Two Therapists Walk Into A Podcast

In this episode, Robin and Stephanie explore the inner workings of the nervous system, trauma, and the concept of parts within us. They discuss how our brain organizes around threats, the role of different defense mechanisms, and practical ways to understand and work with these parts for healing.  

Some of the deepest wounds come from what never occurred. This week, Robin and Stephanie sit with emotional neglect — the trauma with no scene to point to, just an empty room where someone should have come. Why the people carrying this wound are often the ones most convinced they don't have one. What the nervous system does when no one arrives to help it settle. And a simple daily practice for becoming the person who finally walks into the room. If "my childhood was fine" has ever left something in you unconvinced — this one's for you.

New series. After a season spent in relationships, we're going inside — to the parts of us that fragment, protect, and hold on long after we think we've moved on. We open with the question that unlocks everything: what if trauma isn't the thing that happened, but what stayed? Robin and Stephanie unpack why the calendar says it's over while the body never got the memo — including the kind of memory that carries no date, and why an old feeling can arrive as if it's happening right now. Plus a coping skill you can use anywhere: one small piece of evidence that it's now, not then.

In the series finale, Robin and Stephanie arrive at what All the Pendencies has been orbiting the whole time — the self that got left behind. Through a structural dissociation and parts lens, they explore the part that learned to disappear, what it was protecting, and why return isn't a moment of insight but a slow movement back toward yourself. Plus a coping skill that might make you cry, a nervous system nugget on what it takes for the body to learn that landing is safe, and reflection questions that look both back across the series and forward into what comes next. 

In this episode we zoom out...way out. Codependency didn't arrive in a vacuum. It was born inside a very specific cultural moment, and the water we've all been swimming in has shaped what we call healthy, what we call disordered, and who ends up with the diagnosis. Robin and Stephanie explore Western individualism and its complicated relationship with needing people, the gendered history of caregiving labor and how it became a symptom list, who gets pathologized and why, and what relational cultural theory offers as a counter-narrative. Plus — what healthy dependency actually looks like when the cultural noise quiets, a coping skill to help you find what's genuinely yours, and a nervous system nugget on why safety has to be felt before it can be trusted.

In this episode, we explore the concept of prodependence as an alternative to the traditional codependency model, emphasizing love, compassion, and understanding in relationships. Robin and Stephanie discuss how love is often misunderstood and how shifting the perspective can lead to healthier, more compassionate relationships.  

In this episode, Robin Green and Stephanie Edsall explore the profound impact of family systems on our nervous system, focusing on enmeshment, parentification, and emotional incest. They discuss how these patterns shape our relationships and somatic health, offering insights into healing and self-awareness.  

This episode explores the concept of fawning, a relational response often misunderstood as a flaw. Hosts Robin and Stephanie discuss its origins, neurological basis, costs, and practical ways to notice and shift this pattern for healthier relationships.  

This episode explores the history and evolving understanding of the concept of codependency, emphasizing compassion, curiosity, and trauma-informed approaches in therapy and relationships.  

This episode explores the concept of codependency and fawning in relationships, focusing on how early learned behaviors shape our responses and how understanding the nervous system can aid in healing. Hosted by Robin Green and Stephanie Edsall, it offers insights into relational skills, nervous system regulation, and practical grounding techniques.    keywords: codependency, fawning, nervous system, relational skills, healing, attachment, Polyvagal theory, self-awareness, emotional regulation

This episode explores the nuances of nervous system regulation, focusing on the states of calm, shutdown, and the importance of bottom-up regulation techniques. It emphasizes understanding your body's signals and offers practical tools for reconnecting with yourself.  

This episode explores the complex relationship between self-trust, nervous system regulation, and the impact of early experiences. Robin and Stephanie discuss how safe relationships and repeated evidence can rebuild trust in oneself, emphasizing the importance of slow, consistent practice.   

Exploring neurodivergence, emotional needs, and the importance of understanding your own wiring for healing and self-acceptance.  

This episode explores Accelerated Resolution Therapy (ART), a fast-acting trauma treatment that combines elements of EMDR and solution-focused therapy. Hosts Robin and Steph discuss how ART works, its neurological basis, and practical exercises for self-help.  

This episode explores the nonlinear nature of healing, emphasizing that progress often involves revisiting past layers with more resources. It offers insights into nervous system processing, the importance of rest, and personal growth within ongoing struggles.  

This episode revisits the foundational concepts of trauma and nervous system regulation, emphasizing the importance of understanding individual responses and the process of healing. It explores the science behind trauma, the window of tolerance, and practical tools like orienting to foster safety and regulation.  

Celebrating one year of the podcast 'Two Therapists Walk Into a Podcast,' Robin and Stephanie reflect on their journey, the importance of integration, and how their work has evolved. They share insights on self-reflection, growth, and community in therapy.  

This episode concludes a series exploring the complex relationship between the body, symptoms, and care. It emphasizes the importance of understanding the nervous system, the impact of healthcare interactions, and the power of feeling believed in the healing process.  

When your body feels unpredictable, it makes sense that your attention follows. In this episode, we talk about what happens when awareness turns into vigilance—when tracking symptoms, scanning for changes, and trying to stay ahead of your body becomes its own kind of exhaustion. We explore the nervous system cost of constant monitoring, why the brain leans toward control when things feel uncertain, and how to begin relating to your body with more steadiness and less pressure.

In this mini episode, Robin and Stephanie explore what it actually looks like to practice nervous system awareness in everyday life. Instead of focusing on fixing or forcing change, they talk about how small moments of noticing—your body, your reactions, your energy—can begin to shift patterns over time. They discuss how awareness creates space between reaction and response, why healing often happens through repetition and presence rather than breakthroughs, and how learning to witness yourself can become one of the most powerful tools for regulation and growth.

This episode explores the impact of baseline uncertainty on the nervous system, how it affects physical health, and practical strategies for managing unpredictability. It emphasizes understanding the biological basis of fatigue, stress, and grief in chronic conditions.  

Explore the complex interplay between gut inflammation, nervous system, and immune response, emphasizing a systems approach to health beyond simple protocols.  

This episode explores how minimization of symptoms affects mental and physical health, the importance of listening to your body, and strategies to foster self-awareness and safety in expressing concerns.  

In this episode, hosts Stephanie Edsall and Robin Green introduce a new series focused on women's health, particularly exploring the often unheard signals of the body related to autoimmune and inflammatory conditions, nervous system stress, and the effects of aging and menopause. They emphasize the importance of understanding these signals rather than minimizing them, and how early symptoms can be adaptive responses rather than signs of malfunction. The conversation encourages listeners to notice their bodies without judgment and highlights the non-linear nature of healing.  

In this final episode of the series, hosts Stephanie Edsall and Robin Green discuss the journey of finding meaning after leaving established belief systems. They explore the disorientation that can come from losing a structured sense of purpose and how spirituality can be redefined through personal experiences. The conversation emphasizes the importance of embodiment in rebuilding meaning and introduces the next series focused on autoimmune conditions in women, highlighting the often misunderstood experiences of their health.  

Summary In this episode, the hosts discuss the complexities of how our bodies respond to emotional triggers, especially after leaving significant relationships or situations. They emphasize that the nervous system retains memories of safety and danger, which can lead to unexpected reactions even after moving on. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding these responses as part of the healing process, rather than a sign of failure. Practical strategies for navigating these emotional triggers are also shared, reinforcing the idea that healing is a non-linear journey.  

In this episode, the hosts discuss the emotional and psychological costs associated with leaving belief systems, communities, or identities. They explore the complexities of attachment, the coexistence of relief and grief, and the importance of building new connections after leaving. The conversation emphasizes that leaving can be a necessary step for personal growth, even if it comes with feelings of loss and uncertainty. The hosts provide insights on how to navigate these feelings and foster a sense of belonging in new ways.  

In this episode of 'Two Therapists Walk Into A Podcast,' hosts Stephanie Edsall and Robin Green look more into the complexities of intuition and the impact of external authority on our inner signals. They discuss how repeated self-override can lead to a disconnection from one's instincts, making it difficult to trust oneself. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing and validating internal sensations without the need for interpretation or judgment, encouraging listeners to create a space for their feelings to exist as they are. The episode also offers practical tools for reconnecting with intuition, highlighting that this process is not about making immediate decisions but about fostering a deeper awareness of one's bodily sensations and responses.  

In this episode of 'Two Therapists Walk Into a Podcast', hosts Stephanie Edsall and Robin Green explore the themes of shame, obedience, and the impact of internal authority on the nervous system. They discuss how obedience can become an unconscious bodily strategy that replaces a sense of autonomy, leading to various coping mechanisms. The conversation emphasizes the importance of micro choices in rebuilding trust and internal authority, highlighting that healing is a non-linear journey.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the concept of shame, particularly how it is learned and its impact on the nervous system. They discuss the influence of purity culture on emotional regulation and how shame can manifest in the body. The conversation emphasizes that shame is not a personal flaw but a learned behavior that can affect one's sense of safety and belonging. The hosts provide insights on how to navigate feelings of shame and the importance of distinguishing between inherited moral rules and bodily signals.  

In this episode, hosts Stephanie Edsall and Robin Green introduce a new series focused on the relationship between faith, fear, safety, and the nervous system. They explore how fear can be intertwined with moral beliefs and authority, affecting personal growth and self-trust. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the nervous system's role in processing fear and the need for tools to navigate these feelings. The episode concludes with reflections on the journey of healing and the non-linear nature of personal growth.  

  In this episode, the hosts explore the concept of radical hope, emphasizing its emergence after loss and trauma. They discuss the nature of hope as a capacity rather than a mood, the importance of the nervous system in processing emotions, and the complexities of joy. The conversation highlights the role of creativity in coping and the significance of acknowledging one's experiences without the pressure to 'fix' them. The episode concludes series 6, and the episode ends with reflections on the journey of healing and the transition from survival to meaning.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the concept of hope and healing, emphasizing the importance of recognizing small moments of aliveness and safety in the healing process. They discuss how societal expectations can distort our understanding of hope and healing, and offer practical tools for grounding and presence. The conversation highlights the significance of micro doses of safety in building resilience and encourages listeners to embrace their experiences without judgment.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the themes of awakening from overwhelm, understanding response-ability, the importance of presence, co-regulation as a form of leadership, and mapping one's radius of influence. They emphasize the significance of small actions and self-awareness in reclaiming agency and navigating a chaotic world. The conversation encourages listeners to reflect on their own experiences and find clarity in their personal and shared responsibilities.  

Summary In this conversation, Stephanie and Robin explore the concept of 'freeze' as a response to overwhelming stress and trauma. They discuss how many individuals experience a collective shutdown, feeling disconnected and numb, and how this state is often misinterpreted as laziness or failure. The hosts emphasize the intelligence behind the freeze response, highlighting its role as a protective mechanism. They also introduce 'thawing rituals' as gentle ways to reconnect with oneself and navigate the journey of healing, reminding listeners that stillness can be a crucial part of the healing process.  

In this episode, we explore how the pressure to “be okay” creates a quieter form of burnout. Robin and Stephanie break down how achievement culture sneaks into the healing process—shaping our expectations, speeding up our timelines, and convincing us that growth should look linear or impressive. We talk about why so many survivors feel like they’re failing when they’re actually adapting, and how nervous system patterns can get tangled with perfectionism, productivity, and the constant push to improve. You’ll hear real examples, gentle science, and a steady reminder: healing isn’t a performance. It’s a return to yourself.

In this episode of 'Two Therapists Walk Into A Podcast', the hosts explore the themes of collective trauma, safety, and the search for hope in an unstable world. They discuss the privilege associated with safety, the importance of calm amidst chaos, and how systemic stress impacts our ability to regulate emotions. The conversation emphasizes redefining success through presence and connection rather than productivity, and highlights the significance of micro acts of repair in healing. Ultimately, the episode encourages listeners to recognize their worth and the shared nature of calm in a chaotic world.  

  In this episode, the hosts explore the concept of collective trauma and its impact on individuals and communities. They discuss the importance of recognizing shared experiences of stress and grief, and how these feelings manifest in our bodies. The conversation emphasizes the significance of collective regulation, where safety and empathy can spread among groups, and highlights the power of small gestures of care in fostering connection and resilience. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of recognizing moments of shared humanity amidst collective pain.  

In this episode of 'Two Therapists Walk Into a Podcast', hosts Robin Green and Stephanie Edsall explore the intricate dynamics of love, protection, and emotional healing, particularly in the context of men's mental health. They discuss how defense mechanisms can hinder connection and the importance of repair in relationships. The conversation emphasizes the ripple effect of men's healing on families and communities, advocating for compassion and accountability in navigating emotional landscapes.  

In this episode, the hosts discuss the invisible battles that men face, emphasizing that these struggles often manifest in ways that are not immediately recognizable. They explore how behaviors like irritability and withdrawal can be signs of deeper issues such as depression and anxiety. The conversation highlights the importance of awareness and gentle naming of emotions to foster understanding and connection. The episode concludes with a reminder that healing is a journey, not a linear process.  

In this episode, Robin Green and Stephanie Edsall delve into the pressing issue of male loneliness, exploring its roots in societal expectations and the nervous system's response to emotional stress. They discuss the importance of emotional connection and provide practical tools for men to enhance their emotional skills and relationships. The conversation emphasizes that loneliness is a signal for connection and capacity, and highlights the need for men to develop steadiness, care, and respect in their partnerships.    

  In this episode, the hosts explore the limitations of logic, especially in the context of men's emotional experiences. They discuss how reliance on logic can mask deeper feelings and lead to confusion when emotions overwhelm. The conversation delves into the biological responses of the nervous system during perceived threats and offers practical tools, such as the wall push, to help reset the body and reconnect with emotions. The episode emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and vulnerability in navigating emotional challenges.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the complexities of anger, particularly in the context of men's emotional experiences. They discuss how anger is often misunderstood and how societal norms can lead to it being the only acceptable emotion for men. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing anger as a signal rather than a destructive force, and offers practical tools for managing and understanding this powerful emotion. Through real-life examples, the hosts illustrate how anger can be a guide to deeper values and needs, encouraging listeners to embrace and work with their anger rather than fear it.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the theme of men being raised to disappear emotionally due to cultural and familial influences. They discuss the implications of emotional absence in childhood and how it manifests in adulthood, emphasizing the importance of recognizing and valuing presence over performance in relationships. The conversation highlights strategies for unlearning these patterns and fostering emotional awareness and connection.  

In this episode, the hosts introduce a new series focused on men's emotional health. They discuss how societal expectations often lead men to suppress their emotions and provide tools for fostering deeper connections and communication. The episode highlights the significance of acknowledging quiet expressions of care and the impact of recognition on men's emotional well-being.  

In this episode, the hosts discuss the importance of navigating hard conversations and provide practical scripts to help listeners communicate effectively. They emphasize the role of emotional regulation in communication and reflect on the themes of the series, including emotional unparenting and the need for understanding in relationships. The episode concludes series 4, with a teaser for the next series 5 focusing on men's emotional health.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the intricate relationship between self-trust and interpersonal connections. They discuss how early experiences shape our ability to trust ourselves and others, the importance of recognizing and honoring our needs, and the role of the nervous system in forming healthy relationships. Through practical tools and personal anecdotes, they emphasize the journey of healing from chaos and the significance of self-reflection in building a more secure sense of self.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the concept of being "emotionally un-parented" and its impact on the relationship with oneself. They discuss the importance of self-repair, practical steps to reconnect with oneself, and coping tools like the mirror moment. The conversation emphasizes the significance of consistency in self-care and the non-linear nature of healing.

In this episode, the hosts discuss the complexities of sensitivity and emotional needs, particularly for those who are neurodivergent. They explore the impact of having emotions dismissed in childhood, the survival mechanism of masking, and the journey towards unmasking and rebuilding self-trust. The conversation emphasizes the importance of honoring one's sensitivity as a strength and provides practical tools for self-care and emotional regulation.  

In this episode, the hosts explore the themes of emotional immaturity and parentification, discussing how these experiences shape individuals into caretakers from a young age. They discuss the impact of hypervigilance on adult relationships and provide tools for healing and re-parenting. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing one's emotional needs, as well as looking ahead to discussions on sensitivity and unmasking.