Wait, Say More with Eric Cheng

People blame him for Trump 2.0. Now he's running for governor of California, and he's got a whole movement behind him. In this episode, Eric and Dr. Butch Ware get into the truth about corporate Dems, AIPAC-funded candidates, and why an capitalist should hold the highest office in the most populous state.

my first marathon! I talk about what training for and completing a marathon taught me especially in my hustle as a creative and someone pivoting in my career amid constant bad news.

for your commute / parallel play. No editing, no visuals, just me speaking my mind. Here's what I think is happening in the world regarding the job market and work life. With AI taking over, are we cooked?

Eliminating the male loneliness epidemic one dating masterclass at a time? Wait, Say More. Valentine's Day is nigh. Comedian-dating coach Ellen Lang shares what she teaches men to help them date and connect with women... and guess what? she's bi. so she knows.

I had a viral moment this past week calling out the Dems for doing the least in the wake of the Minnesota ICE shootings. Since our elected officials can't seem to get their sh*t together, I decided to do a deep dive myself on whether we can and should abolish ICE.

Michael Tubbs is a big deal. He was the youngest mayor of a major US city at only. He was endorsed by Obama, supported by Oprah, and had a whole HBO documentary made about him. Now, he’s running for California Lt. Governor, the 2nd highest position in the state, and he's bringing some ideas he's learned along the way to secure the win for himself and the Democrats (cause we all know they could use help right now).A young leader representing young people? Wait, say more. 

I get into the real experience with Michelle aka THE human calculator and Youtube sensation with over 3M subscribers. Her life happened completely by accident, and that's some real tea. Wait, Say More returns with regularly scheduled programming NEXT WEEK.

RECAP of my ultimate side quest because I love being RANDOM. Didn't win the money but won a friend, and that's really what its all about at the end of the day and stuff like that

Loneliness? Wait, Say More. Creator Nathan Ramos-Park is known for this takes on culture, and he's sharing his perspective on the male loneliness epidemic as someone whose experienced loneliness for most of his life. In the launch of this mini series on the topic, Eric and Nathan say more on loneliness from the pov of a non-cis white man (cause it affects all of us, surprise surprise), what Nathan did to pull himself out of the abyss of loneliness, and how the "epidemic" we're currently facing all boils down to, you guessed it, capitalism.

Model Maureen Tang gives confidence tips, talks about the dream life she's living, and gets vulnerable about the not-so-glam stuff with Eric in this episode of Wait, Say More-- for the adulting Zillenial. Listen to part 1 here.Follow @waitsaymore and @ericsaymore on IG and TiktokChapters:(0:00) intro(0:23) life lesson: its not that deep(1:50) PROCESS of modeling(3:50) is this it?(5:00) the only Asian(6:30) relationship with her body(10:20) has it ever been unhealthy?(11:05) stopping drinking(12:00) is modeling shallow?(13:29) it's not ABOUT you(15:00) having everything you want in life(17:50) CONFIDENCE(21:00) a fascinating (and sad) story(25:00) what her mom taught her

If anyone knows manifestation and huslte, it's Maureen Tang. She went from Harvard to cushy corporate job to the NY Fashion Week runway. She's done Lululemon, Guess, Nike, Louis Vuitton, and more all in a matter of 4 years. On this episode of WAIT, SAY MORE, a show for Zillenials, Eric and Maureen get into what it REALLY takes to follow your dreams in your 20s beyond the DELUSION-- how to actually make it work on a practical and financial level. If you're on the fence about quitting your job, doing something different, FOLLOWING YOUR PASSION.. wait, say more.Follow @waitsaymore on IG and Tiktok. Like and subscribe for WEEKLY episodes on all things adulting in the sh*t show that is 2025.CHAPTERS(0:00) she a model she a baddie(2:00) extroverted introvert(4:30) DISCIPLINED and STRUCTURED(6:30) the challenges she's faced, life philosophy(8:05) protect your energy + hustle(11:05) living 2 lives at once(14:30) not having money growing up(19:00) leaving her job(23:00) PLANNING and EXECUTING the hustle(26:00) advice from her boss

Sam Oh doesn't think being hot is relatable. He grew up a devout Christian, which made being gay complicated. Now he sings about 4skin. WARNING: this episode discusses gay, sex, and gay sex. If neither are your jam, maybe skip it. If they ARE.... wait, say more. CHAPTERS:(0:00) intro(1:15) growing up super religious(8:00) unhealthy relationship with career(10:50) Being normal and cool is OUT(13:00) the gay world... sucks(16:00) bad grindr experiences(18:00) men are gross (20:00) cruising? pressure to have s*x(22:00) gay s*x so confusing(26:00) poop fear(29:00) a song about 4SKIN. why?(32:00) the power of an alter ego

my first youtubey car talk. why im choosing (pessimistic) optimism in these dark timesbeware: im kinda annoying(0:00) intro(1:45) ignorance vs. depression(3:15) im... happy?(4:51) nothing matters(5:58) whats important to you?(7:10) guilt is unproductive(9:10) you do you, choose life(10:15) thoughts from a psych phd

Disney channel. 2009 pop bangers. Existential anxiety. In this episode I analyze the defining characteristics of our micro-generation currently in the most pivotal time of our lives (mid-20s-early 30s) and explain why we deserve some love.follow this channel and @waitsaymore on ig for all things zillenial. I'm making it my personal mission to bring us into the zetigeist and give us a #space

you know her as the “3 adult things” girl from the internet. gaining 250K followers in 6 months, she’s found a way to survive + thrive in this current flop of an entertainment industry (thanks ai). in this episoe, eric and milky get into the cruel reality of heartbreak and breakups and the longing for a time in childhood before adulthood crushed our dreams of wanting to be superstars. let go or be dragged.. wait, say morechapters(0:00) intro(1:05) why "milky"(5:00) when ur mom doesn't support ur dreams(8:30) becoming ur #1 hype girl(12:30) the stakes of creating(14:25) how her CONTENT started(17:55) 3 Adult Things: nostalgia, depression :/(22:00) + heartbreak(25:30) katy perry was my beard

Comedian and Murderbot star Sabrina Wu gets honest about getting hate online for being trans and asian and how we should maybe all be less narcissistic. part 2 of 2. follow the show @waitsaymoreeric @ericjchengCOME TO THE LATE NITE SHOW / LAUNCH PARTY JULY 18th more info on igchapters:(0:00) intro(1:32) getting hate online(4:30) whats wrong with us rn(6:14) nepo babies(9:34) who's the real enemy(10:24) NARCISSISM(12:00) has fame changed ur social life?(13:30) being "the asian trans person"(14:40) OUT OF POCKET(16:45) first event! come!(18:00) i get hate too(19:20) philosophy of narcissism(20:46) are creatives just narcissists?(22.30) reading fox news

our whole lives our parents compared us to each other. now *one* of us is famous. years (and 3 coming-outs later), we came together to finally talk about the projection, insecurity, and jealousy.follow the show @waitsaymoreeric @ericjchengCOME TO THE LATE NITE SHOW / LAUNCH PARTY JULY 18th. chapters(0:00) intro(2:23) interview BEGINS(5:20) parents NEVER believed in them(8:30) being COMPARED by parents(12:40) my mom interrogated them(14:15) HELICOPTER vs. ABSENT parents(16:30) It was all a lie(18:00) HARVARD + being invisible (21:30) I came out bc THEY came out(23:00) being a weird af kid(26:15) reflection(28:15) ASIAN COMPARISON IS UNIVERSAL(31:20) what's NEXT

Are Harvard grads happy? Rich? Having s*x? We surveyed 250 of them at our 5th year reunion and got ALL the tea. Like and subscribe to Wait, Say More: a new sh*t (talk) show for the Existential Zillenial. If you're 25-35 and figuring this life thing out, join us.chapters (0:00) how was reunion?(4:15) presentation start(5:40) are u gay?(8:20) are u happy? fulfilled?(10:40) quarterlife crisis(13:50) what HELPED?(17:30) most jawdropping stat(20:00) how much $ u make?(21:50) SEGGS?(26:00) what makes u CRINGE about past self(28:20) crushes(31:20) what do u wish u knew at 22(33:00) what do u want success in?(36:30) A classmate's beautiful speech

SURPRISE! Special mini-sode before season 2 launches. SPOILER ALERT. Unpacking Asian fetishization (again) and that CRAZY monologue (that's right, we're getting topical). Getting into truthie Melinda Li's Huffington Post article on what she learned when she stopped dating white men. #asian #dating #whitelotus

Truthies, it’s time to say goodbye... TO SEASON 1. I’m not going anywhere, except maybe social media purgatory bc in this episode, I get into my very complicated relationship with social media since putting myself out there with this podcast, which I have talked about endlessly with my therapist. it’s been… lowkey hard. And tiring.. one reason why your boy is going on a #break. Have no fear. Season 2 will be here… soon. and so. much. better <3follow @ericjcheng and @nosotruepod in the meantime on ig and @nosotrue on tiktokchapters(0:00) goodbye forever. capricorns(3.10) I need validation(4:40) I DISLIKE SOCIAL MEDIA(10:20) No one wants authenticity nowadays(15:00) IG is not what it used to be(19:40) I went virAL(24:00) why not just GET OFF(29:10) economics teacher MOMENT(32:10) FOMO and comparison(37:20) I failed(42:20) This podcast changed my life

Julia Riew (composer-lyricist, writer) doesn’t want to be perceived, and yet, she’s got over 200K followers and has a fantasy romance novel coming out this year. Known as the “Korean Disney Princess Girl” who exploded on tiktok and in the news, Julia is making her passion her career and killing it at that. In this episode, she and Eric talk about getting past self doubt and the need to fit in, meticulously planning her career pop-off despite having few Asian or women role models, and living life after finally reaching her childhood dream (like…… ok now what?) If you’re on the fence about pursuing your passion, if you want to be creative and need them secrets, if you’re tryna hear what it takes to be successful at 25 (typing this hurts my 27 year old a**)….. no, so true. tiktok @juliariew ig: @juliariew https://juliariew.com/ chapters (0:00) intro (3:41) discovering her passion (10:40) starting our own thing together (16:20) does art change the world? (19:00) wanting to fit in (24:00) advice from a mentor (29:00) being organized as an artist (33:00) FINALLY achieving the dream (40:00) making DIVE- her hit musical (47:20) her PREMONITION and DOING it (56:50) her upcoming BOOK: The Last Tiger

WE’RE BACK BABY! HS English teacher, Quilter, Researcher and Adult with ADHD Kelsey Reynolds joins NST to help you organize your life and time whether you need it or not (good for you if you don't! go to h*ll). We talk getting misdiagnosed before getting the ADHD diagnosis, honing in on what works for her, and learning that SELF ACCEPTANCE is GENUINELY that girl, no matter what you’re struggling with atm... (this actually helped me a lot especially with my ~professional issue~) Listen to PART 1 (last ep) before this for context of everything that came before you (rip). chapters (0:00) Intro, Disclaimer (1:05) KELSEY REYNOLDS IS HERE (5:20) Getting to her diagnosis (9:20) ideal vs. actual day with adhd (10:20) SKIP TO HERE - WHERE WE LEFT OFF (13:20) Medication? or nah (17:30) Being bad with the details (19:40) TAKE OFF THE CLOEST DOORS (23:00) Learning about yourself (25:20) Ditching shame (27:20) How her adhd affects dating (34:30) Stopping + RESUMING PASSIONS (41:00) it’s about that first step (43:00) A message for women and people with periods (48:24) My problem at work outcome, my ADHD? (54:00) BIG THERAPY MINDBLOWN MOMENT (1:01:20) 2025 goals: overrated, WHAT’S NEXT (1:03:20) truthie shoutout, bye!

Part 1, first SOLO(ish) episode!… I STRUGGLE with time management; I know I’m not the only one. I recently got some ~constructive feedback~ at work and it’s made me have to think about how to ACTUALLY manage my time, get organized, and do something about my ADHD tendencies once and for all. For help, I introduce the perfect person; educator, quilter, and adult with ADHD Kelsey Reynolds to bring u the practicals and tacticals. new year, new tea.. and the tea is i need to get my sh*t together, compassionately❤️ chances are, you do too. chapters: (0:00) 2025! one year older! (1:09) bad with time? this one’s for u (3:03) I’m chronically late 😕 (4:40) I got in trouble 😕 why im doing this ep (7:30) where my sh*tty time management comes from (10:30) this changed my life.. (16:20) when i realized i HAD to change (19:00) the psychology of a late person (24:15) hold yourself accountable (28:00) i have shame!! (30:10) nightmare therapist/doctor experiences (34:00) why im not on adhd meds.. yet (38:00) what works for YOU (42:00) actually FINISHING tasks (44:00) a mindset that has helped me (47:00) what is Adderall like? and my GUEST (53:10) getting misdiagnosed, trying again (56:45) a day with an adhd brain… more next week ;)

PART 2 IS HERE❤️👬 we’re getting deeper on actual conflicts we’ve faced and how we’ve worked through and learned from them. non monogamy, healing from cheating (not by him), comparing yourself to your partner, having less dating experience, interracial dynamics, and messing up. i dangled the carrot last ep and now it’s time to mf drop it for y’all to wolf it down. munch, truthies, munch munch. comment what y’all want an episode on in 2025! Ask and ye shall receive chapters (0:00) cringe now (1:15) spotify flopped (2:40) open? nonmonogamy? (6:19) main pro of nonmonogamy (8:59) 8.5 year relationship TAKEAWAYS (20:50) ESTEBAN IS BACK! (25:10) importance of vulnerability (28:40) early on bumps in the relationship (30:08) what does communication ACTUALLY mean? (36:00) where I messed up (39:14) example- they can’t read your mind (46:55) CONTEST (51:40) CHEATING and how it sticks with u (56:20) how bad is cheating? (1:01:20) I messed up again :/ (1:06:10) boundaries in a relationship (1:09:50) going back to TAKING (1:11:20) why it’s hard to find a relationship rn (1:14:00) too many CHOICES in dating (1:16:00) comparing your dating past to your partner’s (1:18:45) perks of dating a poc (1:22:10) having no dating experience (1:25:00) what we want in the future (1:27:20) should u date someone similar or different?

THEE RELATIONSHIP EPISODE (part 1, a la Wicked) 💙 i got to interview my favorite person in the world (ok one of them). visual artist, designer, and my BOYFRIEND esteban arellano joins No, So True for this special two-part episode. we talk about how we finally started dating after years of friendship, being seemingly opposite in ways and how it works— u can tell me otherwise, feeling like underdogs in our lives, and how our cultural differences (abundance vs. scarcity mentality, etc.) and upbringings have challenged us to #grow together. oh, and CONFLICT. nst moment: you don't need to stand in your own way to feel like an underdog part 2 next week. no, so true. it’s for u 💁🏻‍♂️ chapters (0:00 ) i had therapy (1:25) the underdog myth, self-sabotaging (7:30) RELATIONSHIPS (8:25) the DMs are open ( 12:40) RESPECTING ur partner (15:00) nonmonogamy?? (17:20) loneliness (19:55) my GUEST (bae) (22:00) gay representation and lack thereof (27:20) esteban's big life change (28:15) Working at an AGENCY (hell), ditching the dream (32:10) jack of all trades and master of none (34:10) is being an “artist” worth it? actually doing “good” work an empathetic boyo (38:30) would u rather be rich or famous? (42:15) being opposites: wanting the spotlight vs. not (45:00) old white people :/ stop appealing to the masses (49:00) abundance vs. scarcity mindset in relationship (52:00) Cultural differences! (56:12) shame for not being white in interracial relationships (58:00) sexual jokes in nonwhite cultures (59:30) starting out as friends, our first date (1:01:30) fixing people (1:03:00) getting REJECTED and FRIENDZONED (1:06:20) HOLDING SPACE for each other, why it wouldn’t have worked (1:07:40) showing your real ass self to someone

we need hope rn (except not >50% of americans i guess).. and this episode will be giving (it). Teachers. We've all had em AND spent most of our pre-adult life outside of family with them (crazy!). In the wake of the election in which we ROYALLY DROPPED THE BALL + SHATTERED IT YET AGAIN, it’s time for a picking-up-the-pieces kind of episode. where do we go from here? how do we LIVE in the CONTEXT of ALL this utter BS? how do we feel and do “good” when it all feels meaningless? In one of my first ever interviews, I talk with MKUNDE MTENGA, 15-year teacher, educator of the year, and self-proclaimed cynic. We talk about what it’s like looking back at her 20s now that she’s 40 (+ available, fellas), how she does one of THEE hardest jobs in the world so damn well, and how to actually keep going when the world’s problems feel overwhelming and make you want to freeze yourself into an ice block for the next 4 years. Feeling lost, pessimistic, numb, hopeless, cynical, and/or MAD? The #conscientious queen herself has a lesson to teach us. And no, it’s not about mitochondria.. CHAPTERS (0:00) WTF America? (4:15) Why I chose a teacher for this one (6:30) Mkunde / Ms. Mtenga (8:30) Teaching is amazing + also the worst (12:40) CONSCIENTIOUSNESS IS KEY (15:35) The importance of not being liked (17:50) NO SO TRUE MOMENT (19:49) Being 40 (23:10) Teaching today (29:20) Lessons on HISTORY (32:00) Being EFFECTIVE and EXCELLENT (36:00) Teaching is so hard (40:15) Optimism and pessimism (42:08) FINDING her career + embracing accidents (46:20) Mkunde’s BEST quotes (49:10) Look good, feel good (52:50) What she’s proudest of (54:20) SURPRISE- THE STUDENTS SPEAK (57:50) I miss it.. feeling purpose

(b)ooo 👻 we are getting personal in this one. how do you deal with feeling undesirable as a poc, queer person, or both, (or i suppose neither)? How do you ACTUALLY deal with rejection besides having your friends tell you how hot you are and f*ck that guy (cause we know that never really works…)? thanks to my good friend, fellow gaysian, and swimmer Daniel Chang (fun fact: one admin in college confused us two), along with many loyal truthies who opted into the discourse on instagram— FOLLOW @NOSOTRUEPOD— we are TALKING about how to deal with that forever-alone feeling that comes with rejection, fetishization, and toxic beauty standards… particularly from wh*te people. Jump scare. Beware. It’s time to get real.... 😈 happy halloween, truthies #dating #sex #20s #lgbt #lgbtq #queer #bipoc #beauty (0:00) intro and why this is important to me (5:06) sexual racism is REAL (8:40) words from LISTENERS! (9:20) a Latina woman's perspective + the algorithm (13:48) a white gay twink's perspective + body image (17:20) other listeners (19:50) Daniel Chang- being judged as a swimmer (22:15) white people as the "prize" + rice queens 🍚👸 (25:55) educating fetishizers (?) + getting out your box (30:10) REJECTION as an Asian (34:30) not subscribing to the standard (39:50) how to feel more confident (43:20) hooking up with a non-white person (45:00) FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU LIKE (48:02) DEALING with rejection (50:10) ADVICE (54:45) Eric's story (57:40) how to CHANGE your sexual preferences and where they come from (1:02:00) Ending: a self-loving Black woman's perspective

One of my all-time favorite comedians DYLAN ADLER is a gaysian top, and we're talking about it (amongst other things). He is a rarity in the industry and in life: a genuine ray of sunshine with kindness and heart. He's a diva, but not that kind of diva. In this very special episode of No, So True, we get into Dylan getting more and more famous + successful, how he fell in love with standup (it's not his first love), going on tour, and using comedy to cope with experiencing rape trauma, connecting him with others with similar experiences. We get personal about sex, gay hookup culture (which isn't always magical and fun), being Asian + dealing with the rice queens, and going from not wanting to be touched to finally feeling liberated and loved in his body and life. wow. no, so true. every other monday. (0:00) intro (2:18) a b*tch can't drive :/ (3:50) how it all started: the dream (7:52) discovering his passion: caw-ma-dee (comedy) (12:15) getting success early on + comparing yourself (17:28) his brat tour life, role models (21:43) his dream + ms. joel kim booster (24:15) f*ck end goals! (26:00) DATING LIFE, first time, being Asian (25:55) experiencing rape trauma  (29:00) coping with comedy, Rape Victims Are Horny Too (32:45) consent + blurred lines in the gay community (38:10) what helped him (it may surprise u) (40:00) falling in LOVE 😍  (45:22) BEING AN ASIAN TOP, rice queens, exploring (48:30) his bully made him want to be famous (51:25) does he want fame? (56:45) the beast of making CONTENT + the haters (59:30) outro #gay #asian #life #gaysian #20s #comedy #comedian #entertainment #funny #love #relationships #sex #hookups #dating #fame #top #bottom #vers

WHY ARE WE ALL IN OUR FLOP ERAS?!! thanks economy :/ Being in your 20s is about embracing the inevitable flop era, which seems to be ever more common nowadays! I know a LOT of people who are flopping, unemployed, unhappily employed, and/or feeling like a TOTAL LOSER post-grad. Relatable! In this episode, special contributor Lucy Devine, brand strategist, joins Eric and spills all the tea on *actually* getting through your flop era in your 20s. We're getting into the tacticals and tips for how to go from flopping to thriving NEOWW. Buckle up, truthies, we're getting real. CHAPTERS (0:00) Intro (2:39) What is a Flop Era? (5:20) Eric's recent flop era (6:55) Our SPECIAL contributor... (8:30) Getting LAID OFF (11:20) Getting your VALUES and PURPOSE in check (12:55) NET-WERKing and finding what's right for you (16:30) Getting your shit together (22:00) What HELPED (26:30) ADVICE TIME (27:20) New York will f*ck u up (29:00) RETHINKING your flop era (32:20) If you're UNEMPLOYED, PRIORITIZE (35:00) How much $ Eric is making.... (36:30) A HACK if u HATE NETWORKING (39:15) If it's just NOT working (42:30) If you're TIGHT on $$$ (44:00) SUMMARY follow @nosotrue on IG and tiktok

MOTHER IS MOTHERING. This episode will send you and your mental health. Honestly, if you’re struggling, LIS👏🏼TEN What does a psychologist and life coach with over 30 years of experience working with young people, queer people, BIPOC people, and ANXIOUS + LOST people have to say to us zillenies? A lot. Dr. Charleanea Arellano is here to SPILL THE FREAKING TEA, "spit bars," and "pop off"— as my friends are saying rn. We're getting into why she's over therapy, why younger people are so fkn anxious and what to do actually about it (hint: it may or may have to do with getting off SOcIaL mEdIa), and how to get through the hardest crises and traumas of our lives. Along the way, she tells us all about how she turned her pain from her childhood trauma into her greatest gifts by leaning in to her deep, internal being that we all have within us. Buckle up, truthies. We're going soul searching. 🚙🚙 Chapters (0:00) Intro (5:27) Life coaching vs. therapy (12:56) Taking ACTION and listening to your body (16:00) Stop living in the EXTERNAL and go INTERNAL and like get tf off your phone (26:15) Finding your anchor (30:02) Dr. Charleanea's childhood and trauma (33:47) Eric's childhood and trauma and wanting to ACHIEVE (39:20) Losing touch with yourself and EXISTENTIAL CRISIS (41:20) Being unhappy with success and feeling empty (45:30) Reconnecting with your inner self (49:00) The NEED to deal with your trauma (53:00) Turning your hardships into gifts (58:55) Why she loves her job everyday (1:00:20) How to get to your PURPOSE (1:04:15) Advice for people in their 20s/30s (1:05:21) Message for LGBTQ+ people

EPISODE 1 IS HERE! Please welcome my good friend/”lil sis” miss SHIRLEY CHEN— actor + artist and STAR of DIDI, a 2000s coming-of-age comedy for anyone who’s ever been a teenager OUT NOW IN THEATERS EVERYWHERE. In this episode, I talk with Shirley about what it is like to finally have her big break (or is it🤔?) after being an actor for 10 years—that’s right, she was one of those “child actors” as they say. She discusses finally letting go of crazy expectations, getting her childhood dream (werk), and embracing the wild uncertainty of this career path that can f*ck you up (my words, not hers). She also gets into her post-college-grad crisis / adulting struggles (RELATABLE!) and how she got to a better place, one place being on the freaking big screen wherever you are. WATCH THIS MOVIE. IT IS SO GOOD, better than “the challengers” imo, but do not come for me. I love her and I think you will love her too. With her whimsical spirit and profound insight alike, she will have you hehe-ing but also saying.. no, so true.