The Yogi's Roadmap: Off the beaten path to breakthrough experiences

Summary: “You’re being introduced to a new way of exploring self and Self,” says Bhāvani Maki. In this conversation Bhāvani speaks about her perspective on the often misunderstood maxims of “yoga on the mat” and “yoga off that mat;” doing “real yoga” and doing “real life.” Bhāvani shares the teachings of her teachers on how we might work with fear/anxiety/stress in this world which is continually in flux. “Tune into yourself, if you are living yoga as a living science and art, it’s going to be more eclectic and innovative.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Bhāvani speaks about the essential role of a Yoga teacher and elucidates on practicing and teaching Yoga through the perspective of bio-tensegrity. She touches on the importance of Yoga teachers learning how to read bodies, which is one of the key elements she teaches in her Yoga trainings. “Come back to when movement had meaning,” Bhāvani tells us with humor and conviction. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

A full-length class from Bhāvani’s Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Group where she unpacks Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtra III.42. “Śhrotrākāśhayoḥ sambandha saṁyamāddivyaṁ śhrotram: Complete concentration on the interrelation between the atmosphere and the ear brings an ability to hear of a most high order.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Bhavani shares her wisdom from her own near death experience. She talks about how we might practice in our daily lives to begin to not be so afraid of death and dying. She goes on to give us a taste of somatic practices we can work with to unburden ourselves in real time. Bhavani gives us graceful and potent ways we might speak about death to each other and to children that is not scary but instead filled with wonder and appreciation for the beauty of living. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this conversation magic is pulled forth. Bhāvani speaks about the significance of origin and originality; the alchemy of living; The importance of not needing to prove our life to anyone anymore; and restoring the functionality of Yoga. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Do you want the Real Stuff when it comes to Yoga? Then this conversation is for you. Bhāvani shares about what is required to really access spirituality through embodiment; she implores us to ask deeper questions: “Are we interested in achievements, or are we interested in the field happening within us?” Bhāvani speaks to the tendency toward dissociation in spiritual disciplines, and how to move beyond performative spiritual practice. Bhāvani conveys the importance of learning to trust our own unique voice and how to listen to our inner wisdom. She concludes with sharing potent, practical tools for the embodiment of voice. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international Yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode, Bhāvani speaks about “practice,” that illusive concept made possible through true curiosity and community; what “practice” is, how we might approach it and what to remember when engaging with this life-long pursuit as being part of exploring new frontiers. She shares why we would want to go into the unconscious, that fertile soil where the gems reside; and when might be a good time to stop rehearsing the narrative of our wounds and let it be. Bhāvani gives insights into dreaming as a portal into the collective psyche. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Bhāvani speaks about the shift in her teaching into a more feeling-based, exploratory experience which leans into the sensory-awareness, which is the antidote for our current troubled times. She elucidates further for those of us who might have a hard time slowing down. Bhāvani speaks about building real community and about what it really means to leverage our yoga practice so that the things we learn in class actually take root in our daily lives. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author. Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School. Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization. Podcast Host: Shinay Tredeau. Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) and on Soundcloud.

Summary: Bhavani speaks about what is inspiring her right now in Yoga and in structural integration. She speaks about what is troubling her and about how she has come to a place of finally feeling freed up in her own body, practice and work. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author. Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School. Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization. Podcast Host: Shinay Tredeau. Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) and on Soundcloud.

Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtra IV.34 From the Yoga Sūtra Mentorship + Wisdom Series Summary: Bhāvani unpacks Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtra IV.34. This final Sūtra in the Kaivalya Pāda, fourth chapter, speaks to the aims of life and returning to the central organ of an unburdened heart. To tend to the fire and transmission through becoming deeply interested in what fills us with light. “This is a process of unearthing and returning to our wild and holy self.”    Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international Yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/   Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra   Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host: Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com   Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: This is our second conversation with Sherry Cassedy. Sherry shares about her book, “Marriage Unveiled: The Promise, Passion, and Pitfalls of Imperfectly Ever After. “The edge of transformation is not pretty or comfortable.” Sherry and Bhavani share their collective wisdom as practitioners and friends in this honest and juicy conversation about the “Layers of letting go, the tension of growing [up], and keeping our vision on the long haul for life and for yoga. “Lean into grace, hold the mystery, and let go into that mystery.” Show Notes: Special Guest Sherry Cassedy: marriage-unveiled.org Bhavani Maki: bhavanimaki.com Purchase your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: bhavanimaki.com/store Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Shinay Tredeau: shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: emmanuellemartinmusic.com Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: This is a juicy conversation! We invited Sherry Cassedy on the podcast to explore the interface of Yoga and the Catholic teachings. Sherry shares from her deep well of experience—she’s a wife, mother and grandmother, a published author, holds a master's degree in transpersonal psychology, is a life-long practitioner of Catholic mysticism, a lover and teacher of Yoga, a lawyer for over 35 years, and a long-time student and teacher of Patanjali’s Yoga Sūtra. Listen in to this candid conversation filled with insights and inspiration. Show Notes: Special Guest Sherry Cassedy: marriage-unveiled.org Bhavani Maki: bhavanimaki.com Purchase your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: bhavanimaki.com/store Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Shinay Tredeau: shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: emmanuellemartinmusic.com Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode, Bhavani deepens our understanding of the third chapter of Patanjali’s Yoga Sutra, the Vibhuti Pada. “It’s actually quite practical and grounded,” she says. “This particular chapter is about tuning into the realms that don’t have form and developing intimacy with yourself.” Bhavani also further unpacks Yoga as an animistic tradition. “Life is not confined through what we can write down through taxonomy… we learn to drop into a deeper remembrance of our own origins and source.” Show Notes: Bhavani Maki: bhavanimaki.com Purchase your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: bhavanimaki.com/store Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Shinay Tredeau: shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: emmanuellemartinmusic.com Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this conversation Bhāvani shares what she’s learning in her current undertaking of Ida Rolf Structural Integration. Bhāvani elucidates on her experience of shifting from yoga as a “performative experience” to one of experiential education, “Right knowledge does nothing for our soul. It’s more about the process of liberation from constricting ideals,” says Bhāvani. Once again we are reminded of our ability to “feel/see” and to trust in our organic intelligence. Show Notes: Needle Tower - tensegrity model Strolling Under the Skin Bhavani Maki: bhavanimaki.com Purchase your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: bhavanimaki.com/store Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Shinay Tredeau: shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: emmanuellemartinmusic.com Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Shinay asks Bhāvani about working with regret on the yogic path. Bhāvani speaks about the constellations of life, waves of development, and cycles of regression. They talk about having a “Comfortable level of tension,” and the nature of time. Bhāvani gives practical practices to ground yourself in the moment and answers the question, “Do you feel that there is such a thing as wasted time?” Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international Yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this conversation Bhāvani and Shinay talk about the “Yoga of Motherhood,” the tender, sweet individuation process that both parent and child undertake. Bhavani says, “It’s about loosening the reins and holding space to work with our own impulses and frustrations, practicing a different kind of patience. It’s the yogik path of seeing, clearly What Is.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Bhāvani talks about her forthcoming book, the insights she’s gained from completing the Kaivalya Pāda, the fourth chapter of Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtra, with her Online Mentorship Group, and what she’s looking forward to in unpacking the Vibhuti Pada, the third chapter, starting January 29, 2025. Shinay and Bhavani take a deep dive into Bhavani’s shifting focus from finding the “perfect shape” in yogāsana to, “Exploring dynamic embodiment through somatic experiencing.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: This is part two of a full-length recording of one of Bhāvani Maki’s classes in the Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School. From the second book, Sādhana Pāda, of the Yoga Sūtra of Patañjali, this teaching gives us a step by step process to observe our hooks and how to eventually take the leap out of our problem addiction and reminds us, “Don't gorge on poisoned honey.” The Yogi-in-training embraces pain as the force of evolution and as an opportunity to look closer. YS II.16 Heyaṁ duḥkham anāgatam: The avoidable pain that is yet to come, can be and should be avoided. Divyadṛṣṭi: Personal Insight Questions: What is the pain body you inherited? How have you explored Amor Fati? In what areas of your life do you try to avoid pain? What areas do you face into it? life, body, mind How do you respond when you are at the threshold? Have you felt pain without suffering? Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Today Shinay Tredeau and Bhāvani Maki bring their listeners a unique podcast episode. This is part one of a full-length recording of one of Bhāvani Maki’s classes in Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School. From the second book, Sādhana Pāda, of the Yoga Sūtra of Patañjali, this teaching gives us a step by step process to observe our hooks and how to eventually take the leap out of our problem addiction and reminds us, “Don't gorge on poisoned honey.” The Yogi-in-training embraces pain as the force of evolution and as an opportunity to look closer. YS II.16 Heyaṁ duḥkham anāgatam: The avoidable pain that is yet to come, can be and should be avoided. Show Notes: Bhāvani Silvia Maki, international yoga teacher and author: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Join the Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program and Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Podcast Host, Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and Outro Music by: Emmaneulle Martin (@emmakka) https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie and Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode, Shinay and Bhāvani talk about the tenderizing process of maturation. The necessity of cultivating a personal practice, and the care of the soul that is required on this mystical and practical path of yoga that is soma - the nexus of body-heart-mind. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Bhāvani and Shinay speak about the feminine principle in yoga. “Yoga is described as dilation, fluidity, and looking into the shadow,” says Bhāvani, “we learn through the infinitely creative principle that is the evolutionary process. And evolution takes a very long time.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka Nischala Joy Devi Rama Jyoti Vernon Mariana Caplan

Summary: This conversation is about the deeper teachings of yoga, about getting back in touch with the original seed within us, the seed of wildness that is deeply connected to nature, our own animal body, and our primal emotions not as something to sit on but energy and passion to work with.. This conversation weaves the listener through yoga as an attitude and energetic resonance, śakti, that is a transmission from mouth to ear, from heart to heart. This conversation opens us up to what cannot be held onto, only sniffed at and felt through experience. Show Notes: Martín Prechtel: https://floweringmountain.com/ Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: This conversation from the heart is about working with strong emotions and the nuanced ways of approaching interpersonal relationships. This episode is all about trusting the somatic wisdom of the body and as Bhāvani says, “There is no recipe for every situation.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this conversation Bhāvani and Shinay talk about showing up for our yoga practice even when we don’t feel like it. “We give up some comfort for a greater cause and there’s magic to it.” Bhāvani shares about the discipline of yoga as being able to create space for something new. “These practices are a way of connecting to the substratum, they’re a way of renewing ourselves, to remember what’s really important and what’s already here and to hold space for all of it.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode Bhāvani talks about Yoga as a process of radical self-effacement, the lost art of decorum, and raising the bar for ourselves which is part of being a grownup. She talks about the importance of gathering and community community, true intimacy, and how Yoga is a crucible for creativity: it’s living science. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this session Bhāvani and Shinay talk about what it means to have true intimacy with self, about working with the many-layered beings that we are, and how this process and practice takes time. They discuss what it might take to have the courage to loosen up, the trust it takes to relax, and that we don’t need to have it all figured out—“I don’t know” as fertile ground for our true unfolding process. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode Bhāvani shares from her 40 plus years of study and practice on the path of yoga. Bhāvani talks about using the template of the kosha to work from the narrow scope of a technique oriented practice in yoga to a more felt sense in and through the body. Bhāvani shares her thoughts on perfectionism versus excellence, and together Shinay and Bhāvani talk about how the yoga practitioner is putting into practice their continuous integration. “There is nothing casual about this [Yoga]. The yogin has to engage in regular study, it’s not just book learning but through practice as well. One has to have commitment, a positive attitude, and stamina.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

This potent conversation touches upon working with Yoga through childhood, and at what age it might be appropriate for one to start to develop an appropriate relationship with powerful, potent energy within. They discuss yoga through pregnancy, menopause, very old age, and injury. “The project of Yoga is to develop capacity for insight and transmission,” says Bhavani, “there is going to be a shift in practice at every stage.” Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

In this episode, Bhāvani talks about the process of Yoga being one that squeezes us—ultimately an alchemical process. She poses this question to listeners, “Am I going to live in the wound because it’s familiar, or tune into that part of me that wants to heal and reclaim my wholeness?” This interview includes the why behind studying Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtra, the importance of having teachers who have teachers, how to honor our own lineage, and the a look at the Indigenous Heart of Yoga. “The alchemizing qualities of Yoga are about learning to develop self-understanding, looking at the compressive forces of evolution, wrestling with our angels, and finding our unique path through life.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Yoga is practical when one talks about putting the body into shapes for the purpose of healing. There's a technology that’s useful and important to learn for optimal alignment. Then there is a deeper, broader, and more complex arena of healing which includes relationships with other people and the natural world. In this conversation Bhāvani and Shinay talk about Yoga as the necessary soul work to address our ever-evolving relationships as parts to a greater whole. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: “Life experience is the ultimate experience of yoga.” In this episode Bhavani discusses Yoga as the union of opposites. How the yogi-in-training works with the body because the human body is the vehicle through which to do the work of experience. Yoga is life. It is only in human incarnation that we can find that sense of freedom that comes from working with inner tensions and outer tensions and the rituals to help us engage with life more fully. Yoga is the work of evolving our expression and reclaiming our wholeness along with the courage to stand in our essential self. It’s a juicy one! Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode Bhavani gives us her recommended reading list—a place to start for those looking to take their learning of Yoga beyond āsana. Listeners get to hear what questions Bhavani would ask her teachers given the chance. Bhavani visions her “ideal school of yoga” and elucidates the responsibility of teacher and student both. This episode is about living the questions. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com & https://shinaytredeau.substack.com Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: In this episode Bhavani talks about her second book, which is in progress. We talk about love, devotion and surrender on the path of yoga. We talk about functional practice, which is connecting to breath and to life with a sense of purpose. We discuss investing ourselves with conviction and consistency and magic! for an on-going romance with the practices of yoga. And Bhavani gives encouragement for those of us ​grappling with practicing ​at home on their own​. “Love is the action of being willing to learn about others and learn about yourself.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Summary: Can we even talk about Yoga and not talk about God? Bhāvani speaks about the dynamic response between divinity and humanity; the journey of discovering divinity through our own process of going into the underworld and unearthing, in ourselves, the frictions which are potent forms for creating a fertile field in which we realize that opposites are held within the oneness. She employs us to “Trust in the difficult!” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Not only is Bhāvani an internationally recognized teacher of yoga, she is also a life-long student of astrology. She delves into the big questions of “What are these times asking of us as citizens of our locale and as practitioners of yoga?” Bhāvani takes the “woo” out of yoga, and the study of astrology, and provides listeners with a pragmatic approach to anchor ourselves in the study and practice of these evolving science. In her own words Bhāvani elucidates, “It’s not about the spiritual highs, necessarily, it’s about how we integrate those experiences into our life and how we manage the day-to-day, nitty-gritty of our lives.”

Welcome to the “Householder” Lineage Summary: Yoga as Self Care. The necessary discomfort that is inherent when we make efforts to foster our growth and our own creativity. Bhavani emphasizes, “It’s taking time to invest in the things that really matter to us.” We are learning to integrate our humanity into the spiritual experience. This conversation touches on bringing our spiritual practices to the forefront of our lives and using these daily rituals in service for building our capacity for loving. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Ways of working with the mind. In this episode, Bhāvani speaks about cultivating true intimacy with oneself and grappling with the practice of yoga. She dialogues about ways of working with the mind, cultivating discernment and embracing the unknown. She describes what she means by “breakthrough experience.” We travel off the beaten path with practical tools for engaging with the whole human complex with tenderness. Sūtra mentioned in this episode: II.1 Tapaḥ svādhyāyeśvarapraṇidhānāni kriyāyogaḥ: purification, self-study in tandem with meta-physical teachings, and letting-go into Creative Source comprise Yoga in action. II.2 Samādhi bhāvanārthaḥ klesha tanū karaṇārthaś ca: through the assiduous cultivation of Kriyā Yoga, the klesha are attenuated and removed, revealing our natural state of samādhi. I.51 Tasyāpi nirodhe sarva nirodhān nirbījaḥ samādhiḥ: when even this effort and desire to control or counter has itself been countered, like all others, then there comes that all-knowing wisdom which flowers without needing to be implanted. II.13 Sati mūle tad vipāko jātyāyur bhogāḥ: the presence of such roots will determine the quality of life, vitality and enjoyment. I:12 Abhyāsa vairāgyābhyām tannirodhaḥ: the way to attenuate distortion and settle into clarity is through practice and non-participation. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

In this episode we speak about Grace, family ties, healthy individuation and commitment phobia. Bhavani gives her perspective about the work we do as practitioners of yoga to align our bodies through asana as well as the necessary work we each must engage in in order to get clear in our most intimate relationships. One of the ways to do this is to make distinctions for ourselves about what and how we want to engage in our own healing—what’s ours to do something about in this lifetime and what’s not. Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka I:2 Yogas chitta vṛtti nirodha Yoga is the intentional resolution of all involuntary states of mind and emotion to embody integration and reclaim our wholeness. I:4 Vṛtti sārūpyam itaratra At other times, the Seer conforms with the distortions of fragmented consciousness which are like of the night. Later in the interview, Bhavani makes the distinction between “yoga class”—going to class and learning from a teacher, and “yoga practice”—which is what we do on our own. Shāntiḥ Path Upaniṣad saha nāvavatu May we together be protected saha nau bhunaktu May we together be nourished saha vīryam karavāvahai May we practice with great courage and energy tejasvi nāvadhitamastu May our studies be brilliant and effective

In this episode Bhāvani expounds upon her work with navigating strong emotions productively. This is the nuanced path of learning about energy management. Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka II.1 Tapaḥ svādhyāyeśvarapraṇidhānāni kriyāyogaḥ Purification, self-study in tandem with meta-physical teachings, and letting-go into Creative Source comprise Yoga in action. Robert Plutchik (21 October 1927 – 29 April 2006) 1.4 I:4 Vṛtti sārūpyam itaratra At other times, the Seer conforms with the distortions of fragmented consciousness which are like of the night. 5 klesha: I:36 Viśokā vā jyotiṣmatī Or, by meditating on the core of your heart as sparkling and free from sorrows. Internal Family Systems 4.3 Nimittam aprayojakam prakritinam varana bhedas tu tatah ksetrikavat Incidental causes or actions do not lead to the emergence of attainments or realization, but rather, come by the removal of obstacles, much like the way a farmer removes a barrier (sluice gate), so as to naturally allow the irrigation of his field.

In this episode we walk about pain: What pain, physical and psychological, can teach us about ourselves; sitting with our pain; learning from our pain; and how to reclaim health and wholeness.  I:4 Vṛtti sārūpyam itaratra At other times, the Seer conforms with the distortions of fragmented consciousness which are like of the night. I.47 Nirvicāra vaiśāradye’dhyātma prasādaḥ On achieving proficiency in Nirvichara Samadhi, a state of uninterrupted flow accompanied by loss of a limited self, spiritual insight is purified. II.16 Heyaṁ duḥkham anāgatam The avoidable pain that is yet to come, can be and should be avoided. Guest House By Jalaluddin Rumi This being human is a guest house. Every morning a new arrival. A joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor. Welcome and entertain them all! Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows, who violently sweep your house empty of its furniture, still, treat each guest honorably. He may be clearing you out for some new delight. The dark thought, the shame, the malice, meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in. Be grateful for whoever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond. from Rumi: Selected Poems, translated by Coleman Barks with John Moynce, A. J. Arberry, Reynold Nicholson (Penguin Books, 2004). Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

The virtual age and the yogik path. Living a “simple life” in the ever-changing and dynamic world that is the twenty-first century. Bhāvani speaks about Yoga as a path of involution and provides insight that goes directly to the heart of those of us who want to “save the world.” Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Bhāvani reveals key teachings from Rama Jyoti Vernon that she received in a visitation after Rama had left her body. This Conversation from the Heart goes into exploring the Yoga Sutra through a more feminine reframing and the importance of curiosity in studentship, teachership, and in life. Bhāvani touches on the connectedness of all parts of creation—this is Yoga. Bhāvani gives insight into her teaching style and what keeps her interested. Hint: the mystery is where the juice is! Show Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by: Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka Summary: Invocation to Devi/Goddess Saraswati: सरस्वति नमस्तुभ्यं वरदे कामरूपिणि । विद्यारम्भं करिष्यामि सिद्धिर्भवतु मे सदा ॥ Sarasvati Namastubhyam Varade Kaama-Ruupinni | Vidya[a-A]arambham Karissyaami Siddhir-Bhavatu Me Sadaa || Sarasvati Namastubhyam Varade Kaama-Ruupinni | Vidya[a-A]arambham Karissyaami Siddhir-Bhavatu Me Sadaa || Translation: Salutations to Devi Saraswati, Who is the giver of Boons and fulfiller of Wishes, O Devi, when I begin my Studies, Please bestow on me the capacity of Right Understanding, always.

In this episode, Bhāvani and Shinay talk about Patañjali, the renegade, the human, the myth, the legend. Bhāvani clarifies, once again, the distinction between Patañjali’s eight-limbed yoga known as Ashtanga Yoga, (also known as Raja Yoga and Vidya Yoga), and that of the Astanga yoga method borrowed by Sri K. Pattabhi Jois. Shinay and Bhāvani go into depth about how the study of Patañjali’s Yoga Sūtra has changed Bhāvani’s practice and her teaching. Notes: Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra  Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by:  Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Bhāvani responds to the questions, “As a business owner, wife, mother, and now a growing elder who has passed the threshold into climacteric (more commonly known as menopause), how has your sādhana, yoga practice, spiritual practice changed over the years?” She gives practical tools on where to start your prāṇāyāma practice; and elucidates further on what Yoga is, what it is not and guides the seeker to establish and reestablish their own center through Love, and how she is training the next generation of leaders to shift the collective consciousness. Bhāvani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Program & Sūtra Wisdom School: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/yoga-sutra  Get your copy of The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by:  Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka

Bhāvani & Shinay explore the Yoga tradition as a multi-layered experience that starts with a gestational period from which we emerge as something never-before-seen grounded in tradition. Bhavani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Live Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Wisdom Series:  Purchase The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by:  Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka Bhavani Maki on the Yoga Revealed Podcast

Bhāvani shares her personal journey and the adventure of Yoga as coming home to Self, in the indigenous tradition of heart-to-heart transmission. Bhavani Maki: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/ Live Online Yoga Sūtra Mentorship Wisdom Series:  Purchase The Yogi’s Roadmap: The Patañjali Yoga Sūtra as a Journey to Self Realization: https://www.bhavanimaki.com/offers/iS6E2ioL/checkout Rama Jyoti Vernon: https://www.rama.yoga/ Shinay Tredeau: https://shinaytredeau.com/ Intro and outro music by:  Emmaneulle Martin: https://www.emmanuellemartinmusic.com/biographie Emmanuelle on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/emmakka Bhavani Maki on the Yoga Revealed Podcast