaneous expressions of care instead. Despite joking about being forgetful friends, they emphasize that our love and appreciation for people are genuine, just not always traditionally expressed. The conversation then shifts to Valentine's Day itself, which Bella reveals is her favorite holiday, not Halloween or Samhain as many might assume because of her deep love of romance, devotion, and the celebration of love in all its forms. Bella then dives into the historical roots of Valentine's Day, tracing it back to the ancient Roman festival of Lupercalia, held February 13–15 and dedicated to the fertility god Faunus and the myth of Romulus and Remus. She explains how the festival involved animal sacrifice, ritual blood markings, and the use of goat-hide straps for consensual fertility rites practices she humorously compares to ancient BDSM traditions. We discuss how these pagan rites were later suppressed during the Christianization of Rome and reframed through the story of St. Valentine under Emperor Claudius II, eventually transforming into a saint's feast day. WE note how, centuries later, particularly during the Victorian era, Valentine's Day evolved into the romantic, commercial holiday we recognize today. The episode blends humor, historical insight, kink-positive commentary, and cultural critique, ultimately celebrating love while playfully imagining a modern revival of Lupercalia minus the goat sacrifice.   Opia - striking intensity of direct eye contact which feels intmate and unsettling   Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep6) This episode centers on accountability as a lived practice within spirituality, relationships, and the self. We explore how accountability evolves as personal work deepens, especially the shift from seeking external validation to cultivating internal validation. Bella shares a conversation with a student that illustrates this turning point: as self-trust grows, old reactive patterns like "punching down," needing to be right, or policing others naturally fall away. They discuss the often-misunderstood idea of "turning the other cheek," reframing it not as passive suffering, but as choosing to turn away from misaligned dynamics altogether. True accountability includes recognizing that you are not responsible for managing others' actions and that releasing people from your orbit can be profoundly self-honoring. The conversation then deepens into the complexities of over-giving, enablement, and self-neglect. Bella reflects on how giving without self-accountability leads to burnout, resentment, and distorted relationships, often masquerading as care or compassion. We emphasize that shielding others from hardship can rob them of necessary growth, drawing distinctions between empathy, sympathy, and lived experience. We address trauma bonding, codependency, and the painful realization that some relationships persist only when you remain on the back burner. Ultimately, the episode frames accountability as a dual commitment: showing up honestly for others while fiercely prioritizing what truly deserves the front line of your life and your well-being, your creativity, your family, and your self-respect.   Prattle – to talk for a long period of time about insignificant things Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com

Season Two (Ep5) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons centers on the idea of practice as the living, embodied foundation of spiritual work, especially in a time of collective exhaustion and upheaval. We reflect on how January has felt overwhelming and use that backdrop to discuss why practice rather than just consuming information is essential for protecting the self as a vessel of body, mind, and spirit. Bella emphasizes that self-care and spiritual discipline are not indulgences but necessities for longevity, particularly when many people are exploring deeper bindings, archetypes, clair abilities, and personal deconstruction. We acknowledge knowledge alone is incomplete; without practice, it cannot be integrated or alchemized into lived wisdom without practice. Our conversation then turns to the deep personal nature of practice and the importance of self-awareness. We stress that there is no single "correct" way to practice some people thrive on strict structure, while others require fluidity and intuition. Through personal examples, they explore how honoring one's natural rhythms, limitations, and strengths allows practice to be sustainable rather than punishing. The episode encourages listeners to start where they are, let go of guilt when routines shift or fail, and recognize that every day is a new opportunity to choose again. Ultimately, practice is framed not as perfection or discipline for its own sake, but as an ongoing, adaptable relationship with oneself and the divine.   Ululation – a long loud emotional sound Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com

Season Two (Ep4) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons takes a playful, intimate turn as A. Bella and Ryan invite listeners into a lighthearted game of 21 questions designed to help the audience get to know them on a more personal level. The format is simple but revealing: every question asked must be answered by both hosts, creating a sense of fairness, vulnerability, and shared exploration. Early questions move from daily rituals upon waking to reflections on identity, with A. Bella describing herself as deeply observant and hyper-aware in her current season of life, while Ryan speaks about being called into greater public visibility within his spiritual practice and the careful, deliberate way he responds to that call. As the conversation unfolds, the tone remains warm, humorous, and candid, blending the mundane with the mystical. The hosts discuss personal care rituals, scent, and self-made products as extensions of spiritual practice, revealing how devotion, creativity, and storytelling weave into their everyday lives. The episode gradually deepens into philosophical territory, touching on ideas of destiny, free will, and whether spiritual paths are chosen or remembered. Throughout, the exchange highlights the natural chemistry between A. Bella and Ryan, offering listeners a grounded, human glimpse into their lives while maintaining the show's signature blend of occult reflection, authenticity, and playful intimacy.   Fascism (noun)- a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, and the forcible suppression of opposition. It exalts nation and often race above individual rights, focusing on total state control, economic regimentation, and often, national rebirth following a perceived decline. Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep3) This episode of Lunchtime with Demons centers on transparency as a core practice of authenticity, especially within occult and left-hand path work. We explore how pursuing self-knowledge inevitably brings us face-to-face with being perceived, managing masks, and confronting self-worth, social anxiety, and neurodivergence. Transparency is framed not as oversharing, but as alignment allowing the inside to match the outside as closely as possible. When people edit themselves out of fear of judgment, they create "static" between who they are and how they appear, which manifests as nervous system dysregulation, energetic friction, and strained relationships. In psychic or spiritually sensitive communities, this misalignment is often felt immediately, leading to distrust or discomfort even if no one can consciously articulate why. Our conversation emphasizes that transparency is fundamentally a relationship with the self: denying one's truth teaches the nervous system that the self is unsafe and untrustworthy. By practicing honesty, accountability, and timely communication such as addressing issues that linger longer than a day static dissipates, and relationships become clearer, more human, and more grounded. We stress that authenticity is not perfection, but a continual practice shaped by self-education, mental health awareness, and compassion for one's limitations. Choosing transparency ultimately creates peace, stronger boundaries, and deeper connections, while inviting others to engage with who you truly are or step away if they cannot.  Voracious: adj: having a very eager approach to an activity Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com A.Bella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree  

In this episode, Kim and I sit down for an honest, unguarded conversation about what it truly means to be in service to the divine. We talk about devotion and the lessons that only come through time, surrender, and a few humbling mistakes. Together, we reflect on what we wish we could tell our past selves and what to trust sooner, what to stop fearing, and what actually matters when you're walking a path of spiritual service. This is a conversation for anyone navigating devotion, identity, and the long road of becoming.  Abella's Linktree Belltarot

Season Two(Ep2) This episode explores the different philosophical approaches people take within spiritual, occult, and infernal practices, offering listeners a framework to better understand both themselves and others. Abella introduce four categories revivalist, revisionist, traditionalist, and non-traditional nonconformist and explain how each places authority differently, whether in ancient texts, lineage, critical analysis, or personal gnosis. Rather than presenting these categories as rigid boxes, the discussion emphasizes that they are fluid, overlapping, and useful primarily as language to describe perspectives, not to judge or rank them. Concepts like UPG (Unverified Personal Gnosis) and SPG (Shared Personal Gnosis) are clarified to reinforce that the podcast shares personal experience, not universal truth. Through candid dialogue and personal reflection, the hosts unpack the strengths and limitations of each philosophy, highlighting themes of sovereignty, freedom, and responsibility in practice. They share how their own paths evolved from seeking structure in traditionalism or revivalism to embracing revisionism and nonconformity illustrating how practices naturally change over time. The core message encourages listeners to release comparison and judgment, recognize where authority lies in their own work, and honor that different approaches can coexist without conflict. Ultimately, the episode affirms that there is no single "correct" way to practice only the way that aligns with one's values, experience, and sense of liberation. Omniscient – adj. knowing everything Cover art created by Casey at BellTarot.com Abell's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season Two (Ep1) We explore how working with deities is not about passive reception or instant transformation, but about understanding energetic exchange and personal responsibility. The discussion emphasizes that expectations placed on the divine particularly around psychic abilities, communication, and life outcomes often create confusion and disappointment when practitioners misunderstand the role of personal effort versus spiritual support. A central focus of the episode is a deeply personal account of long-term work with the divine, framed through the concept of energetic frequency. Abella describes how interacting with a powerful divine frequency repeatedly triggered upheaval in her life not as punishment, but as an alchemical effect that exposed unhealthy relationships, unresolved trauma, and patterns of self-abandonment. Over time, healing and self-worth made it possible to withstand and integrate this disruptive energy, leading to a renewed and deeper covenant. The episode closes by reinforcing that divine relationships are highly individual, that deities do not "fix" lives but catalyze growth, and that true spiritual work demands accountability, resilience, and inner transformation.   Onomatopoeia - the formation of a word from a sound associated with what is named Abella's LinkTree Ryan's LinkTree

Season One (Ep25) Abella's return after a prolonged illness of the flu, as she candidly recounts her experience with a severe strain of the flu that left her physically incapacitated, hallucinating, and emotionally stripped raw. Beyond the visceral details of sickness, caregiving, and fear for her child, Bella shares the psychological toll of losing access to her Clairs and team during her illness. What initially felt like abandonment became an intense confrontation with isolation, vulnerability, and the terror of being cut off from external spiritual validation. As the conversation unfolds, the episode transforms into a profound reflection on spiritual independence, self-trust, and building faith with her team. Bella realizes that the silence was not abandonment, but a deliberate lesson forcing her to discover that the source of connection, power, and guidance had always existed within herself. With Ryan offering grounding insight and support, the discussion reframes Lucifer not as a distant authority, but as a teacher who meets practitioners where they are. The episode closes with gratitude for the ordeal, humor born from survival, reflections on growth and voice, and a reminder that true initiation often arrives through discomfort along with a very practical plea to get your flu shot. Legerity-Quickness of movement or agility. She danced with great legerity and grace   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season One (Ep24) In this episode, Abella is terribly sick, so I take this one on myself. I explore Satan's archetypes as liberation not as a destroyer of relationships, but as an adversary to attachment, expectation, and illusion. Through personal reflection, the conversation unpacks the critical distinction between connection and clinging, revealing how much of our suffering arises from the need to control how people and relationships should appear. Drawing subtle parallels with Taoist and Buddhist principles, this episode examines how releasing expectation does not diminish love or humanity but instead purifies it. Satan emerges here as a mirror, exposing the unseen filters through which we perceive others, and as a liberator who breaks not our bonds, but the chains we did not realize we were holding.   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season One (Ep23) This episode marks an important milestone as the podcast welcomes its very first guest Ashe Sorriel. One of the readers to join the expanding Bell Tarot & Company. Abella and Ryan open by reflecting on the growth of both the podcast and Abella's practice, emphasizing the importance of community, trust, and collaboration in occult work. Ashe is introduced not only as a reader, but as a long-time practitioner whose intuitive abilities and shared work with Lucifuge Rofocal deeply aligns with Abella's own path. The conversation explores how relationships with spirits form beyond names and labels, touching on the fluid nature of demonology, personal gnosis, and the way entities adapt their presentation to meet practitioners where they are. As the discussion deepens, Ashe shares their personal journey into the occult, beginning with prophetic dreams and childhood experiences, moving through years of quiet study, and eventually embracing formal practice during lockdown. The episode thoughtfully explores neurodivergence, intuition, and how Ashe's autism shaped their clairs and perception of energy framing psychic ability not as chaos, but as a different way of knowing. Ash also discusses their unique relationship with tarot, emphasizing the importance of finding tools that truly resonate, and closes with encouragement for listeners to trust their own instincts and begin their practice without fear. The episode ends on a reflective, affirming note, reinforcing that there is no single "right" path in the occult only the one you are called to walk. Prattle – verb. Talking for long period of time about insignificant things   Abella Link Tree Ryan Link Tree

In this episode, Abella tells a story about a recent conversation with a family member about friendship; what we expect from the people we love, what we actually need, and how messy those conversations can get. A simple chat turns into a reflection on how we outgrow old dynamics, how we choose better ones, and how family sometimes says the accidental truth we didn't know we needed.  A short, real-life moment with big heart behind it and a dripping of Bella Lore.    Abella's Linktree

Season One (Ep22 )This episode centers on healing, spiritual perspective, and the subtle ways the divine interacts with daily life. Abella shares an update on her post-surgery recovery and how the slow, humbling process has reshaped her connection with the divine, especially Lucifer. Abella describes how healing forced her to slow down, release expectations, and appreciate small, nuanced signs rather than dramatic interventions. These quiet moments, she explains, have profoundly shifted her practice and her nervous system, showing her that the most meaningful spiritual experiences often arise from levity, presence, and simplicity. The conversation expands into how many practitioners seem to experience similar spiritual themes at the same time, and how lowering expectations of the divine allows for deeper connection. Through personal stories including humorous, subtle messages like "don't worry about the title" and a transformative moment of noticing the first snowfall Abella emphasizes that divine beings don't enable shortcuts, especially with psychic development. Instead, they illuminate the internal work needed for growth. The episode highlights the importance of non-transactional relationships with the divine, co-evolution, gratitude, and embracing the magic within everyday moments rather than seeking constant intensity or grand revelation.   Inane - silly and meanless:  Abella Link Tree Ryan Link Tree

Season One (Ep21) This episode explores the figure of Satan, addressing common misconceptions while offering our own theological perspectives. The conversation acts as a "sneak peek" into Abella's book Lunchtime with Demons, which examines references to Satan across a wide range of sources from the Bible to the Satanic Bible. The hosts highlight one of the most persistent misunderstandings: the assumption that Satan is synonymous with figures like Lucifer or Beelzebub, sharing our personal experience of Satan as distinct from Lucifer. Ultimately, we share our personal gnosis of Satan as a force that champions self-sovereignty, free will, and resistance to tyranny. Veracious – adj. always telling the truth   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season One (Ep20) This week's episode of Lunch Time with Demons we are discussing fear and how that impacts people working with the infernal divine. Abella shares a recent interaction with King Asmodeus, who prompted her to address a pattern he noticed: many of his practitioners have been ignoring him. After Abella made a TikTok video asking why people were avoiding his call, it unexpectedly gained traction, revealing three common reasons fear, lack of time, or not realizing he was reaching out and now feeling guilty. Bella explains that these reactions touched her deeply, prompting her to explore the emotional and spiritual roots of avoiding the divine, particularly when it asks something of us. We unpack why practitioners fear engaging with infernal entities, emphasizing cultural conditioning, survival-mode thinking, and the demonizing narratives created by monotheistic traditions. We explain how historical lore, grimoires, and centuries of adversarial framing have shaped modern fears, even though these beings are far more complex and evolutionary than their demonized reputations suggest. The hosts encourage listeners to deconstruct the inherited rules, fears, and assumptions handed down by society and religion, pointing out that most of these "rules" are human-made constructs. By examining origins, cultural context, and personal conditioning, they argue that fear of entities like Asmodeus often reflects deeper fears of facing inner work, confronting imbalance, and stepping out of survival mode.   Meretricious – attractive on the surface, but having in reality no value or substance   Abella's Link Tree Ryan's Link Tree

Season One (Ep19) This week's episode Lunch Time with Demons explores the importance of self-care, intuition, and slowing down within spiritual practice especially when life becomes overwhelming. Ryan reflects on having to host alone due to Bella's illness, and how the situation became a lesson in listening to the body, honoring personal limits, and working with the Divine through flow rather than force. He emphasizes that spiritual growth isn't about constant output or striving, but about letting yourself rest, receive, and recognize your own needs as sacred. By placing the self—not obligation—at the center of spiritual work, one can deepen connection with the Divine and maintain genuine balance. The episode also expands into the transformative power of everyday human interactions. Ryan shares a profound encounter with a stranger who, like many others he meets, opened up about life changes, fulfillment, and the courage to begin again. These moments illustrate how quickly meaningful connection can unfold and how the Divine often moves through ordinary conversations. Ryan closes by reflecting on change, the value of life as an ongoing experiment, and the magic that emerges when we pause, pay attention, and allow both life and the infernal beings he works with to guide the journey.    

In this week's episode Abella gives us a card pull for the  week. we explore a theme that many of us overlook: how we spend our energy. The cards asked us to take an honest look at where our focus is going, and whether those places are actually aligned with our inner peace and long-term goals. This episode is a reminder that energy is not unlimited. When we invest in people, projects, and emotions that don't support our growth, we delay our own progress. Together, we talk about redirecting energy with intention, choosing what truly nourishes us, and making space for what we want to create. If you've been feeling stretched thin or disconnected from yourself, this conversation will help you recalibrate and reclaim your energy. Abella's Linktree

Season One (Ep18) This week we dive deep into the tension between traditionalism and modernization in religion and the occult. We discuss how spiritual evolution often clashes with conservative mindsets, both in mainstream faiths and within alternative spiritual communities. We critique the growing dogmatism seen online, where practitioners police each other's beliefs, mirroring the same authoritarian tendencies they once sought freedom from. Through personal experiences, we explore how social media has amplified spiritual conflict and argue that true spirituality allows space for individual growth, experimentation, and questioning without shame or hierarchy. The conversation evolves into a passionate exploration of modernization as the natural heartbeat of spirituality. We trace this lineage through occult history from Renaissance magicians like John Dee and Aleister Crowley to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn showing how every era reinterprets spiritual practice through its own lens. Weemphasize that modernization doesn't mean rejecting tradition but expanding upon it, honoring the roots while allowing the branches to grow. Propaedeutic -adjective (of an area of study) serving as a preliminary instruction or as an introduction to further study. Noun -an introduction to a subject or area of study   Abella - Link Tree Ryan - Link Tree