PODCAST · education
The Learning Culture Podcast
by Andrew Barry
Join your host Andrew Barry, the Founder and CEO of Curious Lion, as he interviews learning leaders practicing the cultivation of Learning Culture; experts who tease out critical theoretical components of this idea; and shares learning nuggets from real-world experiences, and our own research and writing.By following along, you’ll learn:• How a shared vision sets the tone for a Learning Culture. • How shared assumptions determine our current reality. • How shared stories foster commitment to a Learning Culture. • How shared experiences, or Cohort Learning Experiences to be specific, instill the practice of a Learning Culture.Stay curious, my friends.
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Good to Great ICs with Scott Sylvia
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Scott Sylvia talks about the freedom that came with realizing he didn't have to know everything to be valued, why he sees careers as marathons of relationships rather than races to the next title, and how he helps high-potential ICs make the jump from tactical execution to strategic thinking.If you're an IC looking to grow, or a leader responsible for developing them, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Whitney Barlow
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Whitney Barlow traces the shift that changed everything for her, from believing flawless execution would speak for itself to realizing visibility, alignment, and stakeholder influence matter just as much. She shares what two different managers told her about why they hired her, the advice she'd give her younger self about not waiting for permission to think bigger, and how she helps high-potential ICs connect their work to revenue and outcomes.If you're an IC looking to grow, or a leader responsible for developing them, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Frank Congiu
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Frank reframes what it means to be an individual contributor entirely. He walks through the deal that taught him to get the CEO and every senior leader in the building working for him, the LinkedIn post he was talked into writing that changed his career trajectory, and why he believes everyone has a to-do list but almost nobody has a people plan.If you're an IC looking to grow, or a leader responsible for developing them, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Kia Beckford
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Kia Beckford shares what prioritization looked like coming out of an academic environment that just kept piling more on, why the role she didn't want turned out to be the one that shaped her most, and how supporting the people behind you on the ladder gets noticed in ways most ICs underestimate.If you're wondering what separates the ICs who plateau from the ones who keep climbing, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Aimee Lantzy
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Aimee Lantzy recalls the day a COO asked for her opinion and how it shifted her from doing the work to designing it. She talks about the advice her entrepreneur father gave her about working inside someone else's dream, what it means to choose a company rather than fall into one, and why the most productive ICs sometimes need help simply looking up from their desks.If you're an IC looking to grow, or a leader responsible for developing them, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Liz Brumels
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Liz Brumels makes the case for asking the questions you're a little afraid to ask, even when the answer might be no. She walks through how a rejection became a nine-month development plan, why no one is going to build your career for you, and how stepping outside your own team is one of the fastest ways to create advocates across an organization.If you're wondering what separates the ICs who plateau from the ones who keep climbing, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Dax Rich
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Dax Rich opens up about the moment he realized a paycheck alone wasn't enough, and how aligning with company values changed the work he chose and how he showed up inside it. He talks about the cost of waiting for someone else to take the wheel, and why self-talk is the first thing he works on with high-potential ICs.If you're ready to stop waiting for someone else to advocate for your career, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Meganne Brezina
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with talent leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it.In this episode, Meganne Brezina shares the presentation day that reshaped how she thinks about preparation, why she believes knowing when to leave an organization is one of the most underrated skills in a career, and how self-advocacy separates the ICs who get noticed from those who quietly do great work. If you're building your career as an individual contributor or shaping the ones around you, this episode is for you.
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Good to Great ICs with Amy Hull
What does it really take to grow from a good individual contributor to a great one? In this special edition of The Learning Culture Podcast, Andrew Barry sits down with leaders for short, sharp conversations about the mindset shifts, hard-won lessons, and small moves that separate ICs who plateau from those who keep climbing. ICs matter more than ever as AI reshapes how work gets done, and these episodes are built for anyone navigating that path or helping others walk it. In this conversation, Amy reflects on what gave her the confidence to trust her own ideas early in her career, the role preparation and relationships played in helping her work carry weight, and why she believes ICs often miss the bigger picture of the business they're inside of. If you're an IC looking to grow, or a leader responsible for developing them, this episode is for you.
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#123 - Measuring What Matters: Eric Grant's Blueprint for Learning Analytics That Actually Work
Most learning programs fail at measurement because they're asking the wrong questions with the wrong tools. Eric Grant, who leads learning and content at Figma, has cracked the code on learning analytics that actually matter. With an MS in data science and experience at LinkedIn, Coinbase, Uber, and The Trade Desk, Eric brings statistical rigor to a field that typically runs on intuition. In this episode, he shares his proven blueprint for measuring learning impact. He explains why the question "Did this make you better at your job?" beats satisfaction scores every time, how to set up control groups when AB testing isn't possible, and when to invest in rigorous measurement versus when to trust the vibe. From survey design that actually drives insights to avoiding the credibility-killing mistake of claiming every program worked, Eric provides the practical analytics toolkit that L&D professionals need to prove their impact. If you've been struggling to move beyond course completions and smile sheets, this blueprint shows you exactly how to measure what actually matters.
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#122 - The IC Development Playbook: Insights from Faire, Lucid, and LinkedIn
When employees equate growth with promotion, but promotion opportunities are limited, how do you develop your best individual contributors? In this panel discussion, Katie Hart from Faire, Sarah Jester from Lucid Software, and Krysta Kasinski from LinkedIn share their battle-tested approaches to developing ICs beyond the traditional promotion path. These three L&D leaders reveal why they've moved beyond the "growth equals promotion" myth to build leadership programs specifically for individual contributors. You'll discover the five core capabilities that accelerate IC growth, why cohort-based learning beats one-off training, and how to measure impact without killing engagement. Katie, Sarah, and Krysta share what's actually working in their programs, including the mistakes they've made and learned from. Whether you're at a 1,000-person company like Faire and Lucid or a LinkedIn-scale organization, this conversation provides practical frameworks for developing your IC population when traditional career ladders aren't enough. If retaining top talent and building leadership at every level matters to your organization, this playbook shows you exactly where to start.
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#121 - From Seller to Coach: Gail Behun’s Playbook for Building Better Managers
Most companies take their best sellers and promote them into management, expecting them to magically know how to coach a team. It rarely works that way. Gail Behun, who leads frontline manager enablement at Zoom across 300 managers globally, learned that lesson firsthand when she made the leap from seller to manager and realized she had no template for what good looked like. In this conversation, Gail breaks down how she builds manager capability without overwhelming people who are already stretched thin, why the best enablement comes from managers themselves rather than top-down programs, and how she uses AI, including a custom "Gail Voice" bot, to scale her impact and communicate in a way that actually lands with CROs. If you've ever wondered how to make enablement stick beyond the training session, this one's for you.
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#120 - Ian Stevens on Building an AI-Ready Culture
When your people complete the mandated AI training but nothing changes, you don't have a tool problem; you have a culture problem. As Director of L&D at Publicis Sapient, Ian Stevens watched mandates and endless emails fail to drive the engagement, adoption, or completions they needed. The breakthrough came when they stopped teaching tools and started building mindsets. Ian reveals their secret weapon, the AI Caravan: 60-minute demos fueled by beer and pizza that brought record numbers into the office voluntarily. He explains why people need to evolve from writers to editors, why adaptability and judgment matter more than technical skills, and how widening the guardrails unlocked momentum. Most importantly, Ian shows how transformation happens with people, not to them. If you're tired of the "hurry up and wait" approach to AI adoption, this episode reveals how to build a culture where experimentation beats prescription every time.
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#119 - Cameron Hedrick on How AI Unlocks What Makes Us Human
What happens when the context you're preparing leaders for no longer exists by the time they get there? After seven years as Chief Learning Officer at Citibank building talent systems, Cameron Hedrick sees the cracks in how we predict potential.In this conversation, Cameron reveals why mastery beats potential when everything is constantly emerging, why humans excel at inference with small data while AI needs millions of data points, and how self-knowing becomes the foundation for navigating what's next. He introduces his Prompt to Polymath framework, mapping our journey from basic augmentation to a world where your digital twin pre-flights conversations while you orchestrate outcomes across humans, agents, and proxies. From hiring people with scars to narrating learning in motion, Cameron shares why machines may calculate faster, but they don't rise stronger from failure and why that distinction matters more than ever. If you're still running quarterly talent reviews in static nine-boxes, this conversation will fundamentally challenge how you think about developing capability that endures.HIGH POTENTIAL (for what?!)New MIT Sloan research suggests that AI is more likely to complement, not replace, human workers | MIT Sloan
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#118 - Why ICs Needs to Think Like Managers in the AI Era
What happens when AI agents become your direct reports? Becky Karsh, VP of Talent and Growth at F5, believes we're approaching a fundamental shift: individual contributors won't just complete tasks, they'll manage multiple AI agents to achieve outcomes. In this episode, Becky reveals why delegation, work design, and crystal-clear communication are becoming essential IC skills, not nice-to-have manager competencies. She explains why "if you do something more than once, that should be an agent" and makes the case that the future belongs to ICs who think like architects, not just builders. From T-shaped careers to bringing your own OKRs to development programs, Becky maps out the new playbook for IC success. If you're wondering whether AI will replace your job, Becky has a different question: are you ready to manage the AI that will amplify your impact?
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#117 - From Resistance to 6,000 Training Sessions: Rebecca Scales' Blueprint for AI Adoption
Is your team resisting AI adoption? Are they struggling to see how AI could actually help their work? Rebecca Scales discovered the real barrier isn't reluctance to learn - it's self-efficacy, people's belief that they can actually use these tools effectively. As Director of Capability Development at Procore Technologies, she watched initial AI training fail because pressing "enroll" meant admitting you don't know something, a psychological barrier especially high for engineers. But Rebecca cracked the code with an unconventional approach that turned resistance into remarkable engagement: 6,000 training sessions in just four months. In this episode, Rebecca reveals her data-driven methodology, the psychological gateway that made formal training feel less threatening, and why one engineer went from saying "no" to becoming her biggest champion.If you're leading an AI initiative and wondering why adoption is slower than expected, this episode will show you what you're missing.
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#116 - Emotional Intelligence Is Your Antidote to Workplace Burnout
Have you ever sat at your desk, physically present but mentally checked out, your stomach in knots, calling in "sick" when you're really just depleted, feeling like you're giving 110% while running on empty? Ryan Giordano knows that feeling intimately, and his journey from the breaking point of burnout to teaching emotional intelligence at Fleetio reveals a radical truth: we massively underestimate how much control we have over our own experience. Ryan shares why 50% of what happens to us is actually happening inside our heads, introduces the "window metaphor" that transforms how you see reality, and explains why reframing isn't just positive thinking - it's a practical tool that could save your career.Ryan shows how emotional intelligence becomes the antidote when you're always "on" but never okay. If work feels like it's happening TO you rather than WITH you, this conversation is for you.
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#115 - Leading Through Hyper-Change: Lessons from Global HR Leader Allyson Carr
What happens when your company faces multiple massive changes all at once? Allyson Carr knows exactly what that feels like. As Global HR Chief at Cyber Reason, navigating six months of hyper-change, she reveals why people understand change but struggle with the transition, and why there's a physical toll to transformation that most leaders completely miss. Allyson shares her battle-tested approach: why she hires for human skills over technical expertise at the executive level and why trying to make employees love "the company" is a losing game. In this episode, Allyson shares how to build trust when everything else is in flux. If you're leading through chaos and wondering why your team seems exhausted even when they understand the strategy, this conversation is for you.
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#114 - Consistency Over Perfection: Building Your Brand on LinkedIn with Rachel Bolton
What if your next dream job came from a LinkedIn DM instead of a job application? Rachel Bolton landed her role as Director of Global Enterprise Leadership Development at Stanley Black & Decker when a leader reached out after discovering her through her consistent LinkedIn presence. In this episode, Rachel explores the intersection of authentic personal branding and professional growth, revealing how she maintains a vibrant online presence while juggling a demanding L&D role and raising two young children. She shares her philosophy on converting passive profile views into meaningful connections, the importance of bringing your whole self to both digital content and facilitation, and why perfectionism is the enemy of progress when building your professional brand. Tune in to discover how consistency, authenticity, and strategic visibility can transform not just your LinkedIn presence but your entire career trajectory.
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#113 - Inside Duolingo: How Sticky Learning Fuels a Global Habit
What if the best career move you ever make is the one you didn’t plan for?In this episode, we follow the unexpected journey of Bozena Pajak, who found her way to Duolingo, not through a clear-cut plan, but by following her curiosity. You’ll hear how an interdisciplinary background became her superpower, shaping how millions of people learn languages today. But this story goes beyond career twists; it’s about how we learn, why we stay engaged, and what actually makes learning stick.From the science of implicit learning to the art of balancing structure with exploration, this conversation unpacks the hidden forces behind Duolingo’s success. You’ll hear what it really takes to build something effective and addictive and how AI might just personalize learning in ways we’re only beginning to imagine.Whether you’re a designer, educator, team leader, or lifelong learner, this episode will leave you thinking differently about motivation, collaboration, and the future of learning itself.Tune in for a story that proves passion, feedback, and a little serendipity can take you further than any plan ever could.
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#112 - How to Fix Your Broken Training with Motivation, Structure, and Story
What does a Hollywood screenwriter know about learning design? Turns out, quite a lot. In this episode, Andrew Barry sits down with Lindsey Caplan, founder of The Gathering Effect, whose background in organizational psychology and TV writing gives her a unique lens on how to craft transformative learning experiences. Lindsey unpacks her go-to framework centered on motivation, structure, and storytelling, reveals the biggest mistakes L&D teams make, and introduces her two-by-two matrix for creating content that’s not just informative, but engaging and scalable. This is a masterclass for anyone serious about designing learning that actually moves people.Listen now to transform the way you think about training.
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#111 - The Human Skills Renaissance: Why AI Makes Emotional Intelligence More Valuable
What if the rise of AI isn’t making us less human - but demanding that we become more human?As AI accelerates productivity and automates expertise, a surprising truth is emerging: the most irreplaceable professionals aren't competing with machines; they're doubling down on what makes them human.Recorded live at the ATD International Conference & Expo in Washington, D.C., and playfully dubbed the podcast in the park, this special episode brings together powerful voices across L&D and leadership to explore why human skills are quickly becoming our most valuable asset.In a world where anyone can generate ideas and build solutions in minutes, your real advantage isn’t speed, it’s emotional intelligence. This episode is a front-row seat to a growing movement: one where influence, empathy, trust, and curiosity aren’t just soft skills, they’re power skills. If you’re navigating the intersection of AI and human connection, this conversation is your guide. Tune in to join the human skills renaissance.
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#110 - One-Size-Fits-All Development Is Killing Motivation: Elena Agaragimova on Why Generic Training Fails (and What to Do Instead)
What if your company’s biggest performance problem isn’t skill but disconnection?In this episode, we follow Elena Agaragimova’s journey from global leadership coach to founder of ShiftWell.ai, a tool born out of deep frustration with the corporate training status quo. After years of running workshops across continents, Elena began asking a simple but radical question: What if the reason people aren’t engaged isn’t because they’re unmotivated, but because no one’s ever asked what they really need?You’ll hear why middle managers are burning out, why most leadership training comes too late, and why companies keep throwing money at wellness perks that don’t work. Elena doesn’t just challenge the system—she’s building a smarter one.This conversation is about more than performance. It’s about rethinking motivation, growth, and what people actually need to thrive on their terms. From personalized coaching to system-level culture change, Elena shares how to stop the burnout cycle and build something that lasts.If you’re a manager, HR leader, or just someone tired of the same old solutions, this episode will change how you think about development.
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#109 - AI and Influence: From Idea to Impact
In this special episode, Andrew Barry takes us to Workhuman Live in Denver, where he engaged with six forward-thinking leaders across HR, consulting, and academia. Together, they explore how AI is transforming not just the way we create, but also how we influence action.From first-draft generation and rapid prototyping to stress-testing ideas and influencing without authority, these leaders reveal how AI is collapsing the time from idea to execution. Yet, the real game-changer isn't speed - it's empathy, clarity, and the ability to make others care.Featuring insights from voices like Tracy Graff, KeyAnna Schmiedl, Fatema Rizwana, Jacob Morgan, Nicole Eisdorfer, and Candice Mitchell, this episode delivers a powerful message: AI may accelerate our work, but human judgment, storytelling, and influence are still what drive change.
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#108 - From Silos to Synergy: How Two Teams at LinkedIn Reinvented Collaboration
Leah Caseley and Mark Turner never set out to rewrite the rules of leadership development - but that’s exactly what happened when they noticed a dangerous pattern. At LinkedIn, they saw top performers getting promoted into management only to regret it, brilliant individual contributors struggling to lead, and organizations losing talent to poor fits. So they flipped the script. Now, their emerging leaders don’t just train for management - they test it firsthand by guiding new hires, discovering through experience whether leadership truly suits them before the promotion becomes permanent. Along the way, they’ve uncovered the surprising human skills that matter more than results, the delicate balance between AI and authentic connection, and why the best leaders aren’t born - they’re revealed through real challenges. This isn’t leadership theory. It’s a working blueprint for building managers who don’t just direct teams - who amplify them.
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#107 - AI & Human Potential: Navigating the Future of Work
What if the biggest threat to your career isn't AI taking your job, but you preparing for the wrong future? In this special episode, Andrew Barry dives into conversations with eight visionary people leaders who are witnessing the AI revolution unfold in real-time. Recorded live at the Transform Conference in Las Vegas, these aren't your typical "AI will change everything" predictions. These are raw, honest discussions from leaders making tough decisions right now about which skills to invest in and how to lead teams through unprecedented uncertainty. Here's the uncomfortable truth they're grappling with: Yes, AI will replace jobs. But while everyone's focused on the technology, these leaders discovered something unexpected about which organizations will actually survive – and it's not what you think. From Vidyard's VP of People talking about the "scary excitement" of this moment, to EPAM's Chief Learning Scientist challenging companies to imagine their "AI-native" competitors, one startling consensus emerges: We're not just adapting to change – we're racing against organizations that don't exist yet Ready to discover what skills will actually matter when AI can do almost everything else? This episode will change how you see the future of work – and your place in it.
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#106 - No More Armor: Matt Conrad on Vulnerability, Trust, and Leading with Heart
Today, we’re joined by Matt Conrad, a sales leader and storyteller who isn’t afraid to take off the armor. In this powerful conversation, Matt opens up about the career setbacks, challenges, and moments of clarity that shaped his leadership journey.In this episode, Matt shares how vulnerability became his superpower and why leading with heart can transform not only teams, but entire cultures. We talk about the importance of curiosity, investing in personal growth, and creating space for others to show up authentically. Whether you’re in sales, leadership, or simply trying to lead a little more bravely in your own life, Matt’s story will remind you that trust starts with being real, and growth starts with letting go of perfection.
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#105 - The Human Edge: Tami Rosen on AI, Culture, and the Power of Adaptability
Today, we’re joined by Tami Rosen, a trailblazer in talent and transformation, who brings a sharp perspective on how AI is reshaping the workplace and what that means for leaders, teams, and culture.In this episode, Tami dives into the human edge: the adaptability, learning agility, and values-driven mindset that will define successful organizations in an AI-powered world. She explores how companies can foster a culture that embraces experimentation, clarity, and continuous learning and why that’s essential as traditional roles evolve into more flexible, skills-based models.We also talk about the importance of communication during change, the shifting definition of expertise, and how individuals can use moments of uncertainty as a launchpad for growth.Whether you're thinking about the future of work, leading transformation, or simply trying to stay grounded amid rapid change, Tami’s insights offer a clear, human-centered path forward.
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#104 - Redefining Ready: Liz Moran on Talent, Risk, and the Future of Leadership
Today, we’re joined by Liz Moran, a forward-thinking talent and learning leader with deep experience in building cultures that help people grow, especially in times of change. In this episode, Liz explores how leaders can create space for experimentation, build trust through transparency, and rethink what it means to be “ready” in today’s world of work. We talk about navigating risk and readiness, the mindset shift needed to work alongside AI, and why curiosity and sound judgment are essential leadership tools.Liz also reflects on the personal side of growth, the discomfort that often comes with it, the role of optimism, and the surprising parallels between parenting and leadership.If you’re leading through uncertainty, investing in your people, or simply looking to build a more resilient learning culture, Liz’s perspective will leave you thinking differently about what it really means to lead.
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#103 - Metaphorical Learning: Robyn Ginese on Feedback, Belonging, & Growing through Experiences
Today, we’re joined by Robyn Ginese, a leadership development expert who’s spent nearly two decades helping people not just show up, but level up. From her early career in higher education to scaling impactful programs in the corporate world, Robyn brings a fresh, people-first perspective on what it really takes to lead.In this episode, Robyn unpacks how metaphor-based, experiential learning programs can unlock confidence, shift mindsets, and create lasting impact. She explores the transition from campus to corporate, the power of feedback as a form of belonging, and why accountability is key to building trust and performance.We’ll dive into how leaders can see and unleash potential in others, the ripple effect of great leadership, and what it means to lead in a world where AI handles the tasks, but humans drive the transformation.If you care about building strong teams, scaling learning with meaning, or showing up as the kind of leader who empowers others to grow, Robyn’s insights will leave you inspired and ready to take action.
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#102 - From Trombone to Team Building: Stephen Ivany’s Journey from Stage to Strategy
Today, we’re joined by Stephen Ivany, a former professional trombonist turned leadership development expert at Marriott, who brings a unique lens to the evolving world of leadership.In this episode, Stephen shares how his background in music shapes his approach to leadership. He explores the parallels between mastering an instrument and mastering human connection, emphasizing curiosity, mentorship, and the importance of balancing structure with spontaneity.We dive into his belief that emotional presence matters more than executive presence, how micro-learning can build lasting leadership habits, and why joy and optimism should be central to any team culture. Stephen also speaks to the power of genuine connection and self-awareness in creating environments where people are inspired to take risks and grow.Whether you're a creative thinker, a people leader, or just someone navigating change, Stephen's perspective offers a fresh take on what it means to lead with heart in a fast-paced, AI-driven world.
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#101 - Managerial Excellence: From Self-Growth to Team Impact with Stefani Okamoto
Welcome to another enlightening episode of The Learning Culture Podcast! Today, we're thrilled to have Stefani Okamoto, a veteran in global learning and development with over 23 years of experience at Microsoft, joining us. Stefani has made waves in transforming corporate cultures, particularly with her work under the "Model Coach Care" framework emphasizing inclusive leadership, empathy, and care.In this episode, Stefani delves into her current role at ServiceNow, where she implements a growth strategy centered around "Grow Self, Grow Team, and Grow Business." She talks about the critical role of managers, the importance of self-awareness, and fostering a collaborative, trust-based environment aligned with company goals.We explore her journey battling imposter syndrome, her advocacy for intellectual humility, and her mantra, "Don't let anybody dull your sparkle." Additionally, we discuss how humor and psychological safety contribute to a positive and creative work culture.Whether you're a leader striving to enhance your team's performance or someone seeking personal growth, Stephani's insights will leave you inspired. Stefani Okamoto LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#100 - Building Creative and Inclusive Cultures: Insights from Ingrid Hu Dahl
Welcome to another enlightening episode of The Learning Culture Podcast! In today's episode, we sit down with the inspirational Ingrid Hu Dahl, a founder, CEO, and expert in leadership and inclusion. Ingrid delves deep into her unique framework for listening, highlighting the importance of empathetic, non-judgmental engagement to foster creativity and growth. Together, we explore the intricate connections between ego, fear, and early judgment, and how these elements can stifle idea development and leadership effectiveness.Ingrid shares her wisdom on behavior change, emphasizing the necessity of adopting a beginner's mindset and the power of play in the learning process. She stresses the importance of storytelling, particularly personal narratives, as a tool for understanding and growth in both personal and professional contexts. From the challenges of writing her forthcoming memoir to navigating her multicultural identity, Ingrid's journey is full of insights for leaders striving to build inclusive and empathetic teams.Tune in as we dive into the world of leadership, identity, and the transformative power of listening and storytelling.Ingrid Hu Dahl LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#99 - Stepping Out of Comfort Zones and Bridging Gaps in Leadership with Jennifer Butler
Welcome to another insightful episode of The Learning Culture Podcast! In today’s episode, we sit down with Jennifer Butler, a passionate advocate for leadership growth and human development. Throughout the conversation, we explore the importance of creating impactful learning environments, whether through dramatic initiatives or practical, everyday experiences. Jennifer emphasizes breaking traditional expertise boundaries, fostering internal networks, and balancing the pursuit of perfection with the embrace of vulnerability.This episode is rich with real-world examples, from innovative approaches to leadership development to overcoming challenges of exclusion and political baggage in professional settings. Jennifer’s unique insights on integrating storytelling with data, celebrating achievements, and crafting personalized development journeys make this a must-listen for anyone passionate about leadership and personal growth.Join us as we uncover the keys to building a learning culture that drives both individual and organizational transformation. Tune in for a conversation that promises to inspire and uplift, providing actionable takeaways to implement in your own leadership journey.Jennifer Butler LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#98 - Human First, Leader Second: Self-Compassion as a Leadership Tool with Massimo Backus
Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of The Learning Culture Podcast! Today we’re diving deep into the transformative power of self-compassion in leadership with our special guest, Massimo Backus. Massimo, a pioneer in advocating for more human-centric leadership, shares insights from his upcoming book, "Human First, Leader Second." Together, we explore the radical shift away from the myth of perfection and control, toward embracing vulnerability and kindness in both personal and professional realms.Join us as we discuss the value of self-compassion, the misconceptions of traditional leadership, and how acknowledging our critical inner voices can lead to profound personal growth. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of how embracing our humanity can lead to stronger, more resilient leadership. So, tune in, get inspired, and discover how self-compassion can revolutionize not only your leadership approach but your entire perspective on life.Massimo Backus LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#97 - Becoming an Expert with Lisa Hammack
In today's episode, we sit down with Lisa Hammack for an insightful conversation that delves deep into the pivotal role of frontline managers and the dynamics of supporting team success. Lisa reflects on her pioneering work at Oracle, where she developed the Global Sales Leader Academy amidst a significant shift from on-premises to cloud-based solutions. The conversation explores leadership forums, town halls, and how involving everyone in strategic decisions fosters a robust learning culture. From innovative sales training and skill development to creating a culture that values growth and transparency, Lisa emphasizes practical strategies to enhance employee engagement and retention.We dive into the challenges and triumphs of building leadership training programs, managing upward expectations, offering genuine career growth, and the importance of continuous learning. Tune in as we unpack these themes, offering valuable lessons for leaders and managers alike.
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#96 - The Intersection of Empathy and Leadership with Tekeisha Zimmerman
Today, we are joined by Tekeisha Zimmerman, who leads Professional Development for the People Team at Expedia. In this episode, Tekeisha shares her journey in a role intentionally created to foster growth among talent development professionals. Tekeisha also reflects on her transformative experience at Amazon, where she honed her skills in a high-pressure, customer-centric environment, learning valuable lessons in resilience, innovation, and leadership. We discuss the importance of stability during times of organizational change, the emotional impact of leadership transitions, and how empathy and communication play crucial roles in navigating these shifts. Additionally, Tekeisha opens up about her personal journey, emphasizing the need for intentionality and empathy in leadership, inspired by her experiences and passions.Don't miss this episode filled with practical insights and inspiring stories that will leave you eager to foster a learning culture within your own organization.
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#95 - Cultivating Self-Efficacy and Authentic Leadership with Courtney Nall
In today's episode, we speak with Courtney Nall, a distinguished leader with profound insights into organizational change, leadership, and learning theory. Together, they explore the transformative power of feedback, the importance of self-efficacy, and the value of genuine collaboration in both professional and personal domains.Additionally, Courtney delves into her passion for ultra marathon running and its surprising parallels to the work environment, highlighting the importance of community and perseverance.Join us as we uncover valuable strategies for fostering personal and professional growth, leveraging feedback for realistic self-assessment, and cultivating a supportive, inclusive, and authentic leadership culture. Whether you're an aspiring leader or a seasoned professional, this episode promises to offer practical insights and inspiration for your own journey.Sit back and enjoy!
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#94 - From Values to Action: Al Dea on Leadership and Organizational Change
Today I have the pleasure of sitting down with the dynamic Al Dea. Al is a seasoned expert in leadership development and the founder of his own consultancy, The Edge of Work. In this episode, we dive deep into Al's journey from attending conferences with his father at a young age to becoming a thought leader in the corporate and consulting world.We explore the essence of leadership, the importance of fostering a collective mindset, and the challenges of aligning individual and organizational values. Al shares his unique insights on creating environments that encourage team-based behaviors, the pitfalls that can stifle effective leadership, and the significance of maintaining a sense of agency within teams.We'll also get personal as Al reflects on pivotal moments that shaped his career, the power of kindness, and the mentors who have influenced his path. Whether you're an aspiring leader or an experienced executive, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways on how to lead with empathy, curiosity, and a commitment to growth.Relax, sit back and enjoy!
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#93 - Workforce Evolution: Adaptive Training and Retention Strategies with Lizzy Kizer
We have the pleasure of diving into a compelling conversation with Lizzy Kizer, an expert in Workforce Development and Change Management. We'll explore the innovative strategies her organization employs, from partnerships with educational institutions to hands-on training programs that cater to a diverse, global audience.Lizzy offers a nuanced look at how cultural and educational shifts are broadening career narratives, emphasizing the significance of trade schools alongside traditional college paths. We'll also delve into her personal learning philosophy, the challenges of delivering timely and relevant training in a fast-paced industry, and the importance of creating strong partnerships with stakeholders.Whether you're intrigued by workforce development, passionate about continuous learning, or just looking to gain deeper insights into effective change management, this episode promises to offer valuable perspectives. Stay tuned for an engaging discussion that underscores the power of patience, persistence, and practical problem-solving in fostering a dynamic and resilient workforce!Lizzy Kizer LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#92 - Exploring AI and Change Leadership with Rebecca Stern
Join us in this episode as we uncover new pathways to illuminate ignorance and lead with purpose in an ever-evolving workplace. Today, we sit down with Rebecca Stern, an enthusiastic leader at Udemy who is breaking new ground in AI-driven learning and talent development. Together, we delve into the ever-constant nature of change, the importance of stepping outside one's comfort zone, and the powerful concept of agency in leadership.Rebecca shares her experiences from her early days in organizational psychology to her current role at Udemy, emphasizing data-driven practices, leadership humility, and continuous learning. Tune in to explore how Rebecca navigates the challenges of embracing change, leveraging AI in innovative ways, and fostering growth through personal and professional reflection. Plus, get insights on how fostering agency and genuine relationships can transform leadership and development programs.Sit back and enjoy!Rebecca Stern LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#91 - Learning Culture and Game Design: Crafting Engaging Training Programs with Michael Boulter
Today we're joined by a special guest, Micheal Boulter. In this enlightening conversation, we delve into the innovative approaches transforming the landscape of training and development in the workplace. We explore the concept of Embedded Trainers, where trainers work hand-in-hand with frontline operators to enhance job performance and provide real-time feedback.Our discussion also ventures into the realm of game-based learning, sharing insights from Micheal's experience with designing educational games that mirror real-world challenges and enhance problem-solving skills. We'll learn about the iterative process behind these games, the necessity of simplicity, and the powerful lessons derived from post-game debriefs.Together, we'll examine the balance between developing leaders and retaining top talent and discuss innovative methods to integrate social and facilitated learning within organizations.Sit back and enjoy!Michael Boulter LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#90 - How the Octopus Killed the Performance Review with Tami Rosen
In this enlightening episode, we sit down with Tami Rosen, an influential figure at Pagaya, where she now thrives in an externally focused role, bridging internal strategies with external stakeholders. Join us as Tami delves into her unique approach to performance standards, networking, and the evolving demands of leadership.We explore the revolutionary shift from traditional performance reviews to a continuous learning cycle that fosters reflection, collaboration, and honest feedback. Tami also shares personal insights into her journey of learning agility, adapting to new roles, and the importance of patience and connection in leadership. Plus, discover how a lesson from "My Octopus Teacher" documentary can transform our understanding of management and growth.Tune in for a conversation packed with valuable lessons on evolving leadership, navigating change, and building impactful relationships.Tami Rosen LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#89 - Leading Through Change: Fostering Resilience in Teams with Anna Tilley
In today's episode, we sit down with Anna Tilley to dive deep into the complexities of navigating change in the corporate environment. Anna shares her insights on the emotional toll that 'doing more with less' takes on employees and the importance of giving them space to process changes. We'll explore the disconnect between senior leadership and employees during transitions, Anna's efforts to launch a "Women in Technology" program, and her vision for evolving the learning and development department into a strategic partner. Anna also emphasizes the importance of resilience over traditional change management and discusses the concept of anti-fragility—a mindset aimed at growing stronger through adversity.This episode is packed with valuable insights for leaders and employees alike, as Andrew and Anna discuss everything from fostering continuous improvement mindsets to addressing leaders' pain points and creating environments that encourage vulnerability and reflection. Tune in to learn how to navigate change with empathy, patience, and a focus on personal growth.Andrew Barry LinkedInAnna Tilley LinkedIn
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#87 - Embracing AI with Curiosity with Julie McGovern
In today's episode, we delve into the fascinating world of learning and innovation with our brilliant guest, Julie McGovern. Julie shares deep insights into the transformation from traditional education methods to the self-driven inquiry essential in today's workplace. We'll explore the power of curiosity, the role of AI in enhancing productivity, and how an open mind can unlock incredible opportunities.Julie reveals her journey through the Digital Learning Institute and her strategic implementation of AI tools to revolutionize the learning process. From the nuanced roles of AI in instructional design to real-world applications like Quantified AI and Sauna Labs, she brings a wealth of knowledge on transforming tedious tasks and enhancing learner experience with adaptive technologies.We'll also dive into Julie's personal philosophy on learning zones, striking the perfect balance between comfort, growth, and stress to maximize development. Along the way, we’ll uncover the importance of refining AI prompts, the iterative nature of working with AI, and the value of collective learning and experience sharing.Stay tuned as we discuss the future of AI in learning, practical strategies for AI integration, and how to maintain the essential human touch in an increasingly automated world.Julie McGovern LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#86 - Rethinking L&D with Laurel Schulert
We are joined by Laurel Schulert, a dynamic leader at SAP Concur with a rich background in education and performance consulting.In this episode, we delve into the crucial role of personal agency in career advancement and the unique skills educators bring to corporate roles.Throughout our conversation, we explore the intricacies of leadership, the significance of providing autonomy and choice in learning, and the importance of humanity in the workplace. Laurel also offers invaluable insights on team dynamics, effective hiring practices, and the strategic role of L&D as a business partner.Tune in for actionable advice on fostering engagement, enhancing productivity, and driving meaningful change within your organization. Don’t miss this compelling discussion that promises to inspire and equip emerging leaders in the Learning and Development space.Laurel Schulert LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#85 - Leadership Through Collaboration with Callan Swaim & Jennifer Brush
We're thrilled to dive deep into the worlds of leadership, empathy, and career transitions with our esteemed guests, Jennifer Brush and Callan Swaim..We'll explore their shared experiences in travel and hospitality, emphasizing the significance of understanding diverse customer needs and creating memorable guest experiences. The episode also touches upon the challenging effects of COVID-19 on organizations, highlighting innovative strategies and cultural awareness crucial for navigating these unprecedented times. With references to influential works such as "The Power of Moments" by the Heath Brothers, and Erin Meyer’s "Culture Map," our discussion promises to inspire and inform.Join us as we uncover the power of human-centered leadership, the importance of showing rather than telling, and the delicate balance of maintaining community and collaboration in professional development.Jennifer Brush LinkedInCallan Swaim LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#84 - Authentic Leadership with Michael Brick
In this episode, we sit down with leadership expert Michael Brick to explore the transformative power of learning within companies and educational settings.Micheal sheds light on the distinction between formal and informal learning, the critical role of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) in fostering authentic leadership, and his experiences teaching leadership studies at the University of Maryland.We'll delve into the profound impact of ERGs on workplace culture, the benefits of cohort-based learning, and the necessity of executive sponsorship in driving effective learning initiatives. Michael also shares valuable insights on the importance of self-awareness, the challenges of discussing identity, and the role of failure in leadership development.Join us for a deep dive into building adaptable, resilient leaders and creating supportive, inclusive environments at work and beyond.Michael Brick LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#83 - Stubborn Optimism: Turning Adversity into Advantage with Kara Skorepa
In today's episode, we dive deep with Kara Skorepa, a national account manager at Bullhorn. Kara's journey is nothing short of inspiring—faced with managing a diverse array of 60 customers post-acquisition, she turned challenging situations into success stories with sheer perseverance and compassion. From dealing with upset clients due to previous overselling to leveraging CRM systems like Bullhorn and Salesforce, Kara's adaptive approach and human touch transformed customer relationships.Join us as Kara shares her strategies for turning negative experiences into positive ones, the value of storytelling in customer management, and the importance of continual learning and self-kindness in the workplace. We'll also explore how she balances meticulous organization with personal touches, and how she has harnessed the unique strengths of her team to achieve remarkable outcomes.Sit back and enjoy.Kara Skorepa LinkedInAndrew Barry LinkedIn
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#82 - The Team Whisperer with Lia Garvin
Today, we have a special guest, the renowned "Team Whisperer" Lia Garvin, who brings her extensive experience from tech giants like Microsoft, Apple, and Google to the table.In this episode, we dive into Lia's groundbreaking three-part ops playbook designed to revolutionize team dynamics and business operations. She shares invaluable insights on the importance of implementing this playbook, ensuring team support versus simply focusing on outputs, and fostering an ownership mindset across organizations.Lia also sheds light on her transition from Google to launching her own business, driven by a mission to support smaller enterprises. Additionally, we'll discuss the critical role of managers as coaches and the power of open-ended questions in driving team success.Tune in for a conversation packed with practical strategies, real-world examples, and a look at the evolving cultures within tech companies as we navigate the challenges and opportunities in creating a thriving, cohesive team environment.Andrew Barry LinkedInLia Garvin LinkedIn
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Join your host Andrew Barry, the Founder and CEO of Curious Lion, as he interviews learning leaders practicing the cultivation of Learning Culture; experts who tease out critical theoretical components of this idea; and shares learning nuggets from real-world experiences, and our own research and writing.By following along, you’ll learn:• How a shared vision sets the tone for a Learning Culture. • How shared assumptions determine our current reality. • How shared stories foster commitment to a Learning Culture. • How shared experiences, or Cohort Learning Experiences to be specific, instill the practice of a Learning Culture.Stay curious, my friends.
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