To The Bone: Sports Medicine Podcast

In this episode Shannon Fleming and Heather Collins dives into the new CPC Pathfinder system, explaining how it impacts athletic trainers' continuing education and professional development. We break down the framework, requirements, and future vision for this innovative platform.Listen to learn more about this new tool!

Most athletic trainers don’t realize how much legal, ethical, and business knowledge is essential when working as a per diem contractor. If you're considering jumping into the freelance side of athletic training, this episode is your ultimate guide to avoid costly mistakes and maximize your earning potential.Explore the hidden risks of per diem work—liability issues, state licensure laws, documentation pitfalls, and insurance gaps—that many overlook until it’s too late. Andy Carter, Paul Rupp, and Jason Doctor, all seasoned experts in athletic training and legal compliance, reveal what you must know before stepping onto the field. They break down complex topics like state practice acts, emergency action plans, liability insurance, and documentation protocols, all in clear, actionable terms. You'll discover: how to handle emergency policies at tournaments, negotiate fair rates, and protect yourself from legal liabilities.

In this in-depth interview, Filip Keuppens, CEO of Pickle Juice Company, shares insights into the science behind their innovative product that stops muscle cramps. Discover how they scaled from a small startup to a global brand, the importance of education in functional foods, and the future of hyperfunctional nutrition.

April is Global Volunteer MonthMiranda Newell from the BOC explores the vital role of volunteers in the athletic training profession, highlighting the efforts of the BOC to engage and recognize volunteers, and discussing how volunteerism impacts the growth and credibility of the field.

Tammi Gaw, a sports law attorney with a background in athletic training, unveils the hidden clauses lurking in employment agreements that may be preventing you from maximizing your earnings. She explains how non-compete, non-solicitation, confidentiality, and conflict of interest clauses are often misunderstood or overlooked — yet they directly impact your career flexibility. Tammi shares ways to spot these provisions, understand their true enforceability based on where you work, and navigate the legal minefield of healthcare contracts. *This is not legal advise, make sure to consult a lawyer for employment specific questions.

Jay Ostia, founder of Nexus Sports Medicine, reveals how strategic self-funding, innovative product lines, and international networking are transforming the sports medicine industry. If you're tired of the same old growth advice and want actionable strategies to build a resilient, profitable business on your own terms, this episode is your playbook.Jay shares the real challenges of self-funding product innovation, navigating tariffs, and patenting high-impact designs—all while maintaining control over his company’s direction. He discusses the importance of legal protection to prevent copycats, the costs behind patents and trademarks, and why relying solely on third-party funding or investors can complicate your growth. You'll discover practical insights on managing cash flow, the drawbacks of crowdfunding, and how small business owners can leverage cash-based models for faster revenue.

Ryan Kendrick, the inventor of Dynamic Tape, reveals how this revolutionary system differs from kinesiology tape and the science behind its design. We talk about the secret to a biomechanical tape that actually works like an external muscle—absorbing load, guiding movement, and dramatically improving performance and rehab outcomes. Most taping methods treat support passively, but Ryan’s innovation is built around mechanical load management—resisting forces early, allowing full range, and helping your body move naturally without restriction. Dive into the evolution of the product, from initial prototypes to the high-performance tapes made from recycled plastics, and discover how it’s being used by elite athletes, injured patients, and even kids with neurological conditions to change lives overnight.

Nikki Harris, a leading educator and advocate, revealing how a clear sense of who you are and what you stand for can open doors to greater respect, better compensation, and authentic leadership in a complex, evolving profession.We discuss why many athletic trainers struggle to articulate their value in a crowded marketplace—and how shifting your mindset from support staff to strategic healthcare professional can revolutionize your career. Nikki shares actionable frameworks for building a personal brand rooted in your core values, expertise, and unique purpose—whether you're just starting out or deep into your journey. You'll learn how to harness outcomes-based documentation, effective advocacy, and strategic positioning to elevate your role and influence.

Jason DeMarco is a seasoned expert in sports insurance, known for his innovative approach to athlete safety and risk management, working directly with athletic trainers and sports organizations to elevate standards and protect careers.In a world where sports injuries and legal liabilities are more litigious than ever, athletic trainers often underestimate the power of tailored insurance coverage to protect their careers and their futures. Jason DeMarco, Director of Partnerships at Players Health, reveals how smart insurance strategies can drastically lower your risk, maximize your protection, and even give you financial incentives for proper documentation and risk mitigation.Did you know that many athletic trainers work without general liability insurance, leaving them exposed to lawsuits from slip-and-falls or equipment mishaps that aren’t covered by professional liability policies? Jason shares how the traditional one-size-fits-all policies fall short—and how you can build a comprehensive coverage plan that actually matches your day-to-day responsibilities.

This episode explores the multifaceted concept of wellness in athletic training, emphasizing the social determinants of health, holistic care, and practical strategies for athletic trainers to enhance athlete well-being.

Unlock the hidden potential of athletic trainers in healthcare with Tim Nicolello, president of the Athletic Trainers in the Physicians Practice Society. Discover how ATs are transforming patient care, expanding their roles beyond traditional sports settings, and shaping the future of medicine. If you're an athletic trainer aspiring to elevate your career, a healthcare professional seeking innovative team integration, or someone curious about the evolving healthcare landscape, this episode is your blueprint for impactful change.Most ATs don’t realize how their skills extend far beyond the sidelines. Tim reveals the insider strategies to break into physician practices, the real value of specialty certifications, and the concrete steps needed to position athletic trainers as essential healthcare providers. Learn how outreach programs can boost hospital branding and community trust, all while balancing costs and revenue — without sacrificing patient care or professional growth.

In this in-depth interview, Paul Geisler shares his insights on the current state of athletic training, its professional identity, scope of practice, and the challenges facing the profession. He discusses the history, systemic issues, and future directions, emphasizing the need for clarity, evidence-based practice, and strategic leadership. In this in-depth conversation, Paul Geisler and Shelby Daly explore the future of athletic training education, professional authority, and the evolving landscape of clinical practice. They discuss the impact of degree requirements, research needs, and strategic initiatives shaping the profession.

In this episode, David Kay and Bryan Den Hartog discuss the innovative Vero Ankle brace, its design, benefits, and application in sports medicine and rehabilitation. This is the most innovative brace that has entered the market for a long time, challenging the traditional canvas or ridged ankle brace on the market. They explore how this brace addresses common issues with traditional supports, its material science, and its role in injury prevention and recovery.

Austin Martinez shares his journey from traditional athletic training to a successful corporate career in wellness and performance. Discover insights on skill development, career flexibility, and innovative opportunities in the health industry.

In this conversation, Adam Halpern discusses the innovative platform WaveOn Health, which aims to revolutionize athletic training by leveraging technology to connect athletes with trainers in a scalable way. He explains the recent acquisition of PRIVIT, a company that digitizes pre-participation physicals, and how this partnership enhances the services offered to athletes. Adam shares milestones achieved by WaveOn Health, the importance of building a community for athletic trainers, and the focus on preventative care and early intervention. He emphasizes the role of technology in improving access to athletic trainers and the future potential for data collection and insights to further enhance athletic health management.

In this conversation, Shelby Daly and Patrick Ohaver discuss the evolving landscape of athletic training, focusing on Patrick's extensive experience and involvement in the field. They explore the challenges faced by athletic trainers, particularly in terms of volunteerism, compensation, and professional development. The discussion highlights the importance of associations in supporting athletic trainers and the need for strategic planning and leadership to elevate the profession. They also touch on the role of athletic trainers in healthcare and the potential for growth in this area.

In this conversation, Shelby Daly interviews Kyle Southall, the president of the Alabama Athletic Trainer Association, discussing various aspects of athletic training, including the importance of clinician-centered research, the challenges of evidence-based practice, and the need for effective documentation. They explore advocacy efforts to address the shortage of athletic trainers, recruitment strategies, and the evolving landscape of athletic training education. The conversation emphasizes the significance of community engagement and professional empowerment in advancing the athletic training profession.

In this episode, Shelby Daly and Dre Mendoza discuss the evolving landscape of athletic training, focusing on how athletic trainers can leverage affiliate programs, social media, and innovative strategies to create additional income streams. They explore the importance of ethical partnerships, charging for services, and advocating for fair compensation while navigating the challenges of supplies and networking in the profession. The conversation highlights the growing interest in athletic training and the potential for increased visibility through collaboration with athletes and social media engagement.

Shelby Daly interviews Kyle Peckham, a certified athletic trainer and creator of Athletic Trainer Finder, a platform designed to connect athletic trainers with job opportunities and professional networks. They discuss the challenges faced by athletic trainers in the job market, the importance of salary transparency, and the need for education and advocacy within the profession. Kyle shares insights on how Athletic Trainer Finder aims to modernize job searching for athletic trainers and the future potential of the platform.

Shelby Daly speaks with Deanna Kuykendall and Karen Fennell about the role of athletic trainers in the military, particularly in relation to the H2F program. They discuss the recent controversy surrounding the removal of athletic trainers, the advocacy efforts that followed from the National Athletic Training Association's Governmental Affairs and Political Action Committee (NATAPAC), and the importance of communication and relationships in navigating legislative challenges. The conversation emphasizes the need for proactive measures and member engagement to ensure the continued success and recognition of athletic trainers in various settings.

In the second part of the H2F series, Mackenize Heck describes the intricacies of military athletic training within the H2F (Holistic Health and Fitness) program. She discusses a typical day for an athletic trainer, the importance of collaboration with strength and conditioning coaches, and the management of common injuries among trainees. The conversation also highlights recent updates in the H2F program, including data management systems and the future of athletic training in the military, emphasizing the need for trust and education in the field.

MacKenzie Heck and Shelby Daly dive into the unexpected announcement regarding job cuts for athletic trainers from the military setting, highlighting the confusion and lack of communication surrounding the issue. It reflects on the emotional impact of such news on professionals in the field.

Shelby Daly discusses her capstone project, 'To the Bone,' which addresses the challenges faced by athletic trainers, particularly in professional responsibility and career sustainability. She emphasizes the importance of Domain 5 competencies and the need for open dialogue within the profession. Through her podcast, she aims to create a platform for authentic conversations that foster professional growth and engagement. Daly shares insights on listener demographics, feedback, and her future goals for the podcast, highlighting the challenges of generating revenue and sustaining content creation.ReferencesBOC. Practice Analysis 7th Edition. 2015. https://at.bocatc.org/practice_analysis/BOC. Practice Analysis 8th Edition. 2024. https://at.bocatc.org/practice_analysis_types/2/purchases/newCambridge Dictionary. 2025. Retrieved from: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/englishEdler, JR. et al. Athletic Training Assessment of Knowledge Inconsistent with Perceptions of Knowledge Needs: Part II. IJAHSP. 2020 Jan 01;18(1), Article 7. DOI: 10.46743/1540-580X/2020.1824Kahanov, L. Age, sex, and setting factors and labor force in athletic training. JAT. 2011;46(4):424-30. doi: 10.4085/1062-6050-46.4.424.Kakungulu, S. The Role of Podcasts in Shaping Public Discourse. Research Invention Journal of Research in Education. 2025;5(1):60-66. DOI 10.59298/RIJRE/2025/516066 McClain, C. About half of TikTok users under 30 say they use it to keep up with politics, news. Pew Research Center. 2024. https://pewrsr.ch/3SVKrdWMerriam-Webster Online Dictionary. 2025. Retrieved November 8, 2025 from: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Oglesby, L. Athletic Trainer Burnout: A Systematic Review of the Literature. JAT. 2020;55(4):416-430. doi: 10.4085/1062-6050-43-19Shearer, E. et al. Podcast use among different age groups. Pew Research Center. 2023. https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2023/04/18/podcast-use-among-different-age-groups/Weingart, P. et al. Public engagement with science-Origins, motives and impact in academic literature and science policy. PLoS One. 2021;16(7):e0254201. DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0254201

In this conversation, shares his extensive background in athletic training and discusses the challenges faced by professionals in the field. He highlights the issues of burnout and moral injury, the need for a reevaluation of the business model, and the importance of advocacy and leadership. The impact of COVID-19 on athletic training is also addressed, along with the critical issue of professional identity. Jim emphasizes the role of social media in shaping discussions and the need for innovative solutions to navigate the future of athletic training. In this conversation, Jim Raynor discusses the evolving role of athletic trainers and the challenges they face in terms of job opportunities, value perception, and leadership within the profession. He emphasizes the importance of innovative business models, the need for advocacy and engagement to enhance the profession's standing in the healthcare system. Raynor also highlights the dichotomy between the roles athletic trainers are trained for and the positions they often find themselves in, urging for a reevaluation of the profession's value proposition and the need for a proactive approach to change.

Shelby Daly sits down with Dr. Stacy Walker, a founding leader of the Association of Athletic Training Education (AATE). They delve into the creation and evolution of AATE, its role in advancing athletic training education, and the challenges faced by the profession. Stacy discusses the importance of nimbleness and strategic planning in professional organizations. The conversation also touches on the broader landscape of athletic training and the need for specialized support for educators and other aspects of the profession. Join us for a deep dive into the future of athletic training education and the pivotal role of AATE in shaping it.www.aated.org

In this episode, Shelby Daly interviews Paul Higgs, who works in an innovative athletic training clinic where it redefines the role of athletic trainers in healthcare. They discuss the Center for Exercise Medicine and Rehabilitation, the unique business model of the clinic, the challenges and opportunities in third-party reimbursement, and the importance of preventative care. Paul emphasizes the need for athletic trainers to advocate for their profession and the services they provide, while also addressing the ethical considerations in billing and patient care. The conversation concludes with advice for aspiring athletic trainers and thoughts on the future of the profession.

Agustin Melendez is a certified athletic trainer and founder of Combat Sports Medicine. Augie has carved out a unique role working ringside and cage-side as both an athletic trainer and professional cutman, supporting some of the toughest athletes in the world. From managing injuries in the middle of a fight camp to controlling bleeding between rounds, his work demands precision, calm under pressure, and a deep understanding of what it means to keep fighters safe while helping them perform at their best. What can we learn from working ringside?

In this episode Shelby sits down with Lynn Allen, President of Athletic Rehabilitation Therapy International (ARTI), to explore the growing global movement toward unified professional standards in sports medicine and athletic therapy in Ireland. Lynn shares her journey through athletic therapy leadership and the mission behind ARTI — to promote international recognition, collaboration, and professional mobility for Athletic Therapists and Rehabilitation Therapists around the world. Together, they discuss how ARTI is bridging the gap between countries’ credentialing systems and helping clinicians gain mutual recognition across borders.

In this conversation, Shelby Daly and Albert Torres discuss the multifaceted world of athletic training, emphasizing the importance of hands-on experience, effective communication, and the challenges faced by athletic trainers in both educational and professional settings. They explore the evolution of athletic training programs, the debate over specialization, and the critical role of athletic trainers in youth academies. The conversation highlights the need for a well-rounded education that prepares students for the complexities of the profession, as well as the importance of fostering strong relationships within the athletic community.

In this episode, Shelby Daly interviews Jacob Swisher, the creator of EZ-EAP, a digital platform designed to enhance emergency action plans for athletic trainers. They discuss the evolution of athletic training, the gaps in traditional emergency plans, and how technology can improve athlete safety and response times. Jacob shares his journey into athletic training, the features of EZ-EAP, and the importance of regular practice and updates to emergency action plans. The conversation also touches on the legal implications of inadequate emergency preparedness and the challenges of implementing new technology in athletic departments.www.ez-eap.com

In this conversation, Aaron Ngor discusses the importance of building relationships within healthcare systems to streamline care. He shares his journey of developing a private practice and the significance of networking and outreach in providing effective care. Additionally, he highlights the innovative approach to sideline medicine for athletes and artists, showcasing how structured systems can enhance care delivery.

Episode Skeleton:Shelby and Corey Oshikoya discuss the importance of social determinants of health in athletic training. They explore how factors such as socioeconomic status, education, and community resources impact athletes' recovery and performance. Corey emphasizes the need for athletic trainers to incorporate these considerations into their practice, advocating for a holistic approach to care that includes mental health and nutrition. The discussion also highlights the challenges faced by athletic trainers in addressing these issues and the importance of self-care and community support.Resources: Three screening tools for social determinants of health:https://www.aafp.org/pubs/fpm/blogs/inpractice/entry/social_determinants.htmlHealthy People 2030: https://odphp.health.gov/healthypeopleSocial Determinant of Health: Consideration for Athletic Health Care. Picha, et al, 2021: https://nata.kglmeridian.com/view/journals/attr/57/6/article-p521.xml?isSearch=truePicha et al, 2024: Athletic Trainers’ Observations of Social Determinants of Health in the Collegiate Setting: A Card Study

In this two-part interview, Shelby Daly sits down with Payton McNabb, a former multi-sport student-athlete who became a national advocate for athlete safety and women’s rights after suffering a life-altering concussion during a high school volleyball game. Together, they discuss the evolving landscape of competitive sports, the role of athletic trainers in protecting athletes, and the growing debate around fairness, safety, and equity in women’s athletics.In the second part, Shelby is joined by Dr. Simi to explore how athletic trainers and athletic departments can thoughtfully navigate these complex and often polarizing situations. They discuss strategies for fostering open, respectful conversations around inclusion and identity in sport, creating spaces that encourage understanding and dialogue rather than division or “cancel culture.” Inclusion can still mean excluding certain parties. www.independentwomen.com

EPISODE SKELETONJohn Jenkins discusses the critical role of preceptors in athletic training education. He shares his journey of how he got into the profession, the challenges and rewards of being a preceptor, and the importance of mentorship in shaping the next generation of athletic trainers. They explore the need for formal training for preceptors, the impact of ego on the profession, and the significance of building clinical confidence in students. The discussion emphasizes the importance of creating a positive learning environment and the need for continuous learning and collaboration within the field. We also address whether preceptors should be paid or not.We also discuss if preceptors should be paid or not.

EPISODE SKELETON:Matt Campbell, an athletic trainer and founder of the virtual Midwest Concussion Clinic, discusses the evolution of concussion care, particularly in the context of telehealth. He emphasizes the importance of continuous education, the challenges faced in virtual evaluations, and the need for better advocacy and awareness in concussion management. The discussion also touches on the differences in care for athletic versus non-athletic populations, the significance of baseline testing, and the role of media in shaping public perception of concussions.www.mwconcussion.com

EPISODE SKELETON:David Restiano the founder of Sor Soap, a unique product designed for soft tissue mobilization, shares his journey from being a graphic designer to creating a wellness product that combines hygiene with muscle recovery. He discusses the challenges of launching Sor Soap, including finding a manufacturer and educating the public about the benefits of soft tissue mobilization. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-care for athletes, the impact of Shark Tank on his business, and future product innovations.Discount Code 15%: TTB15www.sorsoap.com

EPISODE SKELETON:Mitch Hauschildt discusses the evolution of athletic training, emphasizing the importance of balancing various roles within the profession, the significance of networking, and the shift towards a performance mindset in sports medicine. He highlights the need for specialization in athletic training, the future of education in the field, and the value of athletic trainers in different settings. Additionally, Mitch explores the benefits of red light therapy and the growing importance of mental health in athletic training.Fringe Discount Code: ToTheBone10www.fringeheals.com

EPISODE SKELETON:Brian Barry, an experienced athletic trainer and advocate for the profession shares his journey into athletic training, pivotal moments in his career, and insights on leadership, community involvement, and the importance of business acumen in the field. The conversation also delves into the challenges faced by the NATA and the need for transparency and engagement within the organization. Brian emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, accountability, and effective communication in leadership roles, as well as the necessity for athletic trainers to take charge of their professional development and community engagement.

EPISODE SKELETON:Tamisha Guy, the founder of Hue Tape, talks about kinesiology tape designed for individuals with melanin-rich skin tones. Tamisha shares her inspiration for creating the product, the challenges she faced in the competitive textile industry, and her journey as an entrepreneur. She emphasizes the importance of inclusivity, quality, and representation in wellness products, and offers advice for aspiring entrepreneurs. The discussion also touches on the future plans for Hue Tape and the impact it aims to have in the sports medicine community.20% Discount Code: THB20www.huetape.com

EPISODE SKELETON:Marissa Villafuerte-Brooks, an athletic trainer in public safety, discussing the unique challenges and rewards of her role. Marissa shares insights on rehabilitation, the importance of workers' compensation, and the role of athletic trainers in injury prevention and management. The discussion highlights the significance of communication, tracking return on investment, and the complexities of working with public safety professionals. We discuss the intricacies of injury prevention and management within public safety settings, particularly focusing on the challenges and opportunities presented by workers' compensation. She emphasizes the importance of building trust with public safety personnel, advocating for athletic trainers, and the evolving landscape of job opportunities in this field. The discussion also touches on the significance of data collection and the need for effective communication and networking among athletic trainers.www.psatsociety.com

EPISODE SKELETON:Grace Savage, an expert in CPR and emergency care for athletic trainers, discuss the importance of CPR training, understanding cardiac arrest, and the need for continuous education and practice. Grace emphasizes the significance of clear communication and leadership during emergencies, as well as the emerging technologies that may enhance CPR effectiveness. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by athletic trainers in maintaining their skills and the importance of building relationships with local EMS for better emergency preparedness.

EPISODE SKELETONTyler Lesher discusses his journey of creating the EscaLAte Summit and ARC certification, emphasizing the importance of patient care, the need for safety nets, and the value of networking. He shares insights on the financial aspects of athletic training, the challenges faced by professionals, and the opportunities available in private practice. Tyler encourages aspiring athletic trainers to invest in themselves and build strong networks to succeed in their careers.www.escalatela.comwww.advancedrehabcertification.com

EPISODE SKELETON:In this episode, Shelby Daly discusses the new Continuing Professional Certification (CPC) program with Shannon Fleming and Heather Collins from the BOC. They explore the differences between the new CPC renewal and the legacy renewal, emphasizing the personalized and flexible approach to professional development. The conversation delves into the Pathfinder tool, which aids athletic trainers in setting goals, tracking progress, and reflecting on their learning. The hosts discuss the importance of meaningful continuing education, the value of the CPC program for athletic trainers, and how it can help demonstrate their value to employers and the healthcare system. They also address concerns about change and the future of certification in athletic training.TAKEAWAYSCPC is designed to empower athletic trainers in their professional development.The Pathfinder tool offers personalized learning experiences.CEUs should be meaningful and intentional for professional growth.The CPC program aims to align athletic trainers with healthcare standards.Pathfinder helps athletic trainers track their progress and document learning.Employers can use the CPC to assess the value of athletic trainers.The program is built to fit into busy schedules and promote manageable learning.Change in certification processes can be an opportunity for growth.The CPC is not an additional requirement but an alternative path.Athletic trainers can explore the CPC without penalties or risks.bocatc.org

In this conversation, Jared Maisel, an international athletic trainer, shares his experiences working in various countries, including China, Belgium, and Hong Kong. He discusses the unique challenges faced by athletic trainers abroad, the importance of networking and education, and the evolving role of athletic trainers in international schools. Jared emphasizes the need for collaboration among professionals and the significance of adapting to different healthcare systems. He also reflects on his personal growth through these experiences and offers advice for aspiring athletic trainers looking to work internationally.

 Frances Gilbert, the director of athletic training for the Savannah Bananas, discusses the unique environment of Banana Ball, the evolution of athletic training within this entertainment-focused league, and the challenges and opportunities that come with it. She shares her journey from collegiate sports to professional athletic training, the importance of collaboration with other departments, and the need for continuous growth and adaptability in the field. The conversation highlights the balance between providing high-quality care for athletes while also ensuring an engaging experience for fans.www.thesavannahbananas.com

Shelby Daly and Adam Halpern discuss the current state of athletic training, focusing on the challenges and opportunities within the profession. They explore the impact of telehealth, the ongoing licensure debates, and the unique role of athletic trainers in healthcare. The discussion emphasizes the need for innovation, effective marketing, and strategic change to enhance the profession's visibility and value. They also touch on the importance of building relationships within the community and the necessity for athletic trainers to embrace their unique position as health navigators.

Can a simple pivot change your future trajectory toward success?In this episode, we sit down with Alisha Pennington—athletic trainer turned entrepreneur—as she shares her powerful journey of transformation and strategic reinvention. We dive into her new book, Power of the Pivot, and unpack:-A practical framework for making aligned, strategic life decisions-The courage it takes to advocate for yourself and embrace risk-Why emotional and mental preparation is key to change-How personal and professional growth are inseparably linkedWhether you're navigating a career transition or simply ready for your next chapter, this episode is a must-listen. Make sure to get a copy of her book The Power of the PIVOT: A Strategic Guide to Aligning Action with Vision in Business by Alisha M Pennington and Maurice Pennington

Do athletic trainers need an increase in compensation, or could financial illiteracy holding ATs back from financial freedom?Dr. Eric Fuchs discuss the critical aspects of retirement planning specifically for athletic trainers. We explore the importance of income, budgeting, and the necessity of starting retirement planning early. The discussion covers building an emergency fund, managing debt, and strategies for paying off loans. They also delve into retirement savings plans, the significance of employer contributions, and how to evaluate job offers in terms of total compensation. The conversation emphasizes the need for financial literacy and proactive planning to secure a stable financial future. We go through the complexities of retirement planning, focusing on the importance of understanding pensions, 401k, and IRA management., emphasizing the need for individuals to take control of their financial futures, especially in a world where job changes are frequent. The discussion also covers strategies for catching up on retirement savings, the significance of defining retirement in terms of financial goals rather than age, and the necessity of investing wisely to combat inflation. Additionally, highlighting the role of financial advisors and the importance of having a solid financial plan.

Trish Bare Grounds, a seasoned athletic trainer with extensive experience in both traditional and non-traditional sports. Trish shares her journey from working in traditional athletic training to becoming a prominent figure in extreme sports and circus performance medicine. She discusses the importance of building trust with athletes, the challenges of working in diverse cultural settings, and the necessity of having comprehensive emergency action plans in high-risk environments. Trish emphasizes the value of passion in athletic training and the unique experiences that come from working in non-traditional sports. In this conversation, she discusses her extensive experience in performance medicine, focusing on emergency preparedness, the establishment of her own business, and the challenges faced in the athletic training field. She emphasizes the importance of mentorship, liability insurance, and the need for better education in athletic training programs. The dialogue also explores the dynamics of working in non-traditional sports and the significance of personality compatibility among team members. In this conversation, they emphasizing the need for practical experience, diversity in training, and the importance of creativity, independent thinking, and the necessity for better marketing of the profession. The discussion also touches on the autonomy of athletic trainers and the challenges posed by physician oversight, highlighting the need for a clearer definition of the scope of athletic training.bareessentialssportsmedicine.comtothebonepodcast.com

Could a piece of the crumbling H2F puzzle be the weak messaging in distinguishing an athletic trainers value and worth through ROI?Tyler Christensen discusses his interpretation of the evolving role of athletic trainers, particularly in light of the recent changes to the H2F program. Tyler shares his insights from his extensive experience in tactical strength and conditioning, emphasizing the importance of athletic trainers in bridging the injury rehabilitation and performance team, the unique reintegration that ATs bring to the table. We explore the challenges faced by athletic trainers in promoting their value and the need for a clear return on investment (ROI) to secure their positions within athletic programs. The discussion highlights the necessity for ATs to define their unique contributions to the healthcare team and the importance of collaboration with other professionals in the field. In this conversation we discuss the evolving role of ATs, particularly in military settings while exploring the financial implications when working with government contracts, the need for better integration within healthcare systems, and the importance of defining roles in human performance. The discussion also highlights the necessity of utilizing data to improve athletic training practices and the need for specialization within the profession. Finally, they address the business aspects of athletic training, emphasizing the importance of demonstrating return on investment (ROI) to secure the future of the profession.Takeaways from Tyler:1) Clarity is being lost. “Human Performance” is becoming an overused buzzword, blurring the lines between wellness, fitness, and tactical readiness. If you want to protect your profession, define it clearly and communicate its unique value.2) Stories aren’t strategies. Feel-good narratives have a place, but they don’t influence high-level decision-makers. Show your return on investment. Demonstrate outcomes that matter.3) Leadership needs to own the message. We must clearly differentiate Human Performance from fitness and wellness programs and stop playing nice in the sandbox. Leadership should champion ROI messaging and draw a clear line in the sand that you are human performance and not wellness/fitness programs.www.tothebonepodcast.com