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Sunday Afternoon Smokes
by Chris Strother
Sunday Afternoon Smokes is a long-form podcast hosted by Chris Strother, featuring unhurried conversations with entrepreneurs, founders, business owners, and leaders across the Upstate of South Carolina.Each episode explores business, leadership, faith, risk, and the realities of building something meaningful. Recorded at the table, not the podium. Cigars are part of the setting — never the requirement.Settle in. Enjoy the conversation.
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Life After Stroke & Brain Injury | Episode 83 with Alex Katzman & Caitlin Beakes
What does recovery really look like after a stroke or traumatic brain injury? Alex Katzman and Caitlin Beakes join Sunday Afternoon Smokes for a wide-ranging conversation about stroke and brain injury rehabilitation, the hidden challenges patients face, and the impact these life-changing events have on entire families. Alex, an occupational therapist, and Caitlin, a speech-language pathologist, work with patients navigating everything from physical limitations and aphasia to memory loss, executive function, emotional regulation, and the difficult process of rebuilding everyday life. They explain why no two brain injuries are alike and why successful rehabilitation requires treating the whole person—not simply the most visible deficit. The conversation also gets deeply personal as Chris shares his experience walking alongside his wife after her stroke. Together, they discuss grief, identity, marriage after brain injury, the fear of becoming a burden, caregiver burnout, and the importance of giving both survivors and caregivers space to acknowledge when life is simply hard. Alex and Caitlin also share the story behind the Caretaker Support Group they helped create alongside Chris and why community matters for the people quietly carrying the weight of caring for someone they love. Along the way, they break down occupational therapy, speech therapy, aphasia, apraxia, cognition, neuroplasticity, and what meaningful progress can actually look like months—or years—after a brain injury. And before the conversation ends, Caitlin somehow takes us from speech therapy to riding a bicycle across the United States twice. Roger C. Peace: https://www.instagram.com/ph_rogercpeace/ Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://www.sundayafternoonsmokes.com https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Four Generations of Automotive Craftsmanship | Episode 82 with Chris Dover
Chris Dover is the third generation to lead Dover Cylinder Head Service, a fourth-generation family business serving the automotive industry in Upstate South Carolina. In Episode 82 of *Sunday Afternoon Smokes*, Chris joins me for a wide-ranging conversation about growing up in the Upstate, watching Greenville and Pickens County change, learning the family business from his father, and eventually taking the reins himself. We get into cylinder heads and engine rebuilding, how the automotive industry has changed, the value of old-school craftsmanship, and why Chris believes doing right by the customer matters more than squeezing every dollar out of a job. We also talk cigars, Chris's passion for woodturning, the wooden whiskey glasses he may be making for the SAS lounge, and the work his church supports in Kenya, Tanzania, and Romania—including the experiences in Romania that changed his perspective on life back home in America. An unhurried conversation about family, craftsmanship, faith, business, and leaving something worth passing down. Dover Cylinder Head: www.doverheads.com Sunday Afternoon Smokes: www.sundayafternoonsmokes.com https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Dog Training, Hunting Dogs & Building Covey Kennels | Episode 81 with Ethan VanDonkelaar
Ethan VanDonkelaar is the owner and head trainer at Covey Kennels in Upstate South Carolina, where he works with everything from family dogs and basic obedience to high-performing hunting and retrieving dogs. In Episode 81 of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Ethan joins Chris in the lounge to talk about the path that took him from corporate sales to guiding fly-fishing and upland bird hunts — and eventually into building Covey Kennels. They get into what actually makes dog training work, why consistency from the owner matters just as much as the trainer, developing hunting dogs that can perform in the field and still live well at home, choosing the right breed for your lifestyle, gunfire conditioning, boarding philosophy, and just how much dogs are actually capable of learning. The conversation also goes well beyond dogs, touching on entrepreneurship, family, fatherhood, faith, jiu-jitsu, and the value of narrowing your focus to the things you’re genuinely built to do. An unhurried conversation about dogs, discipline, purpose, business, and building a life around the things that matter. Covey Kennels: https://www.coveykennels.com/ https://www.instagram.com/coveykennels/ Sunday Afternoon Smokes: sundayafternoonsmokes.com www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Therapeutic Massage, Pain Relief & Understanding Your Body | Episode 80 with Megan Trimmer
Megan Trimmer is the owner of Deep Kneads Massage Therapy in Greenville, South Carolina, where her approach to massage goes far beyond simply helping clients relax. In Episode 80 of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Megan joins Chris to talk about her unlikely path from elementary education and the service industry to becoming a massage therapist and eventually building her own practice. Along the way, they explore the difference between relaxation and therapeutic massage, why the location of pain isn't always the source of the problem, and how our everyday habits and movement patterns can contribute to chronic discomfort. Megan explains why she views pain as information, how massage can work alongside chiropractic care, physical therapy, and strength training, and why understanding your own body is an important part of long-term health. They also get into hydration, hot stones, massage guns, what to expect during your first appointment, the realities of building a small business, Megan's new venture into life insurance, and—as tends to happen in the lounge—a lengthy detour into bartending and cocktails. It's an unhurried conversation about career changes, entrepreneurship, taking care of your body, and finding work you genuinely enjoy. Deep Kneads Massage: www.deepkneadsmassagetherapy.net Sunday Afternoon Smokes: www.sundayafternoonsmokes.com https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Finding Peace Beyond Success, Sobriety & Heartbreak | Episode 79 with Jessica Eshan
Jessica Eshan joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes for a wide-ranging conversation about identity, sobriety, entrepreneurship, faith, forgiveness, and what it really means to build a meaningful life. Jessica shares her journey from the cigar blogging community into executive leadership in human resources, real estate, and AI-driven manufacturing technology before opening up about alcoholism, recovery, childhood trauma, divorce, reconciliation with her family, and finding lasting peace through sobriety and personal growth. Along the way, Chris and Jessica discuss the emotional impact of divorce on parents and children, repairing broken relationships, perfectionism, music, gratitude, entrepreneurship, real estate, AI, and the search for purpose beyond career success. What begins as a conversation about cigars and business gradually becomes an honest discussion about healing, forgiveness, faith, and discovering that our worth isn't found in achievement, but in who we become. If you've ever wrestled with identity, loss, addiction, rebuilding relationships, or finding hope after life's hardest seasons, this conversation is for you. Jess Eshan: https://www.instagram.com/jessicaeshan_realtor/ www.eshanteam.com Sunday Afternoon Smokes: www.sundayafternoonsmokes.com https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Finding Your Identity Beyond Your Career | Episode 78 with Joel Conwell
What happens when your career, identity, and future suddenly change? Joel Conwell joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes for a thoughtful conversation about faith, identity, purpose, entrepreneurship, and what it means to build a meaningful life beyond your job title. Chris and Joel explore Joel's journey from pastoral ministry into the technology world, the challenges of reinventing yourself after unexpected life changes, and why genuine human connection matters more than status or success. Along the way, they discuss marriage, fatherhood, podcasting, creativity, suicide prevention, writing books, corporate culture, and the pursuit of meaningful work. The conversation also dives into the tension between achievement and contentment, how personal identity can become tied to career, and why serving others often leads to a richer and more fulfilling life. This is a conversation about purpose, resilience, relationships, entrepreneurship, faith, and living with intention. Joel Conwell: https://jconwell.org/ Stay Project: https://stay-project.life/ Stay App: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/stay/id6780283058 Stretched Thin Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/25zwAosEgUXFYVmUai20yV?si=73f51c7dd4004a17 Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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From GE to Bobby's Barbecue | Episode 77 with Tay Nelson
Tay Nelson, owner of Bobby's Barbecue in Fountain Inn, joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes for a conversation about barbecue, entrepreneurship, faith, and the long road to building something that lasts. What begins with cigars and the process of creating Tay's own premium cigar brand, Octavius Reserve, quickly expands into the story of how a career at GE unexpectedly led to barbecue, catering, seasoning blends, and eventually one of the Upstate's most respected barbecue restaurants. Chris and Tay discuss learning through failure, the value of mentors, why excellence matters more than shortcuts, and how consistency has shaped Bobby's Barbecue from its earliest days. Tay shares stories of working alongside some of the country's most respected pitmasters, the lessons he learned from Aaron Franklin, Rodney Scott, and others, and why mastering the craft requires patience, humility, and relentless curiosity. The conversation also explores leadership, raising a family, building a business with integrity, the role of faith during difficult seasons, and the importance of slowing down to enjoy life—whether around a barbecue pit or over a good cigar. This is a conversation about craftsmanship, perseverance, entrepreneurship, faith, barbecue, cigars, and building a life with purpose. Bobby's BBQ: https://www.eatbobbys.com/ https://www.instagram.com/eatbobbys/ Tay Nelson: https://www.instagram.com/tay_nelson__/ Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Fatherhood, Family Court, and the Fight for Equal Parenting | Episode 76 with Houston Miller
Houston Miller joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes for one of the most personal and emotionally charged conversations in the show's history. What begins as a discussion about Houston's background in law enforcement, construction, and public service becomes a deeper conversation about fatherhood, family court, forgiveness, faith, and the challenges many parents face after separation and divorce. Chris and Houston discuss the importance of fathers in their children's lives, the emotional toll of custody disputes, the realities of family court in South Carolina, and why both believe children deserve meaningful relationships with both parents whenever it is safe and appropriate to do so. Along the way, the conversation explores faith, personal responsibility, forgiveness, law enforcement, the role of men in their families and communities, and the lasting impact parents have on their children. During the conversation, Houston also discusses Equal Roots, a developing support community focused on encouraging and equipping fathers navigating separation, custody challenges, and family court proceedings. For more information, contact Houston Miller via DM on Instagram. This episode is not a debate. It is a conversation between two fathers sharing personal experiences, discussing difficult realities, and raising awareness about an issue they believe deserves greater attention. To learn more about South Carolina's proposed Equal Parenting Act, visit: www.scstatehouse.gov/sess126_2025-2026/bills/4622.htm Houston Miller: https://www.instagram.com/houston.miller97/ https://www.instagram.com/thehunting.experience/ Follow the Show: www.sundayafternoonsmokes.com https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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From South Africa to South Carolina: Faith, Immigration & Building a New Life | Episode 75 with Armand Groesbeek
Armand Groesbeek, owner of House of Holland Tattoo Emporium, joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes for one of the most personal and faith-centered conversations in the show's history. What begins as a discussion about identity quickly becomes a deep conversation about Christianity, obedience, prayer, testimony, and what it means to build your life on something greater than your profession or accomplishments. Chris and Armand discuss faith in Jesus Christ, the difference between who we are and what we do, lessons learned through hardship, and the moments that shaped their understanding of God's leading and purpose. Along the way, Armand shares powerful stories from his life, including his family's journey of faith, his path into tattooing, and experiences that challenged and strengthened his beliefs. The conversation later expands into entrepreneurship, immigration, fatherhood, marriage, South African culture, and Armand's journey from South Africa to South Carolina. Together they explore the opportunities, challenges, and perspective that come from building a life in a new country while holding tightly to the values that matter most. This is a conversation about faith, identity, perseverance, family, purpose, and the search for home. Armand Groesbeek: https://www.instagram.com/armandgroesbeektattooartist/ House of Holland: https://houseofhollandtattoo.com/ https://www.instagram.com/house_of_holland_tattoos/ Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/ Product Placement: The custom crystal ashtray featured in this episode was provided by Nancy Davis Studio.
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From Musician to Entrepreneur | Episode 74 with Jarrett Forrester
Jarrett Forrester joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes to discuss entrepreneurship, customer service, branding, and the unexpected path that led him from full-time musician to business owner. Known throughout the Southeast as a touring Americana and country artist, Jarrett shares how Cowboy Custom Printing was born almost by accident after a frustrating business experience revealed an opportunity to do things differently. What started as a side venture quickly grew into a thriving apparel and promotional products company built on relationships, creativity, and helping customers succeed. Chris and Jarrett explore what makes great merchandise actually sell, why customer trust matters more than a single transaction, the challenges of building a business from scratch, and how authenticity creates long-term opportunities. Along the way, they discuss branding, entrepreneurship, fatherhood, music, cigars, and the value of creating products people are genuinely excited to wear. This conversation offers an inside look at the mindset of a creator who has built careers in both music and business by focusing on relationships first and sales second. Topics include entrepreneurship, branding, custom apparel, merchandise design, small business ownership, customer service, touring musicians, fatherhood, creativity, marketing, and building a business through genuine connections. Cowboy Custom Printing: https://www.instagram.com/cowboycustomprintinggvl/ Jarrett Forrester Music: https://www.instagram.com/jarretforrestermusic/ https://www.youtube.com/@jarretforrestermusic Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Horses, Healing & Human Connection | Episode 73 with Jessica Fry
What does it actually mean to train a horse? Jessica Fry, founder of Wild Hearts Equine Therapy, joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes for a conversation about horses, healing, trust, and the surprising connection between human and animal nervous systems. What begins as a discussion about equine therapy quickly expands into a deeper conversation about emotional regulation, anxiety, confidence, trauma, and the role connection plays in both human and animal relationships. Jessica explains how horses help people slow down, feel safe, and build trust, while sharing the philosophy behind her unique approach to horsemanship. Along the way, Chris and Jessica discuss growing up as a Navy brat, living overseas, being a self-described wild child, young motherhood, entrepreneurship, coffee, travel, and the lessons horses have taught her about softness, communication, and leadership. Whether you're fascinated by horses or simply interested in how people heal and grow, this episode offers an honest look at the power of presence, trust, and learning to listen. Topics include equine therapy, horse training, emotional regulation, anxiety, trauma recovery, entrepreneurship, leadership, confidence, nervous system health, motherhood, and personal growth. Wild Hearts Equine Therapy: https://www.wildheartsequinetherapy.org/ https://www.instagram.com/wildheartsequinetherapy/ Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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From Hawaii to Upstate Media: Community, Identity & Entrepreneurship | Episode 72 with Eddie King
Eddie King, Editor-in-Chief of Upstate Community Press, joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes to discuss community, entrepreneurship, storytelling, and the winding path that shaped his life. Raised in Belton, South Carolina, Eddie shares how an unexpected end to his plans of joining the Marine Corps sent him searching for a new direction, eventually leading him to Hawaii. What began as an attempt to escape became a journey of personal growth, identity, and discovering what truly mattered. Chris and Eddie discuss local business, building community, podcasting, media, leadership, cigars, bourbon, and the importance of helping people tell their stories. They also explore the challenges of entrepreneurship, the power of meaningful conversations, finding purpose after failure, and why authentic human connection matters more than ever. Whether you're a business owner, creator, entrepreneur, or simply someone navigating life's unexpected turns, this conversation offers insight into building something meaningful while staying true to who you are. Topics include: • Upstate Community Press • Entrepreneurship and local business • Moving to Hawaii and finding identity • Community building and networking • Podcasting and content creation • Leadership and personal growth • Cigar culture and conversation • Purpose, failure, and reinvention Eddie King Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kingeditor/ Upstate Press: https://upstate.press https://www.instagram.com/upstatepress Follow the Show: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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From Bottle Lights to Custom Rings: The Art of Experimenting | Episode 71 with Nancy Davis
Nancy Davis joins Sunday Afternoon Smokes to share her unexpected journey from medical transcriptionist to jewelry artist and entrepreneur. What started with handmade bottle lights and alcohol ink artwork eventually evolved into Nancy Davis Studio, where she now creates custom rings, earrings, bracelets, ashtrays, and other wearable art. Along the way, she learned the realities of craft markets, the challenge of valuing creative work, and how following curiosity can lead to opportunities you never saw coming. Chris and Nancy discuss creativity, artistic identity, entrepreneurship, social media, custom jewelry, the business of handmade products, and why many artists struggle with the question of what their work is truly worth. They also explore the transition from traditional employment to self-employment, finding purpose after a career change, and the importance of creating something unique in a crowded marketplace. Plus, Nancy surprises the lounge with custom Sunday Afternoon Smokes crystal ashtrays and a gift unlike anything the show has received before. In this episode: * How Nancy discovered her artistic side later in life * Building a business through experimentation and curiosity * The realities of craft markets and vendor events * Creating custom rings and wearable art * Why artists often undervalue their work * Transitioning from a longtime career into entrepreneurship * The importance of authenticity and originality * Custom ashtrays, jewelry design, and functional artwork Learn more about Nancy and her work at NancyDavisStudio.com and follow @NancyDavisStudio on social media. Follow the show @sundayafternoonsmokes on Instagram sundayafternoonsmokes.com Lounge Partner: The crystal ashtrays featured in the Sunday Afternoon Smokes Lounge are provided by Nancy Davis Studio. Learn more at NancyDavisStudio.com.
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Luxury Weddings, Entrepreneurship & Hospitality | Episode 70 with Dallas Vickers
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Dallas Vickers, owner of the Greenville franchise of Stunning & Brilliant Events, for a conversation about wedding planning, entrepreneurship, hospitality, and what luxury really means. Dallas shares her journey from culinary school and private chef work to building a career in event planning, discussing the realities of weddings, corporate events, client expectations, and creating memorable experiences. The conversation explores luxury versus expense, guest experience, vendor relationships, and why service often matters more than aesthetics. Along the way, Chris and Dallas discuss competition, business ownership, relationships, hospitality, and the challenges of building something meaningful in a crowded marketplace. Whether you're planning a wedding, running a business, or simply interested in the art of serving people well, this is a thoughtful conversation about entrepreneurship, hospitality, and creating experiences that last. Guest: Dallas Vickers Stunning & Brilliant Events – Greenville https://www.stunningandbrilliantevents.com/ https://www.instagram.com/dallasnorvickers/ https://www.instagram.com/stunningandbrilliantevents/ Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Building Scout’s Doughnuts: Entrepreneurship, Family & Faith | Episode 69 with Ryland Rainsford
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Ryland Rainsford, co-founder of Scout's Doughnuts, for a thoughtful conversation about entrepreneurship, faith, family, endurance, and building a business with intentionality. Before opening one of Greenville’s most beloved doughnut shops, Ryland worked as a mechanical engineer at Michelin while his wife JP taught elementary school. Together, they spent years wrestling with deeper questions about purpose, work, community, and the kind of people they wanted to become before eventually launching Scout’s Doughnuts from their own kitchen countertop in 2022. Chris and Ryland discuss: * Leaving the security of corporate life * Starting a business from scratch * The story behind Scout’s Doughnuts * Croissant-style doughnuts and the creative process * Family, fatherhood, and intentional living * Burnout, stress, and protecting your health * Running, discipline, and mental clarity * Building community through food and hospitality * Faith, purpose, and playing the long game * Why meaningful work matters more than titles The conversation also dives into the realities of entrepreneurship, the pressure of balancing work and family, and how small businesses can positively shape a community far beyond the products they sell. If you enjoy conversations about business, creativity, faith, family, and building something meaningful, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Scout's Doughnuts: https://www.scoutsdoughnuts.com/ https://www.instagram.com/scoutsdoughnuts/ Follow the show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/ https://www.sundayafternoonsmokes.com/
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Building Saturday’s Best Sports: College Sports, Entrepreneurship & Taking a Chance on Yourself | Episode 68 with Will Bestermann
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Will Bestermann — recent Clemson graduate, future physical therapist, and creator of Saturday's Best Sports — for a conversation about ambition, entrepreneurship, sports media, discipline, and figuring life out in your twenties. At just 22 years old, Will is balancing college, physical therapy school acceptance at UConn, content creation, podcasting, social media, and building his own sports media brand focused on college football and basketball. Chris and Will discuss: * Starting a sports media brand from scratch * Consistency and social media growth * Entrepreneurship at a young age * College football and college basketball culture * Learning through repetition and experience * Taking chances on yourself * The pressure of doing too much * Why authenticity matters online * Balancing ambition with quality * Building something meaningful while still young The conversation also dives into Will’s upbringing in a military family, living overseas in Italy and the UK, sports culture abroad, Clemson life, and preparing for the next chapter at UConn’s physical therapy doctorate program. More than just a sports conversation, this episode explores ambition, momentum, self-awareness, and the tension between chasing opportunities and learning when to narrow your focus. Saturday's Best Sports: https://www.instagram.com/saturdaysbestsports/ Saturday's Best Substack: https://saturdaysbest.substack.com/ Saturday's Best Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@saturdaysbestsports Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://sundayafternoonsmokes.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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From Foster Care to Real Estate Law, Fatherhood & Faith | Episode 67 with Trey Ingram
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with local attorney Trey Ingram of Holliday Ingram Real Estate Law for a wide-ranging conversation about family, faith, entrepreneurship, adoption, and building a meaningful life in a rapidly changing world. Trey shares the story behind Holliday Ingram Real Estate Law, why he walked away from the traditional big-firm path, and how he and his law partner built a people-first business culture focused on relationships over billable hours. The conversation also dives deep into fatherhood, raising nine children, foster care, adoption, and the lessons Trey and his wife learned through their journey serving vulnerable children both locally and abroad. Chris and Trey also explore: The modern impact of AI and technology Cigars, coffee, and slowing down for conversation Homeschooling and raising kids outdoors Farming, cows, and life outside the city Why children are a blessing, not a burden The emotional reality of parenting and watching kids grow up Entrepreneurship, law, and creating a healthier work-life balance Faith, purpose, and building a legacy that lasts beyond money or career success Grab a cigar, pour a cup of coffee, and settle in for one of the most thoughtful and heartfelt conversations yet inside the Sunday Afternoon Smokes Lounge. 🎙️ Sunday Afternoon Smokes is available on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere podcasts are streamed. Holliday Ingram Real Estate Law: https://hollidayingram.com/ Follow Trey: https://www.instagram.com/treyingram/ Blackwater Roasters: https://www.blackwaterroasters.com/ Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Physical Therapy, Chronic Pain, Faith & Healing | Episode 66 with Collin Beckermeyer, DPT & Michelle Edwards, PTA
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with physical therapist Collin Beckermeyer, DPT, and physical therapist assistant Michelle Edwards, for a thoughtful conversation about chronic pain, recovery, physical therapy, faith, mindset, and what it truly means to help people heal. Michelle brings more than 34 years of experience as a traveling PTA, while Collin represents a younger generation of clinicians focused on movement, patient connection, and long-term wellness. Together, they discuss why physical therapy is about far more than exercises and injuries — it’s about trust, encouragement, discipline, and helping people regain quality of life. The conversation dives into: * Chronic pain and rehabilitation * Injury recovery and “prehab” * The emotional and mental side of healing * Strength training and loading the body correctly * Why patient mindset matters * Sports injuries and mobility * Faith, perseverance, and suffering * The connection between body, mind, and spirit * The importance of compassion in healthcare * Why communication and human connection are often a lost art From funny stories and sports rivalries to deep conversations about healing and purpose, this episode is packed with insight, humor, and real human connection inside the Sunday Afternoon Smokes Lounge. 🎙️ Sunday Afternoon Smokes is available on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and everywhere podcasts are streamed.
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From Civil Engineering to Sauna House: Burnout, Entrepreneurship, and Building a Wellness Business in Greenville | Episode 65 with Woody Liles
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Woody Liles, co-founder of Sauna House Greenville, to talk about his transition from civil engineering and large-scale infrastructure projects to launching a modern European-style bathhouse in Upstate South Carolina. Woody shares how long hours, job stress, and burnout pushed him to rethink his career path—and how a single experience at Sauna House in Asheville led to the idea of bringing the concept to Greenville. With no background in hospitality, Woody and his wife took on the challenge of starting a business from scratch, navigating funding obstacles, construction hurdles, and the realities of entrepreneurship. This conversation covers: * Leaving a stable engineering career to start a business * Burnout, work-life balance, and redefining success * Building Sauna House Greenville from concept to opening * The benefits of sauna, cold plunge, and recovery practices * Creating a tech-free, community-driven wellness environment * Lessons learned in entrepreneurship and resilience If you’re interested in entrepreneurship, wellness, recovery, or building something meaningful from the ground up, this episode offers a real look at what it takes. SAUNA HOUSE: https://www.saunahouse.com https://www.instagram.com/saunahousegreenville FOLLOW THE SHOW: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes
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From Loss to Perspective: Nico DiNunzio on Family, Stroke Recovery & Finding Direction | Episode 64
In Episode 64 of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Nico DiNunzio shares a powerful story shaped by family, loss, and resilience. From growing up through divorce to losing his father—and later surviving a life-altering stroke—Nico reflects on the moments that forced him to confront what really matters. We talk about therapy, personal growth, career direction, and what it means to be present as a husband and father. This is a conversation about perspective, second chances, and building something stronger on the other side of hardship. FOLLOW NICO: https://www.instagram.com/dinunzio/ TTI: https://www.ttigroup.com/ RYOBI: https://www.ryobitools.com/ https://www.instagram.com/ryobitoolsusa/ ROGER C. PEACE YOUNG STROKE: https://prismahealth.org/locations/hospitals/roger-c-peace-rehabilitation-hospital/outpatient-rehabilitation-services/outpatient-brain-injury-and-young-stroke-program https://www.instagram.com/ph_rogercpeace/ RED BREAST: https://www.instagram.com/redbreastus/ FOLLOW THE SHOW: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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From Coolers to Community: The Making of Broadwater Shrimp and Building Something That Lasts | Episode 63 with Jason Janson
In Episode 63 of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Jason Jansen, owner of Broadwater Shrimp Supply & Seafood Market — and the guest of honor for the very first video episode recorded inside the new Sunday Afternoon Smokes Lounge. Jason's story starts with coolers, a truck, and a one-way move from Charleston to Greenville with no customers, no connections, and no plan B. What followed was five years of grinding, pivoting, and building one of the most recognized small businesses in the Upstate from the ground up. In this conversation, Jason breaks down what it actually takes to start something from nothing — overcoming fear, knowing when to say yes and when to say no, why slowing down is sometimes the fastest way to grow, and how the pursuit of legacy shifts when family enters the picture. This episode marks a new chapter for Sunday Afternoon Smokes — same cigars, same conversation, now on video. Sunday Afternoon Smokes. Upstate SC. Every Sunday. BROADWATER SHRIMP: https://www.broadwatershrimp.com https://www.instagram.com/broadwatershrimp FOLLOW THE SHOW: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes EPISODE CIGAR: Artista Harvest Sumatra www.artistacigars.com/brands/artista-harvest
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From Art History to AI: Digital Marketing Pioneer on Reinvention, Razorfish, and the Future of Fintech | Episode 62 with Francie Staub
Francie Staub has been at the bleeding edge of every major marketing shift for thirty years — and she saw each one coming before most people believed it was real. From an art gallery in Atlanta to banner ads nobody wanted to touch, from Razorfish at its peak to managing a $175 million media budget at TD Ameritrade and US Card at Capital One, Francie built her career by jumping toward the scary thing every time it appeared. Now she's in Greenville, SC doing it again — as a fractional CMO helping AI fintech startup WNSTN bring financial-grade artificial intelligence to brokerages, banks, and wealth management platforms worldwide. In this conversation, Chris and Francie cover the full arc — how digital marketing went from the Wild West to a science, what great advertising actually does versus what most brands think it does, why customer retention beats acquisition every time, and why the AI moment feels exactly like the early internet did in 1999. They also spend a considerable amount of time planning a food crawl through New York City, which is exactly what this show is. Francie Staub Spiced nuts: francieskitchen.com Staub Kent Consulting: staubkentconsulting.com Instagram: instagram.com/fjstaub LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/francie-staub WNSTN wnstn.ai WNSTN in action: benzinga.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/wnstn-ai X: x.com/WNSTNai Follow the Show instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes Sunday Afternoon Smokes. Upstate SC. Every Sunday.
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From Trauma to Triumph: Juliette Pierce on Faith, Identity & Becoming Mrs. Greenville America | Episode 61 with Juliette Pierce
In this powerful episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Juliette Pierce—Mrs. Greenville America, athlete, gym owner, and woman of deep faith—for a raw and unhurried conversation about resilience, identity, and transformation. Juliette shares her journey from a difficult childhood marked by instability, addiction, and the absence of a strong father figure to finding purpose through faith, fitness, and personal growth. From living in a shed during a season of uncertainty to breaking state powerlifting records and stepping onto the pageant stage, her story is one of redemption, discipline, and courage. This conversation explores what it means to overcome insecurity, rebuild your identity, and step boldly into who you were created to be. Chris and Juliette also dive into the importance of family, the impact of faith, and how hardship can shape strength when you refuse to stay stuck. Whether you're navigating your own challenges or searching for purpose, this episode will leave you encouraged and grounded. Follow Juliette: https://www.instagram.com/juliettepierce_/ Area 51 Gym: https://www.instagram.com/a51gym/ Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/ The Cigar Box: https://www.mobilecigarbox.com/
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Building Red Clay, Leading I Define, and Redefining Fatherhood Through Adversity| Episode 60 with Geoff Rhyne
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down on the patio with Geoff Rhyne — chef, entrepreneur, father, and founder of Red Clay Provisions and iDefine Foundation. What starts as a conversation about butchery, southern food culture, and building better condiments slowly unfolds into something much deeper. Geoff shares stories from his early years growing up around chaos and violence, the male influences that shaped him, and the long road toward becoming the kind of father he never had. He talks about walking away from a rising culinary career in order to be present for his son — and how the birth of his daughter, followed by a rare genetic diagnosis, completely reframed his life. This is a conversation about adversity — not as a slogan, but as lived experience. It’s about building fire pits and building character. It’s about faith, reconciliation, fatherhood, and the quiet strength required to serve the people closest to you. No scripts. No performance. Just two men talking honestly about pain, purpose, and what it means to keep moving forward. Light one up and settle in. Follow Geoff Rhyne: https://www.instagram.com/geoffrhyne/ iDefine: https://www.idefine.org/ https://www.instagram.com/idefineorg/ Red Clay Hot Sauce: https://redclayhotsauce.com/ https://www.instagram.com/redclayhotsauce/ Southern Roots BBQ: https://www.southernrootsreunion.com/ https://www.instagram.com/southernrootsreunion/ Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Strongman Mindset: Discipline, Failure, and the Pursuit of Pro Status | Episode 59 with Jake Henderson
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with returning guest Jake Henderson, owner of the Carolina Barbell Club and a competitive strongman athlete training out of Britt’s Brothers Gym in Greenville, South Carolina. Jake breaks down the differences between strongman, powerlifting, and bodybuilding, what it really takes to train for elite strength sports, and why discipline matters far more than motivation when chasing a long-term goal. The conversation moves beyond the gym into topics like masculinity, mindset, failure, and personal accountability. Jake also shares the story of a competition that didn’t go the way he hoped—and how that experience reshaped his drive to pursue professional strongman status. Along the way, Chris and Jake talk about cigar culture, building a community in the gym, and why strength training can change a person’s confidence, independence, and outlook on life. Whether you're interested in fitness, strongman training, personal development, or building discipline, this conversation offers a thoughtful look at what it means to pursue strength both physically and mentally. Topics discussed: Strongman vs Powerlifting vs Bodybuilding Training for strength sports Discipline vs motivation Failure and personal growth Masculinity and mindset Building confidence through the gym Setting and achieving long-term goals Guest: Jake Henderson Owner – Carolina Barbell Club Competitive Strongman Athlete Follow Jake: https://www.instagram.com/hendo_strength_systems/ https://www.instagram.com/carolinabarbellclub/ Sing up for Upstate Mayhem: https://ironpodium.com/browse/ev/carolina-barbell-presents-upstate-mayhem Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Faith, Forgiveness, and Skincare — Kimberly Bertrand of SmartFace | Episode 58
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with esthetician and entrepreneur Kimberly Bertrand, founder of SmartFace and SF Ceuticals. Kimberly shares her unexpected journey—from small-town Texas to San Diego and eventually Greenville—and how building a successful skincare business forced her to confront burnout, leadership failures, and ultimately her own need for transformation. What begins as a conversation about skincare and confidence turns into a much deeper story about faith, forgiveness, and rebuilding a life and business with a new foundation. Chris and Kimberly talk about: What estheticians actually do (and why it’s more about people than skin) The emotional and confidence side of skincare Entrepreneurship lessons learned the hard way Why Kimberly moved from San Diego to Greenville The moment that led her to faith in Christ How her company and Project 5:14 are now focused on serving others It’s a thoughtful conversation about beauty, brokenness, healing, and the surprising places where purpose can grow. Connect with Kimberly: https://skincarethatserves.com/ https://www.instagram.com/smartface_gvl/ https://www.instagram.com/sfceuticals/ Follow the show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/ If you enjoy these conversations, the best way to support the show is simply to follow the podcast and share it with someone else who might enjoy it.
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Storytelling, Small Business & Community Marketing with Duncan Morrow & Jerry Plumb of Upstate Community Press | Episode 57
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Duncan Morrow and Jerry Plumb of Upstate Community Press for a wide-ranging conversation about storytelling, small business, and the role creativity plays in building community. What begins with cigars and conversation quickly moves into deeper territory. Duncan and Jerry share how Upstate Community Press grew from a passion for visual storytelling into a platform that helps small businesses and entrepreneurs tell their stories in meaningful ways. The conversation explores the power of narrative in marketing, why authenticity matters more than polish, and how genuine relationships often grow businesses more effectively than traditional advertising. Along the way, the group reflects on the philosophy behind entrepreneurship, the parallels between music and business, and the importance of collaboration in creative work. They discuss the challenges of starting something from scratch, the lessons learned from working with local brands, and why helping other people succeed often leads to your own success. Like many Sunday afternoons, the conversation wanders—touching on cigars, storytelling, faith, marketing, and the surprising ways community forms when people choose to invest in one another. If you enjoy thoughtful conversations about creativity, entrepreneurship, and the people shaping the Upstate, this is one you won’t want to miss. Upstate Community Press: https://upstate.press/ https://www.instagram.com/upstatepress/ Follow Duncan Morrow: https://www.instagram.com/duncan.morrow/ Follow Jerry Plumb: https://www.instagram.com/attritionist/ Follow the show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Faith, Entrepreneurship, and Building Media Lifeline Pro | Episode 56 with Cody Stinson
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with neighbor and entrepreneur Cody Stinson — founder of Media Lifeline Pro — for a wide-ranging conversation about faith, business, technology, and resilience. Born three months premature and given almost no chance of survival, Cody shares the story of his early life, the vision complications that shaped his childhood, and the unexpected loss of sight in one eye as an adult. What follows is an honest discussion about identity, disappointment, and learning to trust God when plans shift. From climbing radio towers overseas installing Christian radio stations… to building a web and communications company that now serves 400+ ministries and small businesses… Cody talks about redefining “calling” and seeing business not as separate from ministry — but as a platform for it. They dive into: Missions work and the realities of deputation The technical side of launching radio stations overseas Why Christian business owners may be the church’s most underutilized resource Using systems, automation, and AI to serve people well Finding clarity of purpose after illness and hardship This is a conversation about simplifying your focus, stewarding your talents, and using whatever tools you’ve been given to make an impact. If you’ve ever wrestled with the tension between faith and work — this one’s for you. Guest: Cody Stinson https://medialifeline.net/ https://www.instagram.com/ Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Rise Bakery, Artisan Bread, and Building a Sustainable Business | Episode 55 with Julian Loue
On this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, I sit down with Julian Loue, founder of Rise Bakery, for a conversation about craft, restraint, and building something that lasts. Julian’s path to owning a bakery wasn’t immediate or linear. After spending years in the automotive industry, baking began as a personal interest, grew quietly during the pandemic, and eventually moved from a home kitchen to the TR Farmers Market before becoming a brick-and-mortar bakery in 2022. We spend time in the work itself — what a normal baking day actually looks like, the scale of producing bread week after week, what still demands patience and attention, and what home bakers often overthink or underestimate. Julian shares how working with flour, fermentation, and time has shaped not just his bread, but the way he approaches decisions, limits, and consistency. We also talk about what changes when a business is born out of enjoyment rather than urgency, the difference between selling at a farmers market and selling behind a counter, and why growth isn’t always the goal. Julian reflects on how his French background influences his relationship with bread, food culture, and restraint — and how knowing when *not* to grow has become central to running Rise Bakery. This isn’t a conversation about hustle or scaling at all costs. It’s about intentional work, staying close to the craft, and building something you can actually sustain.
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Photography, Creative Work, and Finding Purpose Through Craft | Episode 54 with Josiah Hartline
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, I sit down with Upstate photographer and videographer Josiah Hartline for a relaxed, long-form conversation about work, creativity, and calling. We talk about growing up in Greenville, feeling directionless in school, finding purpose through apprenticeship and discipline, and how his relationship to work — and faith — has changed over time. Along the way, we touch on philosophy, and why meaningful work still matters. As always, we start with cigars and let the conversation go where it needs to go. If you enjoy Sunday Afternoon Smokes, the best way to support the show is to give it a follow and share it with someone who appreciates thoughtful conversation. Guest: Josiah Hartline https://www.instagram.com/josiahhartline/ Follow the Show: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Episode 53 with Heidi Greening and Jennifer Stewart
This episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes was recorded in April 2025 and, for a long time, I believed it had been lost. It turns out it wasn’t. What you’re hearing is a fully unscripted, early-season conversation with two entrepreneurs who build meaningful work in very different corners of the country — and who both understand what it means to carry responsibility, uncertainty, and care for others. My guests are Jennifer Stewart, owner and operator of Wellborn Upstate, and Heidi Greening, co-owner of Homer Inn and Spa. There’s no agenda here and no performance. We talk about entrepreneurship, hospitality, running businesses in demanding environments, and the quieter realities of building a life around work that actually matters. The conversation wanders at times — as early conversations often do — but it’s honest, curious, and grounded in lived experience. For me, this episode carries a deeper personal weight. It captures a moment in time — voices, laughter, cadence — exactly as it was. Some recordings are less about the craft and more about the preservation of presence. This is one of those. Take it as it is: long-form, unfiltered, and real. https://www.homerinnandspa.com/ https://www.instagram.com/homerinnandspa/ https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Stroke Recovery, Aphasia, and Brain Injury Rehabilitation | Episode 52 with Courtney Boyd
Episode Clarification: During the conversation, Courtney misspoke when defining acquired brain injury. An acquired brain injury (ABI) refers to any brain injury that occurs after birth and serves as an umbrella term for both traumatic and non-traumatic brain injuries. Traumatic brain injuries result from an external force (such as a fall or motor vehicle accident), while non-traumatic brain injuries are caused by internal factors (such as stroke, tumor, or aneurysm). This clarification is included to ensure accurate information is shared. In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, I sit down with Courtney Boyd, a speech-language pathologist and certified brain injury specialist with the Roger C. Peace Outpatient Brain Injury and Young Stroke Program. We talk about what speech-language pathology really is — far beyond pronunciation — and how communication involves language, cognition, voice, and swallowing. From there, we focus on stroke and brain injury, the communication changes that can happen suddenly, and what patients and families often misunderstand in those early stages. Courtney clearly defines aphasia — what it is, what it is not — and explains different types of aphasia, how it differs from related conditions like apraxia and dysarthria, and what progress in speech therapy realistically looks like when “back to normal” isn’t always the goal. This is a long-form, grounded conversation about communication, recovery, and learning how to live — and connect — when language becomes difficult. **Resources Mentioned in This Episode** If you or someone you love is navigating aphasia, stroke recovery, or brain injury, these organizations and programs offer education, support, and community: American Speech-Language-Hearing Association (ASHA) The national professional organization for speech-language pathologists, with extensive public education resources. 👉 asha.org National Aphasia Association A leading organization focused on education, advocacy, and support for people with aphasia and their families. 👉 aphasia.org (Note: I gave the incorrect web address during the episode — this is the correct site.) Triangle Aphasia Project (TAP) A nonprofit dedicated to life participation, conversation groups, and community for people with aphasia. 👉 aphasiaproject.org Articulate Aphasics Toastmasters A Toastmasters club designed specifically for people with aphasia to practice communication in a supportive environment. 👉 28677762.toastmastersclubs.org Upstate SC Aphasia Support Group Meets the first Wednesday of each month from 12:30–1:30 PM at the Prisma Health YMCA (875 Faris Road, Greenville, SC 29605). For more information, contact Jennifer Leger at [email protected] USC Aphasia Lab A South Carolina–based research and outreach program supporting people with aphasia and their families. 👉 web.asph.sc.edu/aphasia They also produced the documentary “The Disease Detective Looks at Aphasia,” available on Amazon Prime. Young Stroke Support Group Meets the first and third Wednesday of every month from 5:30-6:30 at the Prisma Health Roger C. Peace Outpatient Brain Injury / Young Stroke building. (100 Augusta St., Greenville, SC 29601)
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Puppy Training Foundations and Service Dog Preparation | Episode 51 with Sean Martin
Sean from Jetline Canine Training returns to Sunday Afternoon Smokes after first appearing back in Episode 2 in November 2024. This time, the conversation isn’t about dog training in theory — it’s about what it actually looks like to start a puppy the right way. Poppi, Chris’ new 5-month-old dog, is only about a week into training, so this episode isn’t a highlight reel. It’s a real discussion about foundations, restraint, and why rushing obedience — or labels — often creates bigger problems down the road. We talk through what early training is really reinforcing, why neutrality matters more than friendliness in public spaces, and how training shifts when a dog is being prepared to be genuinely useful for a disabled handler — not just “well behaved.” Sean also breaks down the real-world differences between: • a well-trained pet • a therapy dog • a service dog …without internet myths, certifications for clout, or unrealistic expectations. As the conversation unfolds, it moves beyond dogs into something deeper — commitment, responsibility, and what it actually means to care for someone (or something) over the long haul. We talk candidly about being a decent person when no one’s watching, the difference between real love and transactional love, and why friendships and relationships almost always matter more than strategy or self-interest — in business and in life. It’s an honest, unpolished conversation about training, character, and showing up — whether that’s for a dog, a spouse, or the people you choose to build life with.
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A Biblical Approach to New Year's Resolutions
As the new year is upon us, many people begin thinking about goals, plans, and their annual resolutions. While the practice itself is ancient, this episode approaches the topic from a Biblical perspective on planning, purpose, and dependence on God. In this solo episode, I reflect on what Scripture teaches about making plans, committing our work to the Lord, and recognizing the limits of our control. Drawing from Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Gospels, and personal experience, this conversation explores how Christians can think rightly about the year ahead—without arrogance, discouragement, or false guarantees. This episode is a reminder that effort matters, wisdom matters, and planning matters—but all of it exists under God’s sovereignty. Not every plan works out the way we hope, and not every outcome is ours to control. Still, we are called to live thoughtfully, work diligently, and trust faithfully. Whether you make formal New Year’s Resolutions or simply want to approach the coming year with humility and clarity, I hope this reflection encourages you as 2026 is upon us.
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Brand Strategy, Pottery, and the Power of Knowing Who You Are | Episode 50 with Michelle Getz
Chris sits down with Michelle Getz, brand strategist and potter from the Upstate South Carolina area, for a wide-ranging conversation about what it actually means to build a brand — and why most business owners are doing it backwards. Michelle breaks down the difference between branding and marketing, explains why so many entrepreneurs struggle to articulate what makes them different, and shares how she helps clients find the confidence to show up authentically and charge what they're worth. The conversation covers the creative process behind brand strategy, the unexpected parallels between mentorship and design, and why feeding ChatGPT your brand guidelines before asking it to write your social posts is a smarter move than most people realize. Michelle also talks about her pottery business, Temuna, the tactile joy of working with clay, and the vision she has for where her art is heading next. If you're in the early stages of a business, thinking about a rebrand, or just trying to figure out how to explain what you do in a way that actually lands — this one's for you.
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From Food Truck to Restaurant: Building Matty’s Patties | Episode 49 with Matthew Bradford
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, I sit down with Matt Bradford, co-owner and operator of Matty’s Pattys in Anderson, South Carolina, for a laid-back but thoughtful conversation about cigars, food, and the realities of building a small business. We start, as always, with cigars — talking about what Matt’s been smoking lately, how he got into the hobby, and how cigars have become a way to slow down and reset. From there, the conversation naturally shifts into Matt’s entrepreneurial journey, including the leap from a food truck to a brick-and-mortar restaurant and what it really takes to make that transition work. We go deep on what makes a great burger: the grind, fat ratios, buns, toppings, and the philosophy behind the menu at Matty’s Pattys. Along the way, we talk lunch and breakfast offerings, hot dogs, fries, and eventually tumble headfirst into a surprisingly serious debate — is a hot dog a sandwich? (and if so… is a taco one too?) The episode also touches on small business ownership, lessons learned along the way, and advice for anyone considering starting something of their own. It’s a relaxed, fun conversation with plenty of laughs, honest insight, and a genuine love for good food done right. Light a cigar, grab a burger, and enjoy the conversation.
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A Very Merry Christmas
A Very Merry Christmas In this special solo episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, I slow things down for the Christmas season and reflect on the true meaning of Christmas. Walking through Luke 2:1–18, I share a casual, thoughtful look at the birth of Christ and what it reveals about the love and grace of God—what real love is, what it isn’t, and why the Christmas story still matters today. I also open up about a personal Christmas tradition I share with my children: reading Luke 2 together and talking about grace, gratitude, and the reason we celebrate before the gifts are opened. It’s a simple practice, but one that keeps our focus grounded in something far deeper than the season’s distractions. This episode isn’t a sermon. It’s a quiet conversation—an invitation to pause, reflect, and remember what Christmas is truly about. Whether you’re listening with a cigar, a cup of coffee, or just a few quiet moments to yourself, I hope this episode encourages you and helps center your heart this Christmas season. Merry Christmas.
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How Property Management Builds Passive Income (and Protects Your Rentals) | Episode 48 with Keith Bowling
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, I sit down with my longtime friend Keith Bowling, a seasoned Upstate South Carolina realtor who recently launched Key Renter Upstate, a property management company built around one goal: helping property owners create passive income without the stress. We kick things off the way we always do—talking cigars—and then dive into Keith’s transition from real estate sales into property management, why he made the move, and how this business model creates recurring income instead of one-time commissions. If you own rental property—or are thinking about it—this episode is packed with real insight. We cover: The biggest mistakes landlords make (and how to avoid them) Why tenant screening is EVERYTHING (and how to do it right) What property managers actually handle day-to-day The real cost vs. value of hiring a property management company How to protect and grow your real estate investment long-term Why rental properties are one of the best wealth-building tools available Keith also shares real stories from managing properties, what can go wrong, and how the right systems can eliminate headaches entirely. Whether you have one rental or want to scale to multiple properties, this conversation will help you think like an investor—not just an owner. Connect with Keith / Key Renter Upstate: https://keyrenterupstate.com 864-924-4924 [email protected] Follow the Show: https://instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes
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A Very Thanksgiving Episode
In this special Thanksgiving episode, Chris reflects on the meaning of gratitude through both an American and Biblical lens. He opens with a brief overview of the history of Thanksgiving in the United States before sharing four personal reasons he’s especially thankful this year. From the blessing of being born in a prosperous nation and in a time where the gospel is freely accessible, to the spiritual discipline of gratitude as a defense against materialism, Chris explores how thankfulness shapes perspective and strengthens faith. He also shares a heartfelt expression of gratitude for his wife’s survival and recovery after her health crisis, along with the deep relationships he shares with his family. A reflective, encouraging episode centered on recognizing God’s goodness in every season.
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Episode 46 with Cory Rutland
**this episode suffers from some sound quality issues. I don't know why. I'm not a pro, but here it is!** Joining Chris for ep. 46 of SAS is Cory Rutland, co-owner and operator of Local Pie. It's not a pizza truck, they're so serious and good at it, it's really a mobile pizzeria. Chris and Cory both light up a Hoyo de Monterrey Excalibur, talk cigars for a little bit, and then they dive into the world of sliging pies out of mobile rig. Cory highlights the struggles in getting his business started, the quality ingredients they use, what makes for a great pizza, and they wrap up the show with a little bit of Cory's background on how he got to Greenville from North Augusta, GA. https://www.localpiepizzacompany.com/ https://www.gofundme.com/support-jennifer-stewarts-medical-recovery https://open.spotify.com/show/3dQXtUZBSueL1Tmxxb8oXu?si=d4cf7e3c0c714212 https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes https://www.mobilecigarbox.com https://x.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/mobilecigarbox https://chrisstrother.cdanjoyner.com
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How Blackwater Roasters Built a Specialty Coffee Shop in Seneca South Carolina | Episode 45 with Jonboy Ellis and Stephanie Harmon
Jonboy Ellis, owner of Blackwater Roasters, and Stephanie Harmon, coffee shop manager, sit down with Chris to discuss all things coffee. Jonby and Chris, light up cigars and they jump into the world of cigars. It doesn't take long to get the conversation onto the topic of coffee. One of the few roasters in the Upstate, Jonboy and Stephanie walk us through what goes on at Blackwater from roasting, cupping, drink creation to guest service. They also make some clarification for us on what espresso is and is not. https://www.blackwaterroasters.com/ https://www.instagram.com/blackwater_roasters/ https://www.instagram.com/jonboye1776/ https://www.instagram.com/stephl_harmon/ https://www.gofundme.com/support-jennifer-stewarts-medical-recovery https://www.mobilecigarbox.com https://www.instagram.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes https://open.spotify.com/show/3dQXtUZBSueL1Tmxxb8oXu?si=d4cf7e3c0c714212 https://chrisstrother.cdanjoyner.com
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Episode 44 with Bethany Haile
Bethany Haile, Founder and owner of Bethany's Wildflowers Salon and co-owner of Upstate College of Cosmetology joins sits down with Chris to explore the world of hair and beauty. Due to poor weather, they are unable to smoke, but a fair amount of cigar talk ensues. After discussing cigars and coffee, the two move on to how she launched her business in Central, SC, moved to Clemson, and then chose to downsize and head back to her roots in Central. They also discuss her purchase of Upstate Cosmetology, what students learn there, and what it's like to run a cosmetology school. https://www.instagram.com/bethany.haile.1/ https://www.instagram.com/bethanyswildflowerssalon/ https://www.instagram.com/ucceasley/ https://www.gofundme.com/support-jennifer-stewarts-medical-recovery https://www.mobilecigarbox.com https://x.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes https://open.spotify.com/show/3dQXtUZBSueL1Tmxxb8oXu?si=d4cf7e3c0c714212 https://chrisstrother.cdanjoyner.com
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Episode 43 with Scott Mack
Scott Matt, owner of Mack Home Inspections comes on Sunday Afternoon Smokes. Chris and Matt both light up a Crazy Alice by Drew Estate and pour a little bit of Elijah Craig bourbon. Chris educates Matt on cigars, who considers himself a novice. Then the conversation turns to Matt's specialty, home inspections. He clues us in on what a home inspection is, walks us through the process, and even takes time to talk about Radon. Finally, the episode wraps up revolving around Matt's personal sabbatical overseas and his transition to Greenville.
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Episode 42 with Justin McComas and Mike Malloy
Justin McComas and Mike Malloy, owners of Natureline Curbing, join Chris for episode 42 of SAS. Chris lights up an Artista Ambar Puro, Justin enjoys a La Gloria Cubana Serie R, and Mike goes light with the Torano Dominico. The trio cover Justin's in home smoking room, a good discussion on cigars, and then they jump into the business they founded, Natureline Cubing which aims to help your landscaping and prevent water erosion. To wrap things up the jump into Justin and Mike's previous career in California as law enforcement officers. https://www.naturelinecurbing.com/ https://www.gofundme.com/support-jennifer-stewarts-medical-recovery https://www.mobilecigarbox.com https://x.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes https://open.spotify.com/show/3dQXtUZBSueL1Tmxxb8oXu?si=d4cf7e3c0c714212 https://chrisstrother.cdanjoyner.com
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Gut Health, Hormones, and Functional Nutrition | Episode 41 with Rebekah Fedrowitz
Founder and owner of Sante Vie Wellness, Rebekah Fedrowitz, joins Chris for episode 41. Sante Vie Wellness is a functional wellness practice in Greenville, SC that guides their clients with realistic, strategic steps to improve how they feel and function. As a Board Certified Holistic Nutritionist, Rebekah founded Sante Vie from her own struggles with health. The conversation revolves around what health is, the food we consume, and approaching our health from the point of view that the body should be looked at as a whole unit. A little cigar talk up front as Chris wants to know a professional opinion on cigars. https://www.santeviewellness.com/ https://www.instagram.com/santeviewellness/ https://www.gofundme.com/support-jennifer-stewarts-medical-recovery https://www.mobilecigarbox.com https://x.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes https://open.spotify.com/show/3dQXtUZBSueL1Tmxxb8oXu?si=d4cf7e3c0c714212 https://chrisstrother.cdanjoyner.com
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Young Stroke Recovery, Brain Injury Rehab, and Stroke Survivor Support | Episode 40 with Marty Van Dam and Lucas de Affonseca
Chris sits down with Marty Van Dam and Lucas de Affonseca for an important conversation about stroke recovery, brain injury rehabilitation, and the long road of rebuilding life after a hemorrhagic stroke. Marty, a speech pathologist and manager of the Outpatient Brain Injury and Young Stroke Program at Roger C. Peace, brings the clinical perspective, while Lucas shares his firsthand experience as a young stroke survivor. This episode is especially personal for Chris, whose wife Jennifer suffered a brain aneurysm and stroke in April. Together, they explore what a stroke actually is, the difference between hemorrhagic and ischemic strokes, the emotional and physical realities of recovery, and the importance of support systems for both survivors and caregivers. The conversation also highlights the Young Stroke Support Group at Roger C. Peace, the value of rehabilitation, and the hope that can still exist even when life has been permanently changed by a stroke. Follow Roger C. Peace on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ph_rogercpeace/ Follow Sunday Afternoon Smokes on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Teen Substance Abuse Prevention and Youth Mentorship | Episode 39 with Martine Helou-Allen
Chris sits down with Martine Helou-Allen, founder and executive director of RIZE Prevention, for a wide-ranging conversation about youth substance abuse prevention, addiction, trauma, faith, and the search for identity and belonging. Martine shares her personal story and the mission behind RIZE Prevention, an organization working to inspire and equip young people to rise above the influence of drugs, addiction, and destructive behaviors. Along the way, Chris and Martine also discuss cigars, hookah culture, and the meticulous process of turning raw tobacco into a premium hand-rolled cigar. The conversation ultimately turns toward a deeper topic: how many teens today are searching for love, purpose, and belonging—and how the absence of those things can lead young people toward substance abuse and unhealthy coping mechanisms. RIZE Prevention works directly with students, parents, and schools to mentor teens and help them build healthier futures before addiction ever takes hold. Learn more about RIZE Prevention: https://rizeprevention.org/ Follow RIZE Prevention on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rizeprevention/ Follow Sunday Afternoon Smokes: https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes/
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Branding for Small Business: How to Build a Brand That Connects | Episode 38 with Lauren "Yaya" Villano
In this episode of Sunday Afternoon Smokes, Chris sits down with Lauren Villano, founder of Branded by Yaya, to talk about what branding really means for small businesses—and why it’s much more than just a logo. If you’re an entrepreneur, business owner, or creative trying to stand out, this conversation breaks down how to build a brand that actually connects with people. Lauren shares her approach to brand design, focusing on the human side of business—your story, your values, and the experience you create for your customers. They also discuss: What branding is (and what it isn’t) Why your logo alone isn’t your brand How to create a consistent brand identity Common mistakes small business owners make When it’s time to rebrand your business The role of personality and storytelling in marketing Lauren also shares her journey from studying film and moving to New York, to building a creative business centered around helping others bring their ideas to life. Whether you’re just starting a business or looking to refine your brand, this episode will give you practical insight into building something that lasts. Connect with Lauren (Branded by Yaya): https://brandedbyyaya.com https://instagram.com/brandedbyyaya Follow the Show: https://instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes
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Episode 37 with Rory Tyer
Sitting down with Chris for episode 37 is Rory Tyer, owner of South Pleasantburg Nursery in Greenville, SC. Rory lights up a H. Upmann Anejados and Chris smokes an Espinosa Laranja. A little bit of cigar talk, but otherwise a very business heavy episode. Rory talks about purchasing SPN, what it looks like for someone to purchase a business, and he breaks down for us what a business coach is and isn't. https://spnursery.com/ https://www.instagram.com/spnursery/ https://www.gofundme.com/support-jennifer-stewarts-medical-recovery https://www.mobilecigarbox.com https://thecigarbox.printful.me https://x.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/mobilecigarbox https://www.instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes https://www.youtube.com/@SundayAfternoonSmokes https://open.spotify.com/show/3dQXtUZBSueL1Tmxxb8oXu?si=d4cf7e3c0c714212 https://chrisstrother.cdanjoyner.com
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Faith, Marriage, and Real Life: A Pastor’s Perspective on Love, Leadership, and Struggle | Episode 36 with David Lyles
In this conversation, I sit down with David Lyles, pastor of Connection Fellowship Church in Powdersville, SC, to talk about faith—not in theory, but in real life. We cover everything from Christian marriage and leadership to personal struggles, doubt, and what it actually looks like to trust God in difficult seasons. This is an honest, grounded conversation about: What biblical leadership and marriage really look like The difference between conviction and judgment in the Christian life Faith, doubt, and learning to trust God in hard seasons Why many churches get distracted from what actually matters The role of community and why the church still matters How to live out your faith beyond Sunday mornings We also talk through real-life challenges—marriage, hardship, and responsibility—and how faith holds up when life gets heavy. If you’ve ever wrestled with faith, church, or what it means to actually follow Jesus, this episode will meet you where you are. 📍 Learn more about Connection Fellowship Church: 🌐 https://connectionfellowship.org 🎧 Enjoying the show? Leave a review and share it with someone who needs to hear it. Follow the show: https://instagram.com/sundayafternoonsmokes
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Sunday Afternoon Smokes is a long-form podcast hosted by Chris Strother, featuring unhurried conversations with entrepreneurs, founders, business owners, and leaders across the Upstate of South Carolina.Each episode explores business, leadership, faith, risk, and the realities of building something meaningful. Recorded at the table, not the podium. Cigars are part of the setting — never the requirement.Settle in. Enjoy the conversation.
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