The Scope Podcast

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into the intriguing world of equestrian judging with their segment “Red Flag, Green Flag, Pink Flag: Judges Edition.” Drawing on recent discussions surrounding pony finals, the duo explores the complexities and controversies of judging standards, the pressures judges face, and the impact of their decisions on competitors.They kick off the episode with a light-hearted banter about vocal warm-ups and AI-driven feedback, setting a playful tone before delving into the serious topic of judging. Karen and Jen discuss the public scrutiny judges often endure, likening it to the pressures faced by officials in high-stakes sports like the NFL or NBA. They share insights from a judge who has experienced this firsthand, revealing the challenges of maintaining professionalism amidst criticism.As they navigate various scenarios, they assess the nuances of judging criteria, including whether judges favor well-known trainers. They tackle the perception of bias, the importance of transparency in scoring, and the need for standardized deductions for errors.Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that not only critiques the judging process but also emphasizes the need for understanding and growth within the equestrian community. Whether you’re a competitor, trainer, or just a fan of the sport, this episode offers valuable insights into the often-misunderstood role of judges in equestrian competitions.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into the charm and community spirit of heritage horse shows, specifically focusing on the beloved Blowing Rock Horse Show. Reflecting on their podcast journey, they discuss the growth in their delivery and editing skills over 70 episodes, while also sharing their candid thoughts on some of their earlier encore episodes.Karen recounts her recent visit to Blowing Rock, a personal favorite, and highlights the unique aspects that set it apart from larger, “big box” shows. The duo explores the intimate feel of heritage shows, emphasizing the sense of community, nostalgia, and tradition that permeates events like Blowing Rock, where friendships are rekindled and shared experiences are cherished.Key topics include:•Community Connection: The hosts discuss how heritage shows foster relationships among riders, trainers, and attendees, creating a welcoming atmosphere that is often missing in larger venues.•Nostalgia & Tradition: They delve into the generational legacy of shows like Blowing Rock, noting how its exclusivity and charm contribute to a unique experience that draws participants back year after year.•Comparative Insights: Karen and Jen contrast the intimate, character-rich environment of heritage shows with the more industrial feel of big box shows, highlighting pros and cons of both.•Logistical Challenges: They candidly address the practical aspects of showing at Blowing Rock, including the rustic conditions and the camaraderie that emerges in navigating them.Join Karen and Jen as they celebrate the rich tapestry of the equestrian world, advocating for the continued support of heritage shows while embracing the evolution of the sport. Whether you’re a seasoned equestrian or new to the scene, this episode offers a heartfelt exploration of community and tradition in horse showing.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker welcome the esteemed Dr. Rhea Merck, a sports psychologist and author, to explore the intricacies of performance anxiety and mental health in the equestrian world. As a veteran of working with student-athletes, Dr. Merck shares her insights on the psychological challenges riders face, especially those stemming from anxiety.Karen and Jen dive deep into topics like the difference between healthy nervous energy and crippling anxiety, and how that affects both riders and their horses. They discuss techniques for grounding oneself, the impact of parental involvement on young athletes’ performance, and the importance of mindfulness practices in managing anxiety. Dr. Merck also introduces listeners to EMDR, a trauma treatment technique, explaining how it can aid athletes recovering from injuries or traumatic experiences.With practical advice and relatable anecdotes, this episode is a must-listen for anyone involved in sports, particularly equestrian disciplines, shedding light on how mental health plays a critical role in athletic performance.Join us for an enlightening conversation that not only addresses common struggles but also empowers athletes to harness their mental strength. Don’t forget to check us out on Patreon for exclusive content and workouts, and tune in next time for more insights on Scope!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn honor of one of our favorite events of the year, we’re trotting out this classic episode!In this lively episode of Scope, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner share their thoughts on the excitement and stress surrounding Pony Finals, particularly for parents and young riders.The duo discusses the pros and cons of the event, offering insights from their own experiences—Jen recounts her time as a spectator and trainer, while Karen reflects on her unique pony-sized perspective. They emphasize the importance of managing expectations, setting realistic performance goals, and the camaraderie among young riders at the event.Listeners will hear hilarious anecdotes, including a late-night camper saga and the emotional rollercoaster of pony swaps post-competition. Jen and Karen also touch on crucial topics like the costs involved, the significance of supportive environments, and the importance of good horsemanship practices.Join Jen and Karen as they navigate the complexities of Pony Finals, highlighting the joy, challenges, and unforgettable moments that define this cherished event in the equestrian calendar. Whether you’re a seasoned equestrian or just curious about the world of ponies, this episode is full of relatable stories, expert tips, and plenty of laughter.Tune in for a fun and informative discussion that celebrates the spirit of Pony Finals! 🐴✨Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this exciting episode of the Scope Podcast, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into the intriguing world of horse investment. With the backdrop of the World Cup sparking a lively discussion about soccer (or is it football?), the duo transitions into a captivating conversation about the realities of investing in horses.They explore the differences between purchasing a horse as a genuine investment and acquiring one for personal use with the hope of reselling it for profit. Karen candidly shares her previous reluctance toward horse investments, while Jen offers insights into the financial risks involved, including ongoing costs like insurance and training.Listeners will learn about various investment strategies, including the potential for quick turnovers and the importance of having a solid plan in place. They also discuss the dynamics of partnerships in horse investment, emphasizing the need for clear communication and agreements to avoid conflicts.As the episode unfolds, Karen and Jen tackle pressing questions such as what to consider when investing in a horse with a good bloodline and the implications of breeding. With a mix of humor and practical advice, they remind listeners to approach horse investment with realistic expectations and a genuine love for the equine world.Join them as they navigate the highs and lows of investing in horses, share personal anecdotes, and maybe even spark your interest in this unique venture. Tune in for a lively and informative discussion that blends passion with practicality! 🐴✨What aspect of horse investment do you find most intriguing?Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the complexities of leadership within the equestrian community, focusing particularly on the recent departure of Bill Moroney from the United States Equestrian Federation (USEF). Their lively banter explores the mixed reactions from the membership, examining the challenges leaders face in a social media-driven world.The conversation touches on:•The Role of Social Media: Jen and Karen discuss how leaders like Moroney have struggled to adapt to the digital landscape, often leading to disconnects with the very community they serve.•Communication Gaps: They highlight the importance of transparency and clarity in governance, suggesting that many members feel lost due to complicated jargon and insufficient outreach.•The Future of Leadership: The hosts speculate on potential successors and what qualities future leaders should possess to bridge the gap between grassroots members and the governing body.•Engagement Strategies: They emphasize the necessity for USEF to harness social media effectively to engage with members and foster a sense of community.With their characteristic humor and relatable insights, Jen and Karen navigate the challenges of modern leadership, making a case for a more connected and responsive equestrian governance. Tune in for a candid discussion that will resonate with anyone involved in the sport!Don’t forget to follow Scope for more engaging conversations on the issues that matter in the equestrian world.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of The Scope Podcast, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the fascinating world of horse show photography with special guest Bailey Smith of Bailey Smith Photography. With over a decade of experience, Bailey shares her journey from casually snapping pictures at events to becoming a sought-after professional in the field.The conversation explores:•The Evolution of Horse Show Photography: Bailey discusses how the shift to digital photography has impacted the industry, including the challenges posed by smartphone technology.•Etiquette and Ethics: The trio delves into the unwritten rules of horse show photography, including the dos and don’ts for spectators and competitors alike. They address the importance of respecting show photographers’ work and the implications of unauthorized photo sharing.•Business Insights: Bailey provides an insider’s view on how horse show photographers operate, including how they manage costs, pricing, and the dilemma of competing with amateur photographers.•The Future of Photography at Shows: The episode wraps up with a discussion on potential changes in horse show management’s approach to hiring photographers, including the idea of including photography fees in show entry costs.Join Jen, Karen, and Bailey for an insightful conversation filled with tips, stories, and a deeper understanding of the artistry and challenges behind capturing the perfect equestrian moment. Whether you’re a competitor, a parent, or simply a fan of horse shows, this episode offers valuable insights you won’t want to miss!Tune in now to learn more about the captivating world of horse show photography!Photo by Bailey Smith.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into an unexpected journey that intertwines a quest for authentic matcha with the rollercoaster experience of Junior Hunter Finals.The episode kicks off with a lighthearted discussion about Jen’s less-than-stellar social skills, particularly when it comes to navigating an Asian market in search of genuine matcha. As they humorously ponder the geographical identity of Japan, the conversation shifts to Jen’s disappointment over not attending the Junior Hunter Finals for the second consecutive year due to an unfortunate equine injury.Karen and Jen explore the evolving qualification criteria for the event, debating whether the new, more accessible standards dilute the competitive nature of the finals. They share insights on managing expectations and the importance of communication between trainers, riders, and parents.With heartfelt narratives about the Junior Hunter Finals grant awarded to Jen’s student, the duo considers the positive impact such grants can have on participants. However, their spirits dampen when discussing the complexities of scratching from the event and the USEF’s responses to their challenges, including the disappointing denial of a swag bag for the student.Throughout the episode, Karen and Jen reflect on broader issues within the USEF, emphasizing the importance of compassion and connection between leadership and members. Their candid conversation is both entertaining and thought-provoking, making it a must-listen for anyone involved in the equestrian community.Tune in to hear their stories, insights, and the heartfelt moments that make this episode a memorable exploration of competition, camaraderie, and the quest for the perfect matcha!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of The Scope Podcast, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into the often misunderstood world of training rides in the equestrian sport. They kick off the conversation with a light-hearted discussion about entertainment choices, touching on everything from Brian Adams to the Magic Mike show, before shifting gears to the essential topic at hand: how training rides can enhance both horse and rider performance.Karen and Jen explore the various reasons why training rides are beneficial, especially for young riders and horses in need of a refresher. They discuss how these rides can improve rideability and build confidence in both horses and riders, emphasizing the importance of understanding each horse’s unique needs. The hosts also share personal anecdotes about their own experiences with training rides, shedding light on the complexities of horse leasing and the nuances of training different horses.Listeners will learn about the signs that indicate a horse might need a training ride, the impact of professional rides on a horse’s performance, and how these sessions can help alleviate rider anxiety before competitions. The episode wraps up with practical tips for maximizing the value of training rides, including effective scheduling and the potential benefits of watching training sessions.Join Karen and Jen for an insightful discussion that demystifies training rides and highlights their critical role in the equestrian community. Whether you’re an experienced rider or just starting out, this episode offers valuable insights into enhancing your riding journey.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the world of equestrian education, exploring essential skills that young riders can learn outside the barn. With a lighthearted banter, they discuss how trainers might benefit from outsourcing certain tasks to the wealth of resources available online.The episode kicks off by suggesting that some practical horsemanship skills can be mastered through social media and video tutorials. Jen and Karen highlight several areas where trainers often lack the time to provide detailed instruction, including:•Tack Cleaning: They emphasize the importance of keeping tack in good condition and introduce viewers to helpful YouTube tutorials for effective cleaning and maintenance.•Boot Polishing: While Jen expresses her love for this task, she acknowledges that many riders could benefit from online guidance to achieve that perfect shine.•Stall Cleaning Techniques: The duo discusses various methods to make stall cleaning more efficient and encourages listeners to seek out instructional videos for best practices.•Stock Tying and Blanket Folding: They touch on the challenges of these tasks, recommending online resources for mastering the art of tying and folding.•Helmet Care: Addressing the often-overlooked maintenance of riding helmets, they share tips on proper cleaning techniques and emphasize the importance of helmet hygiene.•Hose Management: Jen and Karen stress the importance of properly rolling up hoses to maintain a tidy barn environment and prevent hazards.•Girth Tightening: They suggest that watching videos on this skill can provide riders with a better understanding than traditional instruction.•Drape Management: They conclude with a plea for a video tutorial on how to properly staple stall drapes, highlighting the need for safe and effective methods.Throughout the episode, Jen and Karen blend humor with practical advice, encouraging both trainers and riders to embrace online learning as a valuable tool for enhancing horsemanship skills. Their engaging dialogue makes this episode a must-listen for equestrian enthusiasts looking to expand their knowledge and skills.Join Jen and Karen for a fun and informative discussion on how to harness the power of the internet in the pursuit of better horse care and riding proficiency. Don’t forget to like, follow, and subscribe for more equestrian insights!Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin Jen Barker and Karen Tanner in this week’s hilariously insightful episode of The Scope podcast, where they dive deep into the wonderful world of adult amateurs. They tackle the misconceptions that plague this often misunderstood group, from the wild belief that all adult amateurs are flush with cash to the assumption that they’re just in it for the fashion (though, let’s be honest, looking good while riding is a bonus!).Expect plenty of laughs as Karen shares her thoughts on Vicks-flavored tissues (trust us, it’s a must-hear), while Jen plays the role of myth-buster extraordinaire, debunking stereotypes with a wink and a nudge. The duo wrestles with questions like: What even is an adult amateur? Are they just glorified party-goers? (Spoiler alert, NO!)Packed with banter, relatable anecdotes, and maybe a few too many references to fuzzy boots, this episode promises to shed light on the true spirit of adult amateurs—and maybe even convince you to join their ranks. Whether you’re an experienced horse rider or just someone who enjoys a good laugh, you won’t want to miss this enlightening romp through the equestrian universe!Don’t forget to tune in, laugh along, and subscribe for more equestrian escapades with Jen and Karen! 🎉🐴Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner explore the intriguing "Katie Van Slyke Effect," a phenomenon centered around the rising star of equestrian influencer Katie Van Slyke. With over 5 million followers on Tik Tok, and nearly 2 million followers on Instagram and a substantial presence across social media platforms, Katie has captivated audiences with her authentic storytelling and behind-the-scenes glimpses into her life as a horse breeder and competitor.Jen and Karen delve into:- **Katie’s Unique Brand**: Discover how Katie's relatable persona and candid sharing of both the joys and challenges of horse breeding resonate with her audience, drawing in fans from various backgrounds, even those unfamiliar with equestrian sports.- **Engagement Techniques**: The hosts discuss Katie's interactive approach, such as involving followers in naming her foals and sharing personal experiences, which fosters a strong sense of community and loyalty among her fans.- **Lessons for Hunter-Jumper Sports**: Jen and Karen reflect on how the insights from the Katie Van Slyke Effect could be leveraged to attract new fans to the hunter-jumper scene, emphasizing the need for relatable storytelling and genuine connections with audiences.- **Impact on Equestrian Culture**: They consider whether the hunter/jumper world is prepared for the scrutiny that comes with increased visibility and engagement, and what that would mean for the traditional, polished image often associated with the sport.Join Jen and Karen as they unpack the cultural significance of the Katie Van Slyke Effect and what it could mean for the future of equestrian sports. With a blend of humor and insightful commentary, this episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of social media and equestrian engagement!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of **Scope**, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into a compelling conversation with Sissy Wickes, an esteemed USEF judge and lifelong horse trainer. Sissy is the executive director of the nonprofit foundation, **Road to the Top**, dedicated to mentoring young equestrians as they navigate the financial and competitive hurdles of the sport. The discussion kicks off with an overview of the foundation’s mentorship programs, designed to elevate aspiring riders to the international level through structured support and guidance. Sissy elaborates on the foundation's origins, born from the need to create opportunities for the next generation of equestrians amidst rising costs and diminishing access in the equestrian world.Key topics include:- **The Financial Landscape**: Sissy addresses the escalating costs associated with equestrian sports and how this impacts access for aspiring riders, particularly at grassroots levels. She candidly questions the sustainability of these expenses and the broader implications for the sport.- **Opportunities for Young Riders**: The conversation highlights the importance of providing a robust pathway for talented athletes transitioning from junior divisions to professional ranks. Sissy emphasizes the need for mentorship and collaboration among established equestrians to foster emerging talent.- **Horsemanship and Business Acumen**: The episode underscores the significance of horsemanship as a foundational skill for riders, alongside essential business knowledge for managing a successful equestrian career. Sissy shares insights into how the Road to the Top program integrates these elements into its curriculum.- **Comparative Analysis with European Systems**: Sissy draws parallels between the U.S. equestrian framework and more established systems in Europe, exploring what the U.S. can learn from their approach to nurturing talent.- **Future Aspirations**: Wrapping up the conversation, Sissy shares her vision for Road to the Top over the next decade, aiming for closer integration with USEF and USET to create a seamless mentorship pipeline for young riders.Tune in to discover how the Road to the Top foundation is working to reshape the future of equestrian sports, ensuring that talent and ambition are met with opportunity and support. Don't forget to subscribe for more insights and discussions on the evolving landscape of equestrian sports!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this gripping episode of The Scope Podcast, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive deep into the shocking true crime story surrounding the shooting at Hawthorne Hill, as chronicled in the Netflix documentary. Join Jen and Karen as they explore the tumultuous relationship between renowned dressage trainer Michael Barisone and his client Lauren Kanarek, whose ambition and obsession spiral into chaos.Through candid discussions, the hosts reveal their personal reactions to the documentary, dissecting the complex dynamics between the characters involved. Michael, a former Olympian, finds himself at the heart of a dark narrative involving ego, ambition, and ultimately, violence. Lauren, portrayed as a demanding and controlling client, pushes the boundaries of their trainer-client relationship to dangerous extremes.With humor and insight, this episode promises to engage listeners who are fascinated by the darker side of ambition and the human psyche. Tune in for a riveting discussion that doesn’t shy away from the complexities of truth, perception, and consequence.Don’t miss this thrilling episode of Scope! Follow, like, and subscribe for more great episodes! Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into the fascinating world of equestrian events through a fun and informative lens. Join them as they explore the nuances of horse shows with their signature segment, "Red Flag, Green Flag, Pink Flag," this time with a special focus on the equestrian experience.**Highlights include:**- **Kentucky Derby and Oaks**: The episode kicks off with a light-hearted discussion about the iconic races and the quirky misconceptions surrounding them.  - **Weather Woes**: Karen and Jen tackle the impact of inclement weather on horse shows—what constitutes a red flag for cancellation, and how global warming might be changing the game. They weigh the pros and cons of canceling shows due to extreme heat and cold, emphasizing horse welfare.- **Footing Fundamentals**: What’s the deal with footing? The hosts debate natural versus synthetic footing, discussing the importance of safety and comfort for both horses and riders.- **Show Secretary Dynamics**: The episode takes a humorous turn as they discuss the role of show secretaries, examining whether a "mean" secretary is really all that bad. The conversation highlights the balance between professionalism and the pressures of a high-stakes environment.- **Biohazard Concerns**: With recent outbreaks of equine illnesses, Karen and Jen assert the necessity of canceling shows to protect horse health, advocating for strict biohazard protocols.- **Amenities Matter**: Finally, the conversation shifts to the often-overlooked amenities at horse shows. Karen admits to her red flag for shows lacking decent bathrooms and food options, while Jen offers a more balanced perspective on managing costs versus comfort.This episode is packed with insights, humor, and a unique perspective on what it means to be part of the horse show community. Whether you're a seasoned equestrian or just curious about the world of horse shows, Karen and Jen bring a fresh, entertaining take that you won't want to miss!Tune in to *Scope* for another engaging episode that will keep you informed and entertained!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the intriguing topic of "nepoquestrianism," a term they cleverly coin to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of growing up in equestrian families. Jen, hailing from a lineage of horse trainers, reflects on her early experiences on a horse farm, while Karen shares her contrasting upbringing with minimal horse exposure.The conversation explores the perceived benefits of being born into the sport, including access to resources and opportunities. Karen argues that early exposure can foster a deeper connection to horses, while Jen challenges the notion that such advantages guarantee success. They discuss the pressures faced by young riders from equestrian families, who often become integral to the family business, and the misconceptions held by outsiders about the lifestyle of trainer’s kids.As they navigate personal anecdotes and insights, the hosts emphasize the importance of balance in a rider's development, suggesting that a supportive environment can nurture both passion and skill, regardless of one’s background. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that unpacks the complexities of equestrian life and the varied paths within it. Join Jen and Karen for an episode that promises to enlighten and entertain, as they unravel the layers of nepotism in the equestrian world. Don’t forget to follow, like, and subscribe to keep up with more engaging conversations!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the unexpected fallout from their recent interview with Derek Braun, the organizer behind the 2026 FEI World Cup Finals. Initially excited about the opportunity to discuss the event and its challenges, things took a turn when Braun requested the removal of the episode and all related social media clips. Jen and Karen reflect on the interview's dynamics, including how questions surrounding ticket prices and spectator turnout led to Braun’s discomfort. They discuss their intentions behind the questions, emphasizing that their goal was to facilitate open dialogue rather than to create a sensationalized narrative. The hosts candidly express their disappointment over the situation, noting that important conversations about accessibility and the future of equestrian sports were stifled. They explore the complexities of balancing candid discussion with the realities of maintaining professional relationships in the industry. Throughout the episode, Jen and Karen underscore the importance of dialogue in bridging gaps within the equestrian community, advocating for a more inclusive approach to addressing the sport’s challenges.Join Jen and Karen as they unpack this intriguing turn of events, share their thoughts on the responsibilities of those at the top of the sport, and reflect on the importance of listening to diverse perspectives in fostering growth within the equestrian world.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of **The Scope Podcast**, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner welcome special guest Dr. Magda Wylie from South Carolina Equine Associates to dive into the intricacies of the pre-purchase exam (PPE) for horses. With Karen’s limited personal experience but a strong medical background as an athletic trainer, the conversation kicks off with a candid discussion about the purpose and importance of the PPE.Dr. Wylie dispels common misconceptions, emphasizing that pre-purchase exams are not black-and-white pass/fail scenarios but rather comprehensive risk assessments tailored to buyer expectations and the horse's intended use. She highlights the need for clear communication between the buyer, trainer, and vet, and discusses the critical role of thorough medical histories and documentation in the vetting process.Throughout the episode, listeners will learn about:- **The Purpose of a Pre-Purchase Exam**: Understanding it as a snapshot of the horse's condition on a given day, not a guarantee for the future.- **Risk Assessment**: How to evaluate the horse's potential for soundness and performance based on the buyer's goals and financial investment.- **Importance of Communication**: The necessity for buyers to be present during exams, and the significance of having a good relationship with their vet and trainer.- **Handling Contingencies**: Discussing the nuances of navigating awkward situations during exams, including the potential for unexpected findings and how to address them.- **Neurological Concerns**: Addressing fears surrounding neurological disorders in horses and the limitations of the PPE in detecting subtle issues.Dr. Wiley also shares personal anecdotes from her experiences performing pre-purchase exams, illustrating the unique challenges and decisions that arise in high-stakes situations. As the episode wraps up, the trio underscores the importance of preparation and collaboration among all parties involved in the horse-buying process.Whether you’re a seasoned equestrian or a first-time buyer, this episode offers valuable insights into making informed decisions in the often complex world of horse ownership. Don't miss this informative discussion on Scope!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope* Podcast, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the latest scandal rocking Wellington International. The episode kicks off with a light-hearted discussion about weddings, rompers, and family introductions, but quickly transitions to serious topics surrounding the alleged misconduct of the former Wellington International CEO, Murray Kessler. As they unpack the allegations against Kessler, including claims of employee battery and the subsequent fallout, Jen and Karen emphasize the importance of factual reporting in the equestrian community. They also explore how the U.S. Equestrian Federation (USEF) has been spending its funds, questioning the rationale behind a $200,000 sponsorship for prize money at the Winter Equestrian Festival.The hosts propose a series of creative and impactful ways that the USEF could better allocate these funds, promoting grassroots engagement and welfare initiatives. Ideas include grants for barns to enhance safety measures, conducting membership surveys to foster engagement, and supporting heritage horse showgrounds to preserve the sport's rich history.Tune in for a riveting blend of gossip, serious discussion, and innovative solutions as Jen and Karen navigate the complexities of the equestrian world, leaving listeners with a sense of community and a call to action for transparency and improvement. Don't miss this engaging episode where the tea is hot, and the insights are invaluable!Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner in this lively episode of *The Scope Podcast* as they dive into the fascinating and controversial world of braiding in the hunter world. Titled "Braider Gate," this episode unpacks the recent drama surrounding the U.S.E.F.  rule mandating horses to have six consecutive hours of rest, creating a stir among braiders and show organizers.### Key Topics Covered:- **The Braiding Dilemma**: Explore why braiding has become a hot-button issue this winter at the World Equestrian Center (WEC) and how new regulations are impacting the lives of braiders.  - **Safety and Comfort**: Jen and Karen discuss the balance between horse welfare and braiders' working conditions, including the challenges of working in low light and the potential safety concerns for braiders navigating the showgrounds at night.- **A Compromise in the Spotlight**: The hosts consider whether braiders should adapt by using headlights or if there are better alternatives that would allow for both safety and optimal horse care.- **Tradition vs. Modern Practices**: Delve into the historical significance of braiding in equestrian sports and whether it's time to rethink this tradition in light of new welfare standards.- **Humor and Insight**: With their signature wit, Jen and Karen sprinkle in relatable anecdotes and personal experiences, making the complex topic accessible and engaging.This episode is perfect for equestrian enthusiasts, industry professionals, and anyone curious about the intersection of tradition and modern welfare practices in the horse show world. Don't miss out on this spirited discussion—tune in to *Scope* for a blend of drama, insight, and horse-loving camaraderie! Be sure to subscribe, rate, and leave your comments, and join Jen and Karen again next time for more captivating conversations!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive deep into the world of deviled eggs and the complexities of drug regulations in horse shows. With a mix of humor and expert insight, they kick things off discussing the art of making the perfect deviled egg—those delightful Southern staples that Jen claims she could whip up for dinner any day.As the conversation shifts from culinary delights to the serious topic of the new USEF drug rule set to take effect on June 1, 2026, the duo unpacks the implications for horse owners and trainers. They explore how the new regulations will hold both horses and their responsible parties accountable for drug violations, ensuring that penalties reflect the seriousness of the offense. Key points in this episode include:- **Deviled Egg Mastery**: Jen shares her foolproof method for boiling and peeling eggs, while Karen reflects on the importance of ingredient choices (watch out for that Miracle Whip!).- **New Drug Regulations**: The hosts discuss how the upcoming rule change will affect accountability in horse shows, emphasizing the importance of horse welfare and ethical practices.- **Impact on Owners and Trainers**: The conversation highlights the necessity for improved communication and meticulous record-keeping among trainers, veterinarians, and owners to ensure compliance and care.- **Concerns and Benefits**: While the hosts recognize the potential benefits of the new rules, they also address concerns about increased costs and the possible decline in horsemanship as trainers may take on more responsibility.Join Jen and Karen as they celebrate their podcast anniversary with laughter, insightful discussions, and a commitment to the welfare of horses in the sport. Whether you're a horse enthusiast or just love a good deviled egg, this episode is packed with relatable anecdotes and valuable information.Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and join the conversation as they continue to tackle the pressing issues in the equestrian world!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of Scope, Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the complexities of advancement in equestrian sports, exploring the fine line between ambition and readiness. With a nostalgic nod to the 80s and 90s, they share personal hair journeys while transitioning into a serious discussion about the pressures trainers  feel up allow riders to "move up" in jumping levels. The hosts dissect the notion of advancement as a status symbol and the potential pitfalls it can create for both riders and trainers. They emphasize the importance of competency over mere ambition and introduce the concept of Minimum Eligibility Requirements (MERS) as a framework for ensuring safety and skill in the sport. As they navigate through various viewpoints on how to balance horse welfare and rider capability, they highlight the necessity for trainer certification and the potential benefits it could bring to the equestrian community. With a sprinkle of humor and candid reflections, Jen and Karen address the challenges faced by trainers in guiding riders toward responsible advancement, ultimately urging listeners to prioritize skill, safety, and the integrity of the sport. Join them for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges the status quo and encourages a deeper understanding of the risks and rewards in the journey of equestrian advancement.---If you have any specific elements you’d like to focus on or adjust, let me know!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this captivating episode of **The Scope Podcast**, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner dive into the wild world of true crime, focusing on the notorious case of Rita Crundwell—responsible for the largest municipal fraud in U.S. history. Join them as they explore the intricacies of Crundwell’s 20-year embezzlement scheme that siphoned off a staggering $53 million from her hometown of Dixon, Illinois. From her charming demeanor as the town's comptroller to the shocking revelations of her lavish spending on horses, spa visits, and luxury vehicles, Jen and Karen peel back the layers of Crundwell’s double life. - **The Setup**: The episode kicks off with a light-hearted banter about “healthy” versions of desserts, setting the stage for a discussion about expectation versus reality—an apt metaphor for Crundwell’s life.  - **Rita’s Reign**: Listeners will learn about Rita’s rise in the equestrian world, her connections, and how she manipulated city funds to support her passion for horses, culminating in a $2 million motor home and extravagant show horses.- **The Discovery**: The story takes a dramatic turn as the hosts discuss the pivotal role of city clerk Katie Swanson, who unearthed the fraudulent activities, leading to the involvement of the FBI.- **Culmination and Consequences**: As the episode unfolds, Jen and Karen detail Rita’s arrest, trial, and eventual sentencing, reflecting on what this case reveals about white-collar crime and its impact on the community.- **Reflective Insights**: The duo wraps up with a thoughtful discussion on the pressures within the equestrian industry and the lengths some might go to support their passions.With humor and insightful commentary, this episode promises to be both entertaining and thought-provoking. Tune in to **Scope** for a unique blend of crime, culture, and a dash of equestrian flair!Don't forget to hit follow and join Jen and Karen in their next deep dive into another riveting topic!Support the show

Send us Fan Mail**The Scope Podcast**  Join co-hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner for lively discussions that dive deep into the world of sports, especially focusing on the unique dynamics of equestrian athletics. In this episode, they explore the fascinating intersection of gender in sports, the role of sponsorship, and the emotional connections that shape the rider-horse bond.From the fun of imagining a Flavor Flav-themed party in Vegas to dissecting the importance of representation in equestrian sports, Jen and Karen bring their signature humor and insight to the conversation. They tackle thought-provoking questions like whether men and women truly compete on an equal playing field in equestrian disciplines and how societal norms influence sponsorship and visibility in the sport.As they approach their one-year podcast anniversary, listen in as they reflect on their journey, the evolving landscape of women's athletics, and the unique challenges faced by female equestrians. Whether you’re a seasoned rider, a sports enthusiast, or just curious about the intersection of gender and athletics, this episode promises to entertain and enlighten.**Tune in to The Scope Podcast!** Don't forget to like, follow, and subscribe for more engaging discussions about the world of sports.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of **The Scope Podcast**, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner welcome the multi-talented Maxi Witrak, a comedian, actress, fitness trainer, and graduate of Johns Hopkins University, who hails from Los Angeles. Maxi shares her fascinating journey through the equestrian world, detailing her early experiences in various riding disciplines, including Arabian and Morgan shows, fox hunting, and endurance riding. As the conversation unfolds, Maxi draws parallels between the adrenaline rush of performing in comedy and the pressures of competing in horseback riding. She reflects on her childhood experiences under her mother’s guidance. The trio dives into the unique challenges faced by comedians, especially when addressing horse-related material. Maxi discusses how she navigates between horse enthusiasts and broader audiences, emphasizing the importance of context in delivering her comedic content. The episode also touches on the absurdities of the equestrian community, including the dynamics of celebrity status at horse shows, and the pressures that come with it.Amidst the laughter, Maxi provides insights into her role as a mentor for aspiring comedians, paralleling it with Jen’s experience  in training riders. The episode wraps up with Maxi’s upcoming projects, including her debut special and her plans to engage with the horse community through events and clinics in the future.Join us for a lighthearted yet insightful conversation that blends humor, performance, and a shared love for horses! Follow Maxi on Instagram for updates on her latest endeavors. Don’t forget to like and subscribe to **The Scope Podcast** for more engaging discussions!Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner in this lively episode of "The Scope Podcast,” where they dive into the world of coaching dynamics through the lens of "Red Flag, Green Flag, Pink Flag." ### Key Highlights:- **Pushing Comfort Zones**: Jen and Karen explore the green flags of a coach who encourages growth while also recognizing the delicate balance needed to avoid overwhelming students. - **Assessing Progress**: The duo tackles the complexities of progress in training, debating whether lack of improvement is a coach's fault or a matter of individual capability.- **Financial Pressures**: They discuss the ethical implications of pushing students into financial discomfort, emphasizing the importance of transparent communication.- **Belittling Behavior**: Jen and Karen agree on the red flags of coaches who belittle their students, pointing out the need for constructive criticism delivered with care.- **Professional Practices**: The conversation wraps up with a candid examination of questionable professional practices and the significance of maintaining trust in the coach-student relationship.This episode is packed with insightful commentary and relatable anecdotes, making it a must-listen for anyone involved in coaching or sports training. Tune in for a fun and informative take on what to look out for in a coach! Don’t forget to follow and subscribe for more engaging discussions on "Scope!"Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner delve into the world of equestrian sports with a special guest, Daniel Geitner, the 2025 USEF National Horseman of the Year and co-founder of the United States Equestrian Trainers Association (USETA). Join us as we explore the origins of USETA, a groundbreaking organization aimed at giving equestrian trainers a united voice to address their concerns with governing bodies like USEF and USHJA. Daniel shares the story behind the association's inception, sparked by frustrations voiced at horse shows, and discusses its mission to foster collaboration and improvement within the industry.Key topics include:- **The Need for a Unified Voice**: Daniel explains how USETA aims to empower trainers to voice their opinions collectively, from praising successful horse shows to addressing issues that arise.- **Diversity and Representation**: Addressing early criticisms about the leadership structure, Daniel highlights efforts to create an advisory board that reflects the diversity of the equestrian community.- **Future Goals**: The conversation touches on the importance of making equestrian sports accessible for the next generation, ensuring horse welfare, and considering the needs of all professionals, including trainers, judges, horse show staff, and grooms.- **Innovative Ideas**: Daniel discusses inspirations from international models of horse showing and the potential for adopting new practices to enhance the experience for all involved.With candid insights and a vision for the future of equestrian sports, this episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about horses and the equestrian industry. Tune in for an engaging discussion that promises to illuminate the challenges and opportunities ahead.Don’t forget to subscribe to *Scope* for more insights into the equestrian world! 🐴✨Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin co-hosts Jen Barker and Karen Tanner on this part two episode of *The Scope Podcast* as they dive deep into the evolving landscape of NCEA equestrian sports, particularly focusing on the recent transition of the UC Davis equestrian team to a club sport.The hosts discuss the controversial replacement of equestrian with stunt as an NCAA Division 1 sport at UC Davis, examining the implications for female athletes and the broader equestrian community. They emphasize the need for solidarity among women’s sports rather than tearing each other down. Throughout the episode, they explore practical solutions to improve visibility and accessibility for equestrian sports, including innovative ideas for competition formats, community outreach, and event locations. Jen and Karen share their thoughts on how to modernize the sport to attract a wider audience, with a focus on enhancing fan engagement and understanding of the scoring system.As passionate advocates for equestrian, they challenge the community to come together, support one another, and work toward a sustainable future for NCAA equestrian. Tune in for a heartfelt conversation that balances critique with constructive solutions, all while celebrating the beauty and excitement of the sport.Don’t forget to follow, like, and subscribe to *Scope* for more insightful discussions!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this sure-to-be controversial episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker explore the intricacies of Title IX and its implications for equestrian sports, alongside the recent downgrade of the UC Davis equestrian team from a Division 1 varsity sport to a club sport. With heartfelt sympathy for the affected athletes, they express hopes for the team’s future while emphasizing the need for other Division 1 equestrian teams to recognize this shift as a warning signal.The conversation delves into the financial challenges facing equestrian programs, specifically when compared to other sports such as Stunt—a fast paced women’s sport that is derived from cheerleading.  Jen suggests that teams need to take the initiative in funding themselves, while Karen passionately counters that the responsibility shouldn't rest on coaches and riders. As tensions rise, Jen introduces an innovative funding model that focuses on raising money through horse development rather than traditional monetary donations, which Karen finds intriguing.This multifaceted conversation sets the groundwork for the next episode, where they will address how to make the NCAA equestrian format more spectator-friendly.Join Karen and Jen for a captivating dialogue that not only examines the current landscape of collegiate equestrian sports but also paves the way for future discussions on equity and sustainability in the sport!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this thought-provoking episode of *The Scope* podcast, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker dive into the nuanced world of equine care, exploring the fine line between effective horsemanship and an overwhelming reliance on excessive services. As trends like massage therapy, cryotherapy, and various supplements gain popularity, the duo questions whether these treatments are truly necessary for every horse.Karen and Jen tackle the implications of this shift, pondering if the rise of "extra" treatments is creating barriers to entry in equestrian sports, making them less accessible to aspiring riders and enthusiasts. They assert that no amount of therapy or veterinary intervention can make a horse suitable for a job if it isn't inherently fit for the task at hand.The conversation also highlights the concept of being "serviceably sound"—the idea that a horse can be imperfect yet still capable and happy in its role. With fewer horses now being classified as serviceably sound, the landscape is shifting towards unrealistic standards, where horses are either deemed perfect or considered unusable. This shift not only affects how we view horses but also contributes to rising prices in the equine market.Join Karen and Jen as they challenge the norms, encouraging listeners to rethink what it means to provide quality care while ensuring that equestrian sports remain inclusive and accessible for all.Support the show

Send us Fan MailAs we step into the new year, it's the perfect time for equestrians to reflect and set intentions that will elevate their riding experience and horse care practices. In this episode, we delve into five transformative New Year’s resolutions tailored specifically for horse lovers. 1. **Purge, Clean, and Repair Equipment and Tack**: Learn the importance of starting fresh by decluttering your tack room or tack trunk. We’ll discuss how regular maintenance can extend the life of your gear and enhance safety.2. **Establish an Organizational System**: Discover effective strategies for organizing your equipment and supplies. A well-structured space can streamline your routine and reduce stress during busy days.3. **Make a Plan for Horse Shows and Lesson Schedules**: Planning ahead is key! Create a comprehensive schedule for lessons and shows, ensuring you and your horse are always prepared for success.4. **Reevaluate Your Budget**: Financial transparency is essential. We discuss evaluating costs, budgeting for horse care, and strategizing for upcoming horse shows.5. **Refocus on Horsemanship Practices**: Finally, we’ll dive into the heart of horsemanship. We’ll encourage listeners to reassess their care routines and develop a year-long plan for their horse’s well-being.Join us as we set the stage for a year of growth, organization, and enhanced equestrian practices. Whether you’re a seasoned rider or just starting, these resolutions will help you and your horse thrive in the coming year!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this thought-provoking episode of *The Scope Podcast*, hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker take a closer look at a compelling statement made by their recent guest, Ronny Riemer, the esteemed German riding instructor. Ronny stirred the pot with his assertion that he doesn’t have clients—he has students—and emphasized that his primary concern lies not in the happiness of these individuals, but rather in the care of their horses and his role as an exceptional athletic coach.As Karen and Jen delve into this provocative viewpoint, they explore the implications of Ronny's philosophy. While they resonate with the idea that the well-being of the horse should be paramount, they also highlight the complexities of the instructor-student relationship. In this episode, they discuss scenarios where the dynamics shift, and the student’s role as a paying client becomes significant. How can one balance the rigorous demands of training with the need for emotional support and satisfaction?Listeners can expect an engaging dialogue that invites them to reflect on their own experiences in the equestrian world, considering the multifaceted roles that instructors and students play. Tune in for a nuanced discussion that challenges traditional notions of client relationships in sports coaching, all while keeping the horses' best interests at heart. Join Karen and Jen for this enlightening conversation that promises to expand your understanding of the equestrian coaching landscape!Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin cohosts Karen and Jen in this exciting episode as they sit down with Ronny Reimer,  known online as The German Riding Instructor. Ronny shares his unique insights into the newly formed United Dressage and Jumping Club (UDJC) and his unofficial title as the “ultra supporter.” Dive into a rich discussion about how European equestrians cultivate a community-centered atmosphere at horse shows.  Listen in as he describes how, as co-founder of the Local Champions Tour, he’s using the European equestrian model to help make the sport more accessible for Americans.Finally Ronny touches on the professional wrestling career that initially brought him to The United States.Ronnie’s passion for the equestrian world provides valuable lessons for riders and enthusiasts alike. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that bridges cultures and celebrates the love of horses!Support the show

Send us Fan Mail### Scope Podcast - Listener Q&AIn this engaging episode of the Scope Podcast, hosts Karen and Jen dive into an array of listener questions that cover essential topics in the equestrian world. - **OTTBs vs. Warmbloods:** Tune in as they discuss the pros and cons of Off-the-Track Thoroughbreds vs. warmbloods.   - **Decline in Horsemanship:** Karen and Jen explore some possible reasons behind  the perceived decline in horsemanship skills. - **Professional vs. Amateur Riders:** The hosts analyze  discuss when and why professional riders compete against amateurs and juniors. - **Best Age to Start Riding:** Karen and Jen share insights on the ideal age for young equestrians to start their riding journey, offering advice for parents and aspiring riders alike.Join us for a thoughtful discussion that promises to enlighten and inspire equestrians of all levels! Don't miss out on this opportunity to gain insights from experienced riders who are passionate about the sport.Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin hosts Karen Tanner and Jen Barker in this exciting episode of the **Scope Podcast**, where they dive into some of the most common questions Jen receives as a horse trainer. In this episode:- **Karen** poses typical inquiries like “How much does a Junior Hunter cost?” and “How do I teach my horse to change leads?”- **Jen** shares her insights and experiences from the world of equestrian sports, providing practical advice and tips for listeners.- The duo then turns to ChatGPT for answers to the same questions, sparking a lively discussion on the differences between human expertise and AI-generated responses.Will Jen's answers hold up against the AI's? Tune in to find out if ChatGPT agrees with her insights or if the hosts have a few surprises in store!Whether you’re a seasoned equestrian or just curious about the world of horses, this episode is packed with valuable information and engaging conversation. Don’t miss it! ### Listen Now! 🎧---Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this episode of *The Scope Podcast*, Jen Barker dives into the world of equine transportation with a special guest, her brother, John Barker an experienced truck driver and self-proclaimed "equine relocation specialist" for Johnson Horse Transportation. Join Jen and John as they explore the ins and outs of shipping horses, sharing invaluable insights for horse owners looking to prepare their animals and equipment for a smooth transport experience. John candidly reveals the essential things he wishes every client knew about his job, including common practices that can complicate the process, such as using blankets with leg straps.Listeners will benefit from John's expert tips on planning routes and navigating horse show entrances and exits to ensure a user-friendly experience. Whether you're a seasoned horse owner or new to transporting equines, this episode is packed with practical advice and personal anecdotes that shed light on the complexities of horse transportation. Tune in for an enlightening conversation that will help you and your horses travel with ease! Don't miss this opportunity to learn from the best in the business and ensure your next horse shipping experience is a success!Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin hosts Jen, a seasoned professional horse trainer and rider, and Karen, a dedicated horse show parent and former client of Jen's, as they dive into the fascinating world of horse training and client relationships in this week’s episode. In a fun and insightful game they call “Red Flag, Green Flag, Pink Flag,” Jen presents various scenarios to Karen, who helps determine whether each situation is a red flag (a serious concern), a green flag (a positive indicator), or a pink flag (somewhat concerning but requiring more information). This week, they're focusing on potential red flags that clients might display when “interviewing” a new trainer or barn. Tune in as they explore examples like:- Clients who frequently change trainers or barns (the infamous barn hoppers)- Enthusiastic clients eager to showcase their horse knowledge- Those with extensive wardrobes for their horses or an overwhelming number of supplementsWhether you're a trainer, a client, or just a horse enthusiast, this episode is packed with valuable insights to help you navigate the trainer-client dynamic. Don’t miss it!🎧 **Listen now and discover how to spot the flags that could impact your equestrian journey!**Support the show

Send us Fan Mail'Tis the season! Karen and Jen have made their lists and checked them twice...listen to find out who has been naughty and who has been nice!Also, Karen and Jen discuss great gifts for clients and sweet surprises for trainers--and even get some help from Adriane Potter of The Tack Room in Camden South Carolina. You won't want to miss any of the recommendations! Websites and Coupon Codes below:The Tack Roomwww.tackroomonline.comUse code SCOPE10 for 10% offWeather Or Not Equestrianwww.wonequestrian.comWaterproof, Chemical free breeches!! Get them now before they are gone! Use code SCOPE for free shipping and a FREE WON t-shirtHappy Horse CoffeeDelicious Small Batch Coffee roasted in the Carolinas! www.happyhorse.coffeeSupport the show

Send us Fan Mail**Want to see the red flags in all of their glory? This episode is also available on The Scope Podcast’s YouTube Channel!!**https://youtu.be/lNkNBJMJ3r4Join hosts Jen, a seasoned horse trainer and rider, and Karen, a dedicated horse show parent and one of Jen's former clients, for a thought-provoking episode of The Scope Podcast! In this entertaining new segment, "Red Flag, Green Flag, or Pink Flag," the duo dives into some controversial practices in Equestrian Sports. This week, Jen will present various rules and policies that horse owners might encounter, from how barns handle farrier and vet payments to their feeding practices and accessibility. Jen and Karen will weigh in on whether these practices raise alarm bells (red flags), signal safety and quality (green flags), or warrant a cautious approach (pink flags). 🔗 Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review! Let us know your thoughts on the flags we discuss and share your own experiences in the horse community. Happy listening! 🐴✨Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin hosts Karen and Jen in this insightful episode as they dive into the world of catch riding, working students, and the dynamics of working off riding lessons in equestrian sports. They explore the nuances of these important topics, shedding light on the challenges and opportunities available for young riders and their families.- **Young Riders:** Karen and Jen discuss the realities of very young children and the physical demands of working off riding lessons. They highlight alternative ways for parents to engage with their child's equestrian journey, including trading services for lessons or board.- **The Working Student Experience:** The hosts emphasize that being a working student requires not only skill but also an exceptional work ethic. They share personal anecdotes and tips for navigating this challenging yet rewarding role in the equestrian community.- **Catch Riding Pressure:** The episode also touches on the pressure that comes with catch riding, a topic Karen passionately addresses. She points out that not all barns can provide the opportunities and benefits that working students seek, leading to important considerations for aspiring riders.Tune in for an engaging conversation packed with practical advice, personal stories, and a deeper understanding of the equestrian world. Whether you’re a seasoned rider or just starting out, this episode is sure to inspire and inform!Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin hosts Jen, a lifelong equestrian professional and rider, and Karen, a dedicated parent of an equestrian trained by Jen, as they dive into an essential conversation about accessibility in horse sports. In this episode, Jen presents a **five-prong plan** designed to open the doors of equestrian sports to new riders without the immediate pressure of purchasing or leasing a horse.Jen breaks down each point of their plan, focusing on the importance of preserving lesson barns, riding schools, and beginner programs that serve as vital entry points for aspiring equestrians. Karen adds her perspective as a parent, evaluating the viability and impact of each proposal.**Key Points Discussed:**1. **Normalizing Higher Prices:** Understanding the need for higher lesson prices at riding schools and lesson barns that use school horses, ensuring these programs can thrive and continue to provide access.   2. **Eliminating Low-Level Classes at High-Level Shows:** Aiming to encourage beginners to support foundational programs by removing low-level classes from high level horse shows.3. **Investment by Top-Tier Barns:** Advocating for top-tier equestrian facilities to invest in developing their own lesson programs, creating a sustainable model for training new riders.4. **Collaboration Between Programs:** Encouraging partnerships between elite barns and smaller foundational programs to create a funnel system that guides new riders through their equestrian journey.5. **Tiered Certification System for Trainers:** Introducing a certification system that helps trainers specialize in different levels and aids new riders and parents in identifying suitable barns for their needs.Tune in for an enlightening discussion that not only highlights the challenges faced by new riders but also offers actionable solutions to make equestrian sports more inclusive and welcoming. Whether you're a seasoned rider, a parent, or someone interested in the equestrian world, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss! ---Support the show

Send us Fan MailKaren and Jen discuss the USHJA Trainer Certification Program and explore why it hasn't gained traction. They delve into the reluctance of well-known equestrian professionals to embrace the certification and suggest ways to encourage lifelong professionals to take the certification test and lead live teaching sessions. Karen, who is both a certified personal trainer and a certified athletic trainer, highlights the fact that these professions require not only certification but continuing education, raising the question of why the same standards shouldn't apply to horse trainers. The hosts emphasize the potential benefits of promoting certified trainers to the general public, especially for those seeking their first horse trainers. They draw comparisons with licensing requirements in Massachusetts for horse trainers and in the broader context of cosmetology licenses across the states. While acknowledging that certification may not eliminate poor training practices, they argue that it can significantly uplift the professionalism and the reputation of horse trainers in the industry. Tune in for thought provoking conversation that challenges the status quo and discusses practical steps to enhance credibility within the equestrian community. Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin Karen and Jen as they dive into the complexities of balancing client needs with the demands of life on the road. In this insightful episode, they explore the challenges faced by busy trainers who are frequently away at horse shows, leaving some clients behind. What happens when a trainer can't be there for every lesson? Should they find a substitute instructor to step in, and if so, how should pricing be handled? Jen and Karen discuss the expectations of clients left at home, the pressures trainers face upon returning, and the delicate balance of maintaining relationships while ensuring all clients feel valued. Is patience a virtue, or should clients consider seeking out another trainer if they feel neglected? Tune in as they navigate these tough questions, share personal stories, and offer practical advice for both trainers and clients in the equestrian world. Whether you're a trainer juggling multiple commitments or a client feeling the weight of waiting, this episode is packed with insights to help you find your way forward.Support the show

Send us Fan MailBefore they get to the episode Karen and Jen begin with a hilarious exchange about a potential guest; Xavier Legette, horse lover, wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers Football team and former South Carolina Gamecock. X, have your people call our people! Now on to the show…Building on their previous discussion about the tensions between equestrian professionals and amateur clients, Karen and Jen shift the focus to the positive aspects that unite them.Listen in as they explore what professionals truly appreciate about horses, the sport, and the rewarding career paths they've chosen.The hosts also tackle practical solutions for avoiding conflicts between individuals in the equestrian community. They discuss effective communication strategies and proactive approaches that can lead to more long lasting relationships. Moreover, Jen and Karen emphasize the importance of mutual appreciation and empathy. They offer tips on how professionals can express gratitude to their clients and vice versa, even discussing discounts, and gifts. Whether you're a rider, trainer, parent, or simply an equestrian enthusiast, this episode is packed with valuable insights and heartfelt discussions that celebrate the bond between professionals, clients and horses. Tune in to discover how to strengthen these relationships and enhance your equestrian experience!Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this thought-provoking episode, hosts Jen, a seasoned horse trainer and rider, and Karen, a devoted horse show parent and former client of Jen's, delve into the complex relationship between professional horse people and their amateur clients. They tackle the often contentious divide that exists in the equestrian world, exploring the feelings of elitism that some professionals exude and the frustrations that arise from clients feeling sidelined in their horse’s training and care.Karen introduces key topics that frequently spark discord, such as the high costs associated with equestrian sports.  She shares her own experiences, highlighting the resentment some clients feel towards the time professionals spend in the barn, fostering a sense of separation between the two groups. Jen candidly acknowledges these feelings and offers her perspective, expressing her own frustrations regarding how some clients interact with professionals. As the conversation unfolds, both hosts realize that the key to overcoming these challenges lies in establishing clear boundaries, fostering honest communication, and encouraging open dialogue. Join Jen and Karen for an engaging discussion that aims to foster understanding and collaboration in the equestrian community, bridging the gap between professionals and amateurs for a more harmonious experience for all involved.Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this powerful episode, Jen and Karen sit down with Andrew Ellis, an equestrian known for his roles as a horse show manager, announcer, and starter. Andrew shares his gripping story of resilience and recovery following a devastating riding accident at the age of 13 that not only changed the course of his life but also set him on a path of addiction.As Andrew recounts his journey, he opens up about how the accident led to a long hospital stay and the emotional turmoil that followed, which he sought to cope with through food. For Andrew, food became his "gateway drug," leading to chronic pain, obesity, and a battle with pain pill addiction that spiraled into a full-blown crisis by the age of 40. Despite his struggles, Andrew's charisma and outlandish behavior made him popular in social settings, yet this façade masked a deeper pain and insecurity.After hitting rock bottom, Andrew sought help, completing a 28-day rehabilitation program that marked the beginning of his ongoing journey to sobriety. Now, over a decade later, he remains committed to his recovery, attending AA meetings even after long days at horse shows. Join us as we delve into Andrew's inspiring story, exploring the unique challenges faced by those in the equestrian community who may be battling addiction in silence. We discuss the importance of awareness, support, and open dialogue, shedding light on how fellow equestrians can play a pivotal role in encouraging those in need to seek help. This episode is a heartfelt reminder that no one is alone in their struggles, and recovery is a journey worth taking.Support the show

Send us Fan MailJoin Karen and Jen for an insightful episode that dives deep into the world of horse sales. With Jen drawing on her experience in selling and buying horses as well as opinions collected from other trainers, she sheds light on the common pitfalls and unprofessional behaviors that potential buyers often exhibit--like "kicking tires,' failing to follow up after a trial, or riding a horse for too long despite knowing it's not the right fit. Karen, bringing her perspective as a parent who has navigated the leasing and buying of multiple horses for her children, responds with her own list of do's and don'ts. Together they explore the nuances of buyer etiquette and share practical advice for making the horse buying experience smoother and more respectful for everyone involved. Tune in for a fun, informative discussion that promises to elevate your understanding of the equestrian marketplace. Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this thought-provoking episode, Jen and Karen dive deep into the whirlwind of controversy sparked by Jen's recent statements. Last week, Jen suggested that trainers should have a say in their riders' attire for the show ring and the social media images they share. The commentary ignited a firestorm of reactions from listeners, many voicing concerns that Jen's views may contribute to the already overwhelming pressure to present a perfect image in the equestrian world. Using social media comments as a springboard, Jen and Karen explore the multifaceted reasons behind the intense pressure faced by riders. They dissect the the technical demands of the sport, the significant financial investment required, and the pervasive influence of social media in shaping perceptions. The discussion also addresses the unwritten rule that emotions should remain concealed in the competitive arena, leading to a culture that often prioritizes appearances over authenticity. Join Karen and Jen as they navigate these complex themes, offering insights and personal anecdotes that shed light on the challenges equestrians face today. Whether you are a rider, a parent, or simply an equestrian enthusiast, this episode will resonate with anyone grappling with the balancing act of passion, performance, and the pursuit of perfection in the world of horses. Support the show

Send us Fan MailKaren and Jen discuss the often overlooked role of clients in shaping a barn's brand. They explore the intricate relationship between branding and client expectations, from the necessity of custom tack trunks and horse clothes, to the financial contributions for horse show exhibitors parties. Tune in to hear how a rider's attire in the show ring not only reflects personal style but also serves as a visual extension of the barns brand. The conversation highlights the importance of social media in today's equestrian world and how adhering to a barn's full service or DIY culture is an important part of communicating the brand. Support the show

Send us Fan MailIn this enlightening episode Jen and Karen welcome a special guest; Luke Tanner, Karen's son. As one of the few boys in a sport traditionally dominated by females at the amateur level, Luke shares his unique perspective on the equestrian community.Join the conversation as they explore Luke's experiences competing in horse shows, where he enjoyed a warm reception free from typical body comparisons and mean-spirited rivalry. Luke found himself frequently recognized with sportsmanship awards, a distinction that sparked discussions about gender dynamics in competitive environments. Together, they delve into the contrasts between male and female behaviors in the equestrian world, shedding light on how camaraderie and competition intersect. Tune in for an insightful dialogue that celebrates inclusivity and challenges stereotypes in the sport of horseback riding. Support the show