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Rolling For Revenue
by casey washack
The Rolling For Revenue Podcast is for jiu-jitsu school owners who are world-class on the mats, but tired of feeling like white belts in business.Hosted by Casey Washack, black belt, gym owner, and author of Rolling For Revenue, this podcast breaks down the exact systems, strategies, and mindset shifts needed to build a profitable, sustainable jiu-jitsu academy, without burning out or selling out your values.Each episode bridges the gap between passion and profit, pulling real-world lessons from over two decades in the fitness and martial arts industry. You’ll learn how to:Increase revenue without relying on constant discountsImprove retention and build a culture families stay in for yearsCreate simple marketing systems that actually workStructure offers, pricing, and programs that support your lifestyleStop trading endless hours for limited incomeThis isn’t theory. I
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Stop Being The Atlas Owner
The podcast discusses the challenges faced by Jiu Jitsu school owners and the need to delegate responsibilities in order to grow. It emphasizes the importance of hiring as a math problem and the significance of implementing systems for effective delegation.TakeawaysDelegate to growHiring is a math problemChapters00:00 The Atlas Owner: Overwhelm and Burnout08:13 The Importance of Systems and Delegation
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Marketing Agencies Are a Drug (And You're Addicted)
The podcast introduces the Rolling for Revenue Podcast and discusses the pitfalls of marketing agencies, the problems with quick fix programs, the impact on gym culture, the addictive nature of quick fixes, overloading the business with new clients, the importance of fundamentals, the value of lifetime customer value, and the role of marketing in business growth.TakeawaysMarketing Agencies as a DrugThe Pitfalls of Quick Fix ProgramsChapters00:00 Introduction to the Rolling for Revenue Podcast05:10 The Problems with Quick Fix Programs12:26 The Addictive Nature of Quick Fixes23:19 The Value of Lifetime Customer Value29:21 The Role of Marketing in Business Growth
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Nike or Walmart? How Your School's Environment Sets Your Price
The conversation explores the impact of branding and perception on consumer behavior, as well as the importance of creating a high-value environment in business. It delves into the significance of brand identity and the influence of environment on the perceived value of products and services.TakeawaysBranding and perceptionCreating a high-value environmentChapters00:00 Branding and Perception
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What Do You Actually Want From Your School?
The conversation delves into the importance of clarity and purpose in business, using a powerful parable to illustrate the concept. It emphasizes the significance of knowing the destination and creating a roadmap to achieve business goals.TakeawaysClarity of purpose is essentialKnowing the destination is crucialChapters00:00 The Business Parable12:29 Creating a Roadmap
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Why Trying to Sell to Everybody Is Killing Your Gym’s Success
The podcast episode discusses the importance of identifying the perfect client and understanding the target market for a business. It emphasizes the need to align staff perspectives and target families and non-competitors. The episode concludes with an exercise to identify the perfect client and align the team with the mission.TakeawaysIdentifying the perfect clientUnderstanding the target marketChapters00:00 Introduction to Rolling for Revenue Podcast06:13 Aligning Staff Perspectives
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The Pricing Strategy That Changes Everything
Casey Washack introduces the Rolling for Revenue Podcast and discusses the concept of a pricing anchor, handling objections, building rapport, and guiding to pricing options. He also emphasizes the impact of a pricing anchor on consumer behavior and decision-making.TakeawaysThe importance of creating a pricing anchor in businessThe psychological impact of a pricing anchor on consumer decision-makingChapters00:00 Introduction to Rolling for Revenue Podcast07:03 Guiding to Pricing Options
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Stop Selling Jiu Jitsu
The conversation emphasizes the importance of selling outcomes rather than just the product or service. It also highlights the significance of understanding the customer's goals and marketing to those goals. By focusing on these key aspects, businesses can improve their marketing strategies and better connect with their target audience.TakeawaysFocus on selling outcomes, not just the productUnderstand the customer's goals and market to thoseChapters00:00 Understanding Customer Goals
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Community Wont Save Your School
The Rolling for Revenue Podcast emphasizes the importance of structured systems and guidance for long-term retention in Jiu Jitsu schools. It discusses the need for empathy, understanding, and structured progress phases to prevent student dropouts, especially at the blue belt level. The podcast highlights retention as a priority over marketing, emphasizing the significance of plugging retention 'holes' before focusing on acquiring new members.TakeawaysRetention requires more than just a strong communityStructured systems and guidance are essential for long-term retentionChapters00:00 Retention as a Priority over Marketing
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The Hidden Mat Fee: How Your Mindset Is Stealing Revenue Every Month
The podcast episode explores the connection between self-belief and pricing, emphasizing the importance of value creation and belief in the value of the offering. It delves into personal experiences with pricing and value, highlighting the impact of changing belief in pricing and value creation.TakeawaysPricing reflects self-beliefValue creation drives pricingBelief in the value of the offering is crucialChapters00:00 Changing Belief in Pricing and Value Creation
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One Size Fits None: The Case For Tiered Pricing In Your Bjj School
The podcast discusses the limitations of flat monthly rates in Jiu Jitsu gyms and the opportunity in creating tiered pricing to allow for individual growth paths. It emphasizes the impact of leadership in creating paths for beginners, intermediate, and advanced students, and how this approach can lead to better retention and business growth.TakeawaysTiered pricingCreating paths for growthChapters00:00 The Limitation of Flat Monthly Rates06:27 Leadership and Creating Paths
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The Riches Are In The Niches
The conversation begins with an introduction to the Rolling for Revenue Podcast, followed by a discussion on the importance of specificity in marketing and how to apply Jiu Jitsu principles to marketing strategies. The key takeaways include the importance of being specific in marketing to attract the right audience and the benefits of niching down to focus on specific types of people.TakeawaysSpecificity in marketing attracts the right audience fasterNiche down to focus on specific types of peopleChapters00:00 Introduction to Rolling for Revenue Podcast
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The Burnout Myth Many School Owners Believe
Casey Washack discusses the concept of burnout and suggests that it may actually be a lack of direction. He emphasizes the importance of having a clear target and mission for progress, both in Jiu Jitsu training and in business. The impact of purpose and mission on business growth and progress is highlighted, emphasizing the need for a clear target and a specific goal to drive energy and focus.TakeawaysBurnout may be a result of a lack of direction and purpose.Having a clear target and mission drives energy and focus for progress in both training and business.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Rolling for Revenue Podcast05:15 The Importance of Purpose and Mission in Business
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The Truth Behind the Recent Jiu Jitsu School Controversies
The podcast discusses the challenges of leadership and ethics in the Jiu Jitsu community, emphasizing the importance of structure, discipline, and moral integrity. It also addresses the need for a safe and inclusive training environment, free from political and divisive influences.TakeawaysLeadership and ethics are crucial in the Jiu Jitsu communityA safe and inclusive training environment is essential for growth and developmentChapters00:00 Focusing on Personal Growth and Development
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Why 10X Growth Is Actually Easier Than 2X for Jiu-Jitsu School Owners
Casey Washack discusses the concept of 10X growth in the context of Jiu-Jitsu business, emphasizing the importance of evolving leadership and building a sustainable academy. He contrasts 2X thinking with 10X thinking, highlighting the need to eliminate low-margin programs, distractions, and tasks outside one's unique ability.Takeaways10X growth requires a shift in mindset from doing more to becoming different.Building a sustainable academy involves evolving leadership, creating standards, and developing systems for long-term success.Chapters00:00 Building Something That Outlasts You
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The Hidden Danger of Paid-in-Full Memberships (That Nobody Talks About)
The conversation delves into the impact of paid in full memberships on business stability, the illusion of profit and growth, the borrowed revenue concept, artificial growth and shrinking stability, the truth about paid in fulls, and the flexibility of paid in fulls. It emphasizes the importance of recurring revenue for business stability and the potential risks associated with paid in full memberships.TakeawaysPaid in full memberships can impact business stabilityRecurring revenue is crucial for business stabilityChapters00:00 The Impact of Paid in Full Memberships05:05 The Flexibility of Paid in Fulls
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Your Pricing Is Costing You Thousands!
The podcast discusses the need for jiu-jitsu schools to evolve their pricing strategy from traditional one-size-fits-all models to tiered pricing. It highlights the impact of tiered pricing on students, the financial implications, and the resistance to change, emphasizing the importance of belief, authenticity, and the freedom of choice for clients.TakeawaysTiered pricing strategyEvolution of pricing in jiu-jitsu schoolsChapters00:00 The Problem with Traditional Pricing06:06 The Importance of Belief and Authenticity
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Small Groups. Big Profits. The Future of Jiu Jitsu Training
Casey Washack discusses the concept of structured semi-private training sessions in Jiu Jitsu schools, highlighting its benefits, challenges, and implementation strategies. He emphasizes the potential for revenue growth and improved student experience through this approach.TakeawaysStructured semi-private training can increase revenue without adding new members.Semi-private training creates better value, culture, and leadership within Jiu Jitsu schools.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Jiu Jitsu Business Podcast05:22 Benefits of Semi-Private Training
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Grow Your School Without Social Media
The conversation focuses on redefining growth strategy for Jiu Jitsu academies and reducing dependency on social media for business growth. It emphasizes the importance of community marketing and building a system around referrals to create sustainable growth.TakeawaysCommunity marketing over social mediaBuilding a system around referralsChapters00:00 Redefining Growth Strategy and Social Media Dependency
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Leverage AI to Grow Your School
The podcast discusses the potential of AI for small businesses, emphasizing the leverage it provides and its role in marketing, retention, curriculum structure, operational systems, and revenue expansion. The conversation highlights the importance of embracing AI to stay competitive and efficient in the market.TakeawaysAI for small businessesLeverage through AIChapters00:00 The Power of AI for Small Businesses05:45 AI for Revenue Expansion
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The Business is Plateauing, Why?
The podcast discusses the identification of business plateaus and the need for evolution, emphasizing the importance of implementing systems and automation for business growth. It also explores the evolution of leadership, the development of coaches, and the delegation of responsibilities to foster growth and overcome plateaus. The episode concludes with insights on implementing business systems for consistent growth and impact.TakeawaysBusiness plateaus indicate the need for evolutionImportance of implementing systems for business growthChapters00:00 Identifying Business Plateaus07:17 Evolution of Leadership and Systems13:31 Fostering Growth and Overcoming Plateaus
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Assume the Throne
Casey Washack discusses the concept of 'assuming the throne' in the context of running a Jiu Jitsu business. He emphasizes the importance of being the best in your town, maintaining professionalism, and defining a mission for your school.TakeawaysAssuming the throne means being the best in your areaMaintaining professionalism and a positive image is crucial for business success.Chapters00:00 Assuming the Throne
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Championship Caliber Jiu Jitsu But School Is Struggling
The conversation emphasizes the critical role of leadership in the context of Jiu Jitsu schools, highlighting the impact of soft skills on school growth and success. It delves into the importance of leadership and the essential nature of soft skills in creating a thriving Jiu Jitsu school.TakeawaysLeadership is crucialSoft skills are essentialChapters00:00 The Impact of Soft Skills on Jiu Jitsu School Growth
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The 3 Ways to Grow Your Business
Casey Washack discusses three key ways to increase revenue in a Jiu-Jitsu business: acquiring more members, maximizing revenue from current members, and raising rates. He emphasizes the importance of marketing, community engagement, and strategic planning to achieve revenue growth. Additionally, he provides insights into the opportunities and challenges in the Jiu-Jitsu business, including retail, services, and customer preferences.TakeawaysAcquiring more members through marketing and community engagementMaximizing revenue from current members through retail, services, and strategic planningStrategic timing and communication for rate adjustments and future plansChapters00:00 Introduction to Rolling for Revenue Podcast05:48 Revenue Generation through Retail and Services12:04 Retraining Members for New Offerings18:47 Strategic Timing for Rate Adjustments
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More Leads Wont Fix Your Gym
The podcast discusses the importance of retention in a Jiu Jitsu business, highlighting the need to focus on retaining existing members rather than constantly seeking new ones. It emphasizes the significance of maximizing the first 90 days and creating a sense of community and recognition within the gym.TakeawaysRetention is keyMaximizing the first 90 daysChapters00:00 Creating a Roadmap
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The Passion Trap
The podcast episode discusses the challenges faced by Jiu Jitsu school owners, emphasizing the importance of pricing and value, as well as the need for business skills and passion. It explores the impact of Jiu Jitsu, creating impact and revenue, designing the business for lifestyle, and the crossroads of business skills and passion in the context of the Jiu Jitsu business.TakeawaysPricing and ValueBusiness Skills and PassionChapters00:00 The Martyrdom of Success06:12 Creating Impact and Revenue
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The Day Of Reckoning Is Coming
The podcast discusses the impending changes in the jiu-jitsu industry and the need for a comprehensive approach to training. It emphasizes the cultivation of student identity and the importance of guiding students through challenges, empowering them through transparency, and nurturing their overall identity.TakeawaysIdentity cultivationComprehensive approach to trainingChapters00:00 The Reckoning in Jiu-Jitsu05:57 Cultivating Knowledge and Identity12:09 Nurturing Student Identity
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The First 90 Days
The conversation explores the client journey and the importance of nurturing customer relationships at various stages. It delves into strategies for managing buyer's remorse, creating habits, providing individualized care, and implementing retention strategies to keep customers engaged and committed.TakeawaysClient journey stagesNurturing customer relationshipsChapters00:00 The Client Journey05:02 Creating Habits
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Integrity In Pricing
The podcast episode discusses the importance of pricing integrity and value-based pricing in the context of a Jiu-Jitsu business. It emphasizes the need to set a standard price, create value, and reframe pricing to ensure business success.TakeawaysPricing integrityValue-based pricingChapters00:00 Setting the Price Standard06:01 Creating Value and Pricing
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Systems Are Jiu Jitsu
Casey Washack discusses the importance of implementing systems in Jiu Jitsu schools to create structure, clarity, and cohesion. He emphasizes the impact of systems on class structure, client onboarding, handling client situations, and the overall benefits of systems in business. The key takeaways include the idea that structure equals freedom and how systems create clarity and cohesion within the Jiu Jitsu community.TakeawaysStructure equals freedomSystems create clarity and cohesionChapters00:00 The Importance of Systems in Jiu Jitsu08:04 Client Onboarding and Journey16:06 Benefits of Systems in Business
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Rolling For Revenue Podcast is for jiu-jitsu school owners who are world-class on the mats, but tired of feeling like white belts in business.Hosted by Casey Washack, black belt, gym owner, and author of Rolling For Revenue, this podcast breaks down the exact systems, strategies, and mindset shifts needed to build a profitable, sustainable jiu-jitsu academy, without burning out or selling out your values.Each episode bridges the gap between passion and profit, pulling real-world lessons from over two decades in the fitness and martial arts industry. You’ll learn how to:Increase revenue without relying on constant discountsImprove retention and build a culture families stay in for yearsCreate simple marketing systems that actually workStructure offers, pricing, and programs that support your lifestyleStop trading endless hours for limited incomeThis isn’t theory. I
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