The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins

What if becoming a better coach and connector, not just a better marketer, is the real path to sustainable growth? In this solo episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins gets honest about why so many coaches and leaders are stuck doing all the right activities and still not breaking through. She unpacks the difference between surface-level networking and below-the-surface connection, why the people who seem to "get ahead" often crash out, and what it actually means to differentiate yourself in an AI age, not with tools, but with identity.  🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcasts  Episode Chapters & Key Moments  [00:00] Welcome back & announcements from Change Coaches LaTonya returns with a solo deep dive: the first in a while. Updates on the newsletter, YouTube, and what's coming next  [03:00] Coaching Below the Surface™ — two cohorts coming September 2026. What the program is, who it's for, and why it exists. The link between the book Leading Below the Surface and this training  [06:00] Marketing & networking on the surface vs. connecting below it. Are these two things mutually exclusive? LaTonya says yes. Why below-the-surface connection is more sustainable, more grounded, and more aligned [09:00] Two coaches who felt like they weren't "real" coaches. The coach gets clients but unable to go deeper with them. The coach with an ACC who still didn't feel like a coach  [12:00] The leader who networks well but crashes out every time. Why the people who seem to get everything often don't last. What LaTonya has seen happen when values and skill aren't aligned  [15:00] Short term appearance vs. long term reality. The most important distinction in this episode. Why chasing short-term wins is a losing long game.  [18:00] Lizzo, AI, and why the leveling is already happening. What a flopped album has to do with your coaching business.  Why AI is a tool and not the differentiator everyone thinks it is  [21:00] Your differentiator isn't a tool, it's your identity as a leader. What LaTonya means by identity (and what she doesn't). The questions that most coaches and leaders never get around to asking  [24:00] What competent coaches and great leaders have in common. They don't chase clients  and they don't have unmanageable team issues. How staying ahead is a byproduct of going deeper  [27:00] What to do next. How to go deeper with Coaching Below the Surface™.Where to find LaTonya and stay connected  Learn More🔹 Send me an email: [email protected]🔹Join our Coaching Below the Surface Waitlist: https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface-interest-form/🔹 Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved, September 2026 cohorts): https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/ 🔹 Leading Below the Surface newsletter (semi-monthly): https://change-coaches.kit.com/profile 🔹 Change Coaches on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcasts 🔹 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches 🔹 Connect with LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/

Why do companies hire a coach instead of fixing the real problem? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Katherine Lord, MSW, LSW, Director of Organizational Member Experience at ICF Coaching in Organizations for a candid conversation about what coaching actually does and doesn't do, why “ROI” is the wrong lens for measuring its impact, and how organizations sometimes use coaching to avoid holding up the mirror to themselves. From the “barge in a canal” theory of organizational change to why an AI coach will never replace a human one, this episode goes below the surface of what coaching in companies really looks like.🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters:https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcastsEpisode Chapters & Key Moments[00:00] Welcome & introducing Katherine Lord[04:29] Katherine's path from social work to coaching at ICF[08:06] “Therapy's backward, coaching's forward”[12:12] Return on Investment vs. Return on Expectation (ROE)[16:27] Why there's no clean ROI formula for coaching[20:28] The case for humans over widget, and over AI, as the investment[22:48] Organizational coaching is still coaching[24:53] Do orgs hire coaches to avoid systemic problems?[29:53] A real case study: burnout, silos, and a mirror the org wasn't ready for[31:31] Where AI and coaching actually intersect[35:09] AI as a “capacity builder” and not a magic pill[37:58] Tech backlash: why forcing AI adoption backfires[42:14] “We scale what we value”[43:25] Human-to-human connection vs. talking to Alexa[45:48] What should orgs look for when hiring a coach?[48:47] Debunking the myth that big companies only hire big coaching firmsAssociated Links🔹 Katherine Lord: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherineblord/🔹 ICF Coaching in Organizations: https://coachingfederation.org/about/the-icf-ecosystem/icf-coaching-in-organization/🔹 International Coaching Federation: https://coachingfederation.org🔹 Explore Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved): https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/🔹 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches🔹 LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/🔹 If this conversation resonated, come go deeper with me. I send a semi-monthly newsletter on grounded leadership, identity, and what it means to lead below the surface. Join here: https://change-coaches.kit.com/profileTAGS#CoachingInOrganizations #ExecutiveCoaching #CoachingROI #LeadershipDevelopment #OrganizationalChange #ICF #AIandCoaching #WorkplaceCulture #LeadingBelowTheSurface #ChangeCoaches

What if healing your inner child could unlock the wisdom of your ancestors? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Tamala Floyd, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Psychotherapist, and the first Black IFS lead trainer  for a raw and revelatory conversation about Internal Family Systems (IFS), ancestral trauma, and what it really takes to heal below the surface. From navigating white-dominated spaces to transforming inherited rage, Tamala shares how IFS can reach the communities that need it most and how you can start your own healing journey without ever stepping into a therapy office.🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcastsEpisode Chapters [00:00] Welcome & introducing Tamala FloydLaTonya shares how she discovered Tamala's book through a previous guestWhy she's fangirling — and what makes this conversation different[03:15] Being the first Black IFS lead trainerHow Tamala came to IFS through The Body Keeps the ScoreWhat it means to be a gatekeeper — and why representation in leadership matters[07:30] Bringing IFS into Black and marginalized communitiesWhy language and framing matter when working across culturesThe "storyteller part" — and why Tamala pushed back on the traditional IFS approach[11:00] What IFS actually is — and why it's not a fadParts, protectors, and getting to the root of trauma (not just managing it)[15:00] LaTonya's personal IFS session & the ten-year-old withinA vulnerable share about divorce, displacement, and emotional catharsisWhat it felt like to finally talk to her younger self[18:00] Tamala's ten-year-old — abandonment, rejection, and healingHow Tamala's own wound shaped her people-pleasing and rageWhat happened when that part finally released its burden[20:30] Reconnecting with your inner child through travel, play, and joyHow Tamala's ten-year-old "drags her by the hand" to the beachWhy adult joy doesn't have to look exactly like childhood joy — just carry its spirit[26:00] Where to start: what's not working & what triggers youTwo entry points for doing your own IFS workThe question to ask yourself when a protective part shows up: What am I afraid would happen if I didn't do this?[31:00] Jealousy, envy, and the fixed vs. growth mindsetWhat envy is really protecting — and the scarcity wound underneathWhy two things can be true at once[34:00] Parts, contradictions, and why you're not inconsistentHow to make sense of holding opposing beliefs at the same time"You're dealing with two different parts of me" — the most freeing reframe[37:00] Legacy burdens and bringing in ancestral wisdomTamala's original contribution to IFS: inviting ancestors in to release inherited woundsWhy it's not your burden to carry — and how to let it go for your whole lineage[41:00] Altars, ancestors, and practical ways to connectWhere to start if you want to connect with your ancestors todayPlants, photos, and conversations — small acts with big resonance[43:00] Healing Works Academy — IFS for everyoneWhy Tamala created an online space for self-guided IFS healing[45:00] Where to find Tamala & final thoughtsResources, platforms, and how to go deeper with this workResources 🔹 Tamala Floyd: https://tamalafloyd.com 🔹 Healing Works Academy:https://www.tamalafloyd.com/work-with-me/   🔹 Book: Listening When Parts Speak — available at Bookshop.org  🔹 Explore Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved): https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/ 🔹 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches 🔹 LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/🔹 If this conversation resonated, come go deeper with me. I send a semi-monthly newsletter on grounded leadership, identity, and what it means to lead below the surface. Join here: https://change-coaches.kit.com/profile

Is HR really your friend? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with two seasoned HR veterans, Turiya Gray (HR Unconfidential) and Krista Lane (HR Peep Show) for a candid, unfiltered conversation about what it really means to work in and with HR. From surprise performance reviews to AI-driven layoffs to the myth of the strategic seat at the table, they go below the surface on what HR is actually for, who holds the power, and what it looks like when HR leaders show up with courage.🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcastsEpisode Chapters & Key Moments[00:00] Is HR your friend? Setting the stage LaTonya shares what inspired this episode: layoffs, bad experiences, and a question she couldn't shake.[03:15] Introducing Turiya Gray, fractional CPO, 25+ years in HR From leading HR teams at tech companies to fractional work and why she's "over the HR profession."[05:00] Introducing Krista Lane,fractional HR for startups and nonprofits Why she got into fractional HR and what she means by "secretly not boring."[06:40] LaTonya's HR horror stories: A mentor who gave a surprise bad review. A senior leader who fast-tracked her then ghosted her. Sound familiar?[09:55] Performance reviews: the real story. Why surprises in reviews signal a broken system, misaligned incentives, and a culture of fear instead of growth.[10:00] Turiya's honest take: HR is not your friend. What HR should be and why conflating the role with friendship creates unrealistic expectations and real harm.[13:40] So who is HR actually for? Navigating the multi-spoke service model between company, leaders, and employees, and where the hierarchy really lives.[23:50] AI as a layoff excuse: myth or reality? Why Krista is skeptical that AI alone drives major workforce reductions, and what's actually going on under the hood.[28:50] The HR pushback problem: How effective HR leaders pressure-test business decisions and why too many roll over instead.[35:30] Coaching people out vs. pushing them out. Why LaTonya believes in coaching as an exit strategy, and what a more humane, low-friction separation actually looks like.[37:00] The PIP problem. Turiya's 50 questions. Why Turiya asks 49 questions about the manager before agreeing to put anyone on a performance improvement plan.[42:40] What grounded HR leadership really looks like. Values, courage, business acumen, and creativity and why the HR playbook is overdue for disruption.[48:00] Where to find Turiya and Krista Podcast links, events, and how to connect.Calls to Action🔹 Turiya Gray — HR Unconfidential Podcast (100th episode coming this summer!): https://www.linkedin.com/company/hr-unconfidential 🔹 Krista Lane — HR Peep Show Podcast + Headwaters HR: headwatershr.com 🔹 Explore Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved): https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/ 🔹 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches 🔹 Connect with LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/

What if the stars could help you understand your identity, your growth, and your next chapter? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins reunites with identity and belonging coach Erin Corine Johnson for a deeply personal and expansive conversation about astrology, decolonizing coaching, and what it really means to show up for yourself and others below the surface. Drawing from her own coaching journey and LaTonya's biggest life transitions, Erin unpacks how astrology can serve as a grounding tool for identity work, and what becomes possible when we stop letting capitalism define how we show up for each other.----Chapters[00:00] Welcome back & what's been happening at Change Coaches [03:15] Reintroducing Erin Corine Johnson — from Chicago to Spain [07:30] How LaTonya and Erin started working together [11:00] Astrology as a coaching tool — beyond the sun sign [16:20] Your big three: sun, moon, and rising explained [22:00] The lunar cycle and how to use it in your life and work [28:30] What leadership really is — and why it's both abstract and concrete [34:00] Decolonizing coaching — what it means and why it matters [40:15] Why capitalism is the only reason to gatekeep your care [46:00] No one is ever too much — a new coaching philosophy ⸻Learn More🔹 Erin Corine Johnson: https://identitybelongingcoach.com | https://holamagnolia.com/🔹 Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved program): https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/🔹 Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches🔹 LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcastsGet a free astrology birth chart here: https://www.chani.com/chart

What does your relationship with money really say about you — and the systems you were raised in? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with financial coach and trainer Saundra Davis for a raw, wise, and deeply human conversation about money, trauma, and economic justice. Drawing from decades of experience at the intersection of financial coaching and economic justice, Saundra unpacks why so many people — especially people of color — struggle with money, and why that struggle has far less to do with personal failure than with systems designed to extract wealth from those least equipped to fight back. This episode offers compassion, clarity, and a reframe of what it truly means to build wealth.🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters:https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcastsEpisode Chapters & Key Moments[00:00] Intro & how LaTonya met Saundra at ICF ConvergeThe story behind the connection and what makes Saundra's work distinctAuntie energy and why it matters in financial coaching[04:30] Auntie energy, kinfolk, and the generational gapWhat it means to show up with warmth and zero judgmentBridging generational differences in how we talk about money[10:00] Music, community, and staying connected across generationsHow shared culture keeps us rootedThe role of community in financial healing[16:20] Growing up poor and the scarcity mindsetHow childhood environments shape our earliest money beliefsWhy scarcity thinking isn't a personal flaw — it's a survival response[21:00] How the environment creates our relationship with moneySystems, not character, create povertyWhy shame around money is a design feature, not a bug[26:45] Trauma, money, and two kids raised in the same houseHow the same circumstances can produce opposite money responsesWhy both responses make complete sense[31:30] Why people in poverty pay more — and the consumer trapPredatory credit, bank fees, and the true cost of being poorHow the financial system extracts wealth from those with the least[37:00] LaTonya's first car and what she was really buyingThe deeper emotional drivers behind financial decisionsWhy every purchase makes sense when you understand the belief behind it[43:00] Guilt, giving back, and the "Black tax" mythThe emotional weight of financial success in community-oriented culturesReframing obligation and generosity[49:15] Money in service of your goalsWealth-building as honoring those who came beforeShifting from scarcity to purpose-driven financial thinking[54:00] The Starbucks story — what are you really buying?You're never just buying the thingPeace, connection, identity, and belonging as real financial motivators[58:30] Where to start: resources, kindness, and next stepsPractical entry points for your financial journeyStarting with self-compassion, not self-criticismCalls to Action🔹 Learn more about Saundra Davis & Sage Financial Solutions:https://sagefinancialsolutions.org🔹 Explore Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved):https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/🔹 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches🔹 Connect with LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/

In this solo episode, LaTonya Wilkins explores a feeling many leaders, coaches, and consultants are quietly naming right now: the sense that traditional leadership frameworks and learning models no longer meet the complexity of today’s world.Drawing from recent client work, leadership development experience, and conversations across industries, LaTonya unpacks what’s no longer working, what leaders are truly craving, and why presence, trust, and community matter more than ever in this moment. This episode offers reflection prompts and a grounded invitation to consider how leadership and coaching must evolve beyond transactional approaches.🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters:https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcastsEpisode Chapters & Key Moments[00:00] Why leaders feel ready for something newNaming the collective feeling many leaders and coaches are experiencingWhy this isn’t burnout or lack of skill[02:45] What’s no longer working in leadership developmentThe limits of frameworks, checklists, and box solutionsWhy ROI-driven models fall short in today’s environment[07:20] The realities leaders are navigating right nowConstant reorganization, overload, and shifting expectationsWhat gets lost when everything becomes a priority[12:10] What leaders are actually cravingPresence, trust, hope, courage, and communityWhy adaptability alone isn’t enough[17:05] From information to experienceWhy information is no longer the currencyThe power of containers, practice, and self-authorship[22:30] Community at work and why it mattersThe role of connection, psychological safety, and belongingWhat happens when leaders don’t have space to process[27:40] What works at this stage of leadershipPresence as a practiceTrust built in real time through listening and empathy[32:10] Reflection questions for leaders and coachesWhat are you craving differently right now?What no longer works for you?[36:00] Coaching Below the Surface and what’s nextCreating containers for leaders and coachesUpcoming March 2026 pods and organizational offeringsCalls to Action🔹 Explore Coaching Below the Surface™ (ICF-approved):https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/🔹 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches🔹 Connect with LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/

What does it really mean to be trauma-informed—and why does this matter far beyond therapy? In this deeply personal and educational episode, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Lion Goodman, coach, author, and founder of the Clear Beliefs Institute, who shares his incredible story of surviving being shot in the head four times—and how that life-altering moment shaped his approach to healing and leadership.Lion breaks down the difference between surface-level coaching and therapeutic coaching, how trauma shows up even in “successful” people, and how we can begin to unhook the past to truly move forward. Whether you’re a coach, a leader, or someone who wants to support others more skillfully, this conversation is rich, grounded, and unforgettable.🔗 Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface:https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/📲 Connect on LinkedIn:Change Coaches: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coachesLaTonya Wilkins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/🎥 Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcasts📝 Timestamps + Summary[00:00] Welcome and how LaTonya met Lion GoodmanConnection at ICF Converge and why Lion’s work stood outMeaning behind the name “Lion” and his Leo identity[12:00] A near-death experience that changed everythingLion recounts being shot four times and survivingThe experience deepened his spiritual and professional journey[21:10] When coaching falls short without addressing traumaClients often loop when past wounds go unexaminedLion begins to integrate deeper healing techniques[28:20] What it means to unhook a beliefBeliefs are formed through experience, not logicMemory reconsolidation can rewrite core identity structures[38:00] Psychedelics and trauma workPowerful for deconstructing beliefs—but dangerous without integrationCoaches must be trained to guide responsibly[44:10] Coaching vs. therapy: how they overlap and differCoaches walk with you, but must know how to help offload traumaWhy trauma-informed doesn’t mean “doing therapy”[48:00] Common mistakes when talking about traumaOvergeneralizing what trauma is—or avoiding it altogetherCoaches need to clear their own trauma to avoid projection[51:30] Where to start with trauma-informed supportAsk “what’s underneath that?” to go deeperBe grounded, breathe, and avoid judgment when holding spaceTags: Trauma Informed Coaching, Lion Goodman, Therapeutic Coaching, Executive Coaching, LaTonya Wilkins, Leading Below the Surface, Coaching Below the Surface, Psychological Safety, Memory Reconsolidation, Coaching and Trauma, Psychedelic Integration, Clear Beliefs Method, Coaching Tools, Executive Development, Limiting Beliefs, ICF Accredited, Personal Growth, Coaching Conversations, Coaching Podcastand

Show NotesIn this episode of Leading Below the Surface, I reflect on the lessons that quietly shaped my year — not through big milestones or dramatic changes, but through slower growth, healing, and learning to listen more closely to my body and intuition.Rather than setting rigid goals, I share why I’ve been leaning into intentions and clarity, supported by science around behavior change, visualization, and motivation. We explore what it means to set “soft stretch” goals that are ambitious but achievable, why manic manifesting can actually work against us, and how progress often unfolds more slowly — and more sustainably — than we expect.I also talk openly about endings, healing, and the quiet shifts that signal real growth, even when it doesn’t look loud from the outside. This episode is an invitation to pause, reflect, and enter the next chapter with more intention and less urgency.If you’re someone who feels called to move forward thoughtfully — not frantically — this conversation is for you.This episode is also available on YouTube. You can watch and subscribe to the Leading Below the Surface Podcast on the Change Coaches YouTube channel, where we’re focusing our energy moving forward.Key Themes & TakeawaysWhy intentions can be more effective than rigid goal-settingThe science behind “soft stretch” goals and sustainable motivationHow visualizing challenges (not just success) supports real behavior changeThe difference between intentional growth and manic manifestingWhy the next step forward is often already in front of youHow endings create space for healing and clarityWhat quiet growth looks like — and why it still countsReflection Prompts from the EpisodeWhat is your body telling you that you may be overriding or ignoring?Where might you be forcing progress instead of allowing it to unfold?What endings — habits, roles, relationships, or expectations — may be asking for your attention?Listen, Watch, and Connect🎧 Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify📺 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcasts🔗 Coaching Below the Surface: https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/🔗 Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches🔗 LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/🔗 Full Article on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-2025-taught-me-letting-go-healing-trust-latonya-wilkins-udscc

PODCAST DESCRIPTIONIn this candid episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with executive coach and Consciously CEO Kvon Tucker to talk about what it really takes to break away from dominant leadership standards – especially inside big-name companies like Netflix, Amazon, and Google.Kvon shares how a suicidal depression in his late 20s became a turning point, why he ultimately walked away from a “dream” tech career, and how he and his family ended up in Costa Rica designing a more human, spiritually aligned life. Kvon unpacks the dangerous mix of hypergrowth, fear-based leadership, and ego-driven cultures – and what it looks like to lead consciously instead, in a way that centers love, liberation, and human wellbeing.This is a below the surface conversation about work, worth, ego, redemption, and the kind of leadership our world actually needs right now.EPISODE SUMMARYIn this conversation, we explore:How Kvon’s mental health crisis woke him up to a life and career he didn’t actually choose.His path through Netflix, Amazon, and Google – and what was really happening beneath the “best places to work” branding.The “dark triad” traits that often get rewarded in dominant leadership cultures, and why they’re so harmful.Hypergrowth vs. natural growth: why the pace that works for business often breaks human bodies.Three practices Kvon recommends for anyone who wants to lead more consciously: meditation, healing work (like therapy), and coaching.ABOUT OUR GUEST – KVON TUCKERKvon Tucker is an executive coach and the CEO of Consciously, a coaching and consulting company that helps leaders build more conscious, human-centered organizations. Before founding Consciously, he led manager and leadership development at companies including Netflix, Amazon, and Google. Today, Kvon coaches leaders around the world as they navigate identity shifts, burnout, and the desire to lead in a way that’s more aligned with their values, spiritual growth, and real life. He lives in Costa Rica with his wife and daughter.KEY INSIGHTSDominant leadership standards are often built on fear, hypergrowth, and ego – not love, wellness, or liberation.Big-name “dream companies” can simultaneously offer incredible opportunities and deeply misaligned cultures. Both can be true.Hypergrowth works for revenue, but it’s usually unsustainable for human nervous systems and family life.Many leaders are waking up to the fact that the path they’ve been on is no longer serving them – there’s a real shift in collective consciousness happening.Ego isn’t always “bad.” It can be redirected toward growth and impact when we’re aware of it and in relationship with it.You can’t be serious about liberation if you’re not serious about practices that help you know yourself – like meditation, therapy, and coaching.LEARN MORE:If this conversation resonated, here are a few ways to go deeper:Work with Kvon or learn more about his workWebsite: https://consciously.oneLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kvontuckerExplore Coaching Below the Surface (ICF-approved coach training)Learn more about the Coaching Below the Surface program and upcoming cohorts:https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/Work with LaTonya & Change CoachesLearn about keynotes, leadership development, and coaching for executives and teams:https://changecoaches.ioConnect with LaTonya & Change CoachesLaTonya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coachesListen & follow the podcastFollow “Leading Below the Surface” wherever you listen to podcasts, and share this episode with someone who’s questioning dominant leadership standards or reevaluating their own path.

In this special replay of a Change Coaches Community Event, we explore how to stay mentally, emotionally, and physiologically grounded while leading in uncertain times.Blythe Landry — therapist, trauma specialist, and author of Trauma Intelligence — joins LaTonya to share real-world, accessible mental health practices that help leaders thrive without burning out.You’ll hear discussion, guidance, and tools rooted in science, nervous-system awareness, grief work, and Below the Surface leadership. We also uplift wisdom from the community members who joined live — demonstrating the power of connection and shared learning.This isn’t self-care theory. It’s practical, lived resilience for today’s world.Episode HighlightsWhy uncertainty fuels stress — and how leaders can respond with grounding, not urgencyThe role of micro-rest, boundaries, and intentional recoveryTools to reconnect with your body and calm your nervous systemEmotional hygiene habits and rituals to keep you steadyHow to support others without carrying their emotional loadThe restorative power of nature, community, and mindful movementWhat it looks like to lead like a human — not a machine Key Insights• Leaders can’t control chaos — but they can control rituals, structure, and presence• Nervous system literacy is leadership literacy• Rest isn’t indulgent — it’s strategic• Community care is a resilience multiplierAbout Today’s Guest: Blythe LandryBlythe Landry, MSW, MEd, LCSW, is a nationally recognized trauma and grief therapist, author of Trauma Intelligence, and founder of Grief to Purpose, a program supporting individuals healing from loss. She brings 25 years of experience helping people transform grief and adversity into grounded strength and connection.Learn more about Blythe at BlytheLandry.com🔗 Links & Resources• Learn about Coaching Below the Surface™https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/• Join our community events listhttps://changecoaches.io/community• Connect with LaTonya on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/• Learn more about Change Coacheshttps://changecoaches.ioIf today’s conversation resonated, share it with someone who leads with heart and is navigating uncertainty.To deepen your practice and connect live with other values-driven leaders, join our community events list — we’d love to see you in the room next time.

In a world that increasingly feels uncertain — and at times, broken — how do we stay grounded as leaders and human beings?In this powerful conversation, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Dr. Caroline Adelman, clinical psychologist, coach, and founder of Chicago Psychotherapy, to explore what it truly means to lead and live well amid chaos. Together, they uncover how chronic stress, disconnection, and unpredictability shape our lives — and how we can rebuild connection through everyday mental health practices that actually work.Dr. Adelman shares evidence-based techniques rooted in therapy and neuroscience that help leaders regulate emotions, create stability, and bring real compassion into the workplace. Whether you’re leading a team, a business, or just trying to stay grounded yourself, this conversation offers practical wisdom for navigating a complex, broken world — one human moment at a time.Connection — not control — is the foundation of resilience.Stress disconnects us from ourselves, others, and what matters most; awareness and intention reconnect us.Leaders don’t need to have all the answers, but they do need to show care, humility, and hope.Simple rituals — listening, check-ins, walk-and-talks — can transform workplace wellbeing.Human-centered leadership is the antidote to fear-based systems.Dr. Caroline Adelman, PhD, is a clinical psychologist, coach, and founder of Chicago Psychotherapy. She completed her PhD at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and fellowships at the Yale Child Study Center. She previously served on the clinical faculty at Northwestern University and has spent over fifteen years helping children, adults, and professionals navigate anxiety, trauma, and transitions.Dr. Adelman’s work integrates evidence-based therapy with compassion, humor, and authenticity. She’s a frequent speaker and consultant on resilience, wellness, and leadership.To learn more, visit ChicagoPsychotherapy.com/dr-caroline-adelman. Resources MentionedLeading Below the Surface (2nd Edition): leadingbelowthesurface.comLaTonya’s article “The Relationship Between Psychological Safety and Accountability”: changecoaches.io/the-relationship-between-psychological-safety-and-accountability🎧 Listen & Subscribe: changecoaches.io/podcast🔗 Follow LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins🔗 Follow Change Coaches: linkedin.com/company/change-coaches🌐 Learn more about our work: changecoaches.io

Authoritarian, fear-based leadership might seem loud and everywhere—but that doesn’t mean it’s working. In this solo episode, LaTonya Wilkins, award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface (second edition out Sept. 30), unpacks why dominant leadership standards—rigidity, perfectionism, and toxic meritocracy—are failing organizations today. Drawing on Chapter 2 of her book, LaTonya contrasts authoritarian and relational leadership, shares personal insights from the field, and explains why relational leadership is the future in an era of mental health challenges, AI disruption, and broken systems.She also teases upcoming guest conversations on mental health and conscious leadership. If you’ve been told to “toughen up” or “lead with fear” to get results, this episode will give you evidence, strategies, and courage to lead differently.Authoritarian leadership OwlCast episode referenced: SpotifyAppleKey Insights:Dominant leadership standards (rigidity, fear, optics) are outdated and erode innovation and psychological safety.Authoritarian leadership thrives on fear and appears louder than it is—but relational leadership creates sustainable performance.Relational leadership is essential as workplaces face unprecedented challenges and employees bring their whole selves to work.Situational leadership and coaching cultures are powerful relational tools that drive inclusion, collaboration, and trust.Sticking with relational leadership—even when pressured to adopt authoritarian tactics—pays off in alignment, creativity, and resilience.Let's Stay in Touch:Subscribe/Follow: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Change Coaches YouTube Channel to catch every episode.Leave a Review or Share: If this episode resonated, leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and share it with a colleague or friend.Explore More: Visit LeadingBelowTheSurface.com and ChangeCoaches.io for book updates, keynotes, workshops, and coaching.Book Talks: Want a Leading Below the Surface book talk for your team? Email [email protected] to schedule—limited slots each month.Connect with LaTonya: LinkedIn — share your thoughts or let her know how relational leadership is showing up in your world.Next Episode Preview: Don’t miss next week’s conversation on Everyday Mental Health Practices for Leadership and Life—practical ways leaders can support wellness in a world that feels broken.

In today’s fast-changing world, surface-level leadership won’t cut it anymore. In this solo episode, LaTonya Wilkins (award-winning executive coach and bestselling author of Leading Below the Surface) walks you through 10 concrete ways organizations benefit when they embrace Below the Surface Leadership.From stronger leadership alignment and inclusive decision-making to navigating bias, building real belonging, and creating a shared language for change—even in the age of AI—you’ll hear practical ways to shift culture and performance.LaTonya also shares an update on the Second Edition of Leading Below the Surface (out this fall!) and how you can bring these practices into your teams and organizations.You’ll learn:10 tangible benefits of Below the Surface LeadershipPractical ways to apply P2B (Person-to-Belonging) listeningWhy authenticity and psychological safety are more than trendsHow to build a shared language for change in uncertain timesResources:LeadingBelowTheSurface.com — book updates & launch infoChange Coaches — coaching, workshops, and keynotesLaTonya’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins

Psychological safety has become one of the most popular leadership buzzwords in recent years. But is it enough on its own?Inspired by Amy Edmondson’s recent Harvard Business Review article, executive coach and author LaTonya Wilkins explores the six most common misconceptions about psychological safety — and what leaders can do to move beyond them.LaTonya also shares exciting news about the second edition of her award-winning book Leading Below the Surface, coming this fall, and gives three practical tips for keeping psychological safety alive in your organization.Why psychological safety isn’t about being “nice” or avoiding accountabilityThe difference between safety and job securityHow safety drives performance and collaboration, not the oppositeWhy everyone — not just senior leaders — can create safety🌟 What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy psychological safety isn’t about being “nice” or avoiding accountabilityThe difference between safety and job securityHow safety drives performance and collaboration, not the oppositeWhy everyone — not just senior leaders — can create safetyThree practical ways to make psychological safety last🔗 Resources & LinksOfficial Podcast Hub: leadingbelowthesurface.comHBR Article: What People Get Wrong About Psychological Safety by Amy C. Edmondson & Michaela J. KerrisseyLaTonya’s Article: The Relationship Between Psychological Safety and AccountabilityChange Coaches on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/change-coachesLaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkinsCoaching Below the Surface Program: changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/

In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with sales strategist Kelly Hoppesch to unpack the art of selling yourself without feeling fake, pushy, or “salesy.” Whether you’re a CEO, a coach, or simply navigating your career, sales is a skill we all need, even if we don’t think of ourselves as salespeople.Kelly shares her insights on empathy in sales, how to build authentic influence, and why selling is really about connection and clarity, not scripts and pressure. You’ll walk away with actionable ways to position yourself, your ideas, and your value; all in a way that feels natural and aligned.Guest Bio:Kelly Hoppesch is a seasoned sales strategist, specializing in the HR Tech space. She’s held revenue leadership roles at powerhouse brands like LinkedIn, CareerBuilder, and Glassdoor, but her true passion lies in the messy, high-stakes world of startups. In 2021, she founded KH LLC, a consulting firm built to help tech founders unlock revenue and scale smarter, faster, and with purpose.Kelly believes revenue problems aren’t just about numbers — they’re rooted in people, operations, and execution. Through her work, she helps founders uncover the real heartbeat of their business, rewiring what’s broken so they can move forward with clarity and confidence.Stay in Touch with Change Coaches:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches NewsletterConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this solo episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins explores one of the most overlooked leadership superpowers: deep, intentional listening. In a world full of fear, anxiety, and change, most leaders are struggling to hear—and be heard.Drawing from a powerful real-life coaching session, LaTonya introduces two frameworks that will help you lead with empathy and clarity:• P2P (Person-to-Person) Listening• P2B (Person-to-Belonging) ListeningWhether you’re leading a team, navigating personal growth, or building trust, this episode will help you tune in, reflect, and create deeper human connection.What You’ll Learn:Why listening is harder—and more essential—than everWhat fear has to do with our inability to listenThe difference between P2P and P2B listeningHow to listen with multiple sensesReal tactics to become a better listener todayA journal prompt to help you reflect and grow🔗 Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface:https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/📲 Connect on LinkedIn:Change Coaches: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coachesLaTonya Wilkins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/

Have you ever wondered why you job hop, overfunction on teams, or struggle with work relationships? The answer might lie below the surface—in your attachment style.In this solo episode, LaTonya Wilkins, award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface, breaks down the four attachment styles (anxious, avoidant, disorganized, and secure) and how they show up at work, in leadership, and in love.You’ll walk away with:A quick self-diagnosis guide to help you identify your styleInsights on how each style impacts your work relationships and leadershipCoaching tips tailored to each style—no psychology degree requiredA powerful reminder that self-awareness is the gateway to becoming a better leaderWhether you’re leading teams, navigating workplace tension, or just trying to understand yourself better, this episode offers a grounded, human-centered framework to help you lead and live more authentically.🎧 Mentioned in this episode:Ep. 47 – The Leadership Echo: How Childhood Trauma Affects the Way You Lead ft. Blythe Landryhttps://open.spotify.com/episode/3GW4CVfAwZO8w4KgXwkaEI🔗 Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface: https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/🔗 Follow LaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/🔗 Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coaches

In this episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast, host LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Mel Milloway—servant leader, learning experience designer, and Co-Founder of This Side Up—to explore how AI and emerging learning technologies are reshaping leadership, learning, and performance.Mel shares how leaders and learning professionals can stay ahead of the curve by upskilling with digital tools, human-centered design, and experimentation. They discuss practical ways to think differently about learning tech, the importance of lifelong curiosity, and how the role of learning teams is shifting in real time.Whether you’re in L&D, leading teams, or just curious about how AI is reshaping work, this conversation will help you reimagine what it means to lead and learn today.Guest Bio:Mel Milloway is a people leader and learning experience designer with over 14 years in corporate learning. She’s led high-impact programs at Amazon and Miro, and champions innovative approaches including xAPI, UX/UI, and servant leadership. Mel publishes a newsletter on LinkedIn called This Side Up, where she shares videos, frameworks, and practices from the frontlines of modern learning.📍 Learn more about Mel:https://melmilloway.github.io/abouthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/melmilloway/🙏🏾 Please share this episode if it resonates with you, or if you know someone who’s navigating these shifts in learning and leadership. 🔗 Stay connected:Change Coaches: https://www.changecoaches.ioChange Coaches on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/change-coachesLaTonya Wilkins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/Leading Below the Surface: https://www.leadingbelowthesurface.comCoaching Below the Surface: https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/

Episode Summary:Dive into the science and soul of leadership in this inspiring episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast! Host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes Megan Dittman, Co-Founder of Front Goose Wellbeing®, to explore what it really means to lead with wellbeing—and why this summer is the perfect time to reset.Megan brings over 20 years of corporate HR experience and a deep foundation in holistic wellness to this powerful conversation. Together, she and LaTonya explore the burnout epidemic, the shortcomings of traditional leadership models, and how the most resilient leaders today are turning inward.Discover how Megan’s RISE model (Response, Intention, Service & Evolution®) provides a roadmap for thriving in today’s unpredictable world, and why companies that prioritize human-centered leadership will rise to the top.🔑 Key Insights:Traditional management models are no longer sustainable for performance or wellbeingMegan’s RISE model reframes leadership through a lens of self-awareness and intentionCorporate cultures that ignore wellbeing are at a disadvantage in innovation and retentionLeaders must learn to care for themselves to lead others authenticallyThis is the critical moment for organizations to evolve—or risk being left behindIf you’re craving a more grounded, human approach to leadership and success, this conversation will resonate deeply.👉🏾Don’t forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the NOTIFICATION BELL to catch new episodes that push leadership thinking forward.More About MeganMEGAN DITTMAN, is Co-founder of Front Goose Wellbeing®; a leadership development organization that translates practices of holistic wellbeing into performance and human-centric leadership skills necessary for today’s modern leader.  With over 20 years of Corporate HR experience in her toolbelt before starting Front Goose, Megan learned first-hand what is needed for corporations to not only survive, but to thrive. Megan personally realized that ‘you cannot pour from an empty cup.’ The consequences of old-school management tactics, where leaders squeeze as much as possible from team members with no regard to their wellbeing and its impact on personal performance is clear. Creativity is severely limited, short-term thinking becomes the norm, and people revert to survival instincts damaging effective teamwork. Megan knows there is a better way and believes that today’s work environments are on the cusp of extremely positive change. She believes we are at a critical juncture where strong companies will be separated from the weak, and companies that lead with a human-centric focus will grow & prosper. Companies that cultivate the holistic wellbeing of their workforce will RISE to the top and lead with RISE - Response, Intention, Service & Evolution ®. Megan holds a Master of Industrial Labor Relations from Cornell University, and a BBA in Accounting from the University of Notre Dame. She spent four years in public accounting before pivoting to a 20-year career in corporate human resources. She is a certified Brain-Based Coach from the Neuroleadership Institute, a Certified Health & Wellbeing Coach and Primordial Sound Meditation Instructor from the Chopra Institute and holds the esteemed board certification from the AMA & NBHWC in health and wellness coaching (NBC-HWC). In addition, she is a 200-hour certified yoga teacher and is working towards her 500-hour certification. An avid reader, and lifelong learner, Megan continues to grow in her own wellbeing and leadership practices daily. All these experiences have shaped her passions and expertise in Talent Development, Corporate HR Strategy, Wellbeing, and Leadership. Overall Front Goose Offerings:Front Goose Wellbeing | Team & Executive Leadership DevelopmentUpcoming Meditation Retreat in Tucson, AZ Nov 6-9, 2025 Meditation

In this enlightening dialogue, LaTonya and Austin explore how outdated societal expectations have impacted men’s well-being, relationships, and leadership effectiveness. Austin shares his journey from corporate consulting to coaching men of color and explains why spaces like The Man Cave are essential today. The conversation digs into topics like emotional regulation, stonewalling, unconscious beliefs around money and sex, and how redefining masculinity can transform not just men’s lives but our broader communities.All people, regardless of gender, possess both masculine and feminine energy; understanding this dynamic is key to leadership and well-being.Emotional suppression—especially among Black men—has deep roots and real consequences in leadership and relationships.“Stonewalling” is a common emotional response for men, often misunderstood; awareness and breathwork can create breakthroughs.Men often link their self-worth to money, success, and sex—but these are societal stories that must be unlearned.The Man Cave provides a powerful community for men of color to be vulnerable, seen, and emotionally accountable.If you're passionate about coaching across gender and race, or curious about how masculinity is evolving in today's world, this conversation goes far beneath the surface.Key Insights:👉 Don’t forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and tap the NOTIFICATION BELL for more episodes that challenge outdated leadership norms.Connect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ (changecoaches.io)Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface (https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/)Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/)Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/82310593)For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the Surface (leadingbelowthesurface.com)And, if you loved this episode, please rate and share it!More About AustinMy name is Richard Austin Walker and I am a man who shows the fuck up. I lead with truth and love. I empower responsibility and possibility.My practice is a reflection of my commitment to self-actualization and serving my mission in rasing the standard of masculinity for men of color. I support BIPOC men to own their truth, own the impact of their leadership, and choose the responsibility of owning all aspects of their lived experiences. I offer 1:1 coaching, men's groups, a variety of leadership development workshops, and partner with select organizations to empower a culture of leadership. I value building relationships with other men who embody their truth and choose to be leaders. I host a weekly men's call for BIPOC leaders to be responsible for how they show up in the world. Each week we explore a monthly theme that is relevant for men of color. The Man Cave is a space for brotherhood, vulnerability, and authentic expression in service to being powerful models of grounded, open-hearted masculine leaders. If you want to drop into our conversation, please fill out our applicationInterested in a BIPOC men's community? Complete The Man Cave Interest form to engage. We meet Monday's at 12 PM ET and Thursday's at 6 PM ET. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScRTGX85d500k_3uJQJNqWrWw2bOsvQHaC6ZRU6y34HalaB2w/viewform BIPOC men's retreat this Fall, October 23 - 26, 2025 in James Creek, PA. Learn more at the Leadership Intensive Retreat webpage. https://www.austinwalkercoaching.com/new-leadership-intensive-retreat #RedefiningMasculinity #CoachingMenOfColor#InclusiveLeadership #EmotionalIntelligence #LeadingBelowTheSurface

Dive into the challenging realities of inclusive leadership in this powerful episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast! Host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes psychologist and author Nadia Nagamootoo to discuss her groundbreaking book "Beyond Discomfort: Why Inclusive Leadership is so Hard.Episode Summary:In this thought-provoking conversation, LaTonya and Nadia explore why inclusion goes far beyond traditional DEI frameworks and why abandoning inclusivity poses significant risks to organizations and society. They discuss how inclusive leadership impacts innovation, mental health, and our ability to address global challenges, revealing the psychological barriers that make inclusion difficult but even more necessary in today's world.Key Insights:Inclusive leadership extends beyond corporate DEI initiatives to impact innovation, mental health, and our approach to global challenges Power dynamics create resistance to inclusive practices, making change difficult but essential. The psychological discomfort of inclusive leadership is something to embrace rather than avoid. Receptiveness to learning about ourselves and others is fundamental to inclusive leadership.Short-term thinking prevents us from seeing the long-term benefits of inclusive practicesIf you're concerned about recent backlash against inclusion initiatives or looking for deeper perspectives on creating truly inclusive environments, this episode offers valuable insights that go below the surface of conventional DEI discussions.👉 Don't forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the NOTIFICATION BELL to stay updated on new episodes exploring leadership that challenges the status quo!More About NadiaNADIA NAGAMOOTOO (she/her) is the founder and CEO of Avenir.  She’s a Chartered Psychologist, a MBA and accredited coach with 20 years’ experience in the field of leadership development, culture change and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion.  She’s worked globally to provoke powerful conversations at all organizational levels and develop sustainable inclusive leadership practises.  She is host of the popular podcast show, Why Care?, where she delves deeply into the complex and uncomfortable world of DEI.  Her bestselling book, Beyond Discomfort: Why inclusive leadership is so hard (and what you can do about it) was published in March 2024 and has been shortlisted for the Business Book of the Year Awards 2025. www.avenirconsultingservices.com – for information about what Nadia’s company doeswww.nadianagamootoo.com – for information on the podcast show, book and speakingwww.beyond-discomfort.com – for free resources and tools related to the bookConnect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ (changecoaches.io)Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface (https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/)Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/)Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/82310593)For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the Surface (leadingbelowthesurface.com)And, if you loved this episode, please rate and share it!#InclusiveLeadership #LeadingBelowTheSurface #DEI #Leadership #HardTruths #PowerDynamics #WorkplaceCulture #Innovation #MentalHealth #Inclusivity

In this episode, we feature a special webinar recording where LaTonya Wilkins, award-winning executive coach and author, introduces Coaching Below the Surface, an ICF-approved coach training program launching in July 2025. This initiative outlines a fresh approach to coaching, emphasizing connection across differences and creating psychological safety in coaching relationships.In Episode 49, we dive into a comprehensive introduction of Coaching Below the Surface, a groundbreaking ICF-approved coach training program designed to help coaches navigate the complexities of our VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, Ambiguous) world. LaTonya explores how this program prepares coaches to work effectively across differences, focusing on the importance of psychological safety for both coaches and clients. The presentation also introduces the REAL leadership model (Relatable, Equitable, Aware, and Loyal) and how this unique framework addresses the diverse needs of today's coaching landscape.Key Insights:Connecting Across Differences: The program highlights the need for coaches to connect with clients across diverse perspectives and challenges, addressing the complexity of the VUCA world.Psychological Safety: Coaches must create "dual psychological safety"—ensuring safety for both themselves and their clients—to foster authentic, effective coaching interactions.KPE (Knowledge, Perspectives, and Experiences): The program introduces KPE as the foundation for understanding the unique differences that coaches and clients bring to the relationship.The REAL Model: This coaching approach is rooted in the REAL model, which stands for Relatable, Equitable, Aware, and Loyal, helping coaches navigate diverse client needs.Understanding Gen Z: Gen Z’s unique challenges are highlighted as a key focus, positioning them as one of the top leadership issues in today’s coaching landscape.Cohort-Based Learning: Participants will engage in a cohort-based environment, fostering psychological safety, belonging, and "coaching joy."Outcomes for Coaches: By joining the program, participants can expect tangible outcomes: more clients, improved ratings, and an overall improvement in their coaching practice.The Importance of Coaching Now: The program underscores that this is a pivotal time for coaches to make a significant impact in today’s complex workplace.To learn more about the Coaching Below the Surface program, click here.0:00 - Introduction and Welcome to the Webinar2:15 - Overview of Leading Below the Surface Philosophy4:30 - Understanding the VUCA World (Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, Ambiguity)7:45 - Defining Wicked Problems in Today's Leadership Landscape10:20 - How Traditional Coaching Falls Short in Complex Environments13:40 - Introduction to Coaching Below the Surface Framework16:55 - Key Preparation Strategies for Effective Coaching20:10 - The Power of Listening Beyond Words23:35 - Navigating Difficult Conversations with Empathy27:50 - Practical Coaching Tools for VUCA Environments32:15 - Case Studies: Successful Below the Surface Coaching36:40 - Q&A Session with Webinar Participants41:05 - Information About the ICF-Accredited Coach Training Program44:30 - Next Steps and How to Connect Further47:15 - Closing Remarks and Thank YouConnect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ (changecoaches.io)Learn more about Coaching Below the Surface (https://changecoaches.io/coaching-below-the-surface/)Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/)Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/82310593)For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the Surface (leadingbelowthesurface.com)And, if you loved this episode, please rate and share it!

In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins speaks with communications expert Debra Roberts about how her relationship with social media has evolved. Discover Debra's journey from being a private person to embracing social platforms as essential tools for her business growth, and learn valuable insights for navigating your own online presence.What You'll Learn:​How to transition from privacy-focused to strategic social media use​Balancing personal boundaries with professional visibility online​The importance of support systems when building an online presence​Practical ways to leverage social media for business growth​Tips for authentic communication in digital spacesMore about Debra:Debra Roberts, LCSW, is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, business consultant, and trauma-trained clinician with over 30 years of experience working in all settings. She is also an author, an Inc.com columnist, public speaker, and developer of the Relationship Protocol®—a practical and easy to follow communication model that transforms how we interact and work together. It’s at the core of The Communication Protocol®, an 8-lesson online professional development program for organizations that delivers rapid, positive workplace impact.Debra also created My Communication Tools®, a new, compact and self-paced online program designed to improve personal communication, empowering people to have more personal agency, strengthen relationships, and talk about their differences. Connect with Debra on LinkedIn or Instagram.Connect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the SurfaceAnd, if you loved this episode, please rate and share it!

Is your mindset feeling off, but you don't really know why? In this episode, LaTonya Wilkins shares 8 actionable ways to upgrade your leadership mindset and thrive in today's rapidly changing world. She dives into the importance of self-awareness and emotional intelligence, exploring how recognizing triggers and managing emotions can guide decisions and improve relationships.LaTonya also discusses the significance of cultivating a growth mindset and building resilience in the face of uncertainty. By sharing personal stories and practical strategies, she aims to help listeners adapt to change and lead with calm and clarity. Throughout the episode, she emphasizes the importance of trusting oneself and making confident decisions while fostering a sense of purpose and committing to long-term success.Join LaTonya as she navigates the complexities of leadership in today's times. Whetheryou are looking to enhance your well-being or improve your leadership skills, this episode is packed with insights that can transform their mindset. For more resources, visit changecoaches.io or email [email protected] of Links:Resources from Today’s EpisodeLearn more about Our ICF-Approved Coach and Leadership Training Program: https://changecoaches.io/2025-coaching-below-the-surface/Connect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ (changecoaches.io)Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/latonyawilkins/)Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/82310593)For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the Surface (leadingbelowthesurface.com)And, if you loved this episode, please rate and share it!

In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins speaks with trauma coach Blythe Landry about how trauma affects leadership. Discover how unresolved trauma can lead to authoritarian or avoidant leadership styles and what you can do to create a more supportive and effective work environment.What You'll Learn:How trauma impacts leadership stylesThe difference between avoidant and authoritarian leadershipStrategies for leaders to address their own traumaHow to create a psychologically safe workplaceThe link between childhood trauma, burnout, and imposter syndromeConnect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the SurfaceConnect with Blythe LandryAnd, if you loved this episode, please rate and share it!

Join me, LaTonya Wilkins, on the Leading Below the Surface podcast as I chat with Sabrina Creighton, a Change Coaches Coach partner, about navigating unexpected life changes, including divorce and personal growth. In this episode, we delve into the challenges of dealing with grief, managing transitions, and the importance of community support. We share personal stories, tools, and resources to help you thrive and find resilience, no matter what life throws your way.In this episode, Sabrina and I discuss: Dealing with loss and grief Working through childhood traumas The impact of divorce on personal identity The importance of community and support systems Redesignating your life after major shifts Empathizing with yourself and practicing self-care Pruning relationships and focusing on your rootsTimestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Change Coaches 00:00:48 - Episode introduction: Unexpected Life Changes 00:01:43 - Welcoming Sabrina Creighton 00:02:47 - Sabrina's Journal Company and living her best life 00:04:48 - Internal vs. External storms 00:06:42 - Building a protective force field 00:10:32 - Stories of life shifts 00:11:05 - Sabrina's experience with her mother's cancer and passing 00:15:27 - Sharing experiences with loss 00:20:16 - Working through childhood traumas 00:22:29 - Mothers' legacies 00:27:59 - Doors opening 00:29:46 - Unexpected divorce 00:34:30 - Losing yourself in relationships 00:38:06 - Unexpected separations/divorces 00:38:57 - Resources: Necessary Endings 00:41:34 - The tree analogy 00:44:17 - The importance of community 00:44:46 - Therapy and life design 00:50:55 - Final thoughts and sharing the podcastResources Mentioned: Book: Necessary Endings by Henry Cloud Book: Conscious Uncoupling by Katherine Woodward Thomas Book: Let Them by Mel RobbinsConnect with Sabrina: Coaching Company: Sabrina Creighton LLC Pen & Purpose Journal https://penandpurposejournalco.com/ Pen & Purpose LinkedIn  Pen & Purpose Instagram Connect with LaTonya and Change Coaches: Website: Changecoaches.io Email: [email protected] Follow LaTonya on⁠LinkedIn⁠  Follow Change Coaches on⁠LinkedIn⁠  For More on the Book⁠Leading Below the SurfaceIf you found this episode helpful, please share it with others and rate us on your favorite podcast app! Thank you for listening!

In this episode, LaTonya Wilkins explores the critical role of resilient leadership in navigating today’s complex workplace. Drawing from personal experiences and research, she shares actionable strategies for cultivating resilience to tackle challenges effectively. Listeners will gain insights into the definition of resilience, its significance in enhancing emotional intelligence and relationships, and the various factors that influence resilience, such as access to resources and community support.Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about⁠⁠ ⁠Change Coaches⁠⁠⁠ Sign Up for the⁠Change Coaches Community Newsletter⁠Watch the Podcast on⁠YouTube⁠Follow LaTonya on⁠⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ Follow Change Coaches on⁠⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ For More on the Book⁠⁠ ⁠Leading Below the Surface⁠

In this enlightening podcast episode, LaTonya Wilkins dives into the critical theme ofbuilding relationships in contemporary society, especially in light of the growing issue of social isolation. LaTonya explores the importance of fostering connections, particularly for individuals in midlife or those transitioning out of college. With recent research highlighting loneliness as an epidemic, especially among younger generations like Gen Z, LaTonya aims to provide actionable strategies for expanding social circles and improving interpersonal skills.00:00:01 - Introduction to Change Coaches00:01:06 - Episode Focus: Building Relationships in Today's Society00:01:39 - Motivation Behind the Episode: Social Isolation and Recent Read00:02:33 - Context of Current Events and Their Impact on Relationships00:03:13 - Discussion on Social Isolation and Loneliness Epidemic00:05:32 - Facts on the Decline of Social Interactions00:08:59 - Importance of Loose Ties and Their Decline00:10:43 - Loss of Opportunities for Practicing Social Skills00:12:09 - Impact of Social Isolation on Mental Health00:13:46 - Finding Your Community: Introduction00:14:15 - Steps to Connect with Others00:19:13 - Organizational Benefits of Connection00:20:29 - Conclusion and Next Episode PreviewConnect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about⁠ ⁠Change Coaches⁠⁠ Sign Up for theChange Coaches Community NewsletterWatch the Podcast onYouTubeFollow LaTonya on⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ Follow Change Coaches on⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ For More on the Book⁠ ⁠Leading Below the Surface

Join LaTonya Wilkins in this enlightening episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast as she explores the crucial role of caregiving in today's society. Featuring expert insights from Kate Washington, author of "Already Toast: Caregiving and Burnout in America," this discussion delves into the evolving terminology surrounding caregiving, the emotional and practical challenges caregivers face, and the importance of support systems in the workplace. Discover innovative strategies for fostering a supportive workplace culture, recognizing diverse family structures, and advocating for inclusive caregiving policies. Whether you're a caregiver or an employer, this episode provides valuable insights to enhance well-being and promote resilience in caregiving roles. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that champions the power of community and connection in caregiving!Resources from Today’s EpisodeYou can learn more about Kate: https://www.kawashington.com/index.htmlLearn more about the Change Coaches Coaching Sprint⁠ by emailing ⁠[email protected]⁠-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches NewsletterConnect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the Surface

In this solo episode, host LaTonya Wilkins shares powerful insights and actionable self-coaching prompts to help you unlock personal growth, embrace authenticity, and elevate your mental and emotional well-being. Discover what it truly takes to achieve a breakthrough, how to recognize its impact, and how to set meaningful goals and intentions without compromising your mental health. LaTonya’s practical guidance will inspire you to redefine success on your own terms and pave the way for transformative growth. Grab a pen and paper—you won’t want to miss these insights.Resources from Today’s EpisodeLearn more about the Change Coaches Coaching Sprint⁠ here⁠ or email ⁠[email protected]⁠Connect with us: Email us at ⁠[email protected]⁠Learn more about ⁠Change Coaches⁠ Follow LaTonya on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ Follow Change Coaches on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ For More on the Book ⁠Leading Below the SurfaceStudy mentioned in today’s episode.

In this episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast, host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes somatic coach Jonathan Gutierrez to explore the transformative power of somatics in personal and professional development. Together, they discuss how body awareness can enhance emotional intelligence, improve interpersonal relationships, and foster healthier communities. Jonathan shares valuable insights on interoception, visualization techniques, and the importance of self-reflection in combating negativity bias. Tune in to learn practical strategies for integrating somatic practices into your coaching, leadership, and everyday life to navigate the challenges of today's changing workplace.Jonathan Faxas Gutierrez (he/him) is a somatic life coach, meditator, and flow enthusiast dedicated to helping individuals rediscover vibrancy and joy in their lives. Trained at the Mindfulness Coaching School, Jonathan’s journey into the helping field began over seven years ago in a transformative men’s group that inspired him to create and lead his own, fostering spaces for vulnerability and connection. With a focus on inclusivity, Jonathan’s practice supports clients across the gender and queer spectrum, offering guidance for those feeling stuck, disconnected, or seeking growth in mindfulness and meditation. Known for his deep presence, compassion, and curiosity, Jonathan creates a supportive environment for clarity, growth, and ease.Resources from Today’s EpisodeYou can learn more about Jonathan at his website: https://www.jfgcoaching.co/Learn more about the Change Coaches Coaching Sprint here or email [email protected] with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this enlightening episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast, host LaTonya Wilkins chats with Maha Abouelenein, bestselling author of Seven Rules of Self-Reliance," as they explore the core principles of self-reliant leadership and how investing in oneself can empower personal and professional growth. Discover actionable strategies for creating value for others, the significance of treating your reputation as currency, and the importance of fostering meaningful connections through a “service-oriented” networking approach. Tune in to learn why self-reliant leadership isn’t selfish but a powerful way to enhance your contributions in both your personal and professional life!Topics explored include: Reputation Management, Career Development, Building Meaningful Connections, Building Meaningful Connections, Book Launches

In this episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast, host LaTonya Wilkins engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Ryan Mayer, a certified ADHD coach and advocate for neurodiversity. Together, they explore the importance of understanding neurodiversity and its implications in the workplace. Ryan shares his personal experiences with ADHD and how it has shaped his mission to create inclusive environments for neurodivergent individuals. Listeners will gain insights into effective strategies for accommodating diverse cognitive perspectives, debunk common myths surrounding ADHD, and learn the significance of fostering open dialogues in organizational settings. This episode is a must-listen for leaders and individuals seeking to enhance inclusivity and productivity within their teams.Guest BioRyan Mayer, a certified ADHD Coach (MBA, ACC, DOBE), is dedicated to empowering adults with ADHD to achieve their full potential. Based in Cleveland, OH, he leverages personal experience and evidence-based techniques to develop tailored strategies for his clients. Specializing in corporate education and training, Coach Ryan aims to revolutionize workplace culture by advocating for neuroinclusion. Through his Conquer Your ADHDTM System, he helps business leaders and busy professionals thrive. Ryan hosts the More than ADHDTM podcast and his work has been featured in Employee Benefit News, Forbes, ADHD Online, and Fast Company. Outside of coaching, he enjoys basketball and non-fiction audiobooks. Ryan lives with his wifeAndrea and their three children.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches Newsletter-Leading Below the Surface LinkedIn Newsletter-Follow Coach Ryan on YouTube-Follow Coach Ryan on LinkedInConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this bonus episode, LaTonya Wilkins shares a few key insights about how to navigate the U.S. Election results as a leader. She focuses on the importance of self-care, resilience, effective communication, taking care of others, and fostering a culture of belonging within teams.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches Newsletter-Leading Below the Surface LinkedIn NewsletterConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

Join LaTonya Wilkins in this engaging episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast as she welcomes improv expert Bob Kulhan. With a rich background in comedy and professional development, Bob shares his insights on the transformative power of improvisation in the workplace. Discover how the principles of improv, such as "Yes, and," can foster psychological safety, enhance team collaboration, and encourage innovative thinking. Whether you're a leader or a team member, you'll gain practical tools and exercises to create a more connected and dynamic work environment. Tune in to learn how to embrace change through the art of improv and enhance your workplace interactions.Guest BioBob Kulhan is a professor at the Duke University Fuqua School of Business, an elite improv and sketch comedian, and the Founder and CEO of Business Improv® – a 25-yr-old consultancy linking improvisation to business through behavioral sciences and ROI for organizations and businesses. Bob’s clients include a who’s who of businesses (from pharma to manufacturing to aerospace), universities, organizations, and government institutions.  He has also worked extensively with entrepreneurs and solopreneurs, as well as small and medium size businesses.Specifically for coaches, Kulhan has created original individual growth initiatives for MBAs, new hires, high potentials, executive development, and senior leaders. Kulhan has created small, medium, and large team coaching strategies for organizations that range from small businesses to startups, creatives to architects, military to government, hotel and biopharma leadership teams to many more. In addition, Kulhan has also been coaching team improv for performance ensembles since 1995 (Chicago & New York). Since January 2021, Bob has been coaching a US Senator, as well. Kulhan is a master improviser who has spent the last 30 years performing improv comedy, and he the best-selling author of ‘GETTING TO YES AND: The Art of Business Improv’, Stanford University Press.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches NewsletterBob Kulhan Improv Course (https://businessimprov.com/services/online-course/)Connect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the SurfaceConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

Join host LaTonya Wilkins in the Leading Below the Surface podcast as she explores the art of 'meandering in the muck'—a transformative approach to navigating personal trauma and adversity in today's ever-changing workplace. With insights drawn from her experience as a coach and author of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya delves into the complexities of vulnerability, courage, and personal growth while offering practical strategies to embrace uncertainty and foster resilience. Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches NewsletterConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this insightful episode of the The Leading Below the Surface Podcast, host LaTonya Wilkins chats with Loren Sanders, author of Empathy is Not a Weakness. Loren shares about her transformative work with empathy as well as providing tips and tricks as you approach conference season; how to strategize, maximize learnings, and the value of building your network. Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches Newsletter-Connect with Loren on LinkedIn-Loren's WebsiteConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this episode, host LaTonya Wilkins takes a dive deep into the transformative concept of joy with Dr. Pamela Larde! Dr. Pamela Larde is a leading expert on the psychology of joy. She has dedicated her career to exploring the nuances of joy, contrasting it with happiness, and understanding its significance across diverse populations. Together, LaTonya and Dr. Larde explore the profound differences between joy and happiness, uncovering how joy serves as a vital state of being that transcends external circumstances.Dr. Larde shares powerful anecdotes from her research, including the resilience of military veterans and college students in their pursuit of joy. The emergence of the #BlackJoy movement during the 2020 protests serves as a poignant example of how joy can flourish even in difficult times. Dr. Larde's innovative concept of joy resilience highlights the ability to maintain joy as a survival strategy, making her insights invaluable for anyone looking to enhance their well-being.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches Newsletter-Dr. Pamela Larde LinkedIn-Get the "Joyfully Single" book! -Dr. Pamela Larde's InstagramConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this episode, host LaTonya WilkinsI dives into the complexities of navigating workplace tensions that arise during the U.S. elections. She shares insights on the importance of communication, understanding diverse perspectives, and creating a supportive environment for all employees. Drawing from personal experiences during a recent trip to Europe, LaTonya reflects on historical divisions and the current political climate, equipping leaders with practical coaching prompts to address tensions and promote well-being. In this episode you will take away three coaching prompts that you can use to navigate the upcoming election.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Change Coaches NewsletterConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

Host, LaTonya Wilkins dives into the enduring relevance of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in the workplace, exploring how recent political events and workplace dynamics have shaped DEI initiatives. She discusses the impact of generational diversity, the importance of equitable practices, and the necessity of reframing DEI discussions to foster understanding and engagement among employees. DEI is not merely a trend; it is a critical component of organizational culture and effectiveness.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this solo episode, host LaTonya Wilkins celebrates the one year anniversary of The Leading Below the Surface Podcast and showcases the top three episodes from this last year. LaTonya then dives into the updates on the State of DEI and what has shifted. Find out what the new trends are and how to incorporate them into your day-to-day. Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

Join host, LaTonya Wilkins, as she welcomes guest, Navid Nazemian, author of "Mastering Executive Transitions,". In this insightful episode, Navid shares strategies for overcoming the 40% failure rate of executive appointments within 18 months due to people, culture, and political challenges. Explore the importance of soft skills, the impact of biases like affinity bias, and the crucial role of structured organizational support, including aligning expectations, facilitating stakeholder meetings, and cultural familiarization.Tips from Today's Episode:-Prioritize soft skills and self-awareness to navigate people, culture, and politics challenges during transitions.-Implement structured organizational support, including aligning expectations, facilitating stakeholder meetings, and cultural familiarization.-Provide transition coaching and tie support to job levels to eliminate biases and ensure successful executive transitions.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-Navid’s LinkedIn-Navid's Book “Mastering Executive Transitions: The Definitive Guide”Connect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast, host LaTonya Wilkins interviews Kelly Campbell on the topic of "Healing to Lead." Kelly shares insights from her book, "Heal to Lead," discussing trauma, consciousness, and regenerative leadership. The conversation delves into personal healing journeys, the importance of radical responsibility, and the power of generative leadership. Kelly also touches on the concept of "The Great Remembering" and the significance of giving and receiving in the healing process.Join LaTonya and Kelly as they explore the transformative power of healing and its impact on leadership. Discover practical tips for those starting their healing journey and insights for those feeling stuck in their progress. Don't miss this enlightening discussion on finding connection, curiosity, and growth in the midst of personal and societal challenges.Tips from Today's Episode:-Start with self-awareness and seek out trauma integration modalities-Embrace vulnerability and lead with compassion-Foster curiosity and openness to new healing practicesResources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesBook: https://klcampbell.com/heal-to-lead-book/Website: https://klcampbell.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelly.l.campbellLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellylcampbell/Substack: https://kellylcampbell.substack.com/Leadership Quiz: https://klcampbell.com/leadership/Healing Resources: https://myhealingmenu.com Connect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this insightful discussion, host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes queer coach and speaker Tara Robertson as she shares her journey of embracing her identity as a mixed-race, queer woman. She highlights the power of intergenerational LGBTQ+ communities, the resilience born from adversity, and the importance of celebrating queer joy. Tara offers a fresh perspective on allyship, encouraging listeners to focus on "being" rather than checklists. The conversation provides actionable takeaways for living authentically and increasing joy in daily life.Tips from Today's Episode:-Reflect on moments when you felt truly authentic and joyful, and identify the essence of those experiences as your "superpowers."-During Pride Month, focus on "being" an ally through curiosity, advocacy, and openness, rather than simply following a list of actions.-Increase your authenticity and joy by 10% each day through small, intentional acts that align with your true self.Resources from today's episode:-Tara's LinkedIn-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this episode of The Leading Below the Surface Podcast, LaTonya Wilkins welcomes Rebecca Paradiso de Sayu. Rebecca is the founder of the Institute for Collective Well-being, a non-profit organization based in Madison, Wisconsin, focused on activating a sense of well-being within and among people in organizational settings. In our conversation, we explore how organizations can foster collective well-being through relational practices.Tips from Today's Episode:-Ask where people already see glimpses of well-being in the organization, and build on those moments.-When someone shuts down or becomes defensive, pause to reflect on what that might be telling you about inclusion and well-being.-Suspend the need to know exactly where you're going, and open to the creative process of collective well-being unfolding.Resources from today's episode:-Institute for Collective Wellbeing-Rebecca’s LinkedIn-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this candid episode, LaTonya Wilkins, founder of Change Coaches and author of Leading Below the Surface, shares her personal mental health journey and a three-step process to increase mental health in the workplace. Through vulnerable storytelling, she explores significant tramas she has faced in life, and describes how she navigated these experiences through mental health awareness, healing, and expansion. She also discusses how people can reflect on her experiences, encourage storytelling, and apply the three-step process to create more mental health in the workplace.Tips from Today's Episode:-Create Awareness: Create safe spaces for employees to share their personal stories and experiences related to mental health. This fosters empathy, awareness, and connectedness within the organization.-Establish Healing Circles: Implement structured or informal "healing circles" where employees can express their fears, concerns, or challenges. This can create a sense of community within your organization.-Foster Acceptance and Expansion: Embrace the idea of "expansion" or exploring possibilities for growth and personal development.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across Differences-How to Support Employees During Times of DistressConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

In this episode of The Leading Below the Surface Podcast, we're diving deep into the concept of psychological safety. Host, LaTonya Wilkins, is joined by an extraordinary guest, Elisa Glick. Dr. Elisa Glick is a DEIB practitioner and thought leader who is passionate about building cultures where everyone can thrive. An award-winning educator and author, Dr. Glick is the first openly gay faculty member specializing in queer studies to be tenured at the University of Missouri, where she is Associate Professor Emerita.Join us as Elisa Glick shares her insights on leveraging vulnerability, active listening, and boundary-setting to champion psychological safety and inclusion in any setting. Discover how to lead courageously and create spaces where difficult conversations can lead to meaningful change.Tips from Today's Episode:-Embrace vulnerability: Sharing personal stories and challenges can humanize leaders, making it easier for others to open up.-Listen actively: Prioritize understanding over responding, and approach conversations with the intent to learn.-Set clear boundaries: Establish and communicate the rules of engagement to ensure respectful and productive discussions.Resources from today's episode:-elisaglick.com-Elisa’s LinkedIn-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

LaTonya Wilkins, a renowned executive coach and the host of the Leading Below the Surface podcast, takes us on a deep-dive exploration of psychological safety in the workplace. With a rich background in fostering inclusive environments and her expertise as an executive coach, LaTonya shares invaluable insights on creating spaces where everyone feels safe to express themselves. In this solo episode, she focuses on the foundational aspects of psychological safety, emphasizing its critical role in facilitating open, honest, and productive conversations across differences.Tips from Today's Episode:-Understand what psychological safety and belonging truly mean and why they are critical for effective communication.-Assess personal and collective levels of psychological safety before engaging in potentially challenging conversations.-Learn and apply techniques to create a safe environment that encourages candid dialogue without fear of retribution or humiliation.-Develop a concrete action plan to approach conversations with intentionality, ensuring that all parties feel valued, heard, and respected.Resources from today's episode:-Change Coaches Guide to Create Psychological Safe Conversations Across DifferencesConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface

Host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes special guest, Rhodes Perry, a celebrated author and influential community builder to the podcast. Rhodes has made significant strides in fostering inclusive environments both in and out of the workplace. With a rich background that includes working in the White House and the Department of Justice, Rhodes has been featured in numerous publications for his groundbreaking work. His best-selling books, "Belonging at Work" and "Imagine Belonging," alongside his creation of the Belonging Circle, showcase his commitment to building communities where everyone feels they belong. In this episode of The Leading Below the Surface Podcast, we sit down with Rhodes to discuss the importance of visibility and inclusion for transgender individuals in the workplace and beyond.Tips from Today's Episode:-Encourage Exposure and Education: Increase your exposure to transgender communities and educate yourself and your team on transgender experiences and challenges. Utilize resources like the 2022 US Trans Survey to dispel myths and understand the realities of transgender lives.-Challenge Misinformation: Actively challenge misinformation when you encounter it. Simple questions like "Where did you hear that?" can prompt reflection and encourage more accurate understanding and discussions.-Reflect on Personal Gender Experiences: Encourage your team to reflect on their own experiences with gender and how societal expectations have impacted them. This can foster empathy and a deeper understanding of the need for gender inclusivity and expression freedom.Resources from today's episode:-Link 2022 US Trans Survey-Link to "Belonging at Work" the book-rhodesperry.comConnect with us: Email us at [email protected] more about Change Coaches Follow LaTonya on LinkedIn Follow Change Coaches on LinkedIn For More on the Book Leading Below the Surface