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The Vic and Kam Show

Two friends, Vic Johnson (sports dietitian) and Kam Harder (physical therapist and strength coach) let you into their world, as they share their experience coaching some of the best outdoor endurance athletes in the world. Learn about fueling and nutrition as well as strength and injury prevention to improve your training and performance. Whether you are a trail or ultra runner, cyclist, triathlete, or just someone who likes to move in the outdoors, you will benefit from tuning in and you might catch some fun banter along the way too.

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    Episode 20 - The Achilles Tendon Part 1 - Just a big ole spring on your heel

    Part 1 of Kam telling us why he doesn't wear zero drop shoes anymore (Vic still does). All about the achilles tendon and why it's probably hurtin' ya!Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with KamInterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Episode 19 - How to recover and get the most out of your training

    Kam and I talk recovery nutrition and recovery movement/other techniques for after your harder sessions and races!Buy a Runners for Public Lands shirt here!: ⁠https://buy.stripe.com/dRm00j6A53vo52L6J31ck1b⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with KamInterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Episode 18 - Will the real Dr. Harder please stand up?

    Buy a Runners for Public Lands shirt here!: https://buy.stripe.com/dRm00j6A53vo52L6J31ck1bGo here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with KamInterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Episode 17- Western States Recap + Our Gripes about Pros + Protein BEFORE a workout?

    Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with KamInterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    Episode 16 - Western States preview, Kam dominates Broken Arrow (again), carb ratios, and hot tub fun!

    Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with KamInterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 15 - Runner’s Knee can get hecked! + Don’t pay attention to your watch data, nitrates, and muscle fiber typology.

    This one’s a doozy…Kam goes deep on common knee issues in runners, what causes them, and how to prevent/get over them. We also answer some listener questions on topics YOU want to hear about like slow twitch and fast twitch muscles, beetroot and nitrates, Coros data telling you you’re slow, and even a question from Jim Walmsley on if he is overtraining or not (just kidding, but wouldn’t that be cool?!)Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with KamInterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 14 - How to Carb Load! + How to Deal with Running Burnout

    Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 13 - Q & A throw down including foam rolling, side stitches, gut repair and microbiome, and running trends we hate! (+ way more)

    Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 12 - Posterior Tib Pain (shin splints) deep dive & Vic's trail marathon recap

    Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 11 - Is dad strength even real? + Kam's race recap, Vic's race preview, and Nutrition for Injuries

    nterested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 10 - Planning Fueling for Kam's Race & Cocodona Talk

    Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 9 - Cocodona Preview, Training the Gut, and a Q&A Extravaganza!

    Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 8 - ChatGPT vs Vic and Kam

    Can AI write better strength and nutrition programing than we can? We get into a good discussion about man vs. machine, hydration flasks, and some good listener questions about heavy sweat rates, and if ghosts are real.Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 7 - Gorge Waterfalls Recap

    Gorge waterfalls 100k recap, plus pack recommendations, chafing and half-tights, babies crying on airplanes, and some other good stuff!Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:⁠https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900⁠Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 6 - Gorge Waterfalls 100k Preview + Fueling Plan

    We really hope the IRS doesn't listen to this one. A summary of Vic's fueling plan for Gorge 100k, some course preview, and some really fun banter.

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    Episode 5 - Why your running injuries keep coming back

    Breaking the injury cycle and the art of maintaining strength and health, fueling on a budget, fiber, running with arthritis, and race fueling strategy. We also talk more about our WSER sports nutrition and PT clinic! Link is in the show notes if you're interested. Thanks for listening!Interested in signing up for a sports nutrition and/or PT appointment slot at our WSER/ Trailcon clinic? Go to this link:https://go.ridgeathleticsaz.com/wserclinic-883900Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 4 - How much fluid and sodium do you actually need?

    How to figure out your fluid and sodium needs as it starts to heat up out there! Prevent cramps, prevent nausea and improve your performance.Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 3 - Building your performance team

    Big announcement for Western States week, building a performance team, and some great q & a - including making sodium choices, strength for performance vs injury prevention, and GI issues in your first ultra!Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:⁠Online self-paced course The Aid Station⁠⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠ with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:⁠1:1 Coaching consultation⁠ with Kam

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    Episode 2 - The structure of sports nutrition and strength training for the endurance athlete

    In this episode, we explain the essential framework for both sports nutrition and strength training for endurance athletes. Vic breaks down the two main umbrellas of sports nutrition: day-to-day nutrition (eating enough, macronutrients, and micronutrients) and performance nutrition (hydration, sodium, carbohydrate intake, and ergogenic aids like caffeine). Kam covers the fundamentals of strength training, clarifying what true strength work actually means (hint: you need to get close to failure at 4-6 reps), and explains how to structure a well-rounded program that includes strength, balance, plyometrics, and mobility work.We also discuss common mistakes athletes make, like underfueling during high-volume training, getting distracted by fancy supplements instead of nailing the basics, and doing endless reps without actually building strength. Plus, we debate the merits of tart cherry juice, cold plunging, and expensive supplements versus whole foods, and answer listener questions about fitting strength training into a busy schedule and the mysterious Pizzitribe.Go here if you are interested in dialing in your nutrition with Vic:Online self-paced course The Aid Station1:1 Coaching consultation with VicGo here if you are interested in improving your performance with strength training programming with Kam:1:1 Coaching consultation with Kam

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    Why are strength training and dialed sports nutrition important for endurance athletes?

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    Introduction

    Welcome to the Vic and Kam show! We are glad you are here so you can learn more about sports nutrition and strength training for endurance athletes.This episode is a good intro to who we are and who this podcast is for!

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Two friends, Vic Johnson (sports dietitian) and Kam Harder (physical therapist and strength coach) let you into their world, as they share their experience coaching some of the best outdoor endurance athletes in the world. Learn about fueling and nutrition as well as strength and injury prevention to improve your training and performance. Whether you are a trail or ultra runner, cyclist, triathlete, or just someone who likes to move in the outdoors, you will benefit from tuning in and you might catch some fun banter along the way too.

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Vic Johnson (sports RD, MPH), Kam Harder (PT, DPT, OCS)

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