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In This Body
by Ailey Jolie
In This Body is a podcast that explores the hidden impact of the unconscious on our lives. Through conversations with global experts, we reveal the silent stories shaping our experiences, paving the way for genuine change and deeper authenticity. In This Body asks the important questions: How does connecting to your body change your life? How will connecting to your body allow you to love better and live more authentically? And how does connecting to your body change the trajectory of our shared world?
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Wellness Culture And The Myth Of Optimization with Amanda White
When does wellness become another way of trying to fix yourself?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Amanda White, licensed professional counsellor and author of Not Drinking Tonight, to explore how the pursuit of wellness can quietly pull us further away from our bodies. Together, they question the promise that the right routine or enough self improvement will eventually create a version of ourselves who no longer struggles.Amanda shares how her own recovery shaped the way she understands avoidance and our desire to escape uncomfortable experiences. The conversation considers what changes when we stop treating discomfort as evidence that something is wrong and begin developing the capacity to stay present with what we feel.Ailey and Amanda also reflect on the difference between protecting ourselves and avoiding life. Rather than searching for the perfect boundary or healing practice, they explore a more flexible way of relating to ourselves that leaves room for uncertainty and the full range of being human.If you have ever felt exhausted by the pressure to optimise yourself, this conversation offers another possibility: a life built around greater capacity rather than greater control.In this epsiode:4:30 Learning Safety In The Body9:29 Wellness Culture And Optimisation Illusions13:03 Therapy Speak Boundaries And Armour26:13 Recovery Eating Disorders And Substance Use35:05 12-Step What Helps What Limits49:34 Practising Friction In Daily Life1:00:45 Building Discomfort Tolerance That Lasts1:05:17 Closing Reflections And Ways To JoinLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Trusting Your Intuitive Wisdom with Carissa Schumacher
How do you know when to trust what your body is telling you?In part two of this conversation, Ailey welcomes back Carissa Schumacher, a neuroscience trained forensic psychic medium and sacred ceremony facilitator, to explore the relationship between intuition, embodiment, and self trust. Together, they examine how we can reconnect with our inner knowing without losing our grounding.Carissa shares her perspective on the different ways intuition can be experienced and why sensitivity is both a gift and a responsibility. The conversation explores how to distinguish intuition from fear, why boundaries are essential for those who feel deeply, and how our nervous system shapes the way we interpret what we experience.Ailey and Carissa also reflect on healing as a process of integration rather than elimination. They discuss shadow work, shame, and the importance of developing a relationship with every part of ourselves instead of trying to push difficult experiences away.If you have ever questioned your intuition or wondered how to trust yourself more deeply, this conversation offers a thoughtful and grounded place to continue the journey.In this episode:5:21 Dreams Visions And The Seer Path10:58 Feelers Knowers And Psychic Clairs16:01 The Price Of Gifts And Surrender26:14 Sleep Science And Mental Health Nuance43:31 Integration Over Eradication52:02 Interoception Boundaries And Closing InvitationsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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When Life Has Milestones but No Rituals with Carissa Schumacher
What helps us move through life's biggest transitions without losing ourselves?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Carissa Schumacher, a neuroscience trained forensic psychic medium and sacred ceremony facilitator, to explore what it means to navigate change with the body, rather than simply endure it. Together, they reflect on why major life transitions can leave a lasting imprint and how healing becomes possible when we are witnessed through them.Carissa shares how her own experiences with illness, sensitivity, and trauma shaped her understanding of embodiment. The conversation explores the relationship between the physical and the spiritual, offering a grounded perspective on what it means to care for both without losing sight of either.At the heart of the episode is the role of ritual and community. Ailey and Carissa consider what happens when life's thresholds go unnamed, and why grief, loss, and transformation are often easier to carry when they are acknowledged rather than endured alone.If you are moving through change or searching for a deeper way to understand life's transitions, this conversation offers a thoughtful place to begin.In this episode:2:26 Meet Carissa Schumacher5:44 A Gentle Content Note6:20 Hope, Essence, And Stewardship17:11 Childhood Sight Of Spirit23:07 Building Boundaries With Intuition27:49 First Period Without A Rite36:11 Why Rites Of Passage Heal41:53 Everyday Thresholds You Might Miss51:12 Purification, Grief, And Channel Work1:01:08 Liminality, Language, And Listener Next StepsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Embodiment After Shame with Christian Snuffer
What happens when shame becomes the way you experience your body?In this episode, Ailey sits down with psychedelic somatic therapist Christian Snuffer to explore how shame can shape our relationship with ourselves long before we have words for it. Together, they reflect on what it means to lose touch with the body and why healing often begins with simply noticing what has been there all along.Drawing from his work in somatic therapy and psychedelic assisted psychotherapy, Christian shares how we can begin rebuilding trust in our inner experience. The conversation also explores what it means to reconnect with intuition after years of self doubt, and how staying present can become the foundation for lasting change.Rather than searching for a quick transformation, Ailey and Christian consider healing as a gradual return to ourselves. They reflect on the quiet work of integration and the possibility of becoming more open to love, connection, and life itself.If you have ever wondered what it feels like to come home to yourself after shame, this conversation offers a thoughtful and compassionate place to begin.In this episode:5:25 What Being Embodied Means10:10 Intuition And Psycho Spiritual Openness17:35 Leaving Mormonism And Meeting Shame20:46 How Shame Lives In The Body25:22 PSIP And Readiness For Psychedelics38:34 Ketamine As Resourcing Not Escape45:21 Integration That Changes Real Life56:02 Closing Reflections And Ways To ContinueA note: Ailey shares this conversation not as a recommendation but as information. Psychedelics carry real risks, psychological, physical, legal, and aren’t appropriate for everyone. If this is a path you’re interested in, please approach it with care, do your research, and seek appropriate support. This isn’t medical advice or advocating for psychedelic usage. These substances remain illegal in most countries; this is just one perspective in a much larger conversation.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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What Becomes Possible When Yoga Meets Psychology with Dr. Stephanie Minchin
What if your body has been telling the truth all along?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Dr. Stephanie Minchin, clinical psychologist and yoga therapist, to explore what becomes possible when psychology and yoga are brought together as one integrated approach to healing. Together, they examine why insight alone is not always enough, and how the body often holds the missing piece.Stephanie shares how yoga therapy supports people in rebuilding a relationship with themselves through curiosity, nervous system awareness, and gentle embodiment. The conversation explores why healing cannot be rushed, how trauma can reveal itself without words, and what it means to create enough safety for lasting change to unfold.Ailey and Stephanie also discuss the role of Internal Family Systems, offering simple ways to connect with different parts of ourselves through breath, touch, and felt experience rather than relying on the thinking mind alone.If you have ever felt like you understand your patterns but still struggle to feel different, this conversation offers a compassionate and embodied path forward.In this episode:4:43 Why Yoga And Psychology Belong Together11:13 What A Yoga Therapy Session Looks Like18:13 When Talk Therapy Hits A Wall31:13 Big T Trauma Versus Attachment Wounds41:43 Bringing Internal Family Systems Onto The Mat49:13 Breathwork And Interoception PracticesLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Body Confidence That Works with Phillippa Diedrichs
Can a global beauty brand create meaningful change for body image?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Phillippa Diedrichs, PhD, a Professor of Psychology and leading body image researcher at the Centre for Appearance Research, to explore the complex relationship between science, social impact, and the beauty industry. Together, they examine what it means to create evidence based body confidence programs while working alongside global brands, and why discernment matters more than simple answers.Drawing on more than two decades of research, Phillippa shares what truly supports a healthier relationship with the body, challenging common assumptions while offering practical strategies that are grounded in evidence rather than trends. The conversation also turns to the personal cost of purpose driven work, exploring burnout through the lens of the nervous system and why disconnection from the body can be a deeply protective response.Rather than striving for body confidence, Ailey and Phillippa invite a gentler approach rooted in curiosity, compassion, and learning to relate to the body in new ways.If you are looking for a more thoughtful perspective on body image and what genuine change can look like, this conversation offers both practical insight and hope.In this episode:0:00 Welcome And Why Body Image Matters4:25 Working With Big Brands For Change9:22 Holding Corporate Tension With Discernment14:55 Strategic Science And Social Impact18:15 Burnout As A Body-Level No22:32 Coming Back To The Senses25:54 Protective Strategies For Body Image30:17 Tools, Training And Closing ReflectionsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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The Face Beyond Beauty with Shelly Marshall
What is your face communicating beyond what you see in the mirror?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Shelly Marshall, founder of Beauty Shamans and Skin Within Studio, to explore the relationship between beauty, embodiment, and the nervous system. After years working as an aesthetician, registered nurse, and nurse injector, Shelly shares why she ultimately chose to step away from injectables.Together, they unpack how Botox and fillers may influence more than appearance, discussing facial movement, lymphatic flow, inflammation, and the role our expressions play in connection and co regulation. The conversation also explores the growing pressure on women to maintain a youthful appearance and what can be lost when beauty becomes disconnected from the body's natural intelligence.Rather than focusing on quick fixes, Ailey and Shelly offer gentle alternatives that support the face and nervous system, including facial massage, gua sha, fascia care, and lymphatic drainage.If you have ever questioned your relationship with beauty or wondered how cosmetic treatments may influence your connection to yourself and others, this conversation offers a thoughtful and empowering perspective.In this episode:0:00 Welcome And Why Faces Matter8:14 From Aesthetician To Registered Nurse18:45 Botox And Autoimmune Concerns27:28 Facial Mimicry And Co-Regulation32:31 Fillers Explained And Hidden Risks42:45 Beauty As A Class Signifier48:20 Lymph As The Body’s Caretaker52:32 Nightly Rituals Using Touch And SoundLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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The Hidden Cost of Being the Good Girl with Sara Hirsh Bordo
What happens when being "good" comes at the cost of being yourself?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Sara Hirsh Bordo, author of Autoimmunity and the Good Girls, to explore the connection between people pleasing, self abandonment, and chronic illness. Together, they examine how perfectionism, self silencing, and the pressure to keep others comfortable can become long term strategies for survival.Drawing from Sara's personal story and the experiences of thousands of women living with autoimmune disease, the conversation explores how early conditioning shapes our relationship with our bodies, our needs, and our sense of worth. They also discuss the importance of moving beyond trauma comparisons and creating space for every person's experience to be honored.Ailey and Sara examine the relationship between chronic stress, inflammation, and autoimmune disease while emphasizing that illness is never a personal failure. Instead, they explore how self advocacy, nervous system awareness, and learning to disappoint others can become powerful steps toward healing.If you have ever struggled to put yourself first or felt disconnected from your own needs, this conversation offers a compassionate invitation to begin coming home to yourself.In this episode:2:26 Pausing Solo Episodes For Health5:08 What Being In Your Body Means10:54 Performing For Approval And Safety18:58 Trauma Comparisons And Patriarchal Scripts30:02 Receiving Care As A Nervous System Skill37:15 What Changes When You Assert Yourself43:38 Storytelling, Expression, And Identity Crisis52:06 Science, No Blame, And Next StepsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Your Voice Reveals Where Your Body Still Braces with Jordan Dann
What is your voice communicating before you say a single word?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Jordan Dann, a psychoanalysis informed somatic practitioner and relationship therapist, to explore the connection between voice, embodiment, and nervous system regulation. Together, they examine how breath, tone, tension, and resonance shape the way we connect, communicate, and respond to one another.Drawing from her background in theatre and voice work, Jordan explains how the body influences self expression and why the voice can reveal patterns of protection long before we are aware of them. The conversation also explores relationship dynamics, including why conflict can escalate so quickly and how nervous systems interact beneath the surface of everyday conversations.Ailey and Jordan discuss rupture and repair, the physiology of feeling threatened, and the moments that help the body return to safety and connection. They also reflect on therapy culture, validation, and how different healing approaches can support us at different stages of growth.If you want a deeper understanding of communication, relationships, and what your body may already be expressing, this conversation offers a thoughtful place to begin.In this episode:3:59 Defining What Being Embodied Means6:54 From Theatre Training To Trauma Work12:45 Linklater Voice And Releasing Tension20:43 How Tone Shapes Safety In Couples29:01 Rupture And Repair As Body Events45:43 Choosing The Right Therapy Season47:42 Polyvagal Voice Cues And Responsibility51:40 Where To Go Next And How To SupportLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Embodiment Without Force with Alexis Florentina
What if your nervous system is asking to be understood, not managed?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Alexis Florentina, a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, to explore how nervous system regulation has become another form of self improvement, and why that can leave us feeling even more disconnected from ourselves.Drawing from her own experience with chronic illness and medical trauma, Alexis shares a gentler approach to embodiment, one that honors leaving the body as a valid survival strategy and recognizes that healing cannot be forced. Together, she and Ailey explore safety, titration, and the subtle signals that tell us when our nervous system is ready and when it is not.The conversation also unpacks common misunderstandings about regulation, anxiety, and activation, offering a more compassionate perspective on emotions that are often treated as problems to solve. They discuss the difference between stress and trauma, the role of creativity in healing, and why aliveness, not perfect regulation, may be the real measure of healing.If you have ever felt pressure to do embodiment the "right" way, this conversation offers a more spacious and supportive path forward.In this episode:3:35 An Invitation Back To The Body4:16 Lexy's Training And Origin Story11:21 Holism Over Mind Body Polarity16:46 Regulation Isn’t A Task21:47 What Trauma Feels Like Clinically28:15 Writing Creativity And Aliveness37:13 Meeting Fear Without Fixing44:59 Fawning People Pleasing And Needs49:17 Your Body Is Fighting For YouLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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The Body Beyond Belief with Arielle Estoria
What happens when you leave a belief system, but your body is still living by its rules?In this episode, Ailey sits down with poet and spoken word artist Arielle Estoria, author of The Unfolding, to explore faith deconstruction, embodiment, and the journey of coming home to yourself after years of being taught to be smaller.Arielle shares how embodiment became tangible through everyday choices, from embracing her natural hair to redefining movement, beauty, and self trust on her own terms. Together, she and Ailey explore the grief of losing community when belonging is tied to belief, and the freedom that can emerge when life expands beyond rigid definitions of right and wrong.The conversation also examines the nervous system impact of religious conditioning and how healing often happens through small, repeated experiences of safety, creativity, and authentic connection.Throughout the episode, Arielle offers practical tools for reconnecting with the body, including journaling, movement, interoception, self expression, and learning to trust your own inner knowing.If you are navigating religious trauma, self acceptance, or the challenge of trusting yourself again, this conversation offers language, permission, and a gentler path forward.In this episode:3:09 What Being In Your Body Means7:41 Growing Up Baptist And Feeling Small13:43 How Conditioning Shapes The Nervous System16:05 Artistry As A Way Home19:23 Faith Deconstruction And Conditional Belonging29:42 Being Loved Without Shrinking35:14 Telling Fear From A True No46:33 The Permission Slips She Wanted SoonerLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Reproductive Grief And Embodiment with Ailey Jolie
What happens when the grief carried inside the reproductive body is never fully named?In this solo episode, Ailey speaks to miscarriage, endometriosis, adenomyosis, infertility, reproductive surgery, and the quiet grief so many people are forced to hold alone. Drawing from both her clinical work and personal experience, she explores what it means to live in a body shaped by pain, loss, diagnosis, and scar tissue.Ailey examines how easily self trust can erode when symptoms are dismissed and answers are delayed, and how that experience impacts the nervous system and relationship to the body itself. She also explores the growing conversation around endocrine disrupting chemicals, reproductive health, and the complex realities many women are navigating inside modern environments.From there, the episode moves into pregnancy, miscarriage, ambiguous loss, and the ways grief can remain invisible when there is no ritual, language, or collective witnessing around it.This conversation offers a compassionate and grounded space for anyone navigating reproductive grief, chronic pain, or a changing relationship with their body.In this episode:2:53 Naming Reproductive Loss Out Loud11:58 The Bigger Pattern In The Data22:48 When Systems Shift Blame Onto Women32:37 Miscarriage As Postpartum In The Body40:22 Microplastics In Placentas And Loss45:33 Surgery, Scar Tissue And Proprioception49:03 Healing Through Witnessing And Choice53:18 Where To Go Next And ShareLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Beneath the Rage with Vanessa Bennett
What if anger is not the final destination, but the doorway to something deeper?In this episode, Ailey sits down with depth psychologist and author Vanessa Bennett to explore the complexity of anger, healing, and what happens when righteous rage becomes the place we live. Together, they examine how anger can protect us while also shielding us from deeper emotions waiting underneath.Vanessa shares how Jungian psychology, embodiment, and somatic healing can work together to create a more expansive understanding of trauma and identity. The conversation explores inherited pain, collective patterns, and the difference between ego work and deeper soul work, especially in today’s online healing culture.Ailey and Vanessa also unpack Vanessa’s “Trinity Wounds”: the witch wound, sister wound, and mother wound, and how they quietly shape relationships between women through mistrust, competition, and disconnection.This episode offers a grounded and nuanced look at healing, one that honours the reality of harm while also asking what becomes possible when anger no longer has to carry everything alone.In this episode:4:00 Safety And Stability In The Body7:25 Why Depth Somatics Feels Different9:54 Collective Unconscious And Shared Pain21:53 Ego Work Versus Soul Work33:12 The Witch Sister Mother Wounds44:16 Why The Enemy Within Is Hard47:02 Righteous Rage Versus Real Power58:04 Owning Your Part Without BlameYou can read the full transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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How Shame Impacts Intimacy with Aleksandra Trkulja
What if pleasure is not about learning new techniques, but learning how to feel safe in your body?In this episode, Ailey sits down with sex therapist and sexologist Aleksandra Trkulja to explore the connection between body image, nervous system regulation, and intimacy. Together, they unpack why shame, self criticism, and disconnection from the body can create real barriers to pleasure, arousal, and desire.Aleks shares insights from her work in eating disorder recovery and explains how control can begin to feel like safety. The conversation also explores the fawn response in sex, the difference between compliance and consent, and why learning your body’s subtle signals can transform the way you relate to intimacy.From there, Ailey and Aleks move into practical ways to reconnect with desire, beginning outside the bedroom through everyday experiences of pleasure, sensation, and preference. They also discuss co regulation, trauma informed pacing, and the role the nervous system plays in connection and sexuality.If you have ever felt disconnected from your body or unsure how to access pleasure in an embodied way, this conversation offers a compassionate and grounded place to begin.In this episode:4:41 Why Body Hate Blocks Pleasure 11:01Eating Disorders And False Control17:08 Body Image Patterns In Sex20:53 Shame Based Messages About Sex28:03 Desire As A Relearned Skill34:15 Trauma Informed Safety And Pace40:22 Co Regulation In Intimacy45:19 Curiosity Over ShameYou can read the full transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Staying In Your Body Through Chronic Illness with Dr. Ann Saffi Biasetti
What if your body is not betraying you, but asking for a different kind of relationship?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Dr. Ann Saffi Biasetti, psychotherapist, yoga therapist, and mindfulness teacher, to explore what it means to stay connected to the body through chronic illness, pain, and uncertainty. Together, they unpack the grief of living in a culture that treats the body like a machine to fix rather than something to listen to.Ann shares why the phrase “your body never meant you any harm” can become a doorway back to embodiment. The conversation explores body forgiveness, the power of language, and how certain narratives can either deepen connection or create more fear and distance from ourselves.Ailey and Ann also discuss medical gaslighting, self advocacy, and the harm of reducing complex illness to trauma alone. Throughout the episode, Anne offers a gentler and more compassionate approach to healing rooted in consistency, relationship, and care.If you are navigating illness, exhaustion, or a changing relationship with your body, this conversation offers a softer way back to yourself.In this episode:4:05 What Being In Your Body Means9:29 The Phrase That Softened A Room 15:28 What Body Forgiveness Really Is20:52 Union With Body During Illness38:39 Trauma Talk Without Self-Blame53:27 Self-Compassion And The Trembling Heart1:00:42 Language, Interoception And ClosingYou can read the full transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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A Map of Somatic Therapy Approaches with Ailey Jolie
What if somatic work is not failing you, but simply not the right approach for your body?In this solo episode, Ailey explores how somatics has become a catch all term for healing, and why that can lead to harm when practices are used without context. As a somatic psychologist, Ailey has seen how well meaning embodiment work can overwhelm the nervous system instead of supporting it.Ailey offers a clear map of different somatic therapy approaches so you can better understand what you have tried and why it may or may not have worked. We look at expression based methods, as well as slower, more regulated approaches that prioritize safety, awareness, and integration.The takeaway is simple and relieving. If somatic work has not helped, you are not broken. You may have been given the wrong tool for your history.If you are navigating healing or trying to understand your nervous system, this conversation offers a more informed and compassionate path forward.In this episode:0:00 Welcome And Why A Somatics Map3:48 When Somatic Work Makes You Worse8:38 Lineage: The Missing Context13:28 Soma Definition And Western Scope19:38 Catharsis Lineage And Its Risks32:03 Feldenkrais And Hakomi Slower Work40:38 Woodman And The Body’s Story46:38 Levine And Somatic Experiencing51:38 Choosing ToolsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Navigating the Psychedelic Landscape with Valeria McCarroll
What if psychedelic healing is not just about the experience, but about what your body can actually integrate?In this episode, Ailey sits down with Valeria, a counselling psychologist and depth practitioner, to explore the realities of psychedelic assisted therapy beyond the hype. We name the parts often left out of the conversation, including harm, power, and the complexity of what comes after.We talk about harm reduction in a practical way, from dose and physiology to the importance of the guide’s worldview in shaping the experience. We also explore the gaps in training that continue to surface, especially around consent, somatics, and relational dynamics.Ailey shares her own experience with MDMA assisted therapy, including the question of whether we can fully consent to something that may fundamentally change us.We also look at integration as the real work, and why the period after a journey can be one of deep vulnerability without the right support.If you are curious about psychedelic work, or navigating a meaningful experience, this conversation offers a more grounded and honest perspective.In this episode:0:00 Safety Notice And Show Premise7:58 Psychedelics Can Heal And Harm16:08 Sexuality Consent And Guide Vetting20:53 Why Ritual Changes The Journey29:32 The Consent Paradox In Practice40:15 Power Individualism And The Guru Trap52:57 Integration Takeaways Book And ClosingYou can read the full transcript here.A note: Ailey shares this conversation not as a recommendation but as information. Psychedelics carry real risks, psychological, physical, legal, and aren’t appropriate for everyone. If this is a path you’re interested in, please approach it with care, do your research, and seek appropriate support. This isn’t medical advice or advocating for psychedelic usage. These substances remain illegal in most countries; this is just one perspective in a much larger conversation.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Regulation as Capacity Not Constant Calm with Rebekah Ballagh
What if understanding your patterns is not the same as changing them?In this episode, I’m joined by Rebekah Ballagh, a counsellor, somatic and nervous system coach, and author, to explore the gap between insight and real change. The place where the mind understands, but the body does not yet feel safe enough to follow.Rebekah shares her experience with panic and illness, and how it revealed the limits of purely cognitive tools. We talk about intellectualising as a form of protection, and explore parts work through the lens of Internal Family Systems, especially the tension between the part that wants to heal and the part that resists.We also look at the swing between anxiety and freeze, and how patterns that look like avoidance or laziness are often rooted in survival. From there, we unpack somatic practices, what actually works, and why regulation is not about being calm, but about building capacity to stay with what is real.If you have ever felt stuck despite doing all the work, this conversation offers a more compassionate and embodied way forward.In this episode:3:53 What Being In Your Body Means 9:45 When Therapy Training Helps And Hurts16:17 Working With The Intellectualiser21:00 Parts Work And IFS Made Simple29:50 Somatics Online And Lost Nuance39:41 Pendulation Titration And Minimum Dose 47:23 Nothing Is Broken In You49:16 Closing Reflections And Inbody InvitationYou can read the full transcript here.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Emotional Sobriety with Laura McKowen
Alcohol can look like the problem, until you notice what it was solving. In this episode, Ailey is joined by writer and speaker Laura McKowen, founder of The Luckiest Club and author of We Are The Luckiest, for a conversation that begins with sobriety and opens into something deeper. Embodiment, shame, appetite, and the hidden intelligence behind the ways we cope.We explore how alcohol can both numb and, at times, create access to sensation when the body feels out of reach. From there, we look at the quiet triangle many people live inside, moving between substances, food, and relationships in search of safety.We talk about cross addiction and why removing the substance does not remove what is underneath. And we move into the tender terrain of relationships, where emotional sobriety asks how we stay connected without losing ourselves.We also touch on writing as a tool for healing, and how giving language to our experience can support deeper integration.If you are exploring sobriety, patterns of coping, or what it means to come back into relationship with yourself, this conversation offers a compassionate place to land.In this episode: 1:32 What Embodiment Means Here7:39 The Story Behind We Are The Luckiest18:07 Writing As A Way Back23:09 Addiction And Embodiment Intertwined32:57 Desire Shame And Addiction Language41:25 Cross Addiction And Emotional SobrietyYou can read the full transcript here.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Your Body Is Not An Adversary, It Is Home with Abigail Rose Clarke
What if coming home to your body feels unfamiliar because you were taught to see it as something outside of you?In this episode, Ailey sits down with somatic educator, author, and artist Abigail Rose Clarke to explore what embodiment actually is beneath the noise. Not a concept to master, but a practice of curiosity, presence, and relationship rooted in lived sensation.We talk about what pulls us away from ourselves, from objectification to self surveillance, and the cultural belief that the body is something to fix. Abigail offers a powerful reframe: the body is not against you, the body is you.From there, we expand into ecosomatics, exploring how connection deepens when we remember we are part of a larger living system. Through breath, sensation, and the senses, she offers grounded ways to return to the body.We also challenge the consumer driven version of wellness and the idea that embodiment is about optimisation. Instead, this conversation invites a more relational and collective approach to being human.If you are longing to feel more connected to yourself in a real and lasting way, this conversation offers a place to begin.In this episode:0:00 Welcome To In This Body8:20 Returning Home After Disconnection15:45 Ecosomatics And Earth As Home24:01 Senses As A Way Back33:42 Why Embodiment Is Political37:06 From Self Optimisation To Liberation40:08 The GROWL Method Explained45:55 A Daily Grounding PractiseLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Botox Changes How You Feel And Read Others with Ailey Jolie
What if Botox is not just changing how you look, but how you feel and connect?In this episode, Ailey explores the quiet bind many women live inside, where beauty culture tells you your body is a problem to fix, and wellness culture tells you it is something to optimise. Both can sound supportive, yet both can pull you away from your lived experience.Using Botox as an entry point, we look at research on facial feedback, emotional processing, and how expression shapes connection. She also shares clinical insights from somatic work, where micro expressions and co regulation are central to how we relate.From there, we move into real life. Dating, friendships, and early attachment, exploring how reduced facial responsiveness may impact how we read and feel with one another. We also touch on objectification, interoception, and how self monitoring can distance you from your body long before any intervention.This conversation invites you to step out of the cycle of fixing and into something quieter and more honest. Learning to listen. Learning to feel. Learning to be in your body.In this episode:0:00 Welcome To In This Body2:25 The Beauty And Wellness Bind9:54 Facial Feedback In Therapy16:16 When Symptom Relief Hides Danger18:47 The Research On Emotion And Botox30:14 Objectification Cuts Interoception35:34 Wellness Culture Rebrands Self Surveillance40:51 Leaving The Loop Through PresenceLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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What If Self-Worth Is the Medicine You Are Missing with Dr. Tracy Shevell
What if the reason you struggle to speak up in medical spaces is not weakness, but your body recognizing it is not safe?In this episode, Ailey Jolie is joined by Dr. Tracy Shevell, a maternal fetal medicine specialist and women’s health advocate, to explore what happens when women enter rushed healthcare systems and leave unheard. Drawing from her experience as both a physician and a patient, Tracy shares how easily voices get lost, even when the stakes are high.We talk about self advocacy, why women often freeze or fawn with authority figures, and simple ways to prepare for appointments so you can be heard. We also explore physician burnout and how broken systems impact care on both sides of the room.From there, we expand into a more holistic view of health, one that includes emotional support, community, and nervous system awareness. Tracy connects the dots between trauma, chronic illness, and autoimmune conditions, and shares what trauma informed care can look like when dignity and choice are centered.If you have ever left an appointment feeling dismissed or unsure how to advocate for yourself, this conversation offers both language and practical support.In this episode:2:27 Meet Dr. Tracy Shevell4:40 Feeling At Home In Your Body10:34 Self-Worth As Core Healthcare14:26 How To Get More From Visits19:20 Moral Injury Inside Modern Medicine25:54 Spirituality, Ritual, And Miracles36:12 How Birth Shaped Tracy’s Faith42:19 Birth Fear, Extremes, And Isolation47:58 Why Long-Term OBGYN Care Matters51:51 Trauma-Informed Gynaecology That Respects You1:02:22 Integration, Resources, And ClosingYou can read the full transcript here.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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What If Healing Your Nervous System Changes A Lineage with Dr. Genevieve von Lob
What if the hardest moments in parenting are the ones pointing you back toward yourself?In this episode, Ailey Jolie sits down with Dr. Genevieve von Lob, a clinical psychologist whose work weaves together trauma, mindful parenting, and embodied healing. She shares her journey back into the body, and the role that protection, not failure, plays in our patterns.We explore the reality of parenting sensitive or strong willed children, how our nervous systems shape connection, and why authenticity creates more safety than trying to get it right. We also touch on shame, inherited patterns, and the importance of being witnessed in community.If you are learning to meet yourself while raising someone else, this conversation offers a steady and compassionate place to land.In this episode:0:00 Welcome To Embodiment Work3:45 Brief, Numbness And Coming Back8:12 Why Parenting Starts In The Body13:20 Triggers, Guilt And The Lost Village18:18 Resonance, Congruence And Repair26:17 Shame In The Body And Lineage31:55 Collective Healing And Spiritual Intelligence55:03 Closing InvitesYou can read the full transcript here.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Tracing The Echoes Of Inherited Trauma with Mark Wolynn
What if your biggest fear isn’t a flaw, but an echo from a story that began before you were born? In this episode, Ailey Jolie sits down with Mark Wolynn, author of It Didn’t Start With You, to explore how inherited trauma can shape our fears, patterns, and relationships.Mark shares how intergenerational stress can be passed through families, why symptoms often appear around key life milestones, and how language can reveal whether a struggle comes from personal experience or generational roots. Together, we explore practical ways to heal even when family members are unavailable or unsafe, using imagery, photographs, and simple practices that help the body move toward safety.If you’ve ever felt fear that seems bigger than your story, this conversation offers language, insight, and tools to help you meet what you carry with compassion and agency. If this resonates, subscribe, share, and leave a review.In this episode:0:00 Welcome And Embodiment Frame4:11 Introducing Mark Wolynn And His Work6:53 What Being In The Body Means15:03 From Mice To Humans: The Science Arrives25:53 Defining Inherited Trauma Through Stories30:48 Ages, Milestones, And Symptom Triggers41:43 Healing Without Re-Entering Harm46:43 Positive Experiences That Rewire52:43 Blending Science And The Spiritual56:28 The Core Language Approach In PracticeYou can read the full transcript here.Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Understanding Sexual Trauma Through The Body’s Wisdom with Ailey Jolie
What if the responses that seem most confusing after sexual violence are actually the body’s most intelligent survival strategies?In this episode, Ailey explores how culture has taught women to doubt their instincts and how institutions have historically silenced survivors. She unpacks what truly happens in the nervous system during trauma, including tonic immobility, dissociation, the fawn response, and why arousal during assault can be a protective reflex rather than desire.Through the lenses of betrayal trauma, complex PTSD, and the window of tolerance, this episode examines why awareness can be delayed, why leaving can feel impossible, and how survival patterns often get misread as consent. Ailey also explores the links between sexual trauma, hypersexuality, eating disorders, and intergenerational patterns.This is a compassionate guide to understanding survival so shame can give way to clarity, and healing can begin from the inside out.In this episode:0:00 Setting Intentions For A Hard Topic4:41 Why Disbelief Persists Culturally12:43 How Culture Primes The Body19:01 Betrayal Trauma And Not Knowing25:23 Why Leaving Isn’t Simple37:28 Delayed Disclosure And Shame42:48 Institutional Betrayal And Justice48:14 Complex PTSD And The Window Of Tolerance53:56 Hypersexuality As Adaptation1:00:48 Eating Disorders, Body Image, And TraumaYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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From Mindfulness To Bodyfulness With Christine Caldwell
What if the most radical thing you can do for your life and relationships is to feel your body right now? In this episode, we’re joined by somatic psychotherapist and movement pioneer Christine Caldwell to explore bodyfulness, the embodied counterpart to mindfulness, and why attention belongs in sensation, not just thought.Christine shares how her work integrating dance therapy, body psychotherapy, and Buddhist practice led to founding the Somatic Counselling program at Naropa University. We explore how culture trains disconnection, how language reinforces the mind body split, and how returning to direct experience changes the way we act. She introduces the Moving Cycle of awareness, integration, and natural action, along with a simple practice she calls breathe, move, sense. We also touch on the influence of Thich Nhat Hanh and her book Conscious Moving.If mindfulness has felt incomplete, this episode offers a grounded path back to your own skin. If it resonates, subscribe, share, and leave a review.In this episode:0:00 Welcome and Meet Christine4:10 I Am My Body, Not In It8:23 Synthesising Dance, Bodywork, And Psychology12:59 Why Fields Became Siloed17:43 Defining Bodyfulness Beyond Prescriptions23:46 Technology, Consumerism, And Disembodiment28:59 The Moving Cycle: Origins And Phases33:51 Physical Free Association In Practice38:40 Buddhism, Attention, And Everyday Practice43:44 Enlightened Body And Sensorimotor Loop47:55 A Doorway: Breathe, Move, SenseYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Reclaiming Pleasure After Years Of Disconnection with Emma-Louise Boynton
What if the thing blocking pleasure isn’t technique, but a long war with your own body? In this episode, we talk with Emma-Louise Boynton, creator of Sex Talks and author of the forthcoming book Pleasure, about her journey from disconnection to desire, and the moment she realized pleasure and self conflict cannot coexist.We explore how naming shame softens it, why body neutrality can be more sustainable than forced positivity, and how slowness and safety help the nervous system open to arousal. We also challenge cultural sex scripts and reframe sexual liberation as the freedom to choose what truly honours your body and heart.If you’ve ever wondered if you are just not a sexual person, this episode offers language, tools, and hope. Start small. Pleasure grows where pressure eases. If this resonated, subscribe, share, and leave a review.In this episode:0:00 Welcome & Embodiment Mission4:06 The Dinner Party Confession12:53 Disembodiment & Pleasure Capacity24:55 Shame, Silence, And Sex Scripts31:15 From War To Body Neutrality37:28 Learning Desire And Boundaries41:49 Beauty Myths And Control50:49 Debunking Sex MythsYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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What If Safety Is Costing You Aliveness with Courtney Smith
What if the wisest part of you isn’t your thinking mind, but the sensations already alive in your body? In this episode, executive coach and Enneagram expert Courtney Smith joins us to explore how fear quietly shapes our choices and how learning to feel what’s here now can restore agency, presence, and pleasure.Courtney shares her path from Yale Law and McKinsey to a body first approach blending the Enneagram, conscious leadership, and somatic awareness. We unpack three core fears: loss of security, approval, and control, and how they keep us looping familiar conflicts and drama triangle roles.We move into practice by welcoming fear, tracking it in the body, and asking, If I weren’t scared, what would I be doing? We also explore pleasure as information, not indulgence, but a compass toward aliveness and truth.You’ll leave with tools to notice sensation, spot fear driven patterns, and choose presence over performance. If this resonated, subscribe, share, and leave a review, then ask yourself: if fear disappeared for one hour, what would you choose?In this episode:0:00 – Opening And Embodiment Mission5:14 – From Head To Body-Based Presence10:02 – Enneagram Beyond Typing16:42 – Presence Begins With Sensation23:57 – Bypassing With Self‑Knowledge28:53 – Why Growth Is Uncomfortable34:55 – Socialisation, Fear, And Scripts41:48 – The Drama Triangle ExplainedYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Undoing The Gaze with Ailey Jolie
In this solo episode of How To Be In This Body, Ailey Jolie reflects on carrying breast implants for 15 years and the moment she finally had enough capacity to hear the “no” she couldn’t access almost two decades ago. This is a conversation about consent, power, and why trauma tools designed for single events often fail to address lives shaped by repetition, surveillance, and the gaze.Ailey explores how trauma research centered on male bodies overlooks a common female experience: disembodiment without a clear origin story. From self-objectification to the dulling of interoception, she traces the cultural and clinical forces that teach bodies to doubt their own knowing.Rather than chasing perfect regulation, this episode reframes healing as capacity—the ability to feel fear, grief, and hope while still moving toward what is right. Distinguishing “scoreboard” healing from “story” healing, it invites a different question: not what broke you, but what you were shaped to hold. This episode is for anyone who’s tried every somatic tool and still feels far from home.In this episode:Opening And Embodiment MissionThe Gap In Trauma TheoryA Child’s Wish And Split SurvivalPatterning Danger And AdolescenceViolations In Medicine And AftermathSelf‑Objectification And Losing InteroceptionBeauty Culture’s Profitable WoundsChoosing Explant And Choosing TrustRepair Through Consent And CareYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Stories The Body Won’t Let Us Forget with Hala Alyan
What if the stories your body carries are the map back to belonging? In this conversation with Palestinian–American poet and clinical psychologist Hala Alyan, we explore how narrative, trauma, and the nervous system meet inside a living body. Hala shares how displacement shaped her love of books and oral histories, why writing still arrives as mystery, and how creative practice can offer coherence when life feels scattered.We move beyond buzzwords to talk about embodiment as a political act—how storytelling becomes witness and resistance when institutions fail. Hala offers practical ways to return to your body: hand over heart, 4-7-8 breathing, hot baths without a phone, and the simple mantra “this is just what’s happening.” She also unpacks why perfectionism makes somatics feel inaccessible and how choosing to feel—even discomfort—builds resilience.This episode is for anyone curious about creativity as healing, building distress tolerance, and holding grief and agency at the same time. Expect clear language, grounded tools, and gentle guidance for reconnecting to your body and your story.In this episode:0:00 – Welcome And Episode Setup3:37 – Narrative As A Unifying Thread9:53 – How Narrative Works In The Body14:46 – Displacement, Reading, And Early Survival20:47 – Creativity As Conduit And Mystery30:17 – Safety, Downregulation, And Rewriting36:52 – Storytelling As Survival And Alliance42:12 – Memory, Erasure, And Resistance49:07 – Embodiment As Political PracticeYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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From Yoga Mat To Therapy Room: Embodiment, Burnout, And Belonging with Megan Campbell
What if a devoted practice is quietly pulling you away from your body instead of deeper into it. In this episode, we sit down with Megan Campbell, yoga teacher, trainer, retreat leader, and psychotherapist, to explore what embodiment really asks of us beyond perfect poses or polished language.Megan shares how grief surfaced unexpectedly through practice, the allure and limitations of modern wellness culture, and the steady courage it took to move from the studio into the therapy room. Together, we examine the ways embodiment can become performative, and how returning to sensation, cycles, and nervous system awareness creates a safer path back to self.This conversation offers a compassionate look at healing that values both story and somatics, honors fluctuation rather than fixing, and reminds us that sometimes the most therapeutic move is to slow down and feel more, not do more.In this episode: 0:00 – Setting The Embodiment Intent7:08 – Teaching Early And Finding Voice10:02 – Women’s Bodies, Ritual, And Safety17:06 – Seasons, Cycles, And Chakras20:28 – Naming Burnout And Aging Out27:32 – Pedestals, Patriarchy, And Credit34:27 – Fixing The Body Or Feeling It39:42 – Seeing Nervous Systems In Motion45:42 – Windows Of Tolerance In PracticeYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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What If Your Body Is Where The Divine Lives with Brandon Nappi
What if your body isn’t a barrier to spirituality, but the place where the sacred actually meets you. This is the heart of the conversation with spiritual teacher and retreat leader Brandon Nappi, whose work weaves together Christian mysticism, Zen practice, and somatic healing.Together, we explore a spirituality that is grounded, honest, and lived through the body. Brandon shares how his understanding of faith was transformed through contemplative practice and relationship, learning to hold both insight and belovedness at once. We name the ways body and spirit have been divided through history, and we also remember the quieter traditions that insisted on an embodied faith.This episode offers a practical, compassionate invitation to begin where sensation and breath are available, to build capacity through daily practice, and to meet discomfort without bypassing it. For anyone engaged in leadership, healing, or inner work, this conversation is a reminder that the body can be a place of refuge, devotion, and return.In this episode: 0:00 – Welcome And Embodiment Framing3:26 – Body As Home: Defining Embodiment 11:11 – Meeting Buddhism And Somatics16:43 – Practice Grounding: Zazen And Breath22:24 – How The Body Was Split From Spirit29:27 – Slow Repair: Somatics And Unlearning32:42 – Men’s Work: From Fragility To Feeling39:34 – Why Spirit Still Matters In Somatics46:00 – The Bandage Story: Sitting With PainYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Why People-Pleasing Isn’t Kindness: Healing The Fawn Response With Dr Ingrid Clayton
In this episode of How To Be In This Body, we explore the fawn response as an adaptive survival strategy (not a character flaw) and trace a gentle path from self-abandonment back to self-contact. Dr. Ingrid Clayton, clinical psychologist and author, brings together clinical insight, lived experience, and practical tools for building internal safety and reducing shame.Together, Ailey and Ingrid unpack how fawning develops, why danger can feel familiar, and how our bodies learn to prioritize connection over selfhood. This conversation offers compassion, language, and embodied understanding for anyone who has learned to appease in order to survive and who is ready to begin coming home to themselves.In this episode:0:00 – Embodiment And Show Welcome1:47 – Meet Dr Ingrid Clayton8:16 – Agency, Validation And Reclaiming Story16:28 – The Missing Discourse On Fawning20:26 – Codependency Versus Trauma Response23:27 – How Fawning Feels In The Body28:34 – From Self-Abandonment To Self-Contact34:57 – Fawning In The Therapy Room 41:34 – Trust Your Body’s Unique Path44:27 – Everyday Practices For RegulationYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Who Am I When I'm Not Needed: Health, Identity, and the End of Performing with Ailey Jolie
Join Ailey Jolie for a raw and personal solo episode of How To Be In This Body. In this New Year's reflection, Ailey shares what happened when her body stopped letting her perform; a year of health crises, the real story behind her viral posts, and the decision to focus her attention on her upcoming book and course INBODY. In this episode, she explores what it means to let go of an identity built around being needed, why she's done setting goals from the neck up, and the question she's carrying into this year: how do I actually want to spend my time? This episode is for anyone in their own season of stopping, listening, or questioning what comes next. In this episode: 0:00 – Welcome and Embodiment Focus 1:16 – New Year Messaging Challenged 3:06 – Illness as Unwanted Teacher 8:15 – Writing from Inside the Body 10:31 – Calm Versus Capacity 22:31 – Stopping the Performance 26:00 – Self-Regulation Needs Co-Regulation 33:20 – Holding Less to Live More 39:20 – Capacity, Fawn Response, and NeedsYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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The Body Knows: Healing, Hypervigilance, and the Pace of Trust with Ailey Jolie
Join Ailey Jolie for a tender and personal solo episode of In This Body, where she weaves a health update, insights from a sacred MRI, and listener questions into a nuanced meditation on embodiment. Ailey explores the delicate terrain between anxiety and intuition, the truth about hypervigilance and self-trust, and how regulation can sometimes be disguised compliance. She reflects on the role of anger as sacred information, the necessity of honoring the body’s pace, and the deep practice of meeting life without forcing it. Through her own story, she invites you to listen more deeply; to yourself, to your body, and to the spaces in between. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:01:00 – Personal Journey through medical Challenges03:18 – The Importance of listening to the Body07:53 – Navigating Intuition vs. Anxiety 10:32 – Understanding Hypervigilance and Nervous System Regulation 28:29 – Navigating Disconnection and Cultural Norms 32:25 – Understanding the Threat of Embodiment Work37:16 – Distinguishing authentic Needs from Conditioning 41:08 – The Challenge of receiving Love45:06 – Authentic Regulation vs. Comliance49:15 – Reclaiming Anger without bypassingYou can read the transcript hereLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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The Art of Listening Within: Internal Family Systems & Inner Peacekeeping with Mariel Pastor
Join Ailey Jolie and Mariel Pastor, therapist, trainer, and creator of Character Mapping, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation moves through the heart of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy; exploring how self-energy, parts work, and somatic presence can bring us into deeper peace with ourselves and with one another. Mariel shares reflections on spiritual embodiment, cultural conditioning, and the healing power of love in therapeutic spaces. Together they speak to the nuanced relationship between trauma and creativity, the sacredness of the client-clinician connection, and how healing opens us to both tenderness and aliveness. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode: 02:04 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS) 08:11 The Systemic Nature of Mind, Body, Spirit, and Culture 12:09 Navigating the Challenges of IFS 18:02 The role of Somatics in IFS Practice 26:03 The importance of Connection in Therapy 34:14 The Role of Nature in Healing 37:21 Creativity and Healing: a deep Connection 39:34 The importance of doing our own Work 443:53 Artists and the wounds of Creativity 52:09 The Nuances of Performance in TherapyYou can read the show transcript hereTo find out more about Mariel:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Trauma, Tradition, and our Body’s Wisdom with Jambo Truong
Join Ailey Jolie and Jambo Truong, bodyworker, yogi, clinician, and mystic, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation journeys into the rich intersection of yoga, trauma recovery, and spiritual ritual—exploring how forest yoga can become both a refuge and a catalyst for transforming self-loathing into embodied presence. Jambo shares his story of growing up between East and West, the healing potential of holding poses long enough to meet what’s hidden, and how mantra, tantric practice, and somatic awareness can root us more fully in our bodies. Together, they reflect on spiritual sovereignty, compassion as an embodied frequency, and how to meet discomfort with curiosity rather than escape. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:02:48 – What It Means to Be Present and Embodied03:45 – Bridging Buddhist Ritual and Western Healthcare06:30 – Early Meditation Practice and Learning to Feel the Body08:53 – What Is Forest Yoga and Why It’s Unique13:03 – Eating Disorders, Self-Loathing, and Finding Joy in the Body18:52 – Trauma, Karma, and the Gifts Hidden in Discomfort24:28 – Adapting Ancient Practices in Modern Culture30:08 – Mantra and Tantra as Somatic Tools for Embodiment36:34 – How Tantra Can Ground or Dissociate Us41:59 – Final Reflections on Choosing Practices That Cultivate PresenceYou can read the show transcript hereFind out more about Jambo:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: YouTubeLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Somatic Intelligence and Trauma Recovery in Modern Times with Dr. Christy Gibson
Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Christy Gibson, physician, trauma educator, and author of Modern Trauma, on this rich and timely episode of In This Body. Together they explore how trauma lives not just in our minds but in our bodies, and how the pressures of modern life—from the climate crisis to constant digital exposure—shape our nervous systems in ways both visible and hidden. Dr. Gibson shares her vision of trauma as an adaptive response rather than a pathology, highlighting the importance of creativity, interoception, and somatic awareness as tools for personal and collective healing. The conversation weaves through the power of language, the necessity of flexible approaches to care, and the hope that arises when we reclaim agency in our healing journeys. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:01:48 – Redefining Trauma as an Internal Process03:29 – What is Modern Trauma? Collective Exposure and Overuse of the Term07:16 – The Body’s Memory: Amygdala, Triggers, and Stuck Responses09:34 – How Trauma Shapes Core Beliefs About Safety and Worth13:28 – Finding Safety Inside When the World is Unsafe17:40 – Creating an Island of Sanity: Somatic Practices and Grounding19:23 – Personalizing Your Pathway to Post-Traumatic Growth23:40 – Challenging Dogma: Flexibility Over Prescriptive Trauma Modalities27:45 – Creativity, Community, and Ancient Ways of Healing41:17 – Collective Trauma, Hope, and Changing SystemsYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Christy:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Toolkit Explore: Safer Space Training Follow: TikTok Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Pain, Pleasure, and Pelvic Power with Dr. Christine Pieton
Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Christine Pieton, physical therapist, Pilates instructor, and founder of Pieton Physical Therapy, on this illuminating episode of In This Body. Together they explore the often overlooked world of pelvic health—how our relationship to this part of the body shapes everything from intimacy and emotional wellbeing to physical freedom and self-trust. Christine shares her unexpected path into pelvic floor therapy, weaving in insights about shame, trauma, nervous system regulation, and the importance of consent in healing spaces.The conversation touches on cultural silence, medical trauma, and how honouring the intelligence of the pelvic floor can open up new dimensions of embodiment. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:01:56 – The Journey into Movement and Healing04:24 – Foundations of Integrative Bodywork and Movement Therapy09:15 – Understanding Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement11:32 – The Power of Witnessing in Movement Therapy13:52 – The Rise of Somatic Practices Post-COVID16:43 – Introducing Embodied Spirit and Conscious Earth24:04 – Embodiment of Spirit and Consciousness25:13 – Trauma and Transpersonal Experience27:36 – Honoring the Earth Body in Healing34:43 – Grief and Gratitude in HealingYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Christine:Find: WebsiteExplore: Youtube Channel Explore: Resources Follow on Instagram: pietonptLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Listening to the Body and Listening to the Earth with Linda Hartley
Join Ailey Jolie and Linda Hartley, somatic practitioner, author, and a teacher of The Discipline of Authentic Movement, on this contemplative episode of In This Body. Together, they explore embodiment as an evolving, relational journey—shaped by age, memory, and the quiet intelligence of the body itself. Linda shares her path from early dance to the development of a healing modality rooted in Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement, offering insight into how presence, witnessing, and somatic attunement can transform personal and collective experience. The conversation also touches on the Earth body, the arc of aging, and the grief and gratitude that accompany living in connection with all that is. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:00:00 – Introduction to Embodiment and the Podcast01:00 – Linda's Journey into Somatic Practices03:04 – The Development of Integrative Bodywork and Movement Therapy05:47 – Understanding Body-Mind Centering and Authentic Movement08:58 – The Importance of Witnessing in Somatic Practices12:02 – The Rise of Somatic Movement and Therapy15:00 – Exploring Linda's Book17:51 – The Connection Between Personal Healing and Earth Healing21:09 – Grief, Gratitude, and Healing26:51 – Final Thoughts on Being in the BodyYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Linda:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExperience: Discipline of Authentic Movement and PublicationsExplore: Earth Body ConversationsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Opening to the Body’s Intelligence and Inner Teacher with Andrea Juhan
Join Ailey Jolie and Andrea Juhan, psychotherapist, embodiment teacher, and co-founder of Open Floor International, on this expansive episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the healing potential of movement, not as performance, but as presence. Andrea shares her journey from Esalen bodyworker to somatic psychotherapist, weaving a life devoted to understanding how the body stores story, spirit, and self. The conversation traces the lineage of movement-based therapies, the relational field of embodiment, and the wild intelligence of the body as teacher. Andrea invites us to consider what it means to feel and deal—with fewer defences and more receptivity. This is a dialogue for anyone craving a deeper relationship with their body, their longing, and their own unfolding truth.In this episode:02:05 – Understanding Being in Your Body03:32 – The Journey of Movement and Psychology06:07 – Dance Movement Therapy: A Healing Approach09:51 – Movement as Healing vs. Performance11:50 – Collective Stories in the Body15:46 – Gabrielle Roth and the Five Rhythms27:32 – Exploring the Relational Body31:43 – The Essence of Open Floor Movement35:11 – Spirituality and Movement41:42 – Evolution of Embodiment PracticesYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Andrea:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExperience: ProgramsExplore: Open FloorLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Eating Disorders as Metaphor and the Feminine Path to Healing with Dr Anita Johnston
Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Anita Johnston, clinical psychologist, storyteller, and author of Eating in the Light of the Moon, on this episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the symbolic language of food and body image, revealing how struggles with eating are often expressions of deeper, unspoken hungers. Through myth, metaphor, and archetype, Dr. Johnston shares how reconnecting with the inner feminine voice—and listening to the body as a source of wisdom—can support healing and liberation. They discuss the cultural narratives that silence women’s intuition, the role of storytelling in making meaning, and why the journey home to ourselves begins not with control, but with curiosity. This episode invites listeners into a tender, soulful dialogue on embodiment, empowerment, and the truths our hunger is trying to tell us. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:03:11 The Evolution of Eating Disorder Treatment06:04 Understanding Disordered Eating as a Metaphor09:05 The Role of Storytelling in Recovery12:04 Archetypes and the Feminine Principle15:04 Connecting Emotions and Eating Behaviors18:12 Bringing Consciousness to Unconscious Patterns23:59 Understanding Emotional Eating29:22 The Language of Food and Emotions32:54 Reconnecting with Mother Nature36:49 Grounding and Body Awareness40:01 Cultural Pressures and Body Image41:24 The Journey to Self-AcceptanceYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Anita:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Experience: Eating in the Light of the Moon Explore: Free and Paid Resources Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Movement as Medicine: Exploring the Class with Jaycee Gossett
Join Ailey Jolie and Jaycee Gossett, movement artist and founding teacher of The Class, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation explores embodiment as a lifelong practice, the evolution from performance-based movement to somatic healing, and how the body can become a portal to truth, compassion, and vitality. Jaycee shares her personal journey through competitive dance, burnout, and reconnection—offering insight into how movement, breath, and intentional practice can shift both inner and outer landscapes. The episode also speaks to the power of community, agency, and somatic presence as tools for transformation. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:03:04 – Personal Journey to Embodiment06:03 – The Impact of Dance on Self-Connection09:06 – Exploring Different Movement Practices11:57 – Collective Healing Through Movement14:50 – Understanding the Class Structure and Philosophy20:58 – Navigating Pain and Discomfort in Practice24:03 – Liberation Through Movement30:41 – Clairvoyance and Body Awareness34:44 – Cultivating Self-Compassion Through Movement38:17 – The Power of CommunityYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Jaycee:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: The Class Experience: Retreats Use code INTHISBODY for 20% off a year of any subscription tier of The Class Digital Studio!Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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The Intelligence of Feminine Feeling with Jenna Ward
Join Ailey Jolie and Jenna Ward, a feminine embodiment coach and founder of the School of Embodied Arts, on this episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the transformative path of returning to the body as a site of power, pleasure, and profound self-awareness. Jenna shares her journey from clinical pharmacist to embodiment practitioner, offering insight into how feminine embodiment became both a personal healing practice and a professional calling. The conversation touches on the role of disembodiment in navigating systemic oppression, the politicisation of the body, and the ways we reclaim our power through sensation and presence. They also discuss the intersection of spirituality and embodiment, the importance of language, and how collective liberation begins with personal connection. This episode is an invitation to experience embodiment not just as a concept, but as a radical, lived devotion. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:00:00 Introduction to Embodiment and the Podcast01:00 Jenna's Journey to Feminine Embodiment04:19 Curiosity and the Call to Embodiment10:19 Defining Feminine Embodiment15:28 Exploring the Power of the Feminine23:02 The Intersection of Personal and Collective Power28:28 Embodiment and Collective Liberation35:43 Navigating Systemic Challenges in Coaching44:25 Spirituality and Embodiment50:16 The Importance of Language in Embodiment53:53 Tending to Our Bodies: A Daily PracticeYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Jenna:Find: Website Follow: InstagramExplore: The School of Embodied ArtsLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Astrology in Motion: How the Stars Live in Our Bodies with Heidi Rose Robbins
Join Ailey Jolie and Heidi Rose Robbins, a poet, astrologer, and author, on this episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the profound link between astrology, embodiment, and creative self-expression. Heidi shares how astrology serves as a tool for encouragement, self-awareness, and connection, highlighting its role in understanding both personal and collective shifts. The conversation touches on the physical manifestations of zodiac signs, the intersection of astrology and poetry, and how embodiment practices can help deepen our relationship with the cosmos. They also discuss the importance of intuitive wisdom, artistic expression, and finding community in times of transformation. This episode is an invitation to see astrology not just as a mental framework but as a lived, embodied experience. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:00:00 Introduction to Embodiment and Astrology02:23 Understanding Astrology: A Tool for Self-Discovery04:41 The Intersection of Astrology and Poetry07:01 Embodiment as a Portal to Astrology12:45 Zodiac Signs and Their Connection to the Body18:39 Using Astrology for Greater Embodiment22:07 Current Astrological Influences on Embodiment25:39 Seismic Shifts in Astrology31:00 The Healing Power of Poetry43:34 Intuition and AstrologyYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Heidi:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Books Experience: Retreat and Community Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Understanding the Barriers to Desire and Reconnecting with Pleasure with Dr. Kate Balestrieri
Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Kate Balestrieri, a clinical psychologist, certified sex therapist, and author, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation explores how systemic oppression—particularly patriarchy—shapes our relationships with gender, sexuality, and embodiment. Dr. Balestrieri unpacks the misconceptions around patriarchy, the impact of gender essentialism, and how masculinity can become a prison, disconnecting men from their emotional world. Ailey and Dr. Balestrieri discuss how trauma influences sexuality, why pleasure is a form of power, and the barriers that prevent individuals from viewing sex as a practice of play rather than a currency of worth. The episode also highlights the importance of reclaiming agency within cultural narratives that shape our desires, bodies, and relationships. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:00:00 Introduction to Embodiment and Connection01:00 Exploring Trauma, Sexuality, and Relational Healing06:18 The Impact of Patriarchy on Relationships11:04 The Suppression of Emotions in Men18:44 Gender-Based Violence and Masculinity23:06 Sexuality as a Playground for Healing26:27 Unlearning Shame and Embracing Play30:16 The Madonna-Whore Complex and Its Impact36:06 Insights from What Happened to My Sex Life?41:30 Sexuality as Currency and PowerYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Kate:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: Free ResourcesExperience: What Happened to my Sex life?Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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How We Carry and Transform Reproductive Experiences with Kristen Portney
Join Ailey Jolie and Kristen Portney, a therapist and reproductive health specialist, on this episode of In This Body. Together, they explore the unconscious narratives surrounding reproductive health—how they are shaped by family systems, culture, and internalized beliefs, and how they manifest in the body. Kristen shares insights on navigating the complex emotions tied to pregnancy, abortion, and loss, shedding light on the somatic imprints of these experiences. They discuss the role of creativity, ritual, and storytelling in reclaiming agency over reproductive narratives, as well as the link between self-forgiveness, pleasure, and embodiment. This conversation offers a nuanced and compassionate perspective on reshaping one’s relationship with the body after reproductive experiences, inviting listeners into a space of self-inquiry and possibility. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:01:30 – Exploring reproductive narratives and trauma03:54 – Motherhood myths and societal pressures09:14 – The Madonna-Whore complex in motherhood15:17 – The role of self-compassion in healing24:30 – Rewriting reproductive stories28:40 – The importance of self-forgiveness34:12 – Reclaiming pleasure in the body42:47 – Reproductive patterns and healing46:39 – Therapeutic change beyond the session53:43 – Creativity after reproductive lossYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Kristen:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: Post Abortion WorkbookLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Embodied Systems: How Structures Shape Our Bodies and Lives with Dr Roger Kuhn
Join Ailey Jolie and Dr Roger Kuhn, a Poarch Creek Two-Spirit Indigiqueer soma-cultural sex therapist, sexuality educator, writer, activist, and musician, on this episode of In This Body. Together they discuss the nuances behind embodiment, cultural identity, creativity, and liberation, exploring how systems—both personal and societal—shape our relationship with our bodies, the privilege of embodiment, and how capitalism influences disconnection. Dr. Kuhn challenges traditional somatic narratives, emphasising the need to recognise culture’s role in shaping bodily experience. They also discuss the link between creativity and embodiment, the power of community in fostering self-acceptance, and the importance of breath as a starting point for those new to this work. This conversation invites a deeper, more inclusive understanding of what it truly means to be present in the body. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:00:00 – Introduction to Embodiment and the Podcast01:00 – Meet Dr. Roger Kuhn06:29 – The Neglect of Culture in Somatics10:08 – Embodiment as a Privilege14:56 – Capitalism and Disconnection from the Body25:31 – The Essence of Embodiment and Liberation35:23 – The Connection Between Embodiment and Creativity40:40 – Community's Role in Embodiment and CreativityYou can read the show transcript here.To find out more about Roger:Find: Website Follow: Instagram Explore: Somacultural Liberation Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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How Love Lives in the Body with Dr. Sara Nasserzadeh
Join Ailey Jolie and Dr. Sara Nasserzadeh, an author, speaker and thinking partner with a PhD in Social Psychology and specialisation in Sexuality, Relationships, and Intercultural Fluency, on this episode of In This Body. They discuss the Emergent Love Model, which identifies six essential ingredients for lasting relationships: attraction, respect, trust, compassion, shared vision, and loving behaviors. The conversation explores the importance of understanding where efforts in relationships should be directed, the cultural influences on relational dynamics, and the distinction between sexual chemistry and sexual harmony. Dr. Sara Nasserzadeh emphasizes the role of the nervous system in relationships and the need for effective communication to foster healthy connections. The episode concludes with insights on creating a more equitable world through improved relationships. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode:00:00 Introduction to Embodiment and Love02:06 The Emergent Love Model Explained05:48 Understanding the Ingredients of Love11:52 Efforts in Relationships: Where to Focus18:06 Cultural Influences on Relationships23:54 Sexual Chemistry vs. Sexual Harmony30:00 The Role of the Nervous System in Relationships35:53 Navigating Relationship Dynamics and Communication41:57 Conclusion and Future EndeavorsYou can read the show transcript hereTo find out more about Dr Sara:Find: Website Follow: InstagramExperience: Resources Explore: Love By DesignLearn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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Integrating the Body in Meditation with Dawn Mauricio
Join Ailey Jolie and Dawn Mauricio, a Buddhist Meditation and Mindfulness Teacher, Author, and Mentor, on this episode of In This Body. The conversation centers on the connection between embodiment and Vipassana meditation, with a focus on trauma sensitivity in meditation settings and the importance of approaching practice with compassionate curiosity. Dawn and Ailey explore the relationship between meditation and somatic experiencing, highlighting their complementary nature and the significance of being present in the body. The episode also addresses common misconceptions about meditation and offers practical advice for integrating mindfulness into daily life. We hope you enjoy the episode.In this episode: 02:02 The Meaning of Being in Your Body03:54 Journey into Meditation and Insight Practices07:50 Understanding Vipassana and Its Variants12:05 Trauma Sensitivity in Meditation16:09 Navigating Challenges in Silent Retreats24:51 Exploring the Intersection of Meditation and Somatic Experiencing28:10 Understanding the Differences Between Meditation and Somatic Practices32:44 The Misunderstandings and Misuses of Meditation37:09 Corporate Mindfulness: Ethics and Intentions40:25 Spirituality in Meditation: A Personal Journey44:51 Bringing Life to Practice: Accessible Meditation TechniquesYou can read the show transcript here. To find out more about Dawn:Find: Website Follow: InstagramExplore: Membership Community Experience: Mindfulness Retreat Learn more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected] more about Ailey Jolie:Find: WebsiteFollow: InstagramExplore: SubstackExperience: Insight TimerSign up: InBodyMethodEmail: [email protected] follow along with the In This Body podcast:Follow: InstagramFind: WebsiteEmail: [email protected]
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
In This Body is a podcast that explores the hidden impact of the unconscious on our lives. Through conversations with global experts, we reveal the silent stories shaping our experiences, paving the way for genuine change and deeper authenticity. In This Body asks the important questions: How does connecting to your body change your life? How will connecting to your body allow you to love better and live more authentically? And how does connecting to your body change the trajectory of our shared world?
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Ailey Jolie
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