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Boundaryless Conversations Podcast
by Boundaryless SRL
Boundaryless Conversations Podcast is an ongoing exploration of the future of Platforms & Ecosystems. Here we explore new perspectives about how we organise at scale in a rapidly changing world.From Boundaryless SRLHosted by Simone Cicero
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#146 - Creativity Thrives on Explicit Contracts: Why Agency Needs More Structure - Clay Parker Jones
What happens when organisations make their rules of the road explicit - and people gain more room to act because of it? In this episode, Simone Cicero, co-founder of Boundaryless, joins Clay Parker Jones, Head of Org Design & Development at Airbnb, co-founder of the employee-owned consultancy...
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#145 - What Happens When Everyone Can Build Software? - with Lisa Gansky and Fabien Girardin
What happens when anyone can build software - and the people closest to the work start designing their own tools? Organisational designer and co-founder of Boundaryless, Lisa Gansky joins independent technologist and researcher Fabien Girardin to explore the rise of personal software: AI-enabled...
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#144 - How to Adapt to The World in 2050: Beyond Tomorrow - with Nikolaus Lang
One of the world's leading voices on long-range strategic thinking, Nikolaus Lang, joins us to unpack what it truly takes to prepare organisations for a world of deep uncertainty. Managing Director and Senior Partner at Boston Consulting Group and Global Leader of the BCG Henderson Institute,...
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#143 - Organising for Outcomes: Lessons from Org Topologies and 10x Orgs - with Alexey Krivitsky
Alexey Krivitsky, organisational consultant, agile pioneer, and co-creator of the Org Topologies methodology, joins us to explore why some organisations remain adaptable while others become trapped in layers of local optimisation, dependencies, and internal complexity. Drawing on insights from…
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#142 - Understanding Org Physics: The 3 faces of every company - with Niels Pflaeging
One of the world’s leading voices challenging command-and-control management, internationally recognised management thinker and founder of the BetaCodex Network, Niels Pflaeging joins us to explore how organisations can organise for complexity through decentralisation, small teams, and value...
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#141 - What happens when Coding Stops Being the Bottleneck - with Alberto Brandolini and Marco Heimeshoff
What happens when coding is no longer the bottleneck in software development? In this episode, Alberto Brandolini - creator of EventStorming and pioneer in domain-driven design - joins software engineer and Kandddinsky founder Marco Heimeshoff to explore how AI is transforming the practice of...
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#140 - Playable Enterprises - with Annika Klyver and Milan Guenther
Milan Guenther and Annika Klyver, seasoned practitioners working at the intersection of enterprise architecture, enterprise design, and organisational transformation, join this episode to explore how organisations can better describe, design, and ultimately execute how they create value in a...
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#139 - From Hierarchy to Intelligence: What does it mean? - with Andrea Gioia
What happens when AI dramatically lowers the cost of coordination inside organisations? In this episode, Andrea Gioia, Partner and CTO at Quantyca and author of Managing Data as a Product, explores how AI and new information architectures may transform the way organisations are designed and...
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#138 - Supply Chains as Complex Systems and their Organisational Implications - with Federico Marchesi
Federico Marchesi, supply chain strategist and author of the Hacking Supply Chains newsletter, joins us to explore how disruptions, variability, and global constraints are not anomalies, but structural conditions that organisations must design their supply chains for. Drawing on his experience...
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#137 - Beyond Fear: Regaining the Passion of The Explorer in our Organizations - with John Hagel
A world-renowned strategist and author, one of the pioneers of platform thinking, John Hagel, joins us on this episode. He starts the episode by sharing something profound: “I was taught to believe strategy is everything for winning. Over the years, I’ve come to realise it’s less about strategy…
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#136 - Design As Participation - with Kevin Slavin
Kevin Slavin - designer and entrepreneur working across technology, biology, and culture joins us on this episode to reflect on what it means to design within living, interconnected systems, and how technology moves forward not just through invention, but through the social and cultural…
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#135 - Transforming Bureaucracy into Software Platforms - with Jos De Blok
The name behind one of the world’s largest and most cited self-managed organisations, Jos De Blok, joins us to deep dive into what it truly takes to build complexity-aware systems without bureaucracy. Founder and CEO of Buurtzorg, the Dutch neighbourhood nursing organisation, Jos has built a…
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#134 - Agile in First Principles: Visualisation, Flow and Constraints - with Håkan Forss
What do we think about Agile beyond frameworks - and how organisations actually learn, adapt, and continuously improve? Håkan Forss, a lean and agile coach and speaker who has become legendary for his iconic Lego figures-based presentations, joins us to unpack the hidden purpose of Agile and why...
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#133 - Is Another World Possible? Transition Design - with Cameron Tonkinwise
One of the leading voices in transition design for sustainability and societal change, Cameron Tonkinwise, Professor of Design Studies at the University of Technology Sydney, joins us for a deep conversation on what design must become in an era of systemic collapse. In this episode, he speaks on...
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#132 - Enterprise Architecture: Selling Options for the Future, at a Cost - with Gregor Hohpe
Gregor Hohpe - one of the world’s leading voices in enterprise architecture and platform thinking, and author of ‘The Software Architect Elevator’, ‘Enterprise Integration Patterns’ and ‘Platform Strategy’- joins us to dive into how enterprise architecture is about navigating the tradeoffs needed...
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#131 - The Age of Potency: How Meaning, Work, and Trust Are Being Rewritten - with Jasmine Bina
What happens when work no longer guarantees reward and time itself feels unanchored? In this episode, Jasmine Bina - brand strategist, cultural futurist, and CEO of Concept Bureau - joins us to explore how meaning, culture, and value creation are being reshaped in societies and affecting our...
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#130 - Thinking Beyond the Existing Theories: Evolution in Liminal Times with Dave Gray
Dave Gray, acclaimed author and designer, joins us in this episode to explore how organisations can navigate profound technological and societal shifts by thinking outside their traditional theories. With his decades of helping organisations rethink their value architectures, and his work on...
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#129 - Why I Don’t Call it “Self-Management” Anymore - with Lisa Gill
Lisa Gill - a coach, facilitator, and host of the acclaimed Leadermorphosis podcast - joins us to explore the evolving world of self-managing organisations. Drawing on over a decade of experience and examples from companies like Buurtzorg and her own work at TUFF Leadership, Lisa speaks about…
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#128 - The Benefits of Programmable Organizations with Spencer Graham and Nicholas Naraghi (Hats Protocol)
Spencer Graham and Nicholas Naraghi, co-founders of Hats Protocol, pioneering the design and experimentation of decentralised, programmable organisations, join us in this episode to explore how these new forms of collaboration can enable new ways to organise, govern, and create value…
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#127 - Organising as World-Building: How AI & Platforms unlock Human Flourishing with Lee Bryant
A thought leader and pioneer in platforms and ecosystems, partner at Speed Invest and an instructor at Reforge, Sameer Singh joins us on this episode to reintroduce the world of platforms, challenge the idea of AI as a platform shift, and talk about what makes products truly memorable in a market...
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#126 - Network Effects, Generative AI, and Platform Shifts with Sameer Singh
A thought leader and pioneer in platforms and ecosystems, partner at Speed Invest and an instructor at Reforge, Sameer Singh joins us on this episode to reintroduce the world of platforms, challenge the idea of AI as a platform shift, and talk about what makes products truly memorable in a market...
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#125 - Growth Systems: reducing Friction to find Product Market Fit - with Sean Ellis
Sean Ellis, famously known for coining the term “growth hacking”, who has led growth at multiple unicorn-scale companies like Dropbox, Eventbrite, and LogMeIn, joins us to open Season 7 of the podcast. Reflecting on more than 15 years since the term first spread, he shares how growth hacking has...
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Season 7 of The Boundaryless Conversations Podcast | Starts Sept 30 – Innovation, AI & Ecosystems
Season 7 of the Boundaryless Conversations Podcast launches September 30th! Join global thinkers and practitioners as we explore: Platform–Ecosystem Thinking in a changing world The impact of AI on how we build products and organize at scale Emerging approaches to Regenerative Organizing and...
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#124 – How AI Restacks the System of Work with Sangeet Paul Choudary | Closing of Season 6
Sangeet Paul Choudary, globally recognised Platform Strategist and author, joins back on the Boundaryless Conversations Podcast for the 4th time. In this episode, the closing one for Season 6, we unpack how AI radically transforms the system of work. Together, we explore how organisations can…
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#123 - Leadership in Complexity: Purpose, Failure & Conflict with Jennifer Garvey Berger
Renowned author and complexity thinker Jennifer Garvey Berger, co-founder of Cultivating Leadership, joins us in this episode to explore how organisations can evolve by unlocking the mental traps that limit adaptive capacity.She helps us reframe leadership as a practice that fosters engagement…
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#122 - Regenerative Business: What Does It Mean? - with Kara Pecknold
Kara Pecknold, VP of Regenerative Design at Frog and a leading voice in sustainable innovation, joined us for a conversation on what it truly means to design for regeneration.She breaks down the challenges and opportunities of embedding regenerative thinking into organisations, helping us explore...
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#121 - Understanding Value in a GenAI Powered World with Simon Wardley
Strategic tools can help you navigate organisational and market complexities. But how do you even begin to make sense of it all?In this episode, Simon Wardley, the creator of Wardley Mapping and one of the most profound thinkers and influencers in strategy, explains the power of mapping complex...
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#120 - Stackable Business Models: Startup Strategy in the AI-Native Era with Pete Flint
Pete Flint, General Partner at NFX and founder of Trulia, joins us for an expansive conversation on how AI is reshaping the foundations of entrepreneurship, platform economies, network effects, and defensibility strategies. Drawing from his deep experience as both a founder and an investor, Pete...
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#119 - Working with Source: Acknowledging the Creative Hierarchy with Tom Nixon
In this episode, we welcome Tom Nixon, author of Work with Source, to explore the powerful yet often overlooked idea of “source” - as the person who first conceives and commits to a creative initiative - and the impact such a role has on organizations. Drawing from his extensive experience…
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#118 - Effective Adoption of AI in the Enterprise - with Anindya Ghose
What does it take for organizations to truly harness the power of AI - not just as a buzzword, but as a transformative force for strategy, culture, and execution? In this episode, Anindya Ghose - Professor at NYU Stern, and one of the world’s leading voices at the intersection of AI, economics…
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#117 - Building Antifragile Organizations Through Daily Action with Luca Dellanna
What separates organizations that thrive in uncertainty from those that struggle? In this episode, Luca Dellanna - management consultant, researcher, and author - explores how companies can move beyond theoretical decision-making to ensure real-world execution and resilience. In this episode…
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#116 - GenAI and The End of Consulting as We Know it - with Louis-David Benyayer
As AI reshapes industries at an unprecedented pace, Louis-David Benyayer, associate professor at ESCP Business School and a leading researcher and strategist at the intersection of AI, digital transformation, and knowledge work, joins us on this podcast to discuss what it means for the…
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#115 - How to Structure your Partnership Strategy with Asher Mathew
In an era where go-to-market strategies are evolving rapidly, Asher Mathew—a veteran in partnerships, ecosystems, and business transformation—makes a case for the strategic role of partnerships in modern business. Asher unpacks how partnerships extend beyond traditional sales and marketing,...
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#114 - Bringing Customers Back to the Heart of Business - with Helge Tennø
In a world where products and organizational design often take centre stage, Helge Tennø —a long-time strategist and innovation advisor focused on customer-centric transformations— makes the case for redefining and delivering customer value. In this episode, he challenges the conventional…
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#113 - Why Every Company Is Now a Technology Company—and What It Means for the Future with Rebecca Parsons
Amid technological advancements and shifting organizational landscapes, former CTO of ThoughtWorks, Rebecca Parsons, takes this episode to build the bridge between technology and business impact. Challenging a common fear in the ecosystem of “technology being commoditized”, she explores how it…
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#112 - Finding the Beauty in Business with Tim Leberecht
In a world of interconnected complexities, where futures can often feel bleak, there’s Tim Leberecht, founder of House of Beautiful Business, integrating beauty where we least expect it - business. In this episode, he shares how beauty goes beyond aesthetics and speaks to truth, alignment, and…
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#111 - The Power of Making and Remaking with Immy Kaur
A visionary community leader and co-founder of Civic Square, Immy Kaur, joins us on this episode, to drive home some ground breaking thoughts on systemic transformation in our everyday living. With deep insights drawn from over a decade of experience, Immy challenges conventional thinking about...
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#110 - Decisions, Not Data: Why Research needs Organizational Readiness with Erika Hall
One of the most revered names in research and design, Erika Hall, Co-founder of Mule Design, joins us on this podcast to challenge the role of research as we know it. In this episode, she shares deep insights into the challenges of navigating research in complexity, and, on the backbone of…
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#109 - Beyond Existing Business Model Frames with Jen van der Meer
A popular practitioner of the systemic approach to business, Jennifer van der Meer, founder of Reason Street, joins us on this episode to explore the intersection of business models, capital structures, and ecosystemic value creation.Highlighting how “in business, the challenge is to move beyond...
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#108 - Doing Strategy in a World of Ruthless Change with Roger Martin
Roger Martin, one of the world’s most influential business thinkers and former Dean of the Rotman School of Management, joined us on this episode to talk about all things strategy. He breaks down how organizations can keep up with the dynamism and complexity of it all: the evolution of strategy...
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#107 - Understanding Design Fiction with Fabien Girardin and Nicolas Nova
Have you ever wondered how visualizing complex futures can help you take actions and decisions today? Fabien Girardin and Nicolas Nova, pioneers of the practice of Design Fiction, take us on a journey into it to explain what it is for and what comes beyond it. This episode reveals what it means…
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#106 Keeping Humans in the Loop: The Key to Successful AI Integration with Philippe De Ridder
Philippe De Ridder, co-founder and CEO of Boards of Innovation joins us for a conversation on the Autonomous Age and the Age of Creative AI. In this episode, he discusses his popular opinions on how AI will enable unprecedented productivity gains across industries and impact all business arenas,...
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#105 – Understanding why the Company is the Product with John Cutler
John Cutler, a veteran thought leader and practitioner in product management, joins us for the first episode of Season 6 of the Boundaryless Conversations podcast. John is popularly known for his work on product development, collaboration, and systems thinking, and has worked with some of the…
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#104 - Season 5 Wrap-Up: Thinking and Doing Inside and Beyond the Platform
We reviewed all the 20 episodes from Season 5, and shared some much needed look back and key highlights. While the learnings are an abundant treasure trove, we handpicked a few and categorized them into 4 sections: Dystopian aspects of current socio-technological trends with Sangeet Paul…
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#103 - Funding Ventures through the GenAI Age with James Currier
James Currier, co-founder of NFX and veteran venture capitalist, joins us as our final guest for Season 5 of the Boundaryless Conversations podcast. In this gripping discussion, we go through the current and future states of Venture Capital and startups, the role and impacts that AI will have in...
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#102 - Decoding the Viable System Model with Mark Lambertz
“Viable System Model” expert Mark Lambertz joins us on today’s podcast to help us unfold organizing in complex ecosystems. Mark, a long-time Agile practitioner and a renowned expert on the Viable System Model has a deep understanding and a curious mindset toward all things organizing. We met Mark...
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#101 - Navigating Platform Transitions with Yolanda Martin
Yolanda Martin Olivas, Global VP of Design, ClearScore, joins us on this episode to talk about the challenges and strategies involved in building platform capabilities within organizations. From her experience of building platforms at companies like Farfetch, Hearst, Canonical, Kaluza, and...
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#100 - Learning Centered Organizations for the 21st Century with Indy Johar
Indy Johar, Mission Steward of Dark Matter Labs, joins the podcast to help us rethink how we organize ourselves and our systems, addressing inadequacies of traditional business models that are no longer sufficient for managing complexities. Bringing light to how “risk management should be...
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#99 - The State of Platforms in 2024 with Kelly Sarabyn and Scott Brinker
Kelly Sarabyn and Scott Brinker from HubSpot take us through their latest report on the State of Platforms in 2024. HubSpot has always considered industry education as central to developing its business and brand, and - in combination with some of its partners - released this great report earlier...
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#98 - Sandwich Economics: a New Era of Competition with Sangeet Paul Choudary
We have a three-time returning guest on the podcast today, Sangeet Paul Choudary - certainly one of the most influential minds in the world of modern business. Sangeet, an advisor and best-selling author, known for his work on platform economics and network effects, joins us to take us through…
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Boundaryless Conversations Podcast is an ongoing exploration of the future of Platforms & Ecosystems. Here we explore new perspectives about how we organise at scale in a rapidly changing world.From Boundaryless SRLHosted by Simone Cicero
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