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The Vertical Space is a leisure podcast hosted by Jim Barry, Peter Shannon & Luka Tomljenovic. It has 108 episodes, with the latest published March 2026.

The Vertical Space is a podcast at the intersection of technology and flight, featuring deep dives with innovators, early adopters, and industry leaders.We talk about the radical impact that technology is creating as it disrupts flight, enabling new ways to access the vertical space to improve our lives - from small drones to large aircraft. Our guests are operators and innovators across the value chain: airframers, technologists, data and service providers, as well as end users. 

leisure ·en-us ·108 episodes

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#108 Alex List, FlyShirley: 'Shirley' there's an opportunity for AI in the flight deck

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#107 Robert Rose, Reliable Robotics: Congressional testimony and conveyor belts in the sky

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#106 Koen De Vos: U-Space, U-Space… Where Art Thou?

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#105 Ben Ivers, Boeing: Airspace modernization

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#104 Edward Barraclough, Drone-Hand: Why ranching will scale autonomy before defense

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#103 Ed Bastian, Delta Air Lines: Raising the ceiling of possibility

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#102 Adam Woodworth, Wing: What aviation looks like at Google scale

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#101 Ryan Gury, PDW: Drones, Innovation, and Lady Gaga

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#100 Chris Hewlett, Project ULTRA: Why DoD will lead UAS integration

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#99 Jia Xu, SkyGrid: Opening the sky for autonomous flight

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#98 Ryan Graves, ASA: UAPs as a wake-up call for airspace safety and innovation

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#97 Julie Garland, Avtrain: Drone business and regulation in Europe

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#96 Chad Sweet, ModalAI: Small, smarter, safer UAS - made in USA

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#95 Serhii Kupriienko, Swarmer: Building swarms in Ukraine’s drone war

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#94 Brandon Suarez, Reliable Robotics:  Balancing safety and operational benefits

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#93 Joey Rios, NASA and UTM: Solve Something Right Now

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#92 Richard Aboulafia: Supply chain bottlenecks and the New Aerospace Order

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#91 George Mattson, Wheels Up: The integrated customer experience

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#90 Chris Gentile, Merlin: Inside the race for trusted tactical autonomy

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#89 Christian Ramsey, uAvionix: Tackling aviation safety from drones to airports

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#88 Captain Lee Moak: The time for change is now

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#87 Arnaud Thiercelin, Orqa: Cutting through the gimmicks and winning the drone marathon

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#86 Carey Cannon: 38 years of rotorcraft development – insights from a Bell Senior Chief Engineer

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#85 Sean Donohue, DFW Airport: A CEO's perspective on running a global airport

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#84 Jenn Player, Skydio: Autonomous drone operations

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#83 Amit Ganjoo, ANRA: Lessons from the Dallas Key Site UTM implementation

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#82 Bobby Sakaki, UAS Nexus: Drone industrial base, NDAA, Blue UAS

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#81 Brian Streem, Vermeer: An American founder’s move to Ukraine to build drone tech

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#80 Joerg Dittrich, JARUS & DLR: Drones, risk, and SORA 3.0

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#79 Bob Poole, Reason Foundation: The pros and cons of privatizing airports

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#78 Montie Brewer: Interview with former Air Canada CEO

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#77 Charlton Evans, End State Solutions: Drone boxes, FAA waivers and exemptions, Part 108

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#76 General James Poss: Affordable Mass and Counter-UAS

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#75 Kevin Noertker, Ampaire: Scaling electric aviation with hybrid-electric flight

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#74 Rob Britton: "Commercial Aviation and AAM: Prudent Optimism"

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#73 Jeff Luckett, UPS Flight Forward: An inside perspective on early adoption of UAS and AAM in cargo

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#72 Srdjan Kovacevic, Orqa: The evolution of drones, vertical integration, and competing with DJI

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#71 Libby Bahat, Israeli Civil Aviation Authority: Lessons learned from the Israeli National Drone Initiative

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#70 Bobby Healy, Manna: Unveiling the unit economics behind profitable drone delivery

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#69 David Stepanek, Bristow: A philosophical guide for early AAM operations

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#68 Don Berchoff, TruWeather: Weather imposes uncertainty and uncertainty costs money

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#67 Niels Kalshoven, Port of Rotterdam: Drone Port Operations

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#66 Dan Magy: From Citadel to Firestorm, a journey through drone and counter-drone technology

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#65 Andrew Coleman: Unpacking the Value of Data in Aviation

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#64 Lorne Cass: Aviation Operations; Today's Lessons for Tomorrow's Operators

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#63 Uma Subramanian, Surya Ventures: Commercial air travel innovation under attack

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#62 Andrew Hately, Eurocontrol: U-Space, UTM, and the integrated airspace

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#61 Eric Leopold, Threedot (ex-IATA): Air transport in the digital age

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#60 Eric Watson, Zipline: Drone delivery and the Zipline experience

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#59 John Langford, Electra.aero: Bringing eSTOL to Market

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