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Listing Bits
by Greg Robertson
Greg Robertson, co-founder of W+R Studios and publisher of Vendor Alley, talks real estate tech with the people who are shaping it.
Episodes
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The Buyer Side of the MLS with Dan Cooper
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Dan Cooper, founder of Gitcha and the Buyer Listing Service (BLS), to talk about his path from spec-home builder to real estate broker to proptech founder. They dig into why Dan built…
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Santanu Barua from VestaPlus: Why your Next MLS Won't Look Like Today's
The Listing Bits podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson talks with Santanu Barua, CTO of Vesta Plus, the tech platform owned by the Combined LA/Westside MLS (CLAW), about his path into MLS tech, the Checkmate compliance product, and VestaPlus's approach…
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Katrina Romatowski: Rethinking Homeownership for the Next Generation with reSpace
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Katrina Romatowski, founder and CEO of reSpace, to discuss a new approach to housing affordability through co-homeownership. Drawing on nearly three decades in real estate…
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Fixing Home Affordability One Room at a Time With Atticus LeBlanc of PadSplit
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Atticus LeBlanc, founder and CEO of PadSplit, to discuss the affordable housing crisis and how room-by-room rentals can create housing opportunities for people who are priced out of...
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Brian Boero on Storytelling, Signal, and What Comes Next for MLS
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Brian Boero of 1000Watt to talk about the current state of organized real estate, the future of the MLS, AI's impact on SaaS and marketing, and why writing and storytelling still…
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From Pixels to Property Intelligence with Dominik Pogorzelski
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson is joined by Dominik Pogorzelski from Restb.ai to discuss the evolution of AI in real estate—from early photo tagging to large-scale property intelligence. They cover how AI is now embedded in MLS...
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Brian Tepfer: How PropStream Turns Data Into Deals
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson interviews Brian Tepfer, CEO of PropStream, about his journey from tech support at Rapatoni to leading a major proptech data platform. The conversation explores how PropStream turns public record…
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From Fashion to PropTech: Lauren Martin on Housing and Community
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson is joined by Lauren Martin (RentSpree) for a wide-ranging conversation covering her unconventional path from fashion design to PropTech, the growing importance of rentals within the MLS ecosystem…
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Rethinking Ownership: Brett Humphrey on Co-Owning Homes
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Brett Humphrey, founder of Joynt, to discuss a new approach to housing affordability through co-ownership. Brett shares his background as a longtime software developer and…
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Killing the Copy-Paste: MLS Data Meets Canva
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson sits down with Marcus Brown, founder of MLS Pipeline. Marcus shares his path from real estate agent to solo software founder, discussing how frustrations with lead...
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Inside Editora: Julie Drazen's No-Fluff Approach to Real Estate Video
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Julie Drazen, founder of Editora, to talk about her background in film and commercial editing and how that experience led to building a fast, opinionated video-editing platform for…
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Remine, Refocused with Joe Kazzoun, CEO of Remine.
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Joe Kazzoun, CEO of Remine, for a wide-ranging conversation on real estate technology, forms, MLS dynamics, and Remine's path forward under new ownership. Joe walks through his career...
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Running a home grown MLS with Annie Ives
The Listing Bits Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg sits down with returning guest Annie Ives, CEO of CLAW/The MLS™, to discuss major industry changes following NAR policy shifts, the rise of MLS-only memberships, exclusive-listing strategies, and the rapid...
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Getting rid of the grey with Amy Gorce of REdistribute
This Listing Bits episode is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Greg Robertson sits down with industry veteran Amy Gorce of REdistribute to clarify what REdistribute actually does, how it differs from display-focused data platforms, and why MLSs should care about the…
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Live from Toronto with Michael Wurzer, CEO of FBS
Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Michael Wurzer, CEO of FBS (Flexmls), right after CMLS 2025 in Toronto. They reflect on the state of the MLS industry, FBS's growth and culture, and how AI, standards, and industry consolidation are shaping the future of organized real estate. Key Takeaways...
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Andy Taylor and Greg Fischer of RetroRate - Assumable loan discovery
Overview Greg Robertson sits down with Andy Taylor and Greg Fischer from RetroRate to discuss assumable loans and their potential to reshape real estate transactions. They explore the history and career paths of both founders, the challenges of discoverability in MLSs, and how RetroRate aims to...
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Rich LaRue of Homesmart
In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson sits down with Rich LaRue, Designated Broker for HomeSmart Arizona and VP of Corporate Brokerages for HomeSmart's Western region. Rich shares his background in real estate, thoughts on exclusive listings and MLS rules, and his perspective on the...
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Revive co-founder, Dalip Jaggi, shares his journey
In this episode of the Listing Bits Podcast, Greg Robertson sits down with Dalip Jaggi, co-founder of Revive, to discuss his entrepreneurial journey and how Revive is helping homeowners maximize the value of their properties. Dalip shares how his early background in tech led him to real estate…
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RentSpree, housing, and Michael Lucarelli's journey to proptech success.
Greg Robertson sits down with Michael Lucarelli, CEO and co-founder of RentSpree, to explore how RentSpree streamlines rental transactions for agents, landlords, and tenants. They discuss RentSpree's growth, integration with MLSs and Associations, the role of rentals in agent business, and the...
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AI and compliance with Todd Carpenter of Styldod
In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson sits down with Todd Carpenter, SVP of Industry Relations at Styldod, to talk about the evolution of real estate technology—from mortgage lead gen to photo AI. They dive deep into how Styldod uses artificial intelligence to help agents with virtual...
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Meet Ben Kinney, the new owner of Remine
In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson sits down with Ben Kinney, CEO and co-founder of Place, to talk about Place's acquisition of Remine, how Ben built his PropTech empire from the ground up, and what's next for the platform. Ben shares his personal journey from growing up in rural...
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The Amazing Annie Ives
🎙️ Listing Bits Episode: The Amazing Annie Ives Host: Greg Robertson Guest: Annie Ives, CEO of The MLS™ / VestaPlus Duration: ~40 min 👋 Episode Summary: In this episode, Greg sits down with Annie Ives, a true titan in the world of organized real estate. From her early days immigrating from...
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Brian Donnellan and the future of cooperation
🎙️ Listing Bits: Brian Donnellan, CEO of Bright MLS Host: Greg Robertson Guest: Brian Donnellan, CEO of Bright MLS Episode Summary: Greg sits down with Bright MLS CEO Brian Donnellan for a candid conversation about leadership, music, and the shifting dynamics in real estate. They dive into…
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A floor plan with every listing
In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson is joined by Megan McFarlane from New Mexico MLS and Jeff Allen from CubiCasa to discuss the growing importance of floor plans in real estate listings. They dive into why New Mexico MLS has taken the bold step of requiring floor plans on every...
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Building Real Estate Technology: The Story of Real Geeks with Kevin McCarthy
Episode Summary: In this episode, Greg Robertson talks with Kevin McCarthy, co-founder and CEO of Real Geeks, about his journey from a small-town tech enthusiast to creating a leading real estate technology company. Kevin shares insights into Real Geeks' origins, its evolution, and how its...
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Listing Bits Podcast: The Front-endless MLS System with Carlos Grass and Paul Hethmon of Amplify
Overview: Greg Robertson sits down with Carlos Grass and Paul Hethmon, co-founders of Amplify, to discuss their innovative "front-endless" MLS backend platform. This episode highlights Amplify's unique approach to creating a flexible, adaptable MLS backend designed to empower MLSs with greater...
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Listing Bits Podcast: Austin Allison, CEO of Pacaso
Overview: In this episode, Greg Robertson chats with Austin Allison, CEO of Pacaso, about his entrepreneurial journey in real estate, starting with Dotloop and transitioning to his current venture, Pacaso. The discussion covers lessons learned from his early career, how Pacaso is revolutionizing...
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A working agent's perspective on the current state of organized real estate- Maggie Etheridge, REALTOR.
I sat down with a long-time friend and former business partner, Maggie Etheridge. Maggie was one of my co-founders at IRIS, a real estate software company we started back in 1992. She is a second-generation real estate agent. Maggie's mom, Martie, was the inspiration for starting a software…
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Real estate data, myths and cowboy boots with Kevin Shtofman of Cherre
Listing Bits is back with a great guest, Kevin Shtofman, Global Head of Innovation at Cherre. Cherre is a global real estate data management platform. Kevin is from Texas and comes from a very entrepreneurial family that owned retail stores selling western wear, including honest-to-goodness…
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Dan Fortin of Lone Wolf Technologies on designing a proper Foundation
Dan Fortin was one of my favorite people I met working at Lone Wolf. He came over from the Instanet acquisition and has had a front-row seat to see big changes in the industry. From Lone Wolf acquiring 8 companies, 5 of them in less than 9 months, to the challenges of being a forms company during...
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Listing Bits Episode 91: Tether RE, keeping Agents Safe
What do Willie Nelson and keeping real estate agents safe have in common? You will have to listen to this great conversation with Tether RE founder Scott Martin to find out. Did you know that in 2020 60,000 real estate agents reported being victims of assault, sexual abuse, robbery or were…
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Listing Bits Episode 90: Upgrading Client Engagement with HŌM
I hope you enjoy this great conversation with the co-founders of HŌM, Jeff Zakrzewski and Nhan Vo. In a wide ranging conversation we discuss their orgin story. Where they came up for the idea of their app and the struggles of going to market with a real estate software solution. If you are new...
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Listing Bits Episode 89: Kelly Robinson, an MLS pioneer comes back for more
"Hotel California", is one of the phrases people attribute to the organized real estate industry, "you can can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave". Kelly Robinson is an industry pioneer in that she co-founded a software company, Realty Plus Online, that created one of the first...
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Listing Bits Episode 88: Does NAR Have Value Beyond MLS Access? – with Michael Lissack of The Virtual Realty Group
The verdict against NAR in the Sitzer lawsuit has organized real estate up in arms. But Michael Lissack thinks the decision is the best thing to happen to the industry in 100 years. In fact, he sees the trade association as a criminal enterprise with little value beyond MLS access. Michael is...
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Listing Bits Episode 87: Ben Graboske's Big Bet
In 2020 Ben knew they needed to make a change. So he went to the Black Knight board and made a pitch, "give me the resources to build a modern MLS system". To his surprise, they said yes. Now, 3 years later, that dream has been realized. His dream was a mobile-first MLS platform that understands...
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Listing Bits Episode 85: A Less, But Better Approach to Real Estate Software Design – with Damien Huze of Lone Wolf Technologies
Listing Bits EP085: A Less, But Better Approach to Real Estate Software Design – with Damien Huze of Lone Wolf Technologies Among Dieter Rams' Ten Principles of Design is the idea that good design is as little design as possible. Less, but better. And Damien Huze believes that the next evolution…
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Listing Bits Episode 86: A Deal Tracker Built for Agents – with Vijay Gopalswamy of Trackxi
In 2021, Vijay Gopalswamy's real estate business was growing like gangbusters. And at one point, he had 32 active transactions. Which meant Vijay was spending every morning with his team, going over each transaction and asking, 'Did you send this? Did you follow up with that? Did this contract…
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Listing Bits Episode 83: Revolutionizing Member Engagement for MLSs + Associations – with Nick Gough of NoteRouter
MLSs and associations face an issue Nick Gough refers to as RDR, an acronym for REALTORS don't read. So, what can these organizations do to communicate more effectively with the members they serve? Nick is Founder and CEO at NoteRouter, the all-in-one email and texting platform designed to help...
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Listing Bits EP081: Building Proptech for Real Estate Teams – with Brian Charlesworth of Sisu
Teams are the future of real estate. And one proptech vendor is capitalizing on this trend by helping team leaders run an effective business. What's more, most of the teams on his platform double their business every year—even in the current market. Brian Charlesworth is Founder and CEO of Sisu…
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Listing Bits EP080: Does 'Your Listing, Your Lead' Jive with IDX Attribution Policy? – with Michael Wurzer, Greg Fischer & Andy Woolley
Two years ago, NAR policy was updated to give brokers and agents attribution rights, meaning they get to decide how they appear in listings. But Homes.com employs a 'your listing, your lead' model, displaying the listing agent's contact information. So, does this comply with NAR's attribution...
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Listing Bits Podcast: Elevating Women in Real Estate – with Lauren Martin of RentSpree
Lauren Martin began her career in the fashion industry to be among powerful women. But when she transitioned to proptech, she realized that real estate is the true pinnacle of girl power. And yet, women are not always represented in leadership. So, when she landed her current role as Senior…
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LIsting Bits Podcast: Pooling Resources & Expertise Among MLSs – with Betsy Hanson of Markt
From a vendor's perspective, small MLSs are the most challenging to work with. And that's no surprise, seeing as how they have fewer resources than the big players in the space. So, how do we support MLSs with fewer than 400 members in keeping up with NAR rules, for example? Is there a way MLSs...
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Listing Bits Episode 77: Using Showing Data to Guide Decision making with Wes Hartman of Showingly
Most showing management software aggregates data. But how useful is it to get a report at the end of the month? What if the data was presented in a way that helped agents answer seller questions in real time and make informed choices based on the numbers? Wes Hartman is CEO of Showingly, a…
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Turn Your Clients into Lifelong Fans – with Rivers Pearce of Milestones
A solid fan base is what makes a rock band successful, and it's no different for real estate professionals. But most of us focus on the individual transaction and miss an opportunity to build long-term relationships with our existing clients and turn them into raving fans. And that means missed...
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Listing Bits Episode 75: Get Your Time Back with Automated Webinars – with Melissa Kwan of eWebinar
Listing Bits is back! If your role in real estate involves sales demos or any kind of training, you're likely familiar with the frustration of delivering the same webinar over and over again. Or worse, preparing a webinar that is either poorly attended or no one shows up. But what if you could do...
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Listing Bits Episode 74: Zillow's One Data Source Solution for MLSs – with Katie Smithson of Bridge Interactive
NAR's MLS Policy Statement 8.6 goes into effect on September 1, 2022. So, what tools are available to make the implementation of the new One Data Source Policy easier for MLSs? Katie Smithson is Director of MLS Relations at Zillow Group, where she leads the team building their MLS data licensing...
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Listing Bits Podcast Episode 73: A New Business Model for the MLS – with Colette Stevenson of REsides
What if it was easy for an MLS to raise money to develop the data services it needs and run the software its customers use? Colette Stevenson is CEO of REsides, the premier MLS in South Carolina. Formerly known as Hilton Head MLS, REsides serves REALTORS who represent properties in both South...
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Listing Bits Episode 72: Floor Plan Tech for Desktop Appraisals – with Jeff Allen of CubiCasa
Approximately 8 million appraisals were conducted in the US last year. By contrast, there are only 40,000 active real estate appraisers. So, it's no surprise that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are exploring appraisal modernization initiatives like the desktop appraisal option. But to make these...
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Greg Robertson, co-founder of W+R Studios and publisher of Vendor Alley, talks real estate tech with the people who are shaping it.
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