The Change

In this season four finale, Cathy and Laura delve into the complex and often controversial topic of weight loss, particularly in midlife. They discuss the impact of reality TV shows like 'The Biggest Loser' on body image, the role of celebrity endorsements in promoting weight loss drugs, and the societal pressures that women face regarding their bodies. They discuss the Netflix documentary ‘Fit for TV: The Reality of The Biggest Loser’ which you can watch here. The discussion highlights the need for honest conversations about health and the challenges of navigating weight loss in a world that often equates beauty with worth.Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Cathy and Laura as they sit down with Jane Hollier, the writer behind the poignant Substack series "Letters to My Dead Mum."In this episode, Jane shares her journey through a conservative religious upbringing, the complexities of family estrangement, and the healing power of writing. Discover how Jane navigated her mother's remarriage, the blending of families, and her path to self-discovery.Guest: Jane HollierJane Hollier is the writer behind the sometimes funny, sometimes serious, and always awkward Substack, Letters to my Dead Mum. In this series Jane explores heartbreak, religion, blended families, and the complex grief of losing an estranged parent. Jane has been a freelance writer for 15 years. She has a daughter, two cats, and a beloved house plant called Donna. Read Jane’s Substack ‘Letters to My Dead Mum’Follow Jane on InstagramHosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Laura and Cathy chat with Samantha Thomas, a former media professional and TV producer turned life coach, about her transformative journey. From the bustling newsrooms of Paris to the serene wellness retreats of Phuket, Sam shares her experiences of navigating career changes, overcoming personal challenges, and finding her true calling in mental fitness coaching.Sam delves into choosing a career in TV and media as a coping mechanism and creative outlet. She shares how she flew to Paris to work in a 24/7 newsroom and the challenges and rewards that came with it. Sam describes transitioning from media to her current work in coaching and her passion for helping others achieve mental fitness.Guest: Samantha ThomasSamantha Thomas is a life coach and founder of Mynd Gym, dedicated to promoting mental and emotional fitness. With a rich background in media, Sam now focuses on empowering individuals to embrace change and live fulfilling lives. She also happens to be our amazing podcast producer!https://www.myndgym.life/

Join Laura and Cath for an incredibly honest chat with the amazing Sarah MacDonald –a voice you'll know from ABC Sydney and Triple J! Sarah peels back the curtain on her incredibly full life, candidly sharing how she balances being a mum to young adults, a wife, and a dedicated caregiver to aging parents, illuminating the demands of the "sandwich generation."Sarah dives into her exhilarating "year of play," exploring new career paths after a significant professional shift. A true Gemini, she thrives on change, and you'll love hearing about her exciting new venture: writing a musical! We tackle the big questions: the future of media in the age of AI, the timeless power of storytelling, and how to combat burnout. Don't miss Sarah's liberating take on midlife and "invisibility" – she sees it as her new superpower, opening doors to freedom and unexpected opportunities!Guest: Sarah MacDonald https://www.instagram.com/sarah.macdonald.insta/Links: https://linktr.ee/sarahmacpeacelovestrengthhttps://www.violet.org.au/Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

We have an absolutely unmissable conversation with the phenomenal Hannah Vanderheide! Laura and Cath sit down with this multi-talented force – an incredible actor, writer, and voice artist – as she shares her story. Hannah bravely shares the seismic shifts and personal challenges she faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, giving us an intimate look at how it reshaped her creative path. She also speaks candidly about her incredibly resilient health journey, navigating complex diagnoses like Graves' and Addison's disease while fiercely pursuing her passions.The discussion then dives into the hot-button topic of AI's evolving role in the writing industry, exploring its potential impacts on creators. Hannah powerfully emphasizes the bedrock importance of community support in her career, revealing how connections have been her constant lifeline.This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in creativity, resilience, and the ever-changing landscape of the arts!Guest: Hannah Vanderheide https://www.instagram.com/han.vee/Links: https://www.hannahvanderheide.com/Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Laura and Cathy chat to money expert and writer Sarah Megginson to discuss the significant financial challenges women face, particularly in midlife. They discuss the impact of the gender pay gap, unconscious bias, and the effects of peri and menopause on income. Sarah emphasises the importance of financial education and awareness, sharing practical tips for managing finances and advocating for better support systems for families. The discussion also touches on Sarah’s personal experience acting as a surrogate for Lisa Messenger and the positive and surprising impact it has had on her life.Guest: Sarah Megginson of Money MargaritaLinks:State of women’s wealth report Sarah Megginson’s book co written with Lisa Messenger, The Power of TwoThe Byron Bay Writers Festival Tickets Mentions: Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Cathy and Laura chat to Claire Mason who has recently been through a lot of change. Claire shares her transformative journey of sobriety, the challenges and joys of caring for her ageing father, and her aspirations for the future beyond her career as a flight attendant.She discusses the importance of self-love and acceptance, especially during life changes such as perimenopause. Claire emphasises the beauty in caring for aging parents - her dad’s viral Reel - and the need for open conversations about end-of-life experiences. About Claire: Claire Mason is a flight attendant, content creator, carer, and storyteller sharing real, raw moments from her solo, sober life. From viral Reels to caregiving insights, she creates content that connects, uplifts, and empowers always grounded in authenticity and humour.Follow Claire’s journey on Instagram here and check out her podcast Booze Free Bants hereMentions: Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

In this enlightening conversation with Cathy and Laura, Dr. Fatima Khan shares her extensive knowledge on women's health, focusing on the transitions of puberty, pregnancy and in particular perimenopause, and menopause. She emphasizes the importance of understanding hormonal changes and their impact on mental health, advocating for a holistic approach that includes nutrition, stress management, and self-care. Dr. Khan discusses the societal pressures women face and the need for self-compassion and connection with others. She provides practical strategies for navigating these life stages, encouraging women to prioritise their well-being and embrace the changes they experience.With thanks to Dr Fatima Khan.Visit her website hereFollow her on Instagram hereHosts:Cathy O’Brien Laura Jackel Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Join Cathy and Laura as they open up about unexpected curveballs life threw their way leading up to Season Four. From grappling with unexpected evacuations to navigating the depths of mental health struggles. They lay bare the raw, emotional toll of profound change. Discover why leaning on community support became their lifeline and how, even in our hyper-connected world, finding genuine balance is more crucial than ever. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a testament to resilience and the power of connection in the face of unseen battles.Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas https://www.instagram.com/samanthalthomas_/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Sophie Scott from Season 3 Episode 2Catch the best bits from our powerful chat with Sophie Scott OAM! Hear her firsthand experience surviving burnout after years as a medical reporter and her crucial advice on self-care and building healthy habits in midlife.Links for more about Sophie Scott OAM:Website YouTubeInstagram 2024 ShowreelBuy Sophie’s book  'Beat High Functioning Anxiety'Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Jayne McCartney from Season 3 Episode 6 Enjoy the best moments from Cath and Laura's conversation with sexologist Jayne McCartney. This minisode touches on the importance of communication at all life stages, the variations in midlife sexuality, and Jayne's passionate advocacy for better support during milestones like menopause.With thanks to Jayne McCartney. Jayne McCartney’s instagram Jayne McCartney website Mentions: Come As You Are by Dr. Emily MetkoskiWelcome to Sex by Dr Melissa Kang & Yumi Stynes Scarlet teen website Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Amanda Ramsay from Season 3 Episode 4 Relive some of the best moments from our chat  with Amanda Ramsay, your "ageless beauty bestie" and makeup artist specializing in women over 40. This minisode captures Amanda's inspiring career journey in the beauty industry and dives into her key insights. Hear about the pivotal moment that shifted her perspective on midlife makeup, even after years in the business. Plus, get a taste of her encouraging advice on experimenting with your look and the uplifting power of simple beauty routines.With thanks to Amanda Ramsay. Amanda Ramsay’s instagram Amanda Ramsay website Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Kerryn Mayne from Season 3 Episode 9 Cathy and Laura catch up with the inspiring Kerryn Mayne. We discuss the realities of balancing life as a police officer, mother of four (including twins!), and author. Hear Kerryn's insights on the challenges and her strategies for finding time to write.With thanks to Kerryn Mayne. Kerryn Mayne’s instagram Kerryn Mayne websiteHosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Tracey Williams from Season 1 Episode 2Why do some people thrive on change while others struggle? Get the key insights from Cathy and Laura's conversation with clinical psychologist Tracey Williams. Discover the psychology behind our reactions to change and learn how to "flip the script" – even in tough times.Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Kat Taylor from Season 3 Episode 8.Kat Taylor, Season 2 winner of Ch9’s Parental Guidance sits down with Cath and Laura to have a hilarious chat about the roller coaster of peri/menopause, parenting and everything in between. Kat talks about the need for safe spaces for women to share their experiences and support each other. We talk about Kat’s experience with perimenopause and the challenges she has faced. Including the emotional breakdown she had while searching for a sentimental book, which led her to discover that she was in the thick of perimenopause. With thanks to Kat Taylor. Kat Taylor's InstagramKat Taylor’s TikTokMentions and fabulous menopause resources:Dr Fatima Khan - Menopause Specialist Dr Ginni Mansberg Dr Mary ClaireDr Naomi PotterDr Jen Hacker PearsonDr Louise Newsome - Menopause DoctorDr Ceri CashellKaz CookeHosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Anna Grosman from Season 2 Episode 5.This week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman. Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women. Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact, she’ll be the reassuring voice you’ll hear on the phone if and when you decide to book an appointment! Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Guest: Anna Grosman https://www.instagram.com/herconfidant/https://herconfidant.com.auAudio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This minisode is an edit from our full interview Faye and Lauren Browne from Season 3 Episode 3.Faye and Lauren Browne, founders of Motto Fashions, discuss their journey in the fashion industry and the importance of feeling confident and empowered through fashion. They emphasise the need to break free from societal expectations and embrace personal style at any age. At age 70, Motto founder Faye shares how she still loves to experiment and have fun with her clothes, inspiring and encouraging women around Australia to feel good and wear what they love.The women chat about the power of fashion to transform and uplift and why Motto’s ‘F*** IT’ era campaign challenges ageism and encourages women to be true to themselves at every age.With thanks to Faye and Lauren Browne of Motto Fashions. Find out more about them via Instagram or online:Lauren BrowneFaye BrowneMotto Fashions Website Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Steph De Sousa from Season 3 Episode 11.Steph, a former contestant on MasterChef, discusses her experience on the show and her journey to becoming a successful social media influencer. Cath and Laura ask Steph all the pervy questions about the audition process for MasterChef, her favourite Aldi centre aisle purchase and the lessons she learned about being her authentic self. Steph explains how she has built a large following on social media by creating relatable and easy-to-follow cooking content and her exciting plans coming soon!! And of course we ask Steph about her menopause journey.With thanks to Steph de Sousa. Steph de Sousa’s instagram Easy Recipe Gang websiteMentions: Air Fryer Queen by Steph de Sousa Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Georgia Van Cuylenburg from Season 2 episode 9Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience. While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects.Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events.Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship. Hosts:Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/Guest: Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/Audio Producer: Samantha Thomas Support Services: Lifeline 13 11 141800RESPECT 1800 737 732Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help13YARN 13 92 76 Butterfly Foundation Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673Blue KnotThis is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week.Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277Bravehearts Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuseInformation & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays).If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately.

In our last episode for the Summer Series we discuss the significance of Australia Day, reflecting on its implications for Indigenous communities and the discomfort surrounding the holiday.  We celebrate the Australian of the Year Awards, highlighting individuals who have made significant contributions to society.  Laura shares a fabulous Guardian article with an extract from Naomi Watt’s book “Dare I Say It”. We explore our thoughts on the drive for personal growth and ambition balanced with retirement aspirations.  We round out our Summer Series discussing Cath’s personal reflection on my mental health journey, highlighting the importance of support and awareness, significant cultural events of 2015, and the evolution of music and media.  Mentions:  Australian of the Year 2025 The Guardian: Naomi Watts on movies, midlife and menopause: ‘You are hot, and then you are not’ Liz Gumbiner: We can’t get overwhelmed Triple J Hottest 100 1989  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Cathy and Laura talk about the current state of the world and the phenomenon some are referring h to as a ‘doom loop’. We unpack what that is and why we think the cause is all wrong.  We also discuss a brilliant article about the tech bros and their friends ruling the world and why this is not only hugely problematic but oh so cringe.  And it’s not all bad news - we look back at 2005 - the year of YouTube, Mariah Carey and Harry Potter mayhem.  Mentions:  Are we in a ‘Doom loop’ news article  -I knew powerful men would take over the world but I didn’t expect them to be such losers - guardian article by Rebecca Shaw -Mom Life Comics on how women can bring ‘Masculine Energy’ to the office.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

In episode 2 of our summer series, we discuss the increasing visibility and representation of older women in media, particularly after the Golden Globes earlier this month. How good was Demi Moore’s speech?! We also celebrate the achievements of us ‘normal’ women over 50, and look at some Aussie influencers going viral.  We reflect on the current state of the world, especially the horrific wildfires in LA - and express concerns about cultural shifts and the influence of technology on mental health. Amidst the chaos however, we chat about the importance of finding hope and taking action at a community level. The discussion also delves into nostalgia for the 80s and 90s, contrasting simpler times with today's complexities, particularly regarding technology and parenting!  Mentions:  Golden Globes Awards 2025 - Demi Moore’s win described in Women’s Agenda The Project Channel 10 - Ginger and Carman clip Matt Haig on Instagram  Loryn Brantz on Instagram  In case you missed it - Spotify playlist - The Change 1985 Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

From Y2K fears to 2025 goals, Cathy and Laura explore 25 years of change. We discuss evolving New Year's resolutions and embrace aging. Personal aspirations include reading more and new career paths. Meghan Markle's social media comeback and cooking show are also on the agenda and we have opinions!! Twenty years on from the Boxing Day tsunami, we remember the devastation and celebrate improved warning systems. Then, it's a blast to the past, reliving the iconic movies and music of the vibrant 80s! Mentions:  Netflix trailer - With love, Meghan Spotify playlist - The Change 1985 ABC - I was actually there  Disney+ - National Geographic Tsunami: Race Against Time  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This January, join Cathy and Laura for a bite-sized summer treat! From uplifting stories to their take on the not-so-great news items and maybe even a little WTF moment or two! Expect plenty of laughs, juicy gossip and a sprinkle of summer recommendations. It’s the perfect way to catch up, stay in the know, and enjoy some light-hearted chats during your holiday break. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

In this episode, the last of season three, Cathy and Laura reflect on the highlights of their podcasting year, discussing memorable guests and emotional moments.  As they approach the holiday season, they share their experiences with gift-giving, family dynamics, and the emotional load that comes with it, ultimately seeking to create new traditions that prioritise community over materialism.  Recommendations: TV -  The Last of Us on Binge Podcast - Legacy Book - The List by Yomi Adegoke  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

We couldn't get enough of Gina so we're bringing you this very special extended cut video version of Season 3, Episode 12 -Enjoy! --- Gina Chick has had her share of grief, discomfort and growth. She once sat literally alone with it all for 67 days in the Tasmanian wilderness to be the winner of Season 1 of Alone. In her incredible recently released book “We Are the Stars” Gina shares her journey from childhood wonder to navigating the complexities of adulthood and motherhood.  In this episode we talk to Gina about the importance of reconnecting with our inner child, the natural rhythms of life, while also addressing the grief and letting go that comes with motherhood. We talk about the need for women to embrace their power and navigate societal expectations during this transformative phase of life.  Laura, Cathy and Gina delve into the nature of grief, highlighting its transformative power and the necessity of allowing oneself to feel and process emotions fully. Through storytelling and shared experiences, we illustrate the interconnectedness of love, loss, and the human experience. This is an episode NOT to be missed.  With our deepest thanks and gratitude to Gina.  Gina Chick's Instagram Mentions:  We Are the Stars by Gina Chick Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Gina Chick has had her share of grief, discomfort and growth. She once sat literally alone with it all for 67 days in the Tasmanian wilderness to be the winner of Season 1 of Alone. In her incredible recently released book “We Are the Stars” Gina shares her journey from childhood wonder to navigating the complexities of adulthood and motherhood.  In this episode we talk to Gina about the importance of reconnecting with our inner child, the natural rhythms of life, while also addressing the grief and letting go that comes with motherhood. We talk about the need for women to embrace their power and navigate societal expectations during this transformative phase of life.  Laura, Cathy and Gina delve into the nature of grief, highlighting its transformative power and the necessity of allowing oneself to feel and process emotions fully. Through storytelling and shared experiences, we illustrate the interconnectedness of love, loss, and the human experience. This is an episode NOT to be missed.  With our deepest thanks and gratitude to Gina.  Gina Chick's Instagram Mentions:  We Are the Stars by Gina Chick Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Steph, a former contestant on MasterChef, discusses her experience on the show and her journey to becoming a successful social media influencer.  Cath and Laura ask Steph all the pervy questions about the audition process for MasterChef, her favourite Aldi centre aisle purchase and the lessons she learned about being her authentic self.  Steph explains how she has built a large following on social media by creating relatable and easy-to-follow cooking content and her exciting plans coming soon!!  And of course we ask Steph about her menopause journey. With thanks to Steph de Sousa.  Steph de Sousa’s instagram  Easy Recipe Gang website Mentions:  Air Fryer Queen by Steph de Sousa  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

In this bonus conversation, Cathy and Laura do a debrief on what just happened in the US now that Trump has been voted in… again.  They reflect on how the result is making them and women around the world feel and the scary emboldening of far right extremists and misogynists.  The discussion delves into why it’s important to check your privilege and some hopeful thoughts about what’s ahead for Australia.   Recommendations:  Leigh Sales article on why the Democrats lost Article explainer on the 4B movement  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

In this conversation, Cathy and Laura reconnect after five weeks apart, sharing personal updates about their lives, including challenges faced during travels, the impact of grief and their big feelings about the current U.S. election. In this episode’s change chat ‘big theme’, Cathy and Laura explore the complexities of ageing, nostalgia, and the generational shifts in identity and relevance.  They reflect on the physical and mental challenges of ageing, and the bittersweet nature of facing inevitable losses while also still trying to look forward to joyful moments.  The discussion delves into the feeling of suddenly becoming the 'adult in the room' and the struggle to maintain relevance in a youth-centric culture.  Sherri Dindal - Gen X content creator and comic  The Holderness Family ‘Everyone Forgets About Gen X’  Recommendations:  Firebrand Movie with Jude Law The Diplomat with Keri Russell Wifedom by Anna Funder We are the Stars by Gina Chick Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Cathy and Laura chat with Kerryn about her busy life as a police officer, mother of four, and author. They discuss the challenges of raising twins, dealing with intrusive questions, and finding time to write. Kerryn shares her approach to fitting writing into her schedule, using short bursts of time and setting goals. She also talks about her inspiration for writing crime fiction and creating memorable characters.  It is a powerful interview highlighting the importance of supporting and encouraging others, as well as the power of storytelling. With thanks to Kerryn Mayne.  Kerryn Mayne’s instagram  Kerryn Mayne website Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Kat Taylor, Season 2 winner of Ch9’s Parental Guidance sits down with Cath and Laura to have a hilarious chat about the roller coaster of peri/menopause, parenting and everything in between.  Kat talks about the need for safe spaces for women to share their experiences and support each other.  We talk about Kat’s experience with perimenopause and the challenges she has faced. Including the emotional breakdown she had while searching for a sentimental book, which led her to discover that she was in the thick of perimenopause.  With thanks to Kat Taylor.  Kat Taylor's Instagram Kat Taylor’s TikTok Mentions and fabulous menopause resources: Dr Fatima Khan - Menopause Specialist  Dr Ginni Mansberg  Dr Mary Claire Dr Naomi Potter Dr Jen Hacker Pearson Dr Louise Newsome - Menopause Doctor Dr Ceri Cashell Kaz Cooke Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

In this episode Belinda shares her colorful and eventful life story, from being a single mother to battling postnatal depression and breast cancer.  She discusses her journey of overcoming alcohol addiction and finding her passion for coaching and supporting women. We talk about how it is important to embrace change, support each other through life’s challenges and remember to celebrate all the stages of our lives.  With thanks to Belinda Stark.  Belinda Stark's instagram Belinda Stark website Embrace Midlife with Belinda Stark Mentions:  Sissy Mt Eliza website Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Jayne McCartney, a sexologist, shares her journey into the field and the importance of sexual exploration and self-reflection. Cath and Laura have a fabulous chat with Jayne about how sexuality can vary in midlife and the importance of communication at all stages.  Jayne is passionate about celebrating all milestones in our lives including menopause and that women need more support as we go through it.  With thanks to Jayne McCartney.  Jayne McCartney’s instagram  Jayne McCartney website  Mentions:  Come As You Are by Dr. Emily Metkoski Welcome to Sex by Dr Melissa Kang & Yumi Stynes  Scarlet teen website  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

Cath and Laura chat about all the complexities of friendship, grief, and the challenges of making connections as adults.  Cath shares that exhausting admin load that many women feel when planning a holiday.  Laura shares her emotional toll of losing a dear friend and the importance of nurturing friendships throughout life.  Cath and Laura highlight the importance of community and support during difficult times, as well as the joy and comfort that friendships bring. Article:  Making new friends when you're over 40 is hard, but this is why it's necessary - Laura Jackel Recommendations: Laura’s book - Want: Sexual Fantasies by Gillian Anderson  Cathy’s book - The Tea Chest by Josephine Moon Cathy’s TV Show - Return to Paradise ABC iView Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Laura and Cathy chat to Amanda Ramsay, the ageless beauty bestie and makeup artist for women over 40, about her career journey in the beauty industry and some of her best tips and tricks. After being asked so many questions about make-up from her female friends in their midlife, Amanda talks about the pivotal moment in a department store when she noticed how she too suddenly felt differently about makeup. Even after working in the industry! She emphasises how she still loves to experiment and have fun with her look and gives advice about just ‘trying out’ a bright lipstick or a new shade to see how it makes you feel.   The women chat about the power of good makeup and beauty routines to uplift and why it doesn’t have to be all that complicated or expensive. With thanks to Amanda Ramsay.  Amanda Ramsay’s instagram  Amanda Ramsay website  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Faye and Lauren Browne, founders of Motto Fashions, discuss their journey in the fashion industry and the importance of feeling confident and empowered through fashion.  They emphasise the need to break free from societal expectations and embrace personal style at any age. At age 70, Motto founder Faye shares how she still loves to experiment and have fun with her clothes, inspiring and encouraging women around Australia to feel good and wear what they love. The women chat about the power of fashion to transform and uplift and why Motto’s ‘F*** IT’ era campaign challenges ageism and encourages women to be true to themselves at every age. With thanks to Faye and Lauren Browne of Motto Fashions.  Find out more about them via Instagram or online: Motto Fashions  Lauren Browne Faye Browne Motto Fashions Website  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Cathy and Laura interview Sophie Scott OAM, a former medical reporter for the ABC turned author, keynote speaker and Associate Professor (Adj) at Notre Dame University.  They discuss Sophie's experience covering the COVID-19 pandemic, the challenges of health communication, and the importance of focusing on mental wellbeing.  Sophie shares her many career highlights and talks about her own experience with burnout and the need for self-care and habit-building.  Links for more about Sophie Scott OAM: Website  YouTube Instagram  2024 Showreel Buy Sophie’s book ‘Beat High Functioning Anxiety Now Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Cathy and Laura are back for season 3 with a chatty catch up on their current life happenings. Laura is feeling reflective while on a career ‘sabbatical’ as Cathy fights cyber crime* in her new job.  The duo discuss the one thing we don’t discuss often enough about midlife and why we need to do it more - if not for us, then the next generation of women! *Cathy is not actually fighting cyber crime rather she is bringing awareness to it, but this sounded bad ass.  Recommendations: Laura's podcast - The Shift with Sam Baker Laura’s book - All Fours by Miranda July  Cathy’s podcast - Anomalous by Em Rusciano Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Cathy and Laura have a quick catch up ahead of season 3 to tell you a little about what’s ahead.  Cathy also shares some big family news that brings her to tears (happy ones) and the duo discuss what it means to be a parent as the kids grow up. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Join us for our last episode and change chat for season 2.  We have had so much fun talking to incredible women this season and have a lovely chat rounding out the season.  We talk about the challenges of midlife, specifically the importance of self-kindness, rest and play!  Our change chat topic centres around older women disappearing in the workplace and the importance of creating a workplace that encourages older women to stay.  We also share a bunch of recommendations with links below.  Recommendations:  -Book - Because I'm not myself you see Ariane Beeston -Movies - Family Affair - Netflix and Anyone but you - Binge  -Podcast Bronwyn by Hedley Thomas Article links: Why midlife women walk out of corporate jobs by Laetitia Vitaud Why Menopause-Friendly Workplaces Are Better For Everybody by Holly Corbett  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses mental health, and alcoholism. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.  Talitha Cummins is likely to be a familiar name to many, most likely because she graced our tv screens reading and reporting on the news for two decades. She also had a high profile battle with alcohol.  We speak to Talitha about her journey from journalist to jeweller (which is quite the career pivot) and everything in between. We learn all about what a trunk show is and if there is any difference between lab and mined diamonds.  This is an episode not to be missed, especially if you love a bit of sparkle in your life!  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest:  Talitha Cummins https://www.instagram.com/talithacummins/ The Cut Jewellery https://www.instagram.com/thecutjewellery/ Support Serivces:  Lifeline 13 11 14 Alcoholics Anonymous 1300 222 222  Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes. Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience.  While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects. Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events. Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest:  Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/ Support Services:  Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  Butterfly Foundation  Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673 Blue Knot This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week. Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277 Bravehearts  Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays). If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes. Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience.  While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects. Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events. Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest:  Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/ Support Serivces:  Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  Butterfly Foundation  Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673 Blue Knot This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week. Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277 Bravehearts  Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays). If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trish Bolton is writer and communications professional who has just published her first novel ‘Whenever You’re Ready’ in her sixties. We talk to Trish about her writing processes, why older women have been so invisible in media, literature and pop culture, and why thanks to writers like her this is finally changing. Trish chats about the different grief we feel as we age; grief for the past versions of ourselves, for dreams that never realised, and for the planet. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Trish Bolton, author of ‘Whenever You’re Ready’ https://www.instagram.com/trishboltonwriter?igsh=MW1jZGY4aG9hem84MQ== A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: chang

This week Cathy and Laura discuss a recent article published in The Cut called ‘The Power of Discretion after 60’  Is it better to ‘dress for your age’ or dress how ever the feck you want? Laura and Cathy discuss the theory behind the article and how the ideas have played out in their own lives.  The duo also share recommendations with links below.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Recommendations:  -Heist Creative - Branding photography in Sydney and Melbourne  -Book - Mrs Winterbottom Takes a Gap Year by Joanna Nell -TV shows - Bodkin on Netflix and Morning Wars on Apple TV -Podcast episode - How to Fail with Salman Rushdie  -Instagram account - Candace Leslie Cima ‘Life in my 70s’ A big thanks to our Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses domestic and sexual violence, mental health, trauma and alcoholism. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.  Join us as we talk to Ali Anderson. She is a powerhouse who has lived many lives.  Ali is a self-described high functioning alcoholic, a mother of 3 adult daughters and a late bloomer as she calls it.  We talk about alcoholism, mental health, domestic violence and finding a way to the other side.  It is an inspiring conversation about how we are never defined by our past, it is what we do next when we realise that we are on a path that is not where we want to be.  Support Services:  Lifeline 13 11 14 1800RESPECT 1800 737 732 Alcoholics Anonymous 1300 222 222  Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help 13YARN 13 92 76  If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Ali Anderson https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-anderson1705/  Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman.  Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women.  Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact, she’ll be the reassuring voice you’ll hear on the phone if and when you decide to book an appointment!  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Anna Grosman  https://www.instagram.com/herconfidant/ https://herconfidant.com.au Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

In this episode we speak to the formidable Kylee Stone, a proud descendant of the Waka Waka and Kullili First Nations People.  Kylee is a storyteller at her core. She has re-invented herself many times throughout her life as a former Director at NewsCorp, Kylee’s career is marked by excellence in leadership development, growth, innovation and resilience.  We have a fascinating chat with Kylee about connection, reinvention and her relationship with change.  We hope you enjoy this chat with Kylee as much as we did.  Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Kylee Stone https://www.theperformancecode.co/ https://www.instagram.com/kyleejstone/  Season Sponsor: https://aliviowellness.com.au/ Use the code TheChange for 20% discount at the checkout  Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: changepod202

Anne Stephens is a teacher, mother to two sets of adult twins and now a grandmother. Some of you may know Anne as the outspoken Outlouder and mum to Jessie and Clare Stephens AKA - ‘The Twins’. Anne tells us all about the differences of raising kids in the 90s compared with now and the surprising parts of becoming a grandmother. She gives us some great career advice and notes on when to lean in or not and why our generation might just have it sorted when it comes to perimenopause. Hosts: Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/ Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/ Guest: Anne Stephens  Mentions:  The Imperfects episode with Dr Louise Newson https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dr-louise-newson-maybe-its-menopause/id1476501557?i=1000634548608 Audio Producer:  Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/ Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast.  We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review!  Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠ And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]