Trail Runner Nation

Coaching advice almost always starts with, “It depends.” In this special Ask the Coaches episode, Don and Scott take away that safety net by forcing Ian Sharman, Hal Koerner, and Ellie Greenwood to make definitive choices on some of trail running’s biggest debates. Is it better to be undertrained or overtrained? Should you trust data or your instincts? Would you add mileage or strength training? Can motivation be taught? Along the way, the coaches reveal not only their philosophies, but also the surprising amount of agreement behind them. Beneath the conversation emerges a consistent message: sustainable training, learning to listen to your body, and developing good judgment matter far more than chasing perfect numbers. It’s entertaining, occasionally chaotic, and full of coaching wisdom every trail runner can apply. LINKS - Sharman Ultra Coaching The Art of Ultrarunning book, by Ian Hal Koerners's Field Guide to Ultrarunning Hal's races: Siskiyou Out Back & Lithia Loop - Rogue Valley Runners Store Knee Knacker 30-mile Forerunners North Shore store that Ellie works part time EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail.  OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out -  for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Instant Hydration: Timestamps 00:00 | The Rules: No “It Depends” The coaches are forced to choose between two coaching philosophies before explaining their reasoning. 04:00 | Training Smarter vs. Training Harder Should runners prioritize perfect execution or simply never miss a workout? The coaches debate consistency, intensity, and long-term improvement. 21:00 | Undertrained or Overtrained? The panel discusses why arriving healthy, rested, and mentally excited may be more valuable than squeezing in one more week of training. 29:00 | Mileage or Strength Training? With limited training time, the coaches debate whether extra running or extra strength work produces the biggest return. 44:00 | Trust the Data or Trust Yourself? Heart rate, recovery scores, wearables, and intuition collide as the coaches explain why learning effort by feel remains one of the most valuable skills in ultrarunning. 56:00 | What Should You Do When You Want to Quit? The coaches tackle one of the hardest race-day scenarios: stop, regroup, and reassess, or keep moving forward no matter how slowly. 1:11:00 | Final Thoughts (and One Last “It Depends”) The episode wraps with laughs, reflections, and one final reminder that while coaching often depends on context, the principles of smart, sustainable training remain remarkably consistent. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sophie Grant had reached a point where even the hardest ultramarathons no longer carried the uncertainty they once did, and after years of infertility and IVF, she realized she had also lost some of her joy in running and trust in her own body. The Via Alpina changed that, taking her roughly 2,000 kilometers across the Alps and forcing her to approach each day without knowing exactly what the next one would bring. She and photographer Zoe Salt talk about the physical and logistical realities of nearly a month on the trail, including relentless fueling, strength training, bad patches, storms, forest fires, and the value of an exceptional crew. Sophie shares practical lessons endurance athletes can use immediately, including her belief that “a bad moment does not make a bad day,” the importance of eating before assuming something has gone seriously wrong, and learning to distinguish between not wanting to continue and truly being unable to continue. The deeper story is about something bigger than an FKT: Sophie describes how this adventure helped her appreciate what her body could do after spending years focused on something it couldn't. By the end, her message is wonderfully simple: try something new, LINKS: Sophie Grant's coaching Zoe Salt photography EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail.  OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out -  for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 – The Via Alpina and an Enormous New Challenge Sophie and Zoe introduce the roughly 2,000-kilometer route across eight Alpine countries and explain why attempting it was so different from Sophie's previous racing. 05:14 – Why Sophie Needed Something Different After years of racing at a high level, Sophie realized she was operating on autopilot and needed a challenge that could bring uncertainty, learning, and joy back into running. 12:12 – Infertility, Running and Her Relationship With Her Body Sophie opens up about infertility, IVF, and how the experience left her angry and disconnected from her body before the Via Alpina helped change that relationship. 20:00 – What 29 Days Really Looked Like Zoe describes watching Sophie get up and do the work day after day, while Sophie shares the low moments, frustration, pain, and perspective that kept her moving. 25:12 – How Do You Fuel for a Month? Sophie breaks down the surprisingly broad menu that powered the effort and explains why years of practicing 80 to 90 grams of carbohydrate per hour made eating almost automatic. 28:41 – “A Bad Moment Does Not Make a Bad Day” Sophie explains how food, music, distraction, and experience help her escape negative headspaces, plus the crucial difference between can't continue and simply don't want to. 41:51 – When the Plan Falls Apart Storms, vehicle problems and forest fires force the team to adapt, leading to a broader conversation about trusting your support system and learning to build a different life when the original plan changes. 48:20 – Not Every Problem Needs to Be Fixed Sophie explains one of the most meaningful lessons from her infertility experience: sometimes people don't need solutions, they simply need someone willing to sit with them and acknowledge how hard things are. 53:15 – The Courage to Try Something That Scares You Sophie closes with advice for anyone who feels stuck: try something new, choose something that scares you, and focus on having the courage to begin rather than obsessing over the outcome. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We often think of ultrarunning as an individual pursuit, but Eric Strand’s Western States story proves that the strongest performances are rarely solo efforts. After cracking a rib, falling multiple times, and watching his sub-30-hour goal slip away, Eric reached mile 78 convinced he wouldn’t make it. His pacers refused to believe that story, helping him stop negotiating with himself, stay focused on the mile he was in, and keep moving forward one step at a time. Along the way, the conversation explores what separates a great pacer from an average one, how trust and preparation begin long before race day, and why different moments require different kinds of encouragement. This episode is a reminder that sometimes the greatest gift another runner can give you is believing in you until you’re able to believe in yourself again. LINKS Video of Eric Finishing WS100 Eric's Race Report EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail.  OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. Instant Hydration Timestamps 00:00 | When Belief Runs Out Eric introduces the moment at mile 78 when he thought his Western States dream was slipping away. 08:00 | Borrowing Someone Else’s Confidence Eric explains how his pacer shifted his mindset from making excuses to focusing on the mile directly ahead. 15:30 | What Makes a Great Pacer The conversation explores communication, trust, and why every runner needs something different during difficult moments. 30:00 | Managing Pain Without Giving Up Eric shares how his pacers helped him push through cracked ribs, multiple falls, and overwhelming fatigue without losing sight of the finish. 39:00 | Lessons for Every Pacer Practical advice on pacing strategy, communication, course knowledge, and common mistakes that can make or break a race. 48:00 | A Son’s Push to the Finish Eric reflects on the emotional role reversal of having his son pace him over the final miles and what that experience meant. 55:00 | Why No One Finishes Alone The discussion closes with a broader lesson about crew, volunteers, family, and the trail running community that makes extraordinary accomplishments possible. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most runners focus on pace, heart rate, and fueling, but heat may be the hidden factor that determines whether a great race turns into a survival march. In this conversation, CORE endurance performance lead Aline Barre explains how the body regulates temperature, why overheating steals blood away from your muscles and gut, and how even well-trained athletes can unravel when heat gets ahead of them. She shares simple, research-backed ways to become heat adapted using overdressed runs, saunas, hot baths, and smart scheduling, while also explaining why hydration, electrolytes, and cooling strategies matter just as much. The discussion also explores CORE’s non-invasive temperature sensor, how monitoring heat strain can help runners avoid crossing the point of no return, and why “cooler is faster” isn’t just a catchy phrase, it’s physiology. This episode offers practical tools that can make running in the heat feel far more manageable. EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail.  OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out -  for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Instant Hydration: Timestamps 00:00 | Why Heat Matters More Than You Think Scott and Don introduce the episode and explain why heat may be one of endurance sports’ biggest overlooked performance limiters. 07:00 | How to Become Heat Adapted Aline explains how overdressed runs, saunas, and hot baths help your body adapt in as little as 10 to 14 sessions. 16:30 | Measuring Core Temperature The conversation explores why core temperature matters, how it differs from skin temperature, and how runners can monitor heat strain in real time. 22:00 | Cooling Strategies That Actually Work Ice bandanas, pre-cooling, slushies, wet clothing, and aid station tactics that help keep performance from falling apart. 31:30 | Common Heat Training Mistakes Why hydration, electrolytes, recovery, and smart scheduling matter just as much as simply running in hot weather. 38:00 | Heat Training Beyond Hot Weather Can heat adaptation improve altitude performance? Aline shares surprising research and explains how long heat adaptations last. 44:30 | Practical Tips for Your Next Hot Race The episode wraps up with actionable advice on clothing, cooling methods, and how to avoid crossing the overheating threshold on race day. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What would you think if you arrived at a trailhead and saw runners strapping full-size ironing boards to their backs? That’s exactly how Don and Scott discovered Iron X, a 13-mile extreme ironing race through the trails of Auburn, California. Race creator Ben Mitchell and participant Brian Goldman explain the surprisingly real world of extreme ironing, the rules of carrying an ironing board through the wilderness, and the seven checkpoints where competitors must stop and iron their shirts in places ranging from the American River to an abandoned car. But beneath the absurdity is something that feels increasingly important in trail running: grassroots events built around community, creativity, and simply having a good time. The conversation also explores the challenges facing small race directors, the value of low-key “fat ass” events, and Brian’s work helping financially struggling runners participate in the sport. It’s a reminder that some of the best trail running experiences may have nothing to do with qualifying points, lotteries, or prestigious finish lines, and everything to do with showing up, finding your people, and not taking yourself too seriously. LINKS IroningMan - the official Extreme Ironing Site Sign Up for next year's Iron X - Mendocino Running Festival Mile Madness Endurance Run Skybreaker Racing - Run Free Foundation - a non-profit to help runners overcome the financial barriers of running EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail.  OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together Timestamps 00:00 | Ironing Boards at the Trailhead Don and Scott explain how a normal weekend trail run turned into the discovery of a 13-mile race involving runners carrying full-size ironing boards. 03:10 | How Iron X Was Born Race creator Ben Mitchell explains how the strange sport of extreme ironing inspired him to create his own trail-running version in Auburn. 08:11 | Seven Stops and a Lot of Ironing Ben breaks down the course and its required ironing locations, including standing knee-deep in the American River and ironing on an abandoned car. 13:12 | The Surprisingly Real World of Extreme Ironing The group explores the history, rules, and wonderfully strange culture behind taking ironing boards into places they were never designed to go. 23:07 | Why Trail Running Needs More Weird Races The conversation shifts from ironing to something bigger: the value of fun, inexpensive grassroots events in an increasingly commercialized sport. 30:52 | The Heart of Grassroots Trail Running Ben and Brian discuss fat ass races, the challenges of putting on small events, and why these gatherings can represent trail running at its purest. 36:28 | Making Trail Running More Accessible Brian shares the mission behind the Run Free Foundation and his efforts to help runners who can’t afford the increasingly high costs of gear, races, and travel. 45:01 | Stop Taking Yourself So Seriously The episode closes with the biggest lesson from Iron X: trail running can help us discover ourselves, build community, and occasionally carry an ironing board through the woods just because it’s fun. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Runners have more data, technology, nutrition products, and training advice than ever, so why does Dr. Phil Maffetonebelieve many of us are actually getting slower and less healthy? In this wide-ranging conversation, Phil challenges the resurgence of high-carbohydrate fueling, explains why building a strong aerobic system still matters, and shares how he used heart-rate training decades before it became mainstream. He breaks down the Maffetone Method, why runners should measure training by time rather than miles, and how slowing down today can ultimately help you run faster tomorrow. The conversation also explores the difference between collecting data and actually using it intelligently, along with Phil’s belief that diet and metabolic health can quietly undermine even the best training plan. And in classic Phil fashion, the discussion eventually wanders into music, creativity, awareness, and why becoming a better runner may require developing more of yourself than just your legs. LINKS TO CHECK OUT More about Maffetone Method and the Two-Week Test Maffetone Music - where most of the updated research is published and, of course, his music EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail.  OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out -  for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 02:12 | What Runners Are Still Getting Wrong Phil argues that despite decades of new research and technology, runners continue to repeat many of the same mistakes around training and nutrition. 03:18 | The Return of High-Carb Fueling The conversation tackles the trend toward extremely high carbohydrate intake during endurance events and Phil’s strong disagreement with the direction it’s taking. 09:08 | The Heart-Rate Experiment That Changed Everything Phil tells the story of putting an early heart-rate monitor on Mark Allen and asking one of the world’s best triathletes to dramatically slow down in order to eventually get faster. 14:44 | Are We Using All This Data Wrong? With runners surrounded by watches and metrics, Phil explains why collecting numbers is very different from using them intelligently. 18:32 | How the Maffetone Method Actually Works Phil explains aerobic heart-rate training, why runners shouldn’t necessarily train together at the same pace, and why he prefers measuring training by time instead of mileage. 27:28 | Are Today’s Runners Actually Healthier? Despite record-breaking performances at the elite level, Phil argues that the broader running population is getting slower and points to metabolic health and excess body fat as major concerns. 46:16 | Want to Be a Better Runner? Do More Things The conversation expands beyond training as Phil explains how music, creativity, awareness, and a more varied life can contribute to becoming a better athlete and a more complete human. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Trail running has grown from a small community of passionate runners into a global sport, bringing bigger races, better gear, international competition, and more opportunities than ever before. Gaël Dutigny shares a firsthand account of witnessing UTMB from its very first edition in 2003 and reflects on how its evolution mirrors the growth of trail running itself. The conversation explores both sides of that growth, from crowded lotteries and commercialization to innovations in equipment, race organization, and worldwide access to incredible events. Along the way, Gaël, Don, and Scott discuss what makes iconic races so special, why local races still matter, and how runners can stay connected to the welcoming culture that first drew so many to the trails. It's a thoughtful discussion about preserving the soul of trail running while embracing the sport's exciting future. Links: Gaël Dutigny's Substack UltraRunning Magazine EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. RunMotion Coach: Whether you're training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 | How UTMB Began Gaël shares what it was like covering the very first UTMB in 2003 and why the race immediately felt different from anything else in endurance sports. 11:00 | From Local Race to Global Icon How UTMB grew from an adventurous mountain race into one of the biggest brands in trail running. 26:00 | Has Success Made Trail Running Harder to Access? The discussion turns to lotteries, qualifiers, and whether iconic races have become too difficult for everyday runners to experience. 37:00 | The Benefits of Growth Why commercialization has also brought lighter gear, better shoes, safer races, and more opportunities for runners around the world. 46:00 | You Don't Need UTMB to Belong A reminder that unforgettable trail running experiences can still be found at local races and on your favorite hometown trails. 1:00:00 | Protecting the Spirit of Trail Running Gaël, Don, and Scott discuss how runners can embrace the sport's growth without losing the welcoming community that makes trail running unique. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Caffeine is one of the most researched performance enhancers in endurance sports, yet most runners know surprisingly little about how to use it effectively. In this conversation, Stone Creek Coffee founders Eric Resch and Amy Balestrieri separate the science from the myths, discussing when caffeine actually helps performance, why timing matters more than quantity, and how too much can hurt your sleep and recovery. They also explore why that morning cup of coffee is about far more than caffeine, touching on the rituals, psychology, and community that make coffee such an important part of endurance culture. Along the way, you'll learn about caffeine tolerance, race-day strategies, common misconceptions like dehydration, and even what goes into producing a truly great cup of coffee. You'll come away with a better understanding of how to make caffeine work for you and a new appreciation for the cup of coffee that starts so many great adventures. EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes means more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. RunMotion Coach: Whether you're training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 | Why Caffeine Matters to Endurance Athletes The discussion begins with why caffeine has become such a staple of trail running and what science actually says about its performance benefits. 07:00 | Coffee Is More Than Just Caffeine Eric and Amy explain why your morning coffee ritual is as much psychological as it is physiological. 14:00 | How to Use Caffeine for Training and Racing Practical advice on timing, dosage, long runs, and race-day strategies to get the most from caffeine. 20:30 | Busting Common Coffee Myths The group tackles questions about dehydration, dark vs. light roast, caffeine levels, and energy drinks. 29:00 | From Coffee Farm to Your Mug A behind-the-scenes look at how specialty coffee is grown, sourced, roasted, and why quality matters. 38:30 | Finding the Right Coffee Routine The conversation shifts back to runners, covering caffeine tolerance, sleep, recovery, and building a routine that works for your body. 55:00 | Introducing The Long Run Blend Eric and Amy share the story behind Stone Creek Coffee's custom Trail Runner Nation blend and why it was designed specifically for endurance athletes. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Marc Hopkins, author of Hard Things, set out to write a book about running the Bigfoot 200, but what emerged was something much deeper. In this conversation, he shares how endurance running became the lens through which he uncovered old stories about self-worth, fear, identity, and the belief that one more finish line would finally make him enough. Together, we explore why runners chase hard things, the difference between simply enduring life and living with purpose, and how the trail can expose what's really driving us. Marc also opens up about surviving a 99% heart blockage, learning when grit is a strength and when it's time to stop, and why vulnerability may be the toughest skill endurance athletes ever develop. If you've ever wondered why you run, or found yourself learning more about your life than your splits during a long run, this conversation will stay with you long after the episode ends. EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes means more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There™ with Altra. Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. RunMotion Coach: Whether you're training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 | Why We Chase Hard Things Marc explains how a book about the Bigfoot 200 became an honest look at identity, purpose, and the reasons we pursue difficult goals. 08:00 | Enduring vs. Endurance The conversation explores the difference between simply surviving life and intentionally moving toward something meaningful. 18:30 | The Finish Line Won't Make You Whole Marc shares how he believed one more race would finally prove his worth, and why that mindset eventually fell apart. 30:30 | Lessons From a 99% Heart Blockage A life-threatening diagnosis forced Marc to rethink strength, vulnerability, and what it really means to listen to your body. 43:30 | The Pebble in Your Shoe A simple refrigerator magnet from Marc's childhood became one of the biggest life lessons in the entire book. 49:00 | Why the Next Finish Line Isn't the Answer The hosts discuss identity, self-worth, and why chasing bigger races can never solve what's happening inside. 53:30 | When Can You Finally Call Yourself a Runner? Marc explains why comparison steals joy and why every runner, regardless of pace or body type, belongs on the trail. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What if getting older doesn't mean doing less, but doing it better? In this installment of the Aging as an Athlete series, legendary ultrarunner Krissy Moehl welcomes longtime climber and Patagonia ambassador Kate Rutherford for a conversation about longevity, purpose, and evolving with age. Kate shares how decades of climbing taught her that technical skill, efficiency, and joy can eventually outweigh youthful strength and endurance. The discussion explores everything from body awareness and recovery to nutrition, community, and why learning to focus on what truly matters becomes one of the greatest athletic advantages. Whether you're a runner, climber, or simply hoping to stay active for life, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on growing older without giving up adventure. Kate is a long time professional climber, artist, advocate for wilderness, eater of leafy organic greens, president of Farm To Crag, and product line manager at Patagonia. Her passion for climbing has taken her all over the world including first ascents on Fitz Roy in Patagonia, Kenya, Iran, and Venezuela, a free ascent of El Capitan's Free Rider. She has had the opportunity to work with some amazing organizations, including Patagonia, La Sportiva, Edelrid, Black Diamond, Clif Bar, the Access Fund, and the American Alpine club. The combination of climbing, a biology degree from the Colorado College, rural homesteading in Alaska, subsistence hunting and fishing, carrots from Mom's garden, and watching organic regenerative agriculture's ability to combat climate change, has led me to co-found Farm to Crag. It is the perfect blend of climbing, stories, farms, maps, organic greens, environmental activism, and dinner parties. Check out Farm to Crag Episode Sponsor: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes means more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN Stay Out There™ with Altra. Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with The Long Run, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code LONGRUN20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. TimeStamps 00:00 | Growing Older Without Growing Smaller Krissy introduces climber Kate Rutherford and explores how aging can expand our relationship with movement instead of limiting it. 09:00 | Community, Trust, and Doing Hard Things Kate explains the unique culture of climbing and why shared challenges create lifelong bonds. 17:00 | Trading Strength for Skill The conversation explores how technical ability, efficiency, and body awareness become greater assets than raw physical power. 28:00 | The Power of Staying Present From climbing walls to mountain trails, focusing on the next move instead of the finish line changes everything. 39:00 | Why Power Training Matters More With Age Kate shares how short, intentional strength work has helped her continue pursuing big mountain objectives. 48:00 | Fueling for a Lifetime Outdoors Nutrition, recovery, and whole foods become central themes as the discussion shifts toward long-term health and performance. 56:00 | Building a Legacy Beyond Sport The episode closes with Farm to Crag, environmental stewardship, and the idea that the greatest adventures are those that strengthen both people and places. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Western States is more than a 100-mile race. For many ultrarunners, it's the unofficial holiday that defines the season. In this annual Trail Runner Nation tradition, Andy Jones-Wilkins returns to break down the 2026 Western States field, explain the stories behind the biggest contenders, and help everyday runners understand who to watch when race day arrives. Along the way, the conversation explores the race's unique culture, its history, the lottery system, the legendary Golden Hour finish, and why Western States continues to hold a special place in trail running despite the sport's rapid evolution. If you're following the race from home or standing somewhere along the course, this episode provides the context that transforms names on a start list into stories worth following. By the end, you'll be just as excited for Statesmas as AJW is. Episode Sponsor: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes means more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN Stay Out There™ with Altra. TimeStamps: 00:00 | Welcome to Statesmas AJW explains why Western States has become trail running's biggest annual celebration and why the excitement starts weeks before race day. 05:00 | What Makes Western States So Special? The discussion explores the history, atmosphere, traditions, and unique energy that make this race unlike any other. 13:00 | Course Conditions and What to Expect in 2026 With virtually no snowpack and a dry trail, the hosts discuss how this year's conditions could shape the race. 19:00 | Breaking Down the Women's Race AJW highlights the favorites, dangerous newcomers, and rising stars who could battle for the podium. 42:00 | The Men's Race Preview From Jim Walmsley and Kilian Jornet to emerging contenders and dark horses, the elite field gets a thorough analysis. 56:00 | How Western States Earned Its Legendary Status The conversation dives into the lottery, qualifying system, volunteers, race traditions, and why earning a bib means so much. 1:00:00 | Final Podium Predictions AJW reveals his official picks, shares bold predictions, and offers a few runners that fans shouldn't overlook. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What separates great ultrarunners from everyone else isn't just fitness. It's how they think. In this conversation, legendary coach and runner Ian Sharman shares the philosophy behind his new book The Art of Ultrarunning, explaining why execution, adaptability, and purpose matter just as much as training miles. Through stories from his Grand Slam of Ultrarunning record, hard-earned racing mistakes, and years of coaching athletes of every level, Ian reveals how to stay motivated, pace smarter, and perform your best when everything starts falling apart. The discussion goes well beyond racing, exploring consistency, ego, resilience, and why success often comes from making better decisions instead of simply pushing harder. Despite your experience or goals, this episode offers practical lessons that can improve both your running and the way you approach challenges off the trail. Learn more about Ian at Sharman Ultra. Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Timestamps: 00:00 | Why "The Art" of Ultrarunning? Ian explains why successful racing is about combining science with execution and why ultrarunning is as much an art as it is physiology. 09:00 | Finding Your Purpose The conversation explores why every run should have intention and how a meaningful "why" helps runners push through difficult moments. 20:00 | Adapting When Goals Slip Away Ian discusses how successful runners adjust expectations during a race instead of giving up when their original goal becomes unrealistic. 39:00 | Consistency Beats Hero Workouts Why small, repeatable actions build stronger athletes than occasional epic training sessions, and how consistency shaped Ian's career. 47:00 | Training Is Practice for Decision Making Running isn't just building fitness. Every workout teaches pacing, body awareness, problem solving, and race execution. 56:00 | The Grand Slam Battle with Nick Clark Ian shares the remarkable story of chasing the Grand Slam record through four 100-mile races while battling one of his closest competitors every step of the way. 1:01:00 | Racing Yourself Instead of Your Competition One of the episode's biggest lessons: take care of your own race first, then compete when the time is right. Execution nearly always beats emotion. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Tim Tollefson returns to Trail Runner Nation for a wide-ranging conversation about what makes trail running special and what happens as the sport continues to grow. Using a "Wheel of Trail Running" format, the discussion lands on two big topics: cultivating the next generation of trail stewards and the ongoing professionalization of trail running. Tim shares how his work with Runners for Public Lands and Mammoth Trail Fest has changed the way he views trails, volunteerism, and the responsibility runners have to give back to the places they love. The conversation explores everything from carrying a small saw on training runs to the challenges and opportunities created by big sponsors, larger race organizations, and growing prize purses. Throughout the episode, Tim makes a compelling case that trail running's future depends on balancing growth with the community values that built the sport. It's an honest look at how runners can help preserve trail culture while welcoming more people into it. Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Timestamps 00:00 | Welcome Back, Tim Tollefson. Tim shares updates from Mammoth Lakes and explains why the Eastern Sierra continues to inspire his running and community work. 05:45 | California Carpet and Gravel Running. A conversation about trail surfaces, the rise of gravel running, and how the sport continues to evolve. 11:45 | Why Trail Stewardship Matters. Tim discusses his work with Runners for Public Lands and why every runner should consider giving back to the trails they use. 22:00 | How Runners Can Get Involved. Practical ways to participate in trail work, volunteer projects, and local stewardship efforts. 30:00 | The Professionalization of Trail Running. The group explores sponsorships, prize money, corporate investment, and how the sport has changed over the past decade. 43:00 | Building Mammoth Trail Fest. Tim shares the vision behind Mammoth Trail Fest and how community, storytelling, and stewardship shape the event. 53:00 | What Trail Running Could Look Like in 2036. A look ahead at the future of the sport and the values Tim hopes will remain at its core. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Creatine has long been boxed into the weight-room world, but this episode opens the door to a much bigger conversation for trail runners and endurance athletes. Creatine is something surprisingly simple, "right within the reach of a glass," that may help athletes become stronger, faster, healthier, and more resilient. We discuss with Dr. Dan Pardi, Chief Health Officer at Qualia Life Sciences, whether this familiar supplement can support not just performance, but long-term health and better daily function. For runners who usually think about carbs, hydration, shoes, and mileage first, creatine offers a different kind of performance question: what if strength, recovery, and durability start with something small and easy? It's a practical topic for athletes who want to keep moving well, aging well, and showing up stronger on the trail. Links Qualia Life Instagram Try Creatine out with a 15% discount HERE Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page TimeStamps 00:02 – Welcome to Trail Runner Nation Scott opens the episode by inviting listeners into the conversation and setting the tone around becoming faster, healthier, and stronger athletes. 00:21 – Why Creatine Matters for Runners Don introduces creatine as the central topic and frames it as a surprisingly accessible tool that could support performance and health. 00:36 – Setting the Energy for the Conversation The hosts land the opening with a light, upbeat exchange before the main discussion begins. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Writer and ultrarunner Gaël Dutigny joins us to talk about his Ultra Running Magazine article, "Fear Isn't a Weakness," and why fear may be one of the most misunderstood tools in endurance sports. Gaël shares how, even after finishing UTMB four times and racing in deserts, jungles, mountains, and even Iraq during wartime, fear still shows up before and during big efforts. The conversation reframes fear not as something to suppress, but as information that can sharpen decision-making, expose your true "why," and help you respect the environment you're moving through. We also talk about the thin line between fear that freezes you and fear that helps you function, especially in long mountain races where fatigue, darkness, cutoffs, hallucinations, and self-doubt all start stirring the pot. One of the most useful takeaways for trail runners is that mental preparation deserves the same attention as physical training, because knowing yourself may be just as important as knowing your pace, gear, or nutrition plan. Links: Gaël Dutigny's Substack UltraRunning Magazine "Race to the Summit" Dean Potter's documentary on Netflix Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! True Nutrition: Customized quality protein: Use Code TRNSummer and get 25% off between May 22-25 for their Memorial Day Sale! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps 00:00 | Is Fear Holding You Back or Helping You? Scott opens the conversation by asking whether fear on the trail is something to overcome or something that may actually guide us. 02:40 | Why Gaël Wrote About Fear Gaël explains how decades of running in mountains, deserts, jungles, and difficult environments shaped his view that fear is a deep part of the sport. 05:15 | Why Experience Doesn't Eliminate Fear Even after multiple UTMB finishes and other major races, Gaël shares why fear still shows up and why that may be healthy. 11:30 | Training Fear Before Race Day The discussion turns to how runners can practice facing fear in training, whether that means darkness, distance, terrain, isolation, or uncertainty. 21:20 | Fear as a Decision-Making Tool: How fear can sharpen awareness and help runners make better choices instead of simply pushing blindly forward. 27:15 | Mental Health as Performance Training Gaël makes the case that talking to a sports psychologist or therapist is not weakness, but another form of training for hard things. 44:20 | Fear, DNFs, and Knowing Your Why The group talks about how fear of failure, social pressure, and shallow motivation can unravel a race when things get hard. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

ode we are joined by Brian Morrison, author of Given to Fly: A Story of Tragedy, Triumph, and Realization at Western States 100, about one of the most unforgettable finishes in ultrarunning history. Brian takes listeners back to the 2006 Western States 100, where he was leading the race before collapsing on the Placer High School track just steps from victory, later being disqualified because he received assistance crossing the finish line. The conversation explores how Scott Jurek's belief in him helped Brian transform from a talented but relatively unproven runner into someone who truly believed he could win Western States. But the heart of the episode is not just the collapse, it is the decade that followed, as Brian wrestled with regret, obsession, identity, family, and the need to return in 2016 to finally finish the race on his own terms. For trail runners and endurance athletes, this episode is a powerful reminder that failure is not always the opposite of success, sometimes it becomes the thing that reshapes us, redirects us, and teaches us what the finish line could never have taught alone. Links YouTube video, "A Decade On" by GingerRunner Link to buy the Book Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps 00:00 – The Moment That Almost Defined Him Scott introduces Brian Morrison and sets up the unforgettable 2006 Western States finish that became the centerpiece of Brian's story. 01:48 – Scott Jurek's Belief Changes Everything Brian explains how Scott Jurek told him he could carry the torch for Seattle and win Western States, planting a belief Brian had never fully considered before. 06:34 – Training Like a Western States Contender Brian describes the intense training block with Jurek, including Mount Si repeats, hard downhill work, and the psychological shift from hoping to win to believing he could. 15:30 – Race Day: Heat, Strategy, and the Chase Brian walks through the 2006 race, from the early miles to picking up Scott Jurek at Foresthill and hunting down the leaders before the river crossing. 24:00 – The Final Miles Begin to Unravel After No Hands Bridge, Brian starts running scared, convinced Graham Cooper is closing fast, and the effort begins to push him past the edge. 28:37 – Collapse on the Track Brian reaches the Placer High School track first but blacks out, collapses repeatedly, and later learns he has been disqualified despite crossing the finish line. 38:17 – Ten Years of Haunting and the Return Brian shares how the race followed him for a decade, why he returned in 2016, and how finishing with his family finally allowed him to see the experience differently. 56:22 – Writing the Book and Finding the Realization Brian explains why he wrote Given to Fly, how the process helped him understand his deeper motivations, and why he now sees the whole experience not as redemption, but as a gift. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Megan Eckert returns to Trail Runner Nation after an extraordinary stretch in endurance racing, including a third place at Cocadona 250, setting a women's world record at Big's Backyard Ultra and becoming the first woman to run more than 600 miles in six days. She explains why backyard ultras are less about speed and more about solving the strange little puzzle of time, sleep, food, heat, pacing, and decision-making, one hour at a time. The conversation gets into what happens when the body starts swelling after days of effort, how recovery has to be tested carefully, and why a runner's "toolbox" matters more than a perfect race plan. Megan also shares how mantras, gratitude, crew support, short sleep strategies, and breaking huge goals into smaller chunks helped her keep moving when the mental fog rolled in. The big takeaway is that toughness is not always loud or dramatic. Sometimes it looks like patience, curiosity, a good crew, and the willingness to step back into the corral one more time. Links: SharmanUltra Coaching - Megan Previous Episode with Megan: EP 685: Running in Circles - Backyard Ultras Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps 00:00 | Megan Eckert's 600-Mile Breakthrough Scott introduces Megan's recent accomplishments, including her Big's Backyard Ultra world record and becoming the first woman to run more than 600 miles in six days. 02:10 | What Happens to the Body After 600 Miles Megan describes the swelling, inflammation, and strange physical effects that showed up late in the six-day race. 03:10 | Recovery Is Not a Formula She explains how recovery depends on the race, the body's feedback, heart rate, feet, legs, and the willingness to test movement and back off when needed. 04:14 | How Backyard Ultras Actually Work Megan breaks down the format: 4.17 miles every hour, starting again and again until only one runner remains. 06:16 | The Race She's Most Proud Of Megan shares why Run Rabbit Run stands out, not because it was perfect, but because she had to work through an off day almost from the beginning. 14:16 | The Tools That Keep You Moving The conversation shifts to mantras, knowing your "why," gratitude, and the mental tools runners build through hard training and bad races. 19:34 | Solving the Puzzle of Time Megan explains why backyard racing fascinates her: it is not about being fastest, but about balancing pace, rest, calories, sleep, and strategy. 25:46 | Training Yourself to Sleep Fast She talks about using an eye mask, lowering heart rate before lying down, and noise-canceling headphones to help the body shut down quickly during long races. 27:55 | Why Women Are Thriving in Long Events Megan reflects on the growing participation of women in backyard and multi-day racing and why the format creates a welcoming space for many types of runners. 31:15 | Why Crew Becomes Critical Megan explains how sleep deprivation affects decision-making and why crew support becomes essential in the later stages of multi-day races. 35:16 | The Dark Places in a Six-Day Race She describes the strange feeling of being between two shores, unable to see where you started or where you are going, and how her crew helped her regain perspective. 43:30 | Coaching for Backyard Ultras vs. 50Ks Megan explains how training shifts for backyard races, with more emphasis on time on feet, double days, and learning to run when you do not feel like running. 47:00 | Sleep Deprivation and Trial-and-Error The group discusses whether sleep deprivation can really be trained, and Megan explains why her best sleep strategy is built around longer 45- to 90-minute cycles. 52:00 | What's Next for Megan Megan talks about taking on Cocodona 250 and applying what she has learned from looped and timed events to a very different kind of trail challenge. 55:13 | Who Should Try a Backyard Ultra? Megan closes with a simple message: the best attribute is curiosity, because you never know what you are capable of until you show up. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Returning guest, coach Colleen Miracle, joins us to talk about something many trail runners know they should care about but often ignore: sun protection. The conversation is based on Colleen's UltraSignup article "Why Ultrarunners Face a Higher Risk of Skin Cancer and Decreased Running Performance." Colleen shares her own experience with stage-one skin cancer on her lip, which began as what looked like a small freckle but turned out to be a wound that would not heal. The episode gets practical fast, covering SPF 30, UPF clothing, sun hoodies, lip sunscreen, reapplication during races, altitude exposure, cloudy-day risk, and why a "base tan" is not real protection. For endurance athletes, the biggest takeaway is that sun damage is not just a long-term health issue; during long efforts, your body may divert energy toward cooling and repairing damaged skin instead of helping you keep moving. It is a useful, slightly uncomfortable reminder that protecting your skin may be as important to longevity in the sport as shoes, fueling, or strength work. Resources & Links: Check out Boundless Coaching Sunbeam Sunscreen Super Goop Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps 00:00 – The Sun as a Performance Threat Scott introduces the idea that UV exposure may affect not only skin cancer risk and aging, but also long-term running performance. 02:45 – Colleen's Skin Cancer Wake-Up Call Colleen shares how her own stage-one skin cancer diagnosis on her lip led her to interview her dermatologist and write about sun risk for ultrarunners. 05:30 – How Sun Damage Can Drain Your Body The group discusses how damaged skin may force the body to spend energy on cooling and repair when runners need that energy for movement, fueling, and staying strong. 07:15 – SPF, UPF, and What Actually Works Colleen explains the practical options runners can use, including SPF 30 or higher sunscreen, UPF clothing, sun hoodies, arm sleeves, and SPF lip protection. 14:25 – Why Sun Hoodies Are Showing Up More in Ultras The conversation turns to lightweight sun hoodies, why runners in hot and exposed environments use them, and why you should practice with them before race day. 17:50 – The Base Tan Myth and Other Bad Ideas Colleen pushes back on the idea that a base tan protects runners and explains why tanning still means skin damage. 31:45 – Timing, Altitude, Clouds, and Race-Day Habits They cover how early morning runs reduce exposure, why altitude increases risk, why cloudy days still matter, and how runners can build sunscreen reapplication into race routines. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Audio Magazine episode! Long-time friend, Warren Pole joins us to trade ideas, stories, and thought-provoking topics from the world of endurance sports. We talk about everything from whether races should ban in-race filming to the surprising ways ultrarunning might temporarily damage red blood cells and what that means for recovery. Warren brings a sharp perspective on long-term health, framing running as an investment that compounds over time, especially when paired with better nutrition. The conversation also explores how beginners can cut through noise and focus on simple fundamentals like cadence and effort, while questioning whether trends like "gravel running" are innovation or just clever marketing. Along the way, we highlight how trail running uniquely benefits mental health, reinforcing why time on the trails feels different than pounding pavement. Check out 33 Fuel for amazing and healthy products that will help you live healthier. If you live in the USA, you can buy their Ultimate Daily Greens via Amazon HERE. Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps 00:00 – Reunion & Format Setup Scott and Don welcome Warren back and explain the fast-paced "audio magazine" format. 11:00 – Should Races Ban Content Creation? Debate on whether filming during races helps grow the sport or distracts from it. 24:00 – What Running Really Does to Your Body Discussion of research on red blood cell damage and what it means for performance and recovery. 30:00 – Nutrition, Recovery, and Long-Term Health Warren explains why whole-food fueling may improve recovery and long-term outcomes. 39:00 – Learning to Run: What Actually Matters Simple, foundational advice for new runners like cadence, effort, and consistency. 50:00 – Trail Running and Mental Health Why running in nature has a stronger effect on mood, stress, and brain function. 54:00 – "Gravel Running" and the Future of the Sport Exploring whether new categories are helpful or just clever marketing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we sit down with ultrarunning legend Hal Koerner and Ian Sharman to go beyond the race results and into the stories hidden between the aid stations. Hal reflects on the gritty era of ultrarunning when gear was simpler, races were rougher, and success often came down to who could stay calm while everything else unraveled. The conversation explores their approach to downhill running, how they learned to descend with confidence, and why many runners sabotage themselves by braking too much and overthinking every step. Hal also shares memorable moments from decades in the sport, including hallucinations, race-day mistakes, lessons from other legends, and the strange, beautiful chaos that unfolds after enough miles in the mountains. Along the way, we discuss how the sport has changed, from shoes and nutrition to the growing popularity of ultrarunning, while Hal remains the same smiling, endlessly curious runner with the grin that somehow survives even mile 90. By the end, the episode feels less like an interview and more like sitting beside a campfire with one of the sport's great storytellers while the mountains glow quietly in the background. Check out "Unbreakable" film SharmanUltra.com coaching Hal Koerner's Field Guide to Ultrarunning Preorder Ian's book, "The Art of Ultrarunning: Tried & Tested Strategies for Long-Distance. Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps 06:00 – What Ultrarunning Used to Be Like Hal reflects on the early days of the sport, when aid stations were simpler, shoes were sketchier, and ultrarunners seemed stitched together from duct tape, stubbornness, and peanut butter sandwiches. 14:00 – The Downhill Running Advantage Hal explains why his ability to descend gave him an edge, how he learned to trust gravity, and why most runners unknowingly fight the trail on every downhill. 27:00 – Hallucinations, Mistakes & The Weird Stuff That Happens After 80 Miles The conversation drifts into race stories, strange moments, and the surreal carnival that begins when exhaustion starts repainting reality with a very crooked brush. 40:00 – How the Sport Has Changed The evolution of ultrarunning, from carbon shoes and nutrition science to the explosion of races, gear, and attention. 53:00 – The Lessons That Last Hal shares the wisdom he has gathered after decades in the mountains: stay adaptable, keep your sense of humor, and never lose the grin, even when the trail is trying very hard to take it from you. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this follow-up conversation with Dr. Tonya Olson, we shift from fixing foot problems to preventing them by building stronger, more resilient feet before race day disaster strikes. Tonya explains that the biggest mistake runners make is not paying attention to their feet until something hurts, even though their feet have been quietly sending signals for months, like tiny grumpy trail prophets. The discussion explores how calluses, hot spots, toenails, and skin changes can reveal weaknesses in shoe choice, mobility, gait, and training habits. Tonya also unveils the surprising connection between foot problems and bigger biomechanical issues, explaining how limitations in the ankle, big toe, hips, and glutes can ripple down the kinetic chain like one bad domino tipping into another. We talk about simple weekly routines, mobility work, proprioception, and why "good enough" maintenance now can prevent a full-scale foot mutiny later. By the end, the episode makes a compelling case that resilient feet are not built in race week, but one small habit at a time. Resources & Links: Fixing Your Feet Seventh Edition by Dr. John Vonhof & Dr. Tonya Olson Footcare- YouTube Channel Footcare Products Tonya Recommends Dr. Tanya Olson's website Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page Timestamps: 00:00 – Why We Ignore Our Feet Until It's Too Late Tonya explains why runners obsess over nutrition, pacing, and gear, yet somehow treat their feet like forgotten basement tenants until race day. 05:00 – Calluses, Skin, and What Your Feet Are Telling You How calluses, maceration, hot spots, and toenail changes can reveal problems with shoe fit, movement, and foot mechanics. 14:00 – The Simple Weekly Foot Routine Every Runner Needs Tonya lays out a practical, low-maintenance routine: inspect your feet after long runs, trim and file nails, moisturize, and look for warning signs before they become race-ending monsters. 20:00 – Why Foot Problems Start Higher Up the Chain A fascinating look at how mobility limitations in the ankle, big toe, hips, and glutes can lead to blisters, pain, and poor running mechanics. Your foot may be the smoke, but the fire could be somewhere upstream. 33:00 – Wobble Boards, Mobility, and Training Smarter The group discusses proprioception, ankle sprains, balance training, and which exercises actually transfer to better trail running. 48:00 – The Long Game: Keeping Your Feet Healthy for Decades Tonya explains why maintaining mobility and strength over time is the key to avoiding the stiff, cranky, "why does everything hurt now?" runner future Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What are some of the real costs of running an ultra? In this episode, ultra runner and coach Colleen Miracle talks about this, and it turns out the race entry is just the first pebble in the avalanche. We discuss the hidden expenses that pile up around an A-race: travel, nutrition, coaching, shoes, gear, hotels, rental cars, and the tiny financial gremlins that quietly multiply in the dark corners of race prep. Colleen shares that one of her hundred-mile races carried a $4,500 receipt, but she emphasizes that ultras can also be done on a shoestring with borrowed gear, local races, and simple nutrition. We wrestle with whether modern technology and gear have improved the sport or turned it into a glittering outdoor equipment bazaar with carbon-plated everything and hydration packs that resemble small spacecraft. Along the way, we celebrate community-driven "fat ass" races, the value of supporting race directors and small local events, and the idea that the memories, friendships, and growth from an ultra often outlast whatever else you could have bought with the money. In the end, the episode asks a bigger question: Is running expensive, or is it one of the best investments we make in ourselves? Colleen's article in Ultrarunning Magazine Check out Boundless Coaching Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page TIme Stamps 00:00 – The Real Cost of an A-Race Scott and Don introduce the idea that race fees are only the tip of the iceberg floating through your checking account like a frozen credit card statement. Travel, gear, coaching, food, and training all add up fast. 04:00 – Colleen's $4,500 Race Receipt Colleen explains how she calculated the true cost of one of her hundred milers, while also making the case that ultras can be done far more cheaply depending on your choices. 08:00 – Do You Really Need Expensive Gear? The conversation turns to GPS watches, hydration packs, carbon shoes, sunscreen, and whether trail running has become an arms race made of nylon, foam, and marketing copy. 18:00 – Why Race Fees Keep Rising Scott, Don, and Colleen discuss what race directors are actually paying for: permits, insurance, aid stations, safety, volunteers, swag, and the complicated circus tent behind every starting line. 23:30 – Fat Ass Races, Community & "Fat Heart" Running A joyful detour into old-school, low-cost grassroots races where the start line might be a stop sign and the bib comes from someone's home printer. Colleen proposes a better name: "Fat Heart Race." 27:00 – If You Could Go Back, Would You? The group debates whether they would trade today's expensive high-tech gear for the simpler, cheaper days of Timex watches, syrup bottles, and Snickers bars. 39:00 – Is It Worth the Money? The closing reflection: maybe the finish line medal isn't what you're really paying for. Maybe you're buying purpose, discipline, memories, friendships, and the version of yourself that only appears after a few predawn training runs and a questionable amount of squirrel's nut butter. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What if your best performance isn't behind you… it's just different now? In this Aging as an Athlete episode, Krissy Moehl joins again as co-host in a discussion with Bryce Thatcher. Bryce Thatcher is a trail-running pioneer and founder of UltrAspire, who has spent over 40 years innovating hydration gear while living and embodying a lifelong commitment to mountain running and human-powered adventure. We explore what it really takes to stay connected to trail running over decades. Bryce shares how a deep love of the outdoors and the human-powered movement form the foundation for long-term engagement in the sport. The conversation moves into how motivation evolves from personal performance to purpose, service, and community, while also addressing the tension between modern convenience and the sport's rugged roots. We reflect on gear innovation, race culture changes, and the importance of maintaining responsibility, resilience, and self-reliance on the trail. Bryce offers powerful insights on longevity, consistency, and adapting expectations as we age without losing joy. Ultimately, the episode is about staying grounded in your "why" while evolving with each season of life Episode Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Peluva - Footwear that let your feet be feet. Get 10% off on our DEALS page TImestamps: 02:30 – What Creates Longevity in the Sport Love of the outdoors + human-powered movement as the foundation for staying in trail running long-term. 08:00 – Origins, Gear Evolution & Finding Your "Why" Early days of the sport, how gear has changed, and the risk of losing intrinsic motivation. 13:30 – Redefining Performance: From PRs to "FK Me" Shifting from peak performance to personal best for your current stage of life. 19:00 – Has Trail Running Lost Its Edge? Discussion on race culture, aid stations, responsibility, and the tension between convenience and adventure. 27:00 – Solo vs Community: The Balance That Sustains Us Running as meditation vs shared experience, and why both matter for longevity. 34:00 – Adapting as You Age: Training, Gear & Recovery Cross-training, strength work, and evolving expectations to stay healthy and consistent. 55:00 – Advice to Your Younger (and Older) Self Consistency, simplicity, and long-term thinking as the keys to a lifetime in the sport. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we are joined again by coach Adam Kimble to explore the book, The Sweet Spot: The Pleasures of Suffering and the Search for Meaning by Paul Bloom, and discuss why endurance athletes voluntarily seek discomfort in pursuit of meaning, growth, and satisfaction. We discuss the concept of "benign masochism," highlighting how pain and pleasure are deeply intertwined in long races and hard efforts. We talk about internal versus external motivation, the power of anticipation, and how reframing challenges can shape both performance and mindset. We explore flow state, decision-making under fatigue, and why doing hard things helps us better appreciate everyday life. Ultimately, the episode reflects on how endurance sports create community, reveal character, and provide a powerful lens for understanding human behavior and purpose. Check out more about Adam and hire him as a coach HERE Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - check out how to win a free pair of the new Sanctum SL and how to get a discount Peluva - let your feet be feet! TimeStamps 00:00 – Intro & Book Overview: Introduction to The Sweet Spot and why endurance athletes are drawn to discomfort and meaning. 03:20 – First Impressions of the Book: Initial reactions and key takeaways about doing hard things and personal growth. 05:50 – What is "Benign Masochism"? Exploring voluntary suffering and why difficult challenges feel rewarding. 08:10 – Internal vs External Motivation: Do we pursue hard goals for ourselves or for recognition from others? 15:30 – Pain, Pleasure & the "Ikea Effect": Why effort increases satisfaction and meaning in achievement. 21:10 – Pain as Presence & Mental Focus: How physical discomfort brings runners into the present moment. 26:50 – The Power of Anticipation & Race Anxiety: Mental rehearsal, visualization, and preparing for both highs and lows. 33:20 – Stoicism, Problem Solving & Simple Rules: Decision-making strategies when things go wrong during races. 41:45 – The Paradox of Effort in an Easy World: Why modern comfort drives us to seek difficult challenges. 48:30 – Reframing Struggle & Perspective on the Trail: How mindset shifts can turn suffering into forward progress. 55:00 – Intention Over Perfection: Why showing up with purpose matters more than executing a flawless race. 59:30 – Meaning, Community & Final Quotes: Closing reflections on bonding, humanity, and why endurance sports matter. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we are joined by Michael Miller to discuss his book Run Like a Rarámuri : Stories and Wisdoms from the Sierra Tarahumara and Running Long and his deep connection to the Indigenous Rarámuri "running people" of Mexico's Sierra Tarahumara. Drawing on years spent living among the community, Michael shares how running is woven into their social fabric as a celebration of resilience, nature, and togetherness rather than competition or performance. The conversation explores powerful cultural concepts like korima, the practice of sharing without expectation, and how movement in nature can restore balance and contentment in modern life. Michael also reflects on the legacy of Micah True (Caballo Blanco) and the evolution of the Ultramarathon Caballo Blanco race, which now brings together runners from around the world while supporting local communities. We consider what trail runners can learn from the Rarámuri about simplicity, presence, and reconnecting with the deeper purpose of running. Ultimately, the discussion suggests that "running like a Rarámuri" is less about technique and more about learning to live with gratitude, connection, and joy. Check out the non-profit True Messages for more information and how to support these projects, and these other links: Ultra Caballo Blanco Copper Canyons Entre Amigos Camps Instagram Sponsors: Tifosi Optics - check out how to win a free pair of the new Sanctum SL and how to get a discount Peluva - let your feet be feet! Timestamps 0:00 Intro to Michael Miller and Run Like a Rarámuri 2:05 What makes the Ultramarathon Caballo Blanco unique 6:15 Who the Rarámuri are and how Born to Run shaped their global story 14:10 Running as culture: traditional games, community, and connection 20:06 Michael's personal journey to the Sierra and why this became a passion project 29:37 Training vs. lifestyle: how the Rarámuri develop endurance naturally 34:52 Is the book about running… or about living? 44:42 Korima explained: sharing, gratitude, and the social fabric of the Rarámuri 51:11 Supporting the community: nonprofit work and how listeners can help 58:13 Closing reflections on Micah True's legacy and running free Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation's Aging as an Athlete series, along with Krissy Moehl, we welcome elite ultrarunner and therapist Darcy Piceu for a thoughtful conversation about longevity in endurance sports. Drawing on more than two decades of racing at the highest level, Darcy explains that there is no "magic pill" for staying in the sport long term, emphasizing instead the importance of self-care, strength work, listening to the body, and adapting training as athletes age. The discussion explores the mental side of endurance, including acceptance of changing performance, learning to manage negative thoughts during long races, and developing the wisdom that comes from decades of experience. Darcy also shares how mindfulness and time in nature play a powerful role in both mental health and athletic performance, something she incorporates into her therapy practice. We reflect on the evolving identity of an athlete over time, balancing competitiveness with enjoyment, family life, and other pursuits beyond running. We highlight that staying in the sport for decades is less about chasing podiums and more about cultivating resilience, perspective, and a lasting love for the trail. Check out Darcy's Therapy practice, "Therapy in Action" or get in touch with her [email protected]. If you're in Bellingham, WA in March and want to help out at Chuckanut 50k, click here to volunteer. Episode Sponsor: Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Episode Topics & Timestamps 1:00 – Darcy's Background: Elite Runner and Therapist 3:30 – What Creates Longevity in the Sport? 6:00 – The Mental Side of Aging as an Athlete 9:00 – Mindfulness, Stress, and Mental Training 12:45 – Mental Toughness in Ultrarunning 17:30 – The Power of Nature and Trail Therapy 23:00 – Managing Focus During Long Races 29:00 – Racing for the Podium vs Racing for the Experience 31:30 – How Darcy Found Ultrarunning 35:30 – Hardrock, Motherhood, and Career Balance 38:30 – Training Philosophy for Longevity 41:00 – The Wednesday Women's Run in Boulder 44:00 – Identity Beyond Running 48:00 – What Makes a Race Truly Successful? 52:30 – Advice to Younger and Older Versions of Yourself 56:30 – The Mental vs Physical Performance Question 1:00:15 – Therapy in Action and Closing Thoughts Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we sit down with filmmaker Dylan Harris to talk about his powerful new film, The Cut-Off. Instead of following the front of the pack, the film shines a light on the runners fighting the clock at aid stations, chasing the courage it takes simply to continue. Dylan shares the inspiration behind the project, the stories that moved him most, and what the back-of-the-pack reveals about grit, community, and the true spirit of trail running. This conversation is a reminder that endurance isn't just about speed; it's about persistence, heart, and refusing to quit when the margin gets thin. Links: SomoCollective: Dylan's production company Arivaipa Running: Producer and site of the film, Cocadona 250 Lucy's Dad Film: another of Dylan's films Get the "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Time Stamps 1:30 – Introducing Dylan Harris and the story behind The Cut-Off5:00 – Why focus on back-of-the-pack runners? 10:30 – The emotional reality of chasing aid station cutoffs 18:00 – Stories from filming: moments of grit, struggle, and triumph 26:00 – What the back-of-the-pack reveals about trail culture 34:00 – The community factor: volunteers, crews, and fellow runners 42:00 – Lessons from the film for everyday runners 50:00 – Where to watch The Cut-Off and what's next for Dylan 55:00 – Final thoughts and closing Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we are joined by Cliff Pittman, Coaching Development Director for CTS. We take a practical look at VO₂ max and what it really means for everyday runners. We explore whether this popular performance metric is truly essential, how much it matters for trail and ultra athletes, and where it can be misunderstood or overemphasized. The conversation cuts through the numbers to focus on what actually helps runners train smarter, stay healthy, and improve long-term performance. If you've ever wondered whether your VO₂ max score is a guiding light or just another shiny data point, this episode brings clarity and perspective from the trail. Key Topics What is VO2 max and why does it matter for ultra runners? The accuracy and limitations of wearable VO2 max estimates How VO2 max relates to performance, aging, and training adaptability The concept of fractional utilization versus maximum effort Strategies for incorporating VO2 max training into your season Cross-training options like cycling and swimming for low-impact VO2 max work Monitoring progress with lab versus field testing and subjective feedback The importance of training variety and maintaining the entire aerobic engine Practical workout templates: intervals, recovery, and dosage over seasons How strength training and muscle mass influence VO2 max Get the "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Timestamps 00:00 - Overview of the podcast topic: VO2 max importance for ultra runners 02:31 - Christian Blumenfeldt's unbelievable VO2 max of 101.1 — reality versus perception 03:26 - Simplified definition of VO2 max — oxygen consumption capacity of the body 04:43 - Limitations of wearable VO2 max estimates and lab versus field testing accuracy 05:34 - Why VO2 max is only part of the performance equation, not the whole story 07:13 - How VO2 max predicts short race performance but less so in ultradistance events 08:11 - The impact of fatigue resistance, durability, and fueling on ultramarathon success 09:31 - The significance of fractional utilization (operating below VO2 max ceiling) 10:13 - Can VO2 max be manipulated through training? Early season versus peak preparation 12:00 - The endurance spectrum: training both VO2 max and aerobic base for a well-rounded system 13:35 - Visualizing training as a string; raising ceiling versus improving utilization 14:34 - Should runners push to their VO2 max ceiling or focus on fractional utilization? 17:17 - Training strategies: balancing intensity, recovery, and avoiding injury during VO2 max work 20:04 - Substituting high-intensity VO2 work with cross-training (cycling, swimming) to reduce impact 21:28 - Monitoring other critical metrics: lactate threshold, recovery pace, subjective feedback 23:53 - The significance of individualized, periodized VO2 max training blocks 26:42 - The importance of patience, gradual progression, and listening to your body 28:55 - How to incorporate VO2 max sessions into your weekly plan: frequency, duration, and recovery 33:16 - The role of training specificity and modality as competition approaches 41:38 - Maintaining fitness and VO2 max as we age through consistent, varied training 43:33 - Linking strength training and lean muscle mass to VO2 max improvements 46:51 - Cross-training options and managing impact: cycling, swimming, hill repeats 48:37 - Final tips for beginners and experienced runners on starting VO2 max work safely 52:12 - The future of training: evidence-based approaches and coaching support at CTS Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Alex Hutchinson rejoins Trail Runner Nation discuss why muscle is the real engine behind endurance, performance, and long-term health, especially as runners get older. The conversation explores how and why we lose muscle over time, why this decline matters for speed, resilience, and injury prevention, and the encouraging truth that much of it is reversible. Alex explains the critical role of strength training, the importance of intensity and progressive load, and how endurance athletes can balance running with the work needed to maintain power. The discussion also challenges common myths about aging, showing that performance losses are not inevitable but often the result of training gaps rather than biology alone. For aging athletes and lifelong runners, this episode offers a practical roadmap for staying strong, capable, and competitive for decades. This discussion began from Alex's review of Michael Joseph Gross' book, "Stronger: The Untold Story of Muscle in Our Lives" Key Topics: The evolving understanding of muscle as a core component of human health, not just aesthetics or performance. Historical perspectives on muscle research, from ancient Greece to misconceptions over the centuries. The modern shift towards heavy lifting among elite athletes and implications for older adults. The inspiring work of Maria Fiaturone Singh on elderly resistance training and outcomes in musculoskeletal health. Practical advice for incorporating strength training into daily life with minimal equipment. The psychological and physical joys of feeling the movement of heavy lifting with purpose. How resistance training enhances posture, independence, and injury prevention in aging. Personal journeys—from bodybuilding to running, and reintegration of strength work in midlife. Overcoming mental barriers to strength training: finding routines you enjoy and tracking progress. The importance of consistent, accessible strength habits like bodyweight exercises and small routines. Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome and episode overview: Why muscle matters for longevity and performance 03:04 - Historical insights on human perceptions of muscle across centuries 06:07 - The pioneers redefining muscle's role in aging and health span 09:49 - Debunking myths about muscle decline after 60 and implications for older adults 13:23 - The prejudice within medicine and sports communities against strength training 14:37 - Maintaining posture and independence through muscle health 18:11 - How elite athletes have adopted heavy lifting techniques 21:23 - Personal stories: Don's bodybuilding background and Alex's running evolution 24:39 - The joys of feeling powerful and acting upon the environment through strength 28:09 - Practical tips for integrating resistance exercises into everyday routines 34:30 - How tracking progress enhances motivation and long-term adherence 39:38 - Finding your personal motivation and joy in strength training 41:33 - Quick resistance exercises on the trail or at home 43:23 - The impact of efficient strength habits on overall well-being Resources & Links: Stronger: A Scientist's Guide to the Power of Muscle — by Michael Joseph Gross The Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance The Explorer's Gene: Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map Outside Online Sweat Science Connect with Alex Hutchinson: Twitter Instagram AlexHutchinson.net Get the "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Discover proven strategies to prevent foot issues and optimize your performance in ultra running. Dr. Tanya Olson joins us to share expert insights on foot care routines, products, and techniques that keep feet healthy and injury-free. Key Topics: The importance of planning a comprehensive foot care strategy before race day Modern products and methods for preventing blisters, maceration, and toenail damage Why traditional remedies like duct tape and Vaseline are outdated The role of socks, shoes, and foot anatomy in maintaining foot health How to implement a foot care plan during training and races Techniques for treating blisters, including when and how to lance safely The benefits of toe caps, specialized socks, and footwear modifications Adjusting foot care strategies for different terrains, elevations, and conditions The significance of monitoring foot response post-run to fine-tune care routines Don't wait for problems: proactive measures to keep your feet in top condition Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to foot care for ultra runners 00:45 - Common foot problems and why they're preventable 02:10 - Modern advancements in foot care products 03:25 - The pitfalls of using duct tape and Vaseline 04:30 - Developing a personalized foot care plan 06:00 - Managing moisture and preventing maceration 07:45 - Addressing sweaty feet and saltwater effects 09:00 - Tips for taping and preventing blisters during races 10:00 - Specific techniques for treatment and prevention 15:00 - How terrain, elevation, and running style influence foot care 20:00 - Toenail health and corrections for injuries 25:00 - When and how to lance blisters safely 30:00 - Post-race foot monitoring and adjustments 35:00 - The importance of education and continuous improvement 38:00 - Future resources and part two of this series Resources & Links: Fixing Your Feet Seventh Edition by Dr. John Vonhof & Dr. Tonya Olson Footcare- YouTube Channel Footcare Products Tonya Recommends Dr. Tanya Olson's website Kinesiology Tape for Foot Care Salty Britches Skin Barrier Ointment Toe Caps (Toe Condoms) – Pressure Relief Alpaca Fiber Socks (Hollow Brand) Mastisol Skin Adhesive Get the "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This episode brings back Trail Runner Nation's Point–Counterpoint format, with coaches Ian Sharman, Annie Hughes, Jeff Browning, and Trish Ahrends stepping into the debate arena. Responding to listener feedback, this episode leans hard into our long-held "experiment of one" philosophy. Each coach is assigned a position and must defend it, whether they personally agree or not. Training myths, sacred cows, and well-worn advice get put on trial through experience, evidence, and strong opinions. The result is fast-paced, thoughtful, and occasionally spicy. Pick a side, challenge your assumptions, and enjoy the debate. Need coaching? Try giving these coaches a try: GiddyUp Ultra Sharman Ultra Proof that Ian met David Beckham Get the "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this powerful episode, we sit down with our special co-host, Krissy Moehl, and with climber, endurance athlete, and paraplegic adventurer Quinn Brett for a conversation that stretches far beyond sport. We explore what happens when the body changes, identity is shaken, and resilience becomes a daily practice. Quinn's story is one of dramatic transformation. Once a climber, guide, and search-and-rescue professional, her life changed forever after a catastrophic fall on El Capitan in 2017 that left her with a T11 ASIA A spinal cord injury. With honesty and clarity, Quinn explains what that diagnosis means, how it affects her body, and how it reshaped the way she sees herself and the world. But this episode is not about loss. It's about endurance redefined. Drawing on her background in psychology, yoga, and ultra-endurance sport, Quinn shares how the mindset she built as an athlete now fuels her recovery and her future. Endurance, she explains, is no longer measured in miles or summits, but in the daily choice to keep moving forward, mentally and emotionally. The conversation weaves through the realities of aging, injury, and reinvention, highlighting the role of community, purpose, and curiosity in building a meaningful next chapter. Quinn's eyes are firmly on the horizon, with goals that include open-water swimming and even triathlons, proof that adventure doesn't end when life changes direction. This episode is a reminder that while our bodies evolve and our paths shift, the spirit of an athlete, the drive to explore, and the courage to adapt can remain boundless. Gold Nuggets Aging and injury can redefine, not diminish, the athlete's journey Understanding spinal cord injuries fosters empathy and support Endurance is as much mental as it is physical Community, mindset, and purpose are essential for long-term resilience Links that you should check out: Unite 2 Fight CureCast Podcast Unite 2 Fight Paralysis An Accidental Life movie on Amazon Prime The Tour Divide film Quinn's Website Krissy's Website Get the "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What happens when a once-fringe sport starts to go mainstream — and can it grow without losing its soul? In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we sit down with Jamil Coury, founder and CEO of Aravaipa Running and publisher of UltraRunning Magazine, to explore the State of Trail and Ultrarunning in 2026. Jamil shares a 30,000-foot view of how the sport has evolved over the past decade, from participation and media coverage to rising expectations around professionalism and athlete experience. We discuss the emergence of 200+ mile races, the power of livestreaming and storytelling, and how technology is changing how runners train, race, and engage with the sport. The conversation also tackles cost, accessibility, and the growing presence of corporate influence, alongside the responsibility of race directors as stewards of ultrarunning's culture. Throughout it all, Jamil reminds us why the sport still works — community, shared suffering, and a deep respect between elites and back-of-the-pack runners alike. Follow Aravaipa Running on Instagram to find out more about the upcoming movie, "The Cutoff" Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This is a previously recorded episode of Trail Runner Nation, but its message remains just as relevant today. In this conversation, we're joined by Adam Kimble to explore the often-overlooked power of consistency in running and training. Instead of chasing perfect workouts or peak moments, we discuss how small, repeatable efforts add up over time to build durability, confidence, and long-term progress. Adam shares insights on staying consistent through busy schedules, low-motivation days, and inevitable setbacks. Whether you're training for your first trail race or a 100-miler, this episode reminds us that showing up consistently matters more than doing everything perfectly. Learn more about Adam by checking out his web site and his coaching site, Run On Dirt Coaching Adam's social channels: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today's episode is all about having some fun on the trail. We are joined by Andy Jones-Wilkins and Katie Asmuth, and we're playing the classic "dictionary game" — taking random words from a 1931 Webster's Collegiate Dictionary and turning them into something every trail runner can relate to. It's playful, a little ridiculous at times, and guaranteed to make you laugh while nodding along. Lace up, play along, and enjoy this one. Check out more about Katie Asmuth on her podcast, "The Trail Network Podcast" The Women's Trailrunning Fund Hire AJW as a coach! And read his weekly article in the AJW's Taproom Or tune into the Crack a Brew with AJWpodcast. Episode Sponsors Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this lighthearted, game-show–style episode, we try and answer the age-old question: Am I really a trail runner? Audience participation is a must as we work through 33 humorous and painfully relatable statements covering gear habits, weather and suffering, aid stations, trail culture, injuries, and even bathroom logistics. You keep score to discover whether you're a noob, veteran, grizzled trail runner, or full-blown OG. Along the way, we share personal stories, questionable decisions, and plenty of laughs that anyone who's spent time on the trail will recognize. It's participatory, self-aware, and a reminder that trail running is as much about community and mindset as miles and pace. Grab your scorecard (or fingers), protect your dignity, and find out just how trail you really are. Episode Sponsors Janji, use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off NEW partner: Check out the coaching platform Good Coach App. You can use it for free for up to 2 athletes, with no trial period. Coaches get 50% off for three months with code trn2026. Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Iron Mike Wardian returns to Trail Runner Nation for a conversation that celebrates running beyond race bibs and finish lines. From running across the United States to circumnavigating islands and turning family vacations into adventure runs, Mike shares the stories that shaped his love for exploration and curiosity. Along the way, he recounts funny and unexpected moments—wildlife encounters, small-town hospitality, and situations only he seems to find himself in. The episode highlights how adventure, creativity, and community often matter more than pace, podiums, or results. It's a reminder that some of the most meaningful runs happen when there's no clock and no competition. Learn more about Mike at his website Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they are on sale! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we explore one of the most overlooked performance tools in ultrarunning: not running. Coach and elite ultrarunner Ian Sharman explains how active recovery, power-hiking, and weight-vest hiking help athletes build durability, reduce muscle damage, conserve glycogen, and avoid the dreaded late-race death march. We break down why power-hiking is a smart performance strategy used by elites, when hiking becomes more efficient than running, and how small training adjustments can dramatically improve long-race outcomes. Ian also shares practical guidance on using weight vests wisely and why your slowest mile often matters more than your fastest. Find out more about Ian at Sharman Ultra Coaching Episode Sponsors Janji, use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off NEW partner: Check out the coaching platform Good Coach App. You can use it for free for up to 2 athletes, with no trial period. Coaches get 50% off for three months with code trn2026. Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we talk with exercise scientist Dr. Nick Tiller, author of the Ultrarunning Magazine article "Protein While Racing, Training Runs to Predict Performance & Progressing to Ultra." Starting from the wild story of Milo of Croton—an ancient athlete who drank ox blood and ate raw animal flesh—we trace how endurance nutrition has swung from carb-loading to fat-adaptation and ask where protein fits in today. Dr. Tiller explains why small amounts of protein during long races can help with muscle damage and taste fatigue, how to "train your gut" just like your legs, and why aid station real food matters more than we think. We also touch on creatine—why it works, why it may not be ideal for most endurance runners—and how to use science and healthy skepticism to cut through the wellness and nutrition noise on the trail. Find out more about Dr. Nick Author, The Skeptic's Guide to Sports Science Columnist, Skeptical Inquirer, Ultra-Running Magazine Website: www.nbtiller.com Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Today we're cooking up something a little different—a Trail Runner Nation–style feast inspired by the U.S. holiday of Thanksgiving. Just like families gather to celebrate gratitude and good food, we're gathering around the podcast table to share the habits, ideas, and rituals that make us better runners. And who else should be joining us be A. Jizzle Wizzle, Coach Andy Jones-Wilkins. In this playful, feast-themed episode, each host brings an entrée, side dish, and dessert—but instead of turkey and pie, we're talking about the practices that nourish our training, support our goals, and add a little sweetness to the trail experience. Don attempts to explain the rules, and the fun (and friendly trash-talk) begins. Hire AJW as a coach! And read his weekly article in the AJW's Taproom Or tune into the "Crack a Brew with AJW" podcast. Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they will be on sale for 24 hours during Black Friday, November 28 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this seventh installment of Aging as an Athlete series, Scott, Don, and Krissy sit down with elite ultrarunner and longtime coach Ian Sharman to explore what it really means to run well as the years go by. Ian shares insights from 20+ years of racing—including a marathon course record he set after turning 45—and lessons learned from coaching athletes across all ages and abilities. He offers a preview of his upcoming book, where he dives into topics like identity, adventure, and avoiding burnout. Together, we unpack how runners can evolve their training, protect their joy for the sport, and keep adventure at the center of their lives. This conversation blends practical wisdom with big-picture perspective, reminding all of us that aging as an athlete isn't a limitation—it's an opportunity. Find out more about Annie and Ian at Sharman Ultra Coaching Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off NEW! MudGear Socks - Get a special discount by clicking the link Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they will be on sale for 24 hours during Black Friday, November 28 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we sit down with the new book Running Breakthroughs author Floris Gierman to explore what truly drives joy, consistency, and long-term progress in running. Floris shares the patterns he's uncovered after years of conversations with athletes, coaches, and researchers—stories of everyday runners who transformed their lives through simple habits, sustainable training, and a kinder relationship with themselves. We talk about why self-compassion is one of the most overlooked performance tools, how slowing down can actually speed you up, and why being present in the moment matters more than chasing the perfect workout. Floris opens up about the breakthrough stories that changed him, including moments that reshaped his definition of success both on and off the trail. If you've ever struggled with plateaus, burnout, or being too hard on yourself, this conversation offers practical tools—and inspiring reflections—to help you fall in love with running all over again. Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off NEW! MudGear Socks - Get a special discount by clicking the link Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they will be on sale for 24 hours during Black Friday, November 21 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it take to keep running strong from your teens into your 90s? In this new episode of The Aging Athlete series, Krissy Moehl co-hosts as we sit down with Shawn Cheshire to talk about her journey through adversity as she is aging and how to adapt to life's circumstances, making her "obstacles the way". Shawn Cheshire is a blind athlete who has achieved remarkable feats in biking and trail running. We walk through Shawn's journey of losing her sight, her transition to becoming a competitive athlete, and her record-setting adventure on the Wonderland Trail. The discussion emphasizes the importance of mental resilience, training, and the power of communication in overcoming challenges. Shawn shares her insights on cohabitating with difficulties and the significance of movement in life, inspiring listeners to embrace their own journeys regardless of age or obstacles. In past Aging Athlete episodes, we've explored how to train smarter as we age, not harder—covering topics like ◦ adapting your training plans, ◦ hormone optimization, ◦ navigating menopause, ◦ Fueling for performance and longevity, ◦ and shifting recovery strategies. You can find out more about Shawn at Choosing to See and look for her movie Blind AF Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off NEW! MudGear Socks - Get a special discount by clicking the link Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they are on sale! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this "Point–Counterpoint" episode, we are joined by coaches from two teams—Sharman Ultra (Ian Sharman & Ellie Greenwood) and Giddy Up Ultra (Jeff Browning & Trish Arends)—to debate hot-button trail topics. They tackle gadgets vs. going by feel (most land on the fence, with Scott pledging a watch-free run), active recovery vs. full rest (consensus: gentle movement wins "if done well"), and competition/professionalization vs. community (community edges out, though competition drives innovation and visibility). A rapid-fire round on race fees concludes that higher prices can be worth it when safety, marking, and aid are rock solid, but swag bloat and accessibility are real concerns. Throughout, the value of a coach emerges as a recurring theme—helping athletes tailor decisions to personality, history, and goals. Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off NEW! MudGear Socks - Get a special discount by clicking the link Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they are on sale! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dr. Phil Maffetone returns to revisit the MAF Method—training by low heart rate (≈180 minus age)—with Don sharing how it saved his a 100-mile race. Phil explains why most endurance performance is aerobic and how building that system (plus cleaning up diet) beats "no-pain-no-gain." The episode pivots to his new brain-health research: refined carbs and excess body fat can impair the brain, but the good news is the brain is highly resilient and improves quickly when you remove junk sugars and eat healthy fats. Practical takeaways include using a heart-rate monitor to measure progress, prioritizing diet alongside training, and adding brain-boosters like aerobic exercise, novelty/music, meditation, deep breathing, and even cold exposure. Phil shares daily habits (his "fat-burning coffee," eggs, veggies) and the famous Mark Allen story to show how speed rises at the same heart rate as fitness improves. Throughout, the crew keeps it playful—touching on music, comedy, and even AI—while reinforcing one theme: train smarter, feed your brain, and you'll run better. Here is the LINK to the Brain Training research paper we talked about. Here is the Human Error article Link to Dr. Phil's music Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off NEW! MudGear Socks - Get a special discount by clicking the link Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they are on sale! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Have you ever heard a runner drop out of a race and say, "It just wasn't my day"? Well, Meghan Canfield—known to the trail world as The Queen—has something to say about that. She argues, "Of course it's your day! It's certainly not anyone else's." In this episode, Meghan joins us to explore what that really means. Inspired by her recent article in UltraRunning Magazine titled "Adventure of Life," Meghan shares how every long run, race, or adventure mirrors the journey of life itself. Things rarely go exactly as planned—both on the trail and off it—but those unexpected detours aren't signs to quit. They're opportunities to adapt, learn, and keep moving forward. Meghan shows us how to: Reframe setbacks as chances for growth Trade frustration for curiosity when things go sideways. See each run—and each day—as an adventure full of surprises, struggles, and joy. She also opens up about the lessons she's learned from her own mistakes and offers practical tips to help you push through those tough miles—on the trail and in life. Every day brings a new story. Meghan Canfield is here to remind us to run it with purpose, curiosity, and heart. Find out more about Meghan and hire her or some of her friends as a coach at Zenith Coaches. Episode Sponsors Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Bear Mattress, get 40% off your first order with code TRAIL Get our new "1 > 0" technical running hat Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it take to keep running strong from your teens into your 90s? In this sixth episode of The Aging Athlete series, Krissy Moehl co-hosts as we sit down with Meredith Terranova to discuss the fuel behind performance and longevity. • In past Aging Athlete episodes, we've explored how to train smarter as we age, not harder—covering topics like ◦ adapting your training plans, ◦ hormone optimization, ◦ navigating menopause, ◦ and shifting recovery strategies. Meredith has over 100 ultra finishes and three Ultraman finishes, including a 5th place at the world Championships in 2014, 3 days of swimming 6.2M biking, 315 miles and running 52 miles. She has a bachelor's in Human Nutrition and a master's in Advanced Nutrition and Human Performance. She brings a science-backed, experience-rich perspective on how to fuel our bodies through the decades—for energy, recovery, and resilience. We don't claim to have every answer—but together, with these experts, we'll discover that aging isn't something to fear, it's something to understand, adapt to—and even celebrate. Check out more about Meredith and how she can help you at Eating and Living Healthy Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they are on sale! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Dr. Mark Cucuzzella returns for his 19th visit (first joined us in 2012) to unpack the "pendulum swings" in running— from minimalist to maximal shoes, handhelds to hydration vests, and data-free runs to tech-heavy biometrics. He shares how his natural-footwear ethos (and Two Rivers Treads) started before the trend, why different terrains and athletes may benefit from different shoes, and why rotating options can build stronger, more resilient feet. We talk about rucking with a weighted vest as a low-impact way to boost strength, bone density, and aerobic fitness—especially for masters runners— plus the value of short, fast strides to keep leg speed with age. On fueling, Mark reframes the carbs-vs.-keto debate around individual metabolic health and race-day pragmatism: maintain blood glucose, experiment cautiously, and avoid one-size-fits-all prescriptions. Big takeaway: be an experiment of one—choose the tools, shoes, and fueling that keep you healthy, happy, and on the trails for life. LInks to stuff we talked about: Dr. Tim Noakes article on hypoglycemia Mark Sisson's free ebook on minimal footwear Dr. Mark's Battle of the shoes article Don mentioned the 8:20 video of running form that Dr. Mark produced More information about Mark Book www.runforyourlifebook.com Personal site www.drmarksdesk.com Education Site: www.naturalrunningcenter.com Store: www.tworiverstreads.com Event Series www.freedomsrun.org Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Bear Mattress, get 40% off your first order with code TRAIL Get our new "1 > 0" technical running hat Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we welcome back Bob Crowley and Tim Twietmeyer, co-founders of History Expeditions, who've shown us how endurance fitness can unlock incredible adventures beyond racing. This fall, they and a team of veteran endurance athletes will bring history to life with a never-before-attempted 120-mile horseback crossing of the Sierra Nevada, retracing the Stephens-Townsend-Murphy Party's path. Over five days, they'll ride from Donner Lake to Auburn, uncovering long-lost routes, reflecting on the grit of California's pioneers, and honoring one of America's most harrowing journeys. This isn't just an expedition—it's endurance sport meeting living history. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER Get the NEW "1 > 0" running hat HERE. Limited supply.... and they are on sale! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it take to keep running strong from your teens into your 90s? In this fifth episode of The Aging Athlete series, Krissy Moehl co-hosts as we sit down with Jeff Browning—coach, ultrarunner, and one of the sport's most consistent and ageless performers. Jeff shares how he has adapted his training across decades, balancing intensity with recovery to stay competitive deep into his 50s. He talks about the importance of nutrition, mindset, and smart planning as the body changes, offering practical lessons that apply at any age. His story is proof that aging doesn't mean slowing down—it means evolving. Tune in for insights on how to adjust your training and embrace the long game on the trail. Learn More about Bronco Billy at: giddyupultra.com Instagram YouTube Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ, Used by Tour de France champions—Ketone-IQ naturally boosts EPO, recovery, and endurance. Get 30% off your first subscription order Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN JAMBAR: 20% off with code TRN20 Get our new "1 > 0" technical running hat - THEY'RE on SALE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.