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Power House

The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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  1. 405

    Deepfakes, deed fraud and the new risks of homeownership

    Fraud isn’t just a closing risk. It’s a housing affordability problem. On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Chris Morton, CEO of American Land Title Association, to unpack the growing threat of wire fraud, deed fraud, seller impersonation and AI-powered scams—and the costs those risks ultimately create for homeowners and lenders. Morton also weighs in on Fannie Mae’s title insurance waiver efforts, why refinances aren’t necessarily as low-risk as they appear, and the work title professionals do behind the scenes to protect property rights and transactions. As AI makes fraud increasingly sophisticated, the conversation explores an emerging arms race between technology and human judgment—and why secure transactions are fundamental to making homeownership sustainable and affordable. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Chris Morton's LinkedIn American Land Title Association Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  2. 404

    Abdel Khawatmi pt. 2. Systems create scale. Relationships create the business.

    In Part 2, Abdel Khawatmi moves beyond the technology and explains what he’s ultimately building with it: a business that creates more room for relationships. From more than 700 YouTube videos and 250 podcast episodes to hyper-local market updates, Abdel explains how consistency became a competitive advantage. He also breaks down what he refuses to delegate, his PROF framework for originators and why direct communication with clients and referral partners remains firmly in his hands. The conversation ultimately becomes less about AI and more about scale: building teams, developing other producers and creating a culture where technology handles more of the work without removing the human relationships that actually drive the business. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Abdel Khawatmi’s LinkedIn PRMG Got Mortgages Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  3. 403

    The modern originator: Inside Abdel Khawatmi’s AI-powered mortgage business

    Abdel Khawatmi left personal injury law for mortgage after experiencing firsthand how poor communication can derail the homebuying experience. Eight years later, he’s built a high-producing business around the opposite idea: educate relentlessly, communicate clearly and stay close to the client. In Part 1, Abdel breaks down his “Six Cs of Conversion Tracking” and explains why conversations—not leads, rates or even content—may be the most overlooked part of an originator’s business. He also opens up his AI stack, showing how he records and analyzes client conversations, improves scripts and uses tools like ChatGPT, Claude, Fireflies and NotebookLM to become a better originator and partner. This isn’t AI for novelty’s sake. It’s a look inside how one producer is using technology to systematically get better at the human side of mortgage. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Abdel Khawatmi's LinkedIn PRMG Got Mortgages Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  4. 402

    Building influence: Paul Gigliotti on leadership, innovation and mortgage’s future

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Paul Gigliotti, CEO of the California MBA, for a conversation about leadership, adaptability and what it takes to help move the mortgage industry forward. Gigliotti has built a career that spans mortgage, technology and industry advocacy, giving him a perspective that extends well beyond any single corner of the business. He discusses how strong leaders evolve, why innovation is ultimately about people rather than technology, and the responsibility industry leaders have to create opportunities for the people coming behind them. The conversation also explores the importance of staying curious in a business that never stops changing, and why the ability to bring people together around new ideas may be one of the most valuable leadership skills in housing today. Make sure to stick around until the end: Zeb and Paul have a special announcement about an upcoming collaboration. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Paul Gigliotti's LinkedIn California MBA Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  5. 401

    Clayton Collins: What leaders are still getting wrong about AI

    The AI conversation in housing has changed. The question is no longer whether the technology works—it’s what leaders do with it now. Fresh off HousingWire’s AI Summit, Zeb Lowe sits down with HousingWire CEO Clayton Collins to unpack that shift. They discuss lenders using AI to drive down origination costs, builders transforming how they identify land, and executives now managing everything from token utilization to AI governance and implementation. But Collins argues the biggest change has to happen at the leadership level. AI can’t be another technology initiative delegated down the organization. It requires CEOs to rethink workflows, costs and talent—and determine where automation can create more room for the human work that actually drives the business. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Clayton Collins' LinkedIn HousingWire's AI Summit 2026 Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  6. 400

    Devin Norales: Can we create more homeowners without creating more risk?

    How do you expand access to homeownership without taking on more risk? On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Devin Norales, Head of Mortgage and Capital Markets at FICO, to discuss the future of credit scoring and why represents one of the biggest shifts in mortgage lending in decades. Norales explains how trended credit data and rental payment history can provide a more complete picture of borrowers, improving predictive accuracy while responsibly expanding credit access, particularly for first-time homebuyers. The conversation also explores the rental reporting gap, financial literacy and why credit modernization isn't just about better models, but better outcomes for borrowers, lenders and the housing market. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Devin Norales' LinkedIn FICO® Score 10T Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  7. 399

    The architecture of happiness: Why some homes just feel right

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with architect and researcher Ann Sussman to explore a provocative idea: many modern homes and neighborhoods are fundamentally out of sync with human biology. Drawing on neuroscience, architecture and urban design, Ann explains why our brains are wired for faces, detail, walkable environments, and how blank facades, oversized roads and car-centric development can quietly contribute to stress, isolation and disconnection. From Disneyland's Main Street to Amsterdam and Nantucket, the conversation explores why some places feel instantly welcoming while others never quite do. If you build, finance, design or sell housing, this episode may permanently change how you see the built environment. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Ann Sussman's LinkedIn theHAPI.org Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  8. 398

    The efficiency trap: Why faster doesn't always mean better

    Does making something more efficient always make it cheaper? On this solo episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe explores the Jevons paradox—the idea that making something cheaper and easier to use often leads to more demand, not less. From fuel-efficient cars and air conditioning to artificial intelligence, history shows that efficiency doesn't necessarily reduce consumption—it expands it. Zeb applies that same framework to housing and mortgage, examining how AI, automation and digital lending may increase loan volume, accelerate transactions and reshape the industry in ways few people are discussing. The question isn't whether efficiency is good. It's what happens after it succeeds. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  9. 397

    Why clean data beats cool AI tools with Constellation HomeBuilder Systems

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Paolo Benzan, VP of Data Strategy at Constellation HomeBuilder Systems and Rich Swier, founder of raia AI, to discuss why the future of home building won't be determined by who adopts AI first, but by who builds the strongest data foundation. The conversation explores the hidden work behind successful AI initiatives, from data quality and governance to cost control and security. Benzan and Swier explain why clean, connected data is the real competitive advantage and how builders can use AI to move beyond static reports and make faster, smarter decisions. Their message is clear: AI isn't replacing expertise — it amplifies organizations that have done the hard work to prepare for it. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Paolo Benzan's LinkedIn Rich Swier's LinkedIn Constellation HomeBuilder Systems raia AI Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  10. 396

    Otis Odell on the human side of housing

    What if the future of housing isn't just about building more homes, but building better ones? Crazy idea, right? On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Otis Odell, National Housing Sector Leader at HED, to discuss how thoughtful design shapes well-being, community and the way people experience home. Drawing on a career that spans carpentry, custom homebuilding and national housing design, Odell explains why details like natural light, outdoor space and flexible layouts can have an outsized impact on quality of life. The conversation also explores modular construction, affordability and why solving today's housing challenges will require rethinking not just how many homes we build, but how we design and deliver them. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Otis Odell HED Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  11. 395

    Chaos is not a strategy: Larry Bailey on workflow governance

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb sits down with Larry Bailey from Mortgage Workflow Partners, who began his career as a loan processor in 1993 and now champions a simple but disruptive idea: “workflow before technology.”  Bailey argues that most mortgage and real estate organizations have invested heavily in software and AI without first understanding how work actually gets done. Rather than improving efficiency, new technology is often layered onto disorganized processes because workflows were never clearly documented or owned. The conversation digs into how sales-led leadership shapes this reality. In lending, top leaders rise through sales, where adaptability is rewarded, but workflow is often overlooked. As a result, that critical knowledge resides with individuals rather than in documented processes. Bailey explains that workflow interviews quickly reveal the difference between employees eager to improve operations and those who rely on tribal knowledge to protect their value. Bailey defines workflow governance as documenting processes, assigning clear business ownership and continuously maintaining them as the organization evolves. He shares examples of large lenders where every branch operated differently, creating inefficiencies and making leadership nearly impossible. His approach establishes a standardized best-practice workflow while allowing teams flexibility beyond the core process if they choose. Looking ahead, Bailey believes technology alone will not reduce production costs or burnout. Despite years of investment, the cost per loan remains stubbornly high because organizations continue automating broken processes. Sustainable improvement comes from understanding the work first, then using that visibility to determine where technology belongs, what should be automated and how employees can focus on higher-value activities instead of repetitive tasks. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Larry Bailey's LinkedIn Mortgage Workflow Partners Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  12. 394

    AI won’t replace LOs, but it will redefine them

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Baron Silverstein, President of Newrez, to discuss how one of the nation’s largest mortgage companies is reinventing itself for the AI era. Silverstein shares how Newrez is using artificial intelligence to improve underwriting, servicing and the overall homeowner experience—while keeping human expertise at the center of every decision. The conversation also explores technology adoption, AI governance, crypto in mortgage lending and why the companies that learn to use AI effectively—not just adopt it—will define the next generation of housing. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Baron Silverstein's LinkedIn Newrez Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  13. 393

    The unlikely solution to help solve the housing crisis

    What if solving America’s housing shortage means moving beyond the way homes have traditionally been built? In Part 2 of their conversation, Zeb Lowe and Brian Hurd explore the housing models, construction methods and financing approaches that could reshape the next generation of homeownership. Brian explains why manufactured and modular housing deserve a more serious look, how factory-built homes have changed far beyond their outdated reputation, and why better financing options could bring attainable homeownership within reach for millions more Americans. The discussion covers land-lease communities, modular construction, off-site manufacturing and the role technology can play in reducing construction timelines and expanding housing supply. Brian also shares practical guidance for loan officers who want to earn lasting builder relationships, making the case that curiosity, consistency and partnership matter more than any sales pitch. The episode closes with Brian’s view of what the next decade could hold for American housing — and why meaningful progress will depend on builders, lenders, Realtors, local governments and communities working toward the same goal. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Brian Hurd’s LinkedIn Cardinal Financial Company, Limited Partnership Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  14. 392

    Brian Hurd: Why the housing crisis is bigger than interest rates

    The housing affordability crisis is not just an interest-rate problem. It is the result of decades of choices that have made it harder, slower and more expensive to build the homes America needs. In Part 1 of this conversation, Zeb Lowe sits down with Brian Hurd, senior vice president of national builder strategy at Cardinal Financial, to examine the forces reshaping American housing. Brian shares how his path from construction sites to mortgage leadership gave him a ground-level understanding of the builder business — and why that perspective still shapes the way he works with lenders, developers and housing professionals today. The conversation moves beyond rates and loan products to the structural pressures facing the market: rising material costs, labor shortages, zoning constraints, shrinking affordability and the widening gap between what buyers can afford and what builders can profitably deliver. Brian also explains the critical distinction between affordable housing and attainable housing. Solving the missing-middle problem, he argues, will require more than new programs or lower rates. It will require builders, lenders and policymakers to reconsider how homes are designed, financed and brought to market. For anyone in mortgage, real estate, construction or housing policy, this episode offers a clear-eyed look at why homeownership has become harder to reach — and what needs to change. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Brian Hurd's LinkedIn Cardinal Financial Company, Limited Partnership Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  15. 391

    James Wong: The branding mistakes holding you back

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with James Wong, CEO of MAXA Designs, to explore a deceptively simple question: What actually makes a brand matter? For an industry obsessed with logos, colors and marketing campaigns, Wong argues that branding has very little to do with design alone. The strongest brands aren’t built on aesthetics—they’re built on trust. They make a clear promise, deliver on it consistently and create a story people remember. Wong shares how an early project helping real estate agents unexpectedly launched his career and revealed a pattern among top producers: long before personal branding became fashionable, the best agents understood that visibility and trust compound over time. The conversation breaks down why so many mortgage and real estate professionals misunderstand branding, how companies can define a brand beyond visuals, and why storytelling and consistency remain the most powerful competitive advantages in a crowded market. Wong also shares lessons from the Exhibit Awards, the national branding competition he created, and what separates award-winning organizations from the ones that struggle to stand out. The discussion concludes with AI’s growing role in marketing and why technology won’t replace great brands—it will amplify them. The companies that win the next decade won’t be the loudest. They’ll be the clearest, most consistent and most trusted. Related to this episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ James Wong's LinkedIn MAXA Designs Exhibit Awards Book a demo with MAXA Designs Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  16. 390

    Why Fifth Third Bank expanded when others pulled back

    What happens when a bank decides to invest in mortgage while much of the industry is pulling back? On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with James Sias, Head of Mortgage Lending and Indirect Dealer Services at Fifth Third Bank, to discuss leadership, growth and the long-term future of mortgage lending. The discussion also tackles the broader forces shaping mortgage today—from Basel III capital requirements and regulatory policy to the role customer relationships play in a large banking environment. Throughout the conversation, Sias argues that sustainable growth comes from staying focused on the customer, investing through market cycles and creating an environment where loan officers can succeed. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ James Sias' LinkedIn Fifth Third Bank Want more from Zeb? Don’t forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  17. 389

    Why this housing market feels different

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with mortgage veteran Joey Hansen to discuss what it takes to build a lasting career through multiple housing cycles. Drawing on more than two decades in the business, Hansen shares lessons from navigating changing markets, evolving borrower behavior and shifting industry dynamics. The conversation explores affordability challenges, the lock-in effect and why many consumers remain overly focused on interest rates while missing the bigger financial picture. Hansen also reflects on a major career move after 12 years with the same company, discussing the realities of rebuilding relationships, evaluating support systems and stepping into a new leadership role. Throughout the conversation, she emphasizes a simple but powerful theme: markets change, but trust, education and consistent client guidance never go out of style. For loan officers and housing professionals trying to navigate today’s market, Hansen offers a practical perspective shaped by experience, adaptability and a long-term view of success. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Joey Hansen's LinkedIn Huntington National Bank Want more from Zeb? Don't forget to subscribe to LendingLife. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  18. 388

    The independence problem: Rethinking senior housing transitions

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Simone Kelly, founder of Seniornicity, to discuss one of housing’s most overlooked challenges: helping seniors navigate the later stages of homeownership. Drawing on experience across mortgage, real estate and senior services, Kelly explains why many older homeowners aren’t staying put because they refuse to move—they’re staying because the alternatives are complex, emotional and overwhelming. The conversation explores aging in place, reverse mortgages, caregiving and the growing opportunity for housing professionals willing to serve an aging population. Kelly argues that success in this space isn’t about generating leads. It’s about building trust, relationships and support systems that help families navigate major life transitions. In an industry increasingly focused on speed and automation, she makes the case for a more human approach. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Simone Kelly's LinkedIn Seniornicity The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  19. 387

    From attention to intention: Adam O’Daniel on the future of mortgage marketing

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Adam O’Daniel of Guild Mortgage to discuss one of the defining challenges facing housing professionals today: building trust in an era where information is everywhere and credibility is harder to earn than ever. Drawing from recent consumer research, O’Daniel explains why younger buyers increasingly trust friends, family, online communities and digital content more than traditional financial institutions. For lenders and real estate professionals, that shift changes the game. Trust is no longer inherited through a logo or brand name—it must be built through education, transparency and consistent value. The conversation explores the transition from the attention economy to the intention economy, where AI-powered search and recommendation tools are reshaping how consumers find information. Rather than competing for clicks, O’Daniel argues that professionals should focus on becoming the most helpful answer when consumers actively seek guidance. That means creating educational content, answering real questions and building a digital presence that establishes expertise over time. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Adam O'Daniel's LinkedIn Guild Mortgage The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  20. 386

    Everything you need to know about housing economics but were afraid to ask

    In this solo Power House episode, Zeb Lowe delivers an overview of housing economics built specifically for the professionals working inside the industry every day. Framing the conversation around a simple idea — that housing professionals are expected to be experts without ever being formally taught how the market truly works — Zeb breaks down the core economic concepts that separate good operators from elite ones. The episode spends significant time on the psychology driving today’s market, particularly the way buyers remain anchored to pandemic-era 3% mortgage rates that were never historically normal. Zeb explains why professionals who can contextualize the market (rather than simply repeat headlines) become indispensable advisors to clients navigating uncertainty. He also pushes back on some of the industry’s most persistent myths, including the inevitability of another 2008-style crash, the belief that buyers need 20% down, and the assumption that waiting for lower rates will automatically create better affordability. Throughout the episode, the central theme remains clear: America’s housing shortage is still the defining force shaping affordability, pricing and transaction activity. Ultimately, Zeb makes the case that market fluency is no longer optional. In an environment flooded with national headlines, misinformation and economic noise, the professionals who understand local data, behavioral trends and long-term supply dynamics will be the ones clients trust most. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  21. 385

    Bob Hart: Inside ICE’s vision for the future of mortgage technology

    LIVE from the New York Stock Exchange, Diego Sanchez talks with Bob Hart about how Intercontinental Exchange is modernizing mortgage infrastructure through AI, cybersecurity and connected loan technology. Hart explains that ICE’s experience digitizing markets like the New York Stock Exchange gives the company a strong foundation for improving efficiency and transparency in mortgage lending, which still relies heavily on paper-based processes. He also discusses the company’s cautious but aggressive approach to AI — using automation to improve workflows while maintaining compliance and human oversight in critical parts of the lending process. The conversation also focuses on ICE’s push to connect origination and servicing through platforms like Encompass and technology gained from the Black Knight acquisition, creating a more seamless borrower experience from application through servicing. Looking ahead, Hart says ICE’s growth strategy centers on AI investment, operational efficiency and building a more connected mortgage ecosystem. Related to the episode: ⁠Diego Sanchez’ LinkedIn Bob Hart's LinkedIn ICE Mortgage Technology The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  22. 384

    Coby Hakalir: Credit Scores, chaos and the future of mortgage lending

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with longtime mortgage executive, consultant and podcast host Coby Hakalir for a candid conversation about one of the housing industry’s most contentious topics: credit reporting, FICO scoring and the future of mortgage regulation. The discussion centers around his viral op-ed challenging the current mortgage credit ecosystem and questioning whether the industry has become too defensive of legacy systems at the expense of competition and innovation. Zeb and Coby unpack rising credit report costs, the role of the FHFA, unintended consequences of regulation and why loan officers need a deeper understanding of the systems shaping borrower outcomes. The conversation also explores misinformation in today’s market, the importance of industry engagement and why difficult cycles often reveal which professionals are truly committed to evolving with the business. At its core, this episode is about challenging assumptions, questioning entrenched systems and asking what a smarter, more competitive mortgage industry could actually look like. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Coby Hakalir's LinkedIn Opinion: FICO, the 3Bs: Fruit from a rotten tree. Here’s how we fix It. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  23. 383

    Stephen Butler: The mortgage industry’s AI reality check

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with AI and enterprise software executive Stephen to discuss where artificial intelligence is actually headed in mortgage lending beyond the hype cycle. Stephen explains why the industry is shifting from flashy AI promises to practical implementation, with the real opportunity centered around augmenting teams, improving workflows, and scaling production more efficiently. The conversation also explores why mortgage tech adoption has historically struggled, and why change management — not technology itself — remains one of the industry’s biggest obstacles. Zeb and Stephen also dive into interoperability challenges, clean data infrastructure, AI drift, and how artificial intelligence could reshape staffing models, lender consolidation, and loan cycle times over the next several years. At its core, this episode is about a simple reality: the lenders investing in AI infrastructure and adoption today may define the next era of mortgage lending. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Stephen Butler's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  24. 382

    Steve Ozonian on AI, Rocket’s big bet and the future of housing

    On this episode of Power House, Diego Sanchez sits down with Steve Ozonian for a wide-ranging conversation about the future of housing, mortgage, title, and proptech. Drawing on decades of leadership experience across companies like LendingTree, loanDepot, and Williston Financial Group, Ozonian explains why AI and data will shape the next era of real estate — while warning that fragmented infrastructure remains one of the industry’s biggest obstacles. The discussion explores Rocket Companies’ expansion strategy, MLS fragmentation, private listings, fraud risks, and the growing importance of title companies in an increasingly digital environment. Ozonian also shares his perspective on leadership, succession planning, and why local agents still hold enormous influence despite rapid technological change. This episode is about the next phase of housing: combining technology, AI, and trusted human relationships into a more connected consumer experience. Related to the episode: Diego Sanchez’ LinkedIn Steve Ozonian's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  25. 381

    Carter Malloy: Why better land data is the foundation of better housing supply

    On this sponsored episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Carter Malloy to discuss why better land data may be one of the most important and overlooked pieces of solving the housing supply crisis. Malloy explains how his experience in land investing exposed a major industry problem: builders, developers, and investors were still making massive decisions using fragmented systems, outdated information, and hyper-local knowledge. That challenge eventually led to the creation of Acres, a platform designed to bring transparency, speed, and intelligence to land acquisition and development. The conversation explores how better visibility into zoning, infrastructure, ownership, and growth patterns can help bring housing to market more efficiently. Malloy also breaks down the difference between AI hype and AI that actually creates operational value, arguing that the real opportunity lies in combining high-quality geospatial data with intelligent systems capable of analyzing land-use variables at scale. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ Carter Malloy's LinkedIn Acres The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  26. 380

    PennyMac’s mortgage playbook and how to scale over time

    LIVE from Austin, Texas at The Gathering, this conversation with David Spector, Chairman and CEO of PennyMac, is all about timing, scale, and playing the long game in a consolidating mortgage market. Spector walks through the company’s pivot from a purely organic growth mindset to a strategic acquisition of Cenlar—not as a change in philosophy, but as a response to reality. Building subservicing from scratch would’ve taken years. Buying scale? Immediate impact. The move accelerates PennyMac’s position in servicing while setting the stage for deeper investment in technology. But this isn’t just an M&A story—it’s a culture story. Spector makes it clear: deals don’t fail because of numbers, they fail because of people. His approach flips the script—don’t force culture down, build alignment across. Integration, in his view, is about listening, not dictating. Zoom out, and the bigger strategy comes into focus: convergence. Production and servicing are no longer separate lanes—they’re one ecosystem. That’s why PennyMac is physically consolidating teams (like in Dallas) and operationally aligning around recapture—owning the customer relationship from first loan to refinance. And then there’s AI. Not hype—execution. Spector is pushing a decentralized model where business leaders own efficiency, supported by embedded AI talent. No “big bang” transformation—just constant iteration: build, deploy, refine. Over and over. Through it all, the thesis is simple: in a market where margins are tight and capacity is high, efficiency wins. PennyMac isn’t betting on rates to save the business—they’re building a model that works no matter where rates go. Related to the episode: ⁠Diego Sanchez' LinkedIn ⁠David Spector's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  27. 379

    Are we there yet? The end of innovation in mortgage and real estate

    In this solo episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe explores the possibility that housing is moving out of the innovation era and into the predictive turn. For years, the industry has focused on speed, automation, and better user experience. But perhaps the next real competitive advantage is no longer innovation. It’s calibration. In a business built on forecasts, probabilities, and expectations, the professionals who win will be the ones whose instruments are closest to reality. The episode explores why housing has always been a prediction business, how AI is changing the way borrowers gather information, and why human interpretation matters more than ever in high-stakes financial decisions. Zeb also offers practical guidance for loan officers, agents, and executives looking to improve forecast accuracy, communicate uncertainty more clearly, and build trust in a market increasingly shaped by predictive tools. At its core, this episode is about a simple idea: in the next phase of housing, accuracy will matter more than speed. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ AI Visibility Workbook The Dane Cook window: How to win the AI land grab (Apple) The Dane Cook window: How to win the AI land grab (Spotify) The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  28. 378

    Educate, Empower, Elevate: Laura Brandao’s Leadership Blueprint

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Laura Brandao to discuss the mindset, habits, and leadership principles that help mortgage professionals win in any market cycle. Brandao shares the philosophy that shaped much of her career growth: saying yes to opportunities before the full path is clear. She explains why curiosity, momentum, and adaptability are critical in an industry where conditions can change quickly. The conversation also explores the daily disciplines behind long-term success — structured routines, consistent communication, and building cultures centered on education, trust, and accountability. From recruiting and team development to leadership at scale, Brandao offers practical insight for professionals looking to grow their influence and build something that lasts. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Laura Brandao's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  29. 377

    The business of access: LaTasha Waddy on leadership, the future of NFM, and inclusive lending

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with LaTasha Waddy to discuss leadership, homeownership, and the future of mortgage lending. Waddy shares her path from real estate law to leading NFM Lending, and why her first priority as president has been listening to the people closest to the work. She also discusses Lucas Home Loans, a mission-driven effort focused on expanding access to homeownership through lending, education, and technology. The conversation explores why financial literacy may be a bigger barrier than credit access, the difference between mentorship and sponsorship, and how lenders must become more intentional about attracting the next generation of talent. This episode is about playing the long game: building people, widening opportunity, and strengthening the future of homeownership. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ ⁠LaTasha Waddy's LinkedIn NFM Lending Lucas Home Loans The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  30. 376

    People-first leadership in mortgage

    In this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Patty Arvielo to discuss leadership, mentorship, and the role mortgage executives play in shaping the future of the industry. Arvielo shares how she leads at scale by humanizing leadership — meeting people where they are, understanding different perspectives across teams, and taking full accountability when things break down. She explains how the culture at New American Funding was intentionally built over time, drawing inspiration from customer-first organizations like Zappos. The conversation also covers her advocacy work in Washington and why mortgage professionals need a stronger voice in regulatory decisions that directly impact borrowers. Arvielo highlights her Thrive and Lead mentorship program and her commitment to developing the next generation of leaders, particularly women in mortgage. From navigating market cycles to building durable teams, this episode offers practical insight for professionals focused on long-term impact and leadership. Related to this episode: Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Patty Arvielo’s LinkedIn PattyArvielo.com New American Funding The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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    Patty Arvielo on leadership, housing access, and industry change

    In this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Patty Arvielo to discuss her journey from a teenage data entry clerk at TransUnion to one of the most influential leaders in mortgage. Arvielo shares how she learned every layer of the business early on and ultimately built New American Funding into a nationally recognized lender. What began as a business opportunity to better serve Latino homebuyers evolved into a long-term mission to expand access to homeownership for underserved communities. The conversation also explores the realities of today’s housing market, from supply constraints and affordability challenges to the outsized role of local policy in shaping outcomes. Arvielo breaks down her leadership philosophy of putting people over profits, and why protecting culture, even at the expense of production, has been central to building a durable organization. This episode offers a candid look at leadership, advocacy, and what it takes to create lasting impact in housing. Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Patty Arvielo's LinkedIn PattyArvielo.com New American Funding The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  32. 374

    Process over hustle: Building a high-performance team

    In part two of this conversation, Matt Weaver breaks down the systems, structure, and discipline required to build a high-performing mortgage team. He explains how scripted processes and clear standards create consistency, enable delegation, and allow teams to scale—even in flat or declining markets. Central to his approach is the “single lane” strategy, where each team member focuses on what they do best while eliminating distractions that limit production. The discussion also covers the difference between branch and team models, the role of mentorship, and why staying aligned with a defined purpose drives long-term success. For originators and leaders looking to improve performance and build scalable teams, this episode offers a practical playbook grounded in real-world execution. Related to the episode: ⁠Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Matt Weaver's LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Cross Country Mortgage⁠ ⁠Matt Weaver Team⁠ The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  33. 373

    Back to Finish the Mission: Mike Detwiler on the Future of Mortgage Manufacturing

    In this episode of Power House, HousingWire CEO Clayton Collins speaks to Mike Detwiler about his return to the industry as CEO of Mortgage Cadence more than a decade after selling the company to Accenture, offering a rare perspective on how mortgage technology has evolved and where it’s headed next. Detwiler reflects on founding Mortgage Cadence in 1999 and his early vision of “manufacturing mortgages” through data, workflow, and automation. Now, with AI, intelligent automation, and advanced analytics reshaping the landscape, he argues the industry is at another inflection point. The conversation explores the competitive LOS market, the rise of new technology entrants, and Mortgage Cadence’s growth strategy with PartnerOne. Detwiler also shares leadership insights from his experience as a founder and investor, emphasizing team empowerment and long-term thinking. Looking ahead, he connects technology innovation to a broader challenge: restoring confidence in homeownership for the next generation. Related to this episode: Mike Detwiler's LinkedIn Mortgage Cadence The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  34. 372

    Who’s your real customer? Matt Weaver’s playbook to build an empire

    In this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Matt Weaver to discuss his unconventional path from high school dropout to top-performing real estate agent and mortgage originator. Matt shares how an early mentorship opportunity set his career in motion and the lessons that shaped his approach to serving clients and building relationships. At the center of the conversation is one of his defining philosophies: understanding who your real customer is—and why, in many cases, it’s the real estate agent. The discussion explores how treating agents as customers, building clear processes, and maintaining consistent communication can transform performance in both real estate and mortgage sales. For originators and agents looking to build durable, high-performing businesses, this episode offers practical insight rooted in real-world experience. Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn Matt Weaver's LinkedIn Cross Country Mortgage Matt Weaver Team The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  35. 371

    Dave Savage: Why trust is the real barrier to homeownership

    In this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Dave Savage, co-founder of FirstHome IQ, to discuss a challenge that could shape the future of housing: preparing the next generation for homeownership. Drawing on insights from the NextGen Homebuyer Report, Savage explains why many younger buyers feel both overwhelmed by the process and disconnected from the mortgage industry. He argues that the solution isn’t more marketing—it’s education, storytelling, and leadership from housing professionals willing to guide buyers earlier in their journey. The conversation explores how lenders can engage Gen Z before they’re ready to transact, the growing role of parents in homeownership, and why rebuilding trust will be critical to expanding access in the years ahead. Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn Dave Savage’s LinkedIn First Home IQ The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  36. 370

    The housing problem no one is talking about

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with developer Austin Tunnell to explore a bigger question than housing itself: how the built environment shapes the way we live. Austin shares his unconventional path into real estate, from accounting to the Peace Corps to hands-on construction, and the realization that much of modern development is optimized for efficiency, not human connection. He argues that today’s neighborhoods often prioritize cars, uniformity and short-term returns at the expense of community and daily life. The conversation explores an alternative approach: building walkable, mixed-use neighborhoods designed for long-term value, human interaction and quality of place. But that approach comes with real tension—because traditional financing models, comps and investor expectations don’t naturally reward it. For professionals in housing, the takeaway is clear: what gets built isn’t just real estate—it’s the foundation for how people live, connect and build their lives. Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn Austin Tunnell's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  37. 369

    Trust (not scale) wins: Jeremy Davis shares how to bridge “the gap” in mortgage lending

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Jeremy Davis to discuss a leadership philosophy rooted in community trust, culture and long-term relationships. Davis shares how growing up in public housing shaped his understanding of how trust actually forms within underserved communities, and why lenders often miss the places where those relationships begin. He explains his concept of “community institutions of trust,” including barbershops, churches and neighborhood gathering spots where reputations and recommendations carry real influence. The conversation explores Davis’ “barbershop to browser” framework, which connects real-world community engagement with digital strategy. Instead of using online platforms to introduce lenders to new audiences, Davis believes digital presence should reinforce trust already built through authentic relationships. Inside Southern Bancorp, Davis has built a culture-first operating model that prioritizes service, consistency and community presence. The results include strong first-time homebuyer growth, deep rural market penetration and rare loan officer retention in today’s competitive mortgage environment. For leaders thinking about the future of lending, Davis offers a simple principle: trust can’t be scaled, but it can be built intentionally. Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe’s LinkedIn Jeremy Davis' LinkedIn Jeremy Davis' Op-Ed Southern Bancorp The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  38. 368

    Dave Savage: The next “great divide” in mortgage is already forming

    On this episode of Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with mortgage coach and industry veteran Dave Savage to discuss what separates the industry’s top originators from the rest and why that gap is likely to grow. Savage explains how shifting from a rate-focused sales approach to an advice-driven process transformed his own career and why consistent systems and repeatable customer experiences are the real differentiators among top producers. The conversation also explores the industry’s ongoing challenge with technology adoption and why investing in tools alone isn’t enough. Real competitive advantage, Savage argues, comes when technology becomes embedded in daily workflows and company culture. Looking ahead, Savage believes artificial intelligence will dramatically reshape how borrowers find loan officers and receive guidance. Rather than replacing originators, AI will amplify those who position themselves as trusted advisors. For mortgage professionals navigating a changing market, Savage offers clear guidance: build a personal brand, experiment with AI, and focus on delivering advice—not just transactions. Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe's LinkedIn Dave Savage's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  39. 367

    Bob Hart on AI, security, and the next phase of mortgage tech

    As the mortgage industry prepares for one of its largest annual gatherings, Diego Sanchez sits down with Bob Hart to preview what professionals can expect at Experience 2026, hosted by ICE Mortgage Technology at the Wynn Las Vegas. The event will bring together more than 3,000 industry leaders, hundreds of companies, and a full agenda focused on innovation, strategy, and the future of mortgage technology. Hart explains how the conference is designed to give attendees practical insights and tools they can immediately apply to their businesses. The conversation explores key themes shaping this year’s event—including artificial intelligence in mortgage operations, cybersecurity and fraud prevention, market conditions affecting lenders, and leadership development across the industry. Hart also previews new technology investments aimed at creating a more connected ecosystem linking originators, servicers, and consumers. For professionals navigating a rapidly evolving market, this episode offers an inside look at the conversations and innovations shaping the next chapter of mortgage technology. Related to this episode: Bob Hart's LinkedIn ICE Mortgage Technology The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  40. 366

    Why data is the real estate agent’s edge

    In this episode of Power House, Dave Crosby, Chief Data Officer at Compass, joins the conversation to discuss how data and technology are reshaping the real estate industry. Crosby explains the role of a Chief Data Officer and how organizing data into actionable insights can help agents make better decisions in a rapidly changing market. The discussion explores the growing influence of AI, why its effectiveness depends entirely on data quality, and how companies must build cultures of accountability to successfully adopt new technologies. The episode also highlights Compass’s entrepreneurial approach to supporting agents, the importance of market insights, and why professionals who combine strong networks with data-driven decision-making will have an advantage in the years ahead. Related to this episode: Dave Crosby's LinkedIn Compass The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  41. 365

    From charts to closings: What you should be watching in the market

    Recorded at the HousingWire Housing Economic Summit at the George Bush Presidential Library in Dallas, this episode shifts the conversation from forecasts to practical application: what should housing professionals actually do with economic data? Odeta Kushi, VP and Deputy Chief Economist at First American, explains why housing economics behaves less like a machine and more like a living organism shaped by labor markets, demographics, inventory dynamics, and consumer psychology. She breaks down the small set of indicators that explain most of the market story — mortgage rate drivers, inventory trends, affordability fundamentals, and demographic demand. The conversation also tackles common misconceptions about down payments, market timing, and the “date the rate” narrative. For loan officers, brokers, and agents trying to make sense of a shifting market, this episode turns economic signals into practical insight. Related to this episode: Zeb’s LinkedIn Odeta's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  42. 364

    The 80/20 rule of housing economics: Understanding today’s market

    In this episode, Zeb Lowe speaks with Dr. Jessica Lautz about framing housing economics not as a machine, but as a living organism shaped by human behavior, demographics, and local dynamics. She breaks down the “80/20” of housing fluency (inventory and affordability) and explains why professionals don’t need to be economists, but must clearly understand what’s available and whether buyers can afford it. Dr. Lautz outlines the biggest structural forces shaping today’s market: a persistent inventory shortage, pent-up millennial demand, rising down payments, delayed first-time buyer entry, and shifting household formation patterns. She also challenges national headlines, emphasizing the importance of local data and reminding listeners that affordability extends beyond rates and prices to total cost of ownership. Looking ahead to 2026–2027, she highlights the key signals to watch: construction activity, existing inventory, mortgage applications, and demographic demand. For housing professionals seeking clarity in a noisy market, this conversation turns macro trends into practical insight. Related to this episode: Zeb’s LinkedIn Dr. Jessica Lautz’s LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  43. 363

    Why mortgage marketing fails (Hint: It’s leadership)

    In this episode of Power House, host Zeb Lowe sits down with mortgage marketing strategist Bri Lees to tackle one of the industry’s biggest tensions: how to create marketing that’s authentic, effective, and still compliant. Bri argues that bland mortgage marketing isn’t a creativity problem; it’s a leadership problem. When executive teams fail to define their compliance philosophy or brand identity, loan officers default to “safe” messaging that feels forgettable. With clear guardrails and alignment, she explains, companies can build marketing that feels human and differentiated without crossing regulatory lines. The conversation reframes compliance not as a creativity killer, but as a strategic constraint that, when clearly defined, can sharpen a brand’s message and strengthen trust. Related to this episode: Zeb’s LinkedIn Bri’s LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  44. 362

    Trapped equity and the next mortgage opportunity

    HousingWire brought leading housing economists and capital markets experts to Dallas for the Housing Economic Summit with one goal: translate charts and forecasts into what actually matters for professionals trying to close deals every day. In this episode, John Toohig of Raymond James breaks down whole loan trading—the buying and selling of unsecuritized mortgages—and explains why understanding liquidity on the back end is now just as important as originating the loan itself. As originators adjust to life after the 2021–2022 refinance boom, John outlines where the real opportunities are today: HELOCs, second liens, ARMs, and purchase loans—especially in a market full of “trapped equity.” He also explains why mortgage credit is historically clean (perhaps too clean), why banks are re-entering the ARM market, which loan types are hardest to sell in the secondary market, and what separates lenders who consistently move loans from those who struggle with due diligence. For originators, capital markets teams, and executives navigating 2026, this episode turns macro signals into actionable insight. Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn: Whole loan trades are faster and simpler than securitization HELOCs and second liens represent major opportunity amid trapped equity Banks are returning — especially in ARMs Credit is extremely “clean,” perhaps tighter than necessary Organized files and disciplined underwriting drive repeat investor demand Related to this episode: John Toohig's Bio John Toohig's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  45. 361

    The Dane Cook window: How to win the AI land grab

    In this solo Power House episode, Zeb Lowe breaks down a quiet but powerful shift happening in mortgage marketing: AI is becoming the place consumers go for recommendations, not just information. As traditional search behavior evolves, Zeb explains why loan officers and agents must think beyond SEO and start positioning themselves inside AI recommendation engines. He walks through the economic forces behind the shift, why early adopters have a finite window of advantage, and the practical steps professionals can take now to become the name AI suggests when buyers are ready to decide. If search is changing from browsing to delegating, this episode explains what that means and how to stay ahead of it. Download the AI Visibility Guide Related to the episode: Zeb Lowe's LinkedIn The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire’s Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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    Why most content fails: How to create content people remember

    Zeb Lowe sits down with Rick Grant to unpack why “more content” isn’t the answer and why clarity, authenticity, and narrative structure matter more than ever. They dig into what actually makes content stick, why audiences are tuning out polished but hollow messaging, and how brands can define thought leadership without sounding like everyone else. Here's a glimpse of what you'll learn: Good content is memorable and impactful. Stories are more effective than bullet points for retention. Simplifying messages helps break through content noise. Authenticity is key to effective communication. AI can be a valuable tool for content creation. Thought leadership is accessible to anyone passionate about their knowledge. Understanding your audience's journey is crucial for content strategy. Leverage personal experiences to craft unique narratives. The basic brand promise is foundational for effective messaging. Helping others is the best way to establish expertise. Related to this episode: Rick Grant's Linkedin The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire's Zeb Lowe every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

  47. 359

    Diego Sanchez & Zeb Lowe: Inside HousingWire’s next chapter

    In this episode of Power House, Diego Sanchez and Zeb Lowe discuss the transition of hosting responsibilities and Zeb’s perspective on where housing and mortgage conversations need to go next. Drawing on his background in origination and content creation, Zeb explains why storytelling, collaboration, and community matter more than ever in a crowded, fast-moving industry. The conversation explores HousingWire’s evolving content strategy, shifting generational attitudes toward homeownership, and the importance of education in addressing affordability challenges. They also unpack the role of AI in housing, making the case for technology as an amplifier of human judgment rather than a replacement, and why empowering teams with the right tools is key to productivity and engagement. This episode sets the tone for Power House’s next chapter: focused on people, perspective, and practical insight. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire

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    What comes after automation and AI: Designing for the human in the age of the machine

    In this special Power House episode, host Zeb Lowe previews the conversations coming to the show and unpacks a core challenge facing the industry today.As automation and AI continue to accelerate productivity, the industry’s cost problem isn’t a technology issue, but an economic one. He explains why human judgment, trust, and accountability have become the most valuable (and expensive) parts of the mortgage process, and what that shift means for leaders heading into 2026. The episode also offers a look ahead at upcoming Power House guests, setting the stage for conversations focused on building with intention, not reaction. The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire president Diego Sanchez every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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    The long game of mortgage success: Leadership lessons from Anthony Casa

    This week on Power House, Zeb Lowe sits down with Anthony Casa, President and CEO of UMortgage, for a candid conversation about what actually drives long-term success in the mortgage business. Anthony reflects on his decades in the industry, sharing why mentorship remains one of the most critical (and most overlooked) factors for loan originators. He explains how building early relationships with real estate agents compounds over time, why consistency matters more than short-term wins, and how earning trust is still the foundation of every successful career. The conversation also takes a personal turn as Anthony opens up about his own transformation, including sobriety and renewed focus on health and wellness, and how those changes reshaped his leadership style. He connects personal discipline to professional performance, arguing that sustainable success in mortgage lending starts with how leaders take care of themselves. Anthony and Zeb also dig into the industry’s structural shift from retail to broker channels, discussing why compensation, flexibility, and culture are driving that movement—and how marketing strategies must evolve to support it. This episode is a grounded look at mentorship, leadership, and why the long game still matters in mortgage. Here's a glimpse of what you'll learn: Why mentorship is essential for new loan officers How early agent relationships compound into long-term success What Anthony’s personal transformation taught him about leadership Why health and wellness matter in high-pressure careers How the broker channel is reshaping mortgage competition Why culture and autonomy attract top talent How marketing strategies should match individual sales goals Why consistency beats intensity over time How to succeed in today’s market conditions Why earning trust still matters more than tactics The Power House podcast brings the biggest names in housing to answer hard-hitting questions about industry trends, operational and growth strategy, and leadership. Join HousingWire president Diego Sanchez every Thursday morning for candid conversations with industry leaders to learn how they’re differentiating themselves from the competition. Hosted and produced by the HousingWire Content Studio.

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    Why first-time buyers don’t trust the system

    This week on Power House, Clayton Collins sits down with Kristin Messerli to unpack one of the most persistent challenges in housing: why first-time homebuyers feel overwhelmed, underprepared, and increasingly distrustful of the financial system. They explore the role of education in bridging the knowledge and trust gap, emphasizing the importance of empowering loan officers to build relationships within their communities. The discussion also highlights the impact of the ambassador program and the goals for 2026, focusing on sustainability and advocacy in the housing market. Here's a glimpse of what you'll learn: Why first-time buyers often feel overwhelmed and uncertain How trust in lenders has declined over time Why education is the foundation of buyer confidence What loan officers need to become effective educators How ambassador programs strengthen community relationships Why financial literacy is missing from traditional education systems How personal stories help buyers see themselves as homeowners The sustainability challenges facing housing nonprofits Why advocacy matters for loan officers and their clients What the future of homeownership depends on Related to this episode: FirstHome IQ Kristin Messerli

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