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Keep Going
by Michael Krajicek & Steve Sisson
Two guys - a shoe designer & a coach - talk shit about running, mostly. This podcast is our therapy & fills a critical need for human conversation in our lives. Welcome along for the ride.
Episodes
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The oyo.run Project
Hello, it's Steve Sisson, recording this in March of 2026. As you've probably guessed, this podcast has been retired — but I'm excited to share what's coming next. It's called oyo.run, & the focus is simple: self-coaching. Taking ownership of your running experience — as you should have been…
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Weaponize The Love: A Chicago Marathon '25 Debrief
Welocome back to the Keep Going podcast. In this one-off episode, your hosts debrief Michael's recent Chicago Marathon experience, as well as how the "training by feel" experiment worked. We hope you enjoy & Godspeed!
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Coda: Haunting Town Lake
The final planned episode of the Keep Going podcast is a running homage to Town Lake & Austin, Texas. We've enjoyed being on this ride with all of you. We'll see you down the road. Godspeed, my friends, godspeed.
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Godspeed: The End of the Road
The (second to) last episode of the Keep Going podcast. In this final conversation, we talk about why this the end, for now. & what we've loved about these conversations. Godspeed, my friends, godspeed.
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The Dance: Analytic Assessment of a Long Run Session
This episode breaks down an iconic & specific key session in the Telos Running marathon program as Michael prepares for the 2025 Chicago Marathon. The Dance is a marathon specific session that, on paper, looks like the following: 2M warm-up 6 sets of 2M at Marathon Goal Pace w/ 1M Float...
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For the Sake of the Run: Running & the Human Condition
In this episode of the Keep Going podcast, your hosts talk about running's special gifts, many of which are not recognized or valued by the wider running culture. This leads up to one of our favorite artist's least catchy, most deep songs: For The Sake Of The Song by Townes van Zandt. We spend…
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Don't Drink The Water: DMB, Politics & the Racing Question
In this wide ranging episode we trace how being the best at what you do can play into a beautiful life. Dave Matthews Band, politics & if racing is dying off are the framing points but where we end up is being excellent is a personal journey.
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Riffs 02: Performance, Progress, Pain & Breaking 4
We hit another four quick takes this week & we relate much of this to the idea of training by feel. We also talk about the Breaking 4 performance before the event happens. Performance: what is the optimal time of day to train? Progress: when do we know we are fit? Pain: varieties of pain Breaking 4
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Trusting Your Gut: An Atreyu Story
In this very special episode, Michael shares his Atreyu journey. Having recently announced that Atreyu would not be continuing to produce shoes & would be shutting down at the end of 2025, Steve asks Michael some questions about his Atreyu journey. This episode is not the whole story, by any...
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Riffs 01: Waterstops, Hunger, Race Fitness Indicators, Rain.
Welcome to Riffs! In this experimental episode in which we unpack four distinct topics in 10-15 minute segments instead of one topic over an hour. The Riff topics are: Waterstops Hunger Race Day Fitness Indicators Rain If you like this format, please send us a few topics/concepts that you'd like…
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Run To The Hills: The Super Power of Hills
In this episode Michael calls Steve out on his administration of hilly routes for easy long runs. We talk about hills, easy running & how hills can become your superpower. Godspeed, friends, godspeed. Note the inclusion of the fantastic Iron Maiden song, Run To The Hills from the classic album…
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Raging Against the Machine
An extended conversation/diatribe on the value of growth & Late Western Capitalism. We loosely pull in running in a few places but this is definitely way of the beaten path. There does seem to be something in the air, relative to the unhappiness many of feel about the current state of the world:...
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An Invitation for the Training By Feel Project
An invitation to join the experimental Training By Feel Project which will follow an approach of training by feel for any race between 5K & a marathon this fall. If you are interested reach out to me directly at sisson at telosrunning dot com. Also, we are looking for listener input on topics for...
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An Experiment: Running By Feel Project
This is the initial exploration of an experiment we are planning for this fall. Listen along & look for the next episode - a solo one by Steve unpacking & presenting the project more concretely. Reach out if if you have any questions: sisson at telosrunning dot com. Godspeed, my friends, godspeed.
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Liminal Running (Part II): Soul-Style Revisited
Even though we didn't plan this episode to link up so well with the last one (see Ep 88: Liminal Running (Part I): Breaking Frames), it just does. A continued bending of the tariffs impact on Atreyu & Michael's livelihood with one of Steve's major philosophical positions, soul-style. We really...
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Liminal Running (Part I): Breaking Frames
Man, this podcast is so fucking cool. I mean, it certainly is an acquired taste - like nattō or Limburger cheese or Mr Twit's Odious Ale - but when it hits, it hits. This episode (88) should be paired with the next episode (89, duh) in terms of full on Keep Going. We sense we are getting into...
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A Mouthful of Ginger: Bukowski, AI & Tariffs
A little musical prelude where we talk about Dan Reeder, Ted Lucas & Charles Bukowski before we wander back into the AI discourse on our way to what beauty & art mean in our current crazy world. Steve asks Michael about these damn tariffs & we all get a great education on the struggles &…
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Trying Not To Tri: The Benefits of Cross Training
Cross training is always a fruitful topic & one we haven't really explored together on this podcast. Michael makes his arguments for why cycling & swimming are really optimal cross training options for the serious runner. We also discuss the longterm potential of this podcast, take a listener's...
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High, Low & In Between: Why Do We Run?
Of of our heroes is the late, great Townes van Zandt & this episode is named after one of his great albums. In this episode we loop back to the ideas of running as Practice & running as Pursuit that we unpacked many months ago.
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Running Trends We'd Like To See
Note: If you tried to listen to this early on Monday, March 10th, we'd uploaded a repeat of last week's episode. This has been corrected. If you downloaded it prior to our correction, you may need to refresh to get the actual episode. Sorry for any confusion. Your intrepid hosts were completely...
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Reality is Fucked but Running is Magic
Shit is gettin weird around here, y'all. & fair warning: Steve gets really riled up on this one. & drops lots & lots of f-bombs. It's helpful to remind you that this is just a conversation between friends. If you take this episode's title at face value, you may be a bit confused for the first…
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The Mind/Body as Instrument
Please be patient in listening to this episode, friends. We take a little while to get rolling on our topic but we think its worth your time & listening investment. ichael & Steve use the analogy of playing a musical instrument for how we might approach our body/mind experience in running. As...
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Is Expertise an Antidote to the Attention Economy?
While this was entirely unintended, this episode feels like a part two of last week's discussion. This one leans into the struggles we both feel about this late capitalist, social media saturated attention economy as entrepreneurs & "experts" in our respective fields. What would happen if it all...
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Training When Not Training: Groups, Goals & Growth
A deep dive into training with a group & what training even is anyway. Is "Everything is Training" really true? What about when you aren't in a series training mode? How do you process not having a goal race staring right down your face? In this episode we cover a lot of ground but we stay...
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A Running Kōan: Listening to the Body
We dive into a favorite topic of Steve's: listening to your body. Along the way we discuss the Japanese kōan, guitar pedals, old school running magazines, book collecting, etc. In this episode, Steve mentioned that he has an online lecture series created in 2020 that he was willing to offer. If…
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The Marathon is NOT Good for Your Health: Varieties of Racing Experiences
Appreciation of the radio, early Genesis & Keep Going Radio kick this episode off but our main topic is on the importance of racing various race distances for all runners. We cover how training for & racing different race distances is incredibly beneficial for all runners. We hope you enjoy this...
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Death, etc: Desire, Change & the Bardos
We start with Steve's experience of the "Fuck You Beer" & move into much more important matters like Michael's discontinuing of Atreyu's iconic Base Model. We recorded this episode on December 12, 2024. It seems important to mention this at the outset of this episode. There is a lot of early...
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A Vending Machine on Mars: Exploring The Artist Archetype
"Aspiration without attachment." - Michael Please join us in a discursive, yet oddly flowing conversation exploring the paradoxes around being an Artist. For more on Michael's analogy of "a vending machine on Mars" see below, curated from the Atreyu Running's newsletter that you should be...
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Liminal Racing: Ways of Revisioning Running
Neither of your two intrepid co-hosts planned to continue to explore, analyze & interrogate "the race experience", but here we are. The past few months have followed Michael's preparation & execution for the 2024 Detroit Marathon & we covered significant prep/debrief in episodes 71 & 72. Then in...
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What's New In Running? A 2024 Industry Report
This episode is released as The Running Event (TRE) - an annual trade conference for the running industry - is in full swing in our hometown of Austin, Texas. As a provocation, I asked Micheal the question "What's New In Running?" thinking we might just skate along the surface. Instead, Michael...
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All The Feels: The Importance of the Felt-Sense
What is the felt-sense? How important is it for runners to be conversant & skilled in the varieties of the feeling states we encounter in our running practice & pursuit? While this episode only scratches the surface on this topic, it does try to grapple with what we feel is a critically…
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A Race Debrief Session: Detroit Marathon 2024
In part two of our race series discussion around Michael's Detroit Marathon performance, we debrief his experience. Surprises ensue, respect is gained. Godspeed my friends, godspeed. As mentioned in the short intro, check out THIS REALLY COOL RACE VIDEO Michael made documenting his race…
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Creating A Race Plan: Detroit Marathon 2024
Consider the first of a two part series on the Detroit Marathon 2024. Michael & Steve create a race strategy for Michael's Detroit Marathon run from scratch in this episode & in the one well release tomorrow, we'll debrief the race itself. Godspeed!
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Flat Earth, Immune Systems & the Danger of Monoculture
This conversation goes a thousand different directions. If you need a little help in determining if you want to join us on this crazy ride based on the topics we cover, here are a few: flat earth theory, running monoculture, the mind as immune system, recovery, failure/mistakes are required,...
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The Taper
The taper is the least discussed aspect of a runner's training plan that causes the most distress in the 2-3 weeks before a command performance race. Michael & Steve break it all down in this episode. Godspeed, y'all!
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The Beauty of Life & Running
A conversation exploring beauty & how it plays into our experiences of running.
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Love Portals: The Psychology of Running
In this episode of the Keep Going podcast, Michael & I discuss the psychology of running.
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The Mysteries of Racing Strategy: Practice That Shit Now!
In this episode we trace many of the mistakes that an athlete makes at the midpoint of their training for a big command performance. Ostensibly, it is about dialing your strategies in way before race day: pacing for your race, dialing a specific strategy, fine tuning nutrition, getting your shit...
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Rhythm & Pattern: Curiosity & Creativity in Training
We finally take a break from all the track & field talk & get back to talking training. Michael has been following the telos Running training model in preparation for his upcoming marathon in Detroit. In this episode we catch back up with his training progress, answer some questions & do what we...
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🏁Track Geeks Unite! 🏁 - The Olympic Are Halfway Through
Halfway through the Olympic Games, Michael continues to reflect on his track & field education. We reflect on our experiences as fans during the amazing Paris Olympics. This episode was recorded on August 8th, about halfway through the Olympics T&F events. We know we are risking a little overkill...
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Track & Field Is A Complete Shitshow - Olympic Trials/Pre-Games Discussion
Definitely a provocative title, but true to how a new fan has experienced this compressed tutoring in the sport. This episode was recorded way back in early July, post-Olympic Trials & Pre-Olympics. For certain this is outdated discussion but we still feel like its interesting listening for those...
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Dangerous Decisions: Mileage, Phases & Doubles
You can't get strong & fast at the same time. -Steve Sisson A mistake many runners make at some point in their running career is breaking the rule above. This episode covers the dangers of ramping up mileage while in the specific phase of a training plan. Steve describes the phases that he uses…
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The Olympic Trials: The First Half
This is a special episode discussing/analyzing the first half of the Olympic Trials this past week in Eugene. The Women's 800m Final Video The Women's 5000m Final Video The Men's 1500m Final The Men's 10,000m Final
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Training Data for Runners: A Conversation with Coros' Darian Allberry
In this special edition of Keep Going, Michael & Steve interview Darian Allberry, Head of User Experience or "Product Translator" at Coros. They discuss smartwatches, GPS & data & their uses in our training experience.
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Training As Transformation
This episode ends up being a continuation of last week's discussion around the important aspects any runner should be considering when starting a training plan. We covered so much ground last week but it felt to us that there were still things we needed to address. Every runner who embarks on a...
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🎶Start At The Very Beginning…🎶
Last time around we covered the essentials of a quality session. This time around we attempt to cover what to consider when starting a training cycle. Jury is out on whether we succeed or not. What we most certainly do is get our rant on. Steve pops off all over the goddamn place. Trigger…
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Form Ever Follows Function: Crafting Quality Workouts
What makes a workout something other than just a run? In this training deep dive, Michael & Steve describe the architecture of a workout. The two categories we use are form & function - following the famous quote of Louis Sullivan: "Form ever follow function." The full quote is pretty cool,...
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The Exquisite Suck: Processing Challenging Races
In essence a Part II of episode 54 - The Privilege, in this episode we unpack Michael’s IM Woodlands race experience. We cover how we can think through race results that go wrong & so much more.
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How To Become A Track Fan: The Women's 10,000m & 5000m
The Women's 10K/5K History The 10K wasn't even added into the WC or Olympics until 1988. Again, the domination by the East African countries, especially Ethiopia & Kenya has been total. I'll mention Ingrid Kristiansen, a Norwegian badass in the 80's who revolutionized the women's 5000/10,000…
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The Privilege: Meditations on Racing
Where we start with X - & weak sauce social media takes, move into Michael's pre-race thoughts around IRONMAN Texas on April 27th (no pressure, dude!) & finish with privilege of celebrating the human experience of training & racing. Hot takes on Death, predictive processing, & the recent Kara...
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What is Keep Going about?
Two guys - a shoe designer & a coach - talk shit about running, mostly. This podcast is our therapy & fills a critical need for human conversation in our lives. Welcome along for the ride.
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Keep Going is created and hosted by Michael Krajicek & Steve Sisson.
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