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The Insurgent Mindset
by The Insurgent Mindset
Success in today’s ever-evolving business landscape demands radically different thinking and actions – what we call Insurgence. In this podcast, you’ll discover how to break free from the limitations of the “incumbent” mindset and transform your business by leveraging the “insurgent” mindset. Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. To learn more visit www.insurgencegroup.com.
Episodes
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Taking on Big Sugar: Remedy’s Insurgent Playbook | Episode 46 with William Lawrence
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo sit down with William Lawrence, Commercial Director at Remedy Drinks, to explore the realities of scaling a challenger brand in a market dominated by established giants.From building a category around kombucha to expanding into the…
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Build or Buy? AI Just Changed the Equation | Episode 45
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo explore how AI is reopening one of the oldest questions in enterprise technology: should companies build or buy their software? For decades, the complexity and cost of building custom systems created a powerful moat for enterprise software...
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Disruption is Inevitable: Your Old Playbook Is Dead (Here's What Wins Now) | Episode 44
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack why traditional strategies are struggling as AI reshapes the world, customer expectations shift, geopolitical uncertainty grows, and new competition emerges. They explore what happens when outdated assumptions hold organisations…
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Give Your Customers a Seat at the Table | Episode 43 with Simon Elliot
In this episode, Matt and Rondo are joined by Simon Elliot to explore Customer Experience Thinking in the context of theInsurgent Mindset. What does it really mean to understand your customer? How close is your organisation to the people it serves? And what changes when customers become part of…
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The Biggest Mistake Legacy Businesses Make During Disruption | Episode 42 with Ed Harrison
In this episode, Matt speaks with Ed Harrison, an experienced media and publishing executive who has worked across Fairfax Media, Yahoo 7, Isentia and, more recently, the Australian medical publishing sector. Ed has spent much of his career navigating industries undergoing rapid technological and...
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The SaaSpocalypse: Why Companies May Stop Buying Software | Episode 41
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack whether the so-called “SaaSpocalypse” is really a temporary market correction or evidence of a much deeper structural shift. They explore why companies are beginning to replace SaaS tools with AI agents and custom-built systems, how...
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Healthcare's New Power Players Won't Be Who You Expect | Episode 40 with Hitesh Vachharajanii
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo sit down with Hitesh Vachharajani, a life sciences executive and founder with almost three decades of experience across pharmaceuticals, medtech and diagnostics. Together they explore why many organisations are applying AI to outdated...
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The Brutal Truth About Why Great Retailers Fail | Episode 39 with Bernie Brooks
Bernie Brooks has led some of Australia's biggest retailers, built businesses across India, China and Africa, and now advises boards and investors on what separates winners from businesses that slowly disappear. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Bernie joins Matt and Rondo to unpack the...
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The Companies That Don't Rebuild Their Workforce Will Disappear | Episode 38 with Lisa Christy
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Lisa Christy joins Matt Tice and Rondo Moses to explore why HR can no longer remain a transactional support function. As AI accelerates the pace of business, organisations must rethink capability, workforce planning, leadership and culture together. The...
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The Tokenomics Problem Every CEO Will Soon Face | Episode 37
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack one of the biggest paradoxes shaping business today: why cheaper AI is leading to larger AI bills. They explore token economics, the governance challenges facing boards and CFOs, the risks of uncontrolled AI adoption, and why many...
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Your Annual Planning Process Is Killing Innovation | Episode 36
Every year, leadership teams and boards invest significant time and resources into strategy offsites, planning sessions, and executive retreats. Yet many of these workshops produce little more than incremental improvements, recycled assumptions, and plans that struggle to keep pace with a rapidly...
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Why Most Leadership Teams Are Already Behind | Episode 35 with Julie Toma
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we sit down with Julie Toma to explore why innovation often dies inside established organizations, how boards can either accelerate disruption or completely block it, and why curiosity, courage, and psychological safety are becoming essential leadership...
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The Architecture of Learning, Storytelling, and Challenger Thinking with Jamie Engel | Episode 34
What if the future of learning isn’t about better content—but better design? In this episode, Jamie Engel, founder of Neutopia, breaks down the “architecture of learning” and why most organizations get it wrong. Drawing from a career spanning film, storytelling, and education, he reveals how the...
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Your Next Customer Won’t Be Human: Competing in an AI-Driven Market with Katja Forbes | Episode 33
What happens when your next customer isn’t human? We sit down with Katja Forbes (author of Machine Customers) and break down the rapid rise of agentic commerce and what it means for business strategy, customer experience, and competitive advantage. With AI agents already making purchasing…
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Signal vs Noise: Discernment in a World of Disruption with Stephanie Christopher | Episode 32
In a world defined by constant disruption, the ability to distinguish between signal and noise has become one of the most critical leadership skills. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, the conversation explores how mid-market leaders are navigating uncertainty, identifying meaningful…
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Don’t Let Private Equity Catch You with Your Pants Down | Episode 31
Most mid-market CEOs believe they’re building valuable businesses, but when private equity shows up, they quickly discover how much value they’ve left on the table. In this episode, we break down the critical difference between two types of leaders: those who manage for performance, and those who...
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An Analysis of the Economic, Political, and Military Impacts of the War in the Middle East | BONUS
In this timely bonus episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack the economic, political, and military impacts of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. From rising fuel costs and inflationary pressure to tightening capital and increasing recession risk, the conversation explores…
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Doing Things Right vs Doing The Right Things | Episode 30
Too often, companies treat efficiency as the goal, focusing on cutting costs and eliminating waste. But productivity is something different entirely: it’s about creating more value for customers and the market. The discussion unpacks how organizations frequently become highly efficient at the…
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The Resilience Advantage: Why Future-Proof Businesses Think Beyond Strategy with Renae Hanvin | Episode 29
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we sit down with Renae Hanvin, Founder and CEO of Resilient Ready, to explore why resilience is emerging as one of the most critical capabilities for modern organizations. Drawing on her background in crisis management, corporate responsibility, and...
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Bad News Fast: Building an Insurgent Culture as a First-Time CEO | Episode 28 with Rob Lawrence
What does insurgent leadership really look like when the responsibility sits squarely in the CEO seat? In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Rob Lawrence, CEO of Otelier, breaks down the realities of leading through disruption in a laggard industry facing rapid technological change. The...
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Can Government Think Like an Insurgent? | Episode 27
Government systems are often seen as slow, complex, and resistant to change. This episode explores what happens when an insurgent mindset is applied inside those structures — not from the outside, but from within. The discussion focuses on how individuals and teams in the public sector can...
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Volatility Is the Opportunity: An Insurgent’s Guide to 2026
2026 is shaping up to be a volatility-rich year and for insurgent leaders, that means opportunity. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo look ahead at what CEOs and leadership teams need to be preparing for as uncertainty becomes structural rather than cyclical. From…
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2025 in Review: What Actually Changed (And What Didn’t)
As 2025 comes to a close, the biggest risk for leaders isn’t missing the next trend, it’s misunderstanding the ones that already reshaped the landscape. This episode is a strategic debrief on the patterns that quietly defined the year, separating short-term noise from signals that are still...
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This Media Deal Should Scare You (Even If You Love Netflix) | Episode 26
For years, Netflix defined what it meant to be an insurgent: rewriting the rules of distribution, attention, and pricing while legacy media scrambled to keep up. But as the battle for Warner Bros heats up, the lines between insurgent and incumbent are blurring fast. This episode unpacks what...
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The Accessibility Gap: How One Insurgent Startup is Beating Big Tech to the Future of AI | Episode 25
This episode explores the creation of Make It Easy, an emerging AI tool designed to simplify the world for people with low literacy, intellectual disability, or anyone overwhelmed by complexity. Sam and Jon Paior share how the app began with one powerful insight: if AI could decode dense content...
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New Rules of Market Engagement: What Insurgent Sales & Marketing Teams Do Differently | Epsiode 24
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we take a closer look at what it really means for sales and marketing teams to operate like challengers in fast-moving, disrupted markets. Explore why high activity levels don’t automatically translate into insurgent behaviour, and how organizations can...
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Breaking the Blueprint: How Beek Build Is Making Construction Agile | Episode 23
What happens when a construction leader applies lessons from manufacturing and technology to one of the world’s most traditional industries? In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Ben Rijnbeek, founder and managing director of Beek Build, shares how he’s redefining construction through…
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Culture Eats Disruption for Breakfast: Inside the Mind of the Insurgent Organization | Episode 22
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo explore what it really takes to build an insurgent culture: one where teams move fast, challenge bureaucracy, and stay relentlessly focused on the customer. From Amazon’s “Day One” mentality to stories of non-profits innovating with limited...
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The Productivity Illusion: Why Efficiency Isn’t the Same as Growth | Episode 21
Everyone’s talking about productivity but few truly understand it. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we unpack the global “productivity paradox”: why advanced economies like Australia are stagnating while the U.S. continues to surge ahead. From the hidden drivers behind America’s…
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Planning to Learn, Not to Be Right: Rita McGrath on Rethinking Strategy | Episode 20
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we’re joined by Rita McGrath, Columbia Business School professor, best-selling author, and one of the world’s foremost voices on strategy and innovation. Rita takes us inside her groundbreaking concept of discovery-driven planning, the idea that in times…
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Forever Companies and Cowboy Leadership: Randall Makin’s Entrepreneurial Journey | Episode 19
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, hosts Rondo Moses and Matt Tice sit down with Randall Makin a self-described “cowboy” of engineering and entrepreneurship. From his humble beginnings in rural Australia to building and selling RedEye, a cloud-based software company that disrupted the…
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Why Construction Productivity is Stuck — And How CEOs Can Break the Cycle | Episode 18
Construction is one of the few industries where productivity has remained flat for decades, with thin margins, cost overruns, and persistent labor shortages holding it back. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we explore why the industry is so resistant to change—and what CEOs can learn…
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Making Rain From the Climate Crisis: Where Capitalism Meets Net Zero with Guy Dickinson | Episode 17
After 17 years inside one of the world’s largest banks, Guy Dickinson traded ribbon-cutting for real impact, moving from talking to 10 people in the boardroom to influencing 10,000 in the market. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Guy shares how he built BetaCarbon and Climer to bring...
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The Abundance Blindspot: Why Your Business Can't See Its Own Growth Potential | Episode 16
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt Tice and Rondo Moses take Ezra Klein’s popular “abundance agenda” and run it through the lens of modern enterprise leadership. They reveal how a scarcity mindset, marked by internal focus, rigid structures, and risk aversion, is sabotaging innovation...
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From Planning to Listening: How Mabe Reinvented Agility at Scale with Ramiro Perez | Episode 15
What does it take to stay agile in a legacy industry? In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Ramiro Perez, Head of International at Mabe, shares how one of Latin America’s largest appliance manufacturers continues to lead across 75+ markets—not by rigid long-term planning, but by listening...
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Retail Disrupted: Consumers, Data, and the Omni-Channel Imperative | Episode 14
Step into the evolving world of retail with Rondo and Matt as they unpack the seismic shifts reshaping the industry—from fashion to grocery. This episode explores how Gen Z and millennial expectations are driving demand for personalized, frictionless, omnichannel experiences. We examine the power...
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Disruption in Death: Innovating the End-of-Life Experience | Episode 13
Join us on The Insurgent Mindset as we journey to an unexpected corner of the economy: the deathcare industry. In this compelling episode, hosts Matt Tice and Rondo Moses sit down with Andrew Erickson from GMCT, a Class A Cemetery Trust, to explore the profound shifts and challenges facing this...
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Adapt or Get Replaced: The New Rules of Professional Services | Episode 12
The rules of professional services are being rewritten. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo break down how firms in law, accounting, consulting, and beyond are being disrupted by automation, AI, offshoring, and platform competitors. The traditional pyramid model is eroding,...
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Tesla's Unraveling: Ego, Politics, and the Death of a Disruptor | Episode 11
Tesla once embodied the ultimate insurgent mindset — toppling traditional automakers with innovation, audacity, and a bold vision for the future. But has the EV giant lost its way? In this episode, Matt Tice and Rondo Moses dig deep into Tesla’s remarkable rise — and its worrying decline. We...
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Sustainability Showdown: Lessons from Tesla, BYD and Patagonia | Episode 10
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, hosts Matt and Rondo delve into the sustainability showdown between insurgent and incumbent organizations. They examine compelling case studies of companies like Tesla, BYD, and Patagonia to illustrate how innovative leaders are embedding sustainability...
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Ten Trillion Dollar Gamble: Trump's Tariff Armageddon | BONUS Episode
In the third installment of our Trump bonus series, we dive deep into the controversial topic of Trump's tariff plan. Following our previous episodes on his presidential campaign and his first month in office, this episode explores the complexities and implications of the tariff announcements…
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Deep Seek Disruption with Scripter | Episode 9
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt Tice and Rondo Moses sit down with Vladimir Yuzhakov, also known as Scripter, to explore the revolutionary impact of DeepSeek in the AI industry. Scripter, an expert in AI and behavioral economics, shares how DeepSeek's innovative approach to AI…
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Beyond the Mission: Disruption in the Non-Profit Sector | Episode 8
Nonprofits, associations, and NGOs are built on strong missions—but these days, mission alone isn’t enough. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt Tice and Rondo Moses explore how nonprofit leaders can break free from complacency, embrace innovation, and adopt an insurgent mindset to…
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Breaking the Media Playbook: What Leaders Must Learn from Insurgent Platforms | Episode 7
The media industry is in the midst of massive disruption. Legacy media is struggling with declining viewership, the rise of digital platforms, and shifting consumer behaviors. Advertisers are following audiences to social media and streaming services, while independent creators are reshaping...
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The Future of Higher Education: Disruption, Innovation and the Value Dilemma | Episode 6
Higher education is at a crossroads. With rising tuition, shifting employer demands, and the emergence of alternative credentials, students and institutions alike are questioning the traditional university model. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we explore the forces reshaping higher...
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Trump 2.0: Move Fast, and Break Things | BONUS Episode
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Rondo and Matt analyze the early days of the Trump/Vance administration through the lens of disruption. Back in November, we broke down the playbooks of both presidential campaigns—now, two weeks after Trump’s inauguration, we assess the impact of this...
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Just Do It: Nike’s Story of Innovation and Domination | Episode 5
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we dive deep into the fascinating history of Nike—a company that has masterfully played both the insurgent and incumbent roles in the market. From its scrappy beginnings to its dominance as a global leader in sportswear, Nike’s journey is a study in...
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2025 Vision: Business Trends to Watch and Leverage | BONUS Episode
As we step into 2025, the global business landscape is brimming with both opportunities and challenges. From the rapid advancements in AI and automation to the shifting and uncertain dynamics of global trade, businesses are navigating uncharted waters. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we...
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Prescription for Change: Innovating the Pharmacy Business Model | Episode 4
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we delve into the disruption reshaping the pharmacy ecosystem and the groundbreaking innovations transforming its business models. Our discussion explores how the industry has evolved from traditional delineated models to dynamic, hybrid frameworks driven...
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Legacy vs. Disruption in the Skies: Boeing and SpaceX | Episode 3
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we dive into a compelling case study comparing two titans of the aerospace industry—Boeing and SpaceX. From legacy strategies to disruptive innovation, we unpack their approaches to leadership, technology, and market dominance. What lessons can businesses...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Success in today’s ever-evolving business landscape demands radically different thinking and actions – what we call Insurgence. In this podcast, you’ll discover how to break free from the limitations of the “incumbent” mindset and transform your business by leveraging the “insurgent” mindset. Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. To learn more visit www.insurgencegroup.com.
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