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fiving: an enneagram 5 in progress

My name is Monica, and in the enneagram of personality I’m a self-preservation 5w4. Long story short: I tend to self-sabotage by avoiding vulnerability, observing rather than participating, doubting my knowledge, overanalyzing, minimizing my needs, over-focusing on details, and being stubbornly independent. But I'm tired of getting in my own way. So here I am, opening myself up, taking risks, and sharing reflections and wisdom along the way. With plenty of mixed metaphors and minimal editing—by design and out of necessity.

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    28. Info binges and social needs

    I’m chewing on this question: Are all “information binges” attempts to get social needs met? Reflecting on my most recent period of deep receptivity and the fragments of community I found within it. Use what moves you, let go of the rest. And let me know what resonates.   ✨ Instagram: @un.fiving   [email protected] ✨ Music by Sleeping At Last

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    27. Dating advice for Fives (part 3)

    Learn to recognize the stories that carry fear and keep you from risking close relationships. Reach past them into spirit—toward your highest values and the most expansive and free evolution of yourself. Cultivate your strength and connection to intuition by spending time with your points of power—they could be houseplants, trees, mountains, rivers, or an archetypal guide. The natural world has so much love for you. All you have to do is notice it. ⚡️

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    26. Dating advice for Fives (part 2)

    “You’re gorgeous! And you deserve a relationship that allows you to be gorgeous in the way that only you are and to share your gifts that only you have to give. Anything short of that is short of that.” A continuation of the previous episode, with more detail, exploration, practices for real growth and healing, and answers to listener questions. Let me know what you think! 💗 * Instagram: @un.fiving * [email protected] * or write a review wherever you listen Music by Sleeping at Last ✨

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    25. Dating advice for Fives (part 1)

    This one is all about the first stage of dating: preparing. If you want your dating life to look different or bring a different outcome, take a pause and reorient. I give you a few tips and starting places in this episode, including: - Let your mind know what you’re doing and get its support - Get clear on your what and your why - Make your Mary Poppins list (inspiration: https://youtu.be/fNTzp9grp2Q) - Give your mind work: investigate old patterns, outdated and subconscious operating instructions that have been landing you in not-ideal relationships, research dating apps or other ways of meeting people - Recruit trusted others - Recruit spirit 🔥 Bonus tidbit: Learn to differentiate between attractions from your wound and attractions from essence. Not just in romance, but in attraction of all kinds. When you feel yourself drawn to someone or something, ask yourself if the pull is from your wound (wanting to go back in and try for a different outcome), or from a connection of love, trust, and oneness. If you don’t know, commit to just asking the question. Answers will eventually come, and your life will open up in big ways. 💗 This is the first in a series about relationships: romantic, friendships, and others. If you have specific comments, requests, or questions about relating as a Five, send them my way! Find me on Instagram @un.fiving, send an audio message in Spotify, or email me at [email protected]. Music by Sleeping At Last

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    24. Shift happens

    Announcing a shift: I’m adjusting my focus so that my primary goal is delivering helpful tips, wisdom, reflections, and guidance to help you as you journey along in your Fiveness or search for more insight into Enneagram Fives. I’ll include specific and sometimes personal examples or stories to support that, and still share some personal updates, but I hope to bring a bit of a different energy and focus going forward. That also includes hearing more from YOU, my dear listeners! Reach out! Say hello! Tell me what you want me to talk about, or what you want more clarity around. Share your personal struggles or puzzlements or questions as you live your life as a Five or dig into the Enneagram system itself. Tell me what you think of the podcast. Leave a rating or review. Send me a voice memo by email or through Spotify! I might even give you a shout out or feature you on the podcast. ⚡️ [email protected] Instagram: @un.fiving Send voice messages to me through Spotify: https://anchor.fm/monicabahan/message 💗 Music by Sleeping At Last

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    23. Sometimes clutter is trauma

    Mentions: Euphoria, Harry Potter, Rick Hanson, Tara Brach

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    22. Ebb and flow

    Reflections on breaking norms, hormone surges, right timing, shifting between stability and upheaval, navigating by starlight, the hard work of embodying intentions, and probably a few other things I’m forgetting right now.

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    21. Decluttering, inside and out

    More rambling reflections from this spiral of personal evolution. 💗 Instagram: @un.fiving Music by Sleeping at Last

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    20. Parts of us

    This week I’m wading deeper into parts work and relating to my ever-changing inner states from a place of wholeness. This shift from being merged with a feeling to being in relationship with it is a powerful one: it opens up a world of possibilities and allows the feeling to deliver its message and move on rather than getting stuck and blocking our flow. The more feelings get stuck in us, the less available we are to life, to giving and receiving and experiencing. At the end of the episode I share a super simple way to shift out of the merge state and into wholeness. The more you practice, the more flow you’ll feel. Let me know how it goes! Instagram: @un.fiving Music by Sleeping at Last

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    19. Another prime

    I’m addressing my inner skeptics with gratitude and farewells as I reconnect with forgotten ways of caring for myself.  I'm also exploring how to honor my inner work while stepping into more outer work: expressing, collaborating, connecting, expanding, engaging, impacting, and making bold moves.  We all have so much beauty, love, and creativity to share with the world.  What happens when we set it free?   My question for you:  What love are you keeping to yourself? How can you give it form, let it be known, set it free? Love and gratitude for Grandma Judie and Bonnie Badenoch. Special thanks to Marie Kondo. __ Instagram: @un.fiving Music by Sleeping at Last

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    18. Defang your shame animal

    A simple, fun exercise to shift your relationship to the shame and fear getting in your way and strengthen your connection to what freedom feels like for you.  Let me know if you find it helpful!  Instagram: @un.fiving  Music by Sleeping at Last

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    17. Priming

    I’m taking a step back to look at the forest, then refocusing on the trees.  Setting my values and finding inspiration for the next stretch of my path.  ✨ Mentioned in this episode: Jen Sincero - “In order to kick ass, you must first lift up your foot.” Martha Beck - The idea that a tiny, one degree turn will dramatically change your trajectory over time. Chani Nicholas, a personalized affirmation - “Every time I risk my reputation I feel fortified.” Let me know what lands for you! ✨ Music by Sleeping at Last Production by me, Monica Bahan Follow unfiving on Instagram

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    16. Rest week

    I’m taking it easy this week, surrendering to the needs of my immune system. 🌸    As always, Music by Sleeping at Last Production by me, Monica Bahan

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    15. Independence and self-limitation

    I’ve been noticing how much I try to avoid relying on anyone or anything and how by subconsciously keeping money tight I both reinforce and undermine that avoidance. I desperately want to break these habits, and I think interdependence with others is the path through the independence-dependence tension that tends to trip me up.   🌸    Music by Sleeping At Last   Everything else by me, Monica Bahan   Email: [email protected]   Instagram: @un.fiving

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    14. Coming back with fresh intentions

    Anxiety and self-doubt kept me away, but I’m back and have a few new intentions for the podcast going forward.  🌸   Music by Sleeping At Last  Everything else by me, Monica Bahan  Email: [email protected]  Instagram: @un.fiving

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    13. What fiving means to me (part 2)

    First, more thoughts on the enneagram frame as I experience it:   - Subtypes/instinctual variants: self-preservation (individual), sexual (one-to-one), and social (collective). My attention stack goes in that order: self-preservation first—so I'm a self-preservation subtype of the 5—then sexual, then social. These days I'm focusing more on the social level after leaving it on the back burner for a long time. What does your stack look like?  - (un)fiving: using the enneagram to facilitate change, self-awareness, and acceptance   - 5 things: reading/consulting a bunch of books and having a ton of browser tabs open at any given time   - 5 thing: using imagination to both escape and complement tangible reality   - 5 thing: disappearing, minimizing my presence when I’m stressed or people around me are stressed (and I get the sense I can’t help or have reached the limits of my helpfulness)   - 5 thing: carrying an implicit belief, from the deep past, that I shouldn’t take up space (because I’m not worthy, it’s selfish, it would impose on someone else, yada yada yada—minds make up stories like it’s their job)   - 5 thing (moving toward 8): learning to boldly take up my space, assert my opinions and desires, ask for what I want and need, accept kindness (maybe even compliments, but that feels harder—more on trust soon!) and generosity from others   Also:   A nod to Martha Beck and a small instance of synchronicity / good timing amidst the exhaustion of parenting a toddler.   Appreciation for a kind stranger in a purple sweater.   Gratitude for the sentiment of “no rush”, forever and always.   🌸  I would absolutely love to hear from any other fives, five-adjacent, five-curious, or really anyone inclined to share about if and how these themes play out in your lives too.   Find me on Instagram @un.fiving  Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan  Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving

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    12. What fiving means to me (part 1)

    What I mean when I say I’m an enneagram 5 with a 4 wing (5w4): revisiting the foundational conceptual frame for this podcast. The episode ends with the full song “Five” by Sleeping At Last (with a run time 5:55, of course). Tendencies include:  Hoarding ideas, dreams, favors, credits, intellectual resources and physical materials for just-in-case use in the future. Hiding my vulnerability and retreating into an appropriate social role, especially when I sense meaningful connection isn’t available. Straight up dissociating. This can take several different forms. Sometimes shutting down and going numb and coming back to my experiencing self later.  Getting hung up on details; sometimes not being able to move forward or take a stance if I feel I don’t have a super solid foundation of understanding of something.  Feeling deeply and only finding language for those feelings later, sometimes much much later and the words still feel inadequate.  More in the next episode.  🌸  Are you a five or do you think you could be? Let me know if any of these are true for you.

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    11. I got lost

    It’s been a while. I was coping with a down shift in support, focused on getting through each day without major problems, and working my way through a couple major problems that did crop up, including crises of confidence and direction. I grappled with hormonal chaos and destabilization in my living situation and closest relationships, all while continuing to care for my toddler full time and getting very little sleep. I went deep into 5w4 survival strategies. (More on that coming soon). I’m finding my way back and feeling stronger and wiser for having walked through those fires. I’m feeling optimistic again. My brain and body are too tired to be anxious. Let me know what resonates and what you want to hear more of. 🌸 Background photo by me, Monica Music by Sleeping At Last Production by me, Monica Bahan Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving monicabahan.com 

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    10. Dismantling personality, building self

    A brief follow-up to Episode 9. A reflection on some of the ways I fostered a healthy relationship to self, and how that was necessary for engaging with the enneagram of personality as a channel for growth.  Before you deconstruct your ego you have to build a robust relationship to self so you have somewhere to stand while you do it. I don’t mean developing a static sense of a static self—quite the opposite. It’s about developing a dynamic and ever-evolving set of practices and perspectives concerning Self, your selves’ observable behaviors, acceptance and change.  Now is the best time to start. Begin, continue, begin again.  Mentioned in this episode:       - The Avett Brothers band and their song Shame       - Noting and labeling practice to get to know one’s internal processes (a practice I learned as taught by Shinzen Young)       - The refractory period of an emotion Self-compassion (particularly the work of Kristin Neff)       - Ellen Langer’s (very American) definition of mindfulness as a flexible cognitive state in which one is able to perceive and process new information       - A popular, secular Buddhist definition of mindfulness as a state of intentional and nonjudgmental attention to the present moment (I think this may have originated with Jon Kabat-Zinn, whose book Full-Catastrophe Living was one of my most powerful introductions to formal meditation practice; I can’t recommend his work highly enough)      - Barbara Fredrickson’s broaden and build theory       - The field of Behavior Analysis and the book Self-Directed Behavior by David L. Watson and Roland G. Tharp (I used the tenth edition) for changing behavior       - Sam Harris’ Waking Up app  Let me know what resonates and what you want to hear more about.  🌸     Background photo by me, Monica  Music by Sleeping At Last  Production by me, Monica Bahan  Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving  monicabahan.com

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    9. Reframing gratitude

    Ugh. Are you as tired of hearing about gratitude as I am? No? Cool. Either way, I’m gonna tell you about how buzz words turn me off and how I’ve opened up the concept of gratitude to build something meaningful and essential to my me-ness in a way that works for me. Also a preview of some ideas coming soon: emotional storms and minimizing my presence as a social preservation response.  Let me know what resonates and what you want to hear more of.  🌸     Background photo by me, Monica, the day of recording    Music by Sleeping At Last  Production by me, Monica Bahan  Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving monicabahan.com

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    8. A wet wing moment

    Meandering thoughts—on a meandering walk—on one of my growth edges and the attainability of my goal of financial independence; seeing parallels/metaphors in the natural world.  Let me know what resonates.   🌸    Background photo by me, Monica, the day of editing   Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan Instagram: @un.fiving monicabahan.com

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    7. You can’t go back

    We all yearn to go back sometimes, to when things were good, to when we felt better, to before the loss. We can’t go back. But, if we listen, the yearning can show us the way forward.  I give a few examples of yearning to go back and explore how our fear and loss can point to what we value, what we’re wanting—giving us direction for opening, healing, growing, and connecting.  I also give a quick update on the personal themes from Episode 6.  Mentioned today:  Long exhales  ♥️⚡️🧠 Lisa Dion, founder of Synergetic Play Therapy You have a right to your wound, and to your healing.  Let me know what resonates.   🌸    Background photo by me, Monica, the day before recording   Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan  Listen pretty much anywhere you find podcasts (delayed release on some platforms, so be patient or check elsewhere) Accompanying photos on Instagram: @un.fiving  monicabahan.com

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    6. Dating and decluttering

    I’m approaching dating as a single/solo mom, first conceptually and then in real time (maybe). I have a strong sense that decluttering has to come first—internal and external decluttering, clearing, organizing, and arranging to achieve harmony and carry less baggage. But can dating and decluttering happen simultaneously? I need help.  Mentioned today:  🧠 ♥️🌟 EMDR therapy: stands for Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing. It’s super cool, super effective, and a starting place for so much more interaction between neuroscience, intuition, therapy, and healing.  Let me know what resonates.   🌸    Background photo by me, Monica, the first day of recording   Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan   Accompanying photos on Instagram: @un.fiving  monicabahan.com

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    5. The brain, the enneagram, human design, and a story

    I talk about how I see the enneagram of personality—that we become our type through an interaction of our innate personality and early life experience, and that it’s all about where we get stuck and how to get unstuck; the difference in perspective between the right and left hemispheres of the brain; and the mind in human design. And then I tell a story from my own life—Mother’s Day 2021—that illustrates how these different perspectives came together as I made a major life decision.  Resources mentioned:  🧠 Neuroscience of the two hemispheres: Jill Bolte Taylor’s TED Talk: My stroke of insight & her book "My Stroke of Insight"  🧠 (A seminal book about the hemispheres: Iain McGilchrist's “The Master and His Emissary”)  💫 Go get your human design chart at Jovian Archive.  Let me know what resonates.   🌸    Background photo by me, Monica, the day after recording   Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan   Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving  monicabahan.com

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    4. Open language: your personal lexicon

    Accuracy in language is especially important for we sensitive folk (and maybe even more so for wee sensitive folk ☺️). Pay attention to the words you use, both with yourself and others, and get to know your personal lexicon. Words move you, so choose language that gets you where you want to go. If it lights you up, go there.    When we rely too heavily on the common language of the culture and neglect to form or attend to our own unique lexicons, we limit our imagination and souls’ expression to the narrow frame of cultural consensus. (Blech)    Language forms, informs, moves, matters—your words shape your reality. Choose wisely.  And playfully.    I give you five examples of words/terms and how I like to use them, for now: 1. foresting // getting into the trees, 2. fiving, 3. tinny, 4. tight, 5. noisy.    Let me know what resonates.   🌸    Background photo by Jean: me (Monica) and my daughter the day of recording    Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan   Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving - instagram.com/un.fiving   monicabahan.com

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    3. Shifting frames: exploration and open language

    I felt disoriented and uprooted this week, so I sat by the river and came back to myself. I remembered that my mission with this podcast is exploration in the spirit of freedom and generosity. That clarity brought excitement and inspiration with it, particularly around unpacking language and bits of language that catch my attention—words, phrases, types of words, ways of speaking. Just introducing that mini project today, not diving in yet; I plan to include a series of episodes or segments in that vein, which I’m calling Open Language.    Let me know what resonates.   🌸    Background photo taken by me, Monica Bahan, the day of recording    Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan   Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving  monicabahan.com

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    2. Growth spins

    This is all so new to me! 😬 In the course of recording and preparing this episode, I’ve felt excited, nervous, doubtful, brave, trusting, clear, resonant, free, expansive, exhilarated, delighted, terrified, ashamed, lonely, hopeful, connected, grateful, centered, curious, optimistic, motivated, and inspired.    I talk a little about all that. I reflect on my experience of shifting out of my comfort zone, into challenge, and tripping over into overwhelm—feeling the spins of disorientation, being in unknown waters, and the existential fears that tag along—and a few practices I used to reorient and mosey back into the challenge zone (with several necessary dips into grounding/comfort and connection that I might not have mentioned out loud: cozy socks, long exhales, celebration chocolate, a neighborhood walk, communing with trees, watching clouds, oodles of time with my little one, a hot shower, et cetera).    Refocusing practices   🌿  Naming the fears—the internal feelings, senses, and imagined scenarios that I experienced in overwhelm—first to myself to define the shape of the fears and get some distance, and then to trusted others to get more distance, perspective, and support, and to practice being present, honest, vulnerable, and trusting (unfiving).    🌿  Reframing. These fears are coming up because I’m doing something new and they’re trying to keep me safe (in my comfort zone).    🌿  Considering what it would mean to me if I gave into the fears. It would go against my values. It would keep me small. No thanks.    🌿  Reconnecting with my motivation to grow and challenge myself by doing this new thing. I’m doing this to become more myself, to be free, to let life flow through me, to be generous, to connect, to expand, to help others live more fully, to be a better role model for my daughter. Big motivation.  (Take that, Fear! 💥  Just kidding—I appreciate you trying to keep me safe, aaand now is not your time to lead. You can have a seat over there. 👉 )    Check out the Instagram for diagrams I made of the comfort-challenge-overwhelm relationship. This image can remind me to get myself into my comfort zone lickety-split when I find myself deep in the realm of overwhelm or veering toward when I get swept up in mental processing.    ✨ Use what moves you, let go of the rest. And let me know what resonates.✨    🌸    Background photo taken by me, Monica Bahan, the day of recording    Music by Sleeping At Last    Production by me, Monica Bahan    Accompanying photos and diagrams on Instagram @un.fiving monicabahan.com

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    1. Welcome

    Hellooo! Welcome! My name is Monica, and I’m a self-preservation 5w4 in the enneagram of personality. I’m clearing out internal clutter and stepping out of my cave of self-limitation, sharing reflections and wisdom nuggets along the way. With plenty of mixed metaphors and minimal editing—by intention aaand necessity. Who’s coming with me?   🌸   Music by Sleeping At Last   Production by me, Monica Bahan   Accompanying photos on Instagram @un.fiving monicabahan.com

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My name is Monica, and in the enneagram of personality I’m a self-preservation 5w4. Long story short: I tend to self-sabotage by avoiding vulnerability, observing rather than participating, doubting my knowledge, overanalyzing, minimizing my needs, over-focusing on details, and being stubbornly independent. But I'm tired of getting in my own way. So here I am, opening myself up, taking risks, and sharing reflections and wisdom along the way. With plenty of mixed metaphors and minimal editing—by design and out of necessity.

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