The Dare to Multiply Podcast

Most churches say discipleship matters. So why do we so rarely see it multiply? In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia Anderson explores a tension many pastors, practitioners, and Christian leaders feel—but don’t always name: discipleship is often emphasized, taught, and programmed… yet reproduction rarely follows. This conversation isn’t about blame or better techniques. It’s about re‑examining what Jesus actually did—and what happens when discipleship shifts from information transfer to obedience‑based, life‑on‑life formation.

In today’s episode, Cynthia sits down with three seasoned multipliers who have witnessed extraordinary transformation inside America’s prisons. What began with simple obedience has led to inmates coming to faith in Christ, being baptized, forming churches behind bars—and continuing to multiply disciples even after release. These practitioners share the key paradigm shifts that allowed multiplication to emerge in a context often approached with addition‑focused ministry. They reflect honestly on what had to change in mindset, leadership, and practice in order to see sustainable, Spirit‑led fruit. This conversation offers rare, practical insight for anyone involved in prison ministry, disciple‑making, or movement leadership. You’ll hear powerful stories and hard‑won wisdom from those working on the front lines of what may be one of the most overlooked—and significant—moves of God in the United States today. If you’ve ever wondered what disciple‑making looks like in places of confinement—or how multiplication can flourish where hope seems scarce—this episode will both challenge and encourage you.

What does trauma‑aware disciple making actually look like—and how can it still multiply? In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia Anderson interviews a practitioner who walks closely with trauma survivors and has seen discipleship grow and multiply among them. Together they explore why safety, listening, and patience matter deeply when discipling those who carry trauma—and what this reveals about Jesus’ way of healing, obedience, and restoration. You’ll hear why rushing to Scripture can hinder healing, how grief and brokenness are not barriers to obedience, and how God often uses people who are healing to bless and disciple others. 🔗 Learn more: https://multiplyinghope.org 📩 To contact Hallie: [email protected]

In this episode, we explore a critical but often overlooked difference at the heart of disciple‑making. Jesus didn’t command us to simply transfer information. In the Great Commission, He tells us to teach people to obey everything He commanded—not just to know it. Using Matthew 28:20, a key Greek word study, and practical disciple‑making insight, we unpack why information‑based teaching often fails to produce transformation—and what it looks like to train people for obedience, practice, and replication. This conversation is especially for pastors, leaders, missionaries, and disciple‑makers who sense that content alone isn’t producing the fruit we long to see.

What made the early church grow before there were buildings and programs? This episode explores Acts‑based insights on relational growth, obedience‑driven discipleship, and dependence on the Holy Spirit—and what that means for church leaders and movement practitioners today.

In this episode, Jenn talks to Adele, a mom who has multiplied disciples in multiple cities and contexts over 30 years while raising 4 kids!

In his newly released book David Garrison pulls back the curtain on 28 movement assessments done by the International Mission Board (IMB).  Today on the podcast, Cynthia talks with David about these assessments, what we can learn from them and how assessments can help movement practitioners and those pursuing multiplication.   

In this podcast Cindy and Jenn examine the vital role of steadfastness for disciple-makers pursuing movements. They blend personal testimony and practical counsel, introducing perseverance as essential, countering the misconception that movements are always fast by emphasizing patient, daily obedience amid inevitable suffering and opposition. Together they unpack perseverance in everyday ministry—surrendering timing, methods, and outcomes to God.

What happens when you are the only foreigners in a remote village, ten hours from the nearest store?  On this episode we hear from Sergio, a Chilean missionary who crossed cultures to share with Muslims in Africa.  Amazing miracles took place as they told stories of the prophets and discipled in spite of obstacles, resistance and struggles with syncretism.  

In this episode, we interview Shanee and Jesse Snodgrass, a couple who spent over 20 years as movement catalysts, multiplying disciples in India, Nepal, and Europe. On top of raising 3 kids! We will learn from their story and experiences about how to multiply disciples as a family and go over some best practices for how families overseas can pursue multiplication together!

In this episode, Jenn and Cynthia are joined by their husbands as the series continues. Despite their different personalities and relationship styles, each couple shares insights that reveal key principles for growing and working through this together—offering hope, encouragement, and practical wisdom for couples on a similar path.

In episode two of our series on couples leading and discipling together, Todd and Cynthia open up about the real challenges they’ve encountered. Through honest reflection, they share principles and solutions that helped them move forward in a healthy way. No matter your situation, you’ll find this episode relatable, encouraging, and hope-filled.

In this episode, Steven and Jenn kick off a new series on couples leading and discipling together! Through lessons learned from their own marriage, they share principles of why couples working together is both important and effective in multiplying disciples. This episode casts a vision of how thriving marriage AND ministry is not only possible, but something we can expect from God!  

If you’re tired of training believers who still aren’t making disciples, this episode is your breakthrough! Discover the four crucial elements missing from most church training—and how Jesus’ apprenticeship-style approach in Luke 9–10 can transform passive learners into confident, competent disciple-makers. We’ll show you how to move beyond information-heavy classes to hands-on skill development, real-life modeling, goal-setting, and powerful accountability rhythms. Learn the MAWL method (Model, Assist, Watch, Launch) and pick up practical tools that help your people actually do the work of evangelism and multiplication. If you want to ignite bold, active disciple-makers in your church or ministry, you won’t want to miss this episode!

In this insightful conversation, Cynthia and Cory Hartman of New Generations explore how Disciple‑Making Movement terminology has developed, evolved, and continues to shift as God is at work around the world. Listeners will gain a clearer understanding of commonly used movement terms, their historical context, and why language matters for those engaged in disciple‑making today.

What does it mean to make disciples like Jesus and Paul—empowered by the Holy Spirit? In this inspiring conversation, Florian shares incredible stories of healing, deliverance, words of knowledge, and even raising the dead. You’ll learn how God uses ordinary believers—even those new or feeling weak in faith—to demonstrate His power and advance His Kingdom. Plus, discover practical ways you can grow in living a Spirit-led life and making disciples wherever you are.

Why does it sometimes feel like pursuing God’s call to multiply disciples comes at the expense of our intimacy and abiding with Jesus? In this interview, David Cervenka, a movement practitioner and former team leader in Japan and strategy coordinator for Greater Austin Mission Society, shares the lessons he has learned from God through a season of burnout and restoration in the Lord. What does it look like to pursue movement in the timing of the Holy Spirit? How do we make God’s love for us our primary joy over visible fruit in ministry? How does loving our families and our children flow into multiplication work? How do we pursue great works for God without losing our souls?

What does it look like to make disciples in the workplace? In this conversation with Ramon Mayo, we explore how God can turn setbacks—like losing a job—into opportunities for greater fruitfulness. Ramon shares powerful stories and practical insights on recognizing everyday opportunities, listening to the Holy Spirit, and living authentically as a follower of Jesus at work. From using break times intentionally to letting even casual jokes spark spiritual conversations, this episode is packed with wisdom for anyone who wants to integrate faith and work. Discover why striving often produces little fruit, but surrendering to God’s leading opens doors and hearts. 

What if church wasn’t a place—but everyday obedience to Jesus lived out by ordinary people? In this episode, we interview Lucas Pulley, the executive director of the Underground Network. we explore the Underground movement, a global network of 100+ microchurches—worshiping communities sent to obey God’s calling, multiply disciples, and pursue justice among the poor and oppressed. We challenge the idea that speed and impact come from gathering bigger crowds, and instead show how lasting multiplication happens when every believer faithfully obeys their calling over time and the whole network bears fruit together. We also discuss how a simple, minimum definition of church empowers ordinary people to take bold risks for Jesus, how justice and antiracism are woven into the DNA of microchurch life, and how networked microchurches help one another persevere through shared leadership, encouragement, and mutual support—along with practical best practices for getting started.

On this end of year podcast episode, Cynthia talks with veteran DMM/CPM trainer Bill Smith about the role and importance of goal setting and dreaming big with God as you start a new year.  They'll talk about some of the how to do this but a lot more about the why it is so vital in our journey as those who are pursuing Kingdom multiplication. For the Deeper Dive Interview, be sure to subscribe and become a Dare to Multiply member at: https://multipliersmindset.com/dtmmembership

Christmas is a wonderful time to share the good news!  There are many opportunities in this season that you don't have in other times.  Are you taking advantage of those?  In this episode Cynthia shares her experiences and what it's been like to do the Christmas Challenge, sharing the gospel or starting a spiritual conversation with one person each day in the midst of daily life, a move and more! You'll be inspired, equipped and encouraged by this episode.

Description: In this episode, we sit down with a Dr. Craig Ott, a professor at Trinity International University, to explore whether the Book of Acts reveals patterns of movements—or if that’s reading too much into the text. Together, we unpack powerful themes of growth, opposition, and multiplication that echo from Genesis through Acts and into today’s disciple-making movements (DMMs) and church-planting movements (CPMs). Whether you're a church leader, missionary, or simply curious about biblical movements, this episode offers rich insights into how Acts continues to shape our understanding of gospel expansion today.

In the third and final episode in this series on the Holy Spirit, Cynthia and Jenn talk through common questions about how to cast out demons, discern when you are facing spiritual warfare, and other questions people often ask about the Holy Spirit. 

In this episode, we dive into how to hear and receive from the Holy Spirit, and practical ways to apply that into multiplication ministry. We share personal examples as well as a number of stories from field workers of how they listened and discerned the Holy Spirit's leading. We also talk about the intimate and personal aspect of God's desire to communicate with us. The Holy Spirit desires to speak to us. Are we ready to listen?

In this episode, Cynthia and Jenn dive into how to access the Holy Spirit’s gifts as you make disciples. They unpack 1 Corinthians 12, exploring the incredible variety of spiritual gifts—from wisdom and healing to prophecy and tongues—and how they’re distributed by God for the good of the body. They talk about practical ways to discover and grow in your gifts, including listening prayer, worship, and even taking steps of faith to experiment. You’ll hear personal stories, insights on spiritual gift tests, and encouragement for those who feel their gifts aren’t the “big ones.” Whether you’re new to disciple-making or ready to go deeper, this conversation will inspire you to ask, seek, and step out in faith. The Holy Spirit has gifts for you—are you ready to use them for His Kingdom?

In this episode, Cynthia sits down with Kevin Greeson, author of Sowing With Intent, to explore the Parable of the Sower—arguably Jesus’ most foundational teaching on spiritual multiplication. Drawing from decades of church planting experience across South Asia, Kevin shares transformative insights into this often misunderstood parable, revealing its deep relevance for anyone seeking to expand the Kingdom of God. Whether you're a ministry leader or simply curious about the power of intentional discipleship, this conversation will challenge and inspire.

In this thought-provoking episode, Cynthia Anderson and Tim Walker dive deep into the Parable of the Sower, uncovering its strategic relevance for today’s Church. Tim, author of Sowing With Intent, challenges listeners to rethink how we measure success in ministry—moving beyond organizational growth to personal, relational multiplication. Together, they explore: How to identify gospel gaps and reach the least engaged. Why rapid addition isn’t enough—and how to pursue rapid multiplication. The critical role of ordinary believers in fulfilling the Great Commission. The power of oikos—your natural relational network—in building authentic community. How Western independence and post-Covid isolation have created a unique opportunity for the Church to offer connection and unity. Practical ways to find Persons of Peace and build bridges into new relational spaces. A fresh framework for engaging the lost: See it, Seize it, Shape it.

In this powerful episode, Jenn and Cynthia sit down with a couple who have helped spark one of the largest movements to Christ in the world today—over one million groups and churches in just 13 years.  From early struggles and fruitless efforts to explosive, organic growth in difficult gospel soil, they share: How they multiplied disciples rapidly What shifted their approach Key principles for movement-minded ministry If you’re passionate about disciple-making, church planting, or seeing transformation in hard places, this episode will inspire and equip you. Subscribe for more stories and strategies to multiply disciples and movements globally. Interested to hear more from this couple?  Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Episodes and Additional Powerful content today. Grab a copy of Steve and Robin's Book: Dear Mom and Dad: - An Adventure in Obedience https://amzn.to/42kzXcZ

Is your team struggling to stay focused, experiencing conflict, or feeling adrift? In this episode, Cynthia sits down with Jenn Chang to unpack how to lead disciple-making teams that stay aligned, fruitful, and focused on multiplication. ✅ You’ll learn: Proven strategies for leading effective, healthy teams How to overcome common challenges in disciple-making environments What it takes to build a culture of multiplication PLUS—Cynthia shares an exciting announcement about the future of the podcast and Jenn’s new role in it! 🔔 Be sure to subscribe and check out our exclusive membership levels for deeper training, community, and resources for those serious about pursuing multiplication. Links:  Jenn and Steven's Blog on Strategy formation: https://missionsleaders.com/whats-the-point-of-strategy-part-1-2/

Rapidly growing movements attract donors who want to invest. What are the effects of that giving? Who do majority world movement leaders and practitioners experience the gifts coming from outside? Today on the podcast we talk with Brett Butler about these important "elephant in the room" topics any cross cultural worker or team grapples with.

What do you do when the God-sized dream you’re pursuing feels far off—or even impossible? In this episode, Cynthia shares the heart behind the vision to see 50 new movements to Christ and the journey of holding onto that dream through seasons of doubt, slow progress, and spiritual stretching. You’ll hear personal stories, biblical encouragement, and practical wisdom for staying faithful to the vision God has given you—without carrying the weight of performance or fear of failure. If you’ve ever felt like giving up on a big Kingdom goal, this episode will inspire you to recommit and keep moving forward with steady steps and bold faith.

In this episode, Cynthia sits down with Jeannie Marie—author, speaker, and cross-cultural disciple-maker—to explore how to overcome fear and build meaningful bridges when sharing the gospel with people from vastly different backgrounds. Whether you're reaching out to a Hindu, Muslim, or someone you wouldn’t naturally connect with, Jeannie offers practical tools and mindset shifts to help you disciple with confidence and compassion. 🎧 Tune in to learn: - How to move past fear and discomfort - Simple ways to start cross-cultural conversations - Tips for building trust and spiritual connection 🔗 Helpful Resources 📘 Across the Street and Around the World by Jeannie Marie: Buy on Amazon 🎓 Jeannie Marie Academy: jeannie-marie.com 💡 Dare to Multiply Membership Tiers: multipliersmindset.com/dtmmembership

In rapidly growing disciple-making movements, where there’s no formal hierarchy or denominational structure, how do leadership and accountability actually work? In this insightful episode, Cynthia unpacks the principles and practices that keep these movements healthy, sustainable, and spiritually grounded—even without traditional leadership models. 🎧 Tune in to discover: - How leadership naturally emerges in disciple-making movements - What accountability looks like without formal oversight - Why decentralized structures can still foster deep spiritual growth

In this episode, Cynthia interviews John Glasser from Collision—a ministry dedicated to equipping middle and high school students to make and multiply disciples. John shares his journey from organizing fun youth events to embracing a disciple-making model, sparked by a transformative trip to Ukraine and challenging conversations that shifted his perspective. Discover how Collision trains youth groups, churches, parents, and leaders to raise up students who live on mission. 🔗 Learn more at www.collision.org

In this episode of Dare to Multiply, Cynthia shares powerful reflections from her recent retreats and spiritual insights God revealed during her time away. She also announces exciting changes coming to the podcast— new formats, fresh content, and a renewed focus on equipping disciple-makers for the season ahead. Don’t miss this heartfelt and visionary update!

I wanted to take a moment to thank you for being such an amazing part of the Dare to Multiply podcast journey. During the month of August, I’ll be taking a short break to recharge, reflect, and come back with even better and more relevant content.  Don’t worry — I’ll be back in September with some exciting new ideas for the fall that I'm working on and praying about! In the meantime, feel free to revisit your favorite episodes, share them with friends, and stay connected with me on the Dare to Multiply Instagram or Facebook pages.    If you have particular questions or issues you want me to address in the next season, please feel free to send those in to me and we'll get them in the list of topics we are planning for. Thank you for your continued support — I truly appreciate each and every one of you. See you soon!

We often hear stories of movements starting in Africa or Asia—but what about Europe? 🇪🇺 In this episode, Cynthia Anderson sits down with Piet Van Welsem of the Red Chair Movement to explore what it looks like to catalyze disciple-making movements in places like Holland. With a rich history of partnering with the Holy Spirit to spark movements in the former Soviet Union, among Iranian refugees, and beyond, Piet shares powerful insights into what it takes to make disciples and see them multiply—even in spiritually resistant regions. 🔑 Topics include: Unique challenges of catalyzing movements in Europe Lessons from cross-cultural ministry How the Red Chair Movement is making an impact 👉 Subscribe for more conversations on disciple-making and global missions. Find out more about Piet's ministry from his website, https://redchairmovement.com/  or by emailing him at [email protected] Piet's Book - Ekklesia: The Church Comes Home is available on Amazon.com

In Part 2 of our series on movement growth, we explore the real dangers that can come with rapid multiplication in Disciple-Making Movements (DMMs). While we long to see millions reached with the Gospel, we must also ensure that growth is healthy, sustainable, and rooted in strong discipleship.

Movements may feel like a modern phenomenon, but their roots trace all the way back to the New Testament. In this episode, Cynthia sits down with Dr. Wes Watkins—scholar, academic, and leader in the Motus Dei Network—to explore how God is working through disciple-making movements today. Together, they dive into a thoughtful and honest theological and academic examination of these movements, asking the tough questions and seeking clarity for the future of missions and the church. Find out more at https://MotusDei.Network

This week we explore what effects rapid growth has on a movement and what benefits may exist. Next Week: We’ll explore the real dangers of rapid growth and how to prepare for them before they arrive.

Are Disciple Making Movements happening in America today? Can they happen? 🤔 In this episode, Cynthia interviews Rodger Shull, a dedicated researcher and practitioner who has explored this question for years while working to multiply disciples, groups, and churches in the USA. Gain valuable keys, insights, and encouragement from their fascinating conversation. ✨ Highlights: Current state of Disciple Making Movements in America Practical insights from Rodger Schull Encouragement for aspiring disciple-makers Don't miss this enlightening discussion!

Many people dread reporting—especially when it feels like just crunching numbers. In disciple-making, this resistance can grow when numbers feel inaccurate or impersonal. In today’s episode, Cynthia shares why tracking and reporting aren’t about stats—they’re about people. Discover how intentional reporting can fuel healthy, growing movements and help you stay focused on what truly matters.

Explore a modern example of a movement's journey from persecution to growth, driven by prayer, fasting, and intercession. Learn how this couple embraced failing forward, used Discovery Bible Study (DBS) and Training for Trainers (T4T), and prioritized loving accountability and praying boldly for the sick. With a strong WHY and no plan B, they declared, "Give me a DMM or I die," constantly learning and collaborating with like-minded groups. Gain insights on how to casting vision, train, and build a coalition of the willing, and the importance of perseverance and good coaching. To contact Jerry and Stacy go to: lovefortheleast.org

Jesus introduced the MAWL principle. What does MAWL stand for, and why is it crucial? 🤔 In this episode, Cynthia explains the Model, Assist, Watch, and Leave approach to disciple-making and its significance in transitioning from addition to multiplication. Discover the challenges we face in implementing all four steps and learn practical strategies to overcome them.

In this episode, Cynthia shares her personal journey with coaching and the significant impact it has had in transitioning from addition to multiplication of disciples. Discover valuable tips on how to find the right coach or mentor to guide you on your disciple-making journey.

Join Cynthia as she interviews Dave Coles, co-author of Living Fire, a book that chronicles Aychi B.R.'s inspiring mission to share the love of Jesus in some of the world's most challenging environments. Discover Aychi's unwavering call, strategic approach, and the remarkable ways God is using him to multiply disciples. This episode offers profound insights into the heart and dedication of movement leaders like Aychi, who are willing to go anywhere but hell to make a difference.

In today's podcast, Cynthia opens up about her personal journey, sharing both the beautiful and painful moments that have shaped her. She reflects on why we must persevere in making and multiplying disciples, especially among those who have yet to hear the message. ✨ Highlights: - Personal ups and downs - Moments of beauty and pain - The importance of disciple-making 🚀 Exciting News: Cynthia announces the release of her BRAND NEW course, The Multiplier's Mindset Course! Dive into the mindset shifts and biblical tools that can transform your disciple-making journey. 🔗 Enroll now: https://multipliersmindset.com Join us for an inspiring episode and take the next step in your disciple-making journey!

Ever had someone express interest in Jesus only to later drop off the radar? Or a group that started strong but eventually fell apart? Feeling discouraged about starting again? You're not alone. These challenges are part of the disciple-making journey. But remember, starting over is not a failure—it can be a huge win! In today's podcast, Cynthia shares valuable insights on what to do when you have to start from scratch in your disciple-making efforts. Tune in for encouragement and practical advice.

In this episode, Cynthia sits down with Sara Dangerfield to discuss the concept of "spiritual hoarding"—the tendency to keep the benefits of salvation to oneself. Sara and her husband have made it their mission to transform their church culture, encouraging members to share the Gospel more openly. Tune in to hear about their journey, the challenges they faced, and the impactful changes they've achieved. Episode 109

Train, train, train! Get everyone willing to listen and learn how to make disciples and start disciplemaking groups. But what you do after training is crucial. In this episode, Cynthia emphasizes the importance of not only training as many people as possible but also following up and filtering for those who are actively implementing. Jesus called them obedient disciples.  These are the individuals you will invest in further. Episode 108