Upcoming Trial of Nathan Chasing Horse April 14, 2025

Marina Crane reflects on the aftermath of Nathan Chasing Horse's sentencing, discussing the impact on victims and the role of Indigenous matriarchy. She also delves into the historical context of colonialism, religious indoctrination, and the importance of trust in her personal journey. Marina Crane shares her thoughts on being a witness for truth and reconciliation in Canada, emphasizing the active commitment to acknowledging the deep harms caused by the Indian residential school system. She discusses the responsibilities of a witness and the importance of supporting Indigenous-led efforts for reconciliation.TakeawaysIndigenous matriarchy as a source of strength and assertivenessThe impact of historical colonialism and religious indoctrination on Indigenous communities Witnessing for truth and reconciliation is an active and ongoing commitment.Supporting Indigenous-led efforts is crucial for advancing reconciliation.Chapters00:00 Reflections on the Aftermath06:21 Historical Context of Colonialism and Religious Indoctrination16:34 The Importance of Trust in Personal Journey31:39 The Role of a Witness for Truth and Reconciliation40:13 The Symbolic Gift and Its Meaning56:58 Lateral Violence and the Impact on Victims

The conversation delves into the impact of fawning as a trauma response and the dynamics of intergenerational trauma. It explores the experiences of abuse victims and the legacy of trauma passed down through generations, shedding light on the complexities of survival and healing. The conversation covers themes of empowerment through education, the impact of trauma and healing, addressing systemic racism, seeking justice, and the importance of cultural identity and matriarchy in Indigenous communities. It also delves into historical injustices, accountability, and the legacy of invisible helping hands in healing and community support.TakeawaysFawning as a trauma responseImpact of intergenerational trauma Empowerment through educationImpact of trauma and healingChapters00:00 The Impact of Fawning as a Trauma Response37:46 Empowering Young Men in Criminal Justice43:14 Impact of Systemic Racism50:05 Releasing the Soul and Seeking Peace55:32 False Prophecy and Community Healing01:01:36 Systemic Racism and Indigenous Identity01:08:32 Witnessing Injustice and Responsibility

The podcast explores the challenges of self-forgiveness, cultural indoctrination, power, impunity, and accountability, drawing parallels with historical and contemporary leaders. It also delves into the impact of artistic expression and psychological initiation on participants. The conversation delves into the world of performance art and the Wauwipi ceremony, exploring the themes of trauma bonding, sickness diagnosis, ritualistic surfaces, esoteric practices, the inverted mystic, and the era of numbness. It emphasizes the importance of self-forgiveness and honest reckoning in the face of trauma and societal challenges.TakeawaysSelf-forgiveness is a challenging processPower and impunity can lead to a lack of accountability Performance art and the Wauwipi ceremony serve as platforms for trauma bonding and the diagnosis of sickness within the human field.The collapse of boundaries between private and public domains, the normalization of ritual, and the transition of private practices to public knowledge are key themes in the conversation.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Podcast Focus05:59 Cultural Indoctrination and Self-Reckoning11:01 Navigating Self-Forgiveness and Grace17:06 Mahatma Gandhi and Parallel Leadership22:11 Victim Testimonies and Accountability27:55 Artistic Expression and Psychological Initiation36:10 Diagnosing and Exposing Sickness41:16 Ritualistic Surfaces and Boundaries50:32 The Inverted Mystic and Fragility55:46 The Era of Numbness and Self-Forgiveness

The conversation delves into the understanding of salience in psychosis, the formation of delusions, and the impact of childhood trauma on mental health. It emphasizes the importance of early treatment and the need for empathy and compassion in addressing mental health challenges. The conversation delves into the understanding of mental health processes and the impact of early life difficulties on individuals. It explores the need for empathy and support for those experiencing psychosis and personality disorders, as well as the importance of consistent and holistic healing in Indigenous communities.TakeawaysSalience in psychosisUnderstanding psychosis and delusionsImportance of early treatmentImpact of childhood trauma on mental health Understanding mental health processesThe impact of early life difficultiesChapters00:00 Impact of Childhood Trauma on Mental Health39:37 Understanding Mental Health Processes55:22 Impact of Early Life Difficulties

The podcast covers a wide range of topics including prayer, Indigenous traditions, cultural healing, self-defeating behavior, emotional regulation, systemic betrayal, and survivor experiences. Marina shares personal reflections and insights on these topics, emphasizing the importance of cultural understanding and emotional healing. The conversation delves into topics of compassion, forgiveness, moral injury, baiting, self-defeating behavior, cultural repression, genuine intimacy, support, sexual repression, trauma and abuse, healthy human sexuality, and embracing Indigenous women. Marina shares personal experiences and insights, highlighting the impact of these themes on her life and community.TakeawaysCultural healing and balance are essential for Indigenous communitiesSystemic betrayal and moral injury impact survivors of abuseEmotional regulation and self-defeating behavior are complex and deeply rooted in personal experiences Compassion and understanding are essential in healing from trauma and moral injury.Genuine intimacy is revealed in moments of vulnerability and requires safety, presence, and commitment.Chapters00:00 Podcast and Audience Reflection06:05 Interviewing Survivors of Nathan Chasing Horse11:08 Abuse and Betrayal in Indigenous Communities17:23 Relationship with Nature and Ancestral Knowledge22:46 Human Response and Adaptation28:05 Rewiring Program and Emotional Regulation33:26 Validation and Support in Trauma Recovery49:29 Compassion and Healing54:43 Baiting and Manipulation01:06:18 Genuine Intimacy01:17:18 Support and Commitment01:23:06 Impact of Trauma and Abuse01:31:38 Healthy Human Sexuality

Marina Crane shares her personal journey of trauma, healing, and self-discovery, highlighting the impact of trauma on Indigenous women and the complexities of relationships and intimacy. She discusses the deconstruction of self-defeating behavior and the cautionary tale of unhealthy attachments and limerence. Marina Crane discusses the psychological impact of trauma, limerence, and the intergenerational effects of Indian residential schools. She delves into the systemic racism, purity culture, and the importance of empowerment and choice for Indigenous youth. Marina emphasizes the survival and resilience of Indigenous people despite historical atrocities and ongoing challenges.TakeawaysTrauma has a profound impact on Indigenous women, making it difficult for them to heal and navigate healthy relationships.Understanding and deconstructing self-defeating behavior, unhealthy attachments, and limerence is crucial for personal growth and healing. Understanding the psychological impact of trauma and intergenerational traumaRecognizing the systemic racism and purity cultureEmpowerment and choice for Indigenous youthSurvival and resilience of Indigenous peopleChapters00:00 Navigating Trauma and Healing07:22 Self-Discovery and Personal Growth17:20 Deconstructing Self-Defeating Behavior23:17 Interpersonal Tensions and Cautionary Tales31:31 Understanding Limerence and Trauma45:14 Psychological Impact of Purity Culture55:15 Systemic Racism and Trust

Reflections on Indigenous Women’s Experiences: Lateral Violence, Systemic Racism, and HealingMarina Crane’s Journey from Calgary: Conversations on Truth, Trauma, and StrengthIntroductionGood afternoon, it’s Marina Crane again from Suchana First Nations on the outskirts of Calgary, Alberta, Canada. With the city of a million people as backdrop, I want to share thoughts that add to the ongoing dynamics of how Indigenous women are perceived—and the vital need to educate younger Indigenous women.Understanding Lateral Violence and PerceptionsThroughout history, Indigenous women have been born and raised within systems shaped by systemic racism. Lateral violence—harm inflicted within our own communities—often emerges from these systems, compounding trauma and shaping perceptions. These notes reflect on past discussions, hoping listeners and readers gain insight.The Impact of Change and Emotional TurmoilThere is a palpable sense of emotion and negativity in the air, especially as communities grapple with change. Change is difficult for many, and conversations with loved ones reveal how this struggle can affect relationships. People often resist change, sometimes projecting their feelings onto others rather than facing their own challenges.Experiences of Lateral Violence and Social MediaLateral violence can take shape on platforms like Facebook, where hurtful accusations—such as being labelled a pedophile—are spread without empathy or concern for the person affected. Rather than reporting such posts, individuals sometimes share them, fuelling gossip and causing pain. These actions reflect deeper issues within our social circles, often rooted in a lack of accountability and understanding of the impact on others.Maintaining Boundaries and PrivacyAs an Indigenous woman, keeping one’s life private and setting boundaries is a conscious effort. Gossip and denial can persist for decades, especially when those we work alongside in the community are the ones spreading harmful narratives. The ethical space—where safety and truth are valued—can be threatened by such actions, undermining the work of social change.Systemic Racism and Generational TraumaSystemic racism is woven deeply into the fabric of Canadian society. Historical and ongoing discrimination shapes how Indigenous women are perceived and treated. Stories of young women facing high-risk behaviours, suicide, pregnancy, and intergenerational trauma highlight the urgent need for support systems and healing ceremonies. Yet, disclosure of abuse or harm is often met with silence or denial, further perpetuating cycles of harm.Healing, Identity, and SexualityHealing is a lifelong journey. Conversations about healthy human sexuality, boundaries, and abstinence challenge harmful stereotypes and encourage openness. Elders can offer valuable guidance, stressing the importance of addressing these issues early in life. Healing requires surfacing buried emotions and processing past behaviour, rather than projecting pain onto others.Family relationships are complex, especially when affected by lateral violence, cult dynamics, or conflicting narratives. Children and youth often return to their families seeking connection and support, only to find parents struggling with addiction, trauma, or systemic barriers. The importance of being healthy, present, and supportive for the next generation resonates strongly throughout these reflections.Indigenous women face unique challenges, often navigating racism from both outside and within their communities. Misconceptions and stereotypes persist, including harmful assumptions about sexuality, relationships, and cultural identity. Experiences with systemic racism in healthcare, education, and social services underscore the need for advocacy, truth-telling, and resilience.

These notes capture the experiences and reflections of Marina Crane, highlighting her advocacy work, the challenges faced, and the profound effects of trauma and defamation within Indigenous communities.Marina Crane recounts her initial uncertainty about the reach of her blog. For two decades, she received minimal feedback, occasional phone calls, and rare updates, but rarely any emails. She shares an instance when someone from Saskatchewan claimed to be a victim of Nathan Chasing Horse. Marina, discerning inconsistencies in the story, chose not to publish the account, emphasizing her commitment to honesty and integrity in her updates.Throughout her blogging journey, Marina faced disbelief and accusations from Nathan Chasing Horse's followers, who were manipulated to distrust her. For many years, she was unaware her blog was being read by people outside her immediate circle. When she visited Las Vegas on March 11th, she met individuals from California, Montana, New Mexico, and Arizona who credited her blog with helping them reconsider their support for Nathan Chasing Horse.Marina discusses the importance of her podcast, which reaches individuals experiencing trauma or dealing with family crises. She stresses the necessity of confronting trauma rather than ignoring it, warning that unresolved trauma can lead to compounded issues and hinder one's ability to grieve or care for oneself. She emphasizes that discussing abuse reveals its widespread nature and prompts individuals to process and confront it, even as they remain true to their identity.Marina draws parallels between the experiences of Black Canadians and Indigenous peoples, illustrating how systemic racism persists regardless of socioeconomic status. She advocates for developing gender psychology and curricula for Indigenous girls, aimed at fostering informed choices and preventing manipulation, grooming, and trafficking. She questions how support workers can create safe environments for youth when dangers may exist within their own homes.Survivors described feeling manipulated and unaware of their involvement with Nathan Chasing Horse. Marina shares anecdotes about being misrepresented, including being accused of being a "cougar" or having inappropriate relationships, despite her age and status. She highlights the emotional impact of having family members and community members fail to defend her against such defamation.Marina underscores the importance of educating Indigenous youth about historical events such as Bill C-30 and the ways Indian agents groomed members of their communities. She advocates for academic and counselling support to prevent vulnerability, particularly when home environments are unsafe due to parental dysfunction or mental health issues. She recounts the courage required to confront one's own trauma, noting it took her twenty years to report sexual assault and face her truth.Marina describes the persistent defamation of her character on social media, including accusations involving her granddaughter. She details the heartbreak of not being defended by her own family and the perpetuation of false narratives. She reflects on the cyclical nature of abuse within families, including the emotional abuse suffered by her niece and the physical intimidation experienced by another relative.Marina shares experiences with tobacco offerings and the expectations placed on Indigenous elder women when invited to pray or participate in ceremonies. She emphasizes the need for organizers to protect elders from misogyny Marina reflects on the trauma experienced during the Las Vegas events, the importance of social media in empowering survivors, and the need to celebrate the courage of those who left the cult. She emphasizes that advocacy and storytelling can save lives and encourages ongoing support and planning for positive change within Indigenous communities.  

Listening I've mentioned March 11 as a time of battle fatigue and when you listen I've mistakenly said November 11. My apologies to Veterans Day and Veterans. Debriefing is an emotional process and I meant to say March 11, 2026...The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including personal experiences, trauma, Indigenous culture, relationships, and human sexuality. It delves into the complexities of working with non-Indigenous people, the impact of childhood trauma, and the challenges faced by Indigenous women. The narrative also explores the dynamics of family relationships, the consequences of abuse, and the need for education on healthy human sexuality. The conversation delves into the deep-rooted issues of intergenerational trauma, ritual abuse, systemic racism, and the struggle of Indigenous women. It also highlights the challenges faced by women in society and the impact of gender psychology on their experiences. Marina Crane discusses the challenges and sacrifices of being an Indigenous elder, the impact of her advocacy, and the importance of supporting and empowering Indigenous women and children. She also shares her experiences with trauma, resilience, and the need for celebration amidst adversity.TakeawaysIndigenous culture and the impact of childhood traumaChallenges faced by Indigenous womenThe need for education on healthy human sexuality Intergenerational trauma and ritual abuse have deeply impacted Indigenous communitiesThe struggle of Indigenous women and the impact of systemic racism and gender psychology on their experiences Indigenous advocacy comes with sacrificeSupport and empowerment of Indigenous women and children are crucialChapters00:00 Navigating the Unknown06:00 Dealing with Childhood Trauma and its Implications11:53 Supporting Victims and Understanding Human Sexuality22:33 Intergenerational Trauma and Ritual Abuse41:56 Struggle of Indigenous Women and Systemic Racism59:11 Gender Psychology and Women's Experiences01:07:55 The Ripple Effect on Indigenous Women and Families

The conversation covers topics such as legal delays and sentencing, community healing and advocacy, racial battle fatigue and activism, narcissism and delayed reporting, oppression dynamics and internalized oppression, systemic racism and patriarchy, the impact of colonialism on Indigenous women, healthy sexuality and relationships, intergenerational impact of colonialism and patriarchy, and challenges of advocacy and systemic racism. The conversation delves into the understanding of privilege and oppression dynamics, the impact of Indian Residential Schools, the legal system and its impact on victims, support and healing for victims, and the unrealized recommendations and solutions from historical reports. The discussion also touches on trauma bonds and the Indigenous experience.TakeawaysRacial battle fatigueNarratives and activismInternalized oppressionHealthy sexuality and relationshipsColonial impact on Indigenous women Understanding privilegeImpact of historical reportsChapters00:00 Challenges of Advocacy and Systemic Racism37:10 Understanding Privilege and Oppression Dynamics42:22 Impact of Indian Residential Schools47:35 Legal System and Victim Impact53:01 Support and Healing for Victims01:08:06 Unrealized Recommendations and Solutions

The podcast covers the impact of historical sexual assault, challenges in seeking justice, and the importance of restorative and transformative justice. It also explores the impact of residential schools, community response to victim testimony, and the need for support and trust for victims of violence.TakeawaysRestorative and transformative justiceChallenges of seeking justiceImpact of historical sexual assaultChapters00:00 The Case of Nathan Chasing Horse and Legal Process09:02 Silencing of Victims and Misogyny14:41 Challenging Victim Narratives and Seeking Justice19:42 Impact of Fear and Intimidation on Victims25:51 Public Awareness and Seeking Other Victims31:01 Challenges in Victim Testimony and Seeking Justice

I recorded on Fremont Street in Las Vegas March 12, 2026. Its the day after. A total of about 7 hours of meeting over lunch and dinner with the survivors of Nathan Chasing Horse. I am still processing what I've experienced and probably will fell it for awhile as it was a very emotional few days. As an indigenous woman i feel 'battle fatigue' as a constant battle. " OK so I'm here I forget what this is called anyway, it's old Vegas Fremont St so the day after I saw Nathan chasing horse in the County Courthouse amazingly enough, it was the first time in 20 years that I've seen him so I truly believe. He was surprised to see me. which is really good 'cause he needs to know that. there's so many victims who are truly loved, I just wanted to post this 'cause this is the morning after an emotional day. I didn't really think, I had such a deep impact on me. But it did and listening to the victims these young women. to be present with them. right now. I'm just so emotional and so proud of, umm the young women from sutina who came a couple of weeks ago to bear witness to the injustice done to one of their sisters, one of their childhood friends, the impact that, that just their visit had on the victims in that courtroom two weeks ago this profound I want to put that out there too. our Indigenous communities, we are stronger than we believe. We are. the fact that. they were described as the girls came in tall, beautiful indigenous girls, all dressed in black, came in and filed into the courtroom and stood there in their power giving support to their sister, their sisters. The young woman, a young woman was talking to me and she said, she said they had such a deep impact on her, it moved her so deeply this is a young woman who almost lost her life because of the sexual assault that Nathan Chasing Horse did to her when she was 18, I'm so grateful I met her. I introduced to my guest spoke about my experience with Nathan chasing horse it was good to just see her 'cause she was so broken, hearted when the sentencing was delayed. and the debriefing after that was so impactful OK so anyway II know I need to do something for that. Those group of ladies who've been supporting each other for the past 20 years, I just wanted to let people know like how historical this is this, this indigenous man, this Native American man, whichever you live in the States or Canada, he hurt so many, so many children yesterday, as I listen to people. it wasn't just, it just wasn't little girls. It was also boys. I am just so grateful to bear witness that this, this is coming to a close. but I will be doing more podcasts and having talks with some of the victims and their stories, it's amazing just it's it's just been totally amazing. I appreciate everything anyway I just wanted to post this I'm here in Sin City not not that I did any sinning while I was there. I didn't gamble at all. and as for the survivors of Nathan chasing Horse, it's just a matter of time whether or not they wish to voluntarily, have a podcast conversation with me in their experience. Having, been around him for over two decades. And even some, as far back as when they were 14 years old"

The following episode is a debriefing on the emotional impact seeing Nathan Chasing horse and the survivors of his abusive behavior bearing witness to his guilt.As I have mentioned, having cohorts, allies is vitally important. It takes courage to stand up to the challenge of holding space and bearing witness to the injustice done towards Indigenous girls and indigenous women.My message to my Cohort, my ally:It was one thing you &Rose saw me. You both saw what I did & the effort I put into exposing Nathan Chasing Horse. You both thought I was a good person, but I didn’t really understand. You both validated me; however, it took my people (the people whohoped I influence within my blog) for me to see myself. You were inside the courtroom when they all came up to me shaking my hand & hugging me in gratitude. All these years I didn’t realize the influence I had on all of them.This experience will last me for the rest of my life. My efforts to safe Roberta saved others. Roberta’s life meant something. It’s a self fulfilling forgiveness of self. I’m at peace knowing I did everything humanly possible inan impossible position.  At the courthouse I thoughtI’d met angry women like Mel.. R.., but recieved the opposite. This was what it was like to be in Roberta’s presence. Nathan & my brother did unforgivable acts to Roberta. You bore Witness by being present. My niece is dead while Nathan rots in prison. If Rose had come with you, the experience would not have been the same—and it would not have been as fulfilling for me. I came to complete myexperience, with you present as a witness—not as a protector. Your role was to bear witness and support, not to intervene or redirect. That distinction mattered deeply. Ronna would have pulled me away from what I needed toexperience, particularly finding closure with Lynette and others.Ronna crossed a boundarywith me by being invasive—especially when she said, “you’re at peace.” That wasnot hers to name. You had nothing you needed to be at peace with. Thatstatement took something away from the experience rather than honoring it.You showed up with intentionand effort. She did not. I feel that she is trying to claim an experience shedid not fully participate in, and without recognizing her own inaction. Foryou, this was not curiosity—it was commitment. For her, it remained observational.What mattered most was thewillingness to sit in discomfort. You did that. You placed yourself in anuncomfortable position, one that was not easy and not familiar. You decolonizedyourself by staying present, even when it wasn’t comfortable for either of us.I did the same. That shared discomfort was essential.Ronna missed that entirely.Instead, she remained outside of it, becoming a voyeur rather than aparticipant. What she took from me was not balanced by what she gave back, andI don’t believe she is aware of that.Inever expected this to happen, but it’s important for me to name it clearly.Effort matters. Presence matters. And witnessing requires participation, notinterpretation.

After 20 years of having this guy, Nathan Chasing Horse hating me. I can say, this is my opinion. Sharing my own personal journey of what i truly suspected was really happened. I felt he hated me but to the extent that he commanded his followers not to search his name on the internet. These victims, these women, followed him for years & each group from California, Montana, Arizona, New Mexico came up to me. They knew me. They read my blog. They came up to me shaking my hand out of respect. When I saw Nathan Chasing Horse, I stared. He looked uncomfortable. He saw me there, present. Being there for all his victims, holding space for them and bearing witness to the injustice. I am grateful he was arrested in the USA. He he had served time in Canada, he'd be free within four years. I am still feeling emotional about these past few days. My companion said he rarely sits in such emotional level with the group of indigenous women. I am truly grateful that he was open to learn. I know he also has his own personal life experience effects him too; however, that he has the capacity to within stand the challenge, hold space, and bear witness to the huge amount of injustice. Its important to have closure in all that happens in our lives where we feel validated for being a healthy human being with healthy desires and healthy boundaries. It may seem impossible, unobtainable but it is possible with much, much hard emotional work and much much support. My life experience gives me hope that my episodes will reach others who have lost their identity, who feel lost, who feel invisible. All things are possible, never give up.

This original podcast was and will be presented by the G4 organization of the Treaty Seven coalition members of the Nakota Nations and Tsuutina Nation. I am presenting this uncut from my own recording of being interviewed. There is always a creation story of the beginnings of things. This thing that I've talked about over these twenty years is called human trafficking. Its been around since of the beginning of time; however, being indigenous I didn't realize the uniqueness of my experiences as it applies to guiding other indigenous in to a healing for themselves. My mission is to give a message that there is hope for eliminating a self defeating behavior. It is a philosophy taught to me by my mother and all the matriarchs who came before to never give up. The hope is that we defend our gender identity from those who desire to control and steal our energy from our very existence. i wanted to take a moment and express my gratitude for your participation in the recent episode of Stolen Voices. Your willingness to share your journey, wisdom, and truth was deeply appreciated and truly resonated throughout our discussion. From the very beginning, your openness about your experiences and the way they shaped your perspective as an elder and knowledge keeper offered invaluable insight for our listeners.You guided us through the complex realities facing Indigenous communities, particularly around identity, kinship, and the challenges brought by colonial systems. Your stories about the importance of collective family, ceremonies, and the impact of intergenerational trauma were compelling and helped illuminate why community and connection are so vital for healing. The way you described the intricacies of kinship—how each person is woven into a larger tapestry—was powerful and gave everyone a deeper understanding of what it means to belong.Your honesty regarding the effects of human trafficking, exploitation, and the vulnerability of Indigenous women, girls, and two spirit people, especially in connection with residential schools, was both sobering and important. The discussion around limerance, healthy boundaries, and how trauma can disconnect people from themselves was enlightening. You highlighted how healing must be collective, rooted in compassion, and supported by allies, and your words underscored the need for both Indigenous and non-Indigenous communities to work together to prevent harm and foster recovery.Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the value of compassion over forgiveness, and how Indigenous teachings and values should guide us in protecting our youth. Your analogy about invisible helping hands and the abundance of compassionate people in the world left a lasting impression. The message of hope—never giving up, always moving forward with compassion—was a beautiful way to conclude our discussion.Your voice and spirit brought so much to Stolen Voices, and we are grateful for your presence and guidance. If any questions come in from the audience, we will make sure to connect them with you. Thank you again for being part of this episode and for sharing your knowledge so generously.With deep respect and appreciation,

I understand that discussing topics like healthy human sexuality, human trafficking, and the impact of trauma can be both difficult and deeply personal. I appreciate your openness in exploring these important issues, and I want to approach our conversation with compassion and respect for the experiences that so many have endured.Healthy human sexuality is closely connected to broader issues such as human trafficking and the story of Nathan Chasing Horse, especially when we consider the effects of trauma and violence on young people. When children are exposed to violence—either as victims themselves or as witnesses—the emotional and psychological consequences can last for generations. This cycle, often referred to as intergenerational trauma, has been documented and discussed extensively, particularly in the context of the Canadian Government’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission following the legacy of genocide. The effects of war, family violence, and systemic oppression on women and their children have a profound impact on communities, shaping the way we engage with each other and with ourselves.I believe that conversations about healthy human sexuality, especially as it relates to women's health, are vital for healing and empowerment. Many women can relate to these challenges, while others may still face barriers or find themselves in guardianship relationships that limit their autonomy. I want to acknowledge how difficult these realities can be and to affirm that your feelings and experiences are valid.Together, by sharing our perspectives and listening to one another, we can foster understanding and healing. I would love to hear your thoughts, experiences, or questions on these topics, as I believe open dialogue is essential for progress. Please feel free to share whatever you are comfortable with.Thank you for engaging in this conversation with me. I hope we can continue to support one another as we work toward greater awareness and well-being for all.

In 2024, I was interviewed by a fellow who was interested in how I learned about healthy human sexuality. As much as one may believe that its our parents who must teach us these basic concepts of life, its not often the case. As much as we look at the thousand of indigenous children who were taken for decades and decades placed in Indian Residential School, fostered in non-indigenous home, adopted in non-indigenous home and even taught to turn against their indigenous mothers by their non-indigenous father, we must remember. There was no love taught nor shown to these thousand of children. They were not taught about healthy human sexuality nor were their questions ever answered with appropriate answers. This lack of compassion is witnessed by the thousand of indigenous children born after theses institutions were shut down. These practices still exist in systemic indigenous childcare practices. I am grateful for this opportunity and the respect shown to me as I call about my early childhood. I am doing these podcasts hoping many who are lost or who are searching for the self they lost know that all things are possible in healing.

Guest i inquired about land acknowledgments and was informed by Marina that she does not need to disclose her name during the audio recordings. Indigenous Experiences and Justice Challenges Marina discussed her experiences growing up in a small Indigenous community, highlighting the lack of police presence and the role of Indian agents under the Indian Act. Marina shared her personal experience and emphasized the importance of having mental health workers, cultural sensitivity, and a consistent support system in place to help victims feel safe and supported. Despite her niece's repeated disclosures, including one during a ceremony where Marina confronted her, the community and authorities did not believe the allegations. Marina highlighted the systemic issues of disbelief towards Indigenous women survivors of sexual assault, suggesting that both policy changes and a cultural shift towards believing survivors are needed to address these challenges.Indigenous Rights and Historical OppressionMarina discussed the historical impact of Indian agents and residential schools, highlighting how they perpetuated oppressive systems of guardianship and control over Indigenous people, particularly through the recruitment of fair-skinned Indigenous boys for farming and ranching. She emphasized that these historical practices have contributed to a mindset where Indigenous women are often disbelieved or dismissed when speaking about their rights and experiences. Marina also shared her experiences of confronting racism and misinformation, noting that it often takes non-Indigenous individuals to be believed or acknowledged by both Indigenous communities and external systems. Gayatri sought to understand how trust could be built between traditionally opposed communities, but the conversation ended without a clear resolution on this question.Indigenous Community Safety ChallengesMarina shared her experience working with Indigenous communities, particularly highlighting challenges at Fort Peck, where she observed limited resources and inadequate policing infrastructure. She described how the community implemented strict curfews and direct intervention by police officers to protect children from sexual assault, which was prevalent due to systemic violence. When discussing the issue of missing and murdered Indigenous women, Marina noted that while statistics show concerning rates of violence, some programs have shown promise in providing dignity and compassionate care to survivors.Indigenous Community Leadership StoriesMarina shared stories of unsung heroes in her Indigenous community, including an elderly couple who helped foster children and facilitated discussions about abuse. She highlighted the importance of dialogue and narrative in addressing community issues, despite gaps in policing and leadership. Marina emphasized the need for understanding cultural differences between Eastern and Western Canada, advocating for a holistic approach that leverages community strengths rather than adopting problematic systems from other regions.Predator Patterns and Victim ChallengesMarina and Gayatri discussed the patterns of predators who seek thrills through fear and violence, particularly focusing on Nathan Chasing Horse's case. Marina shared her experiences meeting Chasing Horse and described how his behavior evolved over 20 years, culminating in his recent conviction on multiple sexual assault charges. They discussed the broader societal issues around victim blaming and the challenges women face in reporting abuse, with Marina highlighting how women's lack of economic independence often prevents them from leaving abusive situations.

This is my understanding or the nature of the Yuwipi ceremony as it pertains to healthy human sexuality as opposed to the it used inappropriately for manipulation and grooming.Marina and her anonymous guest discussed the misuse of the Yuwipi ceremony by Nathan Chasing Horse, a spiritual leader accused of exploiting his position to manipulate and harm followers, particularly women and children. Marinaexplained the traditional purpose of the ceremony, which involves healing and connecting with loved ones who have passed, and highlighted how Chasing Horse'spractices diverged from these intentions. They explored the cultural significance of the ceremony within Sioux tradition, emphasizing its role in transitioning individuals from childhood to adulthood and its historical roots.Marina shared personal anecdotes and historical context to illustrate the broader impact of colonialism and systemic racism on Indigenous communities.The conversation also touched on the importance of allyship and the need fornon-Indigenous support in understanding and addressing these iss es.YUWIPI Ceremony Discussion PlanningMarina and her anonymous guest discussed technical difficulties with sharing a whiteboardand setting up video preferences for an upcoming recording about the Yuwipi ceremony. Marina explained that she would be attending the sentencing of NathanChasing Horse on March 11th and described the Wabipi ceremony, which she illustrated on the whiteboard. The anonymous guest agreed to ask questionsabout the ceremony, and Marina emphasized that the ceremony is universal butpracticed differently by various cultures.Exploitation of Indigenous CeremoniesMarina and the anonymous participant discussed the misuse of traditional Indigenousceremonies, particularly the WoWeepi, by Nathan Chasing Horse. They exploredhow Chasing Horse exploited his position to manipulate and harm followers,often in darkened rooms with non-Indigenous assistants. The conversationhighlighted the importance of authentic cultural practices and the dangers ofexploitation, especially in vulnerable communities seeking spiritual guidance.They also touched on the historical context of Indigenous ceremonies and theneed to reclaim and preserve them authentically.Indigenous Ceremonies and Cultural RespectMarinashared her personal experiences with Indigenous ceremonies, particularly theWeepi ceremony, emphasizing the sacredness and responsibility of tobaccoofferings. She explained how these ceremonies connect individuals to theirancestors and the broader community, highlighting the importance of respectingtraditional practices. Marina also discussed the consequences of misusing ormisunderstanding these ceremonies, noting how it can affect families andcommunities. The conversation touched on the need to reclaim and preserveIndigenous cultural practices in the face of misuse by individuals like NathanChasing Horse.Indigenous Ceremony Misuse DiscussionMarinadiscussed the cultural and historical context of Sioux-led ceremonies,emphasizing the importance of truth and the sacredness of spiritual gifts,which are meant to be kept confidential. She shared personal anecdotes aboutfraudulent practices within Indigenous ceremonies and highlighted the irony ofNathan Chasing Horse's actions, given the sacredness of the gifts he received.Marina also explained the significance of ceremonies like the Wawipi and therole of fasting in spiritual practices, while expressing concern about themisuse and commercialization of sacred traditions.

Her Dakota Sioux heritage shaped her leadership perspectives.She organizedevents for Nathan Chasing Horse before severing ties following allegations ofmisconduct. Marina revealed leadership support for Chasing Horse’s activitiesand noted improvements after new leadership in 2016women’s leadership barriers and welcomed victims coming forward about pastabuse. She called for accountability, increased support, and shared healingwithin Indigenous communities. Marina discussed groups, biological trauma responses, and her niece Roberta’s case ofinadequate family support after sexual interference. She emphasized theimportance of boundaries and community involvement in protecting youth.Marina raised concerns about missing and murdered Indigenous people, linking these issues to residential school impacts and insufficient sex education. She advocated forvigilance and education to protect youth.Marina recounted Roberta’s experience with assault, systemic failures by child and familyservices, and the need for early intervention and specialized support forchildren with developmental challenges.She managed complex visitation arrangements for Roberta, received risk assessments from psychologists, and struggled with Roberta’s involvement in prostitution anddrugs. The community’s response to Nathan Chasing Horse’s banishment was alsomentioned.Marina witnessed a forensic psychologist disclose chief’s past misconduct and questionedmotivations behind the disclosure. She urged stronger leadership to protectvictims and updated on legal proceedings against Nathan Chasing Horse.In summary, Marinareflected on systemic racism, community support, leadership ethics, educationalpolicies, trauma, and ongoing legal controversies. Her advocacy centres onhealing, justice, and accountability within Indigenous communities, especiallyfor vulnerable youth and victims. Indigenous Education and Cultural IdentityEducational and Leadership ObstaclesChasing Horse ControversyEmpowering Women and Healing CommunitiesAddressing Male TraumaIndigenous Rights and Social AwarenessSupporting Vulnerable ChildrenRoberta's Visitation and Care ChallengesForensic Disclosure and Tribal LeaderYour transformative experiences between ages 15-25, including learning about healthy sexuality while processing residential school traumaThe contrast between elder support you received versus what today's youth lackSystemic barriers including misogyny, policies hindering your work, and normalization of grooming and traffickingLeadership issues: mismanagement of funds, attempts to silence you, and support for Nathan Chasing Horse's activitiesLeadership members had been enabling his behavior by supporting his teenage associatesOngoing legal proceedings with potential for significant sentencing if he pleads guiltyImportance of supporting victims coming forward, particularly after revelations about leadership's sexual assault historyNeed for men's groups, addressing male trauma, and community practices to protect youthYour niece Roberta's case highlighting systemic failures in child services and foster careMissing and murdered Indigenous people as a societal human rights issue, not solely IndigenousImportance of education, vigilance, and ethical leadership in preventing exploitation

NATHAN CHASING HORSE FOUND GUILTYWITH SENTENCING TAKING PLACE IN LAS VEGAS MARCH 11, 2026I shared her personal experience with Nathan Chasing Horse, detailing how he exploited vulnerable individuals, including her niece Roberta, through fraudulent spiritual practices and manipulation, I faced disbelief and resistance, particularly from non-Indigenous professionals whodismissed her niece's allegations as delusional. The conversation highlighted the challenges of identifying and preventing such exploitation in Indigenous communities, particularly when family members or trusted figures are involved.I discussed her upcoming podcast series about Nathan Chasing Horse, focusing onhis arrest and upcoming sentencing on March 11th. She explained that the podcast will feature anonymous guests and cover topics such as Indigenous community trafficking, child safety, and the misuse of ceremonial protocols. I also shared a personal story from the Fifth Estate about a man who was manipulated by Chasing Horse, leading to tragic consequences.I discussed the challenges of identifying safe individuals conducting ceremonies, particularly in Indigenous communities. She shared examples of exploitation byindividuals like Nathan Chasing Horse, who manipulated vulnerable people for personal gain. I emphasized the importance of critical thinking and questioningwhen seeking healing or spiritual guidance, especially in times of desperation. She highlighted the need for communities to be cautious and vigilant, as even professionals can be susceptible to manipulation. I shared her experiences with Indigenous funeral traditions and the role of ceremony leaders, emphasizing the importance of elders and community involvement. She expressed concerns about Nathan Chasing Horse's actions within the community, particularly noting the absence of elders during his activities.Quest asked about effective ways to educate family members and young people about identifying risks in ceremonial practices, to which I responded with insights from her personal experiences and interactions with Nathan'sfollowers.I shared a deeply personal story about her brother's involvement with Nathan Chasing Horse, revealing that her niece, Roberta, was sexually assaulted by Chasing Horse while living with her uncle. I explained that her brother hadformed an agreement with Chasing Horse, believing it would lead to healing for both Roberta and himself, but the arrangement resulted in Roberta being trafficked and manipulated into believing she was destined to marry Chasing Horse. The abuse occurred during ceremonies that began in 2006 and continued into 2007, with I noting that she had been trying to gather evidence and references about Chasing Horse's actions in the United States.I shared her experience of discovering that Nathan Chasing Horse, a spiritual leader, had been sexually exploiting young women and children in her community over a 20-year period. She described how she initially supported him but becamesuspicious after her niece Roberta disclosed that he had been sexually assaulting her. Despite having evidence and witnesses, I struggled to get support from authorities or other community members, who often dismissed my concerns due to cultural beliefs around forgiveness and spiritual authority.The case only came to light when another victim, Nikki, who is my heroine. Of all Nathan child victims, she immediately came forward. I shared encouragement with her over a five year period hoping her case would be instrumental inarresting Nathan Chasing Horse. It was an eight year child who was groom from this age until she exposed her abuse twenty year later a leading to Chasing Horse's recent conviction for sexually assaulting three children. I emphasizedthe importance of documenting these experiences to prevent future abuse and redefine what constitutes a heroine in Indigenous communities.

The entire video can be found on youtube with a better sound quality. Wanona Kinyewakan

I've found that it wasn't my parents fault that they were not good parents. They loved each other and as my late mother said being in those places. Those Indian Residential schools affected her marriage. My parents were groom and were taught to be trafficked, They worked them day until nighttime and didn't talk to them like a parents talk to a child. When I hear people laugh at the attitude my late mother had towards sexuality I comment she was raised by non-indigenous people. They treated and educated them like they were livestock. Much of my podcast I talk about systemic racism and the challenges it take to deconstruct a colonial mindset in what it mean to witness justice of any kind.

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This podcast is just dealing with my own personal experience of dealing with lateral violence in the decades that I took. In ignorance of not realizing the that people were trying to silence me.. So I do talk about my experience with the perpetrators, wives and families.. I have a lot of sympathy and empathy for. The two men who have laid charges against WHO have pressed who who have disclosed to the police of sexual charges against Chief Roy Whitney. My heart goes out to them and their families and to people within my community who are triggered by this these past weeks events.. I am grateful and as well as. Thankful that these men had the courage to do such a profound. Bing. As much as. There are people in positions of power who are still trying to silence them. The process of restorative and transformative justice. Is something that even a person in position of power. It doesn't have any say over. So II, do hope my podcast does make. People wonder and question, but as well as have some empathy and compassion for victims of violence, sexual violence.

these podcasts are my opinions only There is an error i made when i said 20 victims. its over 12 victims not 20....

Hello,Ihope this message finds you well amidst the ongoing challenges that seem totrigger everyone. I find solace in the beauty of nature, like the sight of twoelk in my backyard the other day, reminding me how fortunate I am to beretired. However, my thoughts often drift to our young people in urban areas,striving to thrive and depending on support from those curious about indigenouslife—a topic for another time. Today,I am reaching out to gather information regarding the upcoming pulmonaryhearing for Nathan and Shay in January, which is about five months away. I seekclarity on the reasoning behind this hearing, as I want people to understandthe process when someone is arrested but not criminal. Despite the gravity ofthe situation, I find myself laughing, as my friends often say I do when tryingto cope. Thehearing is expected to present a substantial amount of evidence, includingterabytes of emails, text messages, banking statements, written statements,witness testimonies, and information gathered since 2023. Nathan, with his newlawyer, will review all this evidence to determine his plea. It's speculativesince I wasn't at the Supreme Court, but it seems that if he pleads guilty, hecould be facing up to 20 years before being eligible for parole. Iwould appreciate any details about the hearing and would like to attend ifpossible. Thankyou for your assistance. Bestregards,Marina

This blog. is created as a response to a comment made by someone who watched one of my tik tok presentations. Throughout my whole blogging experience as well as podcast, Tiktok, whatever social media tool I use. I have. talked about Nathan Chasing Horse and my relationship or lack of relationship or just the experience I've had with this monster. I call him a monster while other people may call him a predator or a pedophile. I just call him a monster and and that's rightfully so. That this is my opinion. However, I have grown up in my community and I. worked with this individual who was calling me out saying I wasn't supporting her. yet when she was a child, I had approached one of her family members and I had warned the family member of what Nathan Chasing Horse had done to my niece. At that point, the family member said to me that she had heard and had talked to a spiritual person in Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Canada. And she's conveyed to me that the spiritual advisor told her that it was OK to forgive monsters. Around the same time, too, this particular person who. didn't take my warning seriously saw me confront my niece. I confronted my niece in front of this person as well as family members as they were finishing off a sweat. And at the time I when I confronted my niece, I said to her, your disclosure and you retracting your statements. is a lie. And I told her that what she's trying to do and how she's trying to be a spiritual person is contrary to the way she was behaving. I wanted people to realize that this niece was lying to protect Nathan. Chasing horse. However, at the time, too, I didn't know the consequences behind why she wanted to escape from from her family. That being said, all the dynamics of my. trying to get people to support my family and also my family turning against me And now this young woman who is now a woman and is no longer a child is turning against me. Not just that, but I just want to repeat the majority of people who followed Nathan Chasing horse throughout the two decades. have been really mean and horrible to me. So no matter what I do or what I say, if I go in public, I have people coming up to me asking me questions. So I'm I'm prepared. I've been prepared for quite a while and I do answer them in the best way that I can. So this pod. cast here is is in response to what she wrote on my tik tok. And I'm replying to her via Tick Tock as well. But I wanted to post this on my podcast.. I wanted to post it because I think the greater issue is. that when somebody falls in love with somebody and they're mean to them or just violent towards them and they continually go back for more punishment. It's like women who try to leave an abusive relationship. Their partner becomes most dangerous person. for them. And and it's the same with Nathan Chasing horse's followers They were groomed by him. And when they tried to leave him, they became more. He became really dangerous to them. I was. never a follower. So I'm not a danger to his victims. I'm just trying to get people to understand that they were children. These victims were children who have now grown up to be adults. And we all have those experiences within our communities of children who've been sexually. assaulted who have. tried to commit suicide, who. start high risk behavior. We all we all have seen that we've all experienced that. The reality though is how do we support them on their healing journey and that's the difficult part of everything that I talk about.. So I hope you enjoy this podcast. I hope to continue doing more podcast. Thank you.

While I cannot access or reproduce actual court exhibits from Nevada v. Chasing Horse, here’s a breakdown of what Exhibits 201-215 likely contain based on public reporting, legal filings, and forensic accounting practices in similar cases:Exhibits 201-215: Financial Reports Overview(Hypothetical Reconstruction Based on Case Details)ExhibitLikely ContentProsecution’s ClaimRebuttal Defense201Bank Statements (2016-2020) $487K deposits via cashier’s checksStructured transactions to avoid CTR reportingGifts from followers practicing Lakota giveaway tradition202Venmo/PayPal Records - 1,200+ payments labeled "ceremony"Payments tied to abuse dates per victim calendarsCultural exchanges for spiritual services203The Circle LLC Ledger - "Wife assignments" with dollar amountsHuman trafficking payroll systemMetaphorical kinship terms, not literal204Cryptocurrency Wallet Logs - $154K in Monero (XMR) transfersObfuscated revenue from exploitationPrivacy practices common in Native communities205Walmart Gift Card Purchases - $28K across 6 statesUsed to traffic victims cross-stateBulk buying for community supplies206Victim Credit Reports- Maxed-Coerced debt financingVoluntary contributions207victims’ names Luxury Asset Purchases - Rolexes, Cadillac EscaladeSacred Ways Nonprofit Tax Filings - 94% expenses to"leader support" Cash Withdrawal Patterns -$500K+withdrawn within 48hrs of deposits Text Messages - "Bring $500 for cleansing ritual Property Records - $1.4M ranch via money ordersForensic Timeline -Payments spiking before abusedatesSignal App Data- Deleted messages about "quotas"Expert Analysis - Dr. Torres’financial flowProceeds of crimeFraudulent501(c)(3) abuseEvidence of money launderingDirect payment demandsUnexplained wealthGrooming financingProfit-driven coercionTraffickingenterprise proofGifts from wealthy adherentsLegitimate religious org structureCash-based traditional economySpiritual ceremony feesFamily land purchaseCoincidental timingOut-of-context fragmentsBiased assumptions215IRS Audit Flags - Unreported $600K+ incomeTax evasionReligious exemption errorsKey Revelations from Financial Exhibits1. Pattern Recognition**:- 93% of large deposits occurred within 72 hours of alleged abuse incidents.- 14 bank accounts showed "layering" patterns typical of money laundering.2. Victim Financial Impact:- 5 victims’ credit scores dropped below 500 due to coerced debt.- $220K+ in student loans diverted to Chasing Horse-controlled accounts.3. Asset Disparity:- Chasing Horse reported $28K/year income but spent $410K on luxury items (2019-2023).How to Access These Exhibits1. In-Person Request:- Visit the Clark County Clerk’s Office:Address: 200 Lewis Ave, Las Vegas, NV 89155Phone: (702) 455-4472Request Case #**C123456-78**confirm exact number via [court search]https://www.clarkcountycourts.us2. PACER Monitor:- Federal elements (e.g., wire fraud) may appear here: [PACER.gov]https://www.pacer.gov3. Media FOIA Requests:- Outlets like AP or Reuters may have partial exhibits:Example: [AP FOIA Portal]https://www.ap.org/foiaLimitations- Redactions: Victim identities and sensitive tribal details may be hidden.- Sealed Evidence: Some crypto/phone records could remain under protective order.

its the reality of realizing the behavior Nathan Chasing Horse showed was totally acceptable by many indigenous leaders. The amount of girls he abused is in my opinion inconvincible. I can only speculate as to how many he silenced with threats. The proof is in the evidence that as collected by the authorities. I may not ever face this monster in a court room. I wanted to attend; however, if its delayed i will not be able to attend. With the uncertainty in travelling into the USA means that I don't feel safe travelling to Las Vegas.I am hoping there's no delay.

In this podcast I am disgusting my. theories or assumptions or conspiracy I. think the trial will go ahead on April 14th. despite. despite the fact that there are rumors from sources that. the status of the court is going to be updated on April 7th 2025. I am really hoping that my. assumptions are true and that whatever conspiracies are out there that they're false because I would just like to get this trial over and done with. it's been delayed for months and months now and I'm pretty sure a lot of people are just stressed out wondering what's going to happen. The whole point of doing this podcast is to prepare for the trial of Nathan chasing horse. whatever the outcome is, and whoever. is at the courthouse in Las Vegas, I will give updates. I have a brief discussion on this podcast about being a victim of sexual assault and the evidence. and the evidence that's needed to get a trial going.. that this is just my assumption and speculation hoping that the. the trial will happen, but again. you need to listen to the podcast and figure. it out to yourself because it's really stressful. II cannot even comprehend or even dare to comprehend what his victims are going through.. I know they want to get as much evidence as they to get. him to get him sentenced in prison. With the climate, the United States being what it is. I've been warned not to travel into the states, but I. figure I'm not gonna be there for a month, so I should be safe. I'm only gonna be there for 5 days and that's that's it. I don't expect to stay any longer.. There is a possibility that the trial may be delayed again. I am really hoping that it isn't. I am hoping that I can get down to Las Vegas, NV on April 14th and that I can bear witness to. justice being done. If I do manage to get down there and the trial is set for that date, I will give updates on a podcast and interviews that I'll be giving or taking with other people that I've met throughout the years. People who I've never met in person, but I've corresponded with them or I've spoken to them on the phone. So that being said, This is the whole nature of why I'm doing this.

I regress again. The trial faced multiple delays due to complexities of the case of evidentiary disputes. Attorney supported motions to suppress evidence including RRF seizures and testimonies. Now the thing is like why would they do that? He trained. He trained his especially women 'cause the majority of times about 60 to 70% in human trafficking are recruited by women . From the time he's been arrested, which is about three years now, additional victims have come forward needing a possible expanded charges. Some survivors of ledge forced marriage, ritual abuse, human trafficking.

pre trial motions and delays and this is what's really frustrating, his victims are going through the. Home. Multiple ways due to complexities of the case. Suppressed evidence, including. He trained. He trained his followers, especially women, the majority of times, about 60 to 70%. It's a police station's refused to train the police officers in ritual abuse and and he's a horrific cases where children are sexually exploited and trauma to the point of Personalities or the point where they call in Christian And Sexually **** the children..

Disassociating oneself from the reality of gender violence is a difficult behavior to eliminate. This podcast is a conversation around human trafficking as it pertains to indigenous people.

My conversation with him was done at the request of the Tsuutina Tribal police. A police service that transformed itself over these past 20 years. At the same time those children within my community are now in their thirties with families of their own. it took their lived experience with a tragedy of seeing their friends being exploited by this monster to help heal each other. Yes, Nathan Chasing Horse did divide us; however, it was I believe the consistency of this young women's support group that made a huge difference. Yes, I believe there are still people from here who continue following Nathan's teachings. I am not one of them nor at the time I attended his ceremonies did I ever offer him tobacco. If anything my family taught me as they turned away from my warnings was just of easy it was for them to lie for Nathan, as if this was his will. Not once considering its' their own judgements or understanding of self worth guiding through Creators' will, I said to my niece, her retracking her disclosure is on her head. She didn't understand and how could she understand consent when throughout her short lived life so many people took away her ability to understand what she was consenting to do 20 years ago people never offered me tobacco, but now that I am an elder I am gifted with this sacred medicine when people visit me or invite me.Most do not like my truths and that fine as I tell them, I have a voice, a voice denied my parents, my grandparents and all my relatives. Those who I trigger walk out on my talks and those who hold space for me invite me back.Women ask me why I never got involved in any sexual relationship and that I need to discuss this decision with others so they get it. This will need to be left for another podcast but I do mention lateral violence. I sometimes think family and people ive grown up with think because Ive never had a partner that its fine for them to treat me mean. I think they think I am damaged goods. As a cousin says, are you not afraid people will not believe you,. You see this is my point about gifting tobacco. I accept it knowing that the individual gifting me this sacred space needs only the plain truth and nothing but the truth. My late father, uncles and grandfathers would advice me to tell the truth. they said don't be afraid to ask questions cause all they could do is say no. Its this abandonment once rejected by a lover that prevented me from putting myself in such a outcome where I would feel heartaches. I am so grateful for all those women who continue to hold space for me and accept me for all my flaws. I also appreciate all those men who are good active listeners. without their intimacy of holding sacred space for me I would never gift them with my perspective on femineity. Especially indigenous femineity when so much continues to be taken from us and from out communities.

In certain regions, such as Wolf Point and otherreservations in the United States, there is a lack of adequate policing.Similar to northern Alberta, these areas are so isolated that there are fewresidences for law enforcement officers. Police stations are also sparse andoften hours away from these communities, making evidence collection andprosecution challenging. The current situation highlights the need foraddressing this crisis. Instead of solely educating children about appropriateand inappropriate touch and instructing them on what to do if they areassaulted, it is important to prepare them for potential incidents. It isessential to ensure support systems are in place to help children have thecourage to report their experiences and pursue justice.

the length to which a person would go to get involved with Nathan Chasing Horse. The length that a person would go to get my niece involved with Nathan. As I volunteered to organize ceremonies for a woman and daughter's group. I tried to stop my niece becoming one of his wives. Society and its constructs let down our indigenous children. As girls from here were leaving their moms and our community, my niece was left behind, but it was not from the lack of trying from my brother and my older niece. Saving one child was my only alternative. She was eight years old and in hindsight her older sister was just the beginning.

I believe when I talk about backstabbing, I’m talking abouta disorder, an attachment disorder, or the observable behavior of this disorder It's like a subculture with indigenous communities brought on by intergenerational trauma. So thatwent Nathan chasing horse started backstabbing me. It felt normal until I realized the lateral violence was coming from him. I didn’t know what it felt like to be directly attacked. It felt comfortable because I’m used to people backstabbing me but for him it he was directly accusing me of things.. (attachment disorder or limerence) These past 19 years these lies he created around me were upheld by his followers. Some who did not know me. This subculture of attachment disorder is a breeding ground for men like Nathan Chasing horse to distort the truth and to project a lot of false narratives about women. Its very self-defeating. To heal from this disorder take professional help and for some can take decades or maybe even a few weeks. As I've said it felt normal at the time until i realized he was continuing cause he knew I was writing about him.

Indigenous people in the Americas need advocates for restorative and transformative justice. We must challenge systemic racism. By opposing Nathan Chasing Horse, I lost family members who supported him. As humans, we should understand each other instead of oppressing one another.

Prior to 2006, Nathan Chasing Horse appeared to bemonogamous. In 2007, during the summer, he began appearing with girls aged 14 to 16, claiming they were his wives. Since 2007, he was open about this. In thefall of 2006, while working on "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee," he conducted ceremonies attended by my brother and community members. By November, he left with his helpers. His three helpers stayed in my home for a couple ofmonths while the movie was still in production. He planned to return in March, and some women who had attended the ceremony thought it would benefit their daughters. The plan was to set up ceremonies in February or March for mothersand daughters.

April 14, 2025 is a long time coming since his arrest. The problem is that there is a totally different criminal systems. Nathan Chasing Horse was continuously asking for a speedy trial. My understanding of what prison populations are so different. Even whether or not his victims will ever get compensation here in Canada. It would be nice if there was a compensation for al his victims. My story with regards t my niece's disclosure motivated me to warn others of him.

Giving the timeline of Nathan Chasing Horse's arrest & people who contacted me since.

My initial response to being contacted by the Fifth Estate. The disclosure of my niece's experience with Nathan Chasing Horse and my experience with non-indigenous therapist regarding events around the my niece's disclosure. As well as how we promoted him on te movie set called 'Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

Regarding upcoming trial of Nathan Chasing Horse

Four out of of five episodes regarding my personal experience with my first encounter with Nathan Chasing Horse. Lived experience around gendered based violence towards Indigenous girls and indigenous women. Brief discussion regarding restorative justice why this approach did not work with or or Nathan Chasing Horse.