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The One Question to Test if a TPA Is Actually Independent, With Kimberly Carleson

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Level Funding Is Self-funding: 5 Avoidable Contract Risks, With Frank Pennachio

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Why Avoidable ER Visits Aren't the Real Cost Problem: Revisiting Our Interview With HHS Nominee Chris Klomp

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Slaying the Three-Headed Monster of Health Plan Networks, With Evan Anderson

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A Wildly Underappreciated Point: Overpaying for Infusions Means Overpaying for Stop-Loss Coverage, With Jake Velie and Keith Hartman, RPh

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How Stark Law, Stipends, and Noncompetes Drive Hospital Consolidation, With Eric Bricker, MD

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Private Equity in Primary Care: What the Data Actually Shows, With Yashaswini Singh, PhD. Episode 528.

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Why Should a Plan Sponsor Care About the 340B Charity Program? With Shawn Gremminger

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Mark Cuban and Cora Opsahl: The Truth About Pass-Through PBM Contracts and Generic Compliance Ratios

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PMPM vs FFS—The Perverse Incentives Plan Sponsors Sometimes Miss, With Cristin Dickerson, MD

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Beating Provider Network Pricing Games by Thinking About Buying Healthcare Like a Manufacturer Supply Chain, With John Quinn

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The Sleeping Giants of Healthcare—Why Self-insured Employers and Clinicians Keep Missing Each Other, With Suhas Gondi, MD, MBA. EP523

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How GoodRx Actually Makes Money: PBMs, Cash Prices, and Pharmacy Contracts, With Ge Bai, PhD, CPA (EP522)

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How Revenue Cycle Management (RCM) Became an Over $200 Billion Healthcare Hot Potato, With Andrew Tsang. EP521

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Cash-Pay Generic Drugs Are a Functioning Market in Healthcare—Policymakers Beware and Be Careful. EP520

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Cognitive Atrophy and Referral Incentives Breaking Primary Care, With Lisa Rosenbaum, MD (EP519)

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How Do You Explain the Difference Between an ASO Vendor and a TPA? With Claire Brockbank. Episode 518

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Prior Authorizations & Pharma Rebate Contracts — How Financial Motives Keep Generics Off Formularies (EP517)

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Cash Pay From the Pharma Manufacturer Point of View, With Ophelia Johnson (EP516)

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Self-Insured Employers: SNF Fraud or Perverse Incentives? Understaffing, Gamed STAR Ratings, and Medicare Dollars at Skilled Nursing Facilities with Michelle Cera. EP515

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Successfully Suing a Health System for Their Anticompetitive Contracts and Also Collecting Damages for Plan Sponsors and Members, With Matt Cantor. EP514

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Revisiting Cunning Anticompetitive Hospital Contracts, With Brennan Bilberry - EP513

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3 Kinds of Broker/EBC Rent-Seeking Payment Models—A Lawyer's Perspective, With Doug Aldeen. EP512

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The Perverse Incentive Trap Hidden Inside Value-Based Care — and What to Do About It. EP511

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Why Employers Pay More Because of Vertically Integrated Medicare Advantage Carriers with Betsy Seals. EP510

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The 7.7% Wake-Up Call: A Roadmap to Align Finance Teams With Non-complacent Benefit Design, With Patrick Nelli. EP509

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Why Don't More Self-insured CEOs Take Bold Action in Health Benefits Strategy? With Lee Lewis. (EP508)

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4 Core Concepts to Buy or Deliver the Highest Value Healthcare — A Review With 14 Expert Voices (EP507)

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Price Transparency Data: How Employers, Shareholders, and Clinics Use It, With Jerry DiMaso (EP506)

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The Death of the "What Is Value" Guessing Game for Clinical and Plan Decision-Makers Ready to Move On, With Ahilan Sivaganesan, MD (EP505)

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A Back-to-Basics Roadmap Through the Perverse Incentives to Advanced Primary Care, With Ryan Jacobs (EP504)

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Insights to Outwit the Hot Mess of the Non-Healthcare Market (INBW46)

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From Lazy PPO Networks to Smart Collaboration — A Roadmap for Direct-to-Employer Specialty Care. EP503

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How Some Pretty Wild Medicare Fraud Sabotages ACOs and Also Independent Practices and Could Cost Plan Sponsors Such as Self-insured Employers a Lot of Zeros Downstream, With Brian Machut. (EP502)

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Speaking of Infusions, Do You Want to Pay $135 or Do You Want to Pay $13,560 for the Exact Same Drug? With Ivana Krajcinovic, PhD. EP501

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Why the Commercial Carrier Market Never Changes — Six Reasons There Is No Market. Take 2 of EP398

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EP500: This Is Episode 500, and It's All About You, Tribe

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Self-insured Employers and Other Plan Sponsors Are Paying Millions for MSK (Musculoskeletal) Injuries That Would Have Healed Themselves, With Jay Kimmel, MD. EP499

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The Payment Integrity Arms Race—RCM (Revenue Cycle Management) and Plan Sponsors, With Mark Noel (EP498)

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The "Just Spend Everything You're Given" Trap—Lessons in True Provider Fiscal Discipline, With Gary Campbell

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What You Don't Know About Healthcare Transactions and Clearinghouses Could Cost You, With Zack Kanter

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Plan Sponsors Spend About $1.20 to Buy $1 of Healthcare, and Clinical Organizations Receive 80¢ for Every $1.20 Spent, With Mark Newman

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2025 Year-End Themes, Part 2: The Two Things That Have to Change for Any of the Rest of It to Work

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INBW44: The Relentless Health Value Themes That We Covered Throughout 2025—A Recap, Part 1

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Encore! EP450: When Your Health Plan Is $9 Million in the Hole, Who Are You Going to Call? A CPA. And Tell Them to Bring Their Spreadsheets, With Marilyn Bartlett, CPA, CMA, CFM, CGMA

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The Measurement Trap: Why We Track Healthcare Costs and Outcomes Exactly Backwards with Dr. Mick Connors. EP495

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Six Tensions of Pharmaceutical Drug Pricing, With Sarah Emond of ICER. EP494

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Bonus Add-on for EP494: ICER and the Pharma Pricing Arms Race, With Sarah Emond

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INBW43: Five Baskets of Thank Yous to Hand Out, Along With a Plug for Big Demand Curve Energy

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Direct Contracts and the ECEN High-Value Network Model, Take Two EP240: With Olivia Ross

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What Employer CEOs Are Figuring Out About Healthcare Costs Right Now, With John Quinn. EP493

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How to Run a High-Quality Hospital at 143% of Medicare, With Dr. Sam Flanders and Shane Cerone

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The PBGH Transparency Demonstration Project and What It Means for TPAs, Consultants, and Employers

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3 Problematic Hospital Myths: There Is No Healthcare Market, With Shane Cerone and Dr. Sam Flanders. EP490

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How Margin and Mission Work Together at a Multispecialty Group, With Dan Greenleaf of Duly. EP489 Part 2

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How Mission Becomes a Path to Margin at a Multispecialty Group, With Dan Greenleaf of Duly. EP489 Part 1

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Mark Cuban and Cora Opsahl on Trust, Simplicity, High Deductibles, and Direct Contracting. EP488

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Detective Skills for Following the Healthcare Dollar, Part 2 With Kevin Lyons of the NJ State PBA. EP487 Part 2

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A Former Police Detective Investigates the 3 Big Barriers to the Public Sector Getting Better Affordable Health Benefits, With Kevin Lyons. EP487 Part 1

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How to Operationalize Direct Contracting and Bundled Payments, With Dr. Stan Schwartz of ZERO.health. EP486

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Why Imaging Is 6-11% of Plan Spend and How Direct Contracting Fixes It, With Dr. Cristin Dickerson. EP485

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TPA and Health Plan Inertia: What Self-Insured Employers Need to Know, With Elizabeth Mitchell

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3 Burning Questions Every Self-Insured Employer Should Be Asking Right Now, With Dave Chase. EP484

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Reversing the Healthcare Cost Flywheel: From Discounts to Better Member Health, With Jonathan Baran. EP483 Part 2

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How the Healthcare Cost Flywheel Works — and Why It Keeps Spinning, With Jonathan Baran. EP483 Part 1

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Bonus Add-on: Honoring Those in Healthcare Who Are Trying Every Day to Do the Right Thing, With Jonathan Baran

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How Margin Shoves Mission Off the Bus: A Primary Care Case Study, With Dr. Stan Schwartz

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3 Surprising Ways Carriers Make Lots of Money, With Preston Alexander of The Healthcare Breakdown. EP482

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Take Two: EP445: What Does It Take for an Indie Primary Care Practice to Survive Right Now? With Tom X. Lee, MD

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Bonus Clip: Dr. Tom Lee Talks About Why Retail Clinics Are Not Doing So Well, in His Opinion

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EP481: Seriously, IRL, What Does "No Margin, No Mission" Even Mean? With Benjamin Schwartz, MD, MBA

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Take Two: EP438: Is It Mission and/or Margin? With John Lee, MD

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Payment Integrity Meets Health System Boasts, Such as Our Rates Are 2x Medicare, With Kimberly Carleson. EP480

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The Rebate Wall: Why Chasing Pharma Rebates Can Block Better Patient Care with Ann Lewandowski - Summer Short

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What Could Go Wrong Covering High-Cost Claimants With Stop-Loss Reinsurance? EP479.

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Take Two: EP433: The Mystery of the Weekly Claims Wire, With Justin Leader

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EP478: Stop-Loss Coverage, Part 1: How It Goes Right, and How It Can Go Horribly Wrong, With Andreas Mang and Jon Camire

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Through Line Show: What the Tribe Thinks You Need to Know About Trust or It's Gonna Be a Problem. Also, Why You Are Smart, With Stacey Richter

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How to Earn Trust in Healthcare: Four Principles That Actually Work. Bonus Add-on to EP477 with Charles Green

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Talking Whistleblowing and the Pharma Rebates Whistleblower Case With an Actual Whistleblower, With Ann Lewandowski. EP476

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Is This a Moment or a Movement? Three Forces Reshaping Healthcare With Peter Hayes. EP475

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Private Equity in Healthcare—The Big Data Points You Really Need to Know, All Together in One Episode, With Yashaswini Singh, PhD. EP474

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How Trusted Primary Care Relationships Keep Patients Out of the ER — and Lower Plan Costs. EP473

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How Hospitals Engineer $800,000 Claims and What Plan Sponsors Can Do About It. EP472

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EP471: High-Cost Claimants in 2025 and Beyond—What Is Really Expensive Not to Know? With Christine Hale, MD, MBA

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EP470: Continuing the ER and Primary Care Through Line Over to Rural Hospitals and Healthcare, With Nikki King, DHA

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EP469 (Part 2): The Impact on Plan Sponsors of Medicare Site-Neutral Payments and HSA Reforms, With James Gelfand, JD

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EP469 (Part 1): The Impact on Plan Sponsors of Medicaid Cuts, With James Gelfand, JD

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EP468: Very Common Assumptions That Aren't Actually True About Member Engagement and the Healthcare Industry, With Matt McQuide

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EP467: Connecting Sky-High ER Spend to Primary Care Access—Following the Dollar Through Carriers and Hospitals, With Stacey Richter

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EP466: What Is Rising Faster, Insurance Premiums or Hospital Prices? With Vivian Ho, PhD

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EP465: The Not Super Effective Contracting Industry Norm, Where Jumbo Plans and Others Wind Up Paying $10,000 for $50 Drugs, With Chris Crawford

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EP464: ER Visits Now 6% of Total Plan Spend. Is It Upcoding or What? With Al Lewis

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EP463: Medicare Advantage Policies—Which Will Stay and Which Will Go Now? With Betsy Seals

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Encore! EP384: How Shareholders Impact Carrier Behavior, Exactly and Specifically, With Wendell Potter

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EP462: Managing Populations of Whole, Actual People Who Are Not the Sum of a Bunch of Different Body Parts, With Scott Conard, MD

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INBW42: A Philosophical Rabbit Hole of Considerations for Plan Sponsors and Others

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EP461: Pick Only One, Plan Sponsors: Do You Want to Control GLP-1 Volume or Control GLP-1 Unit Cost? With Chris Crawford

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How Disruptors Can Scale to 99% of Americans: A Theory of Change for Healthcare with Rushika Fernandopulle, MD. EP460

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EP459: Cost Containment by Co-Pay Maximizer or Co-Pay Accumulator: Points to Ponder, With Bill Sarraille