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Dirt And Vert
by East Coast Adventures
Run, party, repeat! Welcome to the East Coast Adventures Dirt and Vert podcast, where we talk all things running, racing, and training to help you get ready for your next big adventure. Learn from our successes and our failures, and have fun at the same time. Join us right here, every week with inspiring guests who share their captivating tales from the trails. And remember, nobody cares... run faster!!
Episodes
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Leave Nothing Out There: Sarah June on Failed Expectations, True DNFs, and Finishing 247 Miles
Sarah June didn't grow up a runner. She grew up a gymnast — until doctors thought she'd broken her back and the pain took the fun out of it. After college, she traded cigarettes and late nights for running shoes: every time she craved a smoke, she went for a run instead. Her first goal was a...
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When the Brain Just Wants Skittles: Crewing Your Runner with Jason Green & Mary Cates
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, David, Matt, & Mary are joined by our good friend, fellow race director, and the creative force behind Yeti Trail Runners, Jason Green. With the first-ever joint ECA and Yeti event—the Smoky Mountain 24 Hour Challenge—just around the corner, we sit down...
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You Are Not Invincible: Joey Patoray on Near-Death Experiences and Never Settling
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert trail running podcast, we sit down with ultra runner Joey Patoray to talk about his unbelievable journey into endurance sports. If you are searching for ultramarathon motivation, mindset strategies for overcoming trauma, or tips on running 100-mile races, this...
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The Medicine from the Mountains: Leslie Cockrell on Ultrarunning, Regret, and Building True Strength
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, Matt and I sit down with an amazing runner, coach, and longtime friend of East Coast Adventures: Leslie Cockrell. We first met Leslie back at the 2023 Fort Frenzy 12-hour, and since then, she has been an absolute fixture in our running community. Leslie...
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Suffer to Honor: Brian Baker on Firefighting, Faith, and the Last Man Standing
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, David & Matt sit down with an absolute grinder, good friend, and recent champion of the Inkom Last Man Standing: Brian Baker. Brian opens up about the road that brought him into this sport. After a devastating 2021 ATV accident on his family farm broke...
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Listening When Your Body Speaks: Keith Overbay on A Collapsed Lung, 100-Milers, and Problem Solving
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, Matt and I sit down with a longtime friend in the Southeast trail community, and two-time No Business 100 finisher, Keith Overbay. Keith’s journey is one a lot of us can relate to—starting out in his 30s to get back into shape after a divorce, finding…
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Grit, Grace, and the Cherokee: Taylor Williams on Facing the Unknown
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, David & Matt sit down with fellow East Coast Adventures running team member, athlete, and coach Taylor Williams. Taylor shares her unfiltered story of stepping into the ultra world, from running her first 50K at Firewater to tackling one of the most...
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Running as Life: Aaron Saft on Misogis, 200-Milers, and Failing Forward
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, Mike and I sit down with legendary ultra runner, coach, podcaster, and former race director Aaron Saft. Aaron called in live from his truck while towing his camper across the country to prepare for the Rocky Mountain Slam—giving us an authentic,...
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Two-Time Cherokee Ultra 130K Double Buckle Finisher: Aden Rogers on Suffering and Moving Forward
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, we sit down with two-time Cherokee Ultra 130K finisher Aden Rogers. Aden is one of only four runners to earn the coveted Cherokee double buckle, and her story from this year's race is a masterclass in relentless forward progress. Aden breaks down her...
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Allowing Pain and Joy to Coexist: Kristen Soinski on Overcoming Grief Through Ultras
In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, get ready for a one-on-one conversation with a runner who has been absolutely lighting up the ultra scene over the last couple of years—Kristen Soinski. Fresh off the Chasing Democracy 250—a massive 250-mile journey run from the Statue of Liberty to...
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100 Miles a Month: Josh LaCrone’s Blueprint for Constant Grind
This week on the Dirt & Vert Podcast, Matt and I are sitting down with a runner who has been on an absolute, unhinged hot streak lately: Josh LaCrone. Josh is a paramedic, a dad, and the reigning course record holder at our very own Fort Frenzy, where he threw down a massive 113.15 miles on a...
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No Cheerleaders, No Crew: Cody Taylor on the Unhinged Reality of Unsupported FKTs
This week on the Dirt & Vert Podcast we have a guest who is redefining what it means to go the distance—Cody Taylor. Cody’s path is wild: he went from being a touring, major-label new metal drummer to a full-time endurance athlete and coach. If you think a standard 100-mile race is tough, try...
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The Murder Mile Masterclass: Aaron Dana & Eric Kienle on the Mid-State Mile
We are just two weeks out from Father's Day weekend, and that means it's time for a family reunion at the notorious Mid-State Mile in Franklin, Tennessee. To get our runners mentally locked in, we sit down with two legendary champions who know exactly what it takes to survive the "murder mile":...
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Accept Defeat & Take A Seat: Harvey Lewis and Mark Dowdle Face Tennessee's Brutal Mid-State Mile
This week on the Dirt & Vert Podcast, we are bringing you a heavy-hitting episode packed with prestige, mindset, and some serious backyard ultra strategy. Hosts David and Matt are joined by two of the absolute animals on the USA Backyard Ultra team: the legendary Harvey Lewis and the powerhouse...
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Build and Event with Heart: How to Start Your First 5k/10k
We get a lot of questions about how to get into race directing, how to host fundraisers for charity, and what it actually takes to put on your very first 5K or 10K. In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, David, Matt, and Mike Taylor break it all down into a simple, high-level roadmap. We…
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Desert Dust & No Rules: The Speed Project with Whitney & Peter
What happens when a group of six runners—some of whom just met—piles into an RV to run 340 miles through the desert? Whitney Dancaster and Peter Haggemeier take us inside their recent journey through The Speed Project. In this episode, we learn how the team navigated the "OG Route," alternating...
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10 Hours Faster: Rachel Entrekin Improving at Cocodona 250 and a Story About Icy Hot....
What does it look like to have 107 races and 104 trophies? For Rachel Entrekin, it looks like a duffel bag full of hardware under the bed and a life recently transformed by professional running contracts. In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, we sit down with Rachel to discuss her…
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From High-Stress to High-Performance: Sierra DeGroff’s Life Pivo
What happens when you trade the high-stress world of Tesla for a career in Sales Engineering? For Sierra DeGroff, it meant finding the mental space to become one of the most dominant forces in the ultra-running community. In this episode of the Dirt & Vert Podcast, we sit down with the 2026…
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10,000 Feet of Humility: Kirk Cherep on Knobstone and Trail Golf
Most ultra runners encounter their toughest moments when the race pushes them to the limit—and Kirk Cherep’s story is no different. From a lightning-fast win in his first ultra to a heartbreaking DNF at the grueling No Business 100, Kirk’s journey is a vivid reminder that in this sport, humility…
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Killing the Death March: How Jeremy Bohnett Smashed His 100-Mile Best
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we welcome back Jeremy Bohnett, the Co-Founder of Hyperlyte Liquid Performance, fresh off a massive podium finish and a new Personal Best at the Run Love It 100. Jeremy takes us inside the race where everything finally "clicked." We break down the specific...
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The Appalachian Trail Reset: Katie’s Path to Mental Clarity & Finding Ultras
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are sitting down with Katie, an athlete whose endurance resume is as diverse as it is impressive. From the structured intensity of collegiate rowing and professional triathlons to the rugged freedom of the Appalachian Trail, Katie has seen it all. We…
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A Decade in the Making: Dusty Jameson’s 10-Year Sub-3 Quest
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are talking about the long game. We sit down with Dusty Jameson to discuss his incredible decade-long pursuit of the "Holy Grail" for many marathoners: the sub-3 hour finish. Dusty wasn't a natural-born runner—in fact, he started out hating it. He takes…
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The Fastest 100 Mile Woman on Earth: Ashley Paulson on Breaking the World Record
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are joined by a woman who literally rewrote the history books: Ashley Paulson. Ashley recently stunned the running world by setting the 100-mile World Record, and in this episode, she pulls back the curtain on how she did it. We move past the…
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Finding Meaning in the Miles: Jason Bailey’s Path to The Barkley Marathons
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are entering the "Yellow Gate." We’re sitting down with Jason Bailey to deconstruct his journey from the local trails to the most elusive race on the planet: The Barkley Marathons. Jason takes us behind the scenes of Frozen Head State Park, detailing the...
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Heat, Heart, and Multi-Day Miles: Meg Eckert Never Stops Running
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are joined by one of the most versatile and high-performing athletes in the ultra world: Meg Eckert. Meg is a force to be reckoned with, whether she’s running circles at Desert Solstice, tackling the furnace of Badwater 135, or preparing for the 250-mile...
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The Step Challenge That Sparked a Monster: Becca Joyner's Origin Story
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are joined by the incredible Becca Joyner—ultra runner, course record holder, and a powerhouse who balances three boys and multiple jobs while crushing miles. Becca takes us through her evolution from a workplace step challenge to setting the course…
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From Trail Miles to High Carbs: The Hyperlyte Story with Co-Founder Jeremy Bohnett
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we’re joined by Jeremy Bohnett, the co-founder of Hyperlyte Liquid Performance. Jeremy’s journey is a fascinating transition from the world of long-distance thru-hiking to the high-intensity realm of 100-mile ultra-marathons. We dive into the "why" behind...
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Redefining Possible: Ashley Pipkin on Finding Her Strength in the Dirt
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we sit down with the newly crowned MAD Backyard Ultra Course Record Holder, Ashley Pipkin! Ashley's story is the ultimate proof that you don't need to be a "lifelong athlete" to dominate the ultra scene. She takes us through her transformation from a...
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The Therapy of the Trail: Why Maggie Guterl Always Comes Back to Running
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we are joined by a true legend of the ultra world: Maggie Guterl. From her humble beginnings in Philly to becoming a Team USA standout and the first woman to win the Big’s Backyard Ultra outright, Maggie’s journey is one of pure grit and constant evolution....
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Simplifying the Suffer: Brian Abadia’s Mission to Fix Ultra Nutrition @ Fooster
🚨 SPECIAL OFFER: Brian is giving all Dirt & Vert listeners 10% OFF the entire store at thefooster.com!Use code: DIRT10 at checkout or click here to shop now! This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we sit down with Brian Abadia, the founder of Fooster. Brian’s journey is a powerful look at how a...
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The OG Trio Returns: Christmas Miles & 2026 Dreams
The OG trio is finally back together! This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, David, Matt, and Mike reunite for a special Christmas run to close out the year and look ahead to an massive 2026. We’re revealing our 2026 Bucket List Races, including big goals for the Cruel Jewel 50 and the No…
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Burritos, Big Miles, and The Yeti x ECA Collab: New Events in 2026
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, David and Matt are dropping some massive announcements that will shape the next two years of trail running in the Southeast! We are officially announcing a heavy-hitting collaboration with Yeti Trail Runners for a brand-new race in Sevierville, and giving…
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Saving the Scene: Why Kayla Fitzgerald Stepped into Race Directing Directing
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we’re joined by Kayla Fitzgerald, the force behind Palmetto Ultras, whose journey from "hating running" to directing unique endurance events is a masterclass in mental strength and community building. Kayla gets real about how running started as a rare…
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Angels, Ultras, and Hallucinations: The John Calabrese Story
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with John Calabrese, an ultra runner whose journey proves that sometimes, the hardest parts of life lead you straight to the starting line! John opens up about how personal struggles, including a divorce, fueled his passion and led...
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Burn the Boats: Ashlie's Epic Pinhoti FKT Adventure
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to welcome the incredible Ashlie! Her story is proof that hard work, meticulous planning, and a little bit of community magic can lead to extraordinary achievements. Ashlie takes us behind the scenes of her monumental achievement: setting the...
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Coyote Ugly Racing: Mariah Fields' Passion for Trails
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're joining forces with the dynamic Mariah Fields, a remarkable ultra runner who now leads the pack as Race Director for Coyote Ugly Racing! Mariah takes us on her incredible journey, starting from battling exercise-induced asthma in middle school to...
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Young, Fast, and Unfiltered: Hans Troyer's Ultra Ascent
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're sitting down with an emerging ultra phenom, Hans Troyer! His journey is a testament to raw talent, resilience, and the power of setting audacious goals. Hans takes us from his days dreaming of football and basketball to finding his true calling on the...
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Trail Tales: Overcoming Challenges and Celebrating Victories
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, your hosts David and Matt are pulling back the curtain on the tough lessons and big wins from their latest ultra adventures! We're diving straight into the deep end, starting with the Yeti 100, where David faced down some serious health issues and learned,...
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The Desire to Finish: Mike Taylor's Lesson in Willpower
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to have a familiar voice and a cornerstone of our community: Mike Taylor, co-founder of East Coast Adventures! Mike takes us through his deeply personal and inspiring journey, from his early days in sports to the unexpected moment he dove...
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Running Wild: The Adventures of Richard Abernathy & Dirty Wolf Racing
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with Richard Abernathy, an avid ultra runner and the visionary Race Director behind Dirty Wolf Racing! Richard takes us on his incredible journey, which started with a simple competition and evolved into a deep passion for the trails. We…
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Chasing Dreams: Lauren's Journey to Team USA
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with Lauren, a remarkable ultra runner whose story is a masterclass in resilience and grit. Lauren shares her incredible journey from battling a broken ankle to achieving the ultimate dream: qualifying for Team USA! We dive deep…
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Running for Hope: April Bailey's Journey from Loss to the Finding Ultras
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the remarkable April Bailey, a former basketball player who found her true calling on the trails and went on to become the first-place female and overall winner of the 2025 Yeti 100! April shares her powerful and deeply personal…
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The Endurance Artist: Jared Beasley And The Journey with Laz
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're diving into a world of grit, genius, and a little bit of madness with Jared Beasley, a runner and writer who knows a thing or two about chasing demons on the trails. Jared takes us on his incredible journey from a troubled past to finding his purpose...
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Grit and Glory: Katti Jackson's Ultra Running Adventures
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the incredible Katti Jackson, an ultra runner whose journey is a masterclass in resilience and grit. She's coming off an epic run where she won and set the course record at The Cherokee 70K! Katti's story is proof that you don't need...
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Endurance and Faith: Sarah Baker's Appalachian Tale
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the remarkable Sarah Baker, an ultra runner whose journey on the Appalachian Trail is a powerful testament to resilience, self-discovery, and the unwavering belief in oneself. Sarah shares her raw and honest story, revealing the…
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Every Runner is a Legend: Jason Green's YETI Blueprint for a Welcoming Ultra World
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with a true legend in the ultra running community, Jason Green from the Yeti Trail Runners! Jason takes us on a deep dive into the heart of the sport, from his own personal journey into ultra running to the wild evolution of the…
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Altitude & Attitude: Andy Glaze on Ultras & A Book in the Making
He's back! This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down once again with the one and only ultra runner, Andy Glaze. And let me tell you, he’s been busy! Andy takes us on a wild ride through his latest adventures, from the mind-bending Cocoa Monster to the epic Arizona Monster...
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Finding Your Fire: Audrey Carter's Story of Records, Resilience, and Running with Heart
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're lacing up with the remarkable Audrey Carter, an accomplished ultra runner from the East Coast Adventures team whose story is all about finding her fire on the trails. She's coming off two incredible podium finishes at The Cherokee Ultra 70K and Fort...
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The Queen of the South: Crystal Wheatley's Journey to Sobriety and Endurance Running
This week on the Dirt and Vert Podcast, we're honored to sit down with the incredible Crystal Wheatley, "Queen of the South," and ultrarunner whose journey is a powerful story of resilience, redemption, and the transformative power of running. Crystal shares her path from being a competitive 5K...
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The Humbling of a Champion: Addison Hendricks' Story of Disqualification & Redemption
In this conversation, Addison Hendricks shares his journey as an ultra runner, detailing his early beginnings in running, the challenges he faces with nutrition and recovery, and the mental toughness required for endurance sports. He reflects on memorable race experiences, the lessons learned…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Run, party, repeat! Welcome to the East Coast Adventures Dirt and Vert podcast, where we talk all things running, racing, and training to help you get ready for your next big adventure. Learn from our successes and our failures, and have fun at the same time. Join us right here, every week with inspiring guests who share their captivating tales from the trails. And remember, nobody cares... run faster!!
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East Coast Adventures
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Run, party, repeat! Welcome to the East Coast Adventures Dirt and Vert podcast, where we talk all things running, racing, and training to help you get ready for your next big adventure. Learn from our successes and our failures, and have fun at the same time. Join us right here, every week with...
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